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Erica Jong: Obama Loss ‘Will Spark the Second American Civil War. Blood Will Run in the Streets’
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Jason Horowitz
The New York Observer
October 31, 2008
It seems that the final days of the presidential campaign have made Erica Jong and her friends more than a little anxious.
A few days ago, Jong, the author and self-described feminist, gave an interview to the Italian daily Corriere della Sera, the choicest bits of which were brought to my attention by the reliably sharp-eyed Christian Rocca, the U.S. correspondent of Il Foglio, who published excerpts on his Camillo blog. Basically, Jong says her fear that Obama might lose the election has developed into an "obsession. A paralyzing terror. An anxious fever that keeps you awake at night." She also says that her friends Jane Fonda and Naomi Wolf are extremely worried that Obama will be sabotaged by Republican dirty tricks, and that if an Obama loss indeed comes to pass, the result will be a second American Civil War.
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Here’s a translation of Jong’s more spirited quotes to the Milan-based Corriere, as selected by Rocca.
"The record shows that voting machines in America are rigged."
"My friends Ken Follett and Susan Cheever are extremely worried. Naomi Wolf calls me every day. Yesterday, Jane Fonda sent me an email to tell me that she cried all night and can’t cure her ailing back for all the stress that has reduces her to a bundle of nerves."
"My back is also suffering from spasms, so much so that I had to see an acupuncturist and get prescriptions for Valium."
"After having stolen the last two elections, the Republican Mafia…"
"If Obama loses it will spark the second American Civil War. Blood will run in the streets, believe me. And it’s not a coincidence that President Bush recalled soldiers from Iraq for Dick Cheney to lead against American citizens in the streets."
"Bush has transformed America into a police state, from torture to the imprisonment of reporters, to the Patriot Act."
She also laments that not all of America’s men of letters share her devotion to Obama.
"Tom Wolfe and John Updike are men of the right and Philip Roth is at this point a hermit who leads a monastic life in Connecticut, far from everything and everybody."
Luckily, she said there is her and Michael Chabon, who, she says, have "taken the place of Susan Sontag and Norman Mailer respectively."
They have the same political sensibilities, she said, but a better "sense of humor."
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October 31st, 2008 at 6:18 pm
I read this article yesterday and it sounded as crazy as the first time i read it. But who knows.
October 31st, 2008 at 6:26 pm
She makes good points, but if McCain became president, then it will just be a quicker bend us over and give it to us.
October 31st, 2008 at 6:33 pm
I like extra butter on my popcorn too……..
October 31st, 2008 at 6:37 pm
The presidential elections are rigged, it is old news. We know from the 2000 election Al gore was
couldn’t do anything about it. Have you seen the movie “Recount” Gores supporters tried to take it th the Supreme Court but the elite backed bush and said no to recounts. It’s all a fraud. It doesn’t matter who you vote for even if the majority number of votes leans towards the citizen’s vote on a president. They are “SELECTED” not elected!
October 31st, 2008 at 6:38 pm
It doesn’t matter who wins the election, since after all it is not truly an election. The outcome has been predetirmend and the elite will have their puppet. What concerns me are the portable prisons in Utah, the hundreds of thousands of plastic coffins in Georgia, the FEMA camps all over the nation, the end of Posse Cometatus and other such things. People, do not be so concerned about the election, it is out of our hands. Be only concerned with that which is in your control. Your faith, your family, and how prepared you are for what is to come. I do not believe that this will end peacefully. I think a great dark challenge is before us, and it will be a measure of time before we see any real light again.
October 31st, 2008 at 6:41 pm
Go ahead, threaten us with more Marxist crap and violence. It’ll just prove how despicable your top ticket really is. I do not see Chuck Baldwin’s group make such a claim.
October 31st, 2008 at 6:59 pm
Sucks to be disappointed in the greatest country in the world and the men who lead it….I like to believe that America once stood for something! FREEDOM, FREE ENTERPRISE, the pursuit of happiness and the right to live a great life! If “they” could engineer 911 then I am pretty sure 8 years later “they” can do even more horrific things to put the country under more control! im out
October 31st, 2008 at 7:08 pm
This was said on a couple articles. Well, that and some believe it would happen if the “Black Messiah” as it was stated doesn’t make president.
Well firstly, Barack Hussain Obama is not black. He might be partially black, but he is not black. In the dog breeders world he would be considered a mutt. So if race is the card that is being played, all I can say is why don’t you try putting a real black guy in office.
Secondly, this whole messiah statement. Obama is most definitely not a Messenger of Yah.
These people have seriously lost their minds.
October 31st, 2008 at 7:26 pm
those are nice shiny handcuffs can i use them …..
October 31st, 2008 at 7:29 pm
this is why we have a secound amendment
October 31st, 2008 at 7:30 pm
#5 – you are right. this election is turning into a dramatic show. obama is no better than mccain, only a better liar.
but if mccain wins i could see riots starting. have you all seen the latest polls? obama is running away with this race. i can’t see how mccain could win.
October 31st, 2008 at 7:31 pm
Captain, you said it best.
I’m only 20 and I know for a fact that we will see some serious changes on the face of this country, nevermind Earth in our years to come.
Think about it: the Elite can track everything we do, find and invent loopholes in the pieces of the justice system and kill us without question. I foresee some reeeeeeally dark things soon, I don’t care. Am I a doomsdayer, hellbent on seeing some carnage and a river of blood spilled on behalf of power? Never, but it’s becoming increasingly obvious that we have reached the peak of technology and the apex of greed.
The Elite will now try to capitalize as fast as possible in every way without shame now, and all in the name of “homeland security” and “combating terrorism”.
Like I said, I’m fairly young and naive but the things in the shadows wearing tuxedos and driving cars that cost more than where I will will sink their vampiristic teeth into us a little too far, whether it’s an unavoidable person on person countrywide melee or perhaps the draining of our piggy banks.
Fear nothing, this is all out of your hands. Go down with a fight because the things that are in your hands are life and freedom, and they will never pry that from the living who will stand against unfathomable odds.
October 31st, 2008 at 7:34 pm
At one time I admired these people. Jane Fonda, ex wife of Ted Turner, Erica Jong Feminist. Yes I am sure they are concerned but really who are these people. From my point of view just tools or puppets for the illumati. Perhaps they think they are doing right (I hope) and they have a right to their opionion but hopefully we are smart enough to have own and will stop looking at celebrity as something to admire when in fact it is just another tool of the illumati. A very powerful one to boot. Why is Obama is such high regard with so many people??? He is a celebrity and nothing more. A very good actor.
October 31st, 2008 at 7:34 pm
yes. vero.
October 31st, 2008 at 7:39 pm
I find it interesting that she fears a second civil war…does she regret the outcome of the first one?
October 31st, 2008 at 7:41 pm
So,What she is basically saying is: If Obama loses the minorities killing off of the White race will finally stop being hidden by the media? Anyone ever hear of Shannon Christian or Chris Newsom?
October 31st, 2008 at 7:42 pm
what better way to declare martial law then to strip the election from a black guy knowing the technicalities it would cause. I just think that the elite have far better plans for him once in office other than pulling his “votes”
October 31st, 2008 at 7:46 pm
If the elections were completely rigged and hopeless, then Hillary Clinton would be the democratic nominee. Our votes count. Even Alex Jones says to vote. Obama was an upset of the expected outcome. Just as Jesse Ventura was an upset of the expected outcome. Everyone needs to vote this election. Send a message to the Republican incumbents. Vote Obama. Vote McKinney. Vote Baldwin.. But vote for someone besides John McCain and the Republican machine.
Peace.
October 31st, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Honestly, I think whoever wins this election there’s going to be unrest as a result… Think about how fervent people are over these two candidates. This election has divided people across so many lines.
October 31st, 2008 at 7:57 pm
This is for all those in control of this government FYI; this is how your END will come. Mark These Words Because They Will Soon Come True: Jehovah God sovereign of the universe will force you to attack His peaceful Witnesses and as soon as you begin your attack He will protect them with His (unseen to human eyes) angles at which time these very angles will kill everyone that does not loyal serve Him. So hurry all you Government Rulers and attack “Jehovah’s Witnesses” so we can get this all over with and move on to a time without evil…. Has anyone noticed that Jehovah’s Witnesses are the only non-political, non-governmental, non-war killing, peaceful, completely neutral in human affairs; they don’t celebrate any of the holidays of pagan origin, (Yes, do the research the Holidays are all of pagan origin!!!) the only actual religion that follows the word of Jehovah just as Jesus stated they would!!! Has anyone noticed that around the world these Jehovah’s Witnesses are protected by un-seen forces while engaged in their witnessing work about Jehovah God? (i.e. preaching from door to door) These are undisputable FACTS so hurry and make your choice while you still can!!! Only the meek will inherit the earth…
October 31st, 2008 at 8:02 pm
Well I’ll tell ya, boys…
I know plenty of African Americans personally. They bless this old ridge-runner’s
life and I’d take a bullet for many of ‘em. Skin color never mattered much to me
because cut us and we all bleed red.
Typical these closet supremacists are panicky over an Obama loss. They actually
believe black Americans are what the NeoNazis have them stereotyped to be.
African Americans have a deep soul that surely must have been born out of all
their adversity. But they are also smarter than the liberal plantation-minders
realize.
Black Americans know how important they are to this nation. They built it back
in slave days alongside poor white crackers who were slaves themselves.
We’re gonna give our African American blood-brothers more credit than that.
If anything happens to Mr. Obama, (God forbid!) there are lots of white folk
who will be angry as hell too. But we know who the real enemy is and it’s not
white or black,
IT’S NAZI!
October 31st, 2008 at 8:04 pm
All you whites out there better pray Obama wins(he won’t).If not, there’s gonna be a lot of unintelligent blacks roaming the streets just lookin’ to fuck up whitey. And when they come for you, you WILL be outgunned. The white race is so ineffective that your own women have no interest in you anymore, because you can’t defend them!! They look to the darker folks now…how that must hurt. Time to knuckle up or flee back to Europe!!!
October 31st, 2008 at 8:04 pm
#20 said “If the elections were completely rigged and hopeless, then Hillary Clinton would be the democratic nominee.”
You’re joking, right?
So I assume you think that Delegates and Superdelegates are the “People” voting correct?
Ah you sheep… its no wonder your country is screwed. Dumbass Americans believing their system is not corrupt… go eat more toothpaste please.
October 31st, 2008 at 8:08 pm
After the presidential elections are over , California must secede from this failed union
October 31st, 2008 at 8:13 pm
I agree that this Civil war “could” end up happening, but of course that would only happen “if” Americans can motivate themselves to get up off their duffs, quit staring at the Xbox or Sports channel… so calculating the chances here… (tappity tap…)
Ooo…
Doesn’t look good for the rebellion… hopeless even… well perhaps maybe with a freak chance of all the Xbox’s blowing up and all the Pro Athletes go on strike at the same time…
October 31st, 2008 at 8:13 pm
All one has to do is plant an idea in some people’s minds and they are off and running. The power of suggestion is very strong.
October 31st, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Jane Fonda deserves every minute of agony she gets . I know most of you are to young to remember what she did to our soldiers in Vietnam . For those who don’t know she was handed social security numbers on a small piece of paper by our P.O.W ’s . They only wanted to let their families know that they were alive . She gave them to the North Vietnamese and the P.O.W.’s were tortured for this . Not to mention the propaganda that she went along with , which helped to demoralize our troops . All of this was done by a Hollywood brat who thought she was much smarter and moral than those who were FORCED to serve .
We all know that the war was like the Iraq war . All about money and political manipulation but , her actions affected the ground soldiers . Not the war criminals in power . So , Jane twist until your head touches your ass , I DON’T GIVE A DAMN !
October 31st, 2008 at 8:22 pm
And he’s different from McCain how? They must be desperate to escalate martial law.
October 31st, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Here is the best site I’ve seen for Election Fraud coverage.
http://www.BradBlog.com
He has been on the topic for quite some time and is friendly to the 9/11 Truth movement as well.
October 31st, 2008 at 8:24 pm
fuck, then i;m purposely going to vote for mcinsane.
October 31st, 2008 at 8:24 pm
You know things are messed up when Jane Fonda is expecting a civil war in the US.
Well, there you have it NWO, you have officially ruined the USA, i hope you’re proud of yourselves.
I remember 1998 in the US compared to the present US it’s like it is not even the same country.
How could you take a peacful, fairly stable country and in the span of about 10 years take it to the brink of civil war.
The Historians will be studyng the events that led up to the Second American Civil War for centuries to come.
There’s light at the end of the tunnel,
AS ALWAYS,
13*
October 31st, 2008 at 8:27 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a31D0c9Tk8
October 31st, 2008 at 8:27 pm
I really don’t think that there will be civil war if Obama loses. Yes there maybe some people that get angry and riot like what happened in L.A. at the time of the Rodney King beating, but not a civil war. The civil war will come when Obama as President tries to take everyones guns away.
October 31st, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Keep in mind Jane Fonda’s husband Ted Turner is a global elitist.
October 31st, 2008 at 8:34 pm
#30 My uncle told me the story. He can’t stand her; he calls her a TRAITOR and alot more. Her husband Ted Turner is a global elitist.
October 31st, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Will there be some type of civil unrest? No. I believe that as Americans, we are civilized, mature, and wise enough to look beyond the outcome of this election and respond with the best interests of other people in mind before our own. We, as Americans, must live out an example in front of the World which displays our common-sense, intelligence, love/respect for life, and wisdom.
This concept come from 2-sources: the Bible and the Treaty of Westphalia. The Bible teaches people to ‘do unto others as they wish others do to them’ and to love/respect other people first. Plainly spoken ‘Put Other People FIRST’. Then the Treaty of Westphalia teaches the same doctrine: in whatever people do/say to each other ALWAYS put the interests of others FIRST.
Please … I plead with the people of USA to seek peace and diplomacy with each other in the spirit of Bible teaching and the spirit of the Treaty of Westphalia. Please let us all unite and live/work as a team, or a community, for the greater good of our fellow citizens and our society.
PEACE. May God Bless you ALL. Good Day:)
October 31st, 2008 at 8:36 pm
i just don’t know about that Naomi Wolf. she under stands this fascism thing and she thinks Obama is different? she should study Hitler a little closer. Bama’s movement looks closer to Hitler’s than any one else except bush. shes still asleep if she can’t see that. how can she think this any thing to do with what political (left or right) party they belong to. its purely corporate.
October 31st, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Hey Pete,
A California-less U.S. doesn’t sound half bad. We could almost scrap the revolution and shout for joy in the streets.
October 31st, 2008 at 8:39 pm
#24, crackattack (that name says alot) you are fucking stupid. Outgunned my ass.
October 31st, 2008 at 8:54 pm
See how important it is for Obama to win. If Obama wins, millions will discover that there is no difference between one and the other. If McCain wins, they’d keep on believing they missed the Obama opportunity. Let them know what Obama tastes like. Then there can be revolution.
October 31st, 2008 at 9:26 pm
The streets will flow with the blood of the non-believers!
My bunghole has spoken!
October 31st, 2008 at 9:46 pm
>After the presidential elections are over , California must secede from this failed union
>Hey Pete,
>A California-less U.S. doesn’t sound half bad. We could almost scrap the revolution and shout >for joy in the streets.
After we secede, can we have the Constitution and will you take all our Celebrities and Hollywood.
October 31st, 2008 at 9:50 pm
McCain’s going to win. Liberals are the biggest pussies in the world. They’ll just whine on CNN then crawl back into their tenured professorships and shut the fuck up
October 31st, 2008 at 9:51 pm
If Obama wins and the McCain folks start a fight, they’re going to bring the war to Hollywood. LA is the ultimate enemy of the average McCain supporter
October 31st, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Who gives a shit, I mean really. It doesn’t matter, it’s all for show. Why are you people buying into the BS.
October 31st, 2008 at 10:02 pm
THEY have to realize that we can beat an army. We the people, all of us, are a huge army, even with the people who want to be slaves out of the conflict.
Hard time in Iraq! What do they think will happen here? Every household should be armed. Americans are at their best when attacked. They have got to know that. If our gov attacks the people, I predict we could have a full replacement government installed in short order, until another elections can be arranged. 1 million people could take DC. Many military & law enforcement personnel will be for the constitution.
That is my thoughts.
October 31st, 2008 at 10:06 pm
I personaly think that obama is not as popular as the news makes him out to be..most people i talk to cant stand either of the 2 jokers..news already has obama in the white house..
we are being set up by the media and whoever wants to devide and destroy whats left of our country
October 31st, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Nope there will be no riots. the increase in msg consumption and fluorodation combined with the vitamins getting radiated out of food means people are extremely lazy and dont care. there will be no riots. people will still sit on their butts going “oh well” whatever grand plan they have to get race wars going will fail. People will will just sigh at mccain taking the helm. they just dont care anymore
October 31st, 2008 at 10:30 pm
So like, the last two elections weren’t fair? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEj5Rg6cxxI
October 31st, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Is that a THREAT?There are maybe 12 Black people in this state.Now if a bunch of people want to keep laying the FEAR of BLACK UPRISING on this Crap then Let them. Sounds like some reverse racist Bullshit. That’s right I said it. “REVERSE RACIST BULLSHIT” I vote by merit not by popularity and skin color. “If Chuck Baldwin Loses the election the streets will run red with Aithiest BLOOD! OH NOOOOOOOOoo! ” STFU with that crap.You want to come take a shot at me for nothing then you’ll die for nothing. Nuff said.That goes for ALL parties in the Gov. and thier Whacked out voters. Go buy another Spicegirls CD and get out of My face!Everytime someone mentions McAin or Obama they are advertising them and thier fear stenched Propaganda. Just say “Those two S98tbags are up to THIS or THAT.” Don’t Overtly SPONSOR thier Fame.GOD people have lost thier Spine and need to grow a pair.It’s not Blacks I worry about it’s BLACK WATER.If Obama or McAin win there will be a Huge war and you won’t have a choice. Fate will decide where or not a Russian or Chinese Nuke vaporises you.Jane Fonda and Naomi Wolf said Blah Blah. How’s this for a real Movie “No Country for Pu55ies”? This whole article is Irrelavent crap meant to SCARE people into VOTING for the Black Guy.Now I’m not Racist. So Take that crap somewhere where heads echo hollow.
October 31st, 2008 at 10:36 pm
“There’s blood in the streets, it’s up to my ankles
She came
There’s blood on the streets, it’s up to my knee
She came
Blood on the streets in the town of Chicago
She came
Blood on the rise, it’s following me
Think about the break of day
She came and then she drove away
Sunlight in her hair
She came
Blood in the streets runs a river of sadness
She came
Blood in the streets it’s up to my thigh
She came
Yeah the river runs down the legs of the city
She came
The women are crying red rivers of weepin’
She came into town and then she drove away
Sunlight in her hair
Indians scattered on dawns highway bleeding
Ghosts crowd the young child’s fragile eggshell mind
Blood in the streets in the town of New Haven
Blood stains the roofs and the palm trees of Venice
Blood in my love in the terrible summer
Bloody red sun of phantastic l.a.
Blood streams her brain as they chop off her fingers
Blood will be born in the birth of a nation
Blood is the rose of mysterious union
There’s blood in the streets, it’s up to my ankles
Blood in the streets, it’s up to my knee
Blood in the streets in the town of Chicago
Blood on the rise, it’s following me”
“Peace Frog”
The Doors
October 31st, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Hey, look, being a black man in this country, I’m no supporter of Obama, but all this hype about rioting in the streets if he loses is a bunch of white/guilt/paranoia to the 10th degree and beyond. The establishment would LOVE for the ignorant citizens of this country to believe that. I have yet to hear so much as a single black person say they would even want to see a riot if Obama loses. We know first-hand how corrupt this government is – we experienced it for over 300 hundred years when whites were taking their now fledging freedoms for granted. When the constitution was written it did not include black slaves or native americans. At that time, to us, yes, the constitution was just a damn piece of paper, thanks to the hypocrisy of white people during that period. Deep down inside the collective unconscious of TOO many white people carries guilt about slavery and subconsciously believes that black people want to get even for the atrocities committed against blacks during that time. Black folks in general (the ones that don’t know better) would be upset if Obama loses, but we will not riot or start a revolution or take revenge on white people or anybody else for that matter ( need I remind you that the revolution in this country against Britain was instigated by white people for a lesser cause than slavery?). We (blacks) fully realize (even the most unaware among us) that Obama isn’t running for the office of the presidency just to lead black people into some fantasy promised land (he won’t lead anybody to that). The road he and his NWO cohorts are paving will guide ALL of us into hell! This country has perpetrated worse sins against black people, that if experienced by white people at the hands of blacks, there would be quite a different set of history books written. Inspite of the injustices, slavery, Jim Crowism, lynchings, segregation, the wanton rape of our women, murder of our children, church-bombings and the destruction of our African heritage and culture and names, etc… WE still fought side-by-side with whites, against their enemies in every major war in which the United States engaged including the revolution (the first man being shot was Crispus Attucks – a black man). WE have proven our commitment and dedication to the principals for which this country stands over and over and over again even when the very same constitution whites now fear losing considered black people as chattel PROPERTY, affording us no other rights as human beings. Get a grip white folks. The reality now is your tasting the tyranny and oppression that black people long ago swallowed and vomited on, and I’m pretty certain, just as in the past, black will fight with you in this war against the common enemy of humanity and when we win, I hope that as a people and race you finally learn to out grow your paranoia, fear and racism (those guilty of it) and truly learn to live in this world without feeling you have to dominate it at the expense of everybody else. Believe you me, if a riot erupts in this country because of the outcome of the election against Obama, it will be a false flag to get us fighting against one another instead of against the real enemy – the NWO/Illuminati.
October 31st, 2008 at 10:49 pm
Fear Mongering for Obama! And if there WERE to be Blood running in
the streets that ONLY says bad things about WHY people were voting for
him!
October 31st, 2008 at 10:56 pm
let the revoultion begin…
that is the only way real change happens.
October 31st, 2008 at 11:16 pm
I am thinking it will be yet another ridiculously close election (rigged of course) where at one point they may even forecast a McCain victory. Then “somehow” Obama will pull it out and the Bush haters that haven’t seen through the fake left-right paradigm will feel like they’ve won something. They will respond by either going back to sleep or following Obama at least part of the way down the fascist path he has been assigned to take us down.
October 31st, 2008 at 11:16 pm
#57 I think alot of people are still just shakin up from the Rodney King riots. We do need to all join up and go after the real enemy. If we could just wake everyone up, if only we could do it somehow. People still get all worked up over elections as if it matters. This Government needs to be purged.
October 31st, 2008 at 11:22 pm
Barack Husein Obama winning the election would be the “last nail in the coffin” with regards with U.S.A.
October 31st, 2008 at 11:24 pm
Hope to see you on the opposite line Erica Jong.. fair well and keep your head down.
“A little rebellion now and then is a good thing . . . .It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government… God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty . . . . and what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned, from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed, from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure. [14]”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shays_Rebellion
October 31st, 2008 at 11:36 pm
What’s funny as pointed out on the Bill Maher show is that Barack Obama has gone to a Christian Church for over 20 years and people think he is a Muslim. In fact almost 25% of Texans believe this. Yet John McCain never goes to Church and people think he epitomizes the Christian man.
WTF.
Help us all resolve this ignorance that is so rampant in our society.
October 31st, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Barack Obama will protect the constitution. He at least understand it. He taught constitutional law at the college level. John McCain doesn’t even understand it and will most likely continue the policies of George W. Bush which ignored or outright disrespects the constitution. People are so easily led astray from reality.
Look at the difference between how our rights were protected at the DNC convention vs. the RNC convention this year. Use the noggin.
October 31st, 2008 at 11:58 pm
Yeay!
November 1st, 2008 at 12:05 am
Both fall at the feet of their master so what difference does it make who wins? Yes, there will be inocent whites being pulled out of their cars and murdered if mccain wins,make no mistake about it. And to the black who thinks that whites have been so cruel to your race are you talking about the last sixty years. Check the fbi stats,blacks rape 38,000 white women per year compared to ten black women being raped by a white. More whites were murdered by blacks in 20 yrs after vietnam than was killed in the war! Blacks comit 95% of all interracial crimes. Blacks commit 85% of all violent crimes,but lets not let the truth get in the way. Blacks have been at war with whites for the last sixty years,and yes you have been ribbbed into this hatred with the help of the media and hollywood but as old abe put it we cannot live in the same country or policical system. We suffer greatly from you as you do from us so separation is the only answer.History lesson,the civil war had nothing to do with slavery and the american revolution was about creating our own money system which the rothchilds could not stand for!
November 1st, 2008 at 12:13 am
We all need to get a grip. People need to stand together. No one is taking me to a gas chamber.
Live free or die.
November 1st, 2008 at 12:18 am
Nothing is going to happen if Obama loses!!! I sick and tired of hearing this sh**!! What yall really are saying is black people are going to riot which is absolutely not true!!! We are not going to riot because we are use to the games yall white folks play!!! I am not even an Obama fan. I am for Cynthia Mckinney. One more thing, yall white folks can blame your own people for the downfall of America and stop blaming Obama. Obama had nothing to do with shipping high-paying jobs to China, or the Federal Reserve Bank, or 911, or the 2 wars, etc… If you white folks want to blame someone for the demise of America then look in the mirror!!!
November 1st, 2008 at 12:21 am
My prediction for the day after the elctions:
Crickets.
and the click of a tv being turned on.
Amerikans won’t do a THING and you know it.
November 1st, 2008 at 12:28 am
#37, they divorced a long time ago
November 1st, 2008 at 12:29 am
Erica Jong”s allusion to Naomi Wolf-
Having heard some of Naomi Wolf’s ideas, I can’t believe she would be naive enough to think Obama is the answer to our country’s crises. I’ll be delighted if he is. However, his Berlin speech showed his true colors to me. His voting records gives me no hope for any sterling character traits or principles.
He consistently votes against the best interest of the people i.e. FISA and Bailout for 2 examples.
I certainly understand the distress of all those who want a change from the corrupt government we now have. Unfortunately, Obama has never said he would undo the damage done by George Bush presidency. I think he’ll just BUILD upon it –in his own style. After all, he believes we need to go after the terrorists. That tells us what kind of presidency he represents–the same as McCain.
Don’t think Erica, or Jane Fonda or Naomi Wolf need to get too upset if their candidate looses.
The only real choice is to throw a curve ball and vote for an independent that is not owned by the
the “gangsters” who control our government.
November 1st, 2008 at 12:32 am
re:#66
Apparently you have never bothered to read Barry Soetoro’s voting history…consistently anti-second amendment.(the second amendment is part of the constitution by-the-way)
http://www.goapvf.org/
Illinois State Rifle Association Executive Director Richard Pearson Issues Open Letter to Nation’s Sportsmen Regarding Obama’s History in the Illinois Senate
CHICAGO, Oct 15, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ — The following is the text of an open letter to the nation’s hunters and sportsmen issued today by Illinois State Rifle Association Executive Director Richard Pearson:
Fellow Sportsman,
Hello, my name is Rich Pearson and I have been active in the firearm rights movement for over 40 years. For the past 15 years, I have served in the Illinois state capitol as the chief lobbyist for the Illinois State Rifle Association.
I lobbied Barack Obama extensively while he was an Illinois State Senator. As a result of that experience, I know Obama’s attitudes toward guns and gun owners better than anyone. The truth be told, in all my years in the Capitol I have never met a legislator who harbors more contempt for the law-abiding firearm owner than does Barack Obama.
Although Obama claims to be an advocate for the 2nd Amendment, his voting record in the Illinois Senate paints a very different picture. While a state senator, Obama voted for a bill that would ban nearly every hunting rifle, shotgun and target rifle owned by Illinois citizens. That same bill would authorize the state police to raid homes of gun owners to forcibly confiscate banned guns. Obama supported a bill that would shut down law-abiding firearm manufacturers including Springfield Armory, Armalite, Rock River Arms and Les Baer. Obama also voted for a bill that would prohibit law-abiding citizens from purchasing more than one gun per month.
Without a doubt, Barack Obama has proven himself to be an enemy of the law abiding firearm owner. At the same time, Obama has proven himself to be a friend to the hardened criminal. While a state senator, Obama voted 4 times against legislation that would allow a homeowner to use a firearm in defense of home and family.
Does Barack Obama still sound to you like a “friend” of the law-abiding gun owner?
And speaking of friends, you can always tell a person by the company they keep. Obama counts among his friends the Rev. Michael Pfleger – a renegade Chicago priest who has openly called for the murder of gun shop owners and pro-gun legislators. Then there is his buddy Richard Daley, the mayor of Chicago who has declared that if it were up to him, nobody would be allowed to own a gun. And let’s not forget Obama’s pal George Soros – the guy who has pumped millions of dollars into the UN’s international effort to disarm law-abiding citizens.
Obama has shown that he is more than willing to use other people’s money to fund his campaign to take your guns away from you. While a board member of the leftist Joyce Foundation, Barack Obama wrote checks for tens of millions of dollars to extremist gun control organizations such as the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence and the Violence Policy Center.
Does Barack Obama still sound to you like a “friend” of the law-abiding gun owner?
By now, I’m sure that many of you have received mailings from an organization called “American Hunters and Shooters Association(AHSA)” talking about what a swell fellow Obama is and how he honors the 2nd Amendment and how you will never have to worry about Obama coming to take your guns. Let me make it perfectly clear – everything the AHSA says about Obama is pure hogwash. The AHSA is headed by a group of left-wing elitists who subscribe to the British view of hunting and shooting. That is, a state of affairs where hunting and shooting are reserved for the wealthy upper-crust who can afford guided hunts on exclusive private reserves. The AHSA is not your friend, never will be.
In closing, I’d like to remind you that I’m a guy who has actually gone nose to nose with Obama on gun rights issues. The Obama I know cannot even begin to identify with this nation’s outdoor traditions. The Obama I know sees you, the law abiding gun owner, as nothing but a low-class lummox who is easily swayed by the flash of a smile and a ration of rosy rhetoric. The Obama I know is a stony-faced liar who has honed his skill at getting what he wants – so long as people are willing to give it to him.
That’s the Barack Obama I know.
November 1st, 2008 at 12:39 am
All this report reeks of is just fear hyping. Nothing more, nothing less, and nothing gained.
November 1st, 2008 at 12:49 am
#70
Nothing is going to happen if Obama loses!!! I sick and tired of hearing this sh**!! What yall really are saying is black people are going to riot which is absolutely not true!!! We are not going to riot because we are use to the games yall white folks play!!! I am not even an Obama fan. I am for Cynthia Mckinney. One more thing, yall white folks can blame your own people for the downfall of America and stop blaming Obama. Obama had nothing to do with shipping high-paying jobs to China, or the Federal Reserve Bank, or 911, or the 2 wars, etc… If you white folks want to blame someone for the demise of America then look in the mirror!!!
re:#70
We surely can’t blame the black man…afterall, look what a raving frickin’ success the contintnt of Africa has been!!!
All that black leadership and you never got above third-world level status.
You must be very proud.
November 1st, 2008 at 12:51 am
If Civil War erupts then the Army will revert to General Order 100.. The Lieber Code in the US..(Which by the way we have pretty much been doing already)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lieber_Code
November 1st, 2008 at 12:53 am
Naomi Wolf is nothing but one one big Liberal asshole along with poor Hanoi Jane who I detest. Who give a shit what these two whores think anyway. Well Alex your always telling everyone you were the first to break this or that, how about a retraction on how nice a woman Naomi is? Are you looking to bang her or something? She’s a fucking dirt bag & you should be ashamed of yourself for having her on your program & lending creditability to her sorry liberal as to a lot of people who are just learning about the NWO & you treating her bullshit so nicely instead of calling her on it.Now you I gave you something you can star crying about on your next show how your being picked on Mr self described Tip of the Spear (says who ? You? ). Suggestion why don’t you try writing a letter without usig the word’s I,Me Or Myself, bet you can’t due Shamus
November 1st, 2008 at 12:53 am
This is just neocon BS! No one is going to “riot”. This is just a sneaky way to stereotype blacks. Disgusting divide-and-conquer tactic.
November 1st, 2008 at 12:57 am
http://www.gunbanobama.com/def.....7d1226f3fa
If we want to protect our 2nd AMENDMENT RIGHTS, this video expresses what Obama wants to do with every Gun Owner in America. Like they say, NEVER trust a Government that wants to take away YOUR RIGHT to keep and Bear Arms. Obama’s One who does. I sure wish Ron Paul was Running for President. Only one who has knowledge of whats going on today.
November 1st, 2008 at 12:59 am
Dear crackattack or was tha porch monkey. Your watching to many late. try & get some sleep instead of sitting around fondling yourself homeBOY. Shamus
November 1st, 2008 at 1:00 am
Perssonally I could care less who gets elected, black, white, green red or yellow as long as they CUT GVT BACK TO THE CONFINES OF THE US CONSTUTION….
It ain’t going to happen. The only people who make change are those onece elected who turn into mini-tyrants with disregard for the people or the Constitution such as GWB has proven to do.
His actions as a President have prven GVT might makes right… And I voted for the idiot the first time.. like I had two choices.. Him or Gore.. Twiddley dumb and twiddly dumber…
I am sick of the lesser of two evils game…. Do we have a decent person in the US who is not CORRUPT that can run for president?
November 1st, 2008 at 1:02 am
R.E. #65,
George Bush went to church enough years to get himself put over as a Christian,
but if all Christians were like him the devil could retire.
Going into a church don’t no more make a man a Christian than going in a garage
makes him a car.
But in Texas they have the phenomenon of preachers, the most mouthy of whom
looks more like a cultured Duroc boar than a human, who tell them they need to
fear,(and let’s get the pronounciation right):
“IS LAM EE OH FASH EE IS UM”, (accent on the second syllable, and just draw it out)
and no black man with a name like Hussein is gonna be able to “fight them thar
rag-head sonsabitches”.
Now of course there’s absolutely no such thing as “IS LAM EE OH… what-you-call-it,
but if the preacher, (whose blood type is Rocky Road and salary is over a million
dollars a year), says it then it must be true, so Obama is the devil now let’s go
to Luby’s and pig out until we can’t walk.
It was probably true to some extent during our Revolution. Alex says 5% participated
and the rest did their own thing through it. People like the Texas turnips, (and there’s
NOTHING wrong with Texas, they gave us Alex, Ron Paul and Texe Marrs, didn’t they?)
will be the majority this time too.
All we ask is that the turnip crowd stay out of the way while the Patriots save their
bacon… yes even Duroc boar bacon. They’ll squeal when they find out the truth later.
November 1st, 2008 at 1:15 am
DT #75 -
WHile I agree with your immediate judgement of “fear hyping”..
A quick study of histiry would reveal many eons of “fear hyping” that evolved into major conflicts.. perhaps not immediately when they were initaited.. but we live in an “instant world” where people no longer are patient and so reserved in emotion. One thing will lead to another if something ever starts. It always has.
Funny thing..It always starts out with the intent of “change for the better of people”….
Start linking to history.. It is not so pretty..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balangiga_Massacre
After you read this.. You may say..”WHat has this to do with me?”.. I submit many others before us missed the point of the message of history until it became “them”….
November 1st, 2008 at 1:21 am
re #76 We surely can’t blame the black man…afterall, look what a raving frickin’ success the contintnt of Africa has been!!!
All that black leadership and you never got above third-world level status.
You must be very proud.
For your info, was does Africa have to do with what I said about America. If we are going to speak truth then lets speak the truth. The truth is that Africa was not in this terrible condition until you Europeans went over there and colonized it. Everywhere you white folks go yall fu** it up!!
November 1st, 2008 at 1:37 am
Just out of curiosity.. Who made Eriica Jong anyone in the who is who of the world. Her face looks like it is decorated with transplants or dried cat assholes…
Let her worry until she figures out something she can actually do in the world that benefits humanity….
November 1st, 2008 at 1:46 am
re:#85
You are like cancer.
Everywhere you go crime, disease and squallor appear.
White folks don’t need you.
In your own country you can’t even get along with eachother!
You want to be exempt from the same rules that you expect everyone else to follow but still be considered equal…well that aint happenin’ bro!
What a lost bunch of misfits you would be without the white man to blame for all your failures.
Maybe you just need a few hundred years more to evolve.
November 1st, 2008 at 1:48 am
#85 This is not about black or white, don’t turn this into a race thing, we are all human beings and deserve the pursuit of happiness, don’t let a few bad apples on this site upset your apple cart. We need to stick together black and white and understand this is principalities (demonic) “Not Men”. We are all slaves to the system, there is no need to play their game and fight amongst eachother. peace bro.
November 1st, 2008 at 1:53 am
First Point: What will an Obama WIN do?
Second Point: What is wrong with this picture? Let’s see if I get this straight. “Bush has transformed america into a police state”. So far so good. ” Then: “If Obama looses it will spark the second American Civil War”. Now, IF America IS Bush’s police state how is it that he will give a f**k if Obama LOOSES?
Somebody’s smokin’ crack and her initials must be Erica Jong.
November 1st, 2008 at 1:54 am
To REALIST:
Reality. 94% of every piece of technology arouund you was invented by som “White European Man”. The big HUGE mistake that europeans have done to africa was to try to transform primitive stone age culture with technology. Such practice is distructive. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Sorry about that.
On the other hand if there is a war between european decendant americans and blacks? Don’t go there. I beg of you. Don’t start anything with us. Join us to fight your real enemy. Fight the elitist trash who are comming for us all. Help us beat them first. If you want to be a dumb primitave savage animal then that is your choice. I would strongly advise against it. Wake up and be a man. You hate people who mean you no harm. Most of us wish you freedom and to be all you can be, but we will not tolerate a fith column who is playing right into the hands of our common enemy. While you are hating and plotting the demise of all europeans the Rothchilds, Rockefellers, Mellons, Ornges, Warburgs, and all the rest of the banksters sit back and laugh. You need to actually pick up a book and read about SPARTACUS. There are reasons why he lost to the Romans. You want to be a nasty saur hearted dumb ass you go ahead. You are in the end hurting yourself and all whom you love, if you are even capable of the emotion. You will in the future have a choice to join in the fight against your oppretion with men who are those same european blood you hate so much who are trying to save us all. Save even your sorry dumb ass. If not you will only die in ingorance, and God will judge you for your crimes.
Instead of lamenting and complaining why don’t you say and think something hopeful and helpful for a change. Act like a man, and not some snotty ape like wild animal. Where must europans rased we dispatch wild animal. Your attitude serves our common enemy. Do not get delusions of grandeur. You will not survive them.
November 1st, 2008 at 2:17 am
OY VA !!!! as if this ol ho didnt do enough for the feminist movement by running phyopp/propaganda on woman in the 60s, here she comes again to double back on Us for another round.
November 1st, 2008 at 2:24 am
Poor stupid Naomi Wolf still caught up in the left right paradigm. She will learn a hard lesson in reality for her in a future forced labor/re-education camp. You Naomi Wolf have been awarded Moron of the year Congrats!!!!!!!!
November 1st, 2008 at 2:25 am
R.E.#65
: )
November 1st, 2008 at 2:29 am
re #90 & #87 You white folks didnt go into Africa with good intent. You went into to Africa to steal its natural resources. I put the blame on where it belongs. WHITE FOLKS!!! This predatory system that white folks created has come back to bite yall in the ass!!! As long as it was black people getting fu** over nobody cared or sayed anything. Now that the chickens have come home to roast and this evil doers are preying on their own people then now we have a problem. This world is under European control and has never been in worst shape. The only technology yall invent is death!!! Your comments even prove what I am saying. Yall know nothing but war and death!!! Just take a look at the world. Everywhere white folks go they fu** it up. Where in the world can white folks say they went to and created peace? NOWHERE!!! White folks are the true enemy. Yall have created these diseases, wars, and famine. Even Alex Jones admits this. The world will truely be a better place when white folks are exterminated. Black people are not going to have to go to war with yall because yall are going to kill each other!!!
November 1st, 2008 at 2:33 am
I will appolagize for the bluntness of my statements.
They were the result of the racist remarks against whites that I have had to tolerate mostly in silence.
I don’t appreciate them and i can see those that hurled them don’t like getting them back.
nuff said.
November 1st, 2008 at 3:27 am
She probably is just frustrated by her inability to change things…she feels helpless and she is not accustomed to feeling that way because her and her wealthy friends are used to making policy and not being subjected to it themselves.
It’s like the high and mighty are falling.
That’s how I suss it up.
November 1st, 2008 at 3:45 am
Here’s A REAL Topic. I opened up Up my Photobucket “Bulk Uploader” And Not Only was more crap Bragging how Great Window’s Vista is” But a Flash add that Went out of It’s way to scare you into finding a “FLU SHOT CLINIC” and drag your loved ones there seemed to SCREAM “Scare Tactic”. I was in some of the Forced Innoculations on Recruits in the Marines in 92. They told us to “Shut up and take the shots.” It was a 30 yard Gauntlet with Labcoat drones on either side Jabbing us in the arms with Med Guns. Some oof us got sick. Some got REALLY Sick.These days I’ll deal with a flu bug and the discomfort.I’d rather go through a short cycling Sefer viral bug than Hemorage through my Eyes , ears and whaterver other oriface can leak blood.Someone inform Alex about Photobucket’s Blantent Fear Pedaling?It’s too bad because I uploaded a few thousand pix on myne and now I have to Back up those pix,and delete the Album.I am glad we’re keeping our heads with the whole INTENDED racial tension that these 2 Demons are instigating. I bet they take turns setting up fake racialy motivated attacks. I mean really. No Mugger stops infront of an ATM with potentialy 15 cameras to carve a B (backwards in the victim’s face and No real Skinhead Assasin would Have such a halfassed halfbaked plan. I mean This isn’t shooting some minister or Easy target. Secret Service, NSA, Homeland Security, FBS, State and Local Police CIA, Satelite tracking………That’s a Target NOBODY wans to try for love nor Money.If Obama Loses or Gets Assasinated the insiders are behind it . Not WE the WORKING People.
November 1st, 2008 at 4:10 am
re:#98
What 2 demons?
November 1st, 2008 at 4:16 am
#86
#Her face looks like it is decorated with transplants or dried cat assholes…#
.
You really are a fuckwit aren’t ya’…you wouldn’t know how to “casualy observe” a steaming turd ya’ dopey fuck’n prick!!!
November 1st, 2008 at 5:06 am
In any event, it is a positive sign when Ms. Jong finds herself less influencial and also finds that a threatening thing.
It means that someone else will get to have a say in things.
A new point of view.
November 1st, 2008 at 6:02 am
I bet if Obama doesn’t win, she throws herself out of a Cadillac…
Parked on the lawn of course.
lol.
November 1st, 2008 at 6:42 am
Naomi Wolf is a Radical Feminist man hating NUT CASE!!!!She supported VAWA made into law by Biden… Do the research on them… Mc Nasty or Obamby are both bad news but Biden is worse if you are male! Look after your son’s and grandsons!
November 1st, 2008 at 6:57 am
So she’s worried the Mcain sock puppet will beat the Obama sock puppet? This is insane- THEY WORK FOR THE SAME INTERESTS!!
November 1st, 2008 at 7:03 am
I decided not to be a racist and vote for Obama because he was black. I checked out Obama on congress.org by checking out bill he has created and stood for, I read Obamas books and looked at is life history and I as a black man decided Obama is not good for America. I will not be a racist and vote a black man for president just because he is black, I have to look at the facts and I see that Obama is a dangerous man and stands for the destruction of America and her peoples freedom
November 1st, 2008 at 7:14 am
could you imagine such a 2nd civil war……war of the zombies…all the left wing kool aid drinkings fighting the right wing kool aid drinkings…..like watching to whores fight over what STD is better.
November 1st, 2008 at 7:20 am
I commend your honor and integrity Larry.
We only have one U.S. Constitution to protect and when it is gone there will never be another.
Nowhere else on the face of the earth has such an extraordinary document withstood over 200 years of attack by such evil and soulless people as this document has.
November 1st, 2008 at 8:01 am
wow,
well, good luck with that war fellas. i ain’t doin’ shit. as of this point. I could care less
November 1st, 2008 at 8:30 am
1 party government with 2 factions. let the riots begin,,,, in washington d.c. let the blood flow there first, black america stand up to washington, stand up and fight, if obama loses, let him lead the new revolution, that would prove his leadership.
November 1st, 2008 at 8:34 am
blueyedevil yes I have heard of them. They were murdered tortured and she was raped, and they were just on a date. I say hang the murderers. My grandson at 13 was beat up by 6 black thugs aged 13 to 17, at 4 in the afternoon, and when I picked him up he had bones sticking out of his arm and his face was a bloody mush, and at the emergency room the first thing the cop said was what started this. I said what difference does it make, he was beat up by 6 thugs, and she said why do you call them thugs. Absolutely nothing was done. I told her if he and 5 of his white friends beat up a black boy it would be a hate crime, and would be national news. She thought I was a racist, but she never once considered that it might be the other way around. I have never beat anyone up, neither has my grandson. I will never get over this.
November 1st, 2008 at 8:37 am
Riots is not likely what they would be though….a couple dozen people on CNN waving flags and chanting slogans is more likely the outcome.
At least the presidential race will be over.
Next will be tax-time and millions more will refuse to pay taxes this year.
How wiould the government fund the bailout without tax money?
Then Congress would riot!
November 1st, 2008 at 8:39 am
If both candidates are always no different than each other because we live in this failed two party system then why were the last three elections hacked? Why was it, even in the last election when the Democrats took control of the House and Senate, why were the exit polls still way off and all of the “mistakes” went to benefit the Republicans?
Keep your eyes on the exit polls. They shouldn’t be off by more than %1. We use exit polls to validate elections around the world when we install a propped up dictator. There IS a difference between the candidates. If there were no difference then why not have a fair election? Why no paper trail in Florida and Ohio?
November 1st, 2008 at 8:49 am
I love you guys.
Everybody talking about freedom and protest and rising up…oh, unless it’s that Obama guy who gets ripped off by fraud so we can have a 72 years crazy man and an incredibly dangerous VP fraudulently become the rulers of the free world…then you guys on your own. Count me out. I’m going to, guess what, sit in my fuckin living room and do nothing…as always.
“You know he was born in Kenya…”
Pathetic.
EVERYBODY knows that if McCain wins it was by fraud. Bottom-line. And that’s ok with you? Just because you dont like Obama, that’s ok? My goodness if you voted for McCain you should be out in the streets enraged. He’s down by 12 points! Its over. He cant win unless he cheats!
Even more disgusting is this racial idea that only black people will burn the city’s if Obama is not elected. “There’s going to be blood in the streets…” Notice the pun?
What does that mean, though? Only black people care about whether our President is elected by fraud? I think it says a lot more about white people who might do nothing than those of color.
Wonder if it was Ron Paul? “Oh, well then I’d go out and get wet.” Problem is it makes no difference. The last two elections have been illegally stolen–but they were neck and neck. This is a blow-out. And if Obama loses, then you can forget about a Ron Paul style candidate ever winning. You can forget about everything. You’re dead.
If Obama loses and even patriots dont care…well then there you go, they just dont care. What does that say? Only you who dont care can answer that. But I suggest you look in the mirror when you do.
I’m writing in Ron Paul, but Obama is going to win 48-2…but I’m sharping my pitch-fork just in case.
November 1st, 2008 at 8:53 am
Either way we ALL lose. If Obama wins, We lose many or ALL of our GOD given freedoms, if McCain wins, Civil WAR 2.0 ….. If This is true, WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!
November 1st, 2008 at 9:01 am
re:#110
I can relate to your experience and in fact I think many could if they were honest and open about it.
I used to live in a “black neighborhood” but the racism I had to put up with was horrible…
One day the front door was kicked in and when I called the police they came out and told me in front of the entire neighborhood “What do you expect living in a neighborhood like this?!?”
Do you know that even though the cop insulted the entire block by letting them know that HE thought of them as less than rodent-shit, none of them had the I.Q. points to be angry or offended by the cop’s comment?
The cop then told me he couldn’t see any damage to the door even though it was severely damaged and barely attached hanging on one hinge.
My revenge was that I moved to a better place and they stayed there.
Some have since been shot dead in street crime and drug deals gone bad.
But still I try to remember that it really isn’t all of the black race that is bad…just the mentally challenged ones who need hate to justify their stupidity.
For some people hate is all they have and it is all they will ever have.
With them we have to understand that most patriots encountering them will die of bullet holes in their backs and not their fronts.
November 1st, 2008 at 9:41 am
1. It doesn’t matter who wins true democracy expired in 2001 after struggling to breath for at least 50 years.
2. If there are riots in the streets it will be in the bigger cities and where nobody else will give a damn. After the t’ are eliminated it will be business as usual and there will be a renewed respect for law, order, and Marshal Law. Nothing happened after 911 and nothing will happen if there is blood in the streets.
3. The citizens of this country lost half or more of everything they ever saved when the neocons raided the till and their response: “Oh well Martha. We’ll just start again.”
4. Nobody gives a shit about Iraq anymore it’s now part of our culture.
5. 911 isn’t an issue Coumo inferred this. Evidence just confuses things and creates an unneccesary burden on our overstressed society. He’s one of the few people that can do anything about it and that is his call.
7.The voting machines don’t have to be rigged because there isn’t a candidate that represents Joe 6 pack. I love that term it’s so appropos. A true brainchild of the neocon lexicon.
8. The IRS and the Fed are the same entity and nobody cares.
9.Government has taken the place of God and it is the shadow of the almighty on this earth. Since the detrioration of God that occured in 2000 people no longer believe in a higher power. They believe what there senses tell them and are willing to place there hope and faith in an Institutional God created monarchy called democracy which always correlates well with falsified religious doctrine.
10. Poeple are total fucking idiots who will lick boots, kiss ass, and sell there soul for a job. Thats the way it is. If you don’t obey you don’t work with benefits.
11. Nepotism is democracy
12. You can’t have a true democracy unless you have people of integrety in charge. That is why demacracy can never work. It didn’t work 2000 years ago and it always fails. It’s flawed not by its tenets but by its trusting and gullible nature (also well contrived). Unless there are true penalties for those that break the laws of the Constitution democracy is nothing more than a hood ornament on a tank.
S H
November 1st, 2008 at 9:44 am
Gary, Iam writing in Ron Paul also, stock up on all the ammo food that you can and wait, for after the elections, anything can happen. I think this is when Bush is going to pull off the big one.
November 1st, 2008 at 9:47 am
What a romantic vision…….
November 1st, 2008 at 9:51 am
I feel sorry for the puppets of the New World Order…. thats all I have to say.
November 1st, 2008 at 10:09 am
If America riots just because Osama/Obama doesn’t make the grade in this country you can be sure of one of two things would cause it.
1. If the people in America have become so stupid that they have degraded themselves to the point that they believe a closet muslim is the right man to “save” the country.
2. Blackwater Security will be earning their $18 billion dollar (NO BID) contract to operate in America and start riots in several different cities to make Osama/Obama proud.
November 1st, 2008 at 10:16 am
I forgot one
13. In the first month of 2009 half of the heroes will walk away Scott free and live in fabulous luxury for the rest of their days – on your money. And you know what? Theres not a damn thing you can do about it.
We’ll It’s sure been nice jawin wif ya. I think I’ll take my beer and mosey to the rear of the trailer. Oreilly’s on. He’s fixin to talk about the fithy criminals.
You have ya a goodn’ ya here.
November 1st, 2008 at 10:32 am
There isn’t going to be a civil war just because obama isn’t elected. I think Jong is a nutcase if you ask me. There’s no such thing as a “republican mafia.” They aren’t sensible and think that if people don’t think the way they do, then there will be a civil war. People are blinded by Obama’s rhetoric and is lies. Look at his entire plan. Don’t just listen to what people say about it. He can’t follow through with half the sh!t that’s on there anyway. THERE ISN’T GOING TO BE A CIVIL WAR OVER OBAMA. GET OVER YOURSELF.
November 1st, 2008 at 10:37 am
How ironic that it might be Obama himself that will use those troops against the American people. These progressive leftists have not fathomed it out yet. They hve to overcome two hurdles of awakening. That’s why Obama needs to win. For if not, they’d think they had missed the Obama opportunity (and a McCain win would not help the GOP revolutionize itself)
November 1st, 2008 at 10:39 am
well Only 12 % of the united states population are black
The White population is 80%
And Hispanic is 14%
I do not see any civil war at all and no there will never be a race war the united states is not like the 1960s there alot more advanced in martial law.
November 1st, 2008 at 10:40 am
yep, think i will join ya.
November 1st, 2008 at 11:01 am
As a black man in the U.S. I can tell you that I cant be more grateful to be born in this country, imperfect as it may be, it is still mine. I have never felt hate for a specific race and as a matter of principle I have rarely felt hate for ANYTHING. Unlike most I understand American history for what it is, gross manipulation of race against race politics engineered by the powers that be for personal and collective power. It is a fact that for centuries white folks (not all) were convinced that slavery was a paternal and neccesary institution and even though I was’nt there I’m sure almost to a man there were doubts…..all that is neccesary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing. A well crafted plan of divide and conquer is nearing fruition and we are all to blame, eternal vigilance is the price of freedom and slavery is the consequence of poor stewardship. It matters not who wins this race because its the American people who will lose once again, if Obama was ANY different he would not be an option he’s CFR like the rest. We are all brothers..United we stand..divided we fall.
November 1st, 2008 at 11:04 am
If Obama looses there are going to be a lot of pissed off monkeys.
November 1st, 2008 at 11:16 am
I predict: Obama will win by a landslide, so the election fraud planned will be ineffective to put McCain in office. Obama’s hands will be tied during his first term because the powers that really run the show have already stacked the deck and change will come very slowly. There are crazy redneck skinheads who want to assasinate Obama, so he better have extreme protection, although for the life of me I don’t know how Bush and Cheney made it this far. Americans will not revolt or riot en masse about anything, because most are asleep. Only a small activist minority will fight for a cause, and they will be easily rounded up and encased in a knarl of judicial barbed wire. The only way we can restore the constitution is to do everything possible to get Obama and congress to rescind the Patriot Act and all the laws the Bush regime and a lame congress have put in place to beat down our constitutional rights. They must but the uber-rich back on the tax roles where they belong. The Iraq war will take care of itself when the Iraqi government kicks out US soldiers before anyone in the US government is ready for a withdrawal. Iraq will descend into all out civil war until they get something worked out…eventually. An Obama presidency will in the long run go a long way to quell racism in this country, when the white racists realize that he is intelligent, a strong leader, and half white, which is a nod to their regressive fear. The positive side is that Obama will be hailed as the New American Leader, a melting pot hybrid welcomed here and around the world. What goes on with the elite neocons won’t change, but progress will be made in the areas of social and international relations.
November 1st, 2008 at 11:39 am
I dont know if there would be a civil war or revolution if Obama lost, but I could see people of all races taking to the streets if they felt the election was fixed. That would be the beginning of Martial law being declaired to stem this civil unrest. When the time comes that I feel martial law is going to be declaired I will be bugging out and getting away from the populated areas.
November 1st, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Marcia #130,
You just don’t get it do you? Obama is part of the New World Order. He is not a saviour, he is not your friend, and white people are not the problem. A nod to white racists? What about roughly 93% of blacks voting for Obama? That’s not racist? Blacks and guilt-ridden whites need to get over it. The NWO encompasses the entire ethnic spectrum. They will use Obama until he has lived out his purpose. Then, the NWO will either dump him like Hillary Clinton, or they will kill him. Nobody wins in this; We all lose. Take that black, cry baby crap and go somewhere else with it. This is a war against ALL of humanity, not just your “community.”
November 1st, 2008 at 12:28 pm
This is just more propoganda. THE REPUBLICANS ARE NOT THE “BAD GUYS”. BOTH democrats and republicans function to keep each other afloat. They are both liars, new world order puppets in the grand show. Just like ANY other country in the world whether the voting system is rigged or not if someone is elected that the new world order sees as a threat or may create positive change for the population they are eliminated. If they are a complete shill of the NWO they stay in office and everyone bitches and gripes but nothing ever happens. Whats going to the the TRUE catalyst of change? Lets wait and see, yes?
November 1st, 2008 at 12:34 pm
let the civil war begin the spanish brigade is preparing……..
November 1st, 2008 at 12:36 pm
people still don’t get it im a black male age 24 i tried to tell some blacks in my hood about obama and they look at me like im crazy its 2008-09 its not a black and white any more your either wrong our right im form brooklyn ny i tell black people you follow obama but not al sharpton his in the same boat just making an example none of these black actor rappers government workers are my leaders and im no follower all the people i look up to and respect are dead black and white i just don’t know whats wrong with people now a days i have a one year girl and im trying everything in my power to kept her safe cause she is the future i’ll die to kept her safe form the new world order it’s a scary thing to say but its true
MAY GOD BLESS EVERONE STANDING UP TO THESE DEVIL’S
November 1st, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Reality. You lie like a serpant. The food on your table the farming techniques invented by europeans. The machines that prepare the soild plant and irragate, all invented by some white guy. In stead of revising history to fit your hate why don’t you draw example from a good black man named George Washington Carver.
When the Dutch setteled South africa 400 years ago there were no one there. Blacks came down from the north to steal and make war are a bunch of hard working farmers. You are so sick with hate you would rather see all europeans die than to save yourself and your race. We don’t want you to all die. Don’t you get it. We don’t hate you. The illuminati want your entire race exterminated. These are elites. They don’t even consider most white europeans the same race as themselves. They want to murder most of us. Don’t you understand that? I understand your attitude. I have at times been mentally lazy enough to wish ill in your people. On the other hand I recognize it for what it is. An evil thought. All the blacks I know I like. They have been kind and decent. I be dambed if I will ever wish them any harm. Most white folks feel that way. Don’t blame all of us for the evil works of a tiny minority who is out to distroy us all. YOu need to step back and start to try and think out side of the box, because right now you are in their matrix of reality and doing exactly what they want you to do. If you let your hate get the best of you you are going to try and kill whites one day for the shear sport of it, and you are going to find yourself in a completely different ball game. You are going to be up against an enemy who can out think you and out fight you. Remember Rork’s Drift Natal South Africa 1879. You don’t know what you are dealing with. On the other hand most of us don’t want to see your people exterminated, and want you to be free and persue your dreams. Wouldn’t you rather cut us a little slack and give us a chance to perhaps free this world forever for all of us? That hate you have burning a whole in your soul. “How is that working for you”, ask yourself? You are acting as bad as the Illuminati. You are becoming exactly like the people who are ploting to exterminate your people. Can’t you see that?
Why dont you grow up, and start acting like a man and focus your pea brain on a subject much more important than your hate. Focus on our comon enemy. Don’t you get it? What is wrong with you?
On the other hand if you insist on persuing your hate it will in the end be the end of you. The fact of the matter is whites have built this civilization you enjoy. FACT. On the other hand we also are very good at warfair. We try to be nice and civilized, but if you and your ilk push us the venear of civilization will come off. Many of us understand the real enemy. You are being manipulated by the Illuminati, and you are playing right into their hands. It is easy to hate. It is even easy to distroy life on a planitary scale. It takes character to Build something. You don’t care though. All you have is your hate. YOu want to distroy the golden goose that makes your life not only as comfortable as it is, but possible. Do yourself I big fat favor. Read in detail about the Slave rebellion in the roman empire by a slave called SPARTCUS? All the blacks I know are in agreement with me. We are not of the same blood, nor should we be. We are uniqe and should be preserved. We are Americans though. America is an idea that men can live free and determine their own destiny. That is what we are all fighting for. In that way we are brothers. I suspect your fellow blacks many are going to find them in opposition to you and your hate.
We are trying to save our world. Can’t you see that?
November 1st, 2008 at 1:26 pm
To Realist.
You are wrong man. Most of us have never harmed a soul. Most of us are builders. We just have an age old problem and mass media brain washing folks. This is where critical thinking comes into play. It might interest you to know that a lot of us are going to die to save us all. Some will be white, some black, some brown, some yellow, but we are going to survive. I hate to see a soul distroyed by hate. It is a battle I’ve had in my self to be sure, but I recognize who the true enemy is now, and am hoping that more blacks will too. They are playing blacks and white off against each other. You are right about the chickens. Some of us need a frying pan upside the head to knock us to our sences. The propaganda on TV is very skillful. I’m nothing special. I’ll admit that, but I did wake up and discover “I”m not in Kansas any more.”, and start being an adult about things. Hating for no constructive purpose is self distructive. If you join the OHIO militia you will find that it is lead by a good chap by the name of James Johnson. He’s described by the ADL controled media as a clansman.
)) Is to laugh. He’s black man and proud of it. 
It is not about race at all. It is about trying to save our world. If whites have to do all the heavy lifting in that effort, when the fighting is over we’ll send you a measage when it is safe to come out of hiding. There is another alternative though you might consider. Join us? Be part of the solution. The white race is not going to be exterminated. We may get our hear messed up, but we will win. There are a lot of blacks that will fight along side us though. If you are honest, you will see the real white race when the time comes. Most of us are good, just as I have found most Blacks good. We are just folks like anywhere in this world you go. The elites are playing games with our minds to get us to kill each other. As far as my unkind remarks you have my appology. I was out of line. Some of your facts are not right though. We are intelegent, inventive, curious, fun bunch of people if given half a chance. Most of what we have invented is not for warfare. It is so we don’t have to work so dambed hard to put food on the table. Weapons? Sure We are good at that too, but it is not the basis of our technology. Being able to chomp down hamburgers and beer is. 
))))
Cheer up man. You will find that some day you will have friends you do not yet realize you do. Have a good one.
))
November 1st, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Christ Jesus is on his way here it’s only a matter of time! Come King Jesus! Accept in your hearts, get to know, follow, and obey Jesus while he may be found. When the rapture of His church happens(when billions of followers of Christ dissappear), the world will become completely dark literally, and figuratively a.k.a.(chaos, mass hysteria). I LOVE Christ Jesus! PLEASE GO VISIT YOURSFORLIFE.NET! It’s your soul we’re talking about, escape the devastation that is near!
November 1st, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Bthafree #138 -
Can you please direct me to the chapter and verse in the Bible where it metions or hints at the “rapture” you speakof?
I will check back soon.
November 1st, 2008 at 2:40 pm
If you feel afraid, then you must understand that you are afraid of nothing. Fear is not real, because fear is based on illusions. Don’t be afraid of illusion. Fear lies not in reality, but in the minds of children who are asleep, and do not understand reality. It is only the lack of understanding that frightens you. When you know, then you are not afraid. Depression and anxiety is caused by identifying with something false. If you are afraid, its because you saw something that is not there; something unreal. Only Love is real. Therefore, there is nothing to fear.
November 1st, 2008 at 2:55 pm
God I’ve prayed for this for years.
This time we’ll win States’ Rights and restore the Constitution.
November 1st, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Casual Observer, I do not see any scripture that says there will be a rapture, and I read the Bible.
November 1st, 2008 at 3:25 pm
civil war yeah right pffft…
November 1st, 2008 at 4:15 pm
NO SUCH THING AS THE RAPTURE IT WAS INVENTED BY A GUY NAME WILLIAM MILLER IN 1845 -HE INVENTED THE NOTION OF THE RAPTURE HIS PEOPLE WERE CALLED THE MILLERITES -HE PREDICTED THE END OF THE WORLD IN 1846 AND NOTHING HAPPENED AND IT WAS CALLED THE GREAT DISAPPOINTMENT-ITS A MAN MADE THEOLOGY.PLUS THE WORD RAPTURE IS NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE ITS ANTI-BIBLICAL
November 1st, 2008 at 5:12 pm
LESA: I FOR ONE NO LONGER LOOK AT THE ONSLAUGHT OF CELEBRITIES THE SAME AS I USE TO NOT THAT I EVER REALLY IDOLIZED ANY BUT I CERTAINLY KNEW PEOPLE WHO DID. I’LL WATCH CERTAIN SHOWS OR MOVIES FOR ENTERTAINMENT BUT OTHER THAN THAT I FEEL THEIR IN FOR A RUDE AWAKENING THEMSELVES AND ARE GRASPING AT WHATEVERS LEFT AVAILABLE TO THEM. THEIR CHOICE HAS ALWAYS BEEN OBVIOUS JUST AS OUR POLITICIANS AND THOSE ON THE LOWER RUNG OF THE LADDER UNDER THEM BUT I FIND IT EASIER FOR THOSE OF US CLOSER TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT LADDER TO SEE MORE CLEARLY THAN THEY DO SO I GUESS IT GOES WITH THE TERRITORY AND THEIR ARE THOSE OF US WHO WILL SUFFER MORE THAN OTHERS SO NOTHING NEW THERE. ANYMORE I’M MORE TIRED THAN AFRAID.
November 1st, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Seamus O’Malley #140
Do you get out much, not outdoors but out of your crazy head?
November 1st, 2008 at 6:19 pm
This is silly, the are both just different sides of the same coin…unless of course they want to start a conflict which would be the only possibility.
November 1st, 2008 at 6:30 pm
Know, follow, obey, love, accept the Lord Christ Jesus and what he did for our sins, or you will determine your own fate. The RAPTURE does exist. . . 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. The key words are “CAUGHT UP”. His return is near.
November 1st, 2008 at 7:02 pm
matthew chap24 1thess and 11thess. the pre trib rapture lie is to seduce christians to sleep.The second comming does not occur until the anti christ defiles the new temple 11 thess.which occurs after the apostasy of the church( gay pastors,gay marriage etc )Do not be too sure that their will not be a second civil war. Col Mandel house( w wilsons mentor) wrote PHILLIP DRU. How to destroy america.The end is that the government starts the second civil war with its abuses so that it can smash it and create the dictatorship. Probably why they have all those camps. Funny thing that everything else in PHILLIP DRU has been done. President B.O. the dfn has the ability to start this war win or lose.
November 1st, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Hey, bible thumpers on this site, read about how your going to be fooled by the one everybody thinks is going to save them and save the rest of your crap for church.
November 1st, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Well, I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama (Barry) was a CIA plant despite his lack of legal citizenship status. HE WASN”T BORN IN FUCKING HAWAII! HE WAS BORN IN KENYA GET A GRIP! So how does an unknown senator from the facist state of Illinois with less than a years experience suddenly appear on the scene to run for president? CIA plant for the globalist banksters.
November 1st, 2008 at 7:38 pm
Ok you can post my comments now you’ve had plenty of time since I have posted several other comments that are already up on other stories. Thanks in advance.
November 1st, 2008 at 8:07 pm
HEY Mr Illuminate the darkness,your grammar has alot to be desired. You are obviously the product of government schools. How is it that you know the truth that BO is in fact a Kenyan? Amasing that a brain with two working cells can function to that degree! congratulations! You probably know all about his relative Odinga and how he burnt down Christian churches after his political loss brought about even after BO gave him over a million US from his very own campaign. The anti christ will not be fooling any real Christians, and your references to church crap are indeed offensive,even considering your informal government schooling. There will not be any unbelievers in hell. Jesus said that He is the light of the world that came to expose the works of evil done in the darkness,and that in the last days Paul said that there would be scoffers(you) of the Gospel.I would try aluminum .
November 1st, 2008 at 8:41 pm
to the blacks, who think that the “white devil” is doing this to you, you are a bunch of racist fucks, and im sick of you idiots
to the whites, who think that “the blacks” are doing this to you, you are a bunch of racist fucks, and im sick of you idiots
to the whites who think that they are somehow the best candidates to lead a resistance against the new world order, because they have so called “built civilization” and “helped to civilize all the brown people” get over yourselves you arrogant fucks
all races will need to fight for all of humanity together to defeat this evil
trust God, and learn to survive outside of major cities
November 1st, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Sweet! It will be all the liberal psychos that riot after the loss and their be the first one’s carted away to the FEMA camps. Let those zombies riots. Night of the living dead. Then the neocon fascists will gun them down. The wicked slay the wicked. Hopefully, this Jong is in the riots too. This country needs an enema.
November 1st, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Of course there will be riots if Obama dont win. Ya’ll better help spread that wealth or else …. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW_m-2z-qlc
November 1st, 2008 at 10:21 pm
As I examine the comments and the Article it saddens my heart. Yes Wake up America! It is True there is no Rapture. It is a lie. but so is the others things that have been told to the American people. God Bless America is Blaspheme to God. this Nation was set in place by Lucifer and He will soon get a body out of the earth and shew Himself to the world with His Mark 666 His Son will soon be seated in TYRE. then the False Prophet is this Pope, and He will soon have a Stroke and brought to life. Lucifer has other names, one is the Devil and He knows how to divide, Deceive, and then Destroy the people.God warns a person when you see these things come to pass, then it is the End of time. these men who sell their Books and lie about the prophecies of the Bible, they are Workers of Satan. Yes there are 5 more Major things to be put in place, and the Son of Perdition will be seated in TYRE. He will shew His works to the people and no man will buy or sell. If you reject His Works you will have a Beautiful Angel rescue you from a Tormented Hell. The people are so blinded they cannot see the danger they are in. Satan set in place America the place where you come and get your American Dream. It is the greatest Nightmare of all. this Nation is the most lying Corrupt Hypocritical,and Reprobate Nation on the face of the Earth. Wake up America! the 8 Heads are in place, and 9 of the 10 Horns are in place, and the 10th World Power the W.E.O.G. will be seated very soon in the W.T.O.. It is Israel and the other Nations near her. Turkey and the others. yes this must be set in place to set the World Dictator in TYRE. God warns a person “If as person wants to be Ignorant, let him stay Ignorant”. the False Teachers are in place in these false Churches, the Great violence the Great Wealth, and the Great Unbelief is here in our presence. these are signs that we know the destruction is soon to be put in place. those who cannot hear must feel. My heart is troubled for the Soul’s of men that will be sent to a Tormented Hell. A Servant of the god of Israel. joedr@theriver.com
November 1st, 2008 at 10:36 pm
… It doesnt take “blood in the streets” but rather every Obama/Paul supporter going to Washington and shutting down the White House indefinitely while we impeach John McCain the moment he is in office. No Republicans ever again. ITS TIME FOR CHEMOTHERAPY BOYS!
November 1st, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Christians have been looking at the sky for return of the mythical Jesus for 2000 years.
I really do not see any connection of bible myth with the US 2008 presidential elections. As if
the US is the center of the universe and the invisible creator is watching from above.
There many other countries in the world that have elections. There is nothing special
about the US or any other country it’s just another election. In the first millennium after
the birth of the mythical Christ people waited for the end of the world but it never happened.
Now in the second millennium people still think it’s the end of the world but just like before it will
not happen why because it’s just a myth. The stories written in the bible are symbolic with hidden
esoteric and astrological meaning. The 2008 US presidential elections will come and go, the agenda of the elite will continue to unfold unless we wake up to power that we have as human beings to control our world, our reality and our lives. It is easier than you think it’s merely a choice between love or fear. There is no force in this world or in this universe that can overcome the power love.
November 1st, 2008 at 11:05 pm
JESUS IS THE REAL AND ONLY WAY REPENT NOW OR PARISH
feminism is a sin
JESUS IS THE WAY OUT
the FOOL says thee is no GOD
but i say to you if you dont repent and dont bleave the gosple your name is written in THE LAKE OF FIRE
but there is Hope read The bible King James 1611 word
REEPNT or parish
Rom 1:11 For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established;
Rom 1:12 That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith both of you and me.
Rom 1:13 Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles.
Rom 1:14 I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians; both to the wise, and to the unwise.
Rom 1:15 So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also.
Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written. The just shall live by faith.
Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath showed it unto them.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshiped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
November 1st, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Lesa, Al & T2 (#14) Say:
He was a professor of constitutional law at U of Chicago for 14 years. When was the last time we had a president with those credentials?
It’s like having Jonathan Turley in the Oval Office. A pleasant change, it seems to me, considering the greatest damage we have incurred has been to our constitution!
November 1st, 2008 at 11:33 pm
They want a war I’ll give them a war….Let there be blood. You spineless wimps. Stand up and fight for your country….Restore the Republic !!!!
November 1st, 2008 at 11:42 pm
far as i’m concerned their hoping, and if you will, praying for a civil war amongst ourselves which makes their job a hell of a lot easier. we’ll do the dirty work for them just as its always been. no on prop. this yes on prop. that. is anyone else sick of these commercials? i’ve had enough of it. their level of consciousness never evolves beyond the system of lies and deception. laws laws we need more laws! its getting really old. its as if people are stuck in time, whether its politics or religion. the young will have to teach the old. their our only hope. don’t put restraints on them your only keeping them from evolving beyond the paradigm.
November 1st, 2008 at 11:48 pm
To Be Real: you are correct that there is no greater power than love. Jesus said that there is no greater love than a man lay down his life for a friend. Paul said that jESUS DID NOT CONSIDER HIS EQUALITY WITH GOD something to cling to but rather became a man in order to set THAT example for us. If you have a brain? read Josh Mcdowels book EVIDENCE THAT DEMANDS A VERDICT If you do and do not change your ignorant mind at least then I will respect your opinion. You probably wont, will end up in hell and will squeal that no one told you. Have a nice eternity
November 1st, 2008 at 11:49 pm
I thought this site is fair with regards of blogging, etc. How come my post was remove at #63? that has something to do with Barack Obama. Is this site being run by Dems/Liberals?
November 2nd, 2008 at 12:40 am
#166 I love you =)
#162 So what is your point?
November 2nd, 2008 at 1:20 am
I see it like U.S government policy. I do not negotiate with terrorists!
Obama was not born in the U.S so he should not be President anyway.
November 2nd, 2008 at 1:25 am
You are ALL morons. If something does happen you will all certainly be powerless to stop it. Their movement is slow incoming tide.
November 2nd, 2008 at 1:28 am
Wasnt king james gay? yeah, i think he was
November 2nd, 2008 at 1:32 am
RON PAUL write inl
November 2nd, 2008 at 1:39 am
Blacks as a whole will never be an effective fighter of the NWO, we can just forget about that.
If the black male pop is 7% of the U.S they are no where near 7% of the militia.
And the blacks are not only extremely outgunned but just do not have the IQ to fight one to one and win.
November 2nd, 2008 at 1:43 am
WORD!!!!
Fear is an emotion that Our Mother gave Us so that We would not exceed certain limits in manifestation….All the way back to Panguia the devil got Us to denie Our Fear and told all the Spirits that Fear was the problem thus getting Us to denie Our Mother’s Light….Or, Our Own Emotional Bodys,and, of course, blame Her for all the imbalances….
IM FUCKEN SICK OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT FEAR IS OUR ENEMY!!!!….
THESE ARE ….NOT…..RIGHT UNDERSTANDINGS OF FEAR !!!!!
more like
THOSE WHO DENIE THEIR FEAR WILL MEET THEIR TERROR
FIGURE IT OUT GENIOUSES….
THIS SHIT HAS BEEN GOING ON SENCE PAN WHEN THE DEVIL FIRST GOT HERE
I LOVE YOU !!!!!!!!!
November 2nd, 2008 at 2:26 am
David the NWO slayer # 157
You are so TOTALY RIGHT ON !!!….Love You Man …You married ? : )
November 2nd, 2008 at 5:54 am
The comments on this site are getting way out of line…
ARE YOU A RACIST TO ALEX?
If not,
DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT
You are getting funded by the very people that you expose, don’t you?
DOUBLE SPEAK
YOU ARE PART OF IT DUDE
and dumb xenophobic nitwits like RICKY are you’re FOOT SOLDIERS
GOOD LUCK Americans
I’ll be ENJOYING the show from the other side of the ocean
DAMN, Why did we send all our biggest idiots to America?
Hope this wave of STUPIDITY doesn’t roll back and reach our coastline
FUCK YEAH, I’ll kick em right back into the sea
I’m really sorry for the (majority of) Americans who are descent people
HOPE U CAN BEAT HIS MONSTER,
& that includes the FEAR MONGERING idiots that use this very forum to spread their DISEASE
November 2nd, 2008 at 5:58 am
Ow yeah,
By the way,
TROW AWAY THAT STUPID BIBLE STORY THAT YOU BROUGHT FROM THE OLD CONTINENT
Here, we kind of grew out of it
You should try it too
BIG RELIEF
tellin ya,
BIG RELIEF
might as well believe in Harry Potter
LOL, GL
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:23 am
No king James was not gay.
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:21 am
I don’t mean to get back on track here, but isn’t Erica’s statement a threat of terror, and if so, why hasn’t she been abducted by fatherland security for threats to the order and peace of the Reich-land?
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:19 am
to racist isiots like rick, youre part of the problem, the new world order has you doing exactly what it wants, to all the atheists, you guys call the bible a fairy tale, and then turn around and worship a 13 billion year old episode of pokemon,
evolution is a fairy tale, humans are not descended from single celled slime, YOU believe in fairy tales
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:49 am
The whole world needs to take a deep breath,two steps back and exhale.If all the army’s of the world would just lay down their guns,we would not have to run,or be refugee’s.I strongly believe it will take the return of Jesus,whom I believe to be alien,or world wide contact of aliens,to solve the problem we now face,unity as a planet.I believe we have a bigger problem than we realize,and that is where do we lye in the universal food chain.Wake up people,if we don’t work together as a planet,we will not survive as a race.If all the army’s would refuse to fight,what could the moron’s in power do?Nothing.
November 2nd, 2008 at 11:58 am
She only said what we have all been thinking.
November 2nd, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Aliens? WTF? get a grip, the problem must be solved by red blooded Americans we must take our country back from the illuminati/NWO/globalists God provides the mean we must make it happen.
November 2nd, 2008 at 1:11 pm
TONY X: YESTERDAYS MSN HEADLINE HAD TO DO WITH OBAMAS AUNT FROM KENYA BEING IN THE U.S. ILLEGALLY. I WOULD SUSPECT IT WAS TO DEFLECT FROM THE REAL STORY. EITHER WAY EVEN MCCAIN ISN’T LEGAL TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT. LIKE THE CONSTITUTION THEY CHANGE IT AT WILL.
November 2nd, 2008 at 1:31 pm
#25, You are higher than a Witch Doctor. Put the pipe down. Savages will be savages. As for them coming after WHITEY. They have done that for a very long time. The metro Detroit area were use to it. 12% of the population responsible for 80% or more of violent crime. As for unintelligent. A terrible mind is a thing to waste. I can gauran f**king t you I/WE aint gunna be out gunned. Not by a squad of jokers that dont know how to wear a ball cap. They cant run to fast with their pants around their knees. Who the hell would dress like a Haitian refugee. Here the local tee shirt reads. DETROIT… WHERE THE WEAK ARE KILLED AND EATEN. No weakness here mister. In VietNam I carried a machine gun, both my ammo bearer and assistant gunner were black men. Good men. We all survived. Fire power rules.
If the poor ignorant under privileged huddled masses want to do what they do best. Burn their neighbor hoods down. Get to it. They can sleep in the cold.
As for Jane Fonda. Super glue a AK in her hands put a shamag on her head and kick her ass out a door in Baghdad and let her get her ass shot off. Wouldnt that be some poetic justice.
The real danger here is ignorance and stupidity the actions of the GVT are out of our control.
we can only prepare. Buy food, guns and ammo.
#39 Sounds a lot like Rodney King. Cant we all just get along. You saw the ass whoopin he got. Between the cops and folks like #25crackattack your living in lala land and so are a lot of others. Peace loving benevolent people will be the first casualties. Time to face the facts and begin to cover you asses.
November 2nd, 2008 at 1:44 pm
#128 megatonone, Well said.
November 2nd, 2008 at 1:52 pm
I care not about race in this potential situation. All you racists on both sides should take your stupid feuds elsewhere because it does you no good to stamp yourself as ignorant as you are ironically slinging at another race.
I’m white.
I have lived in a suburban area, middle class my whole life and I was taught this: “Respect everyone equally”.
You know who I hate? I hate those of you quick to judge others for no goddamn reason. Black crime statistics, are you serious you stupid white supremacy fools? Or how about saying how we should all look in the mirror if we want to see who caused the downfall of our glorious (sarcasm) land to the Black Americans who just want to fight back at the comments?
I am terribly sorry to any African Americans whose direct family members had anything to do with slavery. But I’m not responsible, so don’t pin that shit on me.
To all the “fellow” whites just looking out for all our common good, take a nice little gander back at your genealogy and or family history, there is no such thing as “white”.
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If some sort of injustice will continue to sweep our country, I am not one of the “MSG’d and flouridated lazy people” who will sit back and wait for others to revolutionize and make headlines. Know why? CARE why?
Last night in my quiet town, on a main route that I travel almost every night during the weekend, there was at least 12 police cars and cones funneling all traffic on both sides of the road into one lane. With a high-ranking trooper stopping every vehicle going through and searching each vehicle WITHOUT probable cause. I looked to the left and in a parking lot was (and I swear on my own life) 1 heavy-trooper trailer (had obviously bulletproof and explosionproof everything with at least 18 tires…) and a portable x-ray machine. Why do I know the machine was x-raying us? A man was outside holding something similar to a radar gun/speed calculator thing, except since everyone was stopped, why would they need to check our speed?
I’m sick of this bullshit. Submitting to these puppets. I’m not stupid enough to do anything drastic, but linking to my initial point I do not care if you are black, white, asian, hispanic or otherwise…if I see troops taking people out of houses or riots erupting I WILL defend myself and I suggest you all do it as well.
What do you have to lose? It’s really what we all can gain, you know.
Takes one spark to start a fire.
November 2nd, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Number 8 said…
“This was said on a couple articles. Well, that and some believe it would happen if the “Black Messiah” as it was stated doesn’t make president.
Well firstly, Barack Hussain Obama is not black. He might be partially black, but he is not black. In the dog breeders world he would be considered a mutt. So if race is the card that is being played, all I can say is why don’t you try putting a real black guy in office.
Secondly, this whole messiah statement. Obama is most definitely not a Messenger of Yah.
These people have seriously lost their minds.”
Um, okay… first of all, one of the stated goals of J. Edgar Hoover’s COINTELPRO was to prevent the appearance of a “Black Messiah”. And we all know what a swell guy he was and how that program increased our liberties, right?
Secondly, there is no such thing as “race”. It is an artificial human categorization with no basis in science. Now if you consider “black” the peoples most African Americans descend from, then no, Obama is not West African. He is half subsaharian East African, and half white. However, Kenya is NOT an arabic or muslim nation, so if you consider “black” those people of subsaharan African with dark skin, then he is half black/half white. However, if you know anything, you know that for centuries in this country there was a “one drop” rule, meaning if you had even a simple drop of African blood in your ancestry, you were considered “black.” So, by this standard, Obama is “black.”
If you’re an American, than guess what… you’re most likely “a mut” too. None of us over here really have our “papers” now do we? Many of us have Native American blood running through our veins. If not, then many of us have Italian, English, German, Irish, etc mixed. You may consider them all “white”, but then again classical notions of race considered many of the Persians “white”… you know, those scary Iranian guys.
My point is this. The infowars readers are very informed about geopolitics, religion, and various substrands of history. But as far as race, the knowledge of most people on this site is… lacking, to say the least. So, lets check the tribalism at the door, shall we? Because with all the problems that Obama and his presidency could bring, bringing race into it just makes you sound like an ignorant asshole. Thanx.
-WyseDome the White Guy, except I’m part Cherokee… okay, WyseDome the “American Mut”
November 2nd, 2008 at 2:30 pm
I want to be elected!
November 2nd, 2008 at 3:53 pm
B.O.is not a citizen,so says his granmother who was there. Is she a liar? or is BO a bastard child who lies?
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/.....-strategy/ BO is a muslim like his cousin Odinga who wants to impose Sharia law, and if you are a Christian he has no problem killing you.I used to wonder as a child how Christians could ever be persecuted in the land between shining seas. Odious Mr BO my well be the end to open Christianity in this country. Fine time to separate the sheep from the goats, the wheat from the tares. All of you who feel that a pre trib rapture will get you out of here are sooooo wrong. Name one time God has taken pleasure in cowards. This is the time for those who do not love their lives or this world to stand and proclaim Jesus is Lord Every knee shall bow, every toung confess.
November 2nd, 2008 at 3:54 pm
B.O.is not a citizen,so says his granmother who was there. Is she a liar? or is BO a bastard child who lies?
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/.....-strategy/ BO is a muslim like his cousin Odinga who wants to impose Sharia law, and if you are a Christian he has no problem killing you.I used to wonder as a child how Christians could ever be persecuted in the land between shining seas. Odious Mr BO my well be the end to open Christianity in this country. Fine time to separate the sheep from the goats, the wheat from the tares. All of you who feel that a pre trib rapture will get you out of here are sooooo wrong. Name one time God has taken pleasure in cowards. This is the time for those who do not love their lives or this world to stand and proclaim Jesus is Lord Every knee shall bow, every tongue confess.
November 2nd, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Erica Jong= famous feminist author=CIA funded, no doubt. Scare tactics to get people afraid NOT to vote for Obummer.
Go take another valium-or take the whole bottle, and sleep thru it, Erica. We know you’re on the inside. Just look at the words you used; they are the same as was used to threaten Congress for the $700 B Bonus-Out!
November 2nd, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Erica, you and Jane need to tighten up yer wigs, and so does Naomi; the so-called ‘Second American Civil War’ has become virtually inevitable, so get used to the idea. You’re all purported to be pretty smart, so how was it y’all missed the imposition of the ‘unitary presidency’? Senator Leahy (who is the brightest bulb on NOBODY’S Christmas tree) said on national TV a couple of years ago that Bush ‘doesn’t need us – - – he can just send us home.’ He almost went into tears.
Either Obama or McCain getting elected will precipitate the North American Union, replacement of the dollar with the Amero, totally open borders and a slew of consumption taxes; a new Congress is a useless appendage, since the Unitary Presidency. People tend to forget that the american people are the distilled essence of every great fighting people who ever walked the earth; Blackwater has shown us that americans without the strictures of discipline and the rule of law will take you back before the Stone Age, so if you’re in Italy, just stay there and wring your hands. I don’t feel sorry for any of you.
November 2nd, 2008 at 6:44 pm
I think the thought processs of alot of Republican supporters must go like this.
“I’ll turn a blind eye to the police state, 911, the fact that Palin is Retarded and Mcaain is an 70 yo cancer survivor because Mccain says hes against abortion and gay marriage and the Republican Spin machine told me that Obama supports these things + I’m a damn racist.
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:31 pm
It’s people like her and Maxine Waters (politician from CA) that will induce riots….. Stupid bitches…
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Hey, self proclaimed dingbat, traitor Hanoi Jane can bite me, she’s as much scum as her ex-husband and his eugenics beliefs Ted the Fuck head Turner. Erica you better get some better friends the one’s you have will do you no good.
The fact that we have all of these far-more important issues at stake, that have many times warranted the second revolution, Jong seems to think it’s all about a stupid Alien from Kenya trying to run for president and has managed to hypnotize the public to the point of sheer denial.
Well he has, but I don’t think your even close to what would cause a revolution. Besides this would be a revolution of pussy, limp wrist-ed, slumps in a couch with a TV remote in hand yelling go get em’.
How about the many violations of the constitution for starters, the un-patriot act, the John Warner defense bill, and the military commissions act. Or the loss of Posse Comitatus, and Habeas Corpus.
Or better yet how about the architects this nightmare the unrelenting lucifarian banksters who run even your rose colored life.
How about the homeless and starving masses in this country increasing everyday, families that have to make decisions between putting gas in the car or eating garbage food.
Fuck the alien send him home and prosecute him for forgery, illegal status and election fraud and move on.
Mean-while the banksters are cleaning out your bank accounts and 401k’s, and Ira’s. You OKed them to steal from you and there’s no oversight so you can’t fight back just read it.
Well, at least they think so, but there’s one thing though, if congress was to announce they were under duress (terrorism1) during the decision making process to pass the bankster rip off bill,
(and they were threatened with martial law1 admitted by members of congress,) then we could undo what was done by the banksters, but I think most of congress is going to have to be voted out to purge the CFR members before that happens.
END THE FED_UP!
Vote out every incumbent no matter what. Then vote out the FED and IRS AND HLS.
Erica Jong dear put away the pills and do some research outside your little world before you spout off your insidious bullshit.
November 2nd, 2008 at 10:34 pm
This statement is for Rick78x, you stated, “but all this hype about rioting in the streets if he loses is a bunch of white/guilt/paranoia to the 10th degree and beyond”, UM REMEMBER RODNEY KING?
November 2nd, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Hey, self described dingbat, traitor Hanoi Jane can bite me, she’s as much scum as her ex-husband and his eugenics beliefs Ted the Fuck head Turner. Erica you better get some better friends the one’s you have will do you no good.
The fact that we have all of these far-more important issues at stake, that have many times warranted the second revolution, Jong seems to think it’s all about a stupid Alien from Kenya trying to run for president and has managed to hypnotize the public to the point of sheer denial.
Well he has, but I don’t think your even close to what would cause a revolution. Besides this would be a revolution of pussy, limp wrist-ed, slumps in a couch with a TV remote in hand yelling go get em’.
How about the many violations of the constitution for starters, the un-patriot act, the John Warner defense bill, and the military commissions act. Or the loss of Posse Comitatus, and Habeas Corpus.
Or better yet how about the architects this nightmare the unrelenting lucifarian banksters who run even your life.
How about the homeless and starving masses in this country increasing everyday, families that have to make decisions between putting gas in the car or eating garbage food.
Fuck the alien send him home and prosecute him for forgery, illegal status and election fraud and move on.
Mean-while the banksters are cleaning out your bank accounts and 401k’s, and Ira’s. You OKed them to steal from you and there’s no oversight so you can’t fight back just read it.
Well, at least they think so, but there’s one thing though, if congress was to announce they were under duress (terrorism1) during the decision making process to pass the bankster rip off bill,
(and they were threatened with martial law1 admitted by members of congress,) then we could undo what was done by the banksters, but I think most of congress is going to have to be voted out to purge the CFR members before that happens.
END OF THE FED_UP!
Vote out every incumbent no matter what. Then vote out the FED and IRS AND HLS.
Jong do some research outside your little world before you spout off your insidious bull.
November 2nd, 2008 at 11:02 pm
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November 3rd, 2008 at 1:41 am
Fuck the alien send back to Indonesia after we try him for fraud, illegal status, and election fraud. he ain’t going to start shit.
November 3rd, 2008 at 9:33 am
Does anyone remember what jane fonda did to the POWs in vietnam ? she should have been put on trial as a trater to the USA
November 3rd, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Thems niggars are not politicaly correct if ya all ask me
JIM