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Evangelical faith drives Palin’s pro-Israel view
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Ralph Z. Hallow
The Washington Times
September 4, 2008
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ST. PAUL, Minn. | Sarah Palin displays an Israeli flag in her governor’s office in Juneau, even though she has never been to the country, and attends Protestant evangelical churches that consider the preservation of the state of Israel a biblical imperative.
Her faith makes her a favorite with the staunchly pro-Israel neoconservative elements in the Republican Party.
But other Republicans may be concerned that a John McCain-Sarah Palin administration will disregard the caution of former President George H.W. Bush and some of his top advisers and continue the tilt toward Israel.
Most Republicans and conservatives outside Alaska know little about Mrs. Palin’s foreign policy views – on Israel or anything else.
But Tucker Eskew, who holds the title of counselor to Mrs. Palin in the McCain-Palin campaign, left no doubt where she stands.
“She would describe herself as a strong supporter of Israel’s, with an understanding of Israel’s fear of an Iran in possession of nuclear weapons,” Mr. Eskew told The Washington Times.
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September 4th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Please remove the anti-immigrant section from this great site!!
I am the only person in El Paso Tx. to be pushing for 9/11 truth and against the bankers on all left/right political shows. But this site turns many off in my city due to the hatred of immigrants rather than the NWO that creates immigrants. This site should stop trying to get viewers with blatant racism. Otherwise you are losing all your credibility with Latinos and they have to search elsewhere and you discredit me when I direct people to this site. Stop the attack on immigrants NOW!
September 4th, 2008 at 9:57 am
When Jesuits and Catholics look at the cross, they worship and admire how they killed a Jew, not the man who is represented on it.
Blame the Jews and Israel for everything, but Jesuits and Catholics are the ones pulling the strings.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:02 am
They are not immigrants.. They are ILLEGAL Aliens.
My grandfather was an Immigrant .. He came through Ellis Island. .LEGALLY!
Not under a fence or in the back of a tractor trailer running from the Feds like roaches when you turn the lights on.
Screw the ILLEGAL Immigrants. American Citizens come first. Everyone else take a back seat.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:06 am
We’re all from somewhere else. Enter any country you want but do it legally.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:08 am
So far it seems that either my post was censored or deleted somehow. If this one gets through and the previous one does not
September 4th, 2008 at 10:12 am
#1
That is a cop out. Nobody on this site, or the staff that helps Alex Jones run this site are anti-immigrant. That is a oxymoron, we’re all immigrants, unless your name is Rulling Bull, or Hawk with White Feathers, your pretty much a transplant. But you know what, my family waited in line at Ellis Island like everybody else. They were quarantined, fumigated for parasite, and given a phsyical. If your “people” are turned off by making excuses for illegal immigrants, maybe they want their children contracting, Rubella, measels, scarlet fever, malaria, yellow fever, among other equatorial, and sub tropical diseases that were effectively ended in this country a half century ago, by enforcing a strong immigration policy. I don’t want uninoculated, third world, petri dishes jumping over a fence for work or floating a raft to our shores, and causing a nationwide epidemic. You don’t play by the rules, you and your family should be sent packing. Your a threat to the rest of our health. That’s just reintroduce Polio to a country that hasn’t been vaccinated for it, twenty five years. Where is your human rights coalition then, when the CDC is stacking newborns in the morgue to the ceiling. THey are selfish, idiots, that care nothing about the rest of us, or they’d their turn. That is just one example of why these third world trespassers should be turned back at the gates, and sent to the back of the line. Period.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:17 am
Ralph Z. Hallow, the codex of the Evangelical faith has reasonably straightforward rules for the appointment of a legitimately ordained government. Read those thoroughly, and then tell us who you think is acting on which religious grounds.
(La Verdad, the truth is that you don’t differentiate between migrants and immigrants, either in this thread about political Zionism, or in a place where your comment is on-topic. Are you familiar with the American saying, “red herring?”)
September 4th, 2008 at 10:17 am
Krik, That’s a very ignorant way to get your point across. While I agree with you that all immigration should be done legally, it is not the illegals fault that our Gov’t has no interest in securing it’s boarders. Ironically the US might be getting to such a state of chaos and depression this whole argument could become moot, because no one will want to come here legally or illegally.
I would ask when discussing illegal immigrants that you refrain from any disparaging remarks directed towards the Mexican people. They are a great people that are incredible hard working, incredible well mannered and they are the descendants of two highly intelligent ancient cultures. The Aztecs and the Mayans. They are part of the human race which I propose is a one large collective organism.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:19 am
I hope she does not support those 7 noahide laws, which calls for the decapitation of all who don’t obey them. This includes everything from petty theft to murder to confessing Jesus as Lord. I recommend that everyone researches these laws because apparently they are on their way to us. The evangelicals are known to change the teachings to suite the masses. I hope her church isn’t one of them, but if it’s a 501c3, than I don’t know…… church Ya, Bush and Obama are Christians too, and I am Mary Poppins and I have a bridge for sale too. Doesn’t matter who wins, these republicrats will support the NWO agenda or suffer like the rest of us. Get a load of the Israel supreme court building, isn’t that special?
September 4th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Nooe its OK.. my post made it through intact.. just a server delay.. Thanks Alex
September 4th, 2008 at 10:31 am
Thanks for the sane input, Mike (post #8). Hopefully people can hear your message and understand how they are being MANIPULATED to hate immigrants. In other words, when you get mad at the Mexicans over the illegal immigration issue, you are falling right into the nwo’s trap. They WANT us to get angry at the immigrants, and not at the ones responsible for such shoddy border enforcement. Studying the forces behind the “La Raza” movement and the “Reconquista” will help one understand what the game here is.
Also, on the notion of elitist engineering race/class wars, I see a potential orchestrated escalation of tensions between blacks and whites in America if Obama is elected. I can see it now… Anyone criticizing Obama will be called a racist. It’s basically already like that among most blacks now. They can’t see past the color issue, which is ironically racist in itself.
God be with us…
!!!DTTNWO!!!
September 4th, 2008 at 10:35 am
Not surprised.
And to the TROLLS, your attempt to distract from Palin’s support for the rouge, genocidal zionist state with immigration discussions.
You have been identified.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:35 am
Mike what you say is in part true. However, what they are doing by the millions is ILLEGAL. That said. SCREW THE ones that are here illegally.
And if you dont get that point , I dont care.
Two years ago When i had a health issue and had to go to the hospital I had a 27,000 dollar bill . I was laid off and had no insurance. I had to pay that.. The ILLEGAL vermin would have that covered for free in my state without paying anything into what i have been paying for 40 years. That is not the issue though.
So don’t piss me off with your cry baby attitude of protecting law breaks.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:44 am
They are not all Israel, who are of Israel.
Spiritual Israel lies in the hearts of true Christians, (the church)
Israel of the flesh is over there. (Zionists w/ nuclear arms)
September 4th, 2008 at 10:46 am
How very interesting a tiny token Israeli flag is in the window but there is no flag of any other nation. Palin is so brain dead she probably did not even notice who put it there. Perhaps it was a gift to her from AIPAC as a friendly reminder.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:50 am
will people stop falling for the good ole murikan girl next door image now? what BS this circus is.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:56 am
You are right, No. 15. Christians who believe God has some special place for geopolitical Israel are not to be counted as Christians.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:58 am
This is a great addition to this article…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....n_iraq_war
In the article they quote…
“In an address last June, the Republican vice presidential candidate also urged ministry students to pray for a plan to build a $30 billion natural gas pipeline in the state, calling it “God’s will.”"
She Quotes…
“I can do my job there in developing our natural resources and doing things like getting the roads paved and making sure our troopers have their cop cars and their uniforms and their guns, and making sure our public schools are funded,” she added. “But really all of that stuff doesn’t do any good if the people of Alaska’s heart isn’t right with God.”
-New Guy
September 4th, 2008 at 11:13 am
George, you obviously are not a Christian. I don’t know what Bible you read but God’s Word makes it CLEAR that natural Israel DOES have a plan at the end of time. You “revisionist christians” amaze me. You must spiritualize every Word of God which is not the way the Bible is to be read. Yes! There are spiritual lessons in all of the writings that are about the natural world but ALL of God’s Word is NOT to be spiritualized!
No wonder so many of you seem to hate Jewish people! God has not made a plan for the land of Israel because they’re “good”. He made a plan and will keep it because He’s NOT a covenant breaker!! And His first covenant was to HIS LAND – Israel.
September 4th, 2008 at 11:16 am
I am Jewish and I support Israel’s right to exist. I am not a fan of the Republican Party or Democratic Party. I fully support Ron Paul. The problem I have is that people always chastise me for believing in Israel and supporting it.
Evangelical Christians support Israel for many different reasons than Jews do. The Jewish people are Israel and Israel is the Jewish people. We do not have to believe in Jesus to have the belief that Israel is our spiritual homeland.
Many of you anti-Israel supporters have not even set foot on the ground there to see what a great country it is and what rights they enjoy, even many of the Arabs that live there have the same rights as other Israelis. Who took in refugees from Darfur? Did any muslim nations do that? Can yo be openly gay in Israel? Yes you can, and they won’t kill you or send you to prison.
I do not support war and corruption, but watch out. Alot of these anti Israel comments (not all) are tinged with anti-semitism. Just because I believe in Israel does not mean I support violence and corruption. There is a line.
September 4th, 2008 at 11:30 am
My last statement on this subject: The reason “revisionist christians” don’t believe in supporting Israel or that the Lord has a special plan for them is:
a) You don’t read nor study the Bible.
b) You don’t understand the basic premise of salvation – God chooses and saves who HE CHOOSES to save! It has NOTHING to do with how GOOD we are. It’s a mystery (by the way, that’s very Biblical; it’s through the entire Old Testament and New; especially the Book of Romans and the beginning of the book of Ephesians).
c) Also, the entire Bible is sprinkled with Scriptures saying that Israel is “MY LAND” (God speaking). The Biblie (if you believe in it) speaks repeatedly about how God will keep that land, bring His people back to that land (interesting how thousands of years later they are gathering and continue to gather there; in no other country has this happened) and the Lord Jesus Himself will rule and reign there – “And His feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west…etc.” – Zechariah 14:4. God has CHOOSEN this land to be His, not because the people are better than anyone else (just like choosing those He does for salvation) but because it’s His Will.
Now, those who want to wrap their brains around God’s Word and try to make it believe whatever they want it to be, you’re not reading Scripture correctly.
And those who don’t believe, well, I respect you more. At least you have a reason to feel the way you do. Those who claim to be Christians and yet don’t believe God’s Word, may God have mercy on you for trying to make it say something other than it does.
September 4th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Christian zionists are heavily infiltrated with sayanim(or some modification of sayanim). My gut, my viscera says this chick ’s parents or grandparents were or are sayanim. Hal Lindsey is so obviously sayanim. Joe Lieberman was the first choice for VP. Palin is Lieberman’s and Lindsay’s and the sayanim’s girl.
***Victor Ostrovsky and Claire Hoy, By Way of Deception St Martin’s Press, New York 1990.
The Mossad, being the intelligence body entrusted with the responsibility of plotting the course for the leaders at the helm of the nation,
The Mossad – believe it or not – has just 30 to 35 case officers, or katsas, operating in the world at any one time. The main reason for this extraordinary low total, as you will read in this book, is that unlike other countries, Israel can tap the significant and loyal cadre of the worldwide Jewish community outside Israel. This is done through a unique system of sayanim, volunteer Jewish helpers.
The American Jewish community was divided into a three-stage action team. First were the individual sayanim (if the situation had been reversed and the United States had convinced Americans working in Israel to work secretly on behalf of the United States, they would be treated as spies by the Israeli government). Then there was the large pro-Israeli lobby. It would mobilize the Jewish community in a forceful effort in whatever direction the Mossad pointed them. And last was B’nai Brith. Members of that organization could be relied on to make friends among non-Jews and tarnish as anti-Semitic whomever they couldn’t sway to the Israeli cause. With that sort of one-two-three tactic, there was no way we could strike out. ***
September 4th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Alisa, so strangely silent about the systematic killing of thousands and thousands of Palestinians. The abuse and torture is so rampant it is sickening. Heard nothing about the hundred of homes being built on Palestinian land on the West Bank? You also mentioned nothing about the failed aggression against Lebanon that would have gone on and on if Israel had not been pushed back.
FYI, I am a SEMITE too. Just happens that I am not Jewish. As for the Arabs who live in Israel, yes you are correct, they have the same rights. Be careful the way you use the term “semite” The term anti-semite refers to Jews only. It was coined in 1873 by German journalist Wilhelm Marr in a pamphlet called, “The Victory of Jewry over Germandom”.
No nation is perfect, however, Israel is far from it. It has everything to do with the official US policy concocted with Israel. The policy is that there can be talk of peace between Israel and the Palestinians, but no such peace shall become a reality.
Most Americans don’t understand that the US has no formal written defense treaty with Israel. Everything is implied. To this day, Israelis who speak out about that toxic nuclear breeder reactor that has been the source of so many Israeli nukes, are shunned and quieted by the government. What is the big secret? Most people who know Israel know about the reactor.
I am very happy you do not support violent and corruption. Further, I have seen people post blather that is somewhat virulently anti-Zion. Then again, people have a every right to disagree with AIPAC. I have a friend on Facebook who was born and raised in Israel and is gay and did mandatory service in the army. No news there.
Having a good number of Jewish friends, I tell them the same things I posted here. It is much more healthy to discuss issues than to go around with a boatload of prejudice.
September 4th, 2008 at 11:49 am
The bible clearly says that it will return “my people” to her land. Speaking of Israel. Watch this video with the related verses in the bible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKR-J4p4zes
Big deal if Palin has a flag.
September 4th, 2008 at 11:53 am
Supporting Israel’s right to exist and supporting Israel’s unlawful occupation of Palestinian land are two different things. Most evangelicals want to see a blood bath so Jesus can return and many Israelis, though by no means all, want to extend their territory. Arabs in Israel are second-class citizens and do not have equal rights. The zionist lobby group, one among many, have a stranglhold on American politics. America is making the problem worse and these christo-zionists are helping lead us to destruction. I am a muslim, by the way.
September 4th, 2008 at 11:54 am
My God stands for peace and love. He is forgiving and full of grace. He is the one and only true God. My God is Israel and if you oppose him he will smite you and see you suffer unbearable pain for all eternity.
Let’s be really careful because;
If you oppose Zionist Israel you are an anti-Semite.
If you oppose Obama you are prejudice.
If you question our government you are unpatriotic.
If you oppose our leaders you are a terrorist.
If you oppose our God you are evil and must die.
Just continue to be good little sheep and believe the wolves, for they are strong and will protect us!
September 4th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Can someone answer this please? —> There are 195 countries in the world.
Why does anyone give a crap about Israel??????????
September 4th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
#13
Shalom, shalom, shalom. As I type this I am spinning (backwards) Satanic dreidels, and lighting fiery menorahs, belching black smoke from the very fires of hell, while sipping the blood of Goyim virgins from my kosher beer helmet. You know just another day in the neighborhood. It’s what I do when I’m not reliving killing Jesus, or counting the gold I stole from the Anglo American middle class. You are being watched closely! Do you really think those two old ladies at bingo night, or the postal worker who won’t the ham at the community picnic, aren’t zionist mossad agents, watching your every move? If you only knew how much power we have over you. Your going to wake up one morning, with curly little bangs hanging down the side of your face, with the urge to eat Christian children. We’re like werewolves, only with bigger noses and more ear hair.
September 4th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Again, and again. Who cares? Israel? jews? Arab jews? Jewish arabs? Muslim Arabs? Muslim Jews (lol) ?
WHO CARES!?!?! This is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Why does anyone care about freaking Israel? Its one country. One of almost 200 in the world. WHO CARES. WHO CARES.
Any and every topic of discussion relating to world news or politics is immediately ruined at the mention of Jews or Israel or Anti-Semitism. Who the hell cares about anti-semitism? Try this instead: GROW UP!!!!!!
That’s right, GROW UP. Meaning, mature to the point where you no longer give a crap about what someone looks like or where they are from. Good lord, can you imagine anything so ridiculous as pre-judging someone based on something like that? Are people really that stupid? Wow.
September 4th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Israel was founded by war criminals, and every day Israel plots genocide against its neighbors. Some of the messages I’m reading here are disgusting, and attempting to claim anti-Zionism is equivalent to racist hatred of Jews. I don’t hate Jews at all, but I wish the ones in charge of Israel (and the Neocons, and the Fed, and the Georgian military, etc!) would stop behaving like f---ing sociopaths!!
September 4th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
OK, enough with the religious babble. its very simple (and do some research people!!!) judaism and christianity are a PLAGIARISATION of the egyptian religion. do you really think that yahweh is supreme ruler of the universe, when a couple thousand years ago he was a tribal storm god.
you people need to start thinking for yourself. religion can never reform mankind because religion is slavery as said by Robert Green Ingersoll, and this is true. just look at the WAR religion has caused. more poeple have died because of religion than it will ever save. it is a tool of segregation. the inquisition, the crusades, the ongoing war in iraq, the 30 year war in germany, russian pogroms, the sudanese civil war, the bosnian conflict, the list goes on and on. hitler even used religion as a tool to unite against the jews because the jews supposedly “killed jesus” which is bull because no credible historian has ever acknowledged his existence. there is only the mention of “chistos” which is a title meaning “annointed one”. and the josephus article has already proven to be a hoax.
which would god prefer you to do? strengthen your “faith” through research and questioning of doctrines and dogmas, or blind subserviance which has never done anyone any good. open your eyes, and stop giving these greedy evangelicals your money because they dont care about you. take a look at all the masonic symbolism in catholic churches. is your christian god the grand architect???
September 4th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
DeeDee, you’re interpreting the Bible in the most psychotic way possible. Let’s focus on the lessons Jesus preaches regarding how human beings should treat one another, and then take a look at how the state of Israel, which was founded by war criminals and plots genocide against its neighbors, behaves. You’re basically engaging in Nazi-like exaltation of a particular racial group and claiming that, no matter what, they are chosen by God. This is sick, racist, and evil.
September 4th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Palin is an evangelical Christian. The relationship between Christianity and Judaism is irrevocable; the God of the Old Testament is also the God of the New Testament. Christians recognize that fact and respect God’s chosen people.
Islam, a creation of the Roman Catholic Church, has been effectively used for centuries to attack both Jews and Christians; in Europe and in the Middle East. The Jesuits ultimately control it all – just as they have since their inception in 1540. Israel and its masonic leadership are pawns of the Papacy – just as are the Skull and Bones neocons in the USA.
The Society of Jesus has fomented wars for centuries in order to further its goals. They are now creating a new paradigm – endless religious wars for world dominance along with the complete abrogation of national sovereignty and the abolition of individual rights.
Their New World Order will bring with it a one-world religion under the auspices of The Whore of Babylon.
September 4th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Israel has no right to exist on Palestinian land.
They killed tens of thousands of people, demolished homes to make that existence appear natural.
Israel is a cancer cell of planet earth!
Even the best of the NON-JEWS should be killed.”
- Abodah Zara 26b
Jews May Rob and Kill the Non-Jews.
- Sanhedrin 57a
Non-Jewish
Children are
Sub-Humans. All
Non-Jewish
children are
animals
- Yebamoth 98a
Non-Jews are
outside the
protection of the
law and God has ‘exposed their money to Israel.’
(Baba Kamma 37b.)18
“Only the Jews are humans, the Non-Jews are no humans, but cattle” (goyim = human cattle) Kerithuth 6b page 78, Jebhammoth 61a
“The Non-Jews have been created to serve the Jews as slaves” - Midrasch Talpioth 225
September 4th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
once again #22
There are two (2) Israels.
Israel of the FLESH and
SPIRITUAL Israel
I myself am of spiritual Israel only because the Holy Spirit has opened my eyes and ears to the truth, and by grace through faith I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Savior. Thank you Jesus.
September 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Gov. Palin appeared on stage in June before a youth group at Wassila Assembly of God, where she reminisced fondly about getting baptized there, before asking the young people to pray for a proposed natural-gas pipeline in Alaska and for American soldiers.
“Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right also for this country,” Gov. Palin said, in a video of the talk posted on the church’s Web site. Pray “that our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God. That’s what we have to make sure we’re praying for: that there is a plan and that plan is God’s plan.”
David Gushee, a Christian ethicist at Mercer University in Atlanta, says he is troubled that a public official might presume that government action could be God’s intent. “I would never think it is appropriate to describe the actions of the United States military or the strategies of our commanders as a plan from God,” Mr. Gushee says.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
September 4th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Free book on the Federal Reserve!
http://www.money-changers.com
September 4th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
“Israel needs to be wiped off the map.”- Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. I agree totally with the president of Iran. Anybody second that motion?
September 4th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
If you believe the Holy Bible, then you believe that Israel is God’s chosen nation and people. If you don’t, you don’t. It’s one or the other. For a simple study, or those that dont own a Bible, simply google israel and bible and do 10 minutes of research…it wont kill you.
Although not Jewish myself, I find the anti-semitism on this site ridiculous and embarrassing….is this Hayden Lake Idaho or what? Give the hate a rest.
September 4th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Im praying every ignorant evangelical idiot (whom are non-christians)along with protestants of every creed responsible for screwing up this country would pack his and her bag head to israel and wait for Iran to wipe it off the face of the earth.You are the true scourge of this country.I hope your all raptured soon,because this world will be a better place without you!Bring back the Inquisition!!!!!!
September 4th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
just because the author of this article doesnt belive israel isnt the holy land doesnt mean that the site is anti semetic
go bother some someone else with your bible pushing
September 4th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
as long as we are fixated on extremist ideologies we will not be able to fight the NWO which thrives off of playing on these divisions. We do not need to agre on everything but we must agree that extremism plays into the hands of the elite. I can quote the Bible, talmud, Christian writings, and Islamic ahadith all day and make organized religion look evil. Yet, there is an essential undertone of faith and that is the underlying dignity of the human being which exceeds the copy/paste of verses by anti-semites and evangelists.
We must realize that:
1)religious extremism is helping the NWO solidify its hold
2)The NWO is against the Abrahamic faiths
This election is a joke.
September 4th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Did anyone notice the pin she had on last night??
Israeli flag
Look close
September 4th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
You have to say one thing about the jews. At least they have a racial plan for the future of all humanity. True, Communism is their idea of social order for everyone who is not jewish, and true, ultimately they want to move the UN to Jerusalem, but it IS a plan. It is deliberate, premeditated and guided by their religeon for their ultimate benifit.
Masons are part of the jew’s plan too. Masons are guided into a huge mystery with no answer at the end of it.
Whites don’t have any plan at all, they just look for the answers which are available to anyone who really cares.
September 4th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
“I will bring them out from the nations and gather them from the countries, and I will bring them into their own land. ”
“Once more fields will be bought in this land of which you say, ‘It is a desolate waste, without men or animals, for it has been handed over to the Babylonians.’
before the Jews got back their land it was a wasteland. Which prophetic scripture talks about Jews taking land that’s not theirs ?
The eternal covenant God made says the land is called Israel.
joel 3:2
the covenant is eternal nothing that happened in the past broke that, that’s why God says he will gather the Jewish people from all around the world and bring them back to their land.
Israel was formed in a day just like God says it would be.
The US prospered a lot the years it supported Israel and went through bad times when it tried to divide it.
If you’re a Christian and think God has forgotten about Israel think again.
Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is bear
do not forsake the roots for that is what supports the branches.
Jesus came 1st for the house of Israel.
The Jews prepared the way for the Lord.
September 4th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Okay, I’m a devout born again Christian too and I am fully aware of the reasons that Christians are beholding to the Holy Land. We believe that the New Jerusalem will be the Capitol of the World someday after Christ’s return and we have faith that we are grafted in to the blessings that God promised Abraham’s lineage. Hey, I’ll be the first to tell you that my Boss is a Jewish Carpenter.
On the other hand, did Old Israel have a history of messing itself up with The Lord? You bet it did. The Old Testament is full of accounts of the sins of Israel in many long term phases where they were deprived of his blessings for a while, but were renewed after punishment again and again. Man that’s grace! Jesus accused them of it as well and they even got the name “stiffnecks” bestowed upon them. Even having an eternal covenant with God Almighty, Israel was allowed to be destroyed and their lineage was preserved for almost 1900 years until the reinstating of the nation as prophesied in 1948. Man, that’s keeping a promise!
Now, is there a large faction of bad apples known as the Zionists? Yes, and they should be better described as the Jewish Crime Syndicate. Have they been on a mad power trip with their money and influence for the last fifty years? We have to admit it’s the truth. Are there ill intentions on the part of the Israeli gov’t. to reap a selfish harvest for themselves at the expense of everyone else in the Mid east? I’m afraid so. Are the Zionists willing to abuse their so called friendship with the U.S.. U.K., and other predominately Christian nations? You betcha, the Mossad has been found to be ruthless and mighty intrusive and don’t mind burning an associate or two to accomplish their underhanded goals (i.e. USS Liberty).
Do I believe the Lord is dipleased with many of these well to do and powerful Jewish people in Western society that are manipulating politics and policy to insulate Israel as they prosecute an imperialistic chastisement of Arab nations? Undoubtedly, and I seriously doubt that the worst of these Zionists are that much in love with the U.S. or Christians per se, we are just seen as a means to an end for the sake of Israel’s Security. These guys probably don”t even attend Synagogue that much.
I’m afraid they’re are going against the plans of God in their greedy control freak methods for the sake of their clique and not for the benefit of all mankind. Despite this troublesome fact that most of the political establishment in Israel has once again strayed from the will of God, He will yet maintain Israel as the Ultimate Jewel of this earth for his saved elect to eternally reside with Jesus Christ. Man, that’s mercy! However, rest assured that many a selfish and unrepentant old Zionist power player and Mossad assassin aren’t going to make it into that Great City.
September 4th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
who is jesus? the SUN…. What does Isreal mean> Isis – amen ra – el (Saturn)….They worship the planet SATURN. They are not a chosen people and there is nothing holy in the holy land. Its all a dam lie. All of it!
September 4th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
“Posterity, you will never know how much it cost the present generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in heaven that ever I took half the pains to preserve it.” John Adams
“The way to have safe government is not to trust it all to the one, but to divide it among the many, distributing to everyone exactly the functions in which he is competent….To let the National Government be entrusted with the defense of the nation, and it’s foreign and federal relations….. The State Governments with the Civil Rights, Laws, Police and administration of what concerns the State generally. The Counties with the local concerns, and each ward direct the interests within itself. It is by dividing and subdividing these Republics from the great national one down through all it’s subordinations until it ends in the administration of everyman’s farm by himself, by placing under everyone what his own eye may superintend, that all will be done for the best.” Thomas Jefferson
“I know of no safe depository of the ultimate powers of society but the people themselves and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform them.”
“There is not a shadow of right in the general government to intermeddle in religion. It’s least interference with it would be a most flagrant usurpation.” James Madison
“If taxes are laid upon us without our having a legal representation where they are laid, we are reduced from the character of free subjects to the state of tributary slaves.” Samuel Adams
“We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our selection between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts as that we must be taxed in our meat in our drink, in our necessities and comforts, in our labors and in our amusements, for our callings and our creeds…our people.. must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live.. We have not time to think, no means of calling the mis-managers to account, but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow suffers. Our landholders, too…retaining indeed the title and stewardship of estates called theirs, but held really in trust for the treasury, must…be contented with penury, obscurity and exile.. private fortunes are destroyed by public as well as by private extravagance.
This is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of society is reduced to mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering… And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in it’s train wretchedness and oppression.” Thomas Jefferson
“If the present (Continental) Congress errs in too much talking, how can it be otherwise, in a body to which the people send one hundred and fifty lawyers, whose trade it is to question everything, yield nothing, and talk by the hour?” Thomas Jefferson – 1821
“It is not only his right, but his duty…to find the verdict according to his own best understanding, judgment and conscience, though in direct opposition to the direction of the court.” John Adams
“All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, so much as downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.” John Adams
September 4th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
“Posterity, you will never know how much it cost the present generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in heaven that ever I took half the pains to preserve it.” John Adams
“The way to have safe government is not to trust it all to the one, but to divide it among the many, distributing to everyone exactly the functions in which he is competent….To let the National Government be entrusted with the defense of the nation, and it’s foreign and federal relations….. The State Governments with the Civil Rights, Laws, Police and administration of what concerns the State generally. The Counties with the local concerns, and each ward direct the interests within itself. It is by dividing and subdividing these Republics from the great national one down through all it’s subordinations until it ends in the administration of everyman’s farm by himself, by placing under everyone what his own eye may superintend, that all will be done for the best.” Thomas Jefferson
“I know of no safe depository of the ultimate powers of society but the people themselves and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform them.”
“There is not a shadow of right in the general government to intermeddle in religion. It’s least interference with it would be a most flagrant usurpation.” James Madison
“If taxes are laid upon us without our having a legal representation where they are laid, we are reduced from the character of free subjects to the state of tributary slaves.” Samuel Adams
“We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our selection between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts as that we must be taxed in our meat in our drink, in our necessities and comforts, in our labors and in our amusements, for our callings and our creeds…our people.. must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live.. We have not time to think, no means of calling the mis-managers to account, but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow suffers. Our landholders, too…retaining indeed the title and stewardship of estates called theirs, but held really in trust for the treasury, must…be contented with penury, obscurity and exile.. private fortunes are destroyed by public as well as by private extravagance.
“If the present (Continental) Congress errs in too much talking, how can it be otherwise, in a body to which the people send one hundred and fifty lawyers, whose trade it is to question everything, yield nothing, and talk by the hour?” Thomas Jefferson – 1821
“It is not only his right, but his duty…to find the verdict according to his own best understanding, judgment and conscience, though in direct opposition to the direction of the court.” John Adams
“All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, so much as downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.” John Adams
September 4th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
“as long as we are fixated on extremist ideologies we will not be able to fight the NWO”
the new world order wants everyone to believe exactly what you’re saying, that every religion worships the same God then the anti christ can rise up and say he’s that god. allah is not the same god of the torah and new testament. the apostles that spread the good news (the bible) died horrible deaths telling the world exactly what islam says is a lie, that Jesus died and rose again and they saw it happen, and without that noone would go to heaven (in the old testament Jews believed the sacrifices only covered their sins, there was still a veil separating them from God, that veil was broken when Jesus died on the cross).
muslims believe that they can get to heaven by works and the bible says you can’t.
Jesus is God’s son muslims don’t believe God has a son.
Jews were going to stone Jesus because he said before Abraham I AM.
The bible says not to add anything else to it 500 years later the muslims
John 10:1-2 – Verily, Verily, I Say unto you, he that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
John 10:11 – I am the Good Shepherd; the Good Shepherd gives His life for the sheep
September 4th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
“who is jesus?”
and yet every biblical prophesy has happened or is coming to pass.
why did constantine who was more interested in new age religion change the holy day from savato (literally means SABBATH) to sunday (the day of the sun). the day of the sun sunday (in Greek means FIRST day of the week) was not the original day the Jews rested on.
PASHA (the resurrection of Jesus day) was replaced by pagans by a pagan celebration of easter. originally NOTHING was pagan.
YISRAEL (israel in HEBREW) is a combination of two Hebrew morphemes: “ysr” and “el”.
EL means GOD
“ysr” means
) It might come from the root S.R.R, in the meaning of “rule”, “prince”, thus the whole name means “he who rules with god” (”thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed”, Genesis 32:28 KJV).
2) It might come from the same root (S.R.R) in the meaning of “strive” or “struggle”, thus it all means “he who struggles god”, referring to the event in which his name was changed.
3) It might come from the root Y.SH.R, means “straight”, “honest” or “righteous man”, thus the name means “honest man of god”, or something like that.
why would you look at the word in English ? you have to check the HEBEW meaning of it. and it’s YIS not is.
September 4th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
More religious articles by retards on here.
Make a post, not a f---ing novel! Nobody is going to read all this BS.
Religion is Fake, get it right!
September 4th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Anyway….She is hot!!!!!
She is the M.I.L.F………:-))))))))))
September 4th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
The problem with her religion, which I have been to that Assembly of God church she is talking about when I was young, is that they think everyone should be like them, or they are going to hell. Wasilla is full of people that go to this church, I dont really care, but dont force it on me!!!! Like she is doing!!!
September 4th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Jesus called the False Jews Satanic….and Revlations refers to False Jews as the Synagogue of Satan.
They are racists, liars and murderers
September 4th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Im with BS- if we want to be free we need to open our eyes to the truth. It may hurt to realize 9/11 was an inside job, and it hurts to realize your religion is a scam- but its right there. rjmichigan also raises good points. They are all practicing religions based on astrology- if you havent realized this then you arepurposefully looking the other way. Religion is a vehicle for control
September 4th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
god gave us manna and manna is good , and manna is a psychedelic mushroom,,,,,, exodus 16
September 4th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
YOU GUYS DO NOT MISS THE POINT. HAVE YOU CONSIDER JESUS A JEW? HE SPEAK TO JEWS NOT TO NON JEWS. SO IF WE ARE GOING TO TAKE AN STAND AGAINST SOME ONE WHO IS GETTING JEWISHNESS, WE WILL HAVE TO KILL THIS JESUS.
THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENNING NOT ONLY IN USA BUT IN ALL AMERICA. WHY? WE ARE DOING GOOD JOB ON ARABS AND MUSLIM WORD. THAT PEOPLE WHERE EVER THEY GO, THEY TRY TO KEEP IT MUSLIM. SEE, HERE IN MEXICO THERE IS A BIG COMUNITY OF MUSLIMS ON THE SOUTH OF THIS COUNTRY. THIS MEANS THAT THEY ARE DOING CONVERTS. WHAT FOR? TO PREPARE THE WORD FOR THE FINALL CONFLICT, A WAR AGAINST TO OPOSITES, JEWS AND ARABS. FINAL CONFLICT, THE MOST OLD OF ALL, WILL BE CUT OFF FOR EVER. 200 BILLION MUSLIMS WILL BE TRAYING TO KILL 10 MILLION JEWS IN ISRAEL, 5 MILLION IN USA AND ABOUT 3 OR 4 MILLION IN OTHER COUNTRIES. BUT WHAT HAPPEN IF WE GOT “NEW JEWISH”? FORCES WILL BE EQUAL AND CRISTIAN COUNTRIES WILL BE INVOLVE. KIDS…. WORLD BE IN A GOOD BIG FIGHT, THE FATHER OF ALL WARS….
September 4th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
I’d like to set the record straight on a couple of things. There is a lot of talk about religion and religion is fake. The definition of religion is merely man’s search for God. That’s why there are so many and its also the reason most of them get it wrong. The label “Christians” is derived from the new testament that describes the Apostles walk with Jesus Christ and trying to shed the material man and be more “Christ” like, hence the term “Christian or Christianity”. Again, a lot of so called “Christians” are following their “Religion” (from whatever) and that’s why a lot them have it wrong as well.
The people who have it right, are the ones that believe in God’s holy word the Bible, from beginning to end, without leaving anything out and without injecting anything of their own. The basics of that are as follows:
1. In the beginning was the word and the word was God.
2. All men have sinned and have come short of the glory of God.
3. You must believe in the trinity, the 3-in-1, God the father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost.
4. Jesus Christ was the son of God, conceived from the virgin Mary, by the Holy Ghost.
5. Jesus Christ came to die on the cross for our sins as atonement for man kind so that all would have the chance of everlasting life with God.
6. No sin can be allowed into Heaven.
7. The only way to God & Heaven is by believing this, accepting Jesus Christ as your personal Lord & Savior.
Finally, live your life by faith according to the scriptures, follow God’s plan to teach and preach the Gospel to all that have an ear.
Christians definition of Faith: The substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen, the knowledge of things to come as prophesied in the Bible, God’s divine and inspired word.
One last thing to remember, we are all human born into sin, we try to follow the word of God, but we are not perfect, only Jesus Christ was perfect. We are sinners saved by grace and that means we will make mistakes. But its not the one who never fails on life’s weary road that will someday hear the Father say enter in. It’s the one who asks God’s daily forgiveness of his/her sins that had the courage to keep believing, trusting for forgiveness of sins, doing the will of the Father, who will pass through the pearly gates.
Get yourselves right with God, regardless of the religious flag your under, if you follow those seven points outlined above, I’ll see you on the other side!
September 4th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Where is your proof of a god other than religious text? That doesn’t make proof. If you monotheists provoke nuclear war and I’m dying from the fallout, I’m going to be one angry son of a bitch. You better all find a rock to hide under. I ain’t lying. I like my life not intruding on anyone and that’s all you bible and koran thumpers have ever done my entire life and I AM SICK OF IT!
September 4th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
“and it hurts to realize your religion is a scam”
do you realize that Alex Jones is a Christian who believes that Jesus 1) EXISTED 2) IS OUR SAVIOUR (he saved us when he gave HIS life for OUR sins on the cross then defeated the enemy and rose from the grave so his body didn’t see decay)
you’re getting information from a Christian who doesn’t believe it’s a lie.
September 4th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
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September 4th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Palin claims to understand The Bible. Since so many are interested in Israel and what future prophesy holds, you might find this quite interesting. God does have the last say, eh? Pro-Israel people, I did not write a word of what is below. Just interesting. It is so Old Testament but it is the parallel of the 3rd prophecy of Lucia. Who is the man with the writer’s case?
Scripture Passage from Ezekiel that parallels 3rd Part of Secret of Fatima: (August 18, 2000)
“Then he cried loud for me to hear: Come, you scourges of the city! With that I saw six men coming from the direction of the upper gate which faces the north, each with a destroying weapon in his hand. In their midst was a man dressed in linen, with a writer’s case at his waist. They entered and stood beside the bronze altar. Then he called to the man dressed in linen with the writer’s case at his waist, saying to him: Pass through the city (through Jerusalem) and mark an X on the foreheads of those who moan and groan over all the abominations that are practiced within it. To the others I heard him say: Pass through the city after him and strike! Do not look on them with pity nor show any mercy! Old men, youths and maidens, women and children–wipe them out! But do not touch any marked with the X; begin at my sanctuary. So they began with the men (the elders) who were in front of the temple. Defile the temple, he said to them, and fill the courts with the slain; then go out and strike in the city.
As they began to strike, I was left alone. I fell prone, crying out, Alas, Lord GOD! Will you destroy all that is left of Israel when you pour out your fury on Jerusalem?” He answered me: The sins of the house of Israel are great beyond measure; the land is filled with bloodshed, the city with lawlessness. They think that the LORD has forsaken the land, that he does not see them. I, however, will not look upon them with pity, nor show any mercy. I will bring down their conduct upon their heads.” [Ezekiel 9:1-10]
September 4th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
“Where is your proof of a god other than religious text?”
every part of creation has design. I also believe that a spiritual realm exists and people see evidence of it everyday (aliens, ufo’s, ghosts, demons), the spiritual realm is more real than the physical realm. the people who are going to look the most foolish when the illuminati get their way and the anti christ takes control of the world, causes fire to fall from the sky, makes eveyone worship him are atheists.
September 4th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
KOOLCAT POLL
WHAT IS SARAH PALIN GOOD FOR? the missionary position, just ask MCCain. Vote
Would you tak4 PALIN to bed? yes or no and why
September 4th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Dung daemon, what do you beleive happens to you when you die, nothing!!! You might wanna reintegrate your belief system. I would read the word of the lord. It literally grows in your heart, and opens your mind to the truths we all need to know. I pray for you, and all my other enemies in JESUS name!!I love you guys, cause you show me I am on the right side. Thanks.
September 4th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
I have always been amazed at the idea that religion starts wars. It is the same mindset that the idea of America is war, when it is just the people in control of America, and not the American people at all. Since the year 1900 to 2000. there hasn’t been more killings between humans ever in recorded history, and not one of them is a Christian war. All of them are to destroy Christianity, even the American wars. Atheism is the main call for war, one man worship. People like, Hitler, Pot, American bankers, Saddam. All of it is non-religious.
If people would actually study the epistemology of the people behind these wars, you would realize it is all anti-God. Our country is a Christian based country, but not the way it is run now, with the Federal Reserve and the secret government. Do yourself a favor and get a dictionary from the 1800’s, there your will find the definition of words, and under the definition you will find court cases, and almost all the court cases decided on how to define a word by looking a scripture. Go and learn about John Calvin, and then complain about Alex Jones being a Christian. Only a Christian can do good.
September 4th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
She said she was going to washington to “serve” the people. Well, we all know who the “people” are and who the goyim are. All four so-called canidates sound exactly alike to me. They’re gonna do whatever the shadow “people” tell them to do. We are so f---ed.
September 4th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
I think the Neo propaganda machine has brainwashed the sheep again.
They know very very very well how to use simple words to effect the sheep!
All totally meaningless! And once in power continue to do as they wish!
It’s really disgusting to watch the mass brain washing!
Now all the press is abuzz with Sarah.. She said things in her speech like “I’m a pit-bull with lipstick” The line is all over the press now! They are showing video of her in Alaska (hunting,fishing, etc.) Of course all this has nothing to do with policy or the fast decline of the US.. But it is so effective on the sheep who can see no farther than their front yard! They just see a “good ol’ girl” who reminds them of them-self! And again will flush their future down the toilet (VOLUNTARILY)
September 4th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
For one, I can’t understand or really deal with the complete BS of these political conventions. What totally amazed me was that over 37,000,000 people watched Palin give her very average political address as if she was the Second Coming. Second, even watching the crap on C-SPAN is intolerable because it is all scripted and rehearsed. Moreover, I knew there was so much illegal arresting and detention going on outside.
So what did people miss? Excellent tennis. Serena and Venus Williams played phenomenally, and Serena won bringing her into the semifinals of the US Open. Rafael Nadal played a very consistent and ultimately winning game against Mardy Fish, advancing him to the semis. Andy Murray from Scotland played the formidable Juan Martin Del Potro of Argentina who is a total newcomer to the world tennis scene. This was all incredibly exciting to watch and share with friends.
Meanwhile, 37,000,000 people watched Sarah Palin (God’s will to war against Iraq) give a total spin speech authored for her from the best speechwriters the RNC could buy. Imho, this country lacks priorities. All the good stuff about what head bashing happened outside the Convention by the goons and the impact on the country was all here on Infowars to read and catch up on. It has to be fluoridation.
Life has too many analogies to sports. Nadal and Fish could battle it our for hours into the early morning and walk away shaking hands and two very equally matched sisters played a phenomenal game of tennis against each other. Serena had nothing but kind comments for Venus. Meanwhile, in Minnesota it was a masochistic blood sport of police against reporters and innocent citizens.
People need to learn from sports. Police are first on the list to learn what being a good sport is all about.
September 4th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
It is written…
“And when he was come into Jerusalem, all the city was moved, saying, Who is this?
And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee.
And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple,
and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,
And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have
made it a den of thieves.
And the blind and the lame came to him in the temple; and he healed them.
And when the chief priests and scribes saw the wonderful things that he did, and the children
crying in the temple, and saying, Hosanna to the son of David; they were sore displeased..”
(THE HOLY BIBLE, KING JAMES VERSION, MATTHEW 21, 10-15)
The Messiah moves henceforth to the temple, the religious center of all the land, and in the
solitary documented display of fury, disrupts the profiteering associated with what he reveres as
as house of prayer. He then proceeds to heal those who cannot see for themselves and those
who cannot walk on their own. The children cry in praise, for, presumedly, they too can now
see and walk like never before.
The Messiah brings a strong message of reform, of healing, but the chief priests and scribes,
rather than succombing to the prophecies of the Torah, cling to the traditions of the Talmud
and become bitter in their disgrace rather than humble in the honor of the presence of the
Messiah.
The chief priests were “sore displeased”, and so would be forever onward.
Some things really pissed Jesus off. Learn about the Pharisees. Look at youe Priests, Ministers, and Rabbis. Look at your government. Look at the world. Look at YOURSELF.
Make of it what you will.
PS – It seems the coming of the Messiah fulfills the prophecies of the old testament and opens the new convenant. “Israel” stands, biblically, in this regard. I might check the crap my “church” has been feeding me; I don’t see where Jesus Christ advocates killing anyone, even though millions have done so in his name already.
What am I saying? 9/11 WAS AN NWO JOB!
And even your faith has been manipulated.
September 4th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
I thought that Sarah Palin behaved like “Mystery Babylon, mother of harlets” at the RNC. Support of Israel does not mean the unlawful murder of civilians for oil bankers and their dirty wars in arabic influenced countries. I hope she repents.
At the RNC, she fear mongered Al Queda and made a propaganda poster child out of her son leaving for Iraq. Very sad. I wanna here her talk about 9-11 being an inside job and getting America and Israel’s rogue intelligence agencies under some kind of accountability.
I like her pro-life stand and exposure of the supression of Alaska’s oil reserves but, oil is really only good for plastics and demolitions. Real energy answers are in cold electricity technology. See some illuminati supressed energy technology at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGg0ATfoBgo.
It seems like politicians tell lies to cover up a web of more lies!
September 4th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
The bottom line is it doesnt matter what you believe, the President and his staff is suppose to represent all of us, not just a few, thats what America is about. So why all the religious disagreement, who cares.
There is no separation between state and religion, thats the problem.
September 4th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
The bottom line is it doesnt matter what you believe, the President and his staff is suppose to represent all of us, not just a few, thats what America is about. So why all the religious disagreement, who cares.
There is no separation between state and religion, thats the problem. I dont care what Alex Jones believes, he can believe what he wants. Alex Jones is a cool guy, he keeps his eye on the ball and makes the Constitution the issue, I like that.
September 4th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
I have kept my mouth shut to this point about “the Big Elephant in the room” aka, the Jewish plank.
The issue is now unavoidable and heading towards irrecoverably THE END TIMES.
It does not matter what YOU consider or even believe at this point!
Ultimately, your vote this year is nothing more than a guarantee of the continued special treatment of Israel and the creation of Armageddon.
I would really hate for History to have to repeat itself, but ask yourself this question……………..
“Do I really support the actions of the State of Israel?”
***ALL Infowarriors must watch; YouTUBE= “Missing Links, Version 2.0.” Once you have watched this film, then you can understand the relationship between “Peak-Oil” and US support of Israel.
!VIVA la REVOLUTION!
September 4th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
That’s right Eric.
“Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.” (Psalm 2:1-3)
The real conspiracy is against God. What Alex Jones is missing in all of this, is pointing people to the only hope any human being has – Jesus Christ. He is the Saviour of the world and in Him we can have peace with God.
September 4th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
That’s just great.
And the bible says we must, as Christians, defend Israel above all else in the final days.
I can say there is no doubt where this headed.
They may not preach it out loud, because to do so would violate separation of church & state laws. So they will think it and plan it, based upon defending Israel as an aspect of their religious committment and use more appropriate and politically correct words to explain their foreign policy.
In such a case, I am sure the evangelists belive it’s OK to lie and be deceptive in this way, because they believe they are working for God’s CIA and have secret clearance to lie to America and the world about what they are actually going to be up to and WHY!!!
This makes sense, right, fighting fire with fire when one is on the side of the Lord?
September 4th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
WOW! You guys are geniuses!! Hitler and the Nazi’s were right! Our grandfathers were so stupid for stopping Hiltler in his valient fight against Zionism and the NWO. Duh, Grandpa!
Thank you so much for opening my eyes!! ……idiots
September 4th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
#65
Of course Jesus wanted to save us, who shouldn’t?
~mlh
September 4th, 2008 at 8:03 pm
The supposed link between political Zionism and Christian evangelicalism is spurious.
I do NOT contest that the U.S. may be securing Israel, but are we securing Israel for Torah-observant Jews and Protestant Christians?
As I understood it, the world government would like to give their input, regarding the use of the Temple Mount.
The Bible does not say anywhere that the U.S. MUST defend Israel. It does say that a world leader will esteem himself as higher than the Living God in the rebuilt temple.
I’m gonna be really politically incorrect here, but also keep in mind what the Bible says about women being in authority over men. How she prophetically ascertains what God’s will is, in any given political situation, I would like to know.
At any rate, you atheists ought to be done with telling us what a good example of Christianity she is, if you’re going by The Book.
September 4th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Genesis 12:1-3
Joel 3:1-3
Malachi 4:6
Romans 11:25-27
Read these passages from the infallible King James Bible and you’ll see why Palin has an Israel flag, supports Israel (when it is not against American interest to do so) and why she has been so blessed in her life.
I love patriots but you dopes preaching against Israel are the worst enemies of the American people. Have some common sense. You can support Israel and speak out when they are wrong at the SAME time.
September 4th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
BrotherG Says: quote:”I love patriots but you dopes preaching against Israel are the worst enemies of the American people. Have some common sense. You can support Israel and speak out when they are wrong at the SAME time.”
You are a first class fool BrotherG…you bible thumpers are the the main thing wrong with this nation. Your thought process has been made usless by some form of religion that was created for one reason. That reason being to control the fools of the world and after reading your BS no one can deny it. Religion has no place in American politics and neither does Israel. You can’t be for Israel and be for freedom…the two don’t got together at all…and I don’t know if Mrs Palin is pro-Israel of netural…but I do believe she would put America first which you bible toters don’t!
September 4th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Romans 11 is about the failures and blindness of Israel being a pre-requisite condition to the coming of the Messiah who will avail himself to all people, who will deliver all who seek him.
Genesis, Joel, and Malachi are the old covenant. Jesus fulfilled the old covenant and brought the new covenant.
It is written that the meek shall inherit the earth. Who are we to judge what is blessed? Jesus told us what is blessed.
Judge no lest ye be judged yourself.
September 4th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
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Consensus cracking begins.
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resource burn
trolling
distract and disrupt
continual and non-related discussion
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and finally………………………………………….
anger trolling
never fails.
If you want to fight the good fight, you need the proper “tools”
Feel free to keep this list handy when you jump into the ring.
I like the Scandinavian God FREY myself. You are free to worship as you will.
September 4th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Real Zionism is a belief that the Jewish homeland is Israel a desire to live there, and a move to live on the land of the Jewish ancestors. BTW Israel is SMALLER than New Jersey. The PUSH for a PA state (another Muslim state, there are already 22 in the mideast alone – and which take up about 100X more land than Israel) is being pushed by the IMF, World Bank, and the rest of the NWO. If you believe that everything the NWO does is wrong, and needs to be questioned – then a PA state is wrong, and needs to be questioned. Just because the NWO is helping the terrorists to do better at terrorism, does not mean that they aren’t terrorists! Froogle “UNRWA mishandling”. Just because the secret governments helped the terrorists topple the Trade Center does not mean they didn’t want to do it in the first place. Wake up.
September 4th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
Off-Topic:
Anyone notice that at least three blatant personal foul penalties in the Giants-Skins game received no flags tonight? Seems like the game was influenced by the networks, being sped along to get to the frickin’ McCAIN speech which immediately followed.. Now, you can bomb the twin towers and the pentagon, but when you mess with football, you’ve gone too far.
September 4th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Henry et al, Real Zionism is a belief that the Jewish homeland is Israel, a desire to live there, and a move to live on the land of the Jewish ancestors. BTW Israel is SMALLER than New Jersey. The PUSH for a PA state (another Muslim state – there are already 22 in the mideast alone which take up about 100X more land than Israel) is being pushed by the IMF, World Bank, and the rest of the NWO. If you believe that everything the NWO does is wrong, and needs to be questioned – then a PA state is wrong, and needs to be questioned. Just because the NWO is helping the terrorists to do better terrorism, does not mean that they aren’t terrorists! Froogle “UNRWA mishandling”. Just because the secret governments helped the terrorists topple the Trade Center towers does not mean that the terrorists didn’t want to do it in the first place. Wake up.
September 4th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
Israel was driven out of the land twice in unbelief… and are we so dumb that we believe that we can help restore them to the land in unbelief? Sure, they will get restored to the land in God’s time, but only in BELIEF that Jesus is LORD! This must happen over the ashes of the current political entity of Israel.
We who are Christians have the mandate to evangelize, but have in general supplanted this mandate with ZIONISM! Christian Zionism is a false doctrine that has invaded virtually all Christian (including nominal christian) churches and parachurch ministries. I used to be one of them…
September 4th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Alex I know you believe in the Bible.
When are you going to start believing in “I will bless them that bless them thee (the Jews) and curse them that curse thee (the Jews)”.
Forget about Israel and their elitist traitorous government which DOES need to be replaced.
If you don’t support the survival of the six millions Jews there you are brining a curse upon yourself and your country.
September 4th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Deadeye – Do you realize that both the Christian and Moslem religions are off-shoots of Judaism? And like a lot of disrespectful children they want to trash and kill it instead of respecting it? Judaism says, just let us be Jewish and be whatever religion you want to be. However, the Koran and the Christian Testament want to make everybody into them. Maybe they are both so unsure of themselves that if everyone isn’t them, then they do not feel justified in who they are…
September 4th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Unholyjake wrote:
“…you bible thumpers are the the main thing wrong with this nation.”
Really? It seems to me the forefathers, the founders of this nation you live in, thought God and religion were pretty important and were in fact what you’d call a ‘bible thumper’. You must be pretty young and/or gone through public school recently to have missed that.
Maybe you are what is wrong with America my friend.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
Zionism is the movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland.
The foundations of Zionism are:
1. The unity of the Jewish people, its bond to its historic homeland Eretz Yisrael, and the centrality of the State of Israel and Jerusalem, its capital, in the life of the nation;
2. Aliyah to Israel from all countries and the effective integration of all immigrants into Israeli Society.
3. Strengthening Israel as a Jewish, Zionist and democratic state and shaping it as an exemplary society with a unique moral and spiritual character, marked by mutual respect for the multi-faceted Jewish people, rooted in the vision of the prophets, striving for peace and contributing to the betterment of the world.
4. Ensuring the future and the distinctiveness of the Jewish people by furthering Jewish, Hebrew and Zionist education, fostering spiritual and cultural values and teaching Hebrew as the national language;
5. Nurturing mutual Jewish responsibility, defending the rights of Jews as individuals and as a nation, representing the national Zionist interests of the Jewish people, and struggling against all manifestations of anti-Semitism.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
I watched her speech the other night and I was almost certain that she was wearing an Israeli pendant on her collar. I thought to myself, “no, she wouldn’t do that at the convention.” I really can’t tell. I’ve zoomed in on a couple of pics but it’s fuzzy. Does anyone know what the logo is on her pendant?
September 4th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
Suri, the only people who you believe have proven what you say are anti-semites! Like YOU!
September 4th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Yes Really Truth, so it set out to be and they are being obedient up to a point, until they start running rough shod over the rest of the world to protect it. Also, the Jews have to yet realize that ultimately God will do the protecting of Israel and will keep a remnant of them safe through the worst days of the coming NWO Tribulation (sponsored by the anti-christ). That’s part of the Covenant He has with them. But even those last hold outs in the Holy Land are gonna have to realize and recognize Jesus Christ is THEIR Saviour too at the point of His Second Coming or they are as lost as the rest of the unsaved.
I wish to also clarify that I realize true Zionism in its pure Godly intention is the faithful and noble cause of the Jewish people to keep their end of the Covenant with The Lord. But, alas, too many of the wealthy and politically empowered of this sect have become morally debased and have wrought division and hatred and havoc especially in the Middle East. Unfortunately, these bad apples among the Zionists have given themselves a bad name. If I’ve offended anyone in this post, I apologize, but haven’t we all had those poignant moments when the truth hurts? So, get a life and get an afterlife through Jesus Christ…He’s the only Way !!!
September 4th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
You!, Above:Ignorance of the LAW and SCRIPTURES is SHOWING:
1st. Caucasian, primarily means Israelite, Gentiles means, for the most part, Israelite, the Celts or Scots were the Sythians were also Israelites, the Gotts, the Allens, the Dan ite!Etcetera.
JESUS Was an Israelite, Moses was an Israelite, Jacob was the first Israelite, his father Isaac, and his father was Abraham, who was Abram, who also had a son named Ishmael, by Hagar, his wife’s mistress. David was an Israelite, the King of Israelites and later also Judah a brother tribe became joined to Israel and Israelite;When King David, being of vast intelligence merged Egypt, “Phoenecia” (means “red bearded man in Greek”)(Sidon and Tyre) and her sea going culture with Israel;And they regularly visited global ports of call, including Americas.
2nd. There is no race called Jew! There are of the tribes of Israelites called Judah, Benjamin, Levi, and mixed with mostly Khazar, Edomite or Mongel leaderships. Global positioning combined efforts and coordinated planning has allowed they largely influence commerce through control of monetary and other key powers globally.
3rd. The term “Jew” refers to a particular sect or church (synagogue) and has adopted the ancient Hebrew language. Very much like the Kuku bird, these wish to mislead true Israel as heathen, and for the most part, their peagan rituals of spring and winter festivals after false and abominable festivals such as Saturnalia after(Saturn or Satan) whom as(Molech)roasts and feasts upon bastard children newborns born from their frolicking in springtime in groves wildly ritually with Easter Festival after Astar (Ashtarr) another false god, whose used to lust and fertility rites.
4th. The true GOD ALMIGHTY called Allah by tribes of Eshmael(Arabs) called Jesus Christ, by Christians, etcetera. We are called to keeping the *Sabbaths, keeping The (My) Passover, Autumn Harvest Thanksgiving! God’s favored Servant Peoples, & accompanyments for Blessings!
*The Seventh Day, “least of The Commandments”, instituted by LORD God. Not ever reinstituted to Sun day, but by a lie told by the Roman Catholic Church by Constantine abo 300 AD. Mandatory then, after dark ages (Roman persecution and plagues) Protestant against Rome, never pleaded God accept true Sabbath worship of Christians, and why not all Christians? Why doesn’t The Vatican now remedy that old curse and error?
5th. Obtain The Lost Ten Tribes of Israel Found By Steven M. Collins, available at israelite.info
By the way,the Holy Scriptures indicate portent, portend of future events, and allegorical and metaphorically, the future unfolds just as is written from thousands of years ago, the indwelling of God by the hand of man. Scripture would ask of me why I even take moments of my life share truth awareness? I say they are part of me that laggards, the lovelorn, lost, “put away in punishment, literally” from LORD Jesus Christ! So because they are “a cake that is not turned”(half-baked, mushy or no truthful character) as their oven being ancient had no damper, and the servant forgot turn the cake. So I will just turn them this once.
6th. Called by a new name, “Christians” but what does that word mean to you? A virgin with a lamp with no oil, is still in the dark! If god initially told you not eat pork, do you eat pork now because he hasn’t reminded you verbally lately? No! Eat no unclean thing! I personally prefer smoked turkey bacon on occasion.
Now can we get back to the 911 truth? The seventh-anniversary, the crimes, demonstration in 6 days! Takin’ it to the streets! Visit your local representatives office if nothing else! Give some dvds and words! Prayer before and after meals, rest, actions of adventure in God’s Service, if you want to succeed! Why with the infinate, is my way, I pray, every day every way rough or good.
The Alpha and Omega’s service.
Believe in God, or No? I would say, better just to shut up and accept any blessings!If He knocks, would you open the door?
Behave.
September 4th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
As a Bible-believing Christian, i can assuredly say that nowhere in Scripture is the mandate given that the nation of Israel must be supported unconditionally. This is a false doctrine unfortunately espoused by most American “Christians.” (The quotes are most definitely intentional.)
Paul the Apostle, a JEW, made it clear that national Israel is simply that, a nation. They have no special claim to the protection or blessings of God (Romans 9) especially when they did not repent and trust Jesus Christ.
The misconception that national Israel is to be supported/”blessed” by Christians regardless of their faith totally ignores the New Testament book of Galatians. The supposed “blessing/cursing” that most evangelicals reference is from Genesis (the promise to Abraham that “those who bless you, I will bless…those who curse you I will curse”). However, the New Testament establishes that it is Christians (who Paul claims are the “true sons of Abraham”) to whom this promise is given.
Christians in America ought to actually READ and BELIEVE the Bible on which they CLAIM to base their beliefs.
September 4th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
We all love Israel for eternity !!!!
September 4th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Jesus calls tthe False Jews (hypocrites)…Synagogue of Satan…they are liars and murderers.
September 4th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
As an Alaskan resident, I’m not too proud of the politicans coming from my state. From Senator Ted Steven’s scandal to Representative Don Young’s funding of a “pork barrel” project in Florida!!!
Now we have Gov. Sarah Palin as the choice for Vice President under Senator John McCain. What interesting times we’re living in!!!! However, as an Iraq War Veteran, I’m greatly offended by the statement Palin made about the Iraq war is a “mission from God” for our soldiers before a congregation at a church in Wasilla. Despite, the fact she believes the Iraq war is about oil!! Palin, in this regard, is no different than President George W. Bush when claimed that God told him to
invade Iraq. Despite, the fact Bush himself admitted Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with the attacks of 9/11!!!! I’m wondering what is with these people!!!! What “god” do they truly worship!!! It certainly isn’t Jesus Christ. Because the bible says he is the “Prince of Peace” and is for reconciliation not conflict and division. Jesus Christ also stated he is the truth and the life and that no man comes to the Father but by him. Meaning he would never approve of a war (mass murder) based on lies (such as WMD’s, links to Al-Qaeda, etc.). Nor the theft of oil or the torturing of foreign citizens by the C.I.A. and private companies like CACI and Titan. Not to mention, “War
Profiteering” by Haliburton, Blackwater, and defense contractors in which the bible states “the LOVE OF MONEY is the ROOT of ALL EVIL.” In fact, this so-called “War On Terror” is nothing more than a modern-day version of the Crusade’s and Spanish Inquisition. It was at that time too that in Catholic-dominated western Europe that those causes were a “divine mission from God” stated by the Pope of Rome to capture Jerusalem from the Moslems and weed out “heretics”. Only Satan, the Devil (Lucifier), would use deception, theft, and murder (along with fear and confusion) to enslave the world!!! So knowing this Mrs. Palin, Bush, and the other millions of so-called evangelicals who claim to be true Christians need to both seriously reexamine their beliefs and REPENT or be lost for eternity!!!!
September 4th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
Thou shalt not kill.
Love thy neighbor.
Simple stuff. If I can’t get past that, what business have I leaving my house, let alone meddling in foreign affairs? By what miserable twist of wickedness has the principles of Christ been altered into a bloodlust, a saber-rattling, and a megalomaniacal perversion?
Everything about me that leads me to violate the commandments and the additional challenges to my nature as prescribed by Jesus (such as ‘love thy neighbor’) are clear indications where I am out of line in spirit.
Jesus did not come to teach me how to try to be righteous and then go on and be wrong-teous.
It is written:
..Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
You see, as it had been when the Romans last sacked Jerusalem and scaterred the Pharisees off to Babylon, is how it remains. So many speak falsely and misrepresent the word of Jesus; the wicked legacy is ancient, the trail of blood is equalled only by the trail of tears and exceeded only by measures of gold, pride, and fear.
By what miserable twist of wickedness?
September 5th, 2008 at 12:18 am
Sherlock 008, Judaism is not a “sect” it is a religion. Do you read the Torah or ONLY the Christian testament? Christianity is based on Judaism. If you read the Torah you will see the Jesus cannot possibly be accepted by Jewish people as a messiah. He fulfilled NONE of the requirements. Not even ONE. I respect that you want to be a Christian, please stop trying to convert the rest of the World. G-d loves us all, we do not need to be the same.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:36 am
The way I understand it, Jesus raled against the Pharisees for standing fast to the spoken tradition of the Babylonian Talmud, discarding the written word of God in the Torah. The legalistic approach that the Pharisees derived in conjunction with the Babylonian wisdom was at the heart of so many disagreements between Jesus and the Pharisees that it became the dividing line between the religions. Judaism is Talmudic, Christianity has nothing to do with that.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:47 am
ivanpistov, your idea of what the Talmud is, and what the Talmud says are mistaken. If you get your information from hate sites, then you cannot expect correct information. The Priests who were in in charge of the Temple during Jesus’s time were appointed by the Rulers/Usurpers who were NOT Jewish. Many of the Priests themselves were NOT Jewish either (they were put there to try and control the Jewish people who have an innate aversion to slavery) , however the Jewish people were told that they had to have them there or the Temple would not be available. If you read the Torah and the Chumash (the rest of the Jewish Bible besides the 5 books/Torah) you will see that most of the quotes attributed to Jesus came from Isaiah and Jeremiah. Jesus was quoting them, because Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi! Just be a good Christian and let the Jewish people be good Jews. Again, G-d loves us all.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:09 am
Jesus lived as a Jew and had died as a Jew. The very life of Jesus shows us all that for a true Christian Jews should be Jewish and not converted to Christianity. Christians who believe in Jesus should help the Jews, the Zionists and Israel flourish, to make the biblical prophecy comes true though for the Messiah comes.
Christianity is the lot-Judaism for gentiles, the light to all nations!!!!
September 5th, 2008 at 1:11 am
Who is Israel???? Israel is now the body of believers in Christ, and has nothing to do with the land or the counterfit nation this country supports.
Romans:9:6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.”[b] 8In other words, it is not the natural children who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.
Romans:9:30What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith; 31but Israel, who pursued a law of righteousness, has not attained it. 32Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works. They stumbled over the “stumbling stone.” 33As it is written:
“See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes men to stumble
and a rock that makes them fall,
and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame
Romans: 10: 11As the Scripture says, “Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame.”[e] 12For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”[f]
September 5th, 2008 at 1:17 am
“He fulfilled NONE of the requirements”
then why did he attract such a huge following in Israel at the time ? even the 12 apostles studied torah throughout their lives and knew what it said concerning the messiah.
how many Jews live in Bethlehem today ? either a couple or none because of its large muslim population.
what about “the stone that the BUILDERS REJECTED (the builders would probably be the Jews) has become the capstone and it is marvelous in our eyes” Jesus claimed to be the DOOR when he said he is the truth life and the way. the REJECTED CAPSTONE has become the GATE through which the righteous may enter through. the sacrifices made by Jews in the temple were just a COVERING.
Zechariah talks about someone endowed with salvation riding on a colt, Jesus did that into Jerusalem with salvation.
Zechariah talks about STRIKING THE SHEPARD and the SHEEP WOULD BE SCATTERED.
around the time Jesus was crucified the temple was destroyed, the jewish people left Jerusalem.
and this is all assuming you ignore most of what Isiah and psalms says about the messiah.
Isiah through the suffering servant through his death and resurrection salvation would come to the ends of the world. that happened with Jesus
Jesus was a descendant of king david he was born in BETHLEHEM JUDAH THE CITY OF DAVID.
Jesus even had a messenger John the baptist pointing the way to the messiah.
the messiah is called a man of sorrows who is rejected of men. the messiah is cut off before the destruction of the second temple.
and what about the scriptures that talk about a very evil man rising up and pretending to be god in the end times right before the messiah comes back ? THAT’S ANOTHER TEST
the messiah is called the Prince of Peace (Isa. 9:6); the counterfeit a wicked, profane Prince (Ezek. 21:25).
Antichrist will yet be Israel’s great high priest (Ezek. 21:26).
Dan 9:27, “And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease” when did that happen ?
counterfeit will introduce an era of peace (Dan. 11:21)
DANIEL 11:35-37 “Some of the wise people will be defeated in order to refine, purify, and make them white until the END TIMES. But the appointed time is still to come.
And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall EXALT HIMSELF, and magnify himself above EVERY GOD, and shall SPEAK MARVELOUS THINGS against the God of gods, and shall prosper TILL THE INDIGNATION BE ACCOMPLISHED: for that that is determined shall be done.
Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all
DANIEL 11:40 “AT THE END TIME the king of the South will collide with him, and the king of the North will storm against him with chariots, with horsemen and with many ships; and he will enter countries, overflow them and pass through
DANIEL 12:1 “Now AT THAT TIME Michael, the great prince who stands guard over the sons of your people, will arise. And there will be a time of distress such as NEVER OCCURED SINCE THERE WAS A NATION until that time; AND AT THAT TIME YOUR PEOPLE, EVERYONE WHO IS FOUND IN THE BOOK, WILL BE RESCUED. Many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt.
That’s when the messiah comes back and the messianic age starts. so there is an evil counterfeit messiah coming before the real one does but Christians are the only ones prepared for him.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:19 am
Check out this site:
http://www.christianzionism.org/Articles.asp
September 5th, 2008 at 1:23 am
the gospel according to mark, Israel is the Jewish people, period! Christians are NOT Israel. The 12 tribes are Israel. Be a Christian, good for you, but do NOT claim that you are the descendants that G-d talks about in the 5 books of Moses! Stop being a disrespectful and dishonoring child. Those who curse will be cursed, those who bless will be blessed.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:26 am
Zechariah 11:12-13:
I told them, “If you think it best, give me my pay; but if not, keep it.” So they paid me thirty pieces of silver.
13 And the LORD SAID to me, “Throw it to the potter”-the handsome price at which THEY PRICED ME ! So I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw them into the house of the LORD to the potter.
Zechariah 12:10:
“And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.
“What is the cause of the mourning (Zechariah 12:10)? It is well according to him who explains that the cause is the slaying of Messiah, the son of Joseph, as it is written, ‘And they shall look upon me whom they have pierced; and they shall mourn for him as one mourneth for his only son.’” -Babylonian Talmud, Sukkah 52a
September 5th, 2008 at 1:32 am
Jacob’s sons become the 12 tribes of Israel
the 13th son was Joeseph who was rejected by his brothers and left to die
the 13th son Joseph later rescues his 12 brothers.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:42 am
here we go with the semantics that deepen the mystery
anyone who is a “good” anything is fine with me. leave me to my liberty and i leave you to yours, and as such i would expect america to behave.
my concern, and i guess it’s for little more than amusement at this point, is identifying the wicked of the world, because i hate to be deceived above all else. that good, torah jews exist is beyond question. i find an interesting line, however, from babylon to pharisees to babylon to khazars to illuminati to marxists to neocons that stinks of the “synagogue of satan” and resembles “mystery babylon”.. it intrigues me in a “know thy enemy” way. it’s not my war, of course, it’s only for me to hold fast against deception. vengeance is the lord’s. the wrath is his.
perhaps what i had read about the talmud was another deception; our world is riddled with it. had i mis-spoke, i apologize. i offered my understanding as it was. it does not change the fact that we concur on the wicked of the pharisees, and it is where their legacy extends to that we must beware. it is my sense that the nature of the deception the pharisees imposed upon judea is no different than that which the world suffers this day.
it’s not a “jew” thing, it a pharisee thing. similarly, it just may be a zionist thing. whatever it is, thou shalt not kill and love thy neighbor. thanks for the reply. anything you can teach us about the talmud will surely be appreciated.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:46 am
Awake Says: “Jesus calls tthe False Jews (hypocrites)…Synagogue of Satan…they are liars and murderers.”
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You are right. That’s why we have to love the real Jews, the Zionists, who with their enthusiasm bring light, freedom and redemption to us all.
All the false Jews that hypocrite themselves to be the Jews’ successors by the name of Jewsus are dooming the world for more disasters, lies, murders and mental hurricanes.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:16 am
Mike & Gospel…
Who was Pierced in Zechariah 12:10?
Was Jesus’ crucifixion prophesied in the Book of Zechariah? Jews for Jesus thinks so. Learn how the Book of John went so far as to alter the Zechariah’s own words in order to support his Passion story.
http://outreachjudaism.org/mp3.....%20new.mp3
September 5th, 2008 at 2:26 am
Ivanpistov (122): ” it’s not a “jew” thing, it a pharisee thing. similarly, it just may be a zionist thing.”
You are trying to keep the historical tactics of the church to “divide and control” the Jews, in order to win the “battle of serving the God”, as Christianity sees that. Christianity feels that if not all humans are Christians it fails it’s mission and the Messiah will not come, who ever that Messiah is.
You have to understand Ivanpistov, you can’t take other people’s belief and turn it to be your weapon to kill him – ” Hast thou killed, and also taken possessions?” !!!!
September 5th, 2008 at 3:08 am
What, is anyone surprise dthis woman is an agent of the zionists/ NWO?
Next you’ll surprise me by telling me that Obama’s change might not be a good kind of ‘change.’
13*
September 5th, 2008 at 3:48 am
i’m on no mission abe. fear nothing. i’m not out to control the world, let alone palestine, my neighborhood, the woman in my life, nothing. i have ideas and i’m bouncing them around. mine is a spiritual quest, not a war room of strategy, not a chessboard of “tactics”.
i’m not involved with any “church”. i detest religion. seems ironic i’m sure. i’ve been led astray. i’m sure, master tactician you are, that you understand fully.
this is a board for christians place in zionism, and more specifically how that plays into the executive office of the us government.
i don’t think christianity has a place in zionism. i dont think christianity has a place in us federal government. i dont think us federal government has a place in zionism.
none of these things have anything to do with personal feeling toward jewish people. i grew up in metro nyc. grew up amongst jews. had jewish friends. played sports, partied, went to school with jews. had jewish girlfriends. worked with jews. nothing personal. also knew some jews that were anti-zion. we all have opinions.
this entire site is a 9/11 truth site and blossoms out into the the corruption that masterminds such atrosity. it is investigative and inquisitive. it seeks out the wicked in the world and calls for justice. i seek not to “divide and control” jews or anyone else; i seek a source of wicked. i saw those towers burn. i lost a friend in there.
just as i cannot state much rightly about the talmud.. for my place in this argument was amongst christian-zionists anyway.. you are out of bounds in stating that “Christians it fails it’s mission and the Messiah will not come”; that is absurd. Ridiculous. As far as the New Testament is concerned, Christ is coming, period. The mission is to spread the word around the world, and that was done long ago. Other things must happen in God’s time, as prophecised.
“similarly, it just may be a zionist thing.” keyword = “may”
this is a fantastic dialogue. thank you very much.
September 5th, 2008 at 3:53 am
Anti-Semitism, the hatred of the Jewish people. Millions upon millions of Jews have been killed due to Anti-Semitism. Adolph Hitler may epitomize the Anti-Semite, but he is only one of many leaders among world history who have tried to destroy the Jewish people. Among those leaders, one cannot ignore that many were of the Christian faith, who killed Jews for their beliefs. For instance, many people do not realize that in the Crusades, the marching crusaders wiped out thousands of Jews in their travels, even though the Jewish people were not their enemies. Over centuries, popes, bishops, priests and other Christian leaders have taken their turn decrying the Jewish people, spreading lies about the Jewish people, calling for their death and spurring on pogroms (church and state-sponsored attacks against the Jewish people), all in the “name of Jesus.” Most Jews at least know some of this history of hatred created by the Church, so is this why Jews do not accept Jesus? Is it learning that Jews died because Jesus that stops Jews from converting? If you read many Messianic Jewish sites, the answer given is “yes”. They clearly state that Anti-Semitism is the core reason why Jews do not accept Jesus. But, are they correct in their claims? Actually, a brief review of history shows that their claims are false.
Jews do not accept Jesus as their Messaiah, based on the Bible:
1. The Messiah must have a birth father (adoptive father and/or mother does not qualify) who is a descendant of King David, through his son King Solomon (2 Samuel 7:12-13)
2. G-d states in the Bible that G-d is not a human (Numbers 23:19, Hoshea 11:9)
3. The Messiah will be preceded by Elijah the Prophet (Malachi 3:23). Messianic Judaism-Christianity claim that John the Baptist was “like an Elijah”, but the Bible is clear that it will be Elijah himself who will come. Moreover, John the Baptist was born just before Jesus, while Elijah never actually died in the Bible; he was carried to Heaven in a chariot of fire (2 Kings 2:14).
4. Jesus did not fulfill major Messianic prophecies such as world peace (Isaiah 2: 2-4), the gathering of all of the Jews into the land of Israel (Isaiah 11:12) and the rebuiling of the Holy Temple (Ezekiel 37:26 – 27)
These are just a few reasons why the Jewish people have not accepted Jesus, below are links to sites that review the topic in more details.
September 5th, 2008 at 4:12 am
Anti-Semitism, the hatred of the Jewish people. Millions upon millions of Jews have been killed due to Anti-Semitism. Adolph Hitler may epitomize the Anti-Semite, but he is only one of many leaders among world history who have tried to destroy the Jewish people. Among those leaders, one cannot ignore that many were of the Christian faith, who killed Jews for their beliefs. For instance, many people do not realize that in the Crusades, the marching crusaders wiped out thousands of Jews in their travels, even though the Jewish people were not their enemies. Over centuries, popes, bishops, priests and other Christian leaders have taken their turn decrying the Jewish people, spreading lies about the Jewish people, calling for their death and spurring on pogroms (church and state-sponsored attacks against the Jewish people), all in the “name of Jesus.” Most Jews at least know some of this history of hatred created by the Church, so is this why Jews do not accept Jesus? Is it learning that Jews died because Jesus that stops Jews from converting? If you read many Messianic Jewish sites, the answer given is “yes”. They clearly state that Anti-Semitism is the core reason why Jews do not accept Jesus. But, are they correct in their claims? Actually, a brief review of history shows that their claims are false.
September 5th, 2008 at 5:11 am
thanks for that. so now that we know why jews are jews, back to the topic at hand…
i don’t see where in the new testament christians are directed to kill for a jewish state or financially support the killing for a jewish state. i think the christian churches that preach this and forward the tithe basket as such are questionable. it goes against the christian principle denouncing killing, and this whole “patriotic” wave of imperialism supported by the fundementalist right seems very twisted. my opinion.
religious views aside, i take a libertarian stance and i do not buy into the left/right paradigm bs imposed by the mainstream media and education. i don’t think much about being the world’s policeman, bully, extortionist, or any other form of imperialist. in my entire lifetime, i have had, without fail, a daily dose of “problems” fed to me on tv, radio, newspapers, and watercooler discusions involving problems with israelis and palestinians, and frankly i’m tired of the bs. it’s a volatile situation and was never handled properly from the beginning. the first mistake was the idea. my opinion.
what’s done is done. the christian right is hell bent for leather (and blood and guts and oil); the israelis are firmly entrenched and invested and there is no feasible exit strategy. it’s on.
i guess the best executive office is that which will bring a quick end. it’s not like i’m afraid to die or anything. i’d just like to see a couple of nukes go off on cnn before i’m consumed in it all. it’s the least the rotten world can afford me for putting me through this miserable dose of cold war and middle east tension, not to mention spritual deception and criminal governance.
hey.. thanks for slapping the anti-semite card down.. i must be a better tactician than i could ever imagine, causing you to drop your ace-in-the-hole without even playing a game. but i’m not biting,
not taking the bait.. know why? cuz it ain’t true bro.. like i’ve said several times tonight, love thy neighbor.. right, wrong, or indifferent, the principles brought upon this world by jesus christ, if practically applied, are second to none.
by the way, my old man was born in dachau. that’s right, a concentration camp. ouch. my family saw horrors unspeakable, most survived, completely disposessed and downtrodden, but to what end? so i can sit here in america on a website a be called an anti-semite because i have an anti-zionist perspective, fearing calamitous instabilty the impostion causes the world and the hindrance the notion causes my country? i dislike a situation and you make it personal, especially after i explained to you exactly how very impersonal it is. i guess ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
luv ya, bro
September 5th, 2008 at 6:23 am
Ivanpistov: Zionism is the fulfillment of God prophecy as written in the bible, before the end of the days. It is said that many gentiles will curse the Jews on that era and only the pure and innocent among them, that are attached to God’s prophet, will live to see redemption.
Growing among Jews doesn’t protect you from hating them. Most of the hard well known Anti Semites knew Jews but always kept the Jealousy and envy on them on high speed. It is similar to the fact that most the murder and rape crimes are made by ones who well know the victim.
You may detest religion, but it doesn’t let you the right to detest others: Christians, Jews or Muslims. 911 was hand made of fanatical extremist Muslims who waged a war against the Judeo-Christian world in order to turn the whole word Muslim before their 12th prophet to come. Unfortunately, those fanatical extremist Muslims although minority among Muslims, are counted by tens of Millions of “Allah’s Soldiers”. And they are the roots of evil.
You know what others say about Messiah’s future coming…. ? The when he comes we will ask him if he visited here before. If he will say Yes so he is a Christian, but if he will say No he sure be a Jew!
Btw, Anti Semitism is denying the Jewish people have theirs own national state. Why many other peoples, including new-born people like the Arabs in Jewish Palestine, have “your permission” to create their national state witch you prevent from the Jews?
And I ask it from the Historical-political point of view rather than the religious one. I think that denying that basic right from the Jews is founded deep in Anti Semitism feelings towards them, although you tend to alienate yourself from that trap.
September 5th, 2008 at 7:24 am
obama = NWO
dan = antisemite
September 5th, 2008 at 8:15 am
Abe Bird’s post here says Muslims caused 911. Give me a break. What’s this person even doing on these boards?
There are books on the subject by Victor Thorn, Dr. Kaasem Khaleel, Dr. Albert Pastore. It was the JEWS who had motive, opportunity, moral depravity and purpose to do 911, and they did. Alex Jones and Jesse Ventura might not have the courage to say this, but I most certainly do and will.
The Jews did the Lavon Affair 1954, where they intentionally left behind evidence to implicate/frame Arabs.
According to author Michael Collins Piper and his book “Final Judgment” the Jews did JFK assassination.
The Jews attacked the USS Liberty 1967. A surprise attack on our sailors and really ALL Americans, covered up by our own government.
The Jews did London and Madrid bombings when England and Spain were moving to take their soldiers from Iraq.
We need to demand all leaders in USA to put US first- Not these Jews who are NOT THE ISRAEL OF THE BIBLE!!!!
Bible Truth Man.com
Moses Hand.com
Scriptures for America.org
September 5th, 2008 at 8:20 am
More like ‘It is Palin’s ignorance of the Bible and who Israel of the Bible is that drives her pro-Israel views.’
This HUGE error will drag the whole world to ruin.
Bible Truth Man.com
Moses Hand.com
Scriptures for America.org
September 5th, 2008 at 8:38 am
“We, the Jews, are a people – one people. When we sink, we become revolutionary proletariat, the subordinate officers of a revoluionary party; when we rise, there arises also our terrible power of the purse.” – Theodore Herzl The Jewish State, 1896
“The two Internationales of Finance and Revolution work with ardour, they are the two fronts of the Jewish Internationale. There is a Jewish conspiracy against all nations. – Rene Groos Le Nouveau Mercure Paris, May, 1927
“We Jews, who have posed as Saviors of the World, we are today nothing else but the world’s seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its executioners.” – Oscar Levy
“Jewish leaders want world power; nothing less will do. That they have many Jews believing that they are the ‘chosen’ people.’ Jews were chosen for destruction after their leaders caused Jesus to be executed. All Jews have suffered since. A large part of the so-called persecution is artificially created to keep Jews scared and to stimulate cash contributions. Hundreds of millions of dollars have been extracted from them in the past 25 years.” (Henry H. Kelin, Jewish Leaders Are Crazy for Power).
September 5th, 2008 at 8:38 am
Wes, ……. True’dat, nigguh!
September 5th, 2008 at 8:39 am
“Jewish leaders want world power; nothing less will do. That they have many Jews believing that they are the ‘chosen’ people.’ Jews were chosen for destruction after their leaders caused Jesus to be executed. All Jews have suffered since. A large part of the so-called persecution is artificially created to keep Jews scared and to stimulate cash contributions. Hundreds of millions of dollars have been extracted from them in the past 25 years.” (Henry H. Kelin, Jewish Leaders Are Crazy for Power).
September 5th, 2008 at 8:48 am
Thata what Talmud says:
The seed of Christian is valued as seed of beast.
-Kethuboth (3b)
Hide hatred for Christians at their celebrations.
- Iore Dea (148, 12H)
“Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is of three years of age.” - Yebhamoth 11b
Mary was a whore: Jesus (Balaam) was an evil man.“ – Talmud, (Sanhedrin 106a &b, p.725).
Jews called men, but not Christians called men.
-Iebhammoth (61a)
She is called “Miriam, a dresser of women’s hair.” She “committed adultery.“-Talmud, (Exhibit 75)
“She played the harlot with carpenters.” -Talmud, (Exhibit 114)
Balaam [Jesus] is raised from the dead and being punished in boiling hot semen. Those who mock the words of the Jewish sages and sin against Israel are boiled in hot excrement. (57a Gittin) Simon, M. Translation. (1936). 57a Gittin. London. Soncino Press. p.261
September 5th, 2008 at 8:49 am
Balaam [Jesus] is raised from the dead and being punished in boiling hot semen. Those who mock the words of the Jewish sages and sin against Israel are boiled in hot excrement. (57a Gittin) Simon, M. Translation. (1936). 57a Gittin. London. Soncino Press. p.261
September 5th, 2008 at 8:54 am
Abe Bird says millions of Jews killed because of unreasonable anti-semitism. I thought the Jewish Talmud says that BBBBBBBBBBillions of Jews were killed by Emperor Hadrian at the time of Rome. Gee, I guess if I think it impossible that there were BBBBillions of Jews 2,000 years ago I am a know nothing Neo-Nazi full of hate huh?
Jews did in fact increase in population 1940-1945. Is that my “opinion”? No, according to the World Almanac, the New York Times and other census reports, they increased from about 14 to 15 million total before the war to 15 to 16 million after the war. Jewish math must be 14 – 6 = 16.
Gee, I thought God promised that Israel was to be a great multitude of people. Like the sands on the shore. Like the stars in the sky. Genesis 13:16. Only 14-16 million Jews? Large cities almost that big.
Is dislike, even hatred of Jews caused by their own actions? Their attitude to others?
They do the Lavon Affair trying to frame innocent Arabs. They surprise attack the USS Liberty, shoot up the life boats, send in helicopters to scuttle the ship and kill all aboard. They cause 911 and are caught dancing with glee and celebration as the Towers fall. They are caught planning other terrorist actions shortly after 911. They are caught trying to blow up the Mexican Congress.
Gee, I guess that is not a good enough reason to dislike Jews? That they murder innocents? And profit from it. And falsely accuse others of crimes THAT THEY IN FACT CAUSED?
Their so called Holy Talmud says that all non-Jews are beasts, less than humans.
What is a justifiable reason to dislike a people if not crime of murder, false accuser and attitude that only they are humans?
September 5th, 2008 at 9:07 am
Some say the Jewish Talmud should be burned. I don’t. I think it should be available in every public library to expose the outrageous depravity therein. Let the whole world know what Judaism really represents.
Let the John Hagees, the Pat Robertsons, the Tim LaHayes, the Jerry Falwells defend it.
Ah yes, Hagees latest book is “In Defense of Israel.” Is his next book “In Defense of the Talmud”?
LOL!
September 5th, 2008 at 9:21 am
religion is man trying to get to GOD, Christianity is GOD reaching down to man because man cant save himself, JESUS CHRIST hated religion and thwarted it at every turn
JESUS said: I am the way,the truth, and the life,no man cometh to the FATHER but by me JN 14:6
Abraham was glad to see my day!
September 5th, 2008 at 9:26 am
to 41 7th seal -WHAT SO YOU CAN TAKE THE MARK AND BURN IN HELL FOR ETERNITY?
OH AND BY THE WAY WE’RE COMING BACK SEVEN YEARS AFTER WE ARE RAPTURED
WITH JESUS SO WE WONT BE GONE THAT LONG AND THEN WELL BE STAYING FOREVER AND IT WILL BE A BETTER WORLD WITH JESUS!!!!!
September 5th, 2008 at 10:03 am
Mainstream christianity is “under strong delusion”. Think about this, why do you need to be resurrected in order to receive eternal life if you are already in heaven with the Messiah? Answer: The dead are asleep, unaware, unconscious. They are not in heaven. They have to be resurrected. There is no rapture, it has been confused with the 1st Resurrection and was not a theory until the late 1800s. It is a ploy to make an apathetic body of believers more apathetic because they think they are going to “fly out” of here and leave everyone else to suffer. Wrong! you will be here just like everyone else. Read the Scriptures for yourself and not with someone else’s commentary.
http://jesusnotchristian.com/
September 5th, 2008 at 11:45 am
“Joshua 21:45 “Not a word failed of any good thing which the LORD had spoken to the house of Israel. All came to pass.”
it’s impossible for the messiah to fullfill all the profecies if he didn’t come before the destruction of the second temple
it is possible for Jesus to fulfill them when he comes back and does the rest (defeat satan set up his kingdom on earth).
daniel 9:26 “After the sixty-two ’sevens,’ the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed”
so the anointed one would have been on the earth then be cut off from everyone (leave and be rejected by people) at a time when the world is not at peace.
“The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.”
the sceptre departed the Jews and Israel right after they crucified Jesus.
a little after that passage
“I have waited for thy salvation, O LORD”
The Jews persecuted their own prophets why would it be any different with the messiah ?
can a person have faith when the messiah comes in all his glory, defeats the enemy, and sets up his kingdom ruling over the whole world ?
what about another prophet like moses ? moses was delivered from death as an infant, jesus was too. Moses offered to die, if necessary, if God would forgive the sins of the people that Moses was leading (see Exodus 32:30-33) Jesus did that.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
through one man Adam (his father was literally God) sin entered the world, through the crucifiction of the son of God everyone is purified.
“By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son”
Jesus wasn’t a false prophet. how could he be he didn’t do or say anything that didn’t come to pass or that didn’t observe the laws. people knew him as a good teacher.
false teachers use flattery to control the deceived Ezekiel 12:24
Jesus tought against sinning (the breaking of the commandments), against living like the world,
False Teachers can be identified by their encouragement to forget God Jeremiah 23:27
Jesus said to worship the Lord your God with all your HEART, SOULD AND MIND.
But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
he might have been the ONLY person crucified by the Jews who didn’t commit a crime. he was blameless.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Palin’s support of Israel and a Jewish state is just another reason to vote her into office. Alex Jones, why do you have such a problem with supporting Jews? This statement you made about her display of the Israeli flag shows that Palin is a strong Christian and knows how instrumental a Jewish state has been and continues to be in the promotion of a belief in God. American leaders’ belief in a higher power (GOD) has helped America to stay such a strong country for all this time; and if we want to continue to stay strong, our leaders need to have the belief in God to give them the correct guidance to do His will. Have you read the Bible, Alex? Before you start making judgements on those that attempt to live by it, you need to at least read it. Who knows – you might learn something from it and have more understanding of Christians and Jews. Correct, not all Jews or Christians are perfect – but that is not your and your readers’ place to judge anyone – that is God’s job. He is the only one knowledgeable enough to do that job.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
ANY Christian who believes that the war in Iraq is Gods will…
YOU ARE A COMPLETE MORON. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A SHEEP OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER, CONTROLED AND MANIPULATED BY THE ILLUMINATI AND YOUR FALSE PROPHETS, PASTORS, PRIESTS…whatever your spiritual leaders who are nothing but abominations in the sight of the HOLY ONE.
Your own beliefs declare you guilty…hypocrites
John 10:10 The thief (Satan) comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
1 Timothy chap 2 vs 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.
KEEP GOD OUT OF YOUR BLOOD LUSTS, DISREGUARD FOR LIFE, GREED FOR OIL, LAVISH LIFESTYLES, COMPLAICENCY, AND IGNORANCE.
Take the log out of your own eye before you take a needle out of another’s.
Look at the dark forces in this world like your own government before you think it is permissible to rape, kill, and destroy civilians who are protecting their way for life ….over a vendetta/lie you completely fall for.
You are doomed and cannot justify your sin. Repent perverse and complacent generation before it is too late…. Baptism in the name of Jesus and sin no more.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Ron Paul is the most Christian leader I have ever heard of. He practices what he preaches!!!
James 2:18
But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do.
He is a true American and a true follow are Christ, who doesn’t use his religion as a free pass to push for foreign wars that may help us economically but kill our souls and any sort of goodness we have ever had…
I have some scriptures for Bible bangers who enjoy justifying their ignorance and also for Sarah Palin and McCain…we might as well throw Obama and his whole crew in as well….supporters of abortion and partial birth abortion. Supporters of sacrifices to Molech….
13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
They Jews are our buds they wanna kill these rat eating towel spinners because they know there a bunch of s--- stirers every muslim country needs to go! there a problem people look at the bombs going off in that part of the world ya they like to stir it all right like s--- in a blendor killem all,go Israel! touch them nukes off !
September 5th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Mary-Beth Frazee is another tool of the NWO. She, like most of the idiots that post here, don’t have a clue that the bible is a NWO tool, and the god Jehova, the god of the jews, that she worships is not the God that that put her stupid ass here. She don’t have a clue who the man that she calls Jesus Christ was, or who the God is that sent him here to try to tell the fools of the earth how they should live. They tried to kill him for his trouble, and the Jews told her they did and she believs that BS the same as she believes the jews are the true Gods chosen people.. She believes that BS just as much as most of you idiots do! Let me tell you fools that the true God has no choosen people. The Aryan people would be the nearest thing to choosen people, because they came from Adam and Adam’s mother was not from this world as were the mothers of most of the other peoples. Israel is not destorying this nation, but the fools that claim to be Americans that are determined to follow what ever the NWO through Israel tells them to do, are the the ones that’s destorying it. .America is being destoryed from the inside by the people that have let the NWO take control of their minds through their bible, their churches, and most of all through their un-education.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Joe Biden labels himself as a ZIONIST on shalom.tv!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmD0G2iASk0
September 5th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
As per usual, it always smells funny when COINTELPRO dupes selectively quote from the Babylonian Talmud, instead of from the Hebrew Torah. Nobody with a discriminating sense of discernment finds this particularly disturbing to their worldview, such that the provocation would be especially engaging.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
the war in iraq, having nothing to do with 9/11 and islamic terrorism, is all about zionist EXPANSION to the euphrates, to babylon. you heard it here.
now here comes my genx apathy: i don’t care. ya know, just as pharaisaic imposition on judea was a wrong but necessary evil in god’s plan, so too may be may be this zionist/neocon nazism.
sometimes medicine tastes like ass, but we wince, we sleep, and we we awake to bluer skies and greener grasses.
would it be nice to know what is killing me, what this cancer is upon me? yes. as such, i appreciate the work of this site. do i expect change? sorry, i do not.
September 5th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Benjamin Franklin:
“We must protect this young nation from any insidious influence…
That menace, gentlemen, is the Jews. In whatever country Jews have
settled in any great numbers, they have lowered its moral tone,
depreciated its commercial integrity, have segregated themselves and
have not been assimilated. They have sneered at and have tried to
undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded by
objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within a state
and have, when opposed, tried to strangle that country financially…
They are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot
live among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and on other
people not of their race.
If you do not exclude them from the United States in the Constitution,
in less than 200 years they will have swarmed in in such numbers that
they will doninate and devour the land and change our form of
government… I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude the Jews
for all time, your children will curse you in your graves.”
Benjamin Franklin.
September 5th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Benjamin Franklin:
“We must protect this young nation from any insidious influence…
That menace, gentlemen, is the Jews. In whatever country Jews have
settled in any great numbers, they have lowered its moral tone,
depreciated its commercial integrity, have segregated themselves and
have not been assimilated. They have sneered at and have tried to
undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded by
objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within a state
and have, when opposed, tried to strangle that country financially…
They are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot
live among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and on other
people not of their race.
If you do not exclude them from the United States in the Constitution,
in less than 200 years they will have swarmed in in such numbers that
they will doninate and devour the land and change our form of
government… I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude the Jews
for all time, your children will curse you in your graves.”
September 5th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
God said He will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel. Our Savior and our Bible is here through the work God did through Israel. There are a multitude of things that I do not like about Israel particularly the Jews involved with the Illuminati but that being said, I will not take a position against Israel because God WILL curse those who curse Israel. That is why I support Israel and the only reason I support Israel. God is in charge and Israel is still part of His plan.
September 5th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Ron Paul is the most Christian leader I have ever heard of. He practices what he preaches!!!
James 2:18
But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do.
He is a true American and a true follow are Christ, who doesn’t use his religion as a free pass to push for foreign wars that may help us economically but kill our souls and any sort of goodness we have ever had…He also doesn’t flaunt his religion and go around telling people he’s a born again christian to get voters.
I have some scriptures for Bible bangers who enjoy justifying their ignorance and also for Sarah Palin and McCain…we might as well throw Obama and his whole crew in as well….supporters of abortion and partial birth abortion. Supporters of sacrifices to Molech….
13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
September 5th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Oh don’t worry, it’s just a coincidence. Evreyone has an Israeli flag in there office and in there home, all those who don’t have one are anti-semites. Ya. that’s the ticket charlie ! Moving along now ..
September 5th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
VERDAD , Legal Immigrants Are One Thing But Don’t Expect America And The Taxpayers To Accept Or Tolerate ILLEGAL INVADERS ! You Want To Come To This Country To Better Yourself And Have A Better Life For Your Family Fine , Do It Legally And Get To The Back Of The Line .There Are Hundreds That Are Following The Law And Going Through The Legal Process Of Gaining Citizenship To This Great Country Of Ours . We Don’t Have A Problem With That , But When These Scum Try To Circumvent The Law And Enter Here Illegally Bringing With Them Drugs , Weapons , Third World Diseases , And Criminal Elements Then We Have A Huge Problem ! I Remind You To Check Mexico’s Own Very, Very , Strict Immigration Laws And Then Come Back And Give Us Your Take On That OK! And To Hell With That Poor Oppressed “IMMIGRANT” Horse Crap . That Baloney Is Getting Old Quick !
September 5th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
what is more scandal? that a person, decorating his monitor with the israel flag, runs for an american election, or that a american person vote for her…?
September 5th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Israel is not a land. It is a race of people that made many nations. They came from the seed of one man, Abraham that God made the covenant with. The seed was of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. God changed Jacobs name to Israel and his seed would make many nations, not one. God toke the land away from those that were left, after the people of the 12 tribes of Israel were taken into slavery, before the comeing of Jesus Christ, and gave it to the most wicked and evil people. These evil people still live in the land today and do not beleive Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Jesus was the new covenant, and only beleiveing in him as the son of God can you get to his Fathers kingdom.
September 5th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
texasshydog your lack of knowledge is mirrowed by most Americans. Abraham was not a father of any race.
I would venture to say that you don’t know the differance between God and Jehova either. I can see by your post that you don’t know that the man you call Jesus Christ, was not the son of any god but he was a human sent here by God to educate the fools about how their earthly lives should be lived in order to progress in their journey back to Creation that created them.
The religious bulls--- that people like you have fallen for is why this country is going down the tube at a breakneck speed. You people believe the bulls--- that a bunch of Jews that wondered around in the woods lost from doing drugs for forty years tells you when they say they are gods choosen people. You idiots believe that freedom loving Americans are supposed to bow down to them and kiss their ass because they wrote some bulls--- in a book you call the bible…well let me tell you assholes one thing: There’s a lot of freedom loving Americans that; ‘just ant gonna do it!’ We love America and we are not going to turn our part over to Israe/NWO come hell or high water and you assholes can take that to the bank with you.
September 5th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
you still think you vote for persons??? for presidents??? ministers???
just puppets, that MUST obey to the banks and corporatives that put them there, with the help of medias and big money…
those persons cannot have any personal project, do you understand???
September 5th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
All the hate material put up here at infowars is done by White Supremacists who hate Jewish people, African Americans, and anybody and everybody who is not them! If you get on their side, you will be next!
Something the people who read this junk really need to understand is that the Jewish people live a yearly cycle in the Holy Days (holidays) which are completely about ridding oneself of any and all idol worship (which includes putting ANYTHING over G-d: money, other people, things, all occult matters – EVERYTHING), removing ALL forms of slavery from one’s life, and getting closer to G-d (Teshuva – which means return, not repentance). Because the Jewish people’s focus is ALWAYS on the removal of slavery the people of the NWO hate the Jewish people. They are USING YOU. They are USING YOU AS THEIR TOOLS!
The occult is forbidden in the Torah. The Cabbala you think has something to do with the Jewish people is the Cabbala of the Luciferians! Kabbalah, as Jewsih people understand it (and the symbols and ideas therein) is completely different. The Luciferians have highjacked some ideas and symbols and twisted them around, just like they do with everything! You have GOT to wake up before it is too late. You are putting yourselves on a course of destruction by thinking the “Jews” are your enemy and you are losing many, many people who would support important causes like 911 Truth because of it! Wake up!
Here are a couple of places you can go to get info that rips their garbage to shreds!
geocities dot com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/exp dot html
It is in English.
Also:
geocities dot com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/1000quote dot html
Zionism, the national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland.
The foundations of Zionism are:
1. The unity of the Jewish people, its bond to its historic homeland Eretz Yisrael, and the centrality of the State of Israel and Jerusalem, its capital, in the life of the nation;
2. Aliyah to Israel from all countries and the effective integration of all immigrants into Israeli Society.
3. Strengthening Israel as a Jewish, Zionist and democratic state and shaping it as an exemplary society with a unique moral and spiritual character, marked by mutual respect for the multi-faceted Jewish people, rooted in the vision of the prophets, striving for peace and contributing to the betterment of the world.
4. Ensuring the future and the distinctiveness of the Jewish people by furthering Jewish, Hebrew and Zionist education, fostering spiritual and cultural values and teaching Hebrew as the national language;
5. Nurturing mutual Jewish responsibility, defending the rights of Jews as individuals and as a nation, representing the national Zionist interests of the Jewish people, and struggling against all manifestations of anti-Semitism.
The people in charge of Israel are the same group who are in charge of the USA. It is not Jews! So-called Christians like Bush are in the White House and most of the House, the Senate, and the Judiciary, as well as the CIA, the FBI, etc… but do the haters say that – that Christian somebody, or this Christian somebody in your hateful tirades? Of course not, because you are petty Hitlers! Also, companies like Blackwater are owned by Christians not Jews, why aren’t you wailing at them? The answer is obvious to everyone.
Jewish people have lived in Israel NON-stop for THOUSANDS of years. Although a few times the area was usurped by other Nations – the ONLY people to ever have an actual Country, an actual Nation in Israel has been the Jewish people, and the ONLY people to ever have Jerusalem as a Capital are the Jewish people. Learn some history instead of spouting junk. Also, for those who think they know the Talmud – better learn Hebrew, not only are your so-called quotes out of context – they are completely mis-translated!
see http://www.hirhome.com instead of being anti-semitic petty hitlers!
Froogle “UNRWA mishandling” also for more information (Google is a NWO machine)
September 5th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
As if the branches of US Government are in charge of the USA.. Start with the Federal Reserve and work your way up from there.. In other words, follow the money.
If we Americans had not failed somewhere along the way to surrender our constitution, it would be the people who rule the nation and the strongest army in the world would be a private militia of some 300 million with the unimpeded right to bear arms. But the government does not rule, no. It stages performances directed by a higher force, which you can wach 24 hours a day on CNN, NBC, FOX and the like. It’s a propaganda machine, like you, only more sophisticated.
Follow the money. Most crimes leave trails of blood and money.
September 5th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
for me, all this has absolutely nothing to do with religions, believes, or any intelectuel conviction. Life is more simple than that, human being is not so complicated:
need to drink and eat, a sufficient quantity and if possible, best quality…
do all that in a nice and warm house, and of possible with all luxury that goes with it…
but don(t forget the most important, that is the satisfaction of his instincts, the most important is sexual, you will admit, and of course if possible and for the longest time as possible, with the youngest and most beautifull ones…
who has the power has it all, and for the longest time…OK?
September 5th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
many traps were imagined and tended, most effective remaining certainly the asshole…
September 5th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
follow the ass…
September 5th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Stay in the word
Be on the winning side
Stay in God’s word and do what he says
Most important have faith in above.
September 5th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Jim….The man you call Jesus Christ was not a Jew. He was a direct disendent of Adam, the father of the white race, who had a father and mother from another world. Like it or not, that is the way it is.
September 5th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
the fact of making the choice to believe, is for me, just a manner, by hiding own egoism and cowardize, the only possible way to refuse and to release itself from the responsability everyone must have, that is acting in a way of solidarity and compassion. I affirm that believing is a mask like many others…
exceptions make a rule…
September 5th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
if some believer made good and risky actions, that does not mean that he or her made those actions because of its believes, but, like someone who does not believe, he or her could have made those actions, for the simple reason that he or she is a good person…do you understand?
September 5th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
9/11 who benefited? to the aware individual the obvious answer is Israel.
How far does the rabbit hole go?
NWO/”globalist”= Criminal Zionist Jew
Never be intimidated in confronting evil.
September 5th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
“those who believed in Me, I pardon you, for having just watched, when Evil did his work, and my paradise opens its doors for you…”
You prefer to hear that???
September 5th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
why don’t we just call it a class war and see where the chips fall?
September 6th, 2008 at 9:39 am
You all have to admit…Palin is pretty freaking hot. I bet she sucks some good dick…
September 6th, 2008 at 11:18 am
Israel needs to get rid of that satanic, six pointed talisman symbol and replace it with a menorah! God was quite insensed with King Solomon for using that symbol among other things. It would be so much easier to sport a little menorah flag!
September 6th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
See post 171 by Really Truth