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Everything About Nidal Malik Hasan Screams “Patsy”
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Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Friday, November 6, 2009
The Empire strikes back – right when when public support for the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan sinks to all time lows, an anti-war Islamic extremist with links to suicide bombers goes on a shooting rampage at a U.S. army base, reinvigorating support for the war on terror and demonizing opposition to it as anti-American extremism. The scam would be believable if it wasn’t so perfectly staged.
Without getting into convoluted conspiracy theories about mind control and whatever else, not that they aren’t without merit, the facts we already know about Hasan and his behavior prior to the deadly shootings just screams out “patsy” and “set-up” and almost exactly mirrors other terror scams the Empire has run in the past.
Just like the would-be liquid bombers that were supposedly planning on bringing down multiple airliners in August 2006, who were caught on CCTV buying bulk supplies of cake in the very hours before the plot, Hasan’s pre-shooting behavior contradicts completely the idea that he was preparing for a deadly rampage.
Shortly before the massacre, Hasan was caught on camera shopping at the convenience store located on the army base – laughing and joking. Is this the behavior of a man psychologically readying himself for the high-intensity horror of gunning down dozens of his colleagues, or someone unaware of what was to follow?
We learn that Hasan “Showed no signs of worry or stress when he stopped at 7-Eleven for his daily breakfast of hash browns, said Jeannie Strickland, the store’s manager.” ” He came in (Thursday) morning just like normal,” she said, “nothing weird, nothing out of the ordinary.”
CNN feverishly seized upon the CCTV footage and began broadcasting it relentlessly because Hasan is seen wearing Arab garb and Muslim headdress, fitting the carefully pre-arranged stereotype perfectly.
The Smiling Assassin? Hasan’s pre-rampage behavior is completely at odds with the idea of him preparing to massacre more than a dozen of his colleagues.
Just like the 7/7 bombing patsies who were filmed laughing and joking, getting into arguments and generally doing everything a terrorist would want to avoid, Hasan’s pre-attack behavior should set alarm bells ringing.
Just like the 7/7 bombing patsies and the liquid bombing patsies, the description of Hasan by those reinforcing the official characterization of him as a vengeful jihadist is completely at odds with how his own family members described him.
Hasan’s cousin laughed when an interviewer asked him if the shooter was “violent.”
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“He was just normal, loved sports, never got into trouble.” He said his family was “shocked and baffled” by the incident.
“His parents didn’t want him to go into the military,” Mr. Hasan said. “He said, ‘No, I was born and raised here, I’m going to do my duty to the country.’ ”
The backdrop behind Hasan’s alleged motive for the rampage also represents an inch-perfect staging for subsequent characterization of those opposed to the war on terror as lunatics, crackpots and extremists.
In the hours after the event, we were told that Hasan was upset about being deployed to Iraq at the end of the month. This then mutated into the notion that Hasan was “anti-war” and later we were informed that he was “facing an FBI investigation for expressing sympathy with suicide bombers.” The fact that this was known by authorities six months ago and still Hasan was not only allowed to remain at the Army base, but also invited to participate in Homeland Security exercises only raises more red flags.
Then the lurid details really began to pour in to reinforce the Islamic terrorist stereotype – Hasan screamed “Allah Akbar!” before opening fire, he made “outlandish comments concerning U.S. foreign policy.”
As Michael Yaki highlights, the media characterization of Hasan as a Muslim terrorist was assumed by default, and almost from the first moment it seemed as though news anchors were reading from a script prepared well in advance.
“Once the name of the protagonist was established, the blogs lit up and the talking heads immediately turned to the “terrorist” word. Anderson Cooper repeatedly referred to Hasan as an “American Muslim.” I somehow don’t see Cooper referring to the Columbine killers, Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris as “American Protestants.” Yet, front and center, the media began their speculation on whether Hasan was a “recent convert” to Islam, what websites he visited, and whether “outside influences” — code words for Imams and terrorist recruiters — had compelled him to walk onto the base and begin his shooting rampage. Indeed, the media was playing {and replaying} up the fact that he was shown wearing “traditional” Arab garb earlier in the day as he bought some coffee, although other footage from the day before showed him wearing hospital scrubs — which thus far has never made the endless loop on CNN.”
Pointing out the fact that every other killer in U.S. history was described as a “mass murderer” and not a terrorist, Yaki slams the media’s contrived and “implied presumption (that) Hasan appears to be terrorist unless proven otherwise.”
Why were initial reports of three shooters reversed? Why were two alleged shooters taken into custody but quickly released? Was Hasan framed?
When the dust settles on yesterday’s tragic events at Fort Hood it may indeed turn out to be the case that Nidal Malik Hasan was a lone nut seeking to exact revenge for what he saw as perpetual war crimes being carried out against the people of Iraq and Afghanistan. If that is the case, it doesn’t make such crimes acceptable nor does it mean all people who oppose the war on terror are likely to go on a shooting rampage.
However, from all the evidence that has emerged thus far, and in comparing it with other terror scams in the past where patsies have been deliberately groomed and set up to be the fall guys for false flag attacks, everything we know about yesterday’s events suggests that there is infinitely more to the story of Nidal Malik Hasan than meets the eye.
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November 6th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Not Patsy, but sleeper cell. He was fed up and broke before his time. The bad guys aren’t all so in tune that they themselves don’t crack.
Marie Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 9:47 am
I agree with the sleeper cell. I think it’s time for the military to start asking some hard questions before it’s to late.
BREAKIN WIND Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:37 am
yes i agree also and the first question need to be asked to our president he is a sleeper cell also
Q Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Remember Remember the fifth of November Guy forks!!! V for vendetta
Kat Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:15 am
If you are going to use a historical figure as your example, learn to spell the name correctly.
clickme Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Lenin declared, “We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class.” His partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: “The interests of the revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class.” Who were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not J***. Trotsky gave a clue to their identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily Forward: “The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere.”
The top Communist Judaic official Zinoviev stated: “Without mercy, without sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be thousands; let them drown themselves in their own blood. For the blood of Lenin and Uritzky, Zinoviev and Vólodarsky, let there be floods of the blood of the bourgeoisie–more blood! As much as possible!” (Krasnaya Gazeta, Sept. 1, 1918).
Q Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
forks fuck fawkes…. its all just a bunch of bull shit
Snowcrash Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
09.11 50.41 30.50
jyg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
In cases like these, the patsies are pre-selected and shot or killed and hence they cannot defend their innocence. In other words, they massacre a bunch of people and carefully chooose one victim to blame (think CHO). Nobody talks about it anymore but do you remember the cops barracading the area and standing around while gunshots are going into people inside?
IF this guy lived, he’ll likely be espousing his innocence. If they just killed him or put in a look-alike we’ll never know.
It’s hard to not see all the contradictions and “lucky timing” with these things.
Oh and by the way Harris and Kleibold – at least one was a jew, so no they didn’t say “protestants”
ms_freedom Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Guy Fawkes
Miguel Grande Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
I found this on another website. It makes alot more sense.
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Written by Mouser
“In Washington, a senior U.S. official said authorities at Fort Hood initially thought one of the victims who had been shot and killed was the shooter. The mistake resulted in a delay of several hours in identifying Hasan as the alleged assailant.”
The truth is probably something VERY different. For example:
‘Two US privates John Smith and John Henry had been seeing a military psychiatrist major Hasan at Fort hood for a few weeks. Both privates said they were completely against the war of oppression in the middle east and would refuse to report for active duty if ordered to do so.
So the army put them both in therapy with Dr. Hasan. After more than five weeks of therapy both Christian privates were called to go to Afghanistan. Both privates warned they would not go and they would defend themselves with force if the army tried to force them to fight in a war they believed was morally wrong.
Yesterday fellow soldiers tried to surprise the two conscientcious objectors but the privates were prepared and killed 12 soldiers who tried to force their way into the privates’ barracks at Fort Hood.
During the melee their psychiatrist major Hasan, tried to talk the two privates into surrendering but he was shot twice.
Finally both privates were overcome and killed. Their psychiatrist major Hasan is in hospital recovering.’
Officials of the military have spun the story to make it seem the privates’ doctor (who has a muslim sounding name) was the perpetraitor so that the public does not understand just how much resistance there is to the middle east war in the military rank and file.
The whole official Fort Hood cover story is 98% a lie – just like 9/11. Do you trust the main stream media for the truth in a story like this? Heck, for any story?
david Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Curious that Hasan and Cho went to Virginia Tech
Scott Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Local talk radio in Kent, OH had a listener state that a relative was a medic on sight. He said that there were four ’shooters’: one dead, one in hospital and two in custody!
KC Patriot Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 12:39 am
I just finished watching that movie.
Gandhi Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 2:13 am
I wonder if the FEDs will bother to put nidal’s finger prints on the guns like they did with oswald in the morgue.
Julian Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 9:25 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQRuMIa-R7s
Divide and Conquer is a very simple but very effective technique the elites use to control people. There has been a lot of focus on the problem, reaction, solution technique of control over the past few years after 911 but divide and conquer has been neglected.
There is a lot of evidence that the elites are into the occult but one of the main beliefs that occultic societies as well as the Eastern religions, such as Buddhism and Hinduism, have is the concept of polarization. The elites didn’t create polarization but they exploit and reinforce it as much as possible and they combat awareness by increasing the amount of tension between the polar opposites.
The more awareness there is the more tension the elites manufacture to suppress it. The divide and conquer technique of control is based on the illusion of polarization and the only way to defeat the elites is to transcend polarization.
Want to know more about forks? Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Guy Fawkes was a patsy.
Psyop Narrator Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:48 am
all this agreement makes me feel so warm and fuzzy
ROBIN_HOOD Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
of course B.O. is a “sleeper” along with his Zionist goons Rahm Emanuel, et al… ( :- ( }
Wendy Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Rahm Emanuel and his brother are not Zionists. They are anti-Israel.
jerseygirl Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
I’ve read that their parents were Zionists.
Scott Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
No, the Are zionists with means they are anti-Jew!
MesaysI Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
More shootings today in Orlando,hhmmm…Sounds like scheme..Keep hold of your guns..They will be coming for them soon.
educated simian Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 3:37 am
Just a history lesson for those who don’t know.
Guy Fawkes. Most people only know the V for Vendetta referance but there is so much more history involved.
GF was not a sleeper cell. He was part of Catholic coup in 1605 who attempted to blow up King James (of The Bible fame) and his family. At that time England was Protestant and to be a Catholic was against the law.
A group of Catholics engaged in what has now been named The Gunpowder Plot. Over 30 Barrels of gunpowder was set in an armory under Westminster Palace and was set to be exploded. Word was leaked and Guy Fawkes was caught gaurding the assassination stash. He was put to death and Catholic emancipation wasn’t realized fro well over a hundred years after this event.
Guy Fawkes day is now celebrated ironically by fireworks.
So before you cite Guy Fawkes of V for Vendetta, know this history and know that any citation about either of these references is purely BS in relation to the shooting in the ‘Hood.
D Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
The president is asleep behind the wheel. We The People are collectively going down a greased bob sled ramp with nobody leading at the helm.
So Cal Navy Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
you guys are retarded. I’ve met muslims in tampa before i joined that were really pro america–and that was rite after 9/11. You dont make it to 0-6 and do this stuff. Even on my last cruise, I met a colonel (05 for anyone else) in the clergy. Even he didn’t want to be there, but he was. And you forget one important thing. You cant and wont just get promoted like that and just go kill people. It take an act of congress to promote those guy.
S8nSux Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Sorry SoCal Navy. Major in the Army is an O-4. Titles of rank are different in the Army. 0-! = 2nd Lieutenant, 0-2 = 1st Lieutenant, 0-3 = Captain, 0-4 = Major, 0-5 = Lt. Colonel, 0-6 = Full Bird Colonel, 0-7= Brig General, which I think I remember correctly is = to your Admiral?
RogueTek Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
So Cal Navy. You net a colonel on a cruise? so what service was he in because the is no colonel rank in the Navy and an 05 is a Commander(Cdr). IF he was a Marine he would have been a Lt. Colonel and doubt there was an Army officer on the cruise, not to say it hasn’t ever happened but not very likely and I never the Navy having any shortage of clergy. Also learn to use proper word usage, it’s not “rite after” but “right after”. I smell a rat that is telling a tall tale.
There is no doubt that there are Muslim anti-American “sleepers” in the US military and I totally agree with the other that this was one and he cracked before his time. I would not be surprised if there was a sudden rash of this type of thing happening.
patrick Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
he was probably a Marine, When I was in the Navy we had many Marines interspersed with Navy Detachments.
Captain A Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
S8nSux You are correct. And Rogue, you are also correct. Chances are that Socal met a marine Lt Col. Since they are usually battalion commanders and yes, it is rare to find army personnel on a naval ship. In so far as the incident goes, my feeling is that he (shooter) may have been a “manchurian candidate” type of sleeper. Remember, Ft Hood is known for it’s black ops works, mk-ultra and other mind control activities.
dictionary Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
What exactly is a sleeper cell? is it different from mind control?
Md Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Um, go look it up in the dictionary?
RND Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
A ’sleeper cell’ in more official term a person that is supposed to infiltrate an enemy group and then complete their mission later on having a trusted position within that group or society wherever that may be… completing their mission any time from months to even decades later. In a mind control context, which I suppose it is implied here, that person does the above whilst being completely unaware of such plan, and then a trigger – or access key is used to initiate the “program.” These assassinating mind control subjects are often called ‘deltas’ or just ‘killers’ for short. Given Hasan’s background this is an obvious case of such.
However I may be wrong, and the people may be suggesting he was a sleeper cell from a real terrorist group. Such operation would be far less suitable than the mind control, of which Hasan has been in a excellent position to receive. Attention should be paid to the people that he killed as it is likely that they would be important also.
Rush Limbo Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Oh sure he is innocent. Muslims dont hate america or christians. The goverment brainwashed him. It must be a FALSE FLAG opreration. You all are stupid morons. Muslims are at war against christian west. If you dont believe that you are a idiot. Oh but of course white christian man bad, MUSLIM- JEW AND CHRISTIAN KILLER GOOD. HENRY GOT IT RIGHT.
They are here waiting for orders. Many sleeper cells.
Matins Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:21 am
News flash, moron, every major religion on the face of this planet has blood on its collective hands. Christians are just as violent, murderous, intolerant, and loathsome as any Muslim extremist. The only difference is, in the vast majority of cases, they have government sanction to commit their crimes and are lauded as heroes for their butchery.
Religious extremism is a cancer that has long eaten away at the core of mankind’s sanity. Extremists should be excised regardless of the doctrine they follow.
The cross, the star of David, the star and crescent – they are all symbols of evil.
blissJesus Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Sir,
A Christian is a person like Stephen, who had rocks thrown at him until he was dead. The last thing he ever said was “Lord, lay this sin, not to their charge.” I am aware, that so called religions have done some really human crap(i.e. not spiritual), but they were, and are not Christians.
Thank you, record strait
JAH Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
The only true Christians are the ones who refuse to kill for anyone or any government and they are called witnesses of JAH…. Soon JAH will speak from the heavens and identify who His witnesses are… and all humans will beat themselves in regret for not listening to the witnesses who knocked at their doors.
IDIOT Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Catholics are Christians and they led the crusades that killed many many people in the name of religion, so don’t spew that load of shit…and don’t come back and say they are not christians because i am catholic and i am a christian you fool
UK Expat Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
blissJesus, with a name like that you should study your history better, The christians started the crusades to kill the muslims, religion has been at the heart of warfare ever since it was INVENTED to keep the masses under control
Actually Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Actually, Catholicism is the opposite of Christianity. They say the Pope is “God on Earth” (with the ability to overrule God’s laws, for instance changing the Sabbath to Sunday – and don’t give me that “Peter was the first Pope” nonsense, I’ve read your own church writings)…. And they don’t follow the Bible. So don’t blame Christianity for the crimes of the Catholic church.
M Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
‘IDIOT’, “Actually” is right, Catholicism has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity other than the fact that they claim they are Christians. If you seriously think otherwise, then your user-name truly does suit you.
Outlaw Josey Wales Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
I love the Catholic Church. Every day the Catholic Church feeds more people, educates more people, takes care of more sick people, clothes more people, houses more people, and visits more imprisoned people than any organization on earth could ever hope to. The Catholic Church is our only hope against evil because that is its God given mission. As Jesus Christ said, Apart from me you can do nothing. Our Lady of Fatima pray for us. Remember to pray the daily Rosary. Vivat Christus Rex, tenete traditionis.
Actually Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
@Outlaw Josey Wales
I hate the Catholic Church. Every day the Catholic Church feeds on more people, molests more children, ignores more scripture, and promotes the spirit of Antichrist more than any organization on earth could ever hope to. The Catholic Church is evil because that is its mission. As Jesus Christ said, Call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Canis intrat et circumspectat (Latin for “the dog goes in and looks all around”.)
Fixed that for you.
MartinLucifer Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
For many centuries the words ‘Catholic’ and ‘Christian’ were synonymous. (Hint: the two words had an equivalent meaning.)
It wasn’t until the 16th century that protestants came on the scene to corrupt the Gospel.
LukeAir2009 Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 4:52 am
The Roman Catholic Church was founded by the sun-worshipping Emperor Constantine in an attempt to unite the Roman Empire under one religion. He took what was left of christianity, grafted in lots of pagan philosophy, and created Roman Catholicism – the Church of Rome.
The Reformation was an attempt by sincere men to ‘reform’ the totally corrupt Catholic church and return to the doctrines and practices of the Church of Jesus Christ described in the New Testament.
The Roman Catholic Church does not have Apostolic Succession. Its a myth. Peter was an Apostle not a Bishop. He was crucified in AD64. John was the last remaining Apostle. Apostles and Prophets are the foundation of the church (Ephesians 2:20) not bishops. Whatever authority and keys Peter and the Apostles had were never passed on. There is a man of sin today sitting on a throne in the temple or house of god, showing himself that he is god, as foretold by Paul. (2 Thes 2:4)
Universal Church Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 8:06 am
Catholic means Universal. There is NO synonymy between Catholic and Christian. Christian means “little Christ”. Catholic’s mission is to Unite all, Christ’s mission was to separate. He gave a means to an end. A way to separate the sheep from the wolves. We are to be in the world, but not of the world.
Eric Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Wrong. Catholics have blood on their hands, not true Christians. BAPTISTS
SpeedRacer Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Baptists aren’t true Christians because they don’t have Apostolic succession. They don’t have sacraments and the full Gospel like Catholics do. Baptists are witnesses to the disunity in the Church and as such they should be ignored.
Actually Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
“Apostolic succession”? Is that what you call Roman Caesars appointing themselves as your first popes? Catholicism was merely an attempt to co-opt Christianity. And you are a tool.
Russ L. Smith Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
There was a couple hundred years where one might have considered there to have been a christian catholic church, but it was overcome by political interests and wack philosophy by the time of the Arian Controversy. This was the first great split of the original church built by the Apostles and their followers. True christians henceforth were considered heretics and BarbArians by the apostate but official orthodox church. They’ve hunted down and chased true Christisanity all over Europe, to the Great Isle, north to the highlands, and finally driving them across the sea to safety in the wilderness of the New World…America.
There’s no where left to go folks. We must turn and face the usurper, and with the power of the redeemer…kick it’s ass.
Gaffer Interpreter Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Christians are no better than killers from other religions? Well, that’s YOUR theory.
Christian violence is usually done the right way, as a defensive action. Muslims, Jews, Hindus, and the others use violence in the wrong way, out of hate for truth and goodness.
muscara Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Well, remember the inquisition,the crusades against Eastern Europe, the massacres of natives in the Americas,all done by fake Christians. World was I, world war II. I can go on and on.
Jesse Toler Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
@Gaffer: The issue, ballsack, is that right now, at this instant, Muhammadans are murdering Americans on our own soil and you are blaming us.
Antz Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Criminal elements within the US Govt murdered thousand of people on your own soil, and you blamed the “muhammadans”
thatgirl Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
True Christianity is not a denomination. It’s the way you live.
And speaking of Catholics, look more closely at Bible prophecy and the pope… The pope/the papacy fit all the requirements for the Anti-Christ.
LukeAir2009 Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 5:01 am
When you say ‘true christianity’ I think you mean pretend christianity. You have to ignore most of what the Bible says to accept your version of true christianity. What about the organization of the church? What about the authority given to the Apostles? What about the ordinances of the church? Baptism by immersion? Laying of of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost? And Im not talking about the false catholic church. The true church ceased to exist and the only way it can come back, as Baptist Roger Williams and Methodist John Wesley said, is if Christ returns and restores it as it was.
samuel davis Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Islam is a religion based on the Koran and their leader/prohet Mohammed. In the Koran it is preached “Death to all infidels”. Infidels are ALL non Muslim/Islam believers. So ANYONE non-muslim is to be killed or converted…NO OTHER RELIGION, to date, has that mandate…yes there have been mass murders in the name of religion/God, BUT..NEVER, until Islam, has there been a religion that preaches and trains their members to kill all people that don’t believe the way they do….
I have read the Koran, only to find out for myself if that was really a part of the Islam religion. I saw it with my own two eyes. If you don’t believe me..read it for yourself…this is very scary…the muslim community has systematically taken over many nations, The Dutch, the French, the UK, and they are working on America….and it is Sharia Law that they follow adn will try to get a government, through shear numbers, to convert to the Sharia Law….carefull people, that you don’t fall into the trap of being too PC and over look vital RED FLAGS, as I believe the military did here….think about it….we haven’t had a terrorist attack since 9-11 on American soil, till…possibly now…why is that? Perhaps our own government is so out of touch, or maybe too sympathetic to the Isalm community, that our ability to protect ourselves has been greatly diminished….Just my thoughts and research findings…….
quaintvilliageamerica Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
No other religion? How would you interpret these gems from the talmud —
Noahide Law number 2 ‑ “Thou shalt not blaspheme God.”“Extermination of
a Christian is a necessary sacrifice to God.” Zohar (II, 43a)
“Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless, (non‑Jews) is
doing the same as making a sacrifice to God.” (Talmud: Bammidber raba c
21 & Jalkut 772)
“It is the law to kill
anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones
of the Torah.” Talmud:Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5
“A jew who kills a Christian commits no sin, but offers an acceptable
sacrifice to God.” (Abhodah Zarah 26b Tosephoth)
“When the Messiah comes, all will be slaves of the Jews.” (Talmud, Erubin
43b)
If this is true , it sure looks like open season on Christians .
WTF Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:28 am
I think you,ll find the opposite is true, we are at war with them. Just keep watching TV and you,ll soon see the real big spin start to develop.
Kat Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:16 am
FYI – not all muslims are at war. Extremists are at war. There is a difference.
If not, then you need to start berating Christians for executing doctors and gay people in their war.
Patrick Henry Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
I use the name because he is my great, great, great, great, great uncle. Sorry I left out the A. Now Kat, go back to sleep.
ROBIN_HOOD Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
sorry to say you’re wrong…and I love PH…however, they need fuel to keep this unjust war going…it’s about POPPY FIELDS…and weapons…big money for these bastard banksters/Gov’t officials…
Kat Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
I am a direct descendant of the first governor of Rhode Island, the only colony founded on the principle of relgious freedom. That doesn’t do shit for my credibility and Patrick Henry does nothing for yours.
Isaiduseplastic-sheets2Bsafe Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
EXCUSE ME!!
Catholics are not Christians!
Don’t need any guy with a stupid pointy hat riding around in a Pope Mobile whose gonna tell me anything about the true God of the Bible
SpeedRacer Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
That guy in the stupid pointy hat is the legal vicar of Christ, Christ’s chosen representative on earth. Ignore him and you ignore Christ, and Christ said that he would ignore those who ignore him. Repent.
Actually Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
No he’s not. He’s a malevolent old prick who rides around in his bulletproof Popemobile because he doesn’t have faith in God.
Kat Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Catholics are another sect of CHRISTIAN. Just because you don’t agree with them doesn’t make them Christian. Only GOD gets to decide that.
LukeAir2009 Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 5:07 am
It was the stupid guys in the pointy hats who gave you the Bible. Pope Damasus I assembled the first list of the books of the Bible at the Council of Rome in AD382. The Bible is a catholic invention. There’s more books locked up in their vatican archives that they don’t want you to see than are in the Bible.
fdd Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
White people are at war with humanity!!
M Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
There are Muslim extremists and Christian extremists. These two groups should never be associated with true Christians and Muslims.
WALKSWITHWISEMEN Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
RELIGIOUS PROPAGANDA INTENDED TO KEEP THE SERFS AT WAR !
WATCH WHAT YOU BELIVE, DON’T BELEIVE WHAT YOU WATCH !
seriously? Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Muslims believe in Jesus as the savior just like Christians. Jews are still waiting for their antichrist dajjal “chosen savior” to come. You should look into religions before you start spewing out propaganda bullshit about them. Learn the truth!
S8nSux Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Muslims do not believe Jesus (Isa) is the saviour. Al-Mahdi is the savior. Jesus is the prophet that will come back and help Mahdi by removing all the crosses from the steeples of the churches and defer to Mahdi. Get an education!
joseph2651 Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Muslims do believe in Jesus as Lord and Savior. But we believe that the Mahdi and Jesus will be together in the Judgment.
MAD DOG Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
WELL I BELIEVE
YOU ARE ALL NUTS.
JESUS IS DEAD, IF HE EVER EXISTED AT ALL.
HE’S NOT COMING BACK, HE WASN’T GOD, THE SON OF GOD, THERE ARE NO GODS, NO VAMPIRES, NO WERWOLF’S AND NO ALIEN LIZARD BEINGS HERE ON EARTH.
THERE IS NO HELL, NO HEAVEN AND YOU SURE AS HELL DON’T GET 72 VIRGINS FOR BLOWING YOURSELF UP.
THERE’S NOTHING HERE BUT US MAMMALS AND INSECTS.
GET USED TO IT.
JaDE Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
I have a question… What is perfect? Only one answer should come to mind… The answer is infinitely complicated, but at the same time, infinitely uncomplicated. Let’s see your answers
MAD DOG Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
HOWS THIS
YOU ARE FKEN STUPID.
IS THAT UNCOMPLICATED ENOUGH FOR YA ?
WHO SAYS EVERYTHING HAS TO BE COMPLICATED ?
THE FOUNDERS FORMED A NEW COUNTRY AND A BRAND NEW SOCIETY ON 1 PIECE OF PAPER !
Watcher Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
In answer to JaDE: A vacuum is perfect because it contains nothing, therefore is unable to be tainted. I know what you’re after, but I’m not going to say it. What you’re thinking of is an emotion, subject to influence and degree of intensity. But you and Actually are the only smart ones on here.
Isaiduseplastic-sheets2Bsafe Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Seriously
The Muslims don’t believe in Jesus (whose true name is Yahweh BTW) as being the son of God and being God himself having come in the flesh. They just think he was a good prophet.
If Yah showed up today and he said that he was the son of God, The Muslims would fight over who was going to blow him up first before the Scribes and Pharasees could even find the nails to hammer him to the cross
oland Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Use proper terminology. An extremist Christian would be extremely peaceful.
MAD DOG Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
A RABID FOAMING AT THE MOUTH BIBLE TOTING LUNATIC YOU MEAN.
Buzz Hacksaw Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
See how they fall for it.
Suckers!
Buzz
Jesus is a black woman named Frank Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 4:18 am
An extremist Christian would be extremely stupid.
Think about it……
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
you idiots responded to this trash with criticisms of Christianity. Geez, talk aobout reactionary fucking idiots. You guys are dumber than the first fucker
MAD DOG Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
ATLEAST WE DONT BELIEVE IN FAIRYS.
fdd Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
White devils are killing everybody on the planet!!!
Johnny Canuck Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Those guys that supposedly did 911, were seen in bars boozing it up, making anti-America statements, leaving Koran books everywhere and just being obnoxious. Also luggage was found and the passport of one of them at 911, a site where everything was powderized. Yeah, I believe that shit too!
Actually Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Johnny, thanks for the link to that documentary yesterday. Awesome!
Marc Stinebaugh Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Sleeper cell? HAHAHAHAHA! Are you kidding me?! HAHAHAHAHA! Sounds more like you’re part of a stupid cell, or maybe the largest sleeper cell, all the people who haven’t woken up to what is really going on out here. You’re the one who’s asleep, wake up.
Miz T Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Could it be this was staged to take our eyes off the healthcare bill, Iran, the rising unemployment, etc.?
FreedomSeeker Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:34 am
whats going on in Ukraine?
Antonio Barajas Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:08 am
I also agree that he may be a sleeper cell. The fact the seems to lead me to feel this way, is the fact that he was at Virginia Tech. It may be a long reach, but there may be more information found there.
ROBIN_HOOD Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
look at the photos…he is relaxed…smiling…does this look like a guy about to commit murder/suicide? P.S. “Lie to me” all about facial expressions…
Jesse Toler Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
@RobinHood: Yes, he looks like a Muhammadan all dressed up in the white clothes of a martyr about to kill himself some inidels.
YouCan'tBeSerious Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Believing in global warming is like believing in astrology.
hopi Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
yes, the virginia tech thing got my hackles up too. maybe that’s where he was inducted as a mind control subject? seems like a bit of a coincidence that more than one mass killer would be bred at the same institution.
TX Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:15 am
“Silence, I kill you.” —Achmed, the dead terrorist (Nidal, the “dead” terrorist’s long-lost brother.)
WEIRD Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:27 am
This guy was a Psychiatrist who was being paid $100k + per year. As well as an EXPERT MARKSMAN with pistol’s?
Why use sleeper cells when you have 20 millions illegal aliens crossing the border at will daily?
MeJane Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:28 am
My thoughts exactly!
S8nSux Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
While I agree the southern border needs to be sealed, illegals have nothing to do with this false flag event designed to strip the military of personally owned firearms. The beginning of this happened this past summer. Remember when they were required to fill out additional paperwork to ‘register’ their guns? this is the beginning of the great take away.
Breaking News!! Another mass shooting in the civilian world in Orlando, Fl. Home of the fantasy world of Disney. We get enuf of these and the regular civilian will beg big brother to disarm them!!
ROBIN_HOOD Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
exactamundo….
matt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:30 am
JEFF DUNHAM SUCKS BALLS. Comedy Central is as much a part of the media machine as any other channel and now I get why they have been racheting up the racist anti-Muslim and immigrant stuff lately.. not that im not against illegal immigration, but still, the point is they are as much involved in dividing individuals against each other by using stereotypes and generalizations.. Besides all that, that guy is not funny at all, completely generic garbage humor puppet show for adult children… the art of comedy needs a new Hicks and Carlin.. other than Stanhope
Bill Swensen Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Jeff Dunham does suck balls… But what do you mean by “other than Stanhope”? Is that good or bad?
Charlie Frost Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
BAAHAHAHAHA!!!! Good one, Achmed!
No Terror Cell here, just a patsy sacrificed to whip up outrage in the ‘amerikan public’ against Muslims and promote hate wars that will be WW3.
Don’t be an idiot and think ‘homegrown terrorists’ are real. Hell, he ain’t even blonde or blue eyed.
Seriously, how can any of you people read and/or listen to this site and say terror cell? PULL YOUR HEARS OUT!!
This happened on the anniversary of Guy Fawkes Day (1601, England) and it is just the same-Guy was a patsy then, and NWO history repeats itself ever so transparently.
Go to http://www.Prisnoplanet.com and read Webster Tarpley’s review of Guy Fawkes Day, and learn a little something about the lethal hoax that was just played out here in TX.
People, get with the program, already.
Remember, you heard it here forst. from Charlie Frost.
OhCrapNotAgain Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
This is an inside job, no doubt! Two shooters that ran, and poor Hassan as the patsy, lone gunman wingnut, radical muslim, military member gun owner, facebook ranter, poor soldier with radical leanings, etc etc, how much further should I go. As I watched the crap unfolding on Faux news yesterday, I truly found it amazing how much info they had on this guy literally within 30 minutes. Almost like someone dropped a box off at bureau HQ. New “info” on the “shooter” every few minutes. Almost as if someone was reading it off a grand scale playbook.
One thing everyone must remember, everytime there is a mass shooting, regardless of the reasons, the very first thing that happens is the medias call for gun control. Who better to disarm than our own military. Haven’t we already heard of this thing just this summer? Military members being forced to fill out additional forms to register their personal firearms? Remember who the terrorists are according to the dept of Human Sacrifice? Military members returning from theaters of war? This seriously stinks. It was less than an hour after the shootings that Faux news rolled out their favorite anti-gun poster child talking head, Shep Smith. Immediately he began railing on taking away personally owned firearms.
Ok, now lets take a good look at the events in question. But first take a look at my qualifications of what I speak. Vet. Ex-black Ops under G. H. W. B. (the reason I got out). Small arms expert. Even though it has been awhile since being active in the military, it hasn’t been awhile since being at the range. Handguns are limited range, limited power (except for certain large caliber wheel guns). Limited capacity. That is one of the keys here. You have 43 people shot. Already the first responders are saying on the news this morning that many of them were shot more than once. Most handguns with high capacity magazines, will hold between 15-17 rounds. Even if you have one “up the pipe”, how many times did he supposedly have to change mags? The standard M-9 Beretta hi-cap military mags, hold 15. Do the math! Even if he had 2 handguns, and two mags each at 15 rounds, plus an extra round in the chamber in each handgun, that makes 47 rounds total available. If we believe the reports that many of the wounded and dead had multiple shots, there is no way one guy could have pulled this off. You can’t control two handguns, change mags that many times, and make aimed shots that would take that many lives. I truly believe that the reason they said two handguns, is to make it seem more viable, that many shots could have been fired by a “lone gunman”. I guess average citizen might fall for that. Too many western movies of two gun gunslingers. Fact is, he would have been better off with a single auto, with multiple magazines. It takes two hands to operate a high capacity handgun. Sure you can fire single handed, but you can’t operate the mag release, and change mags, and operate the slide, while killing your fellow brothers in arms. It can’t be done, even by expert competition factory shooters. They carry one handgun, multiple mags, and shoot with both hands. Not to mention in order to stay that proficient, they shoot about 100,000 rounds a year. No way.
More likely, two expert shooters, stepped up behind the major, using him as the patsy and a human shield and opened up on the victims. Two shooters with multiple mags, could pull this off. One shooter with two handguns? No freaking way. This seriously stinks!!!
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Yep and who were the others? They never give those names, noooo just this clown
fredster Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Don’t forget, they’re reading off of a TelePrompTer also. That means the script had to be uploaded before they story even broke…..
chaosgods Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
I have to agree with “OhCrapNotAgain” reading the story on yahoo http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....d_shooting
“Officials are not ruling out the possibility that some of the casualties may have been victims of “friendly fire,” that in the confusion at the shooting scene some of the responding military officials may have shot some of the victims.”
Their already covering the weird math on the two handguns theory.
hopi Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
he was also a physician/psychiatrist. i doubt much of his training time was spent at the shooting range. he was busy carrying out his duties in a medical residency and then with seeing patients.
hardly fits the profile of an expert marksman.
he also went to virginia tech undergrad.
ROBIN_HOOD Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
excellent post…. ( ;- { )
FreeMasons At It Again Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:14 am
The occult signatures are all over this inside job of the army sacrificing their own. 31 is a reverse 13, 1:30 is a visual 13. Project Monarch inside job mind control patsy. This is just another stir stick in the pot and they want to create the Holy WWII of Christians against Muslims when it is the central bankers in the middle cashing in selling weapons and getting people to kill each other.
FreeMasons At It Again Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Whoops WWIII I meant
matt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:31 am
nail on the head..
seriously? Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Ashkenazi banksters claim to have Hebrew ancestry, they are satanists and luciferians who use uninformed people to kill one another. We should all put down the weapons and pick up the books.
seriously? Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
P.S.
Also burn all the money. It only divides and classifies all people. We live in an age of reason, what reason is there to use such an archaic system of control?!?! Freedom, truth, and love to all.
Realist Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:39 am
This is a sad event, I just hope Obama doesn’t use this as his reason to send more troops to Afghanistan. After all the reason we’re in Afghanistan is to find Osama right? Funny how we seem to forget this, time to bring our troops home.
Vox Mox Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Your brain seems to be a colony of sleeper cells. This guy was a psychiatrist, exposed to the stupid agenda of that nefarious profession. Most likely a patsy that was molded through use of psychotropic drugs. Early reports cite muliple shooters. He was activated for a ‘wag the dog’ scenario to take the heat off DC events
Aware Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Oh yes lets just forget about the fact that the FBI has known about this mans activity for the last six months and did nothing. This is no different then every other attack there was tons of evidence well before the attack to take action and nothing was done. This is just false flag business as usual.
Crito Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Believing in terrorist sleeper cells is a sign of paranoid schizophrenia.
Who knows what really happened at this point. What’s for certain is anti-Islamic racists are using this event to fuel genocidal rampages against innocent civilians in Iraq.
rot_soldier Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
The Christians started the crusades as an excuse to fight the Muslims because they had already started advancing across the world. But the real reason for the crusades was simply to seize more land.
Jesse Toler Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
@rot: The Chrisitans started the Crusades to stop Islamic armies that had been invading Christian lands for about 500 years. We weren’t ’seizing more lands’, just taking back what was stolen by the Muhammadans.
Bob Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Sleeper Cell? This sure shows howe many spooks are on this site!
Mr Johnson Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Patsy my Ass,,,,,,,,stop the bull shit…….The guy is a whacked out extremist. Did you read what he did prior to the shooting?
The Only Psycho I see is the author of this article, ,,,,,Paul Joseph Watson
Come-on Alex……stop the bull………….
streetcourt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
“The federal Bureau of Labor Statistics said 517 people were the victims of homicide in U.S. workplaces last year, 413 by gunshot.”
By Alex Johnson of msnbc.com with Catherine Corrigan, Daniel Linden, Jesse Rodriguez and Dax Tejera of NBC News.. NBC station WESH-TV of Orlando contributed to this report
Mass shootings in two days, bringing to forefront will help to take away your guns because of the above, “413 by GUNshot”.
Joey Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Horse-Hockey! Who’s the dumb-butt that thought this one up? He was caught red-handed in the act! Duh!
Debbie Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
People who go about “preparing” to fulfill their final wishes; be it suicide, homicide or any other crazy thing out there..often do go out and appear happy to the world around them..as if a tremendous weight or burden has been lifted off their shoulders….additionally, mental illness; such as bi-polar in some people will present itself in lows and highs; from depression to euphoria…..so to speculate because someone looks happy or appears normal must mean normal is what they are is not how mental illness works.
It is not a set up as the guy had problems in his past and witnesses (multiple; does this mean they are all conspiring against him to set him up) have said of his troubles with others and argumentative ways. As for relatives…they are never reliable as often they are blinded or embarrased by the individual and in a million years would never want to admit someone of their own kind or blood was mentally ill or capable of mass murder.
jerseygirl Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
You are correct about suicide victims. It is a well known fact that if a mentally ill or severly depressed person suddenly becomes very happy, it is a warning that they are about to do something. They have finally made up their mind and no longer have to carry the burden because soon it will all be over.
Watcher Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Debbie:
The guy was being deployed. Of course he was cleaning up his State-side affairs and saying goodbye to friends. I oppose war and have said it publicly. I’ll never kill anyone so why would anyone jump to the conclusion that this man who opposes war would contradict what he believes in? I understand how the ‘invaded’ feel and can equate exactly his understanding of suicide bombers being similar to the guy who falls on the grenade to save his buddies. The Vietnam War was, and still is, referred to by the Vietnamese as The American War.
The problem here is that Americans only see the world through a very narrow field of vision. Americans are the most indoctrinated people in the world and very few have the ability to see how foolish they look in their indignity and one-sided understanding of the world. Of course that is what the Chinese are counting on.
Talking about bipolar and mental conditions is a cop-out and (by some) a cover-up. Let’s ask Dr. Phil and have done with it. You’re assuming Hasan was the shooter and then qualify what you assume by spouting some medical knowledge. The entire premise of the above story sparking all this debate is that Hasan was set up. That assumption has more backing it up than the assumption a man opposed to war would suddenly start killing people, a psychiatrist would be bipolar and not be aware of it, the military not be aware of it, and a lone man could fire off more than 47 rounds from two handguns, reload (with his third arm?) numerous times in scant seconds, and still have the accuracy to kill 13 people and wound 30 others.
The reality check suggests that the official story coming out in bits of well-crafted pieces, is bogus.
Debborah Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 12:12 am
Sure , he didn’t want to kill anybody….that is why he was standing on a table with an
assault weapon aiming down and opening fire on innocent soldiers. I guess it depends on
how much of the Obama kool-aid you have been drinking. Let’s wait til the female civiialn officer is able to tell us the real story about how that coward shot her. Or do think she’s in on it too?
Watcher Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Deb:
For one thing, I don’t drink Obama Kool-aid, mostly because I’m not American. Secondly, your original post referred to bipolar people snapping. I’ve seen it happen and when somebody with bipolar disorder snaps, it’s quick and they don’t usually find two handguns and five or six magazines in their possession. And it’s short-lived.
A handgun is not an assault weapon. And yes, ballistics will tell the story. But it all depends on who is telling the story. In this case, the people telling the story may well be the ones who would benefit from a fabrication.
You’re quick to convict Hasan, who may well have been an innocent bystander. I’m not saying he didn’t do it. I’m saying the evidence to date doesn’t add up. You can be sure there were security cameras in the vicinity. If we don’t see footage from them, then conclude he was set up. If we see footage, then conclude Hasan did it.
groceriesforyourguns Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
fresh off ze press http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTMVWdL2R74 primer about gun control all your idiot friends and family should see
Bob Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
It’s simple, he was pre-programed. All it took was a Code Word from a passer by or a phone call to trigger him. The CIA has people like him all over the United States and the world ready to become killers, but unknowingly to themselves and unwillingly. They were subject to brainwashing, and through that process, they were given a pre-set code statement that once latter given to them, they become deadly. After receiving the code, their normal conscience is turned off and a killer conscience it turned on. And they don’t stop until the deed is done. Understand these people once turned on, are used to achieve agenda’s.
Some of you may remember the movie “Telefon” from (1977) staring Charles Bronson. It was about a Soviet Agent sent to the USA to stop Russian agents that were brainwashed and made to believe they were American citizens and placed into certain life styles all over the USA, and lead normal lives until they were activated by a phone call and certain words. Then they would carry out acts of Terror.
Here is a Utube video…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qg0w8qbBQo
Oathkeeper84 Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
…really? Not everything is perpetrated by the government. Believe it or not, some people just snap..especially soldiers. Take a guy that’s been discriminated against for being Muslim in the Army (happens a lot) and couple that with another deployment and conflicts with your personal beliefs and you have a powder keg sitting too close to a fire. I doubt this guy was a “patsy” and I doubt he was a “sleeper cell”. Probably just another Muslim gone extremist after years of taking and seeing shit he didn’t agree with. Too bad that officer didn’t land a fatal blow. I doubt this guy makes it long enough to see a court room.
ussa Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
I guess Osama Bin Laden gave him the order to make the hit from his walkie talkie in Afghanistan….lol
kyle Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 1:30 am
remember remember the fifth of november, the gunpowder treason and plot. i know no reason the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot.
Doc Holliday Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 2:51 am
Sleeper Cell? LOL!! You got to be kidding!! Sleeper Cell is an old term developed by the feds as propaganda after 911. Of course there were no sleeper cells. 911 was an inside job the the USA government. I suppose there are some muslims here who dream of a day when they fight against the new world order. But there are far more christians here who do that dreaming.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:33 am
My first thoughts as well
November 6th, 2009 at 9:42 am
he shot all those people with 2 hand guns?? Believe I heard it was a 9mm, how many rounds are in such a gun??
Johnnie Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Didn’t sound right from the get go. That many trained soldiers let one man with 2 pistols kill 13 and wound over 30. Many were killed by ‘friendly fire’. Friendly fire??? The two words don’t go together very well but there is something veeery suspicious!
matt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:33 am
yea honestly this is ridiculous.. thats what i was thinking.. arent there armed soldiers all over the place where this happen? i find it damn near impossible that the guy wasn’t popped in the dome by a sniper guard the second he tried to pull a gun out .. especially walking around looking like that
seriously? Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Looking like what? He was in U.S. military issued clothing.
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
armed? they only give them guns when they are overseas working for the big banksters
none are allowed to be armed on base except the MP’s and I’m sure they were having donuts at the time
steve Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:12 am
the news was reporting a sniper rifle was used yesterday…. what’s goin on?
Kat Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Eyewitness testimony changes under stress. It is the worst form of evidence but that is all the news can go on in the initial moments of an incident.
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Or, it’s like every other conspiracy, they have to make up new information because they f’d up
or its standard policy to confuse the mindless lemmings
Kat Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Everything isn’t a conspiracy.
Patrick Henry Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Why so serious Kat? You are very tense, do we need to worry about you as well? Cursing at others shows very real lack of restraint and concerns those of us who are only asking questions from the facts we have been given. No take that Prozac and have some dip.
matt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:33 am
lies… the usual
jeremiahIII Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Some can hold 18 rounds. One in the chamber as well, I think.
Rockefarter Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:51 am
my smith and wesson 9mm holds 16 in a clip plus you could put 1 in the chamber for 17 shots before replacing clips of 16. I timed myself and i discharged 7 clips for total of 113 rounds in 60 seconds
BDTR Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:52 am
A glock 17 holds 17 rounds in a standard magazine. They also have 33-round mags available.
OhCrapNotAgain Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
average high cap mag will have between 15-17 rounds. Ever try to operate two automatics, change mags, release slides etc, all at the same time? Can’t be done. But two expert shooters, each with one handgun and multiple mags, standing behind the poor patsy, could very easily pull this off, then run out the door and later get picked up by suits in Crown Vics. Lovely!
quaintvilliageamerica Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 12:07 am
He only used one of the two guns, and had to take time to reload, having fired over 100 rounds…..according to FoxNews
November 6th, 2009 at 9:45 am
15 Per clip
Rockefarter Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:47 am
my smith and wesson 9mm holds 16 in a clip plus you could put 1 in the chamber for 17 shots before replacing clips of 16. I timed myself and i discharged 7 clips for total of 113 rounds in 60 seconds.
Jake Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
standard military issue 9mm 92fs baretta holds 15 in the clip and one in the breach.
As per the Geneva convention, only full metal jacketed rounds can be used.
OhCrapNotAgain Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
totally possible to do with one gun and several mags, but can’t be done when that other required hand has a gun in it as well. This guy was set up!
November 6th, 2009 at 9:46 am
FOX just had a friend of his live on the phone contradicting the story line and he was cut off in the midst of his statement by a surprise commercial break.
matt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:35 am
LOL. i think if jihaders were really at the american empires throats like the gov says, they would probably target stuff like FOX News buildings haha.. at least they should.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Psychiatrists are required to undergo a lot of testing and gain exposure to psychiatric methods such as hypnosis.
No doubt this man was programmed by the military to generate further hatred for Muslims and further sympathy for storm troopers.
Kat Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Educate yourself. Psychiatrists have their own problems that aren’t brainwashing. Psychiatrists have on of the highest levels suicide, so its not a stretch to see them snap.
matt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:37 am
yeah you guys are jumping to conclusion… he was more likely framed or paid than “mind programmed”. cmon man think about.. he could even be part of an actual “terrorist cell”, but funded by the CIA or something for all you know.. but the conflicting stories seem to suggest a Kennedy type situation with more shooters being covered up and one guy used as a patsy
jerseygirl Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
The highest levels of suicide among professionals, whether you believe it or not, is dentists! Sounds crazy, I know, but I read about it and wouldn’t have guessed it is dentists. It seems that they feel that people don’t really see them as doctors, which does a number on their self esteem. Though, I haven’t heard of any pulling a gun on their patients.
quaintvilliageamerica Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 12:15 am
I didn’t know it was the highest.
I did hear though that the reason dentists end their lives is because of the pain they inflict on people as a result of the profession. I always tell my dentist that there is no other dentist I would be confident going to , because my visits are pain free thanks to him.
(I don’t want him to ever consider suicide )
Psyop Narrator Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:52 am
uh, no, psychiatrists are not “required” to undergo any testing at all.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:48 am
How long people are going to accept this ?!!?
When you’re going to rebel !?!
When?
Cuda Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:08 am
How much longer are we going to accept the millions of illegal sneeks that have squatted in our country, with no intentions of leaving? Fuck iraq and afganistan, get the millions of sneeks out our house! That’s what a patriot does, get they fuck asses out already, WTF! Our useless military fights wars for oil, while we get invaded by millions of illegal sneeks? How are millions of illegal sneek job scavengers in our house, and our military is in iraq and afganistan? Utter fraud and betrayl. This shit is digusting already. Illegal mexicans need to be rounded the fuck up. thats the deal. Fuck iraq fuck israel, fuck afganistan. Its nothing but fraud.
jcrew Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:57 am
cuda, there world will never change with this idea of “us” and “them”….. by your “logic”, all euros should return to europe and give the land to native americans.
matt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:40 am
wrong.. you don’t have to extrapolate that far back.. this isn’t about what’s right or fair.. its about enforcing CURRENT immigration law. the criminal government wants NAU so they will keep letting mexicans over the border
Kat Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:12 am
What the hell do illegal MExicans have to do with this? What do illegal anythings have to do with this?
The guy was a a LEGAL citizen.
jerseygirl Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Some of them are being allowed to join the military with the promise of amnesty after a certain amount of time served. Alot of these guys are from the street gangs. So if you think our own military wouldn’t attack us, think again. These particular guys would like nothing more than to give us a smiley face, that’s cut your throat in case you didn’t know. They’re doing it now to innocent US citizens and getting away with it. The way the govt. wants to handle criminal illegals, those that commit murder, is to deport them. BIG F’ING DEAL! Murder someone and you get sent back home! THAT’S BULLSHIT!!!!! What would happen to a LEGAL US citizen if they murdered another US citizen. Do you think they’d get a free trip to Disneyland?
waycoolsnoopy Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Could not possibly agree with you more! The notion that you are fighting wars in foreign lands and passively allowing your own country’s sovereignty to be massively violated makes zero sense.
seriously? Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
F.Y.I. All of the patriots and “founding fathers” were illegal aliens. Stop hating on people over some petty, redneck ideology! The world belongs to all of God’s children and creations! Stop thinking about supposed “problems” in a monetary (and greedy) sense. Open your eyes and your hearts!
jerseygirl Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
“Stop thinking about problems in a monetary (and greedy) sense??? Why don’t you tell that to the more than 15 MILLION UNEMPLOYED LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZENS, while more than 8 MILLION ILLEGALS ARE EMPLOYED IN THE US??? I guess it’s just being greedy not wanting to live in a tent or to feed your family. BTW, I’m not a redneck, just a realist! I think you’d better open your eyes before your wallet is emptied.
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
I can’t believe how many people think the ‘cans are our biggest problem
you will all be lucky to have any type of bill of rights or citizenship but you are complaining about mexicans?
its pathetic
Watcher Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
Cuda:
Grow up, become tolerant, stop hating yourself, learn how to spell, get a job, and at some point become human.
lyncher Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
to this site come a bunch of pussies, (lots of ‘em) they just complaint against the government, but don’t do anything.
Johnnie Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Right, looks like you fit the bill because,YOU are on this site too!
lyncher Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
wrong, pussy, I have asked several times that something needs to be done against the government, but nobody says anything…..
by the way I live in Autin Texas.
are you willing to do something about it, or you will keep being a pussy?
Johnnie Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
There is no such place as Autin, TX. jerk. Did you get out of the 3rd grade? By the way, could do something about it easy enough but you aren’t worth my time. Another thing-it’s ‘will you’ not ‘you will’ with a question mark! Geez!!! Why would you ask that something be done about the govt. instead off getting up and doing something yourself? I think we know who the puss is.
jerseygirl Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
You live in Austin and you can’t even spell it?
lyncher Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Answer to your….questions?
yes! fortunely I passed 3rd. grade, and your time is “worth” bitching about the government?? , you say….”instead “OFF”? I ask you now…how many years did you flunk at school? (I don’t need to do anything else I’m happy the way I’am
ok, I’m the puss….jogg….
jerseygirl
ha ha ! you are gonna critisize my spelling,…. that’s the least of MY worries!
you should ask the same question to “johnnie”
November 6th, 2009 at 9:50 am
AFAIK Guns of the 9mm kind usually hold arround 15 rounds per clip
jeremiahIII Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Some 18.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:50 am
I’m going to agree with the sleeper cell theory. Read the new book Muslim Mafia and it will be a big eye opener and fill in some holes left by the 9/11 truther movement. There is a reason C.A.I.R.E. is running scared and trying everything they can do to get it pulled.
Crito Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
You’re a racist and a paranoid schizophrenic.
D Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Crito, you deny reality
Zionist Mafia Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
hahaha… SUCKERS!
The Goyim are so stupid.
jerseygirl Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Watch the DVD, “The Third Jihad”.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:51 am
THIS IS A NON STORY, SOMETIMES IT’S NOT A CONSPIRACY
BUT IT SELLS DON’T IT?
matt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:42 am
no you’re just a jackass. How is a mass shooting on a military base in the US by a domestic haji a non-story?? this is probably one of the bigger stories since 911. One of the first “domestic terrorist” false-flags
Arnold Ziffel Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
No, this incident just enforces the paranoid delusion to police and military that EVERYBODY is a potential terrorist so when Martial Law is declared, the military will have no problem kicking in doors, confiscating weapons or pulling the trigger…..just like in Iraq.
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
don’t bother trying to explain logic to someone saying “haji” they have too much invested in the illegal wars and lies (i.e a baby killer veteran)
November 6th, 2009 at 9:52 am
“Exercises”= “Drills” = false flag excuse# 1
November 6th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Again? these bastards are really gonna try this bullshit again…come on…WTF!!!!!
November 6th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Im just waiting… to hear the bullshit quote from CNN “this just in ….Hassan appears to have been a fan of the Austin Texas radio talk show host Alex Jones”….two days later…”President Obama Finds it imperative that the internet be shut down”…two days later “riots in countless American cities…President Obama Calls for Martial Law”
markus Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:16 am
That crossed my mind, too. I hope you’re wrong.
CHAOTICDADDY Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Ten years ago those would be big jumps. Now? Very plausable.
seriously? Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
First the guns will go, if anything, from this “incident”. R.I.P.
OhCrapNotAgain Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
plus we have a new shooter in Orlando. two dead and eight wounded. couple of more big brother. the civvies will beg to be disarmed!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Only if it was a bilderburg meeting he ran in on…….
matt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:42 am
yeeeeeaaa
November 6th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Or the man could have just had a psychotic break
Kat Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:19 am
ITA. People need to realizer that psychiatrist does NOT equal healthy.
seriously? Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Agreed. People who are drawn to psychiatry are usually pretty fucked up in their own heads to begin with. Hence the attraction to such a bizzaro occupation.
matt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:45 am
yeah cause ive heard of those cases of PSYCHOSIS in which American Citizens in the military snap into a jihader militant in seconds… ur a f&*(kin idiot
Kat Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Who said he snapped in seconds?
November 6th, 2009 at 10:05 am
when the first time the news was airing, they said he had two more people shooting with him, every since
that story died down. I did not think about him as Muslim extremist, for he was in the military, any muslim
who truly follows Islam will never be part of a military, western or otherwise.
One thing come to mind, his Virginia Tech connection, there is something weird about that school,
I think tihs was the third such person who attended that school who went nuts and mass shoot people.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Of course this guy was jovial yesterday morning. He was prepared to be a martyr and meet his maker along with 72 virgins. Now he is gonna have to wait awhile before he hangs. Not every event is a conspiracy.
Matins Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:25 am
So, his joviality is perfectly normal in your eyes, since he was planning to commit mass murder and suicide?
Are you retarded?
Kat Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:21 am
So tell us, how do YOU act when you are about to commit mass murder? You seem to know it all.
Psychiatrists have mental breaks. People with mental breaks can be perfectly happy and normal one minute and psychotic the next. My cousin’s wife is proof positive of that!
Since you know all, where did you get you degree in human behavior?
OhCrapNotAgain Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Kat, I can see you are upset with this topic, and are relating it back to your cousin’s wife. Fact is, regardless of his mental state, what is being claimed, that he used to handguns, and fired that many shots, with two 9mm handguns, is impossible. There had to be extra shooters involved. It takes two hands to operate an auto handgun. Really! There is a whole lot more than just pointing and pulling the trigger. You will have to reload for one. While a right handed person can use their thumb on the magazine release, he will need his left hand to put in the magazine. Then of course he could also use his right thumb to release the slide, but that left hand isn’t available to change that magazine. It is wrapped around another handgun. Not possible even for the best shooters. One gun. Many magazines in quick access mag holsters, yes. Maybe. But not two handguns. We have 43 people hit, with EMT’s saying many hit with multiple shots. It is a physical impossibility for this to happen by one shooter with two guns. Focus on the facts of the event and not your cuz’s crazy wife.
OhCrapNotAgain Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Also Kat, I agree with your assessment of many in the Psychiatric field. Many of them are nuttier than a squirrel farm, but that doesn’t make them proficient with firearms. If someone of his education level, and someone that has gone thru basic training REALLY wanted to shoot up a bunch of guys on a military base, he would have been better off walking in with a personally owned AR-15 rifle. You can buy those in Texas, and it would have been indistinguishable from a military M-16. A few 30 round mags and he could have created quite a bit of chaos. Also, the area that was shot up, it would not have been unusual to see someone walk in with an M-16. No, this poor guy was set up pretty damn well.
ROBIN_HOOD Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
F.O. TROLL…..
Peter, Twickenham, UK Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 5:24 am
I think you guys are missing something.
The day before Hassan went off his head, an Afghan police officer shot dead five British troops and wounded many more in a similar incident. I think that incident triggered this.
I think we should start seeing this for what it is. There appears to be a form of mental illness among some muslims which compels them to slaughter innocents.
A religion, which at its extreme, urges muslims to seek revenge for perceived wrongs against fellow muslims, combined with an unbalanced mind is a deadly mix.
If you took the muslim aspect of this out, and looked at other “non religious” mass murders, they often claim to have voices in their head telling them what to do. When the human mind goes badly wrong, it does not need any programming by the CIA.
The problem with Islam is that there does not seem to be any democratic tradition in its culture.
In the West, if we are against a war we can demonstrate, lobby our elected representatives, even
ask our religious leaders to join the cause. That is our tradition.
In Islam, there is the Quaran and the follower, with nothing in-between.
Sure, this guy was brought up in the USA. But if he allowed his head to get into the extreme ranges of his religion, then this would more than likely subvert his belief in his democratic entitlement.
Remember those good CHristian folk who blew up the abortion clinics and killed people in the process?
WHich branch of the CIA tampered with their minds? Or had they lost the plot?
matt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:46 am
this guy believes things he heard on fox news LOL
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
That IS funny, or sad
millions more idiots like them
Phe Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Again, he was prepared to meet god and at peace with everything, these people aren’t stable.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Conspiracy theory or not…the reality is something smells bad about this one. If the guy was such an issue why was he allowed to continue working on such a large base without question. His behavior leading up to the event is not typical of one about to go on a killing spree…which leads me to believe there is some mind control at work. We know it exists in many different forms and our government has admitted as much as well as declassify documents stating the fact.
Mind control…hmmmm…could be…False Flag most definitely!! For multiple reasons…most of which is for the control of the people and the furthering of the agenda by the international banking whores.
Be strong people and be prepared…much love.
Kat Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Easy – innocent until PROVEN guilty.
I know proof is a rarity here in Alex Jones land….
matt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:47 am
naaaah not mind control.. YOU PEOPLE ARE SUCH SHEEP ALREADY FORGETTING WHAT THE ARTICLE SAID ABOUT CONFLICTING STORIES!! It is OBVIOUS that he could not have been the only one.. Not to mention there were TWO SEPERATE shootings reported yesterday.. and reports have been anywhere from 1-3 shooters. Something is not right about this story.
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
yeah like they conveniently didn’t list any other names? like that?
November 6th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Patsy- NO, Sleeper Cell- NO. Diversion for whats happening in the Ukraine, maybe. Lets not forget we will never know the whole story. This guy was trained and who is the best at training silent warriors?
Natalie Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:23 am
completely a diversion. I had to watch BBC to find out what was happening in the rest of the world.
Hangtime55 Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:53 am
I wouldn’t watch too much of any one News channels .
If you remember Natalie , BBC was the news outlet that reported that World Trade Center Building 7 collasped ( demo’ed ) 22 minutes BEFORE it actually did .
Read Everything , Listen to Everybody ,
Don’t Trust Anything Unless You Can Prove It
With Your Own Research
seriously? Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
True to that.
Colleen Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:43 am
I believe yu are correct, a DIVERSION….. here is where they push the healhcare bill thru, Sat 11/7
November 6th, 2009 at 10:09 am
First caller this morning on a radio show said “terrorist” at least five times, and mentioned war at least three times, in a thirty-five second rant. Now tell me this propaganda doesn’t work on sheeple. Generally speaking, no one looks any farther than the surface of things, they are afraid what they may find out.
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
they love to feel the hate that master allows them to
November 6th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Most people want to believe the lies . This incident wether spawed by the devils or a result of a sick solitary mind, WILL be used by the devils to fit their agenda.
We will never know the truth, they kill off anyone who might talk
Remember the six airmen from Maynot AB (sp?)
MontgomeryScott Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Oh, BIRGIT, I remember this…
Six ’suicides’ after the BOMB was loaded on to transport planes, flown over from Minot, N.D., to MacDil, FL., and possibly headed ‘over there’…and the news got ‘leaked out’…
If you are the SAME Birgit, I have seen several of your videos…don’t agree 100%, but still, very well executed!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:17 am
paul is really jumping the gun here , too early to tell .. it does look very odd but i think time will tell what happend here , to people to jump to conclusions is insane ,, especially for infowars .com ,
November 6th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Blah blah blah. Every muslim is a saint according to this site. It isn’t just possible that some muslims could feel animosity toward the Western world. Right…
Every time there is something big on the news it is AUTOMATICALLY a conspiracy according to this site. Pathetic.
look-up Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Perhaps you didn’t read the f-ing article then?
Paul clearly stated that it could be something else, and time would tell, but that based on patterns that have emerged with past events, it definitely looks like a false flag.
that’s all he’s said.
You are the one finding a conclusion in his statements.
matt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:51 am
wtf are you talking about how did it say anything about him being a “saint”. and i still have one question. HOW THE HELL IS IT AT ALL POSSIBLE FOR A GUY WITH A PISTOL TO KILL THAT MANY HEAVILY ARMED SOLDIERS ON A MILITARY BASE?? Shouldn’t he have been taken out within seconds of trying anything? Especially wearing all that jihader outfit?? I CALL BS
ehans Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
he was in uniform at the time of the shooting.
Debbie Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
People on Military bases (soldiers) are not all armed…in fact the bases have stations where police (military police) are allowed to be armed. As another poster said earlier; the only time the soldiers get to have a gun is when they are at war….it is not surprising that on a large base like that they are not expecting a shootout on a facility that has guard gates by one of their own. Had everyone been armed likewise the ass wouldn’t have accomplished what he had; or “the others” helping him.
Hangtime55 Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Of course muslims feel animosity toward the Western world. They want us out of Iraq and Afhganistan and maybe Iran in the future .
At a time when it is in question on whether or not were going to send tens of thousands of troops to these countries , this could be used as a Justifacation for that .
seriously? Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
The truth will not be revealed for at least fifty years or so. Declassification has a guideline, you know?
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
and blah blah blah everyone is a muslim terrorist, conspiracies aren’t real blah blah blah
November 6th, 2009 at 10:18 am
The REAL-STORY here, is the RIGHTEOUS girl, that capped the punk with her sidearm.
(bet she never thought she’d get a purple-heart, stateside)
SPIRITBLADE Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:20 am
and family, WE ARE THE ‘SLEEPER-CELLS’.
(i got a DD214 to prove-it)
matt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:51 am
wtf are you talking about
Hangtime55 Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
She capped 4 times and didn’t ‘ do him ‘ ? Bad shot .
Hasan was reported to be dead moments after the shootings , but now he’s ALIVE ?
Watch , he’ll confess on his ‘ Death Bed ‘ because thats the way its going to turn out .
Remember JFK and Oswald ?
Oswald was blamed for shooting JFK , but before his day in court TO REVEAL TO THE WORLD WHAT HE KNEW , Oswald was capped by Ruby ???
Neat and Tidy .
OhCrapNotAgain Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Unfortunately, she wont get a purple heart. He was American Military. She’ll probably end up on disability, probably some other kind of medal, but not a purple heart. The wound must come as a result of action from enemy fire.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:23 am
People have asked how a man could inflict these types of casualty numbers in this type of situation. If you have ever been inside of a SRP Center on a base such as Ft. Hood, you would understand how. As to the conclusions reached in the above article? Please, chillren, do not suspend critical thinking. We’ll see how this develops over the next several days. The writer of this article had at least one thing correct:
“everything we know about yesterday’s events suggests that there is infinitely more to the story of Nidal Malik Hasan than meets the eye.”
Hangtime55 Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Agreed , what if , and I say what if he wanted to be a whisle blower ? How could he be listen to ? Sure he killed 13 people , and it was said that the area that this incident happened was at a ‘ military prosessing center ‘.
CNN reported the location at Fort Hood yesterday as being the area where the incident occured , but later when the local news got to the location , CNN stated that the location in which the news was reporting from wasn’t no where near the military prosessing center ?
The public believes at the first moments that the shootings occured at the military processing center , but CNN later said it wasn’t , so where did this shooting really happen ? As far as the public is concerned , they have it planted in their minds that the shootongs occured at a military processing center .
I may be crazy and looking to Spin something but these are a few interesting questions .
November 6th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Our military understands they have been deceived.
Whistle-blowers and leaks will not be blacklisted.
Loud chicken-hawks hide behind the troops.
News blackout while lies are fabricated.
Wall Street & not-Federal no-Reserve.
Israel-first dual-national AIPAC.
Mossad media megaphone.
Official 9/11 propaganda.
Anthrax intimidation.
Stealth cia neocons.
USN twice
November 6th, 2009 at 10:26 am
i got some….ocean front propertyyyy in arriiizzzonnnaaa, from my front porch you can seeee the sea.
The Way Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Sold! I will pay you $100,000 of your own money for it.
MontgomeryScott Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Let’s see.
With INTEREST, that’s a cool $322,000.00, amortized over 30 years…based on a rate of 7% PI…
YES WE CAN (spend our own money to bail out the banks!).
November 6th, 2009 at 10:30 am
As I have heard it, he was looking to get out of the army, but was denied. Maybe he saw this as his only way out? He might have thought that he was to be killed fast if he started shoothing. He was also bullied by fellow soldies for being a muslim. Even if he was a moderate muslim, the thought of going to Iraq to maybe kill other muslims was the one drop to make him tilt.
It’s a known fact that sucidal people are relaxed and joyful, when they have decided to end it all. There’s not allways a conspiracy behind tragic incidents.
Hangtime55 Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Doesn’t make sense , so he will get out of the army and go to a federal Prison for Life instead of being discharged in a few years ( I would assume ) .
Also , he Is a Major , he must of been in the service for a very long time .
mercyflush Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 5:43 am
I heard they start doctors off at captain. All doctors are officers.
seriously? Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
It’s called AWOL jackass! If he wanted out’ then he would’ve just left. Think about it!
steelman Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
You’re probably right, if he wanted to leave, he just had to get his ass in his car and drive away. Reading more about this makes the whole thing stink. I also heard about other shooters in the first news, but they suddenly dissapeared..from the news
OhCrapNotAgain Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
That’s all BS. Any officer that chooses to get out of the military is able to at any time of their choosing. All they have to do is resign their commission and they are out. Also, as a psychiatrist, he would not be required to kill fellow muslims. In fact he will be in the rear with the gear. He would never see a fire fight, unless his rear area base was attacked. But then he’d be in a shelter somewhere. Not out on the line.
steelman Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Again, you are probably right. Don’t know how the army system works over there, but the more I read the more this story stinks. How he could take out and injure so many people with just a handgun, and the early reports that there was more gunmen..and the sudden stop of mentioning that in the later reports..hm…
November 6th, 2009 at 10:30 am
This guy was a U.S. Army Officer, and, as you can see from the photos, he dressed in traditional Muslim clothing. All officers have thorough background investigations, and after 9-11 does anyone really think that a middle eastern guy with an arabic name who walked around the base in middle eastern clothing wouldn’t have been investigated and probably monitored by military intelligence? He may be guilty of this crime, but the idea that he is part of a ’sleeper cell’ is absurd.
Q Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:48 am
veteran are we?
Kat Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:25 am
I guess you haven’t been on a lot of posts, have you? WHo do you think does intel and linguist work in the middle east?
Q Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
on my ass straight up tailgater
November 6th, 2009 at 10:31 am
To learn more about mind controlled assassins read Col. Donn de Grand Pre’s books at http://www.degrandprebooks.com.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Islam is a religion of peace….I don’t think so. You will see more types of these attacks as sleeper cells are activated. Look for shopping malls to be targets as the busy holiday shopping season kicks off.
AbuBakerSmith Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:54 am
And Alex’s web sites will be propogating all their propaganda releases blaming it on you
Kat Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Islam IS peaceful. Religiouis extremists are not.
Look at the Christian religious extremists – bombed the Olympics, execute docs and workers at women’s clinics, kidnapped children, Crusades, etc.
Cat eater Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Kat, after reading your posts thus far…you are a complete MORON!!!!
‘nough said, you are dismissed!
AbuBakerSmith Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
agreed kat is ignorant and brainwashed, a virulent combo indeed
Jesse Toler Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Islam is peaceful!? The men you all call radicals are the real Muslims. Islam isn’t peacefull at all. I for one am getting tired of hearing the same drivel every time another Muhammadan kills people.
Patrick Henry Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
C’mon folks, easy to see that Kat is Muslim. You won’t win an arguement with one who thinks what happened is OK, and believes that All Muslims Are Peaceful. Yeah, just like Mohammed was peaceful right?
Dont Tread Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:31 am
This site and others have been blathering on about mall attacks for 8 years now. Sick of hearing about it.
seriously? Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Middle Eastern Israelis look like Middle Eastern Muslims. Islam and Christianity have much in common. Look it up for yourself. And non-violence is the only solution. “Those who live by the sword, die by the sword”.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:41 am
He didnt want to get sent to Afghanistan and decided to go fucking mental, whats there to understand?
Kinda laughable “evidence” presented in this article to turn this into some kind off conspiracy, sleeper cell, lol, retards.
Rosco Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:43 am
oh yeah as for the fact he is muslim, if he was white and went to church every sunday would he be a warrior for christofundamental fascism?, nope, wouldnt even be an issue. No reason his religion should be an issue now either btw. Please just accepted he went fucking mental.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:45 am
These are the kind of articles that make Alex Jones and Infowars less and less credible. AJ may attract new ppl to his views, then turn ppl away after reading garbage like this. NOT EVERYTHING IS A CONSPIRACY ALEX JONES!!! unreal. Patsy? WTF are you talking about? Are you metally retarded perhaps? comparing him to the 07/07 bombers? What do you think happened, this guy thought he was shooting air bullets? or he was being controlled by the voices in his head transmitted through a chip implanted in his head? or it wasn’t him at all? PLEASE AUTHOR? WTF ARE U THINKING? Obviously this guy did what he did, it wasn’t a set up, it wasn’t mind control.
“from all the evidence that has emerged thus far, and in comparing it with other terror scams in the past where patsies have been deliberately groomed and set up to be the fall guys for false flag attacks, everything we know about yesterday’s events suggests that there is infinitely more to the story of Nidal Malik Hasan than meets the eye.”
WHAT EVIDENCE? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? ARE YOU HIGH? ITS CLEAR THAT THIS MAN COMMITTED THESE ACTS. THERE IS NO TEXTBOOK ANSWER AS HOW ONE IS SUPPOSED TO ACT LEADING UP TO AN ACT LIKE THIS.
Please AJ, focus on tangible shit, not this kind of garbage journalism.
BDTR Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:56 am
It’s a conspiracy all right, but it’s not the bankers, or the Neocons, or the NWO. This conspiracy is hundreds of years old – this is the same as the Ottoman Empire of ancient history, now using different tactics.
matt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:56 am
no but you forgot the so-called “NWO” is just the Roman Empire.. and Babylon.. WAYY older than the Ottoman Empire.. As crazy as it sounds I’m actually pretty 100% sure this all goes back to Atlantis Mu and Lemuria
Cat eater Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Tom,
Here, here.
It would have been better written as the authors opinion, rather than laid out as fact. AS you
You are so right Tom, after two weeks of AJ I saw the real AJ.
Peace to you Tom. Thanks for you post, nice to see people here that think for themselves.
Hangtime55 Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
I agree that AJ does go over the edge at times but still , that doesn’t discredit him for everything .
seriously? Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
The article was to make you think for yourself. Obviously you missed that.
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
WHO are the other shooters jackass?
November 6th, 2009 at 10:47 am
its not the USA…but Bankers that have bought off our politicians and created these rogue agencies …DHS CIA FBI IRS SPLC ADL etc. they support and conduct these operations…not in AMERICA’S name but in the name of GLOBALISM…The NEW WORLD ORDER…Bullshit far removed from any notion of free humanity..support America…she needs your knowledge and spirit to fight these bastards
November 6th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Come on folks. This stinks to high heaven. ONE man with two handguns killing 13 people and wounding nearly 30. The shootings would have to be at close range for handguns to be used. With military personnel in close proximity and people being trained to disarm an enemy there is no way he acted alone or at all. Here they are trying to demonize another muslim so they can keep the public sentiment against the arabs, Palestineans, Iraq’s and etc. I am a follower of Jesus Christ and what is going on is not Christian. It is of the synagog of satan. Also, this is perfect timing for a diversion( Health Care Bill, Iran, Iraq and etc.). Anyway, These are just my thoughts.
matt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:57 am
THANK YOU! At least I know there is one other person on here with something between their ears!
matt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:58 am
even tho i disagree about the christian stuff. do you honestly believe that the mystery schools believe in dieties?? lol they invent dieties for sheeple to believe in.. not the other way around
November 6th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Hasan worked on Obama’s Homeland Security transition team. Why is Alex covering for Jihad Obama and not revealing this to you? Maybe rich daddies friend who owns GCN and Midas do not want you to know.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:07 am
exactly drego1955, there’s no way one individual does this with 2 9mm handguns, no matter what level of training they have. i agree that someone would have disarmed him if he acted alone, even in the civilian world. the whole story does stink very bad, but i’m sure most anti 2nd ammendment folks don’t even understand that this story is a fraud and impossible because most aren’t familiar with weaponry.(i may not know the truth, but i know when i’m being lied to)
November 6th, 2009 at 11:09 am
any day now it’ll come out that he was a listener of AJ or a Ron Paul supporter, although i pray these elite scum won’t go there.
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
no they r running with the al-ciada thing
November 6th, 2009 at 11:10 am
fox had some military shill on who immediately started to suggest it could be an “al qeada mole”,when he suggested it he said it like this – “I’m not saying this is an al qeada mole situation, but …. ” clearly putting the idea out in peoples minds .
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
yeah because f-tards will magically forget to hear “not”
November 6th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Man..it just never ends..your focus is directed one way and then, wham!
This guy is a stupid misguided a**hole, period. He killed innocent people and now the other dumb misguided psycho-morons, the Christian Zionists, will support the nuking of the Middle-East. Its the perfect image for them…the sinister smiling Arab-clothed man.
hi i'm paul craig roberts a cnp member like my friend pat robertson Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:46 am
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November 6th, 2009 at 11:18 am
As a Muslim, I gotta set the record straight here. There are over 1.5 billion muslims. There is no way even 1% are terrorists. I don’t know how this could be a set up, but I don’t think we know all the facts of this shooting. One fact is that Islam is a religion of peace although there are bad muslims or those who don’t practice their religion correctly or at all. I just started listening to aj and on most issues I think he’s pretty accurate. He gets respect as a white Christian from Texas because it would be too easy for him to be blinded by hate if he wanted to be. I have no idea what was going on with this guy. I think its insane to go off shooting people regardless of your reasons. Believe me, every Myslim in the country is probably saying “why did something like this have to happen again?” It only makes life harder for us. I don’t see how it could be a set up but it sure is convenient for the pro war agenda. I’d like to hear what this guy says. They’ll probably execute him.
OhCrapNotAgain Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Well No, I appreciate your honesty. In order to see how this could be a set up, you have to look at what he supposedly did. It is impossible to operate two auto handguns at the same time, and get off that many shots. It is virtually impossible. This comes from a very capable handgun shooter. What is being suggested cannot be done by one person. However, two people standing behind the patsy, each armed with a handgun, as long as they are well trained with handguns, could pull this off. Then simply drop their handguns, run out the door and get picked up by suits in gov’t crown vics.
Jesse Toler Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
The shooter who killed so many infidels followed the commands of the false prophet Muhammad.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:19 am
This was a PYSOP gone wrong and has connections to Virginia Tech.
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1296.htm
quaintvilliageamerica Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 12:48 am
Lyle –
If Hasan was involved in some of the things that site says, it would explain a lot.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:23 am
I don’t see any connection to a conspiracy here and I believe that the man simply went berserk. A large percentage of mental health professionals struggle with their own internal demons as they learn new coping skills to pass on to their patients. However I am open to what may unfold as more details are revealed….I have not seen any new articles about the Virginia Tech incident here that was supposedly a mind-controlled roboshooter…
November 6th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Alot of you people are so insane. You have no clue. To you, everything is a conpiracy. Morons. Not everything is an evil conspiracy. The guy snapped and went on a personal jihad, simple as that.
Bill Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Why do you think he snapped?
Eric S. Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
The shooter because
1.) He didn’t want to be deployed to Iraq (stress of being deployed, note he had to hear horror stories of the war on a daily basis.)
2.) His fellow soldiers were harassing him because of his race and religion
3.) He was most likely on serotonin reuptake inhibitors.
dada Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
yeah, just forget about the 3 other shooting suspects who were being held for questioning…
http://propagandapress.wordpre.....r-freedom/
no problem…
November 6th, 2009 at 11:27 am
MK-ultra ? Maybe, but it could be a (sleeper) or just a nut job! we will never know!
AN Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Sounds like MK-Ultra to me. People you should look into this program, which the gov’t admits to existing, and see how someone could go from buying cake to being a killer in a matter of hours.
Our gov’t is full of psychopaths, why do you continue to defend them so vehemently? Wake up to the tyranny and despotism! Bring the troops home so they can help us defend our country from the enemies within.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:27 am
James This nation has given you the ability to speek your mind in open forum,at least for now, the ability to own a gun and many other benafits that millions of slaves natives and many immagrants have died for no other nation on the face of the planet has done this for its population you need to move to another continant but you cant they will not accept open minded self educating honest persons, not that you are, because you are an U.S. citizen lacking millons of dollars you need to FUCK yourself
seriously? Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Learn how to spell MORON!!!!!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Anyone else find it odd that S.W.A.T. and local police were the ones to respond to this attack on a MILITARY BASE? I may be wrong but isn’t it the jurisdiction pf military police? All the talk of stories that dont add up aside (God knows there’s a mountain of em) I think this might just be a way to for those bastards to further merge the millitary and police. Think about it 12 people dead and some 31 wounded with only two 9mm handguns. The news reported many with multiple gunshot wounds, ON A MILITARY BASE, and from what I saw no military police, or soldiers respond, but in fact it was a local cop who took the guy down. I know on base soldiers arent allowed to be armed except during training exercises (go figure) but come on seriously they had to wait for swat, on an army base, I’m callin B.S. on this whole thing.
Debbie Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
I work on a military base…it’s not odd to have SWAT OR LOCAL police come…reason being is they have agreements with local munipalities for both fire and police. This is very common and they also assist the non-military outside of the base per these arrangements. As for the the amount of people dead and wounded my thoughts were that in the exchange of gunfire of trying to kill the suspect they also took out some others but would be loathe to admit they did this by accident.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Here’s the truth about the guy and why Obamahdi been so tight lipped.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?f.....eId=115230
November 6th, 2009 at 11:29 am
This may seem unbelievable to most people, but some go-vernment agony that I won’t name has been secretly funding the Islamic movement in the middle east for the past 30 years big time because Islamic idealogy fits into their agenda of creating order out of chaos. The best false flag operation is a real one. If you can turn your guinea pigs into manchurian candidates that do your bidding without realizing it, you have the perfect false flag operation because it is real. Then you can tell them that they are sinners and need to worship the NWO 7 times a day to be redeemed. Use your brains: Why would someone who is in the military be a victim of organized stalking with constant harassment?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:33 am
This may seem unbelievable to most people, but some go-vernment agony that I won’t name has been secretly funding the Islamic movement in the middle east for the past 30 years big time because Islamic idealogy fits into their agenda of creating order out of chaos. The best false flag operation is a real one. If you can turn your guinea pigs into manchurian candidates that do your bidding without realizing it, you have the perfect false flag operation because it is real. Then you can tell them that they are sinners and need to worship the NWO 7 times a day to be redeemed. Use your brains: Why would someone who is in the military be a victim of organized stalking with constant harassment?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Why is it so hard to believe that this man was a sleeper cell? Hasin was born in Virginia but trained in Syria. If you watch CNN, you will think he is a great guy. He received the call to “do his duty” and killed as many americans as he could. Keep in mind that four terrorist attacks have been thwarted in the past month. It is time to wake up – we are at war!
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
BWA HAHAHAHAHAH
at war like this?
http://patriotsquestion911.com
we attack ourselves to fire the first salvo of ww3 new crusades, yeah why don’t all you idiots go sign up and fight for the NWO so you won’t re-produce. K?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:34 am
ONE serious doubt on the CCTV couverage why the hell this guys is wearing a PAKISTANI DRESS WHILE HEs from a arbic middle eastren family they dont wear THIS DRESS THEY WEAR A TAUF although the two dresses are very similar but a differrence is that the shirt in PAKISTANI DRESS has cuts on the sides and MIDDLE EASTERN dresses are long and dont have cuts on the sides.and i have lived in middle east for a long time i know they will never wear this dress .
SERIOUS DOUBTS ON THE CCTV THIS IS FAKE
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
wouldn’t shock me. Put up a site and send it to everyone with the info
Debbie Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
They had already said when they were looking at his background that they thought it odd that he stated his origins from Pakistan when indeed he was not born there. It is possible to sympathize with different sects of the muslin world depending on what he related the most with. Not really strange regarding his choice of dress…as you will also see some middle east countries wearing jeans and western clothes….
November 6th, 2009 at 11:34 am
This may seem unbelievable to most people, but some go-vernment agony that I won’t name has been secretly funding the Islamic movement in the middle east for the past 30 years big time because Islamic idealogy fits into their agenda of creating order out of chaos. The best false flag operation is a real one. If you can turn your guin-ea pigs into manchu-rian candidates that do your bidding without realizing it, you have the perfect false flag operation because it is real. Then you can tell them that they are sinners and need to worship the NWO 7 times a day to be redeemed. Use your brains: Why would someone who is in the military be a victim of or-ganized stal-king with constant harassment?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Patsy my ass ! It’s BS stories like this that takes away AJ’s credibility! The man was a Muslim that wanted to be martyred. End of story !
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
BWHAHAHAHA
and hes still alive,right?
Spank Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Yeah, he’s still alive. He was so incompetent he couldn’t even pull off ‘martyrdom’ with 4 bullet holes in his body ! LOL.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:39 am
FFlagOp,
The answer is because he was a manchurian candidate. That is why they pushed him over the edge and when he committed the unholy act, they got their agents to make it look even better by killing more people. Did I give you the correct answer?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:40 am
MK ULTRA
November 6th, 2009 at 11:44 am
I’d like someone with his or her own mind to explain something to me. How come every major story or soap opera, or whatever you want to call it, one after the other, nonstop, is always produced in the United States? I mean we all recognize it’s one big Hollywood, but all I can remember since I was a child is stories and more stories, incredible stories, just like this one, always coming from no other then the United States of America. Unbelievable! Long and behold, wouldn’t you know it, the guy was a Muslim. How convenient given the world situation! Poor USA, always the victim once again.
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
because our media is the loudest and the “fakest” (most bought off)
Debbie Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
“Poor USA” wouldn’t be so poor if we quit giving handouts to all the other countries; wouldn’t it be nice if we could get it all back and not be so “poor” anymore?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:46 am
The guy went nuts, simple as that. no conspiracy here. Alex jones- please stop publishing this garbage journalism and focus on tangibles. its crap like this that puts you in the koo-koo category. geez
PVH Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
I will have to step up for Alex here. His journalism is first class. I will agree with you that the guy went nuts, but we don’t know everything yet. Speaking of focusing on tangibles please watch some of his films. I don’t know what would bring you to this site, tom, except to vent your frustration. If you want to be a happy sheep then visit the NY or LA Times. They will be glad to sing you a lullaby.
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
lullaby – nice
November 6th, 2009 at 11:48 am
I promise the g.o.a. will never get together with the other 2nd. Amend. groups and gather the millions of people in american into a single voice that calls for the repeal of all the illegal unconstitutional gun ‘laws’.
In fact the g.o.a., n.r.a., millionare patriot and united states conceal carry association will continue to support conceal carry PERMITS that grant PERMISSION in place of a right, thus helping to kill freedom.
Long live the secret organizations. Long live the NWO destruction of the Constitution and freedom.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:48 am
My first reaction was that this was just another Mossad operation.
I’ve still seen no evidence to the contrary.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:51 am
This is fishy like the Moscow theatre incident of Chechnya.
In the incident you had a happy teenage to 20 some year old girl,all of a sudden appear to be drugged and brainwashed terrorist,who had a brother who was sargeant in the Red Army,who seemed quite loyal.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:52 am
My big questions are:How do you kill 13 people,wound 31 on a military base and live?Are these soldiers that bad of a shot?Wouldnt they shoot to kill in this situation?This factor is all about stress and immediate response to end a quick threat.When did they take the time to decide to only wound him in this situation?I mean Shit!How is guy alive after something like this?Maybe he wasnt supposed to die.
Debbie Reply:
November 11th, 2009 at 12:03 am
Exactly why it isn’t a “conspiracy” or they would have just finished his ass off on the way to the hospital or before that…saved the need for a trial and all the other bullshit that drags things out way to long. To have 40 injured and less than 15 dead tells you that there are alot of witnesses left who can “validate” what took place and I doubt all would take a bullet to stage rage at muslims. The guy had mental problems or was “brainwashed” and that is all it takes to accomplish all he did. If there were multiple shooters I certainly all the injured at least a couple can remember who was shooting at them I would imagine?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:55 am
http://www.youtube.com/comment.....KYl2HTePYc
November 6th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Harris and Klebold are JEWS!, not “Protestants”. This clever little trick is used to hide the fact that this was JEWISH HATE, and these were JEWISH SUPREMISTS, followed by a JEWISH cover up. Michael Moore (krypto jew) with his non-sense to cover the fact that these kids were JEWISH, the trench coat mafia was JEWISH. They were targeting whites, especially Christians, out of JEWISH EXTREMIST and VENOMOUS JEWISH HATE. SEE JUDICIAL-INC.BIZ
The Shnozz Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
They killed CHRISTIANS and yes, Klebold was definitely a supremacist Jew. There is speculation that Harris was but I haven’t found solid evidence. In any event, they were NOT PROTESTANTS. I am disgusted by Paul Joseph Watson for try to use this clever manipulation on willing dupes. At least have the dignity to change that PJW or stand guilty as charged as a zionist shill.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:57 am
I’m Agnostic, so I can stay objective here. Whether you believe he did it or not; the Story changed 5 times in two days.
Give your head a shake. You cannot use and re-load two Handguns with a Gun in each hand.
It was already mentioned, “…detained 3 other Soldiers whose role was unclear.”
‘Nough said…
November 6th, 2009 at 11:59 am
What a dope. He’s no more a patsy than the 9/11 hijackers, who by accounts, acted as normally as anyone else in the days and hours prior to their horrible actions. He did this a a part of his jihad orders from mohammed(the pedophile).
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
over half of the 911 hijackers are still alive
the FBI doesn’t even have enough proof to charge Bin Laden with 911
yet you and every other moron like oyu buys up whatever the TV says
THESE are real patriots. They stand for TRUTH and FREEDOM not slavery and fascism like you military “faketriots”
http://patriotsquestion911.com
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
REAL Americans stand up to tyranny. They STAND UP to fake monarchs. THEY DON’T LISTEN TO BS THAT NEWSPAPERS SPEW. THEY DON’T GO FIGHT IN ILLEGAL WARS AND COME BACK HERE AND TELL US HOW THEY ARE HEROES. THEY DON’T SIT AROUND AND SPEND MORE TIME ACCUSING PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE THE RESEARCH THAN ACTUALLY READING OR THINKING FOR THEMSELVES.
Go ask your chain of command what you’re allowed do today slave, don’t leave without specific directions
November 6th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
acl,
The answer is because we Americans have already taken over the world, and everything name brand, including foreign go-vernments are owned by us. This is what makes renditioned torture so convenient. Our puppets do our dirty work for us, and the people that they oppress get the blame for it. If there is a just God out there, then the native Americans will get 100% of their stolen land back and the Support our troops Jesus fishes will get the Karmic consequence of their actions. I don’t think this will happen because there is no just God out there. Those Support our troop Jesus fishes will be rewarded, and the memory of Arabs will because ancient history just like the armed robbery of the land of native Americans by the Jesus fish.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Anyone wondering why it is that our soldiers couldn’t protect themselves from this guy. Or, maybe just maybe, it was he that stopped whoever it was that shot him. So many different stories within such a short period of time. Our own soldiers are unarmed. Policy? Damn! To those inside buildings that went into lock down. A thought occurred to me that if your unarmed, it is possible to use the fire hose (precaution) to wet the floor down and even with enough pressure, hit the gunmen with it. Hoping for enough pressure and of course water. To criticize without warrant of knowing the true situation. The conspiracy now is, will they survive to tell their story through this investigation. Or will we have another cover up (TARP), to take our minds away from Wall St., from mandates (tyranny), pushing the snake oil agendas. The 9/11 investigation called scoop and dump. You come to conclusions before knowing the facts. If they come out. Stop smelling the coffee and start tasting the water people. Things are getting serious. The Constitution of the United States is being compromised. A new world order!? Fine, but let the other countries pass the muster to become a State, under the U.S. Constitution. Our Holy Grail, for it protects all men from each others evils. Like the Never Ending Story, there’s still a piece of it left, and hopefully, it’s enough from protecting us from the tyranny, the dictatorial edicts of there (Corporate) new world order that’s banging at the door. Guardians of the Constitution, where art thou?
November 6th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Tells me CIA uses a manchrian candidate effect to show how a side by side view of contradictory life of a suacide
November 6th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
eysofastrnjr -
If you’re going to frame somebody, wouldn’t you want that individual dead rather than alive? No conspiracy here, you can take the tinfoil hat off on this one numnuts
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
hey remember the fruits of wisdom you regurgitated here. Frame it on the wall so your descendants can see how smart you really are.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
something stinks about original story …9mm pistals 30 wounded and 13 dead?
November 6th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Only some are muslim extremists, most muslims are not extremists and are not therefore at war with Christianity and the West. Those that are, well, go figure that their mad about the west carving up their landscape, killing their people and whats even worse, is the creation of a stereotype of the spooky arab that barely even exists in reality except in Hollywood and America.
Secondly, a man seemingly happy and smiling just before committing an attrocity as this is a classic signature of mind control and/or a true sociopath with no conscience, the latter don’t usually show much in form of positive emotions like smiling and laughing. That brings us full circle to possible mind control. Which, by the way has been perfected for some time thanks to “paperclip” and bringing over Mengele years ago. It’s is not hard to cleave a young personality into many parts with trauma and torture.
Conclusion: Patsy, there’s a good chance… mind control victim also a very good chance. The possiblity of being both also a very good chance. The possibility of being neither… not likely.
Jesse Toler Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
These lame attempts to separate this jihadist from Islam are weak and brutally easy to knock down. Muhammad told his disciples that ‘war is deceit’. Since America is not within the ‘house of islam’ all Americans are fair game for killing and enslavement. This Jordanian Muhamamdan was just following the orders of the false prophet Muhammad.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
The shooter is a physiatrist and phycologist and dealth with returning soldiers from Iraq and Afganistan. He is also a Muslim. His cousin and brother said that the returning soldiers would tell him horror stories from the war; rapes, mass murder, torture, etc. etc. Every day he had to listen to these horrible stories.
He was about to be deployed to Iraq himself, and he expressed doubts about the war and whether we should even be there. He didn’t want to participate in senselessly killing/torturing/raping fellow Muslims. He tried to tell his superiors that he didn’t want to deploy to Iraq, but they din’t listen. We also know that his fellow soldiers would harrass him savagely based on his religion and race. They would call him raghead according to his cousin.
And let’s not forget that he probably subscribed himself serotonin reuptake inhibitors as a physiatrist. All the mass shooters in recent history were on serotonin reuptake inhibitors (so watch for that). The shooter probably had a mental breakdown do to the stress of being deployed, the harrassment, and the serotonin reuptake inhibitors.
Eric S. Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
I can’t spell worth #$%^. Meant to type physiatrist* and psychologist*
MontgomeryScott Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
YUP.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Right on Carlmillerjr. Harris and were part of the synagog of satan and not protestants.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
I don’t for one moment believe in the ‘ Sleeper Cell ‘ theory . Come on people , this Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan is walking around in Arab garb , his name promotes to those with a vauge intelligence that he isn’t just Muslim , but a radical or a extremist individual as well . Do you think for one moment that a ‘ sleeper ‘ under these 2 conditions alone could go un-noticed ?
And to put the Icing on the cake, it was reported by a interview of one of the Major Mainstream News Outlets that a brother of a woman at the scene stated that Hasan yelled ” “Allahu Akbar” ( “God is Great” ) in Arabic before he opened fire . Now if that isn’t a Crock of Poop , I don’t know what is .
The many Mainstream News Agencies like MSNBC and CNN were actually saying without saying it that Hasan with his ethnic name could be a Terrorist by virtue of his name alone ? Come on people , he’s said to be a Jordanian so I’m pretty sure his name wouldn’t be John Smith .
No , there is something to this event that WILL have grave repercussions in the future .
November 6th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
For once I disagree with the so called patsy plot. He definitely pulled the trigger, and he definitely murdered 12 soldiers. I understand bad news sells guys, but you can leave the false flag out of this for at least a period of mourning for the parents, wives, daughters, and son who lost family from that attack. Pray for the families for peace. This could have been anyone you’ve known. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.
fredster Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Not possible.
over 40 people shot? Two hand guns? On a military base?
BS.
Jesse Toler Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Why is it BS? Believe it or not, military bases are only very lightly armed and only at specific points. You make it sound like Ft Hood was as well prepared as Camp Victory or some other post in Iraq/Afghanistan.
The shooter was a Muslim following the orders of the prophet Muhamamd.
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
yeah this guy knows exactly what happened, right?
Yet he forgets the other 2 shooters.
In other words man, you have zilch cred and zilch knowledge, don’t expect there to be a long line or disciples
November 6th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Well, I know quite a bit about the Muslim mindset, and I really don’t know what to make of this attack yet. Could it be a real jihad attack? Yes, despite the smiling while getting his coffee. However, I have learned over the last few years that using Muslims as “fall guys” to move the globalist agenda is a fact (9-11 for instance) so is it possible this is some sort of homegrown sleeper triggered by a code word, etc? Yes. Let’s not jump to any conclusions here. The Mass Media wants us to. Screw the Mass Media. Jackals.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Right on Carlmillerjr. Harris and Klebold were from the synagog of satan and not protestant. They were especially NOT followers of Jesus Christ who came with the message of peace and love. This was not what the synagog of satan was looking for and they do not desire this today either.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
There is no way this one guy could kill 12 people and wound 30 more by himself with only a pistol. He was a doctor, not a combat soldier. He would not have been that proficient with a handgun. Also, handguns are not the most lethal firearms. Most people can survive a handgun attack. How many magazines did this guy have with him? I will bet anything that ballistics exams of the bullets will show that the bullets came from at least three different guns. The Army captured three other men related to the incident. Why? One is still being held. Why was the FBI brought in? Cover up, that’s why. This guy was set up. I would take a close look at the people that were killed. This could be a cover for an assassination.
Just look at the photos of this guy. Where is his gun? AJ is off the mark by focusing on the shooter so much. There is no way a guy like this could inflict this much damage with a handgun.
Slavin Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Pipe, you are right on. It does not add up. My guess is that this man never had a gun in his hands yesterday but was actually himself the target. I don’t see that AJ is really focusing so much on the shooter though–other than to show that Hasan probably wasn’t the shooter.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
I haven’t caught up on the latest but one thing stood out to me, maybe it’s nothing.. but he went to Virginia Tech, right? That’s where the last shooting spree happened a few years ago. Any connection?? Maybe, maybe not.
My gut tells me this isn’t what it is being presented.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Some of you really crack me up. “How could this guy go in and shoot so many people with just two handguns around all these heavily armed military people”?
Anyone who has ever been in the military would know that the only people carrying arms are the military police/guards. I spent 20 yrs in the military the only way you get access to a weapon is you have to physically show up at the armory and then sign your life away and then you get your weapon issued then you have to proceed to a clearing barrel and go through the clearing process and then you can walk away with your weapon. Those troops were in a “administrative bldg” there is no way anyone would be armed but I will bet after this incident things will change.
In my opinion this was a guy who said rather than go to the sand box I will take out as many as I can and then go get my 72 virgins. I do also think there is a good possibility he was part of a sleeper cell and did not act alone that was too much gun fire for just one person and witnesses said they hear semi-auto rifle fire . I would think that military can tell the difference from hand gun and rifle fire.
AbuBakerSmith Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
He brought the pistols in from his apartment, they weren’t from the Armory. Obama’s transition team advisor turned shooter worked in the MEDICAL building you call administrative, he stood up from behind the counter, shouted Allah Akbar and started shooting.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Sounds like BS psy-ops to me. That said, I can’t find any sympathy for the “victims” since this same thing is done in Iraq and AfPak everyday by our glorious military. But of course that doesn’t make the MSM.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
How can you not have sympathy for the victims? It isn’t as if our military aren’t unwitting victims of the establishment and the Elites themselves. Most of them are grunts trying to eek out a living for themselves and their families.
Let’s not get confused about who is the real enemy here.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Mass murders conducted by the US government
Columbine = MK Ultra
Virgina Tech = MK Ultra
Ft Hood = MK Ultra
The media is complicit. Gather your evidence, we will put these criminals on trial just like Saddam Hussein.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
“However, from all the evidence that has emerged thus far, and in comparing it with other terror scams in the past where patsies have been deliberately groomed and set up to be the fall guys for false flag attacks, everything we know about yesterday’s events suggests that there is infinitely more to the story of Nidal Malik Hasan than meets the eye.”
That’s just it–’we’ know next to nothing about yesterday’s events, and what led up to it,
so how can you speculate with such authority and presume Hasan is a ‘patsy?’ Your posit that every ‘Islamic terrorist’ is a US gov’t operative is incredulous. Have you ever traveled to the Middle East? Have you ever visited a Madrassa? Islamic children are taught to hate the West from birth. It’s not a stretch to believe that members of the Muslim faith want to do the West harm–and will act on it.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
sounds like this malik guy got set up to take the fall for the military summarily executing a bunch of people on the base.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Could this be the reason behind this ?
http://www.worldreports.org/
November 6th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
I was listening to Hannity yesterday afternoon. He was talking with Rep. Michelle Bachman and they were discussing the 20,000 or so protestors at the Capitol. After being talked about on Hannity’s show last Friday, Jon Voight, Cliff from Cheers and the guy who wrote Liberty and Tyranny showed up as well as thousands of Americans who chanted “Kill the Bill.” Pages of the bill were distributed and citizens roamed the halls of the Capitol looking for representatives who were asked to explain the meaning of the words on their pages. Everyone was invited to tune in to Hannity’s show to see what transpired during the day and it was touted as a “miracle.”
On the same broadcast, news from Ft. Hood broke. My immediate thought was that it was a diversion. It wasn’t good enough to kill one or two people. No, many more had to be involved because the broadcasts had to be inundated with the news story. Everyone remember when all we heard was how awful it was that Farrah Fawcett was dying until Michael Jackson did? Farrah who? Then, we hear that Obama is going to speak shortly. I did a doubletake. This guy has never responded shortly to anything except when that cop was trying to help his Chicago friend and he was trying to ascertain whether his home was being robbed. Otherwise, days, weeks. Then I heard that a moment of silence was observed on the Hill. Good thing they could concentrate on the new crisis and avoid meeting up with the citizens.
This really stinks to high heaven. I think everyone (including the shooter) at Ft. Hood were sacrificial lambs and it is just another example of how ruthless these people are.
missy Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Amberbelle-could be possible, anything is possible anymore. Looks like Obama’s Muslim pals are doing his bidding. It did take all of the focus off of this bill which is due to be voted on on Saturday. Pelosi said she would have the bill posted on the web 72 hours before the vote goes down, but again she failed to do this-lied again. These people are such criminals, we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg as usual. The American people need to take back this country, the country that so many have loved and defended since its birth. The country that now is being taken down from within by people who hate the freedom of religion that this country was founded upon. You don’t need to look any further than that for the reason behind their evil actions.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
This is not a copnspiracy, folks. The shooter probably had a mental breakdown do to the stress of being deployed, the harrassment, and the serotonin reuptake inhibitors.
missy Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Eric, why did he join the military? He sure was drafted, he made his choice. What do these people think the military is, a free ride of some sort? He knew what he was doing, he is a Muslim terrorist.
Revolution2012 Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Get your facts straight.
His family said he joined the military because he loves his country and he wanted to defend the constitution. He also felt he needed to after Sept. 11th. He was not drafted. He went in himself.
missy Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Rev 2012, that was a typo, I meant he was not drafted of course, there is no draft, yet that is.
jygg Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
oh ok, that settles it then
November 6th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Hasan was the typical Anti War proponent. He felt war is unjustified and killing is never justified. His beliefs were so strong he decided to stage a Jihadi BloodBath to prove his sincerity. A situation not unlike when Alex attacked 4′ tll Michelle Malkin following her around bumping people out of his way so he could scream and spit in her face.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Alex, get a grip. Let the facts emerge before you prejudge them. It’s too early even to assess probability yet and it’s getting to the point I only come here to see what overreaction or exaggeration will be found. Stick to the documents, facts and what can be corroborated.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
By the way, in the photos above the shooter is giving away Korans. Not sure what the motivations are for using the photos to try to prove some conspiracy theory in development unless PROFIT is the driving force/
November 6th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
I agree completely with the poster below. How do you walk into the largest US Military base with trained military personnel everywhere thinking you will kill 13 and wound over 30 with two handguns in a short period of time, show the weapons and explain.
Barry’s Crack Pipe Says:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
There is no way this one guy could kill 12 people and wound 30 more by himself with only a pistol. He was a doctor, not a combat soldier. He would not have been that proficient with a handgun. Also, handguns are not the most lethal firearms. Most people can survive a handgun attack. How many magazines did this guy have with him? I will bet anything that ballistics exams of the bullets will show that the bullets came from at least three different guns. The Army captured three other men related to the incident. Why? One is still being held. Why was the FBI brought in? Cover up, that’s why. This guy was set up. I would take a close look at the people that were killed. This could be a cover for an assassination.
Just look at the photos of this guy. Where is his gun? AJ is off the mark by focusing on the shooter so much. There is no way a guy like this could inflict this much damage with a handgun.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Yeah.. then I must be Psychic.. As soon as I seen this story on CNN, Before the name of the shooter was released, I guessed that somehow the US would label this as terrorism.. My exact words were “The person that did this will more likely be a muslim and somehow be linked to the middle east crisis”. Good job America.. Its pretty sad when the countries lies and propaganda are this predictable.. My guess is that this will somehow be linked to Iran.. Im sure CNN will prove me right in the next week or so..
November 6th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Don’t think mind control is possible? Check this video out
http://www.youtube.com/view_pl.....+the+heist
November 6th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
I’ve got to interject. Yes you can kill this many people with a pistol if you are well trained and they are in close proximity to you and each other. If you know anyone who trains to shoot sharply you can get them to demonstrate on wooden targets or when bird hunting. It would only take a few seconds to spray a crowd with one magazine and reload and dump another magazine. Again, you have to train VERY frequently to be able to do this on demand. Also, you need a good level of motivation/discipline and some emotional stability to ensure that you practice correctly.
So is there a larger story here that is being covered up, probably? The question is how well trained was the “patsy” and who backed him up.
Also:
I live near Virginia Tech and used to study Psychology there. It gets a bad rap from Cho shooting up the campus as you might expect. What nobody tells you is how boring/normal it is otherwise. Loads of drinkers and football fans and the occational murder or two every year. Nothing to write home about. Come by and visit the town of Blacksburg, Virginia (where VT is) if you want to see how calm it usually is.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
This is just too messy for the people that really sustain the world. Make the economy bloom again.
My proposal: employment for 5 to 10% of the adult population in each country of the world. In the USA it will be at the cost of 0.7 trillion per year, which is below the national debt (10 to 20 million jobs at $70000 to 35000 per year). The economy is lifted at the same time. Terrorism will slow down and jobs are created not for weaponery, enough of that.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Listen anyone thinking a Christian has ever killed anyone is full of it. You may hear people call themselves Christians. You may hear groups call themselves Christians. Anyone not forgiven by Jesus and God and does not conform to the teachings of the Bible are not Chrstians. So now that you all finally know that Christians dont kill, please dont say they do, they dont. The devil uses many to say one thing and do another. Anyone who beleives otherwise is false in his own life/religion. Catholic Church no where near a true bible christian so lets stop the religions been killing each other angle its so overrated on these chat sessions. Not many true religions teach killing one another. That being said whenever someone says This religion or that religion kills read there teachings. If killing is not in their teachings as ok then they are not of that religion. Common sense. Please use common sense.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Rothschild deus ex machina …??? http://www.folloder.com/pix/cl.....monkey.swf
November 6th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Harris and Klebold were protestants? WTF Paul Joseph Watson? That line is PURE PROPAGANDA. Nice try but at least try to be honest about that part.
“By way of deception shalt thou do war.” (The Mossad)
November 6th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
first thought i had when i heard the initial reports was that he was a psychiatrist with 2 or 3 of his patients who went nuts. he got their weapons and was mistaken for the shooter when first reponders arrived. remember first reports said 2-3 shooters. 2 released, one still in custody- and shoooter was reported to be dead in first press conference given by lt gen in charge.
story is too weird…
November 6th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
wow dude you are cool
the same people who run this country run yours no matter which hole it is
and wow cuss words on the radio , wow thats FREEDUMB
November 6th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
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November 6th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
I think there is something is in the air, another one went kookoo and killed many people in an office
building in Orlando! what is going on with these people?
BTW, this Nadel guy had a chaplain who was counseling him, that same Chaplain had another one
which was part of his flock murder his superior office in another fort. If I was the military I would take a closer look at this chaplain dude. I never trust anyone who calls himself a spiritual leader. bunch of phonies.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Everything about Alex Jones screams, ‘Islamic agent’, and everything about his brother-at-arms screams Islamic jihad. I am certain of it. Alex Jones’ work is an Islamic front operation for the Muslim Brotherhood.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Whatever you haters been smoking please keep it to yourself… We’ll know more when Hasan gets his day in court…
November 6th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
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November 6th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Hey That Paul Joseph Watson is really on the ball…..
Just when politicians are mumbling trying to justify the goins on in Afghanistan and Iraq this happens…. If he was acting on his own, why do it at such a crucial turning point and spoil it for the people you’re supposedly tyring to support.
This is obviously done for the American public’s eyes (and the British too… though they had their own ‘nutter gone beserk in the barraks’ just the day before… coincidence?) and to remind the public who their enemy is…. just incase they had forgotten.
Richard Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 1:05 am
The enemys of the republic, constitution, bill of rights and U.S. code that supports it. Are the attack voters who return war criminal incumbents to office 94% of the time to replace the republic and constitution with democratic fascism so that they can have the unnecessary war the constitution prohibits.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Come on. The Muslims invaded Europe in the 700s AD. They were finally stopped with gaining ONLY the Iberian peninsula in 732 by CHARLES MARTEL and the Franks (PBUH).
The Muslims conquered all of the Near East by the sword, insitutiting dhimmitude upon the Chrisitians who lived there and whose lands those were (Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, and, in North Africa, Egypt, were all Christian lands), by the end of the 600s. This was because the Persian empire and the Byzantine empire had been at war for may years and were too exhausted to protect themselve from the bloodthirsty Muhammedans screaming out of Arabia.
The Crusades were payback. Unchristian? Well, yes, but also revenge for the continued vicious assault against the Christian lands by the newly invented, bloodthirsty religion of Muhammad.
Go read a history book before brining up the Crusades again, you wankers. I am PROUD of my ancestors for fighting this Arabian evil back in the day. Too bad their descendants in Europe are rolling over and playing dead for the very same dress-wearing desert fairies today.
Richard Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 1:09 am
They were stopped at Vienna three times.
crazycanuck Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 1:39 am
‘bloodthirsty religion of Muhummad’ now if that is not an armchair historian’s bias I don’t know what is. Pure Islam would never condone such an act as this. There may be elements of militancy in Islam but this is not the religion’s raison d’etre. This is beginning to appear to be just another recycled 911 event (sic).
November 6th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
” The media had originally reported that witnesses had seen between 3 and 5 gunmen. Then that number went to 3, with Hasan being wounded and taken in to custody, and two other suspects allegedly being taken into custody and later released after being “cleared” and jumping into a Crown Victoria with US Government license plates on it (and men in suits inside). Now we are even being told that Hasan was yelling “Allahu Akbar” or (Allah is good) while he was gunning down victims. Hours ago witnesses remarked how methodical and stoic the accused gunman was”
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I Concur, this unfortunate man was being playing as a Patsy/Fall-Guy – All of the background
information on this Soldier fit’s WAY TO PERFECT so as to REALLY FRAME HIM UP GOOD As
a Radical Shooter ! The Pictures taken the morning of the shooting show a Cheerful man.
Plus his family all say that he even did not like to go to the Firing Range. Not Exactly The James
Bond Type of ” Gung Ho ” Weapons Handler & Sharp Shooter to be able to carry out such an
Extreme Number of Hit’s Producing Such A Large Body Count. All of the Facts Just Do Not Add Up
November 6th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
No thanks, I’ll pass on the scorpion’s toxic brew and snake oil as the side effects seem to be rather deadly.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
This is a huge false flag to move toward more gun grabbing bills, a pretext for martial law, to get people to accept the illegal wars. Watson doesnt even get into some of the obvious. Obviously he is a Manchurian candidate.
A psychiatrist does not lose it like this without someone pushing his buttons. I mean hello WATSON, he was a shrink. Shrinks do not shoot up the place.
Honestly I am so sick of the spoiled little new jack, woke up because of 9-11, rich Watson brothers. I am so glad other people are writing for this site. I am a journalist and I am sick to fucking death of it being a big rich, spoiled little boys club. You and your brother are sub par writers. I bet mommy and daddy have lots of money. More idiot rich boys writing about the other idiot rich boys.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
I had 20 and 30 round mags for my ruger 9mm. If the guy was as well practiced with pistols as they say, I could see on man doing all that was done. I was surprised he didn’t shoot more. It could have been far worse had he put his mind to it. Fortunately, he was not right upstairs or he would have planned something far more deadly.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Why is it so hard to believe that a guy just goes nuts? If you follow the crazies on these boards than EVERYTHING is a conspiracy..rediculous! Unless there is proof of some sort stop screaming conspiracy all the time, it looks and sounds rediculous!
Semfi Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
At 2:30 eastern, 1:30 local time, a mass shooting occurred at the Fort Hood army base, the largest American military installation in the world, covering some 15 square miles. Army Lieutenant Colonel Christopher Garver confirmed that the violence erupted at or near the Howze Theatre, next door to the Folgers Soldier Readiness Processing Center contained within a former sports dome at the base, located in Killeen, Texas, some 50 miles from Waco.
Initial reports indicated that seven personnel were dead and that 12 had been wounded. These reports also indicated that one gunman was in custody and that another was being sought. Later reports have confirmed that the total number of personnel who died is twelve, with 31 injured.
Later reports said that more than 30 personnel were injured, that the base was in ‘lockdown’ and that the assailant, named as Major Malik Nadal Hassan, a US Army mental health psychologist or psychiatrist, had been shot dead. Two other assailants were arrested and are in custody, according to a briefing by Army Lieutenant General Robert Cone, the post commander.
British press sources state that Major Hassan had walked into the training centre armed with two handguns and had opened fire on fellow military personnel who were having last-minute medical and dental checks before being deployed to Afghanistan – whereupon gunfire erupted around the base as the two accomplices were captured.
The Daily Telegraph says that one of the assailants had holed himself up in a brain injury unit, where he was surrounded by SWAT teams, Four police officers were wounded before he was arrested. 500+ troops were deployed to lock down Fort Hood as helicopters swept overhead.
Lieutenant Commander Cone mouthed for the eager press:
‘It’s been a terrible tragedy. It’s stunning. We are absolutely devastated. The shooter was killed. He was a soldier. We since then have apprehended two additional soldiers who are suspects. There were eyewitness accounts that there may have been more than one shooter’.
The violence erupted shortly before a graduate ceremony for soldiers was due to start at the base. Enter President Barack Obama with this bromide for public consumption:
“These are men and women who have made the selfless and courageous decision to risk, and at times give, their lives to protect us’.
‘It‘s difficult enough when we lose these brave men and women overseas. It is horrifying when we lose them on American soil’.
Step forward, also, Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, who pronounced:
‘Our dedicated military personnel have sacrificed so much in service to our country and it sickens me that the men and women of Fort Hood have been subjected to this senseless, random violence’.
Okay, that’s enough. Base commanders and the Pentagon stated that they had no early indication of the motive for the shootings. As the story ‘line’ matured, though, it was being said that the killer, aged 39, was ‘upset about being ordered to be deployed to Iraq’.
Note the convenient Islamic name description of the now assailant, who was initially declared dead. However some British reports mid-morning were saying that the assailant has survived.
THE FORT HOOD SHOOTINGS: THE REAL STORY
The shootings were staged in order to cover up what was really happening behind the scenes which was as follows:
(1): George H. W. D. V. D. Bush, the head of THE BOX GANG working with the Clintons, had stored some or all of the stolen/diverted 1933 dollar currency Chinese currency boxes referenced in our reports dated 4th and 5th November 2009 at Fort Hood. These boxes form part of the Settlement negotiated with the Chinese parties, who were immediately double-crossed by the Americans.
(2): We do not know at the time of posting whether George Bush Sr. had flown in to Fort Hood from Germany, but as this base is located close to Crawford and other Bush Crime Family locations, we believe this to be HIGHLY PROBABLE.
(3): Whether Bush Sr. flew into Fort Hood to be joined with the stolen/diverted Chinese-sourced currency boxes, or was accompanying stolen boxes on the plane, is not strictly material, because what we DO KNOW is as follows:
(4): An operation was mounted at Fort Hood to CONFISCATE THE STOLEN CHINESE CURRENCY BOXES FROM BUSH SR., which achieved its objective. The currency boxes, forming part of the Settlement that Adolf Schickelbusch sabotaged with the duplicitous assistance of his agent, Chancellor Angela Merkel [see preceding reports], were retrieved.
(5): It is likely that the shoot-out which occurred for public consumption was a diversionary operation masking a parallel shoot-out involving Bush bodyguards and US military, although we cannot confirm this. Certainly, the ‘mainstream’ media, as usual, is running the wrong story.
(6): The deployment of 500+ heavily armed troops, and the fact that military helicopters were called in, implies a sizeable operation, which would be make little sense in the context of a shooting such as is described in the media. That does not diminish the nastiness and tragedy of the loss of life as reported: but when this operation was planned, loss of life was factored into the equation.
• It’s called cynically: COLLATERAL DAMAGE.
[Do they CARE that at least seven personnel lost their lives and over 30 were injured in a parallel cover-up operation? That’s like asking whether the sacrifice of over 100 special US operatives who spearheaded the Bush-directed seizure of the Central Bank of Iraq in Baghdad in 2003, all of whom were massacred immediately afterwards so that none of them would survive to report for posterity what actually happened, was an accident. That operation went badly wrong, and was exposed, too: reliable Iraqi eyewitnesses supplied the necessary reports and confirmation].
It is impossible at this juncture to be sure whether the gunfire was part of the main operation, i.e., the whole operation was synchronised, or whether two separate operations were run in parallel. But that is hardly material, given the momentous details and substance of this report.
(7): Separately, we understand that George Bush Sr.’s assets in the Caribbean – ‘his’ money – was seized at the same time, or at least at some stage on 5th November 2009.
(8): Adolf Schickelbusch has also been informed that ‘you are not going to get a penny. You will be paid NOTHING’. [Assuming, that is, that he's still vertical. But that's all we know right now].
This reflects the fact identified earlier, namely that these Germans ALWAYS go too far. Bush Sr. WENT TOO FAR by sabotaging EVEN the carefully nuanced arrangements worked out with the Chinese authorities and parties, and with the other sovereign powers, including the British Monarchical Power. He thought he could carry on carrying on, blind to the fact that IT’S OVER.
• As a consequence, HE HAS LOST EVERYTHING. HE HAS BEEN CLEANED OUT.
NOW. As indicated, we cannot yet confirm that GEORGE BUSH HIMSELF flew into Fort Hood. If he did, it stands to reason, given the above FACTS, which have themselves been CONFIRMED, that George H. W. Bush would have been arrested OR HORIZONTALISED.
We may yet learn that this took place.
All we can do at this stage is to remind you of the phrase ‘Not YET’ in the preceding report.
Was Bush 43 also arrested, horizontalised or all of the above during this showdown?
WE HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT WHEN CERTAIN STRUCTURES WERE MADE AWARE THAT WE HAD WORKED THIS OUT, THERE WAS A STUNNED SILENCE.
• THE STRUCTURES CONCERNED WERE ‘SHOCKED TO HEAR IT FROM US’, WE WERE TOLD.
PART OF THE PREVIOUSLY REFERENCED INTERNATIONAL CLEAN-UP OPERATION
Who ordered this operation? It would have been ordered, or at least condoned (see below) by the ‘President ‘of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama, who, we have repeatedly been told, has been anxious to complete the Settlements and was known to be fretting under the weight of the general contempt in which he was being held by all ‘in the know’, concerning his apparent inability to get his ARROGANT inferiors to carry out his instructions on this score.
At the same time, this operation implies the likelihood that it forms part of the INTERNATIONAL clean-up associated inter alia with the presence in the United States of 72 heavily armed cadres tasked with ENFORCEMENT of the Writ of Execution by all means, including the use of FORCE. Therefore to state that the operation will have been ordered by President Obama may be too simplistic. There are further major developments in the pipeline, and further revelations too.
Nevetheless, Mr Obama has been systematically sabotaged by penetration operatives, including Rahm Emanuel, Lawrence Summers, Timothy Geithner, Mrs Hillary Clinton, and Dr Ben Bernanke.
If this assessment is correct, we would anticipate some high-level dismissals or resignations from the US Government soon, if it turns out that this DECISIVE ACTION has indeed broken the impasse and destabilised the opposition beyond any likelihood of recovery. We shall (soon) see.
MsCharlyCorday Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
To quote SNL ‘The Continental’ (played by Christopher Walken), “Wow! Wowee-wow-wow-wow!” We certainly live in ‘interesting times’ when this scenario is more plausible, and ‘feels more right’, than the ‘official story’.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Remember that there are currently outbreaks in Ukraine, Romania, Turkey, and now China. Relatives in the Ukraine report that stores there are running out of face masks. People are starting to stock up on supplies in case of a full blown pandemic. Get daily Swine Flu Pandemic updates without the usual bullshit at http://fluhealer.blogspot.com
November 6th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
There was a comment on an article yesterday saying that in a Fox news interview his brother said that other soldiers were harrasing him and bragging about the slaughters they had carried out in Iraq and that he went postal because he didn’t want to go to Iraq and participate in that. If that’s true it’s interesting that this article fails to mention such a relevent piece of information.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
The REAL assassins of President Kennedy were never apprehended and executed – they took over (or rather maintained their control and power over) the government with their assassination of President Kennedy – the Fed Reserve remained in control and power (President Kennedy’s Executive Order terminating the Fed Reserve was never carried out; Vietnam was exploded into total war for the military industrial complex and the pentagon warmongering fascists in control, and the CIA’s international drug smuggling operations furthered). Nearly 50 years later, and the criminals in charge are still able to withhold the truth under “national security” assertions -WHY? BECAUSE THE SAME CRIMINAL ELEMENTS AND AGENCIES RESPONSIBLE ARE STILL IN POWER – If the WHOLE TRUTH were to come forth, it would bring down the utterly corrupt Pentagon, end the CIA, NSA, Military Intelligence et al and many who may still be alive would be executed for their participation and knowledge.
Okahoma City – the REAL masterminds and participants behind OKC have NEVER been apprehended and brought to justice/executed! 9/11 – in BROAD DAYLIGHT ON LIVE TV WITH THOUSANDS OF EYE WITNESSES/VICTIMS AT “GROUND ZERO” WHO SAW AND EXPERIENCED THE DEMOLITIONS AND BOMBS, AND THE DELIBERATE CONTROLLED DEMOLITION OF THE BUILDINGS THAT RESULTED IN MASS MURDER OF TENS OF THOUSANDS (INCLUDING THOSE WHO HAVE DIED OR ARE NOW DYING FROM TOXIC EXPOSURE FROM THE NWO’S ACTS OF TERRORISM!) — Has the Pentagon leadership been arrested and brought to justice? What about the CIA, FBI, NSA, Israeli terrorists known to have participated in the “construction” wiring of explosives in the building?! Or the Larry Silverstein who was massively enriched by the successful demolition of his buildings – who ADMITTED ON VIDEO THAT BUILDING 7 WAS DELIBERATELY “PULLED” (BROUGHT DOWN BY EXPLOSIVE CHARGES!) His own admission that “people in charge decided to pull the building” — WHO DECIDED? Who placed the explosives and charges in the building and wired them IN A MATTER OF A FEW HOURS?!!!
The REAL terrorists working for the NWO Nazi Global Fascists carry out the most blatant acts of mass terrorism against the People and our Republic, the government operatives openly obstruct justice and participate in the terrorism, carry out ongoing war crimes and crimes against humanity — WHEN WILL THE PEOPLE FINALLY RISE UP TO TERMINATE THIS GLOBAL THREAT?!!!
GOOD NEWS! Jesus Christ in His Word the Holy Bible has declared that He is coming to execute absolute total vengeance upon ALL the wicked AND THEY SHALL NOT ESCAPE – NEITHER IN DEATH NOR WHEN THEY HIDE THEMSELVES IN THEIR SUB-TERRANEAN “HARDENED” BUNKERS” — The day of recompense and eternal righteous judgment and eternal perpectual torment is coming for ALL who side with the wicked. Those responsible for the murders at Ft. Hood will not escape God’s wrath and judgment for their part in these murders.
To the New World Fourth Reich Global Fascist Terrorists, the “useful idiots” who willingly serve the Beast:
You think your sins and crimes are hidden? That “no one seeth us; who heareth us?” That you can cloak and obscure your wickedness in the darkness in which you dwell? You shall not escape God’s wrath and judgment for your wickedness and crimes.
YOU fascist trolls who post on this site; who seek to obscure and bring confusion, cover and concealment of your “comrades’ crimes” – You think you shall be judged innocent and guiltless of the crimes you seek to hide, aid and abet? YOU ARE THE ENEMIES OF THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT – YOU SHALL NOT ESCAPE ETERNAL DAMNATION FOR YOUR WICKEDNESS AND HATRED OF AND WARRING AGAINST THE TRUTH! Because you do not love the Truth, God has already sent you a strong delusion that you are fully convinced and believe a lie (the NWO) so that you will not escape God’s righteous judgment and damnation for your sins.
Keep it up – Keep mocking God and the Truth – sawing off the ONLY Branch and means of escape from your much deserved damnation. Confident and haughty in your foolish pride and blind ignorance, children of darkness whose conscience has been seared, revelling and walling in their own debauchery and blindness, commending others in their sin and rebellion against the Truth and all that is called God. God is about to settle all debts – and your arrogance will turn to unimaginable and inescapable terror – for there shall be no where to run, no where to hide, no escape from facing God in His wrath in your sins. Laugh and mock today — YOU WON’T BE LAUGHING AND MOCKING SOON.
Richard Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
I’d be willing to answer your questions, but the infowars censors would probably block the truth.
Richard Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Alex evidently doesn’t want the truth getting out, it might hurt dvd sales.
MsCharlyCorday Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Damn straight Richard, AJ and his cronies aren’t seeking the truth and a way forward, they just want to keep their functionally illiterate audience in a perpetual state of dismay and confusion, the better to control them to whatever ends they have in mind.
Richard Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
It certainly seems that way.
Richard Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Why do you think these comment boards are front end moderated in the first place?
Richard Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
God forbid U.S. attack voters should have their noses rubbed in their filth on Alex Jones’ website.
MikeLittoris Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Perhaps but for the time being ….Bwah ha ha ha aha ha ha …
Jack Mehoff Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 12:05 am
100% SPOT ON!
I thought I was the only one who thought that all of these years. I guess I am not crazy after all.
Excellent post!
November 6th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
AJ = controlled dissent
You can rant about NWO, US/UK Govt, Illuminati, secret societies EU etc. all you want.
But if you mention those who are behind them, or a certain nationality or a certain religion your post probably wont appear. Just noticed that.
Hmmmmm…….
Richard Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 1:18 am
It’s called not practising what you preach, and infowars does it in spades. Part of the problem may be moderator specific, it could be solved by letting the comments post and then taking down the problem ones like a lot of other sites do.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Thanx for posting that Semfi
but you should have credited the source:
http://www.worldreports.org/ne.....ency_boxes
November 6th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Certain of my posts appear, others disappear immediately.
That’s not about abusiveness/foul language/racism etc. Its about controlled dissent – according to content. There’s certain things you cant say here. Unfortunately. Has anyone else figured it out? AJ is great as far as he goes. But there are places he just wont go. Go figure.
Richard Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Agreed.
Richard Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 1:32 am
You’ve bought the sincere veneer, Alex is either a world class hypocrite or a front. He’s grown up a lot since I started trying to help him, he’s got a ways to go, I hope that he keeps working at it.
He can blame the incumbency’s partner in crime plutocracy till he’s blue in the face. If he wants to be effective he needs to lay the axe to the root of the attack voter electorate tree. They’re the ones returning the capitol building butchers incumbency of evil to office 94% of the time election after election. I hope that the DOD and Federal Reserve teach the attack voter democracy sadists a lesson in military economics that they won’t soon forget. It’s unfortunate that the minority of americans who want peace, prosperity and good government are caught up in collective punishment. It’s the best non violent solution that I can think of and the lesser of two evils compared to the global rampage and killing spree that the U.S. has been on.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
God has loosed the spirit of Ishmail, the wild man, upon America in order to execute His Righteous Judgment upon a nation which He once blessed.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
America is reaping what it has sowed.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Firstly all those that are saying muslims are against the west….hmmn….if that was the case would I not be killing my neighbour right now? The bible has sections inside it whereby Jesus commands people be put to death in front of him so to say christians don’t kill is stupid, god even orders people to be put to death so you can stop talking rubbish. Yes he didn’t act like a crazed gun nut, yes the goverment probably do have drugs to control us…..they have been running drug tests since the 50’s and earlier haven’t they? However I myself has felt first hand persecution in the armed forces for being a Muslim and it is severe, urine inside my boots, bacon in my food and racist comments as well as exclusion from events…….irrespective of my religion if i was black and the abuse had been racist, I would at times feel like doing this. I do feel that the world is under control and that all the evidence points to another cover up…..much the same as I believe that a steel building will collapse due to fire so as to emphasise the point that tower number 7’s collapse was feasible. People need to wake up….smell the coffee!! The amount off people that are in denial from the truth is unreal…..
Richard Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
They’re not in denial, they want war, that’s what the problem is.
MontgomeryScott Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
James UK says:
“The bible has sections inside it whereby Jesus commands people be put to death in front of him”
Haven’t seen this yet, old chum.
Perhaps you would care to give us all a reference verse or two?
Methinks you are speaking out of the wrong orifice…
November 6th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Why are my comments being automatically flagged for “moderation” and then dumped?!
MsCharlyCorday Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
So that was an ‘acceptable’ comment?
MsCharlyCorday Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
What about this; and if not why not:
For a good movie illustration of cold-war era sleeper-cells, at risk of being activated by a special code phrase (a line from Robert Frost’s poem “Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening”), rent the 1977 spy thriller ‘Telefon’ with Donald Pleasence as the rogue soviet agent, Charles Bronson as KGB sent to neutralize him, and Lee Remick as Bronson’s female CIA counterpart.
Richard Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Because this is a fake patriot web site and you’re not toeing the infowars party line. If you want to get posted try ranting about the nwo globalists.
MontgomeryScott Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
HMMM…mor COINTELPRO…
‘Corday’, and ‘Richard’ are commenting on a false posting…
They just LOVE any movie that makes Soviet Russia the ‘hero’…
Richard Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
No moron, people who believe in the first amendment and are sick and and tired of all the hypocracy.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
This is bullshit guys/gals.
They want to re-write your Goddamn Constitution and Omit the Bill of Rights. They want to kill for the Money-God. Not just the US but the World and you’re Chatting on the Goddamn Internet!
Prime-Minister Harper has been negotiating behind closed doors here too. We face Carbon Taxation and a Harmonized Sales Tax. The Premier of Ontario just expanded Iroquis National Park by 225′000 acres, for what? Not sure yet. But I now have a list of 29 Police sub-stations that both explicitly and expletively told me that if or when the Word comes down that they would remember who they’re protecting. Do I have to apply for Dual-Citizenship to come down there and hold your hand and walk you to Goddamn Washington?
Talk, talk, talk… DO SOMETHING!!!!
November 6th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Alex has a family show, and does not want street language on his show, that’s all.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
OK I get it, YOU determine what info your pathetic lemmings get; that’s what you mean by InfoWars!
MsCharlyCorday Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
You’re too cute by half, picking and choosing what comments to post; passive-aggressive control-freak ASSHOLES
MontgomeryScott Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
“OK I get it, YOU determine what info your pathetic lemmings get; that’s what you mean by InfoWars!”
“You’re too cute by half, picking and choosing what comments to post; passive-aggressive control-freak ASSHOLES”
TOO BAD MS. CORDAY didn’t choose to comment on the article in question, instead of attacking posters PERSONALLY.
Charlotte Corday: IS THIS YOU?
IF I was a Muslim, and actually had READ the KO’RAN, and seen the various commands within this BOOK (singular) to force everyone to submit to the different LAWS of ‘allah’, and then was also an American, given certain inalienable rights (life, liberty, and the persuit of happines), these two teachings would have caused me to pursue a PSYCHOLOGICAL career, in order to explain the dicotomy of my inner conflicts…
AND, as a member of the U.S. ARMY, about to be deployed to one of the ‘HOLY’ nations, to perhaps murder some more ‘fellow believers’, this switch inside would have SNAPPED SHUT…
Doncha just LOVE Goldman-Sachs? ‘Controlling wars for over 90 years…’
Richard Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
How do you know that she didn’t post about the article idiot?
November 6th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
You stupid morons. This guy gave away his stuff before he went to kill. The government brainwashed him into doing that as well? Retards. None of your shit is ever backed up by facts. 100% speculation and creative spin.
November 6th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Take the tinfoil hat off. No conspiracy here. The guy went nuts, simple as that. Show some respect to the families of the victims. Don’t insult them with your stupidity insinuating this nutjob was setup or controlled. Have some common sense people.
November 6th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Rothschild says….Excelllllennnt…… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc9_cDdLsms
November 6th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Sorry about my angry outburst, infowarriors; I just get exasperated when I take a lot of time and trouble to look up, link, and compose what I think what I think is a salient comment, only to have it censored for what seems to be arbitrary reasons. It’s like being in an abusive relationship, crazy-making!
Richard Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
I’ve delt with it for months and so have a lot of other readers, it just shows the hypocracy of Alex and others at infowars.
November 6th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
There looking into his internet postings? Lookout
They said on cnn he had two guns a semi- auto FN hand gun and a revolver
November 6th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Having read through the blogs with an open mind (although I find a lot of what Alex J and his guests say are real eye openers and make sense), I feel that “OhCrapNotAgain” ’s theory on two handguns leaves a lot to be considered!!!To what extremes will the elitists and their puppets in government go to pursue their agenda??? How much more do “We the people” have to endure before we take back control of our constitutional, civil, democratic and human rights??? Who do these elitists think they are??? God on Earth??? Enough is enough. Wake up people!!!
November 6th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
If you will forgive a long consideration…..
To the families of the dead, including those of the doctor, may I offer my sorrow at the loss and suffering to follow, and with minimal speculation. It appears yet to early to know who to be angry at, although the article’s thesis of possible Manchurian candidacy or some other brainwashing seems worth a look. Not enough facts yet, it seems, but I don’t mean to suggest that the author is jumping to conclusions. Considering the well established patterns of those who take profit in manipulating public opinion rather than inspiring its freedoms and a more loving attitude, the role of such a mechanism in this case is likely to remain stochastic to our view, becoming verified only by the consistency of additional events designed to shock and persuade us to surrender our individual sovereignty in the name of necessity (as William Pitt would suggest). The truth may only be obtainable by the patterns set over time, from which we, the people of this time, can render a verdict, right or wrong. In any event, we should not forget that we, the people of this nation, are not under any obligation to prove anything to our government or anyoe else, and that, after due consideration, we own the rights and consequennces of our decisions as free men in a free nation, as long as we don’t act too reashly or quietly surrender our birthright.
November 6th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
…it was interesting. When I first heard about it on the radio…they said THREE shooters…then there was only one!?? A crazy Major going postal is more acceptable to the propaganda machine than a coordinated attack….in an army base.
November 6th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
This doesn’t look like a sleeper agent or anything of the sort. Sounds like he was a fairly decent, mild-mannered guy, who couldn’t deal with the glaring hypocrisy of being a Muslim while serving in the US military. The last straw was being told he had to deploy to the Middle East to help kill his brothers and sisters.
He begged to get out, offered to pay back his med school money, and still they refused. So he snapped. No terrorism here, just a morally-conflicted soldier who was pushed to the brink.
All this talk about him being a patsy makes no sense to me. Sure, he’s Arab and Muslim, but this event does NOT help the Pentagon’s PR campaign for the wars at all. Mainly because it is quite clear that the Army MADE him crazy. This is extremely damaging to the Pentagon, as it reveals a vulnerability they don’t like to talk about — any soldier and any time could snap like this (all it takes is a conscience), and there is nothing they can do to prevent it. The crazier and more unjust their wars become, the crazier their soldiers will become, until they all go mad like this.
November 6th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Just got a Facebook message from a friend in the Army stationed at Ft. Bragg, NC. Here’s what he said…
“We got a breifing today on something that might interest you. The army is piecing some shit together and is trying to prepare for a false flag situation. My unit got briefed on domestic threats and homeland security breachings and shit. The shit your talking about seems to be true man, the shooting at fort hood is connected with alot of other things appearantly and its all hush hush. They also brought out the fact that there are more and more car bombs being used and found in the U.S., this shit is wild.”
November 6th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Rothschild says… MOST Excellllennnt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
November 6th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Oh no, you’ve figured me out. You guys are so bright. NUTCASES!!!!!!!!!!!
oldenough Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
What are you talking about? Yes, I know there are some nutcases on this forum. But what I don’t know is just exactly who you are, and what the “guys” have figured out.
Perhaps you can expand upon your not-so-well thought out post?
November 6th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Well, yes. First the media reported that there were two other people arrested, but released. Who the hell were they? Then the media reported that this guy was dead, but he is alive.
November 6th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Might be already said, but no facebook account for Nidal Malik Hasan. Just “common interest” groups calling for his death. Great, just like Mcveigh.
November 6th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
alex, your ss fellow travellors must be freaking out about now, i see so many on this site already defending hasan’s action, calling him a patsy or insinuating he was on drugs. your article here states because he was laughing and joking he could not possibly have done this. this really shows the ignorance of the people who visit this site. in israel, after studies of hundreds of suicide bombings, this is exactly the kind of attitude and preparations these people exhibit. those who have survived suicide bombings are often shocked to learn the gut who had the bomb on him was laughing and smiling at the time. don’t assume the attitudes of someone who belives in allah will mirror the attitudes of a western loser who may commit the same act. these people are usually not the poor and uneducated the press would love for you to beleive as culpuble. they are most times highly educated and from good families. maybe a study of the koran would do much to clue your followers in for what they are dealing with. thanks to our pc culture we are allowing the infiltration of our military and security organs to make these people better at what they do. rather than continually posting about so called jewish conspiricies taht don’t exist why no warn the people about the true nature and danger to the country that Islam poses. oh i forgot, the nazis and other far right wackos have allied themselves with al-qeada. maybe that explains, like the president, your silence on the happenings at ft hood.
322skull Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Rothschild says….TOP Shelf!!!!….Most Excelllllennnnt….Your check is on the way….
November 6th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
wb….Rothschild says…. MOST Excelllennnnt …RELAX Your check is on the way…..
November 6th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
of course he was in a good mood, he was about to become a martyr, that pleases muslims to no end, because they know that they are going to paradise to be with 70 young virgins.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Rothschild says ….Don’t look at this…??? http://www.youtube.com/user/po.....dQ8ctWqxYU
November 6th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
The underlying thing that is wrong in this country now is the ‘Christian Supremacists,’ not anyone w/ Muslim beliefs. This country was founded on freedom from religious persecution, and yet because of an attack on our nation that involved all Saudi Arabians, we have the knee-jerk reaction, attack Afghanistan (which the Soviets were bogged down in forever and could never resolve; and is also a shithole and can do nothing to further our corporate interests, which is the reality of where we’ve been militarily for years . . . sad . . . and Iraq, when we should have been taking the screws to the Saudi government.
This war on terror is a neverending war. I’m not saying this joker who is being drawn up as the lone nut was legit–I mean, we paid for his medical school to get where he was and I appreciate his 12 years of service, but if he pulled this alone (and that’s kind of a big question based on the mainstream media reports of bullets flying from all directions in that room), then he is indeed a pussy for not wanting to pay us back for his degree.
Frustrating . . . anyway, we need to get back to freedom of religion, not persecute or judge people of Muslim or any other faith, and as Christians . . . well, actually act like Christians–not like Nazis.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
“Everything about Hasan screams patsy” does it? I read that his brother told Fox news that his brother was tired of being harrased for being a muslim and listening to people brag about slaughtering iraqis and that he didn’t want to go to Iraq and be part of that. Does that make him a patsy? I don’t think so.
Zionist Mafia Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
New and disturbing revelations about the shooter have just surfaced. According to neighbors who had little contact with him prior to these events, the day before the shooting he was passing out copies of the Torah and proclaiming that Jews were superior to gentiles. Another source at Fort Hood who barely knew him says that as the shooting occurred he could be heard yelling “die Goyim die” repeatedly.
Richard Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
Is this your idea of a bad joke, do you have a reputable source for this info?
November 6th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
I don’t buy into conspiracy theories but if I did this would be a good one. Here’s why:
Officer (Major) with almost 20 years in the service is close to retirement eligibility
One shooter with 2 pistols kills 13 and wounds 30; at one bullet per person 43 rounds would have been fired. That is at least one reload per pistol.
Most victims were soldiers; skilled at defending themselves and not like easy civilian targets. They would fight back even with no weapons.
Two other soldiers were held and then released after initial witnesses ID’d them as shooters
Hasan’s ID was released within 2 hours of shooting
Hasan’s confidential military performance records were in the media within 60 minutes of Hasan being ID’d.
Hasan has never been married and has no children making him expendable
Hasan had been in Washington DC for 6 years at Walter Reed before being transferred to Ft Hood 6 months ago.
The term Patsy certainly seems plausible. The truth will be known… if he doesn’t die first. I would think a close look at the 2 soldiers who were released is in order.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
I heard an interview with one of the injured vctim’s mom, she said she talked to her daughter and her daughter kept saying “THEY” shot me, I can’t believe THEY shot me”.. Why would she say “THEY shot me”????????????
November 6th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Can anyone say WAG THE FUCKING DOG?
November 6th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
If we weren’t in Iraq, nobody would be dead and our economy wouldn’t be doing its swan song.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Who benefits from this mass murder just like after 9/11? Cant let a good crisis go to waste now can they.. The message is be afraid again, be terrified, we will kill you in your own country now. (The only thing the willing media didnt drag the dust off was the tired and worn bin laden and zawahiri videos –give it time, they will bring out the dead bin laden saying they did it)Now slaves give up even more liberties for security. Not only does this help justify the illegal wars but also they justify the Patriot Act (see, we need this). By getting those scary white robed koran reading muslims attacking Americans again, we will get Americans angry just in the same manner after 9/11 ready for revenge.They are playing us for fools again and we will roll over and give up even more of our freedoms.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Isn’t it obvious that this was intelligence black ops? another va tech student brainwashed or implanted at langly. he saw the queen of diamonds or got his telefon call. what’s the big mystery?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Are you kidding? What media outlets have you been watching? The liberal-left media has done just about everything to downplay the Islamic connection. The politically correct media establishment allows no meaningful discussion of the relationship between Islamic theology and jihad violence.
I don’t recall Klebold and Harris getting inspiration from the Bible, or claiming that being saved by Christ prompted them the violence. Hasan, on the other hand, was known for his Islamic evangelism, jihadist statements, and for allegedly shouting “Allah Akbar” during the shootings. The comparison between a devout Muslim jihadist and some cultural Christians is complete intellectual dishonesty.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
ALLOWING ANY MUSLIM IN THE US MILITARY AT THIS JUNCTURE, IS LIKE ASKING JAPANESE KAMIKAZES IN WWII IF THEY WOULD HAVE LIKED TO JOIN UP IN OUR SERVICE.
GIVE THEM TIME, THEY WILL INFILITRATE TO THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT, OH WAIT THEY ALREADY HAVE, ……………….OBAMA.
I SAY BOOT ALL THEIR KORAN THUMPING ASSES OUT OF THE USA JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE.
EVERY DAMNED ONE OF THEM.
AND ANY BLEEDING HEART LIBERAL ACLU WHINER READING THIS AND SAYS IT SOMEHOW “IMPUGNS” ON THEIR GOD GIVEN AMERICAN AMERICAN RIGHTS, CAN KISS MY ASS.
1american john Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Well, I can agree with this post. Get them out of the military.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:04 am
Oswald, Sirhan, Pope Shooter, MLK Slayer, and many various incarnations of any of the above.
over the years
And now this dude.
They all served a purpose for the real “government”
All you need ask is “what was it”, exactly what purpose was served, and follow backwards, and then the dots suiddenly all fall into place.
Sprinter Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 12:08 am
Can You Say………….
MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX AND ISRAEL?
November 7th, 2009 at 12:31 am
Sounds like you are correct ! Hasan is not a terrorist! Since he shot people he is a murderer and a criminal! The war is useless! We all know this? Obama is the terrorist with his green/red movement.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:32 am
remember remember the fifth of november, the gunpowder treason and plot. i know no reason the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot. i saw this coming a mile away
November 7th, 2009 at 2:26 am
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Brent Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 7:22 am
So?
What’s ur point?
Matt Mosley Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 7:45 am
DARKside is a fucking dopehead
Julian Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Shut your face Mr COINTELPRO shill
Want to know more about DARKside? Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 10:39 am
No, I didn’t think so.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:12 am
I thought it was spelled “Illumanist”?
Anyway…
The TRUTH about 9/11 is that Islamic terrorists hijacked real planes with innocent people (now dead as well) and crashed them into buildings killing even more innocents. If there were insiders from the American government involved, they were very few and very powerful. If there were explosive devices in the buildings, the only purpose they served was to make sure the job was done and successfully implicate the American government as a whole in the process and smear the Jewish people (note: the elite families my call themselves Jews but they are the synagogue of Satan). Those same entities worked with known Muslim terrorist organizations who have killed many other innocents throughout the world and they support the existing infiltration by them into both the American and British government.
Read the new book that C.A.I.R.E. and the O.I.C. don’t want you to see entitled “MUSLIM MAFIA”. This is an in-depth expose behind what’s really going on in Washinton at the moment. The TRUTH is that grass-roots Islam has a huge role to play in the New World Order along with the elites and bankers. Don’t forget that the secret societies have two faces as well. The MASONS and highly Arabic influenced SHRINERS. Not only did it give the powers that be the excuse to take away more rights and freedoms, but the war on terror served to take out one of the two opposing Islamic sects that have been fighting for a long time and quell the rage of the American people. Tell the whole truth. Not a selective version of it.
Richard Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 11:08 am
If you think that these buildings were wired with enough material to bring theme down in the middle of downtown New York without the full knowlege and complicity of large elements of the U.S. governement, including the incumbency that covered it up, and the security services, you’re living in ga ga land. It was designed to start wars for forced democratization, oil and drugs, not discredit the U.S. government and jews.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:16 am
Guy Fawkes was not a hero either btw, people. He was trying do destabilize a government and kill innocent people too. He was employed by one of the active tiers of the Illuminati way back then as well. Beware some who would call themselves “revolutionaries”. They might consider themselves such and scream it long enough so that others believe it too, but it really depends on what side of the fence you are on.
Jesus is a black woman named Frank Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 4:33 am
What active tier? What side of the fence? Come on we need to know this valuable information
so that we to can be complete truthers. Oh and btw what innocent people? Back then the Pepsi and Coke guys didn’t come and fill up machines in 1605. So I doubt anyone in Westminster Palace could be considered innocent people. Guilty by association. Guy Fawkes only crime was being Catholic, because all religion is fucking ridiculous….
turd Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 6:00 am
So you don’t believe in God. Einstein believed in got, are you saying you’re smarter then Einstein? How are tasty sugar beverages relevant to anything?
Antz Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 9:40 am
He never mentiond being smarter than einstein. Richard dawkins doesnt belive in god, are you saying your smarter than richard dawkins?
The point he was making about the coke/pepsi people is that they would have been the only innocent people in westminster…..
Einstein Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 10:45 am
I didn’t believe in a personal god (like Christians etc.), or a mystical god. I sometimes used the word god as a short hand and equated it with the laws of physics themselves. So maybe you could argue I was a kind of pantheist.
I kept trying to explain this for fucking years that I do not agree with your personal god shit. For real. You piss me off in life and then you twist the words of a dead man you fucking degenerate creep.
turd Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
I’m not saying I’m smarter than the atheist Richard Dumbkins. However, I will say Albert Einstein is.
Although never coming to belief in a personal God, he recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe. The Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: “Firmly denying atheism, Einstein expressed a belief in “Spinoza’s God who reveals himself in the harmony of what exists.” This actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist: “I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details.” Einstein’s famous epithet on the “uncertainty principle” was “God does not play dice” – and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was “Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”
Do you disagree? Just to be talking about Dumbkins in the same conversation as Einstein is a disgrace to both religion and science.
And maybe they didn’t have cans of soda pop in 1605 but they did have cooks and other servants that were murdered, but what’s the difference, guilty by association right? Where does it stop, might as well murder the farmers for growing the food and the butcher for the meat, then we don’t want to forget about the blacksmith for making the butchers knifes, I’m sure I could go on but what’s the point?
November 7th, 2009 at 5:48 am
This mass murderer was just as deranged as those who think it was a CIA/Jewish/Obama/Neo-COm/Bin Laden/Clingon conspiracy.
Neo-COm Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Peter, Twickenham, UK is the stupidest name I’ve ever heard.
November 7th, 2009 at 7:46 am
This is the kind of bullsht story that gives Truthers a bad name.
NOT EVER ACTION IS A FUCKING CONSPIRACY YOU DICKS.
jesus h christ Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 10:54 am
look out, we’ve got a smart guy here
November 7th, 2009 at 8:48 am
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November 7th, 2009 at 9:03 am
may be the guy thought that he was in iraq “fighting” (sarcasm)
November 7th, 2009 at 9:32 am
this guy is a palistinian just like sir han sir han, of bobby kennedy fame, they are much easyer to mind fck by the cia, this is a classic false flagg to tell congress and the senate to follow instructions or this is what will happen to you!!! get it ! mr. congressman we can get you anywere, even on a military base no place on earth is safe if you dont follow our instructions and pass health care and the carbon bill ect. they used the threat of martial law for the stimulus bill!!!!!!
November 7th, 2009 at 9:59 am
this is a good video, time is running out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hmGK0cVvnk
November 7th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Manchurian candidate. Everytime war support goes down something like this always happens. Madrid bombimgs. London train Bombing. Shit I’ll bet they unearth another bin-laden tape for this. I’ll this “alleged” assassin might be “missing some time” if anyone did some really hard investigating. This is no longer some Occam’s Razor solution world. “Black is White and White is Black”
November 7th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Theres a reason we put all the Japanese in concentration camps during wwII.
Incidents like this are what we avoided during wwII. I have no doubt these incidents will continue.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Occam’s Razor is not the blunt tool being wielded by the loonies at the moment.
Their version does not take not of the key word ‘unneccesarily’.
That is to say, *all* evidence must be taken into account before you choose the ’simplest’ theory.
This correct form of Occam’s Razor is just common sense, but would force their ‘theories’ to take account of oh .. i don’t know.. the freefall of WTC7..
November 7th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Whatever happened to John Doe #2 in the Tim McVeigh incident?
November 7th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
I’m not saying I’m smarter than the atheist Richard Dumbkins. However, I will say Albert Einstein is.
Although never coming to belief in a personal God, he recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe. The Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: “Firmly denying atheism, Einstein expressed a belief in “Spinoza’s God who reveals himself in the harmony of what exists.” This actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist: “I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details.” Einstein’s famous epithet on the “uncertainty principle” was “God does not play dice” – and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was “Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”
Do you disagree?
Just to be talking about Dumbkins in the same conversation as Einstein is a disgrace to both religion and science.
And maybe they didn’t have cans of soda pop in 1605 but they did have cooks and other servants that were murdered, but what’s the difference, guilty by association right? Where does it stop, might as well murder the farmers for growing the food and the butcher for the meat, then we don’t want to forget about the blacksmith for making the butchers knifes, I’m sure I could go on but what’s the point?
November 7th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
I’m not saying I’m smarter than the atheist Richard Dumbkins. However, I will say Albert Einstein is.
Although never coming to belief in a personal God, he recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe. The Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: “Firmly denying atheism, Einstein expressed a belief in “Spinoza’s God who reveals himself in the harmony of what exists.” This actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist: “I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details.” Einstein’s famous epithet on the “uncertainty principle” was “God does not play dice” – and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was “Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”
Do you disagree?
Just to be talking about Dumbkins in the same conversation as Einstein is a disgrace to both religion and science.
And maybe they didn’t have cans of soda pop in 1605 but they did have cooks and other servants that were murdered, but what’s the difference, guilty by association right? Where does it stop, might as well murder the farmers for growing the food and the butcher for the meat, then we don’t want to forget about the blacksmith for making the butchers knifes, I’m sure I could go on but what’s the point?
November 7th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
ROTHSCHILD SAYS…..secondum artem…… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....eature=fvw
November 7th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Maybe he was a patsy, maybe not: this i do know, and others should know it too, when someone is “done” upstairs, meaning that they have rationalized that they will die today, many people are the most cheerful and upbeat they’ve been in years. I don’t know if everyone will understand that statement, however it means that they will give no outward signs that they are about to kill themself or 13 people. The video is are alarming because in my understanding: his wearing of a white eqyptian cotton sheet are only worn by those about to commit islamic jihad. Maybe the tyranical us gov’t goons wanted this, maybe not. When i see a vid of a man dressed in a white sheet, laughing and smiling, and then i hear that the same man killed 13 people in cold blood: i think that he intended to die in the glory of allah: did he not scream Allah Akbhar before firing his weapon. Don’t fighters in afganistan and iraq scream the same thing before detonating in a crowded marketplace!!! What if this wasn’t the gov’t, (i know: pale the thought that gov’t didn’t do this one, unlike 911) and this was a real bonfide fundmentalist islamic fuckjob that is hell bent on purging the infidels and foreign devils!!! Retarded as he is, because he didn’t die in the cause of ALLAH, perish the thought: i bet even in his coma, he’s really scared that he fucked this up and didn’t die. Now he don’t get his 70 virgins in the land of milk and honey!!! If i was Allah, i’d fuck with this guy for the rest of his miserable life, throwing things at him out the sky, making his dick not work randomly, since most islamic men are gay, would that be a hugh let down or not? Seriously though, this guy better watch his ass if he wakes up: Jack Ruby’s are everywhere!!! Carlos Hathcock is in every treestand, building window, sewer vent, parking garage, and “blue chevy malibu with a hole in the trunk lid!!” HINT HINT. the games in play you islamic fruitcake motherfucker……………………….
November 8th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Now, today, they are asking witnesses to bring in all the “EVIDENCE” from the Gunfire to determine the trajectory. If they are so positive it was only one shooter and have hundreds of witnesses, why would they need more than what they already have? Sounding like the continuation coverup to me. Just like the JFK/RFK assassinations, when the CIA FBI SECRET SERVICE confiscated all films and photos and told everyone they didn’t see what they saw or heard what they heard.
November 11th, 2009 at 12:03 am
For those of you who are arguing whether Catholics or Protestants are the real christians, you are ALL corrupt nutcases. Your “religions” are lies just like islam and judaism. Get lives and stop worshiping dead guys on a stick.
November 17th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
I hear about mind influencing and mainly chalk it up to science fiction, until this event. Although I am still skeptical and believe many take it way too far, I do have suspicions now over this event and 911 (awful as it sounds and I hope I am wrong).
But using logic (if he was not insane or a sociopath), wouldn’t a psychiatrist be able to inflict much more damage to many more soldiers over a longer period of time (if his motive was anti American) under the guise of treatment?
At least Cheney was vindicated (conveniently).
I expect an uproar in the senate, assuming this was a mind influencing event. Many people I know will be watching closely now to see which senators lead the charge and ‘word smith’ an attack on the recent switch to more humane terror suspect policies.
November 19th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Wake up writer and do a little more research. Anderson Cooper made mention of the fact that the shooter is an “American Muslim” because of what a Muslim is. To the muslim faith, there are only two kinds of people in this world….muslims and infidels. Their Quran preachers that there are only two ways to treat an infidel…. convert them or kill them. Wake up people. This is what a muslim is. The Columbine shooters were a couple of screwed up kids whose killing spree had nothing to do with being protestants. The United States goverment, a few years ago, issued a report on the number of Muslims living in this country. The number was in the millions. This report also stated that of that number, only about 10 percent are “Bad Muslims”. It seems to me that if you take a look at what a muslim truly is… THEY ARE ALL BAD MUSLIMS!