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Drones Hardly Ever Kill Bad Guys
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The foreign policy community’s favorite counterinsurgency adviser, or at least their favorite Australian one, David Kilcullen, told lawmakers last week that the drone strikes targeting Al Qaeda and Taliban fighters in Pakistan are creating enemies at a far faster rate than its killing them. According to statistics he provided, the success rate of the drone bombing campaign is extremely low: just 2 percent of bombs dropped have hit targeted militants. The other 98 percent? Those killed noncombatant Pakistani civilians, he said.
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“Right now our biggest problem is not the [extremist] networks in the FATA, but the fact that Pakistan may collapse if this political instability continues.” The U.S. should stop the bombing campaign against the Pakistani Taliban and instead return to a narrower target set aimed only at Al Qaeda operatives, Kilcullen said, as the bombing campaign has simply become too counterproductive. The Taliban run a very effective “information operations” that broadcasts the death toll from U.S. strikes to feed a rising tide of popular anger against the U.S. and western involvement in Pakistan, he said.
The issue of civilian casualties caused by U.S. bombing is not simply a humanitarian matter, but is a major factor influencing the political and ideological battles being waged in both Pakistan and Afghanistan, says CSIS’s Anthony Cordesman in an email. “Civilian casualty estimates have effectively become an extension of war by other means,” he says. “Tactics that physically defeat elements of the enemy and lose the population lose the war.”
Cordesman says the U.S. can’t bomb its way to victory in Pakistan. The U.S. is also too unpopular to put significant numbers of troops there. He says Pakistan will either succeed or fail against the Taliban based on whether it can adopt some version of the “clear, hold and build” counterinsurgency strategy the U.S. applied in Iraq, and is trying to apply in Afghanistan, versus “having the Pakistani Army smash its way into Swat and leave, which has been the high point of Pakistani warfighting to date.”
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July 12th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
They’re not after bad guys per se, just herd members. Anybody thats alive.
HanksExfed Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
They gotta work the bugs out of those weapons systems some how, start with some really poor mountainous people. oh and if possible attach those people loosely with a real “bad man” like bin laden or somthing, yeah that’l work.
Kill a million iraq’s in eight years, no problem; everyone is watching lame stream news coverage of Jacko the Wacko and his dead molesting ass.
Bin laden! Bin laden! 911 911 Bin laden! Bin laden! 911 911 Bin laden! Bin laden!
bowdownslavesthenewworldorderisgonnawasteyourass….
NO GOD BUT GOD Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
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Get em while their still are some terrorists (aka any humans) left alive in the TRIBAL BELT!!! AND FULL IMMUNITY FOR ANY WAR CRIMES!!! (WEDDING PARTY MASSACRES INCLUDED)
Anihilus Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh1wmPQA0QA
July 12th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
FIRST
Hater Reply:
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Hahahaha you fucking wish.
July 12th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
they are great it seems @ hitting weddings
HanksExfed Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
So your saying they are a real “HIT” at weddings ouch!
ScrewyL Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 3:39 am
You mother, your father, your sister, your brother-in-law, and your little neice with the ring pillow…
ALL DEAD.
How funny.
nobleUK Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 6:29 am
nope im saying that it always turns out to be a wedding party that gets hit not alciada, it seems to be a horrible unfunny recurring pattern
July 12th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
And they wonder why we have so called “terrorists” in the middle east… the more injestice is served to these people, the more taliban fighters you will get. I hate the NWO but you gotta admit, they are pretty clever.
xavier Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Injustice*
July 12th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
There also good at hitting families and kids.
I would like to get my hands on the person controlling this drone because he is a little wimp !
brandon Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 6:21 am
Here is a link that I plug every time I see one of these “drone” stories. It’s just a youtube video I spliced together showing how much the future is starting to resemble the terminator. Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOZS3i-SVK8
July 12th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
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July 12th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
What a crock of shit. Are you kidding me? 2 bad guys killed out of 100? That is what the ragheads WANT YOU TO THINK. Give me a break. Why don’t you guys give our boys a little more credit. Those drones are expensive as hell, not to mention the missiles being fired. Do you think we just indiscriminately fire off missiles? The ragheads ALWAYS kidnap and drag women and children wherever they hide. If and when they take a hit, they cart off the dead bad guys and leave the dead innocents. This serves two purposes, (I should not even have to spell this shit out for you guys) number one, it marginalizes intel on the ground, and secondly, makes us look like baby killers. Now who likes to look like an incompetent baby killer? But our boys know better, and that’s why we keep up the strikes. The bad guys are freaking scrambling, scared shitless, because they don’t even hear a whisper of anything coming their way. I think it’s great! Those head loppers are sitting there saying Allah Akbar, can’t wait to be slamming some little 12 yr old virgin, oh Muhammed, can you please pass me the BOOOOOM………. “holy muhammed!” what happened to my raghead? Oh, there it is, 400 feet down the goat path!
Yeah, keep those missiles flying, and keep those terrorist bastards running for their twisted lives.
God Bless America, and God Bless Boeing, Teledyne Ryan, MIT and the rest of our assets.
SLAVES Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 2:04 am
LOL OLDENOUGH
Yeah, you sure sound old enough! Probably some white male protestant, brainwashed since birth, forced at gunpoint to fight in a pointless war for your banker overlords (disguised as UNCLE SAM), then after your hellish Tour Of Duty you proceeded to watch your country disintegrate from within both morally and physically over your remaining life. Now that we are close to the final destruction of a once great America, you cannot accept your satanic fate and clutch to the nazified nationalistic corporate contrived propaganda that programs you in your lonely depressed couch, and you somehow believe that what you see is REALITY.
WAKE UP – GOD IS ON THE BELIEVERS SIDE , AND AMERICA IS CERTAINLY NOT (EXCEPT THE FEW TRUE BELIEVERS / PATRIOTS)
brandon Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 6:25 am
We are killing people in another country. This sort of European war mongering is part of what are founding fathers were trying to get away from. Ever since WW1 it’s been downhill.
All in a day's work, mon Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Thanks for your insights – a genuine humanitarian effort can be devoted to providing info. and equipment (and tactics) for combatting the drone aircraft …their basing sites are well known, meaning that upon their vulnerable take-off and landing stages they could be “engaged” in disruptive ways. Potential targets could be made more difficult to visualize and target with..?// Smoke that absorbs certain wavelengths? Mirror fragments scattered all around? Balloons/small aircraft or defensive drones, that periodically release ‘chaff’, or fire missiles back at the ‘predators’ ? – just brainstorming here…
July 12th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
That’s what happens when you get your drones from E-bay.
July 12th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
These Drone aircraft are doing their job, that is killing as many inocent people as they can. These people simply dont fit in with the NEW WORLD ORDER and boy i’d hate to be an american citizen with all those FEMA DEATH camps around. YOUR NEXT
July 12th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
During the Vietnam ” war ” , some asshole came up wth the great idea to put plastic pellets in
bombs , instead of the more traditional metal ones , because , that way , they couldn’t be found
by x ray !!! And I don’t think rice farmer kids are that bad !!!
P.S. High-tech sucks !!!
oldenough Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Sir Baby De Porky:
The plastic pellets were a cost saving plan, implemented by an Arm General who had a brother that owned a plastics company.
P.S
I have my “eye” on you De Porky. Don’t worry too much, I kinda like your style. Even if you are one of “them”
roaddog Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
oldenough— one of them who??? He’s been here longer than you. Maybe you’re one of “them”.
SLAVES Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 2:10 am
YES I GOT MY EYE ON YOU OLDENOUGH
your Satanic Comment a few back proves where your loyalties lie…
“and secondly, makes us look like baby killers. Now who likes to look like an incompetent baby killer? But our boys know better, and that’s why we keep up the strikes.” …right like countless tens of thousands of innocent children haven’t been killed by U.S. TERRORIST ATTACKS
“God Bless America, and God Bless Boeing, Teledyne Ryan, MIT and the rest of our assets.”
- You can be assured, God does not bless this Satanic Country, only His loyal servants who remain in it, and God certainly does not bless your Satanic War Machine either
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 8:49 am
I’d be interested to know if the invisibility in the x rays was part of the plan or not , because
then , you’re talkin Nuremberg material !!!
We are all being watched by the 7 planets ( plus the two shadowy ” planets ” Rahu and Ketu
i.e. the North and South nodes of the Moon ) , that’s 9 planets which are like giant karma recording , divine machines , monitoring all our activities , and , in time , dishing back some
of that good or bad karma !!!
So , we’re all skatin’ on thin ice !!! BTW , you don’t sound dumb enough to work for ” them ” ,
why don’t you work for ” us ” ?!?
July 12th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
They are afraid of real fighters.
July 12th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
I seen one of the drones flying over Macon,MO.
July 12th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
truth news http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....g&NR=1
July 12th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
“Kill a million iraq’s in eight years, no problem; everyone is watching lame stream news coverage of Jacko the Wacko and his dead molesting ass.”
There is much pain but there is still good out there. The universe has a way of sorting things out and you would hate to be in the shoes of those genocidal maniacs or the disgusting killers in the army who pretend they are “only doing their work”.
July 12th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Pussies with joysticks!!! It’s that simple!!! Rendevous with Destiny and they shit their pants!!! I’ll not Thermally Expand further.HUA!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
July 13th, 2009 at 1:12 am
First, Al-Qaeda is in Pakistan and they start training even at 5 years old. There are mass brainwashing camps there, so when a kid dies, sorry that you hang out with the older gangsters….
As for statistics: anyone believing that the US is not capable of gathering pinpoint satellite intelligence and believe that those drones are not insanely capable, go watch future weapons at least and see a glimpse of how insane those are.
July 13th, 2009 at 1:52 am
“Hardly Ever”, don’t you see they are mocking us?!
http://www.redpillvsbluepill.weebly.com
July 13th, 2009 at 2:14 am
Honestly, I think the U.S. is hoping to stir up trouble in Pakistan. What could be a better recruitment tool to keep the war going? More militants, more weapons, more U.S. troops, more money for defense and banking!
July 13th, 2009 at 3:30 am
It is evident that the collapse of Pakistan is a war aim. A Pakistan in turmoil, a few “terror” events in India laid at the door of the Pakistanis, India and Pakistan go to war, to coincide with Israeli led strikes on Iran.
Massive false flag operation somewhere, possibly Jerusalem, “et voila” a new world war.
Throw in economic collapse and a few plagues and famines and folks will scream wildly for the saviour to help them. Then the elite will provide the solution.
All that begins early September……
July 13th, 2009 at 3:40 am
I would like to know where you get your info? You are printing what the mainstream media prints. I know first hand that the drones do hit the bad guys, I served 24 years in the military and have seen first hand the drones hit the bad guys, we cant help they hide behind civilians. So you need to get your facts straight before you say they hit everything but the badguys.
sal Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 4:19 am
“the drones hit the bad guys”
It’s so funny when americans decide they’re judge and jury by default! dont you realise YOU are the biggest “bad guys” on the planet and should go stick a drone right up your ass?
July 13th, 2009 at 4:06 am
700 civilians murdered? So Pakistan is now fully justified to bomb the hell out of the US and UK with or without UN mandate? Oh no, the world’s run by white supremacy. There’s the white dominated west and then there’s the rest of the world, the slaves, who’s lives are not worth anything.
nader paul kucinich gravel Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 9:01 am
Uncle Tom Neocon Obama’s destabilization of Pak via death from above, remote control murder.
DNC & RNC have BOTH sold out the country in order to enrich themselves.
Independents agree on more than we disagree.
Beware the divide and conquer.
Gravel Kucinich Paul Nader
McKinney Ventura too
perotcharts.com
Five veterans
The Fed
AIPAC
9/11
July 13th, 2009 at 5:06 am
New World Order is coming towards us at an alarming rate people. Please spread this link to as many people as you possibly can.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Ho.....re_Reports
How long do you think it is going to be before they have these little fellas at the controls of unmanned military weaponry, like the unmanned aerial drones like the USA are using in Pakistan at the moment? Soon we won’t need to worry about our own troops being used agaiainst us because they will have little guys like these who will kill using machines without question.
Also here in the UK the government have just announced the forced inoculation of the entire population of 60 million people for the swine flu virus. Why has no one in the media asked the real question? How did bird flu from Asia, swine flu from South America and the human flu all find its way into a single pig on a Mexican farm? I warn anyone in the UK reading this post to take that forced inoculation at your own peril!
July 13th, 2009 at 6:34 am
“… the drone strikes targeting Al Qaeda and Taliban fighters in Pakistan are creating enemies at a far faster rate than its killing them.”
You’d think they’d figure out that the “enemies” are the people being atacked. There is no “Al Qaeda” or Taliban presence that is being targeted. The Pakistani people are the target. It’s all about subduing a nation, not freeing it.
July 13th, 2009 at 7:16 am
new wake up flyer: put uncle sam pointing words: “reality wants YOU!!
to satand up” –
pic. of uncle sam followed by
“keep your human rights
& the Constitution.
http://www.infowars.com
simplicity and obviousness,
stay away from the obscure, it’s good advice, peace, yall
July 13th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
When a Drone kills you it’s lie the fountain of youth. You instantly become an innocent child. Fact
July 13th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
“the bombing campaign has simply become too counterproductive”
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July 13th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
They gotta get those drones off hormones.