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  • Every house to have gas and electricity ’smart’ meter by 2020

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    Sean Poulter
    Mail Online
    May 12, 2009

    Installing smart gas and electricity meters in every home in the country will cost the nation £9.3billion, it has been announced.

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    The ambitious plan, expected to be completed by 2020, will allow power companies to read meters remotely and will mean the end of estimated bills.

    Installation will work out at £340 per household and the Government claims customers will save money in the long term by seeing their costs and usage on a daily basis, and therefore be encouraged to cut back to reduce bills.

    But there is an argument over how much of the installation cost should be met by consumers and how much by the ‘big six’ suppliers.

    The smart meters will provide billions in savings to the likes of British Gas, allowing them to do away with thousands of meter readers and call centre staff.

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    110 Responses to “Every house to have gas and electricity ’smart’ meter by 2020”

    1. Unite!! Says:

      Strategy, it’s the only talk that matters!

      http://www.warnthepeople.org/the-open-forum.html

      jones Reply:

      Are we not going to be lodge for free at the”CAMP” way before 2020?

      Glenn Beck's Banker Reply:

      I want the dumb meters not the smart meters. I want the one that adds 2 plus 2 and gets 3.

      Theguythatlivesbetweentesticlsandanus Reply:

      I want the CAMP FEMA to have smart meters so that the cost of incinerators can be figured correctly.

      brainy smurf Reply:

      I want Stue to join me and my wife in bed except my wife will not be home. the 69 twelve project

      jones Reply:

      Check out the magnetic motor.That is a solution.

      FIGHT BACK NOW Reply:

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      Linda Smith Reply:

      The answer to 2020 is the return of Jesus Christ long before that.

      overlordfromarmpitland Reply:

      current technology being used by law enforcement and control freaks not will this stuff is in wide use NOW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page no future

      brainy smurf Reply:

      do what u ought to do and not what u want to do. a few generations of pussies. oh i think i broke a sweat, i could die. oh the temp dropped below 60, oh god im freezing. the farther u get away from the earth and your natural self,the more corporate facism will rule you

      brainy smurf Reply:

      this may be useless but the city of El Reno,OK doesnt send out water meter checkers. they estimate and send a bill thats averaged out. I know this cause when I mow the meter covers dont seem to be touched

      OGALY MOGALY Reply:

      Put a powerful magnet next to a meter and it can be made to stop or run in reverse. Fun facts for inquiring minds.

    2. qi woo Says:

      Get off the grid-

      overlordfromarmpitland Reply:

      I light my house with solar powered white leds .. they are not super bright but bright enough to read a book .. one important thing with solar / battery charges always put a 3 amo fuse on each circuit if you are using 22 gauge wire . yes, the fuse is to prevent a fire in case you short something out.

      Linda Smith Reply:

      I’m not going to need their shit because I can go solar long before 2020.

      4w578i Reply:

      It’s a fun hobby, but they want to make it illegal.

    3. NobleUK Says:

      ‘It will be possible to send an electronic message to the meters to change the tariffs in line with price changes. It will also allow companies to charge more during peak times.
      The meters could also be used to ration supplies across the network or cap electricity use in a particular household to a certain threshold.’

      oh lucky us

      SolarAbsolution Reply:

      You got it! It’s absolutely disgusting there is no REAL regulation on how much people are gouged.

      Jr Gong Reply:

      hey does anyone know of any legislation that is a blunt tax on individuals, households, families, consumers..ect? i know of some but i need some better shit.

      Jet Game Reply:

      This is not a bad idea at all. Their needs to be control on the grid. I just wanted to also post that people on here think they are getting the real news and call everyone sheep. It’s funny to me because their is so much fluff on this website. I beleive some of this crap, but I know for fact ALEX JONES is a jackass. I guess this would be to you like it would be for some to call obama a white man hiding behind black skin. That was painful I’m sure. I just want someone to really give the world proof, phsyical and video streaming proof of these evil acts. Not screaming at people that are driving calling good ol’ Alex an extremist nut job that needs to be locked up, but proof. You get real video proof like that of 9-11 and chemtrails you will turn heads very fast. IF you do nothing at all, that is the most important thing any person can do. I love the U.S.A. and if I am to go against my goverment I need allot more then words and websites that point half ass like to their views.

      RYE BREW Reply:

      GUY, YOU ADMIT THAT 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, AND THAT CHEMTRAILS ARE REAL RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU SAW IT ON TV, DOCUMENTARIES, AND IN PLAIN VIEW PRACTICALLY EVERYDAY… HOW MANY YEARS DID IT TAKE YOU TO COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB? LET ME GUESS—AT FIRST YOU WERE MAD, TO THE POINT OF BEING A RACIST, NEXT YOU WERE FANTISIZING ABOUT JOINING THE MILITARY TO FIGHT THE EVIL IRAQ, THEN AS TIME WENT BY AND SOME TRUE PATRIOTS DECIDED TO CHIN CHECK THE GOVERNMENT BY RESEARCHING AND DOCUMENTING INFORMATION USING DIFFERENT MEDIA SOURCES DID YOU FINALLY START TO WAKE UP FROM YOUR MEDIA CONTROLLED SLUMBER. NOW, YOU HAVE SOME REAL BALLS TO HAVE US ALL BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE SOME SORT OF USA LOVER BECAUSE YOU CAN GIVE ADVISE ABOUT WHAT TO DO TO HELP OUR COUNTRY!!! THANKS FOR TELLING US ALL THAT WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING TO CONVINCE AN IDIOT LIKE YOU…YOU ALREADY TOLD US THAT OUR GOVERNMENT HAS BETRAYED US AND YET YOU ARE TO STUPID TO THINK THAT THEY ARE NOT CONTINUING TO DO SO NOW…AND YOU EXPECT US TO PLACATE TO YOUR IGNORANCE? PLEASE!!! YOU SPIT MEANINGLESS ATTACKS ABOUT OBAMA AS IF THAT HURTS US…OBAMA HURTS US YOU SLUG…I FEEL SORRY FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE IT IN YOU TO BELIEVE THE TRUTH YET YOU ARE TO LAZY TO DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH…YOU ARE LIKE A LITTLE KID ON THE SIDELINES OF THE PLAYGROUND WHO WANTS TO PLAY SOCCER WITH THE OTHER KIDS AND KNOWS HOW TO PLAY SOCCER BUT ARE TO FAT AND INSECURE TO FACE YOUR FEARS AND INSTEAD OF PLAYING YOU GO TELL THE TEACHER BECAUSE THE OTHER KIDS WONT PLAY WITH YOU!!! GET A LIFE….QUIT HAVING “JET” LAG

      i was dupped Reply:

      911 was an outside job!
      http://www.judenfrei.org/jews-did-911

    4. Ben Says:

      “Smart meters” are really remote controllers. Criticize the trash in government and your supply of energy is cut, effectively starving or freezing you. This is only a blackmail ploy, like everything coming from UK’s government. Given how it broadly it mistreats its people, why would it want to help them pay their bills more fairly?

    5. Income4Life Says:

      Smart meters are a good thing.

      I am still going through a despute with the power company over my gas bill last winter.
      They claim I used $50 a month in gas. The problem is that the house was winterized and empty. In fact, the gas was capped off BY THEM!

      There excuse is that the meter reader was using estimation to come up with my usage.

      In other words, pulling numbers out of their butt instead of doing real work.

      They finally replaced the meter with a smart meter last month.

      NobleUk Reply:

      you can phone in your meter reading y the fuck would i want 1 of these

      SolarAbsolution Reply:

      Get a life you clown.

      yellowhak1 Reply:

      smart meter lol! smart enough to fool you into believing its good for us. government good people bad

      SolarAbsolution Reply:

      Before you spread you CORPORATE propaganda filth KILL YOUR SELF. That is all.

      Guy Mann Reply:

      The other good thing about them is that the meter readers don’t come inside to read the meter. This is one thing that I like. It used to piss me off to no end to have to let a stranger in my house to read the meter.

      Theguythatlivesbetweentesticalsandanus Reply:

      I use bioheat and stay pretty warm. The only problem is about 8:00 PM on about everyother day I get beat over the head by two jewel sacks.

    6. Just Blaze Says:

      We just got ours in Yonkers NY, yay!!! Our provider is Con Ed, very expensive

    7. F U Says:

      Don’t bet on price savings unless you are the utilitie company.

      SolarAbsolution Reply:

      yup.

    8. www.AmericaReclaimed.com Says:

      It always mentions how consumers will save money and things will be “easier”.

      mush Reply:

      this is what we have all grown up expecting. everyone always wants things faster, cheaper, easier, smaller….what consumerist bullshit we put up with

    9. Bruce Says:

      BIG DEAL!!!! Don’t you all think we have more impotant things to worry about!!! come on now… what will the world be like in 2020???? 1/2 of us TRUE patriots won’t even be alive by then!!! This shouldn’t even be on this site…. If you lose sleep over this….. you have it made!!!

      YELLOWHAK1 Reply:

      BRUCE: impotant things to do, i don’t know do you?

    10. ron no inside job paul Says:

      I’ll tell you guys the same thing I told guliani at our fake debates.

      Read the 9/11 commission report, it tells you why we were attacked on 9/11.

    11. Unite!! Says:

      Problem, Reaction, Solution!

      Problem= Big Brother
      Reaction= “Oh No!, what are we going to do??
      Solution= YOU

      http://www.warnthepeople.org

      SEER Reply:

      Nice counter spin :O

      Sally says Reply:

      OMG !!! Someone knocked the eyes off of your pac man face
      How RUDE !!!!

    12. roaddog Says:

      The only way its smart is because stupid people let it happen.

    13. Jimmycrackcorn Says:

      “The smart meters will provide billions in savings to the likes of British Gas, allowing them to do away with thousands of meter readers and call centre staff.”

      Oh – uuuhh … but dont go expecting any reduction in the rates or anything like that!!

    14. FormerFBI Says:

      TXU just installed mine on last week, the week of 05/01/2009.

    15. dWaRf mApLe Says:

      I wonder when they are going to start metering you sunshine and fresh air?

      http://911essentials.com says beware of bureaucrats bearing gifts ….

      911essentials is a primer portal introduction to the New World Order Corporate Banking Police State, its plans for one world government and their worship of the fake science Eugenics.

      brainy smurf Reply:

      they kinda tried that in the 80’s with the ozone/skin cancer hoax. the skin creams caused the cancer and not normal xposure to sunlight

    16. Kingrommel Says:

      Bugger – guess i’ll have to remove that magnet from my existing meter.

      Seriously – utter shite – they forget to mention that the comsumer will probably have to PAY for the installations and hardware. This would be done overtly or covertly, but the public get screwed and people loose thier jobs.

      The next thing will be carbon meters, then were really screwed.

      Another increment in NWO.

    17. cdeavesdrop Says:

      there is a new YouTube Its now AlexJonesTube :) http://www.youtube.com/AlexJonesTube :)

    18. my2cents Says:

      2020..yeah right….. like we are still going to be here in 2020.

      HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Reply:

      “Sea Lab 2020″. All the money taxed out of Brits like us goes straight into the manufacturer’s coffers and they’ll rape y’all for it. Fuck it…I’m goin’ to exercise on my Flywheel Battery!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”

    19. Gary Says:

      This is happening in Bowling green ,ohio just got notice saturday its called TWACs sent my cover letter to prison planet

    20. david Says:

      The smart meters will provide billions in savings to the likes of British Gas, allowing them to do away with thousands of meter readers and call centre staff.

      Oh thats swell So spend billions of dollars that cost the citizens and then add inssault to injury
      By putting all those meter readers out of a job so they can pay the tax for this new scam out of there own savings Right!!!

      "ren Reply:

      david, you took the words rite out of my typing!

    21. The Riddler??????? Says:

      What is blessed in the East & the West and is the lower case of the X?
      ????????????????????=>?<=????????????????????????????????????????

    22. Highlanderess Says:

      Ours is already read by satellite. Some guy from either the electric or gas company was putting something on our meter a few years ago. I asked him about it. He said it so they would no longer have to come and read it themselves and it was going to be read by satellite. I haven’t seen another human come to read it.

    23. Mothman Says:

      Once Martial Law has been invoked and citizens moved to detention camps, these electronic devices allow the government to know where water is being consumed, and where electricity is being used. They will know the exact time and exact number of gallons of water used. With enough usage data they will know when you are most likely to be captured and placed in detention camp with your fellow citizens. Either way this technology data is used to see usage on a 24/7 basis. Once a sector of or a city is declared shut down they can find stragglers unlike the Germans that missed those that were ingenius and determined not to be caught and killed. This 21 century technology combined with other technology can prevent you from being invisible and can assist the government in killing you quiker and more ifficently.

      Qui desiderant pacem preparate bellum Reply:

      Very interesting theory. I hadn’t thought of that. Something to keep in mind if you’re hunkering down when TSHTF.

      Sushi123 Reply:

      Thank you for sharing this vital insight. There are truly more scary aspects to it than one would think at first.

    24. Captain KIRK Says:

      DAMN NATION!!

      Mothman

    25. NatureBoy Says:

      ”all and all your just another brick in the wall” england is the most heavily big brothered country in the world. it is becoming worse than nazi germany every day there. cuz it is run by a reptilian queen and her nazi racist husband prince philip who looks like a disturbing creature from hell -kinda like rockefeller

      ”you are free to do as we tell you” -Bill Hicks

      http://www.davidicke.com

    26. civil LAWS Says:

      big deal if i use the energy i want to pay today’s price not an estimate. 2 years ago the gas prices were very low during the summer and i never noticed that i was getting estimates until they billed me 3x’s the amount during the winter months to my surprise some 1300 dollars for a small 3 bedroom place for one month. the gas during the summer was cheap and the estimates for my use were way off, then the jump and actual read, and some battling with the states energy commision they agreed to lower the bill, I call my bill in, and if having one of these on my house lowers how much gas cost, no meter reader who invade my backyard, I would much rather have that.

      Glenn Beck's Banker Reply:

      good answer slave.

      civil laws Reply:

      I do not like letting meter readers into my dwelling to allow them to see what I am doing in my private home, here in the states they knock on your door and walk into your basement to read the meter, or go into your backyard. I would rather them hit a button and get a read and stay out of my personal buisiness. So you can slave yourself by letting them into your dwelling, and who knows if they are not working in conjunction with the feds? Meter reading isnt exactly a skilled job btw, should reach for something bigger. oh yeah move outa mommy’s basement.

    27. Bman Says:

      Hahahah….big deal, info wars this is seriously ridiculous. By 2020 we will all be dead or we will all be running the show.

      I’m pretty sure the New World Order fools will drive us to the egde….1776 style

      “Don’t push me cuz I’m close to the edge”

    28. wake up america Says:

      funny i read this article, i just noticed a smart meter was installed in one of our deceased relatives house along with the smart meter ad hmmm…..
      lets all wake together

    29. Theguythatlivesbetweentesticalsandanus Says:

      They were trained to believe in Santa Claus. So most just go to sleep and expect good things will happen.

    30. jasoon Says:

      lol i will have solar power..no bills for me except water

      Paul S Reply:

      HAHA yeah, ok fool. they are gonna get fried in a sunspot storm (solar flare) and get wiped out with anything having a circuit in use when it happens here. way more real and serious than global warming.

    31. Craig Says:

      The first thing that comes to mind when I saw “smart meters” was the whole controlling how much power people use. Isn’t that the plan? To drastically reduce energy consumption by the Western nations and bring us down to a 2nd, maybe 3rd world level? Regardless of how they roll this out, if that is the case, then this is just another tool to make sure you don’t use to much energy. We gotta save the planet afterall don’t we? And since we are the enemy of the planet, our betters(haha) will have to regulate how much energy we use. They’re always thinking ahead are’nt they.

    32. Wayland Says:

      Once they start getting all Carbon Footprint about this they will charge different rates for different things in your house. The smartmeters could easily comunicate with the smart fridge so that the energy company can save power at peek times.

      Mystic-Creations Reply:

      Absolutely!

    33. Michael the Gardener Says:

      surveillance within the home ………….Gr8

    34. Tin Foil Says:

      Bitch about this, well then, get real and get off the GRID!

      Very simple and there are many ways to do it. Do not be beholden to Greedy F*ckers!

    35. Keek_o_keefers Says:

      This smart meter is complete bullshit!!!! they will use it to limit usage and or charge us more, new technology costs money….. do you think electric or gas will pay for it, yes they will upfront but then pass that on to the consumer at a higher price then what they paid for each meter, fuckin fascist

    36. RickPA Says:

      Public-Private-Partnership. A for profit “entity” backed by the full “legal authority” of NWO government. They get the profit, the government gets the power ( and legal bribery known as campaign contributions) and the people get the shaft.

    37. elizabeth Says:

      Regardless, everyone is paying for welfare in their bill. Same applies to t.v. cable, internet services. The rates keep increasing because the Fed gov supplies funding for low income citizens that cannot afford these services. The programs to me are just another way to launder money and charge outrageous prices for energy – it is not global warming spiking up the rates – it is the program.

    38. MaryJane Leegal Says:

      Why worry about it? We’ll all be dead by then. I’d just make sure I make my peace with God. What are the chances that we’ll be one of the small percentage left alive?????

      vikingscool Reply:

      I gladly I probably won’t be here in 2020. :)

    39. jan Says:

      look at michael shaws, website all about Agenda 21 and “Smart Growth” which is like “Smart meter”

    40. laura brown Says:

      I REALLY HOPE SOMEONE COMES ALONG REAL SOON TO TELL US ALL HOW TO STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING BEFORE ITS TOO LATE–WE HAVE TO KNOW ‘NOW’ HOW TO STOP THIS–ANY IDEAS ANYONES??

      Linda Smith Reply:

      Yes. You have to go after the devil. You have to become empowered to do this, it is called Spiritual Warfare. They could never ever succeed at this, with human power alone. They
      are empowered by the evil one, Saten. So you have to use the alternate spiritual power, which is the Holy Spirit, against Saten. I believe that if every Christian on earth who is empowered by the Holy Ghost, were doing spiritual warfare at this moment….you would see a change, a weakening in the events which are taking place.

      laura brown Reply:

      THATS FOR SURE!! I ALSO DO IT BY INFORMING AND POSTING EVERYTHING I CAN FIND TO EXPOSE ALL THE EVIL THATS RIGHT UNDER OUT NOSES–BECAUSE YA KNOW ITS ALWAYS THE HARDEST TO SEE–THANKS TO PEOPLE LIKE ALEX JONES AND YOU FOR POINTING US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION!! THANK YOU!! DO YOU BY ANY CHANCE LIVE IN SO.CA? ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS NAME IS LINDA SMITH, AND NOW I LIVE IN GA

      brainy smurf Reply:

      i kinda agree but even those now who are posessed can still be subdued without a revival. remember the tower of babel where not so rightious folk got together in one accord that it made god take notice. God is great but just an agreement between We the people could shake heaven and earth.

    41. SMART ASS Says:

      Every house to have gas and electricity ’smart’ meter by 2020

      GOOD NOW THE ELECTRICITY COMPANY WILL STOP RIPPING ME OFF

    42. Manfrrotto Says:

      Even worse …

      http://www.computerweekly.com/.....t-card.htm

    43. alec sucks Says:

      alec is ex cia

    44. Mystic-Creations Says:

      Those smart meters forced an immediate increase on my electricity bill. Due to the fact that they charge more on peak hours, 11pm to 1pm and 5pm to 8pm. During these hours it costs you a premium to use the electricity. They promised that they would help save money and give more accurate readings….total B.S.

      Plain and simple, smart meters cost you money, period.

    45. Mystic-Creations Says:

      Finding a way to get off the grid is ultimately the best idea in my opinion. It’s expensive but it leaves you in a lot better control of your home and family’s safety.

    46. ObsoleteHuman Says:

      My landlords had one of these for our joint living space. She always asked me personal questions about what I was running in the house that day, etc. I know that she will be operating a FEMA camp for the Globalists someday. She even wanted to know how many babies I intended to have as such things should be decided by people more qualified to know whether or not I deserved to use up the resources for children that would come from my womb. She has two children, a 2.3 acre horse farm (strictly recreational use) and about a 3,500+ square foot house for 4 people…and a barn. She is quite worried about how many resources I used up on a daily basis…I lived on about $500 a month, btw. She apparently sees people like me as “slaves” already.

    47. gfrancis Says:

      What you’re saying is entirely correct. Great message.

      To those infowarriors that doubt the Word of God, well, I was one of you very recently. Realize that a lot more is at work here than what meets the eye. Trust in God and his son Jesus Christ.

      The Christians aren’t all crazy (though many of them are.)

      Notice how doomsaying and Christianity often goes hand in hand? Think about it.

      http://www.jesus-is-savior.com

    48. Shizat Says:

      They came by and installed this on my house without warning or notice. My wife was in the shower, I was at work. Power went out for an hour. Unfortunately it was raining so the dog was inside. The only reason I noticed was I went to mow the lawn the next day and saw it. There is an infrared port on the front, they could easily use their IR device and add KWh to my bill, or god knows what. Needless to say, they cant use it anymore, all it takes is a little goo or grease on the front, and the IR port cannot be read from the outside. Also, I leave the dog out all the time, so they wont come in the backyard again. I guess them boys will have to go back to binoculars, because I wont fix it, and have informed the wife to shoot first, warn later when it comes to trespassers, in uniform or not. If anybody wants access to the property it it common sense to inform the owner. Where I grew up, the guy who was caught changing my meter without telling us would have been lynched in the front yard as a display to all those who would trespass in the future…

      pro freedom Reply:

      OHHH MYYY GEOOD!

    49. Free? Me? hahaha Says:

      I do wonder about these intensely religious postees.

      Will you be joining the rest of us on the barricades when the time comes or will you simply be praying for us whilst sitting back and waiting for God to make it all better?

      Just curious.

      yellowhak1 Reply:

      FREE? ME? LOL!

    50. REVOLUTION II Says:

      They are already doing this to everyone in TANEY COUNTY, Missouri . There are also plans to put METERS on our “PRIVATE” WATER WELLS !!!!!!

    51. dewk Says:

      I got 2 on my house. It will keep the meter-readers away

    52. Sage Says:

      And if you should happen to use more power than the gubmint thinks you should, they will just switch off your power. Won’t even have to come out to do it either.
      And guess what folks? This is headed to Amerika, too. Test runs are done in Britain, and when nobody protests, we get it here.

    53. pro freedom Says:

      For earthday my darling `15 year old daughter, tuned all the lights on for earth hour a couple months ago . It was assigned by her teacher for extra credit to turn the lights out. She did research on the WWF, PLANES TO DEPOPULATE THE WORLD AND WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF THE WHOLE OPPERATION. And printed it out and handed it in.
      If truth were to prevail, we would not be in this slave gridd. If Tesla and Edison to the scores of independent thinkers were allowed to be free,, this spark of life would be so much brighter than it is here in the dark ages. Deepest respect to all those blooms of humanities tree out there who are so sorrowfully lost in the decrepid lie and dark shadows of the overlords.

    54. IRC_sum Says:

      We agreed to try this on our house. I freaked the first two times the power went out immediately following my posting remarks highly critical of government. I have since chalked that up to coincidence and my vivid imagination.

    55. laura brown Says:

      YA DONT OBEY THEM—TAKE THE MARK—THEY SHUT YOU OFF THE GRID!!! NICE THINGS ON THE HORIZON!! CANT WAIT IM TAKING CARE OF MY NEEDS NOW I WONT NEED THEIR STUPID POWER OR ANY OF THEIR CRAP

    56. OGALY MOGALY Says:

      Put a powerful magnet next to a meter and it can be made to stop or run in reverse. Fun facts for inquiring minds..

    57. Myfriendscallmetiny Says:

      I imagine some industrious person will come up with a device to heat or cool the area around the thermostat – hey someone knock it out – oh and how about those great little solar panels that plug into the power system – screw the nanny state bastards.

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    60. Shapovalov Says:

      Долго искал ответ на этот вопрос. Спасибо.

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