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  • Electronic Police State 2008

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    Cryptome
    May 12, 2009

    Most of us are aware that our governments monitor nearly every form of electronic communication. We are also aware of private companies doing the same. This strikes most of us as slightly troubling, but very few of us say or do much about it. There are two primary reasons for this:

    featured stories   Electronic Police State 2008
    In this scene from Das leben Der Anderen (The Lives of Others), Stasi agents bug a target’s flat. That was then, this is now. Now the government has invasive technology that makes the Stasi’s crude bugging equipment look like child’s play.

    1. We really don’t see how it is going to hurt us. Mass surveillance is certainly a new, odd, and perhaps an ominous thing, but we just don’t see a complete picture or a smoking gun.

    2. We are constantly surrounded with messages that say, “Only crazy people complain about the government.”

    However, the biggest obstacle to our understanding is this: The usual image of a “police state” includes secret police dragging people out of their homes at night, with scenes out of Nazi Germany or Stalin’s USSR. The problem with these images is that they are horribly outdated. That’s how things worked during your grandfather’s war — that is not how things work now.

    An electronic police state is quiet, even unseen. All of its legal actions are supported by abundant evidence. It looks pristine.

    An electronic police state is characterized by this:

    State use of electronic technologies to record, organize, search and distribute forensic evidence against its citizens.

    The two crucial facts about the information gathered under an electronic police state are these:

    1. It is criminal evidence, ready for use in a trial.

    2. It is gathered universally and silently, and only later organized for use in prosecutions.

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    In an Electronic Police State, every surveillance camera recording, every email you send, every Internet site you surf, every post you make, every check you write, every credit card swipe, every cell phone ping… are all criminal evidence, and they are held in searchable databases, for a long, long time. Whoever holds this evidence can make you look very, very bad whenever they care enough to do so. You can be prosecuted whenever they feel like it — the evidence is already in their database.

    Perhaps you trust that your ruler will only use his evidence archives to hurt bad people. Will you also trust his successor? Do you also trust all of his subordinates, every government worker and every policeman? And, if some leader behaves badly, will you really stand up to oppose him or her? Would you still do it if he had all the emails you sent when you were depressed? Or if she has records of every porn site you’ve ever surfed? Or if he knows every phone call you’ve ever made? Or if she knows everyone you’ve ever sent money to? Such a person would have all of this and more — in the form of court-ready evidence — sitting in a database, waiting to be organized at the touch of a button.

    This system hasn’t yet reached its full shape, but all of the basics are in place and it is not far from complete in some places. It is too late to prevent this — it is here. Our purpose in producing this report is to let people know that their liberty is in jeopardy and to help them understand how it is being undermined.

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    156 Responses to “Electronic Police State 2008”

    1. cdeavesdrop Says:

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      Mr. Spiegel Reply:

      Vueflix.com… pretty awesome.

      OathKeeper Reply:

      Hey Alex thought you might be interested to know that Prisonplanet.com is blocked on DOD computers but we can still get on Infowars.

      rjmichigan Reply:

      Why doesn’t Alex talk about how the government made us coporations by printing our names in all capital letters and then selling our births certificates on the stock exchange to be exchanged around the world. Tell us how to be free. Not stupid slaves to a fake system.

      Chips Reply:

      I believe the corporation part is correct, but not necessarily the all caps. I’ve not seen or heard evidence that the capital letters are legally significant – nor does it make sense. What matters is that we’re bought and sold. What matters are the agreements, or treaties, or bankruptcy proceedings, or whatever paper really established the situation; and how to deal with them legally and effectively.

      …which is what you said!

      animotionman Reply:

      Simply put you choose to allow thier courts and gov. agents jurisdiction over you. Accept the Caps in your name and empower them over you, deny consent to take back your freedom. All governance is consentual. You do not have a first & last name, you have a given and family name. They can only take you to a defacto court which has no power unless given.

      ScrewyL Reply:

      OathKeeper…

      Put up signs where you can!

      Java1993 Reply:

      Its came up on my DoD based computer. Maybe it hasn’t gotten to all of them yet? I would imagine pretty soon neither of them will.

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    2. cdeavesdrop Says:

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    3. REALMAN Says:

      Well said. I urge everyone who reads this to do as much as you can to minimize your exposure to these technologies. Don’t use that grocery savings card that tracks your purchases. You can usually tell the cashier that you forgot it and they will use a store card to give you the discount. Avoid places that want a thumb scan to use their services. Speak out at your local city councils if they are discussing red light cameras or street surveillance cameras.

      There are many things you can do. If you decide not to use a service or business with intrusive technologies… Tell them why.

      John T. Reply:

      I’m not going thru all the ‘hide ‘em’ crap. If ‘they’ come to confiscate my legal, paid for, licensed stuff
      a whole bunch will not make it. I’ll continue to do and say anything I want, without using online profanity (much!) I’ll paste any bumber stickers (see above) all over my vehicle. It would not (NOT) be adviseable for me to be questioned, detained, harrassed or etc. I will respond in kind and will never tolerate such crap.

      GhostTroop Reply:

      Uh-huh. Sure.

      Armed*Serenity}-;='--- Reply:

      EXACTLY!

      Lex Pakistan Reply:

      Speaking out at a city council meeting is a great place to start. Take the fight to them. You’ll be suprized at the results. If you think the state or federal government is tyranny, look no further than your own towns laws and ordinances! Great place to start, I’ve held protests in front of the councils chambers, and have run for city council twice myself. If you want proof-my name is Ron Dredge Jr. from Cherry county Nebraska, have a look. My e-mail is ronforcitycouncil@hotmail.com, give me a chat if you want. Don’t be afraid of those crooked bastards, Im from a town of 3000 people I woke up about 500. Pretty good eh?

      Newspeak Reply:

      Coupons to counteract losses on grocery cards – or find establishments that don’t offer savings with the grocery card! Better yet – local if ya can find a good one!

      Lex Pakistan Reply:

      I buy local whenever I can. Farmers markets will be opening up soon, go to them and buy buy buy! Better yet, take some of your own goods and trade, trade, trade. Trading will take the money men out of the transaction, one more way to stick it to the man! I moved into an apartment in the city so my half acher will lay fallow for this year, but I plan on taking baked goods to trade for fresh vegetables. Thing is here in the city you need to have a “food handlers permit”, one more hoop to jump through. Why god, did I move away from god country? Oh yeah, I got a job working on jet aircraft. $$$- hey that just means more guns and ammo! Don’t worry folks-”F.O.B. Wiskey Richard” is still mine-o-mine. It’s my fail safe, fall back point, where I know I’ll be surrounded by partiots.

    4. SteralizeTheNWO Says:

      Them asshole gotta hate me. I have a home business with 3 people living here. Someone is ALWAYS home. I got 1 up on them Inbreeders.

      homedawg Reply:

      dont keep your cell phone in the same room with you…I leave mine in an unused utility room when I am home..scratch out the hologram on your car tag between the numbers,pre dig your stash holes for your gun containers…that way when you hear the confiscation is under way all you have to do is stick your tubes in the hole and cover it up,have your running kits prepacked and near the back door…lots of little things can be done to save time when the crunch hits…Peace…Watch out for Stobor

      Jeremiah III Reply:

      Cell phones: Keep them in the microwave if there is a sensitive conversation. It can’t send or receive. Of course, out in the car is good too!

      GUS Reply:

      I hate to poop on your parade but mind reading technology has been around well over ten years.

    5. Pretzle Head Says:

      Pssst…are you listening…. ?

      THEN S U K , not ‘you’ but, not ‘right’ –> but <–, not ‘on’ but.

      LMAO

      I love puzzles !!!!

      Pretzle Head Reply:

      I threw ya a left curve ;)

      Teddys Tumor Reply:

      only if anybody takes the time to fool with games at a time like this…i sure dont…

    6. the dog that bites Says:

      when i think back all those years ago as a kid,you start to see the beginning of their control grid being layed down. the lies that education taught us,or incomplete truths.the hatered planted in my brain.think of the injustices we watched on tv like a bad movie,becoming more and surreal. stick to the game plan,expose them all,sell the tv and get ready to fight for truth and liberty.

      Michael the Gardener Reply:

      No Ball Games

    7. JANET JUBILEE Says:

      I got a non moving violation ticket sixteen years ago, STILL THERE. I got a rolling stop sign ticket from an insane cop right around election money time, hiding behind the shrubs. You can see both citations on THE DEKALB COUNTY STATE COURT ONLINE public database. The court made me look guilty on it. The records will be there for the rest of my life. The charges were not prosecuted, but are always there, on that and several databases. I added titles like HOMELAND DEATH CAMPS to my record in the form of a motion. Anyone who sees it will understand that I am a CHRISTIAN PATRIOT! I pay too many taxes to them to be treated like crap!
      Truthnews@aol.com

      vikingscool Reply:

      I don’t bother with my record for violation and misdemanors. I don’t give rat ass about my criminal record. It’s about my life, God serves me.

      Ester Reply:

      God doesn’t serve you, WE are to serve God !! When we do His will He will save us. The truth shall set us free, and the TRUTH is JESUS !

      God bless ya !

      In the name of Allah. Reply:

      I understand Christians and their deep faith.. but why must you claim something you know nothing of? No one is sure what religion is right and wrong, or if there even is a God. I believe Jesus was real, because he’s the most quoted prophet in the Quran. But I still have questions and shit about it all.. and I think he was nothing more than a prophet. The bible has been rewritten over and over.. by at least 23 different authors. I don’t see the truth and credibility in that fact. But Bless you either way, and let whatever God there is guide you on the right path in these hard times.

      Look no further than yourself to find a Heaven within.

      Ester Reply:

      I know one thing: also as a muslim you want to serve God, and there is only one God ! But He is not a God of violence but a God of peace and love. He showed us His love by sending His son Jesus to die on the cross for everything we have done wrong. But because most people reject Jesus, we have all this chaos in this world. Nothing will change it unless WE get changed by HIM from the INSIDE ! James askes in the Bible: “What causes fights (wars) and quarrels among you? Don’t they come from your desires that battle within you? You want something but you don’t get it. You kill and covet, but you cannot have what you want. You quarrel and fight. You do not have because you do not ask God. When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.” (James 4;1-3)
      I rather follow Him who has defeated devil and death and who himself is the Life ! He will put everything right !!! And all who follow Him now will JUDGE the NATIONS with Him !

      PS:
      By the way ,I’m writing from Germany and I was born in East-Germany and grew up under communism and was imprisoned as a “political prisoner” (trying to leave the country illegally). I know what it’s like when big brother is watching you. Don’t believe everything, because just like in the East – Big Brother (Stasi) was usually your next door neighbour or even your best friend !!

      May the LORD JESUS be with you !

      In the name of Allah. Reply:

      Ester, Jesus is the most quoted prophet in the Qu’ran.. as I’ve posted before. Most religions accept him as the Messiah. As for why violence happens.. well forcing a religion onto people through death and torture doesn’t always work. Now that you have pissed off muslims being the scapegoat for this ‘war’ and shit, and they’re fighting back and blowing people up along with themselves, people view muslims as the problem. Muslims teach peace.. but one can only take so much. I agree with fighting back like Palestine, I agree with alotta shit ‘terrorists’ do because most know they’ll die anyway, so why not take others with you. Being a pacifist and peaceful doesn’t get anywhere. I won’t lead my people around like MLK Jr. to get beaten, shot, gassed, sprayed with firehoses, etc. I’d rather lead an armed revolt or carry guns like the Black Panthers.

    8. Sir Baby De Porky Says:

      The Stasi actually went into people’s homes when they were toilling away , and removed ONE
      item from their belongings !!! People got hip to it , and started putting a thin layer of flour on the
      ground , to see if they had come snoopin’ !!!

      P.S. Fight the NWO !!! Sprinkle flour on the ground ( if you’re not starving , I guess !!! )

    9. activate Says:

      you will need some 4in PVC pipe and screw on end caps…dig a hole wide enough and deep to hold the tube upright…one tube per gun and mmo….leave the srew cap about 4 inches below the surface…when you retreive,all you need to do is unclver the end cap….plan on having some small potted plants to plant on top of the cap hole….dont forget a dessicant pack for each tube….instant garden

      toecutter Reply:

      4″ in. isnt large enough. You need 6in min. 8 or larger is better but the end caps are big$$$. 20mm ammo cans work very well. Bury them shallow so you can dig them up without a shovel.

    10. activate Says:

      wow…you can carry ALL your guns at one time?..hmmm…must not have many huh?…I carry 1 of each and bury the rest for another time….but thats you i guess…

      ScrewyL Reply:

      1. Snubnosed pistol (”Chief’s Special” or “Walther P99″) – for personal protection

      2. Standard handgun (”Dessert Eagle” or “Browning 9MM”) – for small game & enforcement

      3. Tactical Rifle (”M4 Carbine”) – for passing through ;)

      4. Large rifle (”Marlin 1895″ or “M1 Garand” for cheap) – for hunting & defending land

      #1 in your crotch. #2 on your hip (possibly one on each). #3 in the crook of your elbow, and #4 slung onto your shoulder. Four guns, all carried nicely.

      Two things missing: Shotgun & Crossbow – but you still have another shoulder :D

      ScrewyL Reply:

      And BTW, you’ll rarely actually carry ‘em all… But you could. Enjoy

    11. Scott Webb Says:

      Meanwhile in the UK………Report people who wear too much ‘bling’ to Crimestoppers http://tiny.cc/ULzYr I kid you not…..seriously you can’t make this up

      011000101000110111001010101 Reply:

      I post my opinion on their website:

      It is not secret UK becoming another Nazi puppet state controlled by bankers of Roman-Catholic Emporium.

      They say:We have thousands of posts so we censor them (to be sure just the best ones went trough)

      Scott Webb Reply:

      Yeh i away try to make a comment but i think my name is on every newspaper forum watch list in the country

    12. homedawg Says:

      people,dont wait for this to start….begin your stash program now….one suggestion is aw that I really liked was to buy 400 dollar clunker and load up your extra guns,ammo and extra gear in the trunk…park it at a mall or shopping center a mile or so away from your house…move it every day or so to a new spot….nothing connects it to your property….instant safe house where you can go to get gear in time of need….Peace…Watch out for Stobor

      ScrewyL Reply:

      No vehicle will be safe in that event, unfortunately (mobile armor!)

      Better to pack a bag & head for the sewers, and make your way over borders via wilderness.

    13. www.AmericaReclaimed.com Says:

      All out war on the internet.

    14. BLACK MAGIC Says:

      Attack rather then Surrender is right!!!!!

      The truth is,… we already one ;) just waiting on the Press/Public to catch up thats all…

      GhostTroop Reply:

      We have no ‘won’. The war is only beginning.

    15. imSPAGACKED24-7 Says:

      dont wait, HOOP-IT now!

    16. jhjgf Says:

      Ok, thanks.

    17. jhjgf Says:

      hahaha, yea I remember hearing about all the Patriots who made a stand against and fought back against the nazi troops in Katrina.

    18. Married to 1/3 Native American Says:

      Surveillance spying is the way of the future for big business’s and government control.

      MIKEY1966 Reply:

      Married to 1/3 Native American Says:
      May 12th, 2009 at 6:56 pm

      Surveillance spying is the way of the future for big business’s and government control.
      FOR SURE BY BIG BUSINESS , IT SEEMS THAT I EVERY TIME I SEARCH FOR A CERTAIN ITEM AND I WAS ON YOUTUBE OR OTHER BLOG SITE THE PROPANE GENERATOR THERE WAS AN AD ,AND JUST THE OTHER DAY I WAS SEARCHING FOR A PRICE ON A RUGER 10/22 RIFLE AND LOW AND BEHOLD THERE WAS AN AD ON THE BLOG SITE I GO TO ALL THE TIME

      niknik Reply:

      yes. S.C.A.R.Y. Or like how I’ll look at certain ads online and never submit my information for purchase or contact or anything but somehow they’ll acquire my CELL number and call me to sell to me….

    19. Death to the bilderberg nazi scum world order Says:

      SEVERAL ACTIONS/ PETITIONS (HEALTH,ETC)

      (wethepeoplefoundation.org)
      - givemeliberty.org/revolution

      (anhcampaign.org/get-involved)
      - ipetitions.com/petition/anh-vitaminrestrictions/index.html

      - naturalnews.com/025719.html healthrevolutionpetition.org

      (nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3113337.htm)
      - thepetitionsite.com/5/congressional-oversight-needed-to-stop-fdas-trilateral-cooperation-charter

      - https://secure.freepress.net/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=305

      GhostTroop Reply:

      Egress to other options, and maneuvers. Petitions are long past the point of dead.

    20. roaddog Says:

      what about the “suspected” part.

    21. mr activist Says:

      amazing film (the lives of others) – make sure you check it out.. also check out the counterfeiters, it really gives an insight to how a system is sustained by those who comply under threat of punishment

      Newspeak Reply:

      The Germans make great movies – people can’t get over the subtitles.

      IAmActivist Reply:

      exactly – the edukators and run lola run are others that are well worth watching.

      but generally independant films are better, regardless of where they come from. watch “a scanner darkly” – great film, and its american too. plus its got a lot of themes which have parallels to this nwo stuff.

    22. Stop deleteing my replies!!! Says:

      Sob sob sob wah wah wah… All I hear is “You Tube banned us” sob sob ” Google banned us” boo hoo. BOO FUCKIN HOO INFO WARS> THATS WHAT YOU GET FOR DELETING PEOPLES COMMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    23. Death to the bilderberg nazi scum world order Says:

      PETITION TO BLOCK CONGRESSIONAL ATTACKS ON FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND PRESS

      wnd.com/index.php?pageId=87882

      ============

      ##SPREAD THIS INFORMATION##

      Collapse driven by fraud:
      rawstory.com/news/2008/Economist_US_collapse_driven_by_fraud_0404.html

      Wall Street criminals exposed By Marcy K.:
      kaptur.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=289&Itemid=1

      marcykaptur.com

      youtube.com/watch?v=S27yitK32ds

      Rep. Alan Grayson asks the Federal Reserve Inspector General:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXlxBeAvsB8
      youtube.com/watch?v=iF83wwij828

      #####BEAT THE FUCKERS#####

      MAKE GROW THIS POWERFULL ACTION:
      ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/audit-the-federal-reserve-hr-1207
      &
      campaignforliberty.com/campaigns/auditthefed.php

      ##PETITIONS##

      alternet.org/workplace/133275/powerful_banks_and_government_handouts_to_the_rich%3A_it%27s_time_for_protest

      thepetitionsite.com/1/down-with-federal-reserve

      petitiononline.com/fedres/petition.html

      More information and petitions here:
      anewwayforward.org/demonstrations

    24. Death to the bilderberg nazi scum world order Says:

      SEVERAL ACTIONS/ PETITIONS (HEALTH,ETC)

      (wethepeoplefoundation.org)
      - givemeliberty.org/revolution

      (anhcampaign.org/get-involved)
      - ipetitions.com/petition/anh-vitaminrestrictions/index.html

      - naturalnews.com/025719.html healthrevolutionpetition.org

      (nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3113337.htm)
      - thepetitionsite.com/5/congressional-oversight-needed-to-stop-fdas-trilateral-cooperation-charter

      - https://secure.freepress.net/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=305

    25. Death to the bilderberg nazi scum world order Says:

      SAY NO TO THE NAZI SCUM WORLD ORDER

      SIGN:
      http://www.wnd.com/index.php?f.....geId=94298

      niknik Reply:

      why would I want to put my name on another list?

    26. Jeremiah III Says:

      During an insurgency, when one is outgunned and out-manned, the slow and steady route is the key to success. It’s not about “balls”, as you say, it’s about LIVING and efficiency. You go ahead and bullhorn your strikes…I’ll stick with the guys who’s “mommas” gave them BRAINS. I hope to see my balls bouncing after I plow the back 40. Hopefully we’ll see these Fascists behind bars and it won’t come to having to rely on stealth.

    27. jonnyairtime Says:

      sing the petition assert our rights as sovereign citizens of the United States of America A bankrupt Nation laws that are not of YAHWEH … NO SIR i think not I am a free man i have no need to sing yr papers my mind is free i have my path and i am not going to BE PUT ON A LIST over yr Petition … sing the paper like the Nazi WANTED YOU TOO .

      death to the bilderbergscum Reply:

      ok, i’m not posting this one again.

    28. Tomer Says:

      the sky turns grey as the police march through the streets people screaming as police raid houses over a fake terrorist threat.

    29. Princess Zelda Says:

      We need to give our NSA unlimited access to our Telecommunications who are protecting our FREEDOM. We should be delighted that NSA is monitoring calls and electronic traffic on a massive scale, because catching terrorists is far more important that worrying about the government’s listening to our phone calls, or reading my emails.

      GhostTroop Reply:

      Just remember, that the Government created the terrorist. You know what I did every time I made it to a new level growing up? I killed the Princess.

      Blade Runner Reply:

      Are you a Replicant?

      niknik Reply:

      You really think they’re interested in or concerned with our safety? REALLY? You think they care about catching terrorists? Do you really believe THAT is their agenda or point? Not to create enough fear, “bang the drums of war” to “whip the citizenry into a fervor” so we’ll just hand over our freedom and beg to be policed, kind of like everything you just said, “we need to give our NSA unlimited access…” THE HELL WE DO! Know who I trust to save my ass? me.

      Anyway, I hope you were being facetious.

    30. dWaRf mApLe Says:

      http://911essentials.com says screw the electronic police state and the inbred cretins that run it.

      911essentials is a primer portal introduction to the New World Order Corporate Banking Police State, its plans for one world government and their worship of the fake science Eugenics.

    31. Levon Says:

      I saw this movie when it came out. It was shocking. Many people I know lived in the soviet union/soviet regions and it was hell.

    32. Kill the bilderberg nazi scum world order Says:

      #####BEAT THE FUCKERS#####

      end the fed usa .ning.com/notes/Support_HR_1207_and_HR_833!

      end the fed.us/media/RepealPetition.pdf

    33. Kyle Says:

      I cannot even access Youtube right now. I was commenting on the Infowarrior from yesterday and then all of a sudden..

    34. ghost Says:

      WTF!!!!!! i cant post comments on youtube. guess they don’t like the account name (fukdaNWO) lmfao. oh well.

      oh yea and those converter boxes have cameras in them. my brother and his gf (at the time) turned on the tv and saw themselves in the tv. the screen had a line of white snow and when his gf raised her hands up in the air the snow went up. she moved them to the left the snow went left and right to the right. they could actually see themselves in the tv. go figure huh?

      Ill Reply:

      Why watch TV anyway?

      JohnT Reply:

      When you’re retired, old (64), limited funds due to a $762. a month Chap. 13 payment, there is sometimes not much else affordable. I did see Star Trek and it was great.
      I know that’s irrelevant, but then so are a lot of these posts. Whatever.

      Ill Reply:

      Plenty of books and things to learn out there.. no matter what age. I’m 19 so I might not see it how you do, but I think there’s always other alternatives than mindless TV programs.

    35. bob klinck Says:

      The control device in Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia (and other communist states) was to induce people to spy on their neighbours and associates and, out of a sense of duty or fear of punishment for not reporting, to report on their questionable (in the eyes of the ruling elite) activities. In our time, as electronic communication has flourished, this has been superseded by a more centralized surveillance system. However, the old approach is sure to be revived eventually, because of the corrupting influence it has on the population. People are not demoralized by being remotely spied on in the same way as when they cannot be sure if their neighbours and friends and family have been coopted into doing the spying.

    36. Brigand Says:

      I was in New Orleans for nine months performing animal rescue following Hurricane Katrina…there were armed gangs at forst, and they needed to be disarmed…I carried a weapon with me and was never bothered by any LEO or military…as far as actual door-to-door confiscation was concerned, I never saw any of it, and I was all over that city for months on end….

      Captain Trips Reply:

      Yeah, it never happened. All that video showing jack-booted thugs beating up old ladies and breaking down doors must have been faked. Those piles upon piles of rusted weapons the thugs took from law abiding citizens don’t exist either, it’s all in my mind.

      You’re a shill. You saw the armed gangs but didn’t see the weapons being confiscated from ordinary citizens. No LEO bothered you, you were all over the city for months, but I guess all the video is just paranoid fantasy. No one was harmed, police didn’t shoot at normal people trying to cross the bridges that led out of the city. Nah…You didn’t see it so it couldn’t have happened.

      niknik Reply:

      I’d believe it. Just more staged media b.s. to lend to the “religion” that we all need “protection” from the state so we’ll hand over our liberty to pay for it.

    37. Outrage Says:

      So what’s the real difference. STASI, KGB, Gestapo et. al. from the ‘bad old days’ when the Commies & Fascists were at least HONEST about it. CIA, FBI, NSA, IRS, EPA just from Amerika. They will ALL spy on you, enlist rats & snitches, tap your communications & gather ‘evidence’ against you, to be used against you later. They will drag your ass out of your home, car place of employment, the line at the airport, slap you in chains & throw you into jail. If they can’t get their hands on you easily they have NO trouble killing your entire family in an effort to make you surrender ‘peacefully’. So this isn’t a police state? I laugh every time I see a cop car with “To Protect and Serve” plastered on the back. Laugh till I puke! What’s the difference, anybody?

      DM Reply:

      Oh, you didn’t know? The “Protect and Serve” on the police vehicles refers to protecting and serving the will of the “elite”.

      Chips Reply:

      Unfortunately, you’re right. Ain’t no difference.

    38. society for poets against the NWO prats. Says:

      So Many Questions

      Have you ever been so sure that you don’t know
      Have you ever tried and failed to go with the flow
      Have you ever been so confused that it all becomes so clear
      Have you ever been so safe that you’re overcome with fear

      Sing me your troubles and I’ll paint you a solution
      Accept this tragic fate or start a revolution
      My eyes have seen more than i wished they’d ever had
      Leave me in my cage I’m only happy when I’m sad

      The rules make no sense if you win you lose
      If you walk the wrong way then just blame it on your shoes
      Go get so sideways you forget your name
      Now forgive yourself it’s the nature of the game

      Have you ever been so blinded that you see the complete picture
      have you ever been reminded of a memory from the future
      Have you ever been so engaged that you come across aloof
      Have you ever been so wrong that you wind up at the truth

    39. loudbug Says:

      Tell me..Tell me please…don’t officers work for us ?? WOW !! please please help me….ughhhthis is jyst crazy…

    40. mutant underground Says:

      so is it time to start shooting people yet?

      JohnT Reply:

      Just depends who they are.
      signed Proletariat.

    41. N HUman Says:

      Check out this new article about the Leftists Gatekeepers and 9/11

      http://www.fadsmashers.com/7/p.....pathy.html

    42. N HUman Says:

      Not to be used as fodder for the christian right wing!

      http://www.fadsmashers.com/7/p.....pathy.html

    43. muuuhahahaha! Says:

      Well no need to wait for the pending sensorship laws to come into being to have your First Amendment rights revolked….just post your comments on Infowars and watch them DISAPPEAR when you refresh the page.

      This is starting to occur far to often for this site or it’s host to be taken seriously anymore and as far as Jones goes Wes Penre may be on to something…

      muuuhahahaha! Reply:

      Ya sure leave this post up back up yoyr claims you don’t sensor but what happened to the last post that suggested how to used these rediculous hate laws that Alex has been bitching about for the last few days against themselves?

      “Tis too much proved–that with devotion’s visage
      And pious action we do sugar o’er The devil himself
      And thus you clothe your naked villany
      With odd old ends stol’n out of holy writ,
      And seem a saint, when most you play the devil.”

      DavidSeattle Reply:

      I wish you would DISAPPEAR with your garbage and punk as mouth.

      Losers like u are a dime a dozen.

    44. DavidSeattle Says:

      Recently I went through Jonathan Swift and George Orwell quotations, thought I’d share a few:

      “When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him.”

      –Jonathan Swift

      “Censure is the tax a man pays to the public for being eminent.”

      –Jonathan Swift

      “It is almost universally felt that when we call a country democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one meaning.”

      –George Orwell

      “The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one’s real and one’s declaired aims, one turns instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish squirting out ink.”

      –George Orwell

    45. Pancho Villa Says:

      Yep….sad but true,but don’t worried keep praying for a miracle.
      http://english.pravda.ru/opini.....pitalism-0

    46. Pancho Villa Says:

      http://english.pravda.ru/opini.....pitalism-0

    47. Pancho Villa Says:

      Here…hav some more.
      http://fufor.twoday.net/stories/5691053/

    48. Craig Says:

      It still amazes me that whenever I bring up such things with the uninitiated, they really don’t see it happening. I guess Alan Watt was right when he said that decades of propaganda have worked, obviously they have. If we lose, it is gonna be, in large part, because the majority are still “sucking their thumbs”, as Alex would say. “Good” people who simply “want” things to be “nice” and I guess figure that if there really is bad stuff going on, that someone else(like the people on here) will deal with it, and then everything will be fine. Nietzsche wrote something once about “good” people being the most harmful type of people on earth and I agree. I will elaborate on what he meant by “good”. He said “good” people never tell the truth, so now you understand where I am coming from when I say “good” people. Afterall “evil” cannot be expected to do anything other than “evil”. That is who they are, but “good” people who spend their entire lives on that river in Egypt, they are the reason that all this shit is allowed to happen. Having said that, I still think we must reserve any anger we may have for those directly responsible and try to enlighten those who are asleep to it all. Basically, we must bear the burden of knowing and also be big enough to not hate those who are(in many cases), willfully ignorant of the ways of the world and may even(if it comes down to it) fight against those who are trying to help them.(of course I’m not saying to allow them to win, in any way shape or form.) That is the situation. I guess if you’re on here, maybe you were just meant to know, deal with it how you see fit. Fucking “good” people test my patience sometimes. Thank God for alcohol. Have a good one all.

      niknik Reply:

      Very eloquent, Craig. Can I quote this occasionally?

      trinitytexas Reply:

      Craig, your comment was spot on and very well written. I agree with you that we do “bear the burden of knowing and also be big enough to not hate those who are willfully ignorant of the ways of the world”. Some days that gets really hard for many of us, including me. I work in the service industry and you can’t imagine how many willfully ignorant people I talk to on a daily basis. I want to just pull up a chair and tell them everything I have researched. Most of them wouldn’t have a clue about where I was coming from, nor would they care. They’re still in their programming and are still walking, talking robots… all products of bad television and advertising. I quote from the book “Amusing Ourselves to Death” by Neil Postman: “Americans no longer talk to each other, they entertain each other, They do not exchange ideas; they exchange images They do not argue with propositions; they argue with good looks, celebrities, and commercials.” I think you probably agree.
      Peace yall-
      trinitytexas

    49. Family Guardian Says:

      These spies are stupid, arrogant, not enough of them, lazy,over fed and there are just too many free thinking people for them to stop us. We all need to speak up to all around us at every checkout line, educate every librarian, challenge every government abuse of the rights of a free people.
      Get back to the basics at the Family Guardian http://famguardian.org/

    50. HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Says:

      “Three Days of the Condor” anyone??? “Body of Secrets” by James Bamford is off the hook!!! A great 70’s spy flick. Status Quo Antebellum(the state existing before the war). “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”

    51. Take down the Police State Says:

      If we don’t smash the system now, our communications will go, rendering our ease of spreading the revolution dead.

      The time is ripe for refreshing the tree of liberty.

      niknik Reply:

      fight club?

      Lex Pakistan Reply:

      Too much movie propaganda for you!

    52. jp Says:

      Air Jordan 7
      Air Jordan 8

    53. gravel kucinich paul nader Says:

      The problem’s plain to see
      To much technology
      Machines to save our lives
      Machines dehumanize

      The time has come at last
      To throw away this mask
      Now everyone can see
      My true identity…

    54. nader paul kucinich gravel Says:

      The problem’s plain to see
      To much technology
      Machines to save our lives
      Machines dehumanize

      The time has come at last
      To throw away this mask
      Now everyone can see
      My true identity…

      Lex Pakistan Reply:

      Too much pop music for you!

    55. KulchaKlub Says:

      It’s too late already

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u03TfQN1pXo

    56. Chips Says:

      One post on this site is all they may need!

    57. force Says:

      No they’re not, they don’t care!!! It’ was over two hundred years ago!!!

      Brigand Reply:

      Captain Tripps…Um, how can I politely say this to you without offending you….ok, I got it…FUCK OFf…(call me a shill)…were you there, dickass?…or were you sitting there watching it on your TV and on the web?…you got a paper asshole, bitch…and, uh, no, I’m hardly a shill…I’m the real friggin’ deal, prick, and I train with one good set of men…shut your damn pizza hole, you fraud…

    58. system32 Says:

      I purposely visit sites and post comments to draw them out of the woodwork. They require technology to see me. I do not require technology to see them.

      I think they may be threatened by this.
      But as everyone says “Its all good”

    59. jane L. Says:

      All of the worlds “security” concerns came from 9-11. There were no commercial planes on 9-11. It was all a conspired, orchestrated, treasonous, murderous, calculated, fraudulent, colluded lie. All of it. Though 8 years later the world still pretends and protects the lies for money and control. There were NO commercial planes on 911. 911 was a lie. To this day not one single piece of airliner debris has ever been verified in any way. For the first time in aviation history the blackboxes and voice data recorders have never been verified. That’s a first in aviation history and it happened 4 times on the morning of 911. There were no commercial planes on 911. 911 was a lie and everything that has come from it is also a lie.

      On the morning of 911 not one single camera showed any passenger or “terrorist” boarding any plane at any of the 4 locations on the morning of 911. There were no commercial planes on 911. It was all a lie. To this day there is not one single piece of verifiable evidence that any plane existed at any of the 4 locations on 911. The FBI has now said after 8 years that not one single person on the planet is ever allowed to verify, test, or even see ANYTHING with regards to the “planes” of 911. There were no commercial planes on 911. It was all a lie.

      All the actions, wars, Acts, invasions, tortures, and agencies have all been set up from a lie. If it is found that these agencies, governments, media, politicians KNEW that there were no planes and then continued their actions….they should also be considered terrorists and sent to prison? “To protect a terrorist is to be a terrorist”? There were NO commercial planes on 911. The war on terror is over.

      Kim Reply:

      What about the videos of the planes crashing into the towers?

      niknik Reply:

      and all the people on the planes that families never saw again… were they just taken out by firing squad or…?

      death to the bilderbergscum Reply:

      3d hologragrahic image technology/ autopilot / army planes / etc.

      Whatever, that doesn’t mean anything / isnt important, because three towers are brought down, and there were no three planes.

      11sept is an inside job: to create the crisis, allowing wars,population reduction,..

      Its a staged event for building the nazi world order.

    60. Crito Says:

      Why should I hide? They’re the fascist pigs. I’m the patriot doing his duty to get rid of them. No need for me to hide. THEY’RE THE ONES THAT NEED TO HIDE.

      Oh, and if you’re not a fascist pig then you have nothing to worry about. :D ROFLMAO

    61. Newspeak Says:

      Wolverines!

    62. Corporate Death Says:

      At the end of the day, after you “wake up” the last sleeper, you’re all still going to be grammatically challenged slaves. Info wars is an endless vent for people that (sort of) read between the lines.

      O.k. So tell me, how many awakened souls before the “infowar” is over and the real war starts? Or, is that even the plan? What is the real war? The ballot box? The ammo box? The casket box?

      This is a directionless, reaction based group. Today, a reaction, fight youtube. Tomorrow, call your congressmen. It is not working folks.

      Ask yourself, how did you find out about “infowars” and Alex Jones?

      niknik Reply:

      Divine inspiration.

      I’m not wasting my energy writing my Senators. I know that’s a waste. I’m doing all I can to stock up and prep. I know it’s coming and it can’t be stopped. An infowar is good, though, to know how they will come at everybody. Know thy enemy. That’s what they’re doing, isn’t it, by watching?

      BobbieJo Reply:

      Yes Nik that is what they are doing. Watching and controlling. Memorize Psalm 91.
      God speed.

      Ill Reply:

      Alex Jones is a fearmonger. Simple as that. This site opens minds, and also misleads them. William Cooper put it best.

      BORNDIFFERENT Reply:

      WE ARE ALL (((BORN DIFFERENT))) AND LIVE DIFFERNT LIFES , AS IF IN DIFFERENT WORLDS…………………………………

      BUT WHEN WORLDS WELCOME WITH OPEN ARMS ,OUR HUMAN LUST DUS DISIRE, THE INSTINCT IS ABLAZE !!………

      WHAT HAVE THE AGES TOLD US ??
      WHAT HAVE THE ANCIENTS WARNED US!!
      WHAT HAVE THE GREAT RULERS OF THE MONACHEYS AND EMPIRES TOUGHT US ?

      BUT LESS WE HEAR……..

      SO WE WORK ; PAID HOURLEY LABOUR INCASH ,LIVE ,DIE AND PAY FOR EVERY SECOND OF OUR LIFES BY SWEAT ON OUR BROWE************

      BUT THROUGH OUT WE ARE JUST LIVING ”THE LIFE” ???

      ”LIKE”,

      ART, MUSIC, DRAMA ,LOVE OF LIFE ,THE LUST LOST, THE LUST GAINED ,THE GREED, GLUTONY & EXCITMENT EXPERIENCED WITH THE DANGERS THAT SHOCKED US BUT WE STILL DISIRED………………….TO CONTINUE.
      WE CRAVE EVERY SECOND OF OUR DEPRAIVED LIFES …………….

      BUT ASK MYSELF THE QUESTION ?
      HOW LONG CAN THIS SOCIETY SURVIVE THIS ”NEW AGE OF MAN”

    63. ScrewyL Says:

      Jeremiah;

      I have to disagree. During an insurgency like you describe, the key to survival is to run & hide. Hills, Mountains, dense overgrowth.

      Mr. KNOWNOTHING: You have to live to fight another day. Pick your battles.

    64. Mike Jones Says:

      This is by far the best comment I have ever seen…I wholeheartedly agree

      BE A MAN, STAND YOUR GROUND. THATS AN ORDER.

      By mr Know it all….

    65. Ill Says:

      I guess you don’t realize, some of those ‘crack dealers’ that the CIA supplies through webs and webs of distribution also speak out against the NWO. Aka Immortal Technique, Jedi Mind Tricks, Ill Bill, Necro, Akir, so on and so forth. They have big, big followings full of other militant dealers and ex-dealers. So those people you hate or criticize might be the people that will save your ass.

      Ill Reply:

      Oh and they also speak out against selling crack now.. selling drugs and performing a community genocide. They’re not ignorant like you are.

      niknik Reply:

      I dunno. Keep in mind it’s the not so quiet obedient citizens, ie: criminals, who are more likely to take up arms against forced “obedience” of militant tyrannical government. Citizens unite, I say. We all have a common interest no matter what we’re “selling” and we take any and all allies… IF the government doesn’t “recruit” the “undesirables” first.

    66. In the name of Allah. Says:

      We’re coming for blood.

      BobbieJo Reply:

      Your in the end game too whether you realize this or not. They are coming for your blood too. The way it is looking, the middle east is first on the list. If you are over there I would ask your allah for some kevlar and some iodine pills, radiation clothing, gas mask, things of such nature.

      In the name of Allah. Reply:

      I know more than most people on this site. You shouldn’t believe everything on this site.. and just because Allah is in my name doesn’t mean I’m from the middle east. I’m actually white and live in NY, so.. But what I meant was.. when it comes down to it, their blood is going to be spilled first and last. If mine is spilled to, then let it be spilled.

      I bare witness, there is nothing but Allah.

      RIP William Cooper.

    67. niknik Says:

      Dude, what’s with you and women? They’re just baby gardens for you or what?!

    68. Derek Says:

      As AJ has been saying for about 10+ years now, the elite has been building a global enslavement grid. I suggest we get guns, ammo, food and bury them all in a safe location. If you bought your guns from a gun show / gun shop and they are registered, if its a rifle or a shotgun (not a handgun), tell them you sold them all. Obama, with Eric Holder, will take our guns probably after the next false terror attack. What does everyone else think?

    69. BobbieJo Says:

      It is like they are preparing for something big to happen and they have to get a rein on the remainder of what is left of the populace when all is said and done.

    70. Barry's Crack Pipe Says:

      “Such a person would have all of this and more — in the form of court-ready evidence — sitting in a database, waiting to be organized at the touch of a button.”

      So what? How about every jury from now on just shows up to collect a check, eat lunch and then acquit every defendant? Trial by jury is the most important right we have as a free people. It is the ultimate check against tyranny. No matter what the thugs charge us with and no matter what kind of evidence they fabricate, a jury has the power to acquit—and there is not a damn thing the thugs can do about it. This is why secret trials are illegal. Besides trying to grab the guns, if any politician tries to eliminate trial by jury, they should be executed immediately as an enemy of the People and free men the world over.

    71. whatcould possibly happen Says:

      I mean, really?

    72. Unite! Says:

      Just how many people are oppressing our freedoms? 1,000, 10,000, 500? I wonder because I just somehow get the feeling, that it’s not as many people as those that oppose such a plot to control the world! How can it be seen that THE PEOPLE have any other position than the one of the UPPER HAND here?? Unite Already will ya! I would love to get back to living life and raising my family already. If we Stand United We WIN, if we don’t we lose. Choose your path now or move out of the way and go hide somewhere. Too much work to be done to be wasting time on people that represent the problem. BE THE SOLUTION!

      http://www.warnthepeople.org/t.....ounds.html

    73. kyla Says:

      This is not news…… why the hell do you think you need an email address to post crap on here?…..Duh!! with that being said……..A big “hello” to the secret police reading my post. :)

    74. Abbott Einstein Says:

      well written article!

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    76. Anon Says:

      Please google MAINCORE and ATnT HANCOCK programming language..

    77. Franklin Coverup Says:

      Obama is human feces.Track that,NSA,I dare ya.Human garbage Obama is,just as Bush was,the other Bilderberg buttboy.Jeff Gannon can probably confirm that Bush is an ACTUAL buttboy ..and Larry Franklin can verify that Obama is one ,too .Google larry franklin and jeff gannon for details,but I assume that most on this site remember those names.

      Lex Pakistan Reply:

      Buttboy- yup, you got it. They had to take it in the hind end by a high level mason to be president, its part of the initiation.

    78. Just Some Dude Says:

      They had a second team move in and bug the van that they came from. No in all seriousness I seen a program once. It said that the East German Secret Police had 40% of the east Germany’s citizens on the pay roll of the East German Secret Police. So a spies spying on spies spying on spies.

    79. Boris Playboy Says:

      Не жалею, что потратил пару минут на просмотр поста. Публикуйтесь почаще, еще непременно зайду посмотреть что-нибудь новенькое!