SPIEGEL: Mr. Jefferson, the world is living in fear of swine flu. And some predict that, by next winter, one-third of the world’s population might be infected. Are you personally worried? Are you and your family taking any precautions?
Tom Jefferson: I wash my hands very often — and it’s not all because of swine flu. That’s probably the most effective precaution there is against all respiratory viruses, and the majority of gastrointestinal viruses and germs as well.
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July 30th, 2009 at 11:48 am
The US’s never ending global war on terror is based on a lie. There were no commercial planes on 9-11. No planes,,,,,no highjackers! The US if left unchecked will murder over ONE BILLION PEOPLE. The war is never ending. So far the US has killed 4-8 million people without even a blink! It’s global and only the US military and criminal political leadership can determine if and when it will EVER end. It includes ALL US citizens as well.
i agree Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Look at what the never ending global war on evil has done? How many people has that killed? I am starting to understand the importance of what the fact that the US government may have staged those planes on 9/11 means. It has allowed them to kill so many with no resistance from any country in the world.
Luke Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
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Patriot Portal Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
The fearmongering is propaganda to get people to take the shot.
Read the actual US patent issued to Baxter on August 2008 for the vaccine for the yet undiscovered flu that didn’t surface until April 2009 in Mexico.
It’s on my website. Click on my user name to read it.
Itch Relief Reply:
July 31st, 2009 at 12:56 am
Tamiflu vacines causes side effects in children in the UK.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t.....ltn=CBIC5B
SWINE FLU HYPE FROM THE 70's Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
I just found this crazy swine flu corporate propaganda video from over 30 years ago.
They scared people to death over no deaths or even confirmed swine flu cases, then gave them a vaccine which was not tested for safety (they tested another one, but gave most people a different untested vaccine). 46 million people took the shot.
Wake up America, this was done before. Will you take their “medicine” as well?
And now that we’ve had 30 years more worth of biological warfare research, you can be assured that the viruses this time will be even more to their pleasing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASibLqwVbsk
Lets make this video “VIRAL”
FreedomLover Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 11:56 am
This fearmongering is going to backfire on them. Panic, panic, panic, and soon people will quit listening because none of their predictions are coming true.
Pffft, I refuse to listen any longer and I’m going to live my life without panic. They can take their threats and shove it.
Chilled Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Why aren’t more doctors coming forth and telling these assholes to shut up about this fake flu? Thousands of years human have walked the earth and survived worse than this is horrible conditions and this is what they come up with? Cavemen walking around pissing/s---ting on themselves and walking around in it all day long and didn’t even know how to wash their hands or why… and we’re still here!!
Our immune system has evolved so much that it’s even a wonder how any of us get sick. Pair that with antibiotics, cleaners, fresh running water, sewer systems..etc. This is the best way they thought they could trick us into being killed in mass quantities?! They tell us that 19-24 yr olds are the quickest to get it for “some reason”. Maybe that’s because 19-24 yr olds are still in college, young/dum/fulla cum and in close quarters most of the time. They want to shoot them up 1st. I guess these liars forgot that they’ve been telling us that ONLY people with “underlying conditions” have died from it. So which is it? I guess these f---ers need to become as smart at lying as they THINK we are stupid. Only a complete idiot can’t see this is a set up. And WTF is wrong with our boys in the military taking orders that go against the citizens they were sworn in to protect????!!
I hate to say it but we already lost this battle (from lack of planning). We’re just waiting to see who fires the first “shot”.
Gary Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Sleight of hand. Distract the viewer’s attention. You are focused on the disease. The real danger is the vaccine.
Malecon Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Right Gary. I hope folks noted your comment.
FreedomLover Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Whoa, buddy. Take it easy on the military. Believe it or not, most of them are still asleep. They join for different reasons (a job, true patriotism, to be somebody) and they are told that the enemy is “out there”, the Taliban and other extremists, and that they are fighting to protect our homeland from foreign terrorists. When you are 18 or so, you don’t question much. I was regular Army and I still remember being in that situation. They’re taken from home, most of them, knowing only Mom & Dad, school, maybe a part-time job, and thrust into a totally alien environment where a drill sergeant owns your butt. It’s go, go, go, little sleep and total indoctrination. You have to trust your leaders, because what other choice do you have?
Maybe if we all step back, take a deep breath and think about being in the other person’s shoes, we might just hesitate before calling someone a dumbass.
Gary Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
You’ve described my Air Force basic training experience (Vietnam Era) precisely. When I reached my permanent duty station in California, I then had to put up with long-haired hippies calling me a “baby killer” whenever I’d go off base. I was never in Vietnam and my job was processing film in a photo lab. I’d go home on leave and people would me what kind of plane I flew, as if everyone in the Air Force is a pilot. The American public is terribly ignorant of their own country’s military, and that is even more the case today than it was then. Until about twenty years ago, most men over the age of 18 either had served or were serving in the military. Today, there are far fewer men who have had that experience and fewer still who have been in combat.
Chilled Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Freedom idot: Do you think that every person who comes here is a man? Anyway.. you f---ing moron.. I didn’t call ANYONE a dumbass (besides you, right now). I’ve seen your posts before and you are one of the biggest assholes on here. Get a f---ing life.
I’m a 39 yr old woman who was once in the Airforce and it take getting past sworn in for me to wake up to the BS (I was 19). By the time you’re 18 you ought to have enough sense in your skull to know what’s up. Don’t use age as an excuse. And shut the f--- up while your at it, prick!
FreedomLover Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
No, I don’t think everyone who comes here is a man, yet you’re assuming…… You talk like a sailor, though, and you are full of anger. Against who? Who degraded you to such an extent that you have to attack someone because they pushed a button you don’t like? And if you’re not a patriot, why DID you join the air force? And why are you posting here? You can’t fault a person for having ideals, and some soldiers even in these present evil days still believe they are fighting for a great country. How could they believe otherwise when all the indoctrination going on in the public schools is designed to brainwash them? The young soldiers I know who have just gone off to basic are wet behind the ears. Not everyone has or had the same circumstances you did. The only thing I was asking for was a little more compassion for those who are still unaware of what our “beloved” government is really up to. Can you understand that?
justwondering Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
That is why they want them so young; their minds are easily manipulated.
DavidVSgoliath Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
IT’S ALL A LIE!
The truth is bullet proof, LITERALLY! – In a hundred, or thousands of years from now, people will either celebrate how people did the obviously right thing; to look into the world they live in, and to be proud of ourselves for realizing that it’s more negative to ignore & deny, than to be informed of the reality of the situation, which SEEMS negative.
OR…
In the future, if we continue with business as usual, our greatest regret will be to have not taken action.
There is no fulfillment or satisfaction in engaging in distractions!
Liz Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
I wish the ‘no commercial jets on 9-11′ statements would cease,
for a very good reason :
It does not make any difference whether the planes were planes or drones or pictures.
The source, the problem, the outcome is still the same.
And it’s just one step in the lunatic direction that makes most non conspiracy believers roll their eyes,
so why push them in that direction ?
DavidVSgoliath Reply:
July 31st, 2009 at 6:48 am
That’s why the gov operative engaging in internet warfare is doing it, but the $ that person is being paid will be completely worthless, due to the system they support, and im literally going to puke now…
cluelessfred Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
Deadly VACCINE INFO show this to your idiot friends and family http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page
July 30th, 2009 at 11:48 am
White people are going to enslave white people – hahahahahahaha – this is some funny s---!!
The hateful racist white people thought they they weren’t slaves and were free – you fools are fools!!!
White people are building Satan’s kingdom!!!!
White Satanic Disorder!!
Obama is a white demon!!!
hhh Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 11:50 am
White people are going to kill ya!!
yellowhak1 Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
your really getting to much enjoyment out of this. i take it your a minority, 12 yrs old, or paid to say this rediculous crap. hence my name above its native american and missing the letter w.
Mr Ventura Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
“hggs been fudgin, he’s been fudgin’ since day 1 in this election”
Gary Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Well, finally you admit that whites are going to be victims of all this, too. Thank you for finally saying something truthful.
DavidVSgoliath Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
MAN! He’s puppet, the ‘demon’ are the bloodlines & where they came from… down the rabbit hole we go
July 30th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Don’t give in to fear. Fear will make people line up for the “lethal injections”. Take control of your own health by getting proper nutrition, enough sleep and de-stressing. Stress causes more susceptibility to disease than any other factor.
loki Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
i agree, to bad most dont know much less even believe. i tell my wife that
Gary Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Correct. The real threat here is the forced vaccinations, not the flu.
roaddog Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
freedom—thank you for leaving religion out of your last post. You sound a lot more intelligent when you do. And look, herd members agree with you when you do. Good job.
FreedomLover Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Sorry, road.
For me to live is Christ, and to die is gain. I’m on my way to heaven. This is who I am, who He has made me. You don’t have to throw your brains in the trash can to believe in Jesus. I can’t say I understand everything completely, but I have assurance not simply based on pure faith. I’ve had too many prayers answered and too many miracles to think it’s just coincidence.
And being a Christian is not mutually exclusive with being a patriot. I am both, and passionate about allowing other people to live without government’s interference.
Those who don’t know Christ, the Bible says that the cross is foolishness to them. So no wonder I sound like a fool! I must be doing something right.
Malecon Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
You keep a good balance around here. Keep it up. Thnx
July 30th, 2009 at 11:59 am
enslave anyone that lets them, here in the ussa anyways
July 30th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
The new world order must be stopped or we could face this…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkcFui9r8bk
July 30th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
White devils have killed hundreds of millions – now thet are going to kill billions!!
Demons from hell!!
White people’s war OF terror against humanity!!
Not all white people are terrorists BUT all terrorists are white!!!
zeefrog Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
you must be non white to make such ignorant comments……
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE YOU DUMMY…………!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr Ventura Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
“hhhs been fudgin, he’s been fudgin’ since day 1 in this election”
hadenough Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
For heavens sake “hhh” why don’t you get off of the Attention Deficeit Disorder medicine. Now go find your mother, tell her you are sorry, and that this time you really will get a job this time and move out. Next, go down into the basement and clean up your filthy bedroom, and for the love of god, take a freaking shower and wash your mouth out with soap.
Hillbilly Patriot Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Shut the f--- up you stupid cocksucker! Iam sick and tired of your racist remarks jerkofff! If ya dont have anything better to say , than get the f--- off this site!!!!! Man, i hate retards like this, thats exactly why this country has went to s---s, because to many goddamned idiots like this fool want to cause seperate problems! unf---ingbelievable!
July 30th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
hey folks go to http://freemanradio.com/ and take the poll
July 30th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
I don’t know about the rest of the world , but here in France , noone has been in panic since the break out of this virus ,until now. Most people that I know are not afraid and don’t beleive in this virus as deadly as they say. And now I even hear some saying even the fnacial crisis is a door designed to take us to world bank!
BTW if you visit France NOW, in this month you’d be suprised, just like every year starting from july 15th all the way to end of August people stop working and take their 15 to 1 month summer vacation ,paris and subburbs are empty..people are on vaction. This flu scaring tactic hasn’t changed French life style. I havent seen one french wearing mask so far! It takes more than a virus to scare French !
Gary Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Well, I’ve got news for you. Most of us here are not panicked over it, either, and a lot of us see through the whole thing and see it for what it really is. It’s the vaccine that will be the real killer, not the virus.
If you came over here right now, especially to Oklahoma City, you’d swear there was nothing bad happening at all. Life is going on as usual. That doesn’t mean there is nothing to worry about. It simply means the majority of the population are unaware of what is happening.
July 30th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
That was a fine article, nice to have an expert tell everyone to calm down.
You can bet the vaccine will be much more deadly, just like 1976
Gary Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Far worse than 1976, actually.
Malecon Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Yep.
July 30th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
ANYONE?? KNOW THE LINK DR TENPENNY SAID TO GO TO? I CAN’T FIND IT, PLEASE….
Gary Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
You mean this?
http://drtenpenny.com/default.aspx
July 30th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
WRONG!!
We are not afraid of the swine flu.
We are afraid of our government calling for mandatory vaccinations against our will.
Good try to pretend to be trying to be against the fear mongering when you are the cause.
July 30th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
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buddah Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
read above post
July 30th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Okay…. so there’s a little fear mongering going on … but, just think of the PROFITS FOR THE DRUG COMPANIES … and the STOCK OPTIONS … I’ll be the first in line for the Swine Flu shots; I’m gonna do my duty to support DRUG COMPANY PROFITS! … and THAT’S A SLAM DUNK!
July 30th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Washing hands more often is a good idea , but carrying a little sprayer with water and a drop of
herbal antiseptic soap is better , because , how it works , is that it all depends on what and when you touch something contaminated !!!
That’s why you’re supposed to touch clean things with your right hand , and dirty things with your
left hand , and then , you pull out your low down sprayer with your right hand , and give your left
a swish !!!
Actually , ” washing your hands in a bathroom could be dangerous , because it implies touching
discusting taps n’ door handles !!!
And while we’re at it , wash your asses too !!!
hadenough Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
SOLUTIONS ONLY? Big 10-4
Proper Handwashing Bathroom Procedure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYb7Jh5cglQ
P.S I would have never touched the paper towel lever with newly washed fingers
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
That’s getting closer to the target , but that lil trick I talk about ( the left hand / right hand
switch and the tiny sprayer with even just water , but preferably a drop of herbal soap )
is the most practical / handy / failsafe method !!!
July 30th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14Q7V5vhOwE
July 30th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Ive read countless articles from well qualified professionals like this one, over the years (medical and science periodicals), and even was taught some of the same views (as the interviewee) concerning viruses in classes like biology and zoology in college a few years ago. But people are so brainwashed these days, they dismiss common sense !
Its disturbing.
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
I , for one , cannot begin to fathom how retarted the average sheeple are !!!
You just have to watch the horrid lack of basic hygiene to start gathering that the situation
is close to hopeless !!! ( and I say ” close ” because I don’t want to seem too negative !!! )
P.S. No wonder the NWO is having a ball !!!
July 30th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
dont let the reptilian nwo kill you. DONT GET ANY VACCINATIONS EVER!!!!!
there desperately trying to cull humanity before 2012, dont be a sucker, dont be a sheep…
Resist or Serve
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July 30th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
You have no idea what the New World Order Secret is that’s coming…
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July 31st, 2009 at 1:18 am
You have no idea what the New World Order Agenda is that’s coming…
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July 31st, 2009 at 4:43 am
As if big pharma and their friends in the media would ever do something so callous. Really some people are so cynical…… http://www.openyoureyesnews.co.....aceuticals
July 31st, 2009 at 1:05 pm
the military helping out with the vaccination is just another way O is implementing a “chavez” society on us. Chavez has soldiers living and working right along side all the communities in his country.
We must resist. Call your senators and representatives daily and tell them to start fighting for our constitutional rights. Also, prepare yourself and your family for any emergency.
PrivateSi Reply:
August 2nd, 2009 at 12:19 pm
I personally agree with what you are saying but for balance sake will say the government can use the growing militancy of the anti-vaxers as a pretext to ‘protect those administering vaccines’. I bet physically/legally enforced vaccination will not happen (for a few years at least) unless some real DEADLY BIO-ATTACK happens. Of course, this acts as perfect TRAINING for such an attack. The attack is could be FALSE FLAG but I still think you should be a little cautious about RUSSIA and possibly even China also…
July 31st, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Forced vaccines means shoot to kill the killers.
August 2nd, 2009 at 5:10 am
Don’t take the vaccine but do use anti-septic soaps. You can easily carry this around in a soap box and a small micro-fibre towel to dry your hands with. (Don’t use anyone else’s towels or touch paper towel dispensers).
One of the main reasons flu is seasonal is because of the lack of body exposure to sunlight. This produces Vitamin D. In temperate northern climates the daylight hours half from their summer peaks solstice to solstice (21st June to 21st December). Also people have to wear warmer clothes further reducing sunlight skin contact. The obvious prevention would be to take vitamin D supplements. Take a range of other vitamin supplements to flank the D and you have an effective measure.
Personally I think that there’s going to be a serious financial problem this fall that will lead to insurrection. Falsifying a pandemic would be one of a range of measures to prevent people from meeting up and mobilizing into groups. Store food hygiene products and a water filter. They may stop people who haven’t had a shot from entering a super market or other public place. If you can store food they can’t use this form of compellence on you.
Don’t ever take a vaccine and stay alert to different types of compellence they will try and use. (children expelled from schools, house arrest/quarantine and preventing you from obtaining food).
August 2nd, 2009 at 12:01 pm
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August 2nd, 2009 at 12:14 pm
A sensible article that flies in the face of current corporo/fascism tactics used by most governments and media channels..
August 2nd, 2009 at 7:04 pm
be prepared to file injunctions in your State Court against HHS Secretary Kathleen Sibelius for the genocidal and fraudulent act of enacting a mandatory toxic vaccination program on all Americans. learn about the rules of court by joining your jurisdictionary chapter http://www.jurisdictionary.com – and whatever happens DO NOT take the shot. likely to contain MF-59 with toxic squalene and GP-120, mercury, mycoplasmids and RNA of other live viruses such as rabies, insect larvae, and other unknown and untested toxins. some batches projected to be “hot” batches that will be assigned according to social security number, projected to contain live weaponized virus and highly reactive adjuvants.
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:59 pm
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