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‘Ecoscience’ blames Judeo-Christian religions for overpopulation, environmental destruction
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December 10, 2009
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Here are excerpts from a chapter in ‘Ecoscience,’ the 1977 text co-authored by Paul Ehrlich, Anne Ehrlich and John P. Holdren, now Science Czar to the Obama Administration, which regards the conflicts between religious institutions and environmental/population issues. It goes so far as to quote ‘academics’ who blame the entire Judeo-Christian tradition, harkening back to an era of Pagan Animism where trees & streams were revered.
Judge for yourself, but the fact that this book is considered a "textbook" with at least some sense of neutrality or objectivism seems remarkable. Clearly there are some biased if not crackpot views spread throughout this tediously long volume…
For clarification, all direct passages are put in "quotes." All Infowars.com commentary will be prefaced by ‘commentary.’ Notes are short paraphrases or references to non-quoted passages in the text.
Religion in “Ecoscience” 1977 p. 806-813
“Religion, broadly defined, would include all the belief systems that allow Homo sapiens to achieve a sense of transcendence of self and a sense of the possession of a right and proper place in the universe and a right and proper way of life. In short, everyone wants to feel important and in tune with a right-ordered world.” P. 806
“With religion so broadly defined, political parties, labor unions, nation states, academic disciplines, and the organized structure of the environment-ecology movement would have to be counted among our religious institutions.” P. 806
-Notes controversy of Organized religion vs. population control
Commentary: Otherwise well-establish conflict with Catholic church on contraceptives
-Notes Pope Paul VI’s Humanae Vitae, 1968 and the resulting controversy, particularly for contraceptive proponents & activists
“Since its publication, the encyclical has caused immense anguish among Catholics, millions of whom have followed their consciences and used contraceptives, often after a period of intense soul-searching.”
Commentary: This can be read to imply that Catholics going against the Pope and using contraceptives stand on a higher moral ground, while it is for reasons of conscience that the Pope and other Catholics hold this view.
Ecoscience notes that the Pope received ‘almost universal ridicule’ at the 1974 World Food Conference in Rome.
Catholic biologist John H. Thomas of Stanford University (Ehrlich’s university) wrote in 1968:
“The Church must affirm that the birth rate must soon be brought in line with the death rate—i.e., a growth rate of zero. This is the responsibility of all people regardless of race or religion. The Church must recognize and state that all means of birth control are licit… (it) must put its concern for people, their welfare, and their happiness above its concern for doctrine, dogma, and canon law… It is time that the Church stop being like a reluctant little child, always needing to be dragged into the present.”
Commentary: If the Church "must" embrace ALL means of birth control, does this include abortion? Compulsory sterilization? and beyond?
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
-Notes Protestant, Catholic and Jewish activity in promoting sex education in schools.
-Notes Methodist groups involvement in abortion-law reform in the U.S.
“Thus there is good reason to hope that organized Western religious groups may become a powerful force in working toward population control worldwide, especially as the human suffering caused by overpopulation becomes more widely recognized.” P. 808
-Notes some acceptance among Moslem countries for birth control, including Indonesia in 1960s
“For Westerners who favor population control one of the best courses of action seems to lie in working with the already established religious groups to change people’s attitudes toward population growth.” P. 809
Commentary: ‘working with the already established religious groups’ Does this equate to promoting individual leaders within religious groups who happen to agree with or accept Ecoscience’s view of proper population control (which, as other Ecoscience quotes demonstrate, includes forced abortions, taking babies from teen mothers, implantable birth control and licensed births), and excluding, shunning or discrediting religious leaders who don’t accept any/all population control?
Commentary: ‘Westerners who favor population control’—i.e. the Rockefeller Foundation, Population Council and other Robber Baron-funded NGOs, who have put forward the majority of funding for worldwide population control since the 1960s?
“Lynn White, Jr., professor emeritus of history at the University of California, Los Angeles, and past president of the American Historical Association, has suggested that the basic cause of Western society’s destructive attitude toward nature lies in the Judeo-Christian tradition. He pointed out, for instance, that before the Christian era, people believed trees, springs, hills, streams, and other objects of nature had guardian spirits. Those spirits had to be approached and placated before one could safely invade those territories: ‘By destroying pagan animism, Christianity made it possible to exploit nature in a mood of indifference to the feelings of natural objects.’” P. 809
Commentary: Thus, Western world’s roots in society established ‘dominating and exploiting’, and “rightful mastery over nature” is rooted in the Christian world view. This summary is over-generalized and appears aimed at demonizing Christianity and Western culture.
“Therefore, White claimed, it may be in vain that so many look to science and technology to solve our present ecological crisis:
‘Both our present science and our present technology are so tinctured with orthodox Christian arrogance toward nature that no solution for our ecologic crises can be expected from them alone. Since the roots of our trouble are so largely religious, the remedy must also be essentially religious, whether we call it that or not.”
Commentary: Conveniently, Ecoscience has already ‘broadly’ defined religion to include “political parties, labor unions, nation states, academic disciplines, and the organized structure of the environment-ecology movement”as ‘religious institutions.’ Thus a pseudo-religious environmental view or movement can be see as a viable ’solution.’ In some ways, the more that elements of Gaia worship, pagan animism or other forms of ‘Earth worship’ are incorporated, the more it can be billed (by the logic of this chapter) as a legitimate replacement to Judeo-Christian religious traditions.
Several objections to White’s thesis are noted.
Commentary: Lewis Moncrief of North Carolina State University also counts Western religion as a cause of the problem, but only one of many. He also counts “the Industrial revolution and democracy” for their role in “providing individual control over resources” (thus paving the way for a collective-authority solution) p. 810 Notably, Ecoscience and quoted-below academic Bertrand Russell both call for variations of a Planetary Authority to control births, a World Food Authority to control the distribution of food and otherwise views the necessity of a super-national authority to oversee environmental imperatives and restrictions to resources.
Commentary: Among the problems of religion, the Industrial revolution, democracy and the frontier-mentality in America is “faith in the abundance of resources and the bounty of nature.” Notice that this passage compliments the idea that de-industrialization of the Western world must take place (for the good of the Earth) P. 811 I suppose Judeo-Christians are also to be held accountable for Biblical-imperatives to "be fruitful and multiply" as this could lead to unauthorized child birth and population of the earth.
"Ecological Ethics: Many persons believe that an entirely new philosophy must now be developed—one based on ecological realities. Such a philosophy—and the ethics based upon it—would be antihumanist and against Judeo-Christian tradition in the sense that it would not focus on human beings as an integral part of nature, as just one part of a much more comprehensive system… the extreme anthropocentricism of thinkers like Karl Marx and John Dewey has been strongly attacked by, among others, Bertrand Russell. Russell, for example, pointed out Marx’s philosophical closeness to classical Judeo-Christian thought.” P. 811-812
Commentary: Bertrand Russell is not against the authoritarian collectivism of Marxism, as perhaps the informed free peoples of the world would be, his objection is that Marxism is too closely related to Judeo-Christian’s central-man viewpoint…
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December 10th, 2009 at 1:44 am
Where do these people come up with this stuff? They are crazy. Nothing but right down crazy. They are going to keep picking and pushing folks right into a corner if they have their say so about it all.
Random Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 2:10 am
read The Field by Lynne McTaggart, it could help you out with a concept of God that doesn’t require you to stone people who pick up sticks on saturday.
Truth Be Told Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 6:44 am
John is a known Eugenic. He is a danger to the public.
Jesse Ventura's 911 episode Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
For those of u who missed it here it is:
http://vodpod.com/watch/266937.....eories-911
AzPatriot Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
it’s being re-broadcast all week on tru-tv….
rtodia Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 7:15 am
Jumping in at the top here. Sorry about that. I want to comment on the leaked Danish Text. It’s not a good thing because it will change the focus. It’s a device used to get negotiations going. It will bring everybody into a discussion about what “fair” world governance should be.
These guys are amazing. They are like really good car salesmen.
AzPatriot Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
hmmm very interesting perspective.. i believe you could be right…
BBB Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 2:58 am
I hope they do “keep pushing”, once the people are cornered they shall turn around and face their tormentors. They are few, we are many. They shall lose. Acquire weapons by any means possible. Prepare for war.
alan Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 9:02 am
watch the american matrix, age of deception as it directly relates to this issue. it needs to go viral asap. thanks for all who are in this war. alan
nobleUK Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 4:59 am
they get it from the rockefeller playbook
Williams_den Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 5:15 am
It’s the same people who say we came from monkeys and everything was Bing Bang accident. If you ask me Evolution and all related sciences are a religion of ‘fairy tales’. I have been saying this for years. The system as we know it has made scientist as pseudo gods. I do believe that some science is good eg stuff that can be proven and used to better our living conditions, but all this other crap is just hot air theories by people who pretend to be smart because they have a PHD. However, if you have a PHD in anthropology basically, it is like getting a PHD from Disney Land, because it’s all based on someone’s theories which change quite often as well. In Revelation 13 which describes the Anti Christ it says that he will worship the “god of forces” Could this be modern science as the new religion?
MAD DOG Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 6:01 am
YOU ARE AN IDIOT, YOU USE A BOOK OF FABLES TO DEBUNK SCIENCE, MAN ARE YOU A FKEN IDIOT.
do you have a brain? Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 10:56 am
How is the Bible a book of fables? Do you know what a fable is? I suggest you to look the word fable in the dictionary, its obvious you don’t know what it is and if you do then you have never read the Bible. The majority of the Bible is history which we can confirm.
Now Who is the idiot?
rjmichigan Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Scriptures were written by Scribes. Scribes scribble script. Scribes are told what to scribble in the scriptures. Scrabble is played by a Skitzos. Skitzos are people that believe in Scriptures Scribbled by Scribes.
do you have a brain? Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
and using your theory to judge you, you are a skitzo since you believe the scribbles you just wrote.
rjmichigan Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
No…the question is do you have a brain < The bible was written by Scribes. So by what you typed as a useless response you are in point of fact…saying the Bible was not written by Scribes that are hired to scribble script. Now, if you want to believe in the bible that is your problem not mine. I just stated facts. You must be a believer, because you will believe anything with no foundation of facts. If you do in point of fact take the bible as fact and you have a son that is dishonest and a drunkard..this is what the bible says to do. Now you better do it…because this is what the bible says to do!
18 ¶ If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
rjmichigan Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Deuteronomy chapter 21 verse 18 through 21. Gods way of population control. What a lovely God. ASSHOLE!!
mark Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 8:48 am
i think it is williams… the “theory” of evolutionism is JUST as religious as christianity… they BELIEVE we came from lesser animals, we BELIEVE that we cannot have come from lesser animals… neither are proovable, all we can do is look at the evidence and make up our own minds…
if the bible was looken at as critically as evolutionism, i think most wouldnt choose the evolutionistic way of life… problem being, that the bible says alot about peoples lifestyles… and thats what they are really running from!
Random Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
it wasn’t till recently, Gutenberg, that any but The Few could read or write.
i stare at sheeple Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 10:31 am
glad to see you are not pretending to be smart, williams_den.
alright den, i reckon i get me some more them french fried taters.
MAD DOG Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 6:01 am
THEY ARE INSANE, IT’S TIME TO JUST DRAG THEM OUT BACK AND SHOOT THEM.
Year of the Rat Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
God knows why we havent shot them already, maybe we need our brains checked.
alan Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 9:00 am
RELATED FREE MOVIES EXPOSING THE NWO GO TO UAFF.US PLEASE FORWARD AL
kebcreation Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 9:05 am
This EcoScience book could supply articles for Infowars into the next century. Fables? I doubt that. The Bible has the code of how to be human and how not to. It is the conscience my friends. That is what these people are lacking because noone with one would think they deserve to live more than another. We all have that right and it wasn’t from our government that we got it. Sometimes I think that old cartoon Pinky and the Brain was trying to tell us something. Let’s just hope they fail in their complete takeover. This is our earth too and that’s what gives us the right to stop them. What some call nature I call God and these people may feel the wrath of the true owner of this planet if they keep this up.
cindi Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 9:05 am
we are more concerned about CHEMTRAIL aluminum and barium than co2. you underestimated your goyim evil freeks and a very large herd is stirring, seeking their creator and bringing on the new aeon. love to the rest cindi 9 11 33 40 12 7 strangedaysstrangeskies and stevequayle.com have proof, lots of proof and so does uaff.us and willthomasonline.net go now.
Cyte Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Athiesm for the win! Religion does nothing for the masses. Athiests strive for a better life now, not after you die.
Uncle Samael Reply:
December 11th, 2009 at 3:20 am
As it should be.
December 10th, 2009 at 2:03 am
these people are bat sh*t insane.
December 10th, 2009 at 2:08 am
They blame the Christians for just about everything. It looks like if we don’t fix this global messed up NWO we will someday be blamed for it too. Truth is….Is the principles of the Gospel of Jesus Christ that cause righteousness and prosperity in the land. The nations who have lived farthest from them are the nations who’s populations live under the curse of continual poverty and less education.
Zionist Oil Corp Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 3:33 am
I blame the Muslim rag heads. We need to kill all of them to save the Earth.
i stare at sheeple Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 10:34 am
really?
you read all that from the “Holy Book of Bable”?
Guardian Angel Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Read it for yourself in history. Facism and Communism always went after the religious to stamp them out… because it is the religious who were NOT THE SHEEP. The nations who stamped on the religious populations became the most brutal, murderous, dominating, tyranical governments that exhisted. Empires that began religiously tolerant were the ones where the minions could flourish. Those governments who are not religiously tolerant have not had prosperity amoung the governed.
StarinaNovak Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 10:34 am
I blame worshipers of Mystery Babilonian religion and cults for everything.
me Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
BLAME NIMROD AND HIS MOMMIE FOR THE SICK BELIEFS, BAALISM AND TRADITIONS. ME 33
December 10th, 2009 at 2:18 am
One more thought….It isn’t necessarily Christians who are having the largest families. Muslims have larger families in general. India has one of the largest growing populations on earth. I think the true reason Judeo Christianity gets blamed so much is because Christians seem to be harder for the satanic cult world rulers to controll due to their stronger desires for freedom….so those bad guys invent excuses to attack Judeo Christians who have always been their strongest and thus most hated opponents of their evil and tyranny.
Guardian Angel Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
You misunderstood my comment….This report says Ecoscience blames Judeo Christians…When I said the muslims had larger families in general…I did not use the word BLAME. Because man made green house gasses (global warming is a fraud.) It seems a bunch of obnoxious weirdos jumped a band wagon of blame here… I come from a large family and I actually think muslims are on the right track in having stronger families and I think many Christians should follow their example. I believe the muslim family strength is part of what makes the NWO target them. They have a lower divorce rate ect… I don’t blame them at all. I apologize if my comment made it sound like I did. As far as the education part…well… “No. I didn’t read it in the Bible…I read it in history. The strongest empires since Christ, I must admit WERE established or PRESERVED by Christians. I like muslims….I hear they will out procreate us all so the future belongs to them! Have a wonderful
December 10th, 2009 at 2:24 am
The UN is evil. The fact that they put out a memo that said that the environment should compete with religion as the only human value proves they are interested in total control.
Read my article on the note of UN ecclesiastical control via environmentalism:
http://filfree.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/ddegracia/
StarinaNovak Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 10:35 am
UN is an attempt to One World Government, a new Babilon.
December 10th, 2009 at 2:25 am
Some people think its all false. I know for a fact that Reptilians exist on this Earth and I’ve got proof!
Williams_den Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 5:30 am
They existed for sure, but not millions of years ago. The Bible has records of dinosaurs in the book Of Job and the book of Psalms. How do you explain Mammoths who were found in glaciers with green grass in their stomach. did he get his toe caught in a glacier and had to wait millions of years for it to cover him, so he ate as much grass as he could since he wasn’t going anywhere? Or did he get drowned in the Flood which would have happened suddenly to him and then later he floated up north and with the new tilt of the earth he was now embedded in the ice? Think it through. In university I asked a class mate, that if he believed in Evolution, did he believe we still are evolving? He answer ” Of course”. “Then” I asked how come we don’t see half man, half monkeys? Why did some evolve into complete humans and the rest somehow got left out and had to stay monkeys?” He went ” I never thought of that” My point most people just parrot things they were taught trusting that the teachers and textbooks are the truth. However, any child with a little sense can see that something as perfect as nature is not a result of some Big Bang accident. Proving dinosaurs exists does not prove evolution. The bible talks about them and it says the world is about 6,000 years old, and that is as old as any actual written or tangible history of man. Think man think !
Nephilim Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 8:52 am
He wasn’t talking about dinosaurs, he was talking about a race of Nephilim
StarinaNovak Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Hmmm …
OK, you people that make your own ammo, start making silver bullets.
Buy silver and coat tips of your FMJ ammo.
Nephilim Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
What the hell are you talking about?
Is someone drawing automatic conclusions again?
Not that it could expect anything different from this site.
i stare at sheeple Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 10:41 am
they do exist, the little M&M guys.
December 10th, 2009 at 2:29 am
Reptilians have been deceiving and manipulating humans for centuries. They’re the ones behind the fluoridation of water, mercury in vaccines, lead in gasoline, aluminum in foods (baking powder, cake mixes), aspartame (chewing gum, diet sodas). Everything they do is deception based. 9/11, 7/11, 4/11, Fiat currency, central banks, federal reserve, stock market (ponzi scheme), etc.
The real reason why they keep us alive is they’re feeding off of humans. They’re eating humans and drinking their blood to keep themselves alive. They’ve got underground cities and bases all over the world interconnected by high speed rail.
anon Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 6:35 am
Prove the underground railways. Go on….
roaddog6 Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 9:15 am
anon—actually believe it or not you can google that and you can see underground railways. I’ve read that they go coast to coast too.
i stare at sheeple Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 10:44 am
They call them, Subways now.
roaddog6 Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
I thought those were sandwich shops.
timelady Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 7:43 am
And don’t forget that there actually *was* a magic bullet.
FORGED BY ILLUMINATI MYSTICS IN ORDER TO HIDE THE TRUTH!
StarinaNovak Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 10:37 am
It was the driver who shot JFK, over his right shoulder.
You never see driver in Zapruder film, because it was cut out, and then released.
December 10th, 2009 at 2:43 am
if you say SNAKES like Sean Connery, it sounds like SHNAKES.
December 10th, 2009 at 2:58 am
mmmmmmm now which religion bans contraception????
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December 10th, 2009 at 5:47 am
To me the book is simply pointing how religion and belief can be used as a control mechanism to serve or harm a culture. (in the authors opinions). Many textbooks, especially college level are very opinionated so I just don’t see this as that unusual. In a college setting, OK, any lower and it definitely becomes more controversial.
From reading the book excerpts and the commentaries, they both seem biased. I get the sense that the book takes a very high minded attitude about religion, almost implying that the ignorant masses can be pulled around by the nose through religion, which for the most part unfortunately is true, while the commentaries are obviously taking a more defensive religious stance, and takes everything as a more aggressive attack, which some if it plainly is, but not everything.
Maybe the authors are just pissy because they haven’t figured out how to control people as well as the other groups, including religion. Some of these intellectual types just love to look down on people of faith because they believe and act on things that just aren’t logical or that makes no sense to them. Literally a textbook example of liberal bias
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December 10th, 2009 at 6:12 am
the depopulation religion is satanism. the main tenets of the gaia religion are satanism. what is satanism? satanism seeks to exterminate humans.
alan Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 8:59 am
read the proto.cols of the learn.ed elde.rs of z.i.o.n. remove the periods. read t.imelin.e of the na.z.i.s and watch you tube video hollowmoon by trillion. time to awaken. alan
StarinaNovak Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 10:39 am
Nazis, Elder of Zion, Free Masons (frie meason, son of light), Illuminati …
They are the same bunch.
Hitler’s grandfather was one of Rotschields, and his family name was Shicklegruber.
December 10th, 2009 at 6:33 am
Hey people…. you know why they’re so scared of population increases?
Look at the correlation between technology and population size.
If we have one more baby boom, the power of love will completely overwhelm them
Serfdumb Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Yes anon, I am really feeling the love.
December 10th, 2009 at 6:38 am
How to stop the che.m spr.aying:
Sabotage the plains and their supply chain, airfields, fuel trucks.
Sni.pe or stone the planes from distance, even small hit will keep the pl.ain grounded.
Molo.tov coctail or derail the fuel trucks, start f.ire on ai.rfields.
Spread this post everywhere, and improve on the ideas.
And post locations of ai.rfields that do it.
Let’s stop the spra.ying.
December 10th, 2009 at 7:16 am
The basic premise though is factually wrong. Christians are encouraged that we are stewards of the earth and responsible for our actions. We tend to support recycling and sensible self population control through whatever personal means available to us including abstention. Another fact is our population figure in America is at 0 growth now.
maelstrom Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 11:43 am
the antihuman movement has to attack judeo-christo-islam because the first commandment God issued in Genesis is Go forth and multiply.
December 10th, 2009 at 7:42 am
it’s a 30 year old book.
no one changes their opinions in 30 years? no one?
please.
Tim Singleton Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 8:00 am
Your comment presupposes that everyone WILL change their opinions in 30 years. Not so.
I still think Communism is a hell inspired counterfeit of supposed fairness and compassion that attempts to remake MAN into nothing more than another cog in a deterministic Nature where there is no God.
I have held this opinion for 37 years, since I first read the Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital.
timelady Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 10:14 am
it doesn’t change the fact that people do change their opinions as time goes on
maelstrom Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 11:45 am
true, holdren went from global ice age fearmongering to global warming fearmongering in 30 years.
addy Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Timelady, the possibility of ANYONE changing their opinions is not the same as EVERYONE changing their opinions. Where is the evidence that Holdren, or for that matter, any one of Obama’s affiliates has changed any of their beliefs over the years? This man went to all the trouble of writing a book espousing some pretty radical, dare say offensive, ideas, if he changed his mind, had an epiphany, what have you…. you think he’d have gotten the word out by now. He has continued to purport variations on his original theme, however. How much more do you need to determine that this guy is scary- if its walking, quacking, has webbed feet, has feathers and a bill, lays eggs, and swims, but does not have poison glands, milk ducts, fur, or a beaver-like tail, you can safely assume its still a duck, and not magically transformed (”evolved”) into a platypus-even if 30 years have passed.
Don’t you understand, you are defending people who see you, your family, your friends and neighbors as vermin to be exterminated. Look around- for every 10 people they want 9 gone! Have you been so puffed up with Oprah style self esteem B.S. that you think that you would be spared, you know, because you’re “special”? Even if you are somehow useful to them now, there won’t be room for you on their “ark” when the time comes.
Timelady, quit hitting the snooze button, it’s time to wake up!
December 10th, 2009 at 7:56 am
Good! I like when monster they created finally turns back and bites the master!
December 10th, 2009 at 8:22 am
The Books definition of religion is fundamentally wrong. All religions have spirituality as a common denominator. otherwise communism would be a religion. Simply expecting the planet to keep going round because it always has done before would be a religion. (There’s no evidence other than past performance).
If the book’s author doesn’t understand the basic definition of what he’s writing about then it bound to sound confused.
roaddog6 Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 8:42 am
but they use the concept of spirituallity as a control mechanism.
December 10th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Alex: like a roach motel…slave go in, but they don’t come out.
December 10th, 2009 at 9:11 am
FREEDOM. Since Jehovah God is the Almighty, the Sovereign Ruler of the universe and the Creator of all things, he alone has absolute, unlimited freedom. (Gen. 17:1; Jer. 10:7, 10; Dan. 4:34, 35; Rev. 4:11) All others must move and act within the limitations of ability given them and subject themselves to his universal laws. (Isa. 45:9; Rom. 9:20, 21) For example, consider the laws governing created things, such as gravity, chemical reactions, influence of the sun, growth, and so forth; the moral laws; the rights and actions of others that influence one’s freedom. The freedom of all God’s creatures is therefore a relative freedom.
There is a distinction between limited freedom and bondage. Freedom within God-given limitations brings happiness; bondage to creatures or to imperfection, weaknesses or wrong ideologies brings oppression and unhappiness. Freedom is also to be differentiated from self-determination, that is, ignoring God’s laws and determining what is right and what is wrong for oneself. Such leads to encroachments on the rights of others and causes trouble.
True freedom is freedom bounded by law, Gods law, which allows full expression of the individual in a proper, upbuilding and beneficial way, and recognizes the rights of others, contributing to happiness for all. (Ps. 144:15 Luke 11:28 Jas. 1: 25)
Dee Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Awesome reply!!! I can clearly see that we are in a Spiritual Battle. The #1 threat to the Illuminati are true Christians. They hate Christians. We seek TRUTH in everything we do. We are learning to love God and love humanity. We are learning His Commandments and trying to DO them which is NOT easy. We need WISDOM in order to defeat the Illuminati/NWO. The book of James tells us that if we need wisdom to go to God and ask for it. Wisdom is more precious than gold/silver although it is NOT a sin if you have it. Where is your trust?! As Texe Marrs explains, ONLY the New Testament Christians will be standing after all the chaos. ALL others will fall to the Illuminati/NWO. True Christians are NOT afraid of death. The greatest gift you can give a Christian is martydom. The Illuminati don’t want that; because then we are a bigger threat dead than alive. Greater is He in us(Jesus Christ) than he in the world(lucifier or satan). I will continue to pray and ask God to intervene in humanity’s affairs against the Illuminati/Lucifier/Satan. True love(AGAPE) conquers all!!
I understand why Alex keeps playing Muse’s-”The Resistance”. The Lyrics say it all!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ature=fvsr
December 10th, 2009 at 11:43 am
BRING IT ON YOU ECOSCIENCE NWO SATAN WORSHIPPERS! I GOT JESUS RIDING ON MY SLEEVE SO COME GET SOME YOU BITCHES!
(SORRY JESUS)
Serfdumb Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
That’s not Jesus. That’s just a snot stain that kind of looks like a bearded guy with long hair.
I saw something similiar on my toast the other morning.
December 10th, 2009 at 11:45 am
I believe in Gaia theory because it is a holistic approach to learning biological formations since the beginning of life on earth. I believe the science government likes to portray itself as a sustainable eco-intelligent catalyst for change when in actuality they implement no real application in permaculture, agroforestry, or any other ecologically sustainable system (because they can not be patented by their investors). It is more likely that they are here to convince the population that sustainability is their intended purpose by blaming their financiers wastes on the masses, while building government around the idea of sustainability.
December 10th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
The infowars author considers abortion to be a form of birth control?
What an ignorant asshole.
freethinker Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Yes, abortion is a form of birth control. What the hell are you talking about?
December 10th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
You know what the worst part about not being a christian (I mean xian) is?
After we all die, I won’t get to say “I told you so.”
who said that Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
nah you’ll get your chance at the judgement, trouble is I don’t think you’ll feel like spouting off when the time comes you’ll be to busy trying to talk your way out of hell.
December 10th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Watch Fall Of The Republic & other important DVD’s in full version at: http://www.joemarquis.com/videos.htm
I took the time to build an area within my own business website where you can educate yourself online for free. A great place to start if your NEW or OLD and want to learn about the New World Order.
Joe Marquis
December 10th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Holdren believes that babies are not human beings AFTER they’re born, and that they don’t become “human” for sometime afterwards, so, therefore, it’s okay to go ahead and murder them because they’re just “tissue.”
December 10th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Open invite to Holdren to bring his smarmy ass and spout this crap off in person. Well see who gets “Aborted” first.
December 10th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Patriots Theme Song As Relates To Presidential Parties:
I’ve been cheated
Been mistreated
When will I be loved
I’ve been pushed down
I’ve been pushed ’round
When will I be loved
When I find a new man
That I want for mine
He always breaks my heart into
It happens every time
I’ve been made blue
I’ve been lied to
When will I be loved
When I find a new man
That I want for mine
He always breaks my heart into
It happens every time
Oh, I’ve been cheated
Been mistreated
When will I be loved
When will I be loved
Tell me, when will I be loved
December 10th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
how does the book blame the “judeo” part? it was judeo-fascists that wrote it…
Very Radical Libertarian Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
i need to let my browser save forms again, so i don’t accidentally type “libertariuan” again.
and one more thing, islam is the enemy religion of the nwo. i’m not a muslim but look at how muslims are treated throughout the world and look at christians. christians have it good.
December 10th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
the ‘yin’ feild cant stand a vacuum.as the yang expands the yin contracts,as the yang contracts the yin expands.ones active,the others reactive.in combat when inwardly calm be outwardly dynamic,when outwardly calm be inwardly dynamic.stick and run,yeild and advance according to the opponent.its not a matter of brute force.the most lethally effective men i’ve ever known[sifu's,sensei's,drill instrutors]were usually not much bigger than an athletic woman.i would put them against any man,even a platoon,and they would bring them into order in quick order.
December 10th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
their easy to lure in combat they cant help themselves[their unclean heart gets the best of them.]where ever you want them to go simply evacuate .lead them by your integraty,they want it because they have none.its uncanny[hard to perceive] to them.
December 10th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
real christians,and the others of like mind[jews, budhist,etc.] are good luck,a pleasure and a delight to have around. you can actually feel yourself get smarter.[because they lift you from your belly feeding on the dust of the earth.]anybody with half a brain that can think for themselves knows they bring stability to society.if you want to know why you would have to learn for yourself.the others bring nothing but despair, misery and confusion where ever they go.its a historical fact.thats why they try to assault the ones of like ‘mind’.
December 10th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
WE KNOW THE PEOPLE IN HIGH PLACES ARE f---INGG US. were gonna make you f---ers pay one day, if not you then your kids, if not your kids then your kids kids.
we won’t forget your decisions, oh so smart ruling class. we are gonna make your blood pay.
we aren’t like you and never will be. MAJORITY WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL. its getting biblical.
December 10th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Have you heard about the fornicating human herd?
December 10th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
@yes
yeah, let’s our kids kids kids do the dirty work
December 10th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
wow talk about a bottleneck of information here.
the only posts that show up are mundane one or two line posts.
this is done intentionally by this site.
not that the posters have nothing to say.
therefore you only see what infowars “allows” you to see.
which yields a skewed view by even coming here and trying to participate. their view.
so i won’t be particpating any longer.
anyone needs me, head for the rocky mountains on the east side near metro Denver.
get a bullhorn, holler for “Red”
other than that, your on your own.
c’ya
December 10th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
wow talk about a bottleneck of information here.
the only posts that show up are mundane one or two line posts.
this is done intentionally by this site.
not that the posters have nothing to say.
therefore you only see what infowars “allows” you to see.
which yields a skewed view by even coming here and trying to participate. their view.
so i won’t be particpating any longer.
anyone needs me, head for the rocky mountains on the east side near metro Denver.
get a bullhorn, holler for “Red”
other than that, your on your own…
c’ya
December 10th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
End the Fed and get out of the U.N. now!
December 10th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
wow talk about a bottleneck of information here.
the only posts that show up are mundane one or two line posts.
this is done intentionally by this site.
not that the posters have nothing to say.
therefore you only see what infowars “allows” you to see.
which yields a skewed view by even coming here and trying to participate. their view.
so i won’t be particpating any longer.
anyone needs me, head for the rocky mountains on the east side near metro Denver.
get a bullhorn, holler for “Red”
other than that, your on your own…….
c’ya
December 10th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Listen,
Indian reservations are nothing more than 18th and 19th century “FEMA” camps imposed upon them by the US government.
All these years have past, and no one gives the modern day American Indian a second thought anymore and they are still in their “FEMA” camps even today!
Now that the shoe is on the other foot, why all of the hooplah?
If you study the American Indian and their extermination, you will see history repeating itself today only on a much grander scale.
It isn’t just once race or creed they are going after this time.
It is entire nations and entire nationalities!
I suggest curling up with a good book about the plight of the American Indian and what was done to them politically back then and even today, and use it as a reference to learn how to better fight the command structure of the NWO right now, today.
Same tactics, grander scale, same seeds of satan himself doing the persecuting only in a different time period.
You will be absolutely amazed how the modus operandi never changes with these NWO creeps. Even through the centuries! The most basic question remains however..
Will we never learn?
Because it isn’t looking good.
December 10th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Bear Creek Soups
All you do is add hot water and you have two gallons of the best soup you’ll ever eat.
They have all sorts of varities even one called “Damn Good Chili”
And it is DAMN GOOD CHILI!
They can be stored for up to one year too!
I highly recommend them to anyone!
better THAN HOMEMADE!
100% NATURAL!
They were an Idaho based company if I remember right.
Salt Lake City? C’oeur De Alene?
THEY’RE IN ALL OF THER MAJOR CHAINS AND THE MINOR REGIONAL ONES TOO.
December 10th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
8 step plan for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
1. I think all US patriots of any political stripe or skin color need to assemble in Texas!
2. Forcefully run all of the illegals the hell out of our new country (TEXAS)!
3. Seal our new countries borders!
4. Secede from the union!
5. Install Ron Paul as the first ever President of the Republic of Texas!
6. Install Dennis Kucinich as his VP!
7. Texas has all of the armaments factories or the majority of them anyway!
8. We would be set for life!
That way the USA would have to buy their military weapons from Israel after we all get filthy rich selling them to Israel!!
That would be our new GDP!
he he he
I love how karma works!!!
December 10th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD7s4i_X-p0
Remember Patriots!
“There must be some kinda way out of here”
Said the joker to the thief
“There’s too much confusion
I can’t get no relief”
“Businessmen, they, they drink my wine
Plowmen dig my earth
None will level on the line
Nobody of it is worth”, hey
“No reason to get excited”
The thief, he kindly spoke
“There are many here among us
Who feel that life is but a joke”
“But you and I, we’ve been through that
And this is not our fate
So let us not talk falsely now
The hour is getting late”, hey
Hey
All along the watchtower
Princes kept the view
While all the women came and went
Barefoot servants too
Outside in the cold distance
A wildcat did growl
Two riders were approaching
And the wind began to howl, hey
All along the watchtower
All along the watchtower
December 10th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Wow. Just wow.
My comments disappearing.
And you call this site infowars?
Makes me wonder just whose side this place is on anyway.
You make it like a chess match trying get posts that stay put.
I have to keep trimming my relevant posts into the nether world until their is really nothing left
available that will post that is worthwhile to even hold a conversation.
There is a war on alright.
And it is right here at this site by not letting one person speak to another.
December 10th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
COWARDS DIE MANY DEATHS……
BRAVE MEN ONLY DIE ONCE.
December 10th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
I have heard of “artificial insemination” before.
But never “artificial articulation” before.
This sites monitors have all the bases covered.
End result?
What *they* want you to hear and strictly nothing else.
Artificial Intrusion
December 10th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
Has anyone ever gone up to the NWO and asked them just what it is they wanted exactly?
Instead of taking a negative posture right off the bat with them why not try talking to them?
Maybe this is all a big mistake and we’re all just jumping to conclusions here.
Has anyone ever asked them what it is they want?
If no one has, then this whole “NWO” premise you base this entire site upon is entirely fabricated and just plain wrong.
December 10th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
First it’s the universal health care mandate. (silence in america)
Now it’s universal climate care mandate. (silence in america)
Everything is looking pretty well universal these days. (still more silence)
Pretty much one world union alright. (sound asleep)
Right on schedule. (big yawn in america)
And what do we do?
Pass the remote, flip the boob tube, drink some brewskis and bang the old lady.
December 11th, 2009 at 5:31 am
Look at it this way… If you could get the Catholics to stop reproducing you guys might solve that immigration problem you’re always pissing and moaning about…
December 11th, 2009 at 6:53 am
world population chart not from any gov. source http://www.futureofmankind.co......Table_2009
December 11th, 2009 at 7:20 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gENrt4ju8oU