Associated Press
May 19, 2008
CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico — Drug cartels are sending a brutal message to police and soldiers in cities across Mexico: Join us or die.
The threat appears in recruiting banners hung across roadsides and in publicly posted death lists. Cops get warnings over their two-way radios. At least four high-ranking police officials were gunned down this month, including Mexico’s acting federal police chief.
Mexico has battled for years to clean up its security forces and win them the public’s respect. But Mexicans generally assume police and even soldiers are corrupt until proven otherwise, and the honest ones lack resources, training and the assurance that their colleagues are watching their backs. Here, the taboo on cop-killing familiar to Americans seems hardly to apply.
Police who take on the cartels feel isolated and vulnerable when they become targets, as did 22 commanders in the border city of Ciudad Juarez when drug traffickers named them on a handwritten death list left at a monument to fallen police this year. It was addressed to “those who still don’t believe” in the power of the cartels.
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May 19th, 2008 at 10:04 am
Its an eye opener
May 19th, 2008 at 10:05 am
IF YOU DIED TODAY WOULD YOU BE IN HEAVEN OR HELL?
HumanD Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Don’t think so linear.
May 19th, 2008 at 10:08 am
And bush wants to send $1.4bil to Mexico to help train more Mex soldiers to fight for drug runnin’ turf. It’s been proven that about 200 formerly trained at the School of Americas Mex troops have defected over to the cartels. Still wondering what it will take for America to wake up and reclaim what was given us by God (Constitutional Republic)?
DTTNWO, LLTR
May 19th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Preacher, I’m getting sick of your nonsense. How about you post a comment that’s relevant to the article. I’ve seen you in every article posting the same garbage about going to hell. Let me guess, your gonna come back at me with a “repent your sins” comment. You’re just a waste of reply space.
May 19th, 2008 at 10:14 am
#4 Dario, If you don’t like it then look the other way.
May 19th, 2008 at 10:17 am
Preacher… Death has already been overcome and the real question is when will the children be ready to inherit their kingdom?
May 19th, 2008 at 10:20 am
#6 Son of Man, I’m sure you know that the only ones that are the overcomers are the ones that have faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
May 19th, 2008 at 10:22 am
Preacher, again… do you have anything to say about this article? Why don’t you go to a religious blog and make some friends there. I’ve seen plenty of people on this site who want you to stop with this religious nonsense.
May 19th, 2008 at 10:25 am
They should ask for help from the US civilian. The civilian population can cross over into Mexico with their arsenal and take out the garbage.
May 19th, 2008 at 10:28 am
Preacher seems to only believe his own tripe when he makes others believe it too. I wonder what sort of low self esteem this wanker’s got? And yes I’m going to hell. Yes I’ll see you there. No I don’t believe any of this crap. And if the the great sun god existed I’d tell her to go f--- herself for creating such a bulls--- game.
Now to the topic at hand. How long before Blackwater is running security in Mexico?
May 19th, 2008 at 10:29 am
This is like the Godfather, making an offer thay can’t refuse. The CIA is really protecting it’s truf, and no cops will be left around the border.
The “border” (a ‘used to be’ term) will be non-existant, and we will become one w/Mexico. Then these thug/killers will work thier way North. This is way worse than it appears.
May 19th, 2008 at 10:34 am
#10 Chad, Sinful man created the ******* game. Also, God is not a she, Father or Son is not feminine. “sun god”? You must be a Zietgeist Zombie, watch Zietgeist Refuted for a real education.
May 19th, 2008 at 10:36 am
im sick of mexican gangs and their unmeasurable ignorance
May 19th, 2008 at 10:46 am
Hey Preacher.
I’ll be in Heaven, based on the fact that Hell does not exist, nor do I believe in Hell. Plus the Religion I follow, the one that yours is based on, doesn’t have a hell to begin with.
May 19th, 2008 at 10:56 am
I would love hang all anti-constitutional traitors and drive all Illegals into Mexico like cattle-killing all who resist.
Any illegals caught returning without proper visas/etc. shall be shot.
May 19th, 2008 at 10:57 am
#14 Danny, Just because your religion teaches Hell is not real does not make it true. Religions have been wrong but the KJV Bible has never been wrong. Also, what you believe is against logic. You cannot have right without left, and you cannot have up without down, and you cannot have right without wrong, and you cannot have good without evil, and you cannot have Heaven without Hell.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Chad and Dario: twin ‘handlers’ and comments police. Never heard of them, never read their
comments before, haven’t the foggiest idea what they really stand for. Motto: just comment and ’shut the f--- up’. That is the kind of hell we have going on. Controllers. Pure Hitler.
And Danny believes he’ll be in heaven because he doesn’t believe in hell.
Humboldt County, Calif, famous for sensimilla was mom and pop farming community, very lucrative. The government was on it like white on rice. Still it was mostly controlled by ordinary people. Expensive but quality/not quantity. Moneys worth.
Those wretched evil mexicans moved in and took over. Naturally! Considering Mexico has that ‘death house’ and the u.s. gov. and catholic church knows about it and looks the other way.
Boils on the butt of humanity.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:41 am
#8 hey dario – is it possible that preacher thinks he is god??? i dont need to die to experience hell – hell on earth is reading preachers hateful, judgemental, divisive comments …how many people all over the world who come to this site for information are turned off christianity by his moronic raving…
May 19th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
This kind of stuff is why every citizen should be armed not just the cops. I think its retarded the government wants people to help them fight the war on drugs(which is a bunch of BS anyway) but they don’t want them armed either.
and for all those in the little heaven/hell exsistance debate………
Hell does exsist just not the way people commonly think if it. Most people think it’s the whole fire and brimstone torture for eternity yet the KJV Bible never says that. It does however mention a lake of fire and brimstone that is the second death. DEATH not the second life of eternal torture. Hell is simply the grave. Which also gets thrown into the lake of fire(revelation 20:14)
If you were to read the Bible and pray wisdom and discernment about the things you were reading rather then listening to what some pastor who went through an indoctrination and told the same things at seminary says it says you would come to a completely different understanding.
http://www.worldslastchance.com has a couple of videos that point out exactly what the bible says about the state of death and hell
Death: Its mysteries unraveled
Good news about Hell
May 19th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Today, the American government is really no different than the very drug cartel’s in this article. They are much like the Gambino family and Capone, but now they operate on an entirely new level….GLOBALLY!!!
Bush, Clinton, Guilianni, Wolfowitz, ETC….. These are all the NEW WORLD ORDER crime families and they all are operating on your money……..AND YOU f---ING LET THEM!!!!! WAKE UP!!!! These guys do not care who lives and who dies, their only concern is MONEY & POWER. They now have all the money they could ever want and now they are working towards their ultimate goal of controlling all mankind and they are almost at this goal. You must be totally aware of all things from here on out. The END of their plan to enslave you is so close I can almost taste it. Prepare yourself to become like an animal, let your instinct take over because if you don’t, YOU WILL DIE!
May 20th, 2008 at 1:20 am
Hey, someone probably gave the link to it before but I wasn’t paying attention and missed it. “Preacher” or someone else, would you please post the link here to Zeitgeist Refuted? I would like to watch that. Thanks.
May 21st, 2008 at 1:57 am
Well, no one would be kind enough to make my and others’ lives easier by providing a link to the film, so I finally went and did a search to find it myself. So here, for the sake of my making others’ lives easier here, is a link to the film:
http://video.google.com/videop.....0528394775
May 21st, 2008 at 2:02 am
Wolf Britain. Google Video “Zietgeist refuted”. It was made by our brothers from bath Shalom ministries. Go to Google Video.
May 21st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
So the US is not happy with just free market, they require the natives to join them or die. The Mexican police has finally been out corupted by the USA. The monopoly men.
May 21st, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Ezra…they planned this all along…in the 60’s Mexico’s president printed fresh money..???…He said he didnt know it was to slap the B.I.P. … putting mexicans on a tight rope of economics…now you need a thousand pesos to make a buck!!!
That is why they are ready to do what the money says to eat a peice of bread.
Mexicans are victims of that….and they’v been told not to like the gringos!!!
s---! but they dont have the same info network or internet like we do so we could tell them what is going on!
too many victims and growing!!!
May 22nd, 2008 at 2:29 am
(a) ive never met what could be an honest cop in mexico. what constitutes honest?
(b) it is not part of the job description of a mexican policeman to involve himself with drug crimes. hahahahahaha,,, they file no reports or conduct no investigations,,, well,, im refering to city policemen here,,, state police do in fact conduct investigations of sorts.
what one of the cartels has done here i have noticed in my neighborhood is clean it up,,, when i first moved to mexico my neighborhood was thriving with heroin dealers and addicts,,, you will be hard pressed to find one here now.
ive seen numerous attempts,,, or claimed attempts to shut them down,,, as impotent as any us attempt has been over the years,,,,
it takes a while to clean it all out,,, but the difference is noticable,,,, way noticable.
my chosen town here, nuevo laredo is largly controlled by the gulf cartel, so most of the news i hear concerns them,,, and they call the last shot,,,, i know very little about the sinaola cartel except they seem to be the chosen cartel of the mexican and us governments as very little is posted about them altho they are every bit as big as the gulf cartel.
calderon seems to be going after the gulf cartel and their enforcement arm the zetas,,, and ignoring the sinaola cartel,,, and by the way,,, i also feel the meridia initiative which i believe is still kind of in the secret stages is to arm the sinaola cartel with an inforcement branch.
this is way overblown,,, and in most part out and out lies,,,
to tell you the truth i get a little tired of hearing the propaganda used as a diversionary tactic via the drug cartels and illegal aliens,,,, i have seen no action taken against any drug cartel except the gulf,,, i have seen no action taken against any illegal alien,,, all ive seen is new legislation aimed at imprisoning us citizens in their own country by way of passports and tracking chips.
come on people,, wake up and take care of your own side of the border,,, dont worry about mexico,,, our drug problem is just about gone.
if any of your sources have reported any different,,, well,,, id think about changing sources,,, to some that were a little more reliable.
May 23rd, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Get the word out hidden in this bill also (Amnesty )
Jeff Sessions joins Lou Dobbs to discuss his outrage over Dems’ efforts to sneak amnesty legislation through Congress.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/vid…..s.intv.cnn
May 24th, 2008 at 2:28 am
I know stuff. Lots of stuff. You would be amazed at the stuff I know!
May 24th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
The Mexican Government should just send the army there with orders to shoot and kill all Drug Cartel members.NO MERCY. within a year the Drug Cartel will not exist.
May 25th, 2008 at 7:21 am
you Americans sound so thick and stupid with your racist comments about the mexicans.No wonder the whole world hates you…
June 20th, 2008 at 8:26 am
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February 10th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
The mexicans love american citizens!!!!
“Cause you are paying 4 drugs 10 times worth what we can have 4 cheaper !!!
Sellers love customers. And love gringo ladys too !!!
February 11th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD KILL THEM PIGS AND MAKE SOME SAVORY BACON
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