 |
|
|
|||
 |
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|
||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|
|||
 |
|||
|
|
|||
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
|||
|
|
|||
|
Ex-CIA Chief James Woolsey handed down gag-order to 9/11 Firefighters
- Text size
Jerry Mazza
Infowars
October 20, 2009
This tale begins during and shortly after 9/11/2001, when a writer named Randy Lavello published a story at Prison Planet, Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center ‘Conspiracy Theory’ is a Conspiracy Fact. Among the many tales in this article, a number of which were picked up in Mike Rivero’s web site, what really happened, is a conversation between Lavello and Lieutenant Fireman and former Auxiliary Police Officer, Paul Isaac Jr. It’s a head-spinner…
|
|
 |
|
| The Woolsey gag order created an Omerta-like mob silence that Firefighters and Police Officers have had to deal with to this day. | |
“[Lieutenant Fireman and former Auxiliary Police Officer, Paul Isaac Jr.] explained to me [Lavello] that, ‘many other firemen know there were bombs in the buildings, but they’re afraid for their jobs to admit it because the ‘higher-ups’ forbid discussion of this fact.” Paul further elaborated that former CIA director Robert Woolsey, as the Fire Department’s Anti-terrorism Consultant, is sending a gag order down the ranks. ‘There were definitely bombs in those buildings,’ he told me.”
Isaac also addressed the FBI gag order in an article by Greg Syzmanski, saying “It’s amazing how many people are afraid to talk for fear or retaliation or losing their jobs.” He mentions that the FBI gag order placed on law enforcement and fire department officials prevented them from openly talking about any inside knowledge of 9/11. Syzmansky praised Isaacs in a highly interesting article titled One-Man Investigative Team.
Syzmansky wrote that “When he [Isaacs] worked as an auxiliary fireman specializing in emergency and disaster communications response, Isaac said after 9/11 he began monitoring all emergency units to see if any patterns or information about the perpetrators could be learned.
“Over the last four years he’s compiled information and names of civilians and firefighters, whose identities he keeps anonymous for their safety, who all claim to have either witnessed explosions in the towers or have information that a controlled demolition took place.” Isaacs is quoted as saying, “It’s just amazing how many people are afraid to talk for fear of retaliation or losing their jobs,” again regarding Woolsey’s FBI gag order placed on law enforcement and fire department officials, preventing them from openly talking about any inside knowledge of 9/11.
Researcher Vincent Sammartino, also in attendance at the WTC ‘open grave site’ on September 11, 2005, wrote the following on APFN, “I just got back from Ground Zero. People know the truth! Half of the police and firemen were coming up to us and telling us that they know 9/11 was an inside job. They were told not to talk about it. But they were supporting what we were doing! I had tears in my eyes.”
So, why would former CIA director Woolsey, as the Fire Department’s Anti-terrorism Consultant, be gagging Isaac and his colleagues about what they saw and heard, i.e. bombs exploding in the building if not to cover up the government conspiracy, the inside job behind the supposed demolition of the WTC by two jetliners, whose fuel fire supposedly melted the redundant steel frames which caved and caused a pyroplastic free-fall of each building in some ten seconds. All at once the conspiracy of the lone Muslim airliner hijackers destroying the towers goes down the drain, glub, glub! That’s why Firefighters and Police Officers were gagged.
In fact, click Rivero’s “what really happened” site above to get to get more linked interviews of Firefighters talking about explosions shortly after 9/11 occurred. Rivero is amazing at collecting data, classifying it, and incorporating it into his encyclopedic 9/11 site. Read what the heroes had to say.
For instance, “Lou Cacchioli, Firefighter in WTC 1: At that point, Cacchioli found one of the only functioning elevators, one only going as high as the 24th floor … ‘Tommy Hetzel was with me and everybody else also gets out of the elevator when it stops on the 24th floor,’ said Cacchioli. ‘There was a huge amount of smoke. Tommy and I had to go back down the elevator for tools and no sooner did the elevators close behind us, we heard this huge explosion that sounded like a bomb. It was such a loud noise, it knocked off the lights and stalled the elevator.’
Lou continues, ‘Luckily, we weren’t caught between floors and were able to pry open the doors. People were going crazy, yelling and screaming. And all the time, I am crawling low and making my way in the dark with a flashlight to the staircase and thinking Tommy is right behind me… I somehow got into the stairwell and there were more people there. When I began to try and direct down, another huge explosion like the first one hits. This one hits about two minutes later, although it’s hard to tell, but I’m thinking, ‘Oh. My God, these bastards put bombs in here like they did in 1993!’” Unfortunately, the bastards in 1993 and in 2001 had considerable help from the bastards in our government.
The Woolsey gag order created an Omerta-like mob silence that Firefighters and Police Officers have had to deal with to this day. Imagine their anger, seeing their buddies disappear in explosions, fire and smoke. Imagine having to swallow that anger, that grief and humiliation, for the grand purpose of America sinking into the grizzly War on Terror in a matter of days. Imagine having to work on the pile at Ground Zero knowing what you knew. Or having to play deaf, dumb and blind, as 340 Firefighters died, two fire paramedics and one FDNY Chaplain and as 23 New York Police officers and 36 Port Authority officers went down. Not to mention the 2800 plus civilians taken from their lives senselessly.
Is it any wonder then that Justice John Lehner recently killed the NYC CAN ballot initiative to reinvestigate 911. The Justice called the initiative “irrelevant,” and rejected the will of 80,000 New Yorkers who had signed petitions to make it to happen. Is it the specter of James Woolsey gagging the Justice, or Mayor Bloomberg? Bloomberg rejected the will of the people after they had twice voted against a third term for New York Mayors. And since Mayor Bloomberg is in the middle of a political campaign for his illegal third term, he might want to assure us that we’re not being gagged, like Justice Lehner or the Fire and Police Departments. We would like to hear the full 9/11 story presented by a truly independent and expert commission.
What Bush did, what is still being done, is in keeping with Hitler’s axiom: If you tell a lie, make sure it’s a big lie, and keep telling it till everyone believes or has to believe it for fear of seeming unpatriotic. And so it’s time to take the gag off, one way or the other. Let those Firefighters and Police officers speak without fear of retribution. Let the facts, the real facts of 911, gathered by engineers, architects, pilots, retired military men, first responders, citizens of New York and the world, speak for once loud and clear.
New Yorkers should take to the streets to protest the Justice’s gag order. Case in point: a few days ago the governor of Puerto Rico announced that he would fire 20,000 government workers to close his $4 billion deficit, once again balancing deficits on the backs of labor. This caused the people of Puerto Rico to pour into the streets in a spontaneous one-day strike! In fact, their Puerto Rican brothers and sisters in New York City joined in a March at the Puerto Rican government offices here. Their collective reaction made waves from the mainland to the island.
We don’t want to end up with an Emperor instead of a duly-elected Mayor, Governor, or President, and silence instead of justice. Why not bring the wheels of New York to a squealing halt in a similar strike? So for once we can hear the voice of truth on those scratchy fire and policeman’s walkie talkies. Then Mr. Woolsey can gag his old friends at the CIA or his new friends at the Wall Street Journal where he now writes guest columns. Or perhaps be gagged himself by Rupert “The Fox” Murdoch, yellow press media mogul of our time.
-
- Social bookmarks
- Email this article
-
- Print this page
- Share on Twitter
October 20th, 2009 at 9:40 am
Get off your asses America! Talk to everyone about the dollar’s demise! Use the ‘candy bars costing a dollar-plus now’ example to hammer the point home! Use the taxes being levied against us at every turn and a government who can’t get the books right as an example! USE ANYTHING! IT’S GUERRILLA INFO TIME!
WAGON! WAGON!
DEAD BODIES DRAGGIN’!
MCL
Red Dawn 09 Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:04 am
For if the 9/11 truth came out, its just the bullet we need to drive home to all the sheeple that the government is a fraud and needs replaced. Click my name for more information on todays hottest topics including swine flu,Ron Paul,Bilderberg and others. Movies,video’s,blog’s,text and when you cant cram anymore, Games. Updated daily and newly awakened patriots welcome.
timeline Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Timeline,
that is their agenda, in 2 years time you will not recognise America, gold and silver will be the thing to batter with, that is the elites currency, now is the time to react america, otherwise your children will be slaves to the government.
Rise up I say, as this information has come from sources in Australia, Alaska, New Zealand,
it is about oil and it will go up and down like a yo yo.
The elite will attack Iran around 2 years time (their Timeline) then the whole world will get involved.
Time is running out and the info that is coming out now is scarey, my friend who worked on oil fields said he overheard supervisors and CEO’s over the years talk about the take over.
They have infiltrated all religions, priests, pope, changed the text books and school Curriculum.
God help us act now the timeline is 2 years.
Love and peace
Test 2 Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
K N I G H T S OF M A L T A
Test 2 Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Ahh better, simple spacing works here, excellent.
twncpcone Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 9:30 am
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. After 8 years…not one single piece of verifiable debris from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations on 9-11 has ever been physically verified in any way by anyone. Witnesses, video, film, or photos have NEVER in aviation history physically verified a plane or plane crash….only wreckage does. Each plane had over 2 million time-stamped parts that could immediately ID it anywhere in the world. Not one single piece has ever been found.
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. The never ending global US war on terror is a murderous fraud for the ability to borrow trillions and kill millions in a war without end.
Test 5 Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
K.is N.is I.is G.is H.is T.is S.is OF M.is A.is L.is T.is A.is
If this posts, I challenge anyone here to try to post the above name, without the “.is”. Take the first capital letter from the name above, ignore the “.” “is”, and try to post that 3 word name here on infowars… because the censorship program will not allow this name to be posted. Most so called information boards have this censor program running, either the owner knows it or has been suckered into believing that the censor program will only block key direct threat words, but it is really blocking a mass of hidden words so true knowledge is controlled from being posted. Many people get so frustrated from taking the time to post a very important comment but when they click submit, it continually fails to post, even though said comment has no threats or hate words. The powers to be are truly filtering any and almost all open forums now. Almost all forum internet software is from the same 2 or 3 base programs and this hidden censorship program is quietly blocking any VIP information from being posted.
Wake up and try to post the above 3 word name above, try it on other places as well, you will see the truth. Youtube is also running censor programs, how many here have tried to post a simple comment to inform someone but the comment will not post.
Think, wake, research these facts. Spread this truth so people will figure out ways around these illegal programs now inundating the once free boards.
Polly Want A Cracker? Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:11 am
Dude, you’re just parroting what Lindsey Williams said on the Alex Jones show. This guy comes out of nowhere and you believe everything he says? It isn’t 24 hours later and you are preaching his word like Gospel.
Come on people. You have to be able to spot an obvious sales pitch for gold, sliver and DVDs when you hear them. Lindsey Williams comes on with predictions but he won’t reveal his source. That’s because he doesn’t have a source. Didn’t you notice how he couldn’t go into detail on the issues. That’s because he’s reading bullet points off of a list and doesn’t have a detailed knowledge of what he’s talking about.
Don’t go from being a corporate media sheeple to an Alex Jones sheeple. Think for yourself and spot the sales pitches.
There is some good information on Infowars but it is buried on hype and fear-mongering to peddle doomsday products to us.
John Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Those police officers and firefighters are cowards for not comming out with it.
jojodancer Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
John,I dont know if you have ever crawled into a burning building before, especially one you have never been in, it takes balls. So before the word coward is thrown around , consider that.
Mike Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Doing your job doesn’t take balls, especially when they are told where to go, and where NOT to go. It’s not everyone doing their own thing, they are a TEAM.
Having balls is not being afraid to speak the truth, even if it means LOSING your job.
And yeah, I’ve crawled in a couple burning buildings, because I could have been shot there, had I not.
jojodancer Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
mike, told where to go , where not to go, what kind of crap is that. Yeah it s a team oriented job but in a smoke filled building all bets are off. doing that kind of job takes balls believe me. If you have worn bunker gear ( maybe your on the job, doubt it ) and rolled up on a fully involved house you would not make that kind of statement. If you havent done it , dont comment on braveness.
nillabean Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
i agree with jojodancer…..you shouldn’t be calling any FIRST RESPONDER a coward.
Scott Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
The courage to be a ‘whistle blower’ and point out the truth has nothing to do with the courage necessary for the occupation that they have chosen.
Knowing Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Ya Ya Ya EVERYONE is a hero….Bla bla bla….. If they know something to be a fact of evidence involved in a crime and will not come forward, then they are cowards period. It don’t mater what your profession is, your being a chicken s---, if you withhold evidence cause your SCARED to loose a job. Theres no other word for it
jojodancer Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Having met alot of guys on the job with FDNY ,I would say that gag is BS. They are some of the most loyal FF on the job in this country. If they lost the brothers due to “an inside , domestic job” they would be the first to come foward. Alot of pain and sorrow went down that day and continues at this moment. If the story was proven to be of fact no one woluld loose their job and prob receive a medal for exposing it. All info that pertains to the 9/11 job was and is discussed between the brothers. Nothing stays secret. nothing .They are more pissed than all of us , because those that were lost had become family in the FDNY.The ones left behind, that didnt die that fateful day are still fighting to this day for the brothers lost. Look up some FF websites and you will see.
Calling them cowards and chicken s--- , is not warranted. YOu are not in their shoes and be thankful for that. No one nows the real deal of what goes on in anything unless ur apart of it.
Some of the most outspoken FF in this nation work for the FDNY, they would have spoken up.
That article is BS. and by the way not one of those indivuduals want to be called a hero. they just want to be left alone
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Yes, isn’t it peculiar that a very brave fireman who has the balls to enter a burning building is called a coward because he will not go public with the truth for fear of retribution? Oh the irony. Arise sleeping giant!!
IrishGal Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Precisely. They are not heros, they are pathetic cowards.
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:09 pm
What have you sacrificed to get the truth out Irishgal? It is very easy to criticize others, tell me what you have done and at what cost to get the truth out?
August Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
They ain’t giving up their pensions for nothing; the country and the truth are not worth it!
infoE Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:01 am
how profound!
is this true?
is that the hold up here?
scarrier to tell the truth than to run into a burning bldg.?
and
Not worth the risk??
William Wallace Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:10 am
And so are the secretaries and clerks at Lehman Bros., Goldman Sachs and Bear Sterns who were responsible for cataloging and securing audio records of key phone calls of all their C-level executive ‘bosses’ for some 3-5yrs. The executives recorded their most important intercorporate and client calls to protect themselves from being sued for their thieving, lying and cheating leading up to the ‘Wall Street Rapes’. From 2005 to the time they closed their doors, the C-level execs at BS and LB recorded over 150,000 key, high-liability calls. From 2006 to the present, GS has records of over 250,000 such calls – the majority of them to Bush administration and Treasury Dept. ‘peers’ AND more recenly, to peers at (now) ‘Big 9′ banks and the top EU banks in the Rothschild ’system’!
Were these records revealed, the following men would go to prison for MULTIPLE Felonies:
Rubin, Summers, Paulson, Geithner, Greenspan, Bernanke, Clinton, Prince (Citicorp), their immediate aides and scores of Bush adminisration ‘officials’. But alas ‘Silence Preserves’.
Jakc Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 9:34 am
You want to hear something disturbing? Listen to the White House transcripts between Aug 28th-Sept 17th 2005 which was during Katrina. Once you read and hear what the WH ordered against its citizens…it will make the muders of 9/11 look like childs play. Even though Katrina was nothing more than a flooding problem….everything that was said by the WH has been banned from ever listening to or reading.
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:11 pm
And where would we go to listen to such?
robertsgt40 Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 11:50 am
“Cowards for not speaking out”? I suggest those that haven’t feared for their life or their jobs and family’s well being stop and give that some honest thought. What would you do?
HAWK Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 3:17 pm
SPEAK OUT NO MATTER WHAT!!!! THAT’S WHAT I WOULD DO!!!!!
These firefighters are no different than the Bush family for their not speaking out. Absolute Mother F#@king COWARDS
Tman Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Yuppies don’t deserve sanctuary. Leave them asleep. When the barrel rolls down the hill and bursts at the bottom of the hill, they deserve to face splashes. Only this type of awakening will change America.
An European Voize Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
ken zomebodie egzblain mi hiar wot iz
‘America’?
Ai em nuw nevor heord?
dee Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
After all these years and all people hearing 911 was inside job i reckon if they found out the truth and all america herd the news nothing will change . and the people know they carnt stop the beast. who is like it ,who can stand against it.
all the people now in there thirtys would have not been born when there was a chance of stopping it 30 years ago.
just my 2 cents .
Mark The True Patriot Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
I can stop the BEAST
After all it knows it has no power on me
bye sheeple Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
I, for one, am giving up on trying to save the SHEEPLE. I have not the power to make the blind see. Most dont WANT to see the truth! They ENJOY having the MSM force feed them their “news”. And if your story dont jive with the CNN version, they refuse to believe it.
IzzE Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Whoop whoop! What up Ninja?
Run with the dead! We out number the living 10,000 to 1, hahahaha!!!
MCL!
david welch Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
its hard to imagine that people in the media are so stupid as to believe the 2 jets , 3 skyscraper rap.,,,,,,,,,,,, aren’t you glad your not that stupid,,,,,,
Jane Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 9:37 am
The US media corporations are owned and staffed by the top US military corporations. GE owns NBC, Westinghouse owns CBS for example. When a military corporation shows you something that will lead to war and increased profits into the 100’s of Billions for itself, why would you be surprised that they “believe” what they showed you on 9-11?
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11.
HAWK Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:28 pm
I flat out DON’T CARE THAT WOOLSEY INSTITUTED A GAG ORDER!!! BE AN AMERICAN AND SPEAK OUT!! These firefighters and policeman are mind controlled ikeman puppets and I have ABSOLUTELY ZERO sympathy for them. How dare they listen to some washington suit tell them to forget about the death off innocent people, of THEIR FRIENDS!
If there really was a gag order, the fault lies with the firefighters and policeman who obeyed it, not with Woolsey. He was a CIA shill, doing what shills do best: Covering up.
Are we then to expect that if the American Government orders troops to ‘RELOCATE’ then puppetish soldiers are just going to follow it. I’ll tell you what, IF THEY DO, THEY ARE THE ENEMY. There is NO excuse to be a puppet.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Nothing to see here folks, move along
Drifter/ ex mental patient Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:44 am
” PAPERS PLEASE”
October 20th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Gag order my arse!
Not going forward for fear of losing their jobs my arse!
Who comes up with this s---???
jerseygirl Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Maybe it wasn’t their jobs they were afraid of losing, but their lives. Someone thought NOTHING of MURDERING more than 3,000 INNOCENT PEOPLE! Do you really think they would make an exception for firefighters and cops???
Slipmatwax Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
3,000 innocent civilians? how about a million innocent civilians including all the Iraqi and Afghani women, men and children. What about the slaughter of Palistinians by the hand of the the CIA by aiding and abetting Israels military and spy agency
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:16 pm
It is actually 1.4 million non-combatants that have been killed in the “War of terror” in Iraq and Afganistan.
Crito Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:25 pm
It’s called the Iraqi Holocaust. Not quite as bad as the Armenian Holocaust or the Native American Holocaust but significantly more important than the Jewish genocide of WWII.
Don’t be an Iraqi Holocaust denier.
MontgomeryScott Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
it wasn’t THEIR lives, it was the lives of their families, friends, associates, pets, etc…
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:20 pm
It seems quite apparent to me that if you want to fight the New World Order then you must be prepared to lay down your life for your cause, it is what is expected when the stakes are so high. Maybe just knowing the truth will suffice.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:09 am
THREE TOP issues regarding 9/11, hmmm… I would suggest:
1. The lack of air defenses that day, particularly for the Pentagon in the light of testimonies from Sec’y Mineta (who was inside the PEOC and tells what Cheney did/did not do) and April Gallop (who was inside the Pentagon and received ZERO WARNING and was crippled). This lack of air defenses was the point of my question (above) to OMD.
2. The fall of WTC 7 at FREE FALL ACCELERATION for 2.25 seconds, which we got NIST to admit to so there is really no denying this fact. Free-fall MEANS that there was nothing in the way to impede the fall of the roof for over 100 feet. This in turn means that something moved the MASS of hundreds of thousands of tons of support columns and concrete out of the way of the falling roof. This in turn implies the use of EXPLOSIVES to move the mass out of the way so that free-fall acceleration could occur. Alternative means of moving the mass out of the way? I have not heard of ANY but would be interested in any alternatives to the use of explosives. In KNOWN explosive demolitions, the roof can fall at FREE-FALL acceleration.
3. The presence of active explosive/pyrotechnic material in the dust generated by the destruction of the WTC Towers.
August Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
One little confused Cessna student pilot & instructor even appears to be heading towards restricted airspace, the military jets are scrambled and it’s breaking news on CNN!
August Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
4 Hijacked “Civilian” planes, Pentagon knows nothing; 1st “Civilian” plane flies into Tower 1, Pentagon knows nothing; 2nd “Civilian” plane flies into Tower 2, Pentagon knows nothing; 3rd “Civilian” plane flies into Pentagon, it still has no idea what happened. and 50,000 employees saw nothing!
Jane Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 9:41 am
There was no lack of defense on 9-11 because there were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. There was nothing to shoot down. Of course there were demolitions found EVERYWHERE on 9-11 because there was no jet fuel because there were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. Of course there are massive problems with the videos and “films” of 9-11 because there were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11.
infoE Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:52 pm
i aggree
thanks for pointing that out
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:24 pm
There were actually fifteen separate air defense drills being run simultaneously that day and that is why there was no air interdiction.
sam Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 3:21 pm
The truth is out there somewhere ( we will propably never find it ). Look at kennedy, assasinated over 40 years ago and no one knows exactly who, or why it happened. Do you think you gonna find the truth about 9/11. Dream on folks
Crito Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:32 pm
WTC7 is the only issue. There’s absolutely no way to debunk the building’s obvious demolition. Don’t let them distract you with anything else.
WTC7, WTC 7, WTC-7, 7WTC
no jet fuel involved in the fire +
Barry Jennings eyewitness +
symmetrical implosion into its own footprint = INSIDE JOB.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:13 am
If you are the bread-winner, your family comes first. Anyone out there want to hire these firefighters and police officers if they came forward and told the truth? If so, you need to come forward, now.
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Why don’t you hire one of them?
October 20th, 2009 at 10:15 am
If any of these firefighters are sick terminally ill from 911, they may be willing to talk.
Slipmatwax Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
“IF” any are terminally sick? There are thosands of first responders with a myriad of ailments, many are life threatening
MontgomeryScott Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Gotta pay attention, instead of hypothesising…
Headline:
Three heroes of 9/11 die of cancer in five days
Date:
Monday, October 12th 2009, 4:44 AM
LINK:
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_....._days.html
Crito Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Nobody outside NYC gets the Daily News and none of the major networks report these stories.
It really doesn’t matter who comes forward, no one will hear about it, just like with Barry Jennings. Mention his name and most people will say “you must mean Peter Jennings died.” Yet Chris Matthews and Bill O’Reilly and Rick Sanchez honesty believe we’re living in a free society with a free press.
Seems like only delusional morons are allowed to succeed in this country. Rational, intelligent human beings get nowhere. All these nut job Oath Keepers trying to save the Republic is a good example of that, actually. What a waste of time and energy!
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:25 pm
What cave have you been living in for the past eight years?
infoE Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:53 pm
ya, good point
October 20th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Never give up, do not stay silent, keep exposing 9/11. Tell people about 9/11, have them watch videos about it and study the facts. Hear that Bush – Cheney – Rumsfeld – Rice, the truth is coming for you, hopefully soon. You will run, you will hide and the truth will smoke you out.
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Amen…and Amen
October 20th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Is only Alex Jones people monitoring this site or is it the government?
MontgomeryScott Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
It’s A government, but not OUR government…
October 20th, 2009 at 10:19 am
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.”
Time to buy some high-powered, heavy barreled rifles.
“To support and defend the constitution, against all enemies, foreign and domestic…”
I guess it’s time to start Defending and supporting. They’ve made it impossible to appeal or change anything.
“for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction..”
Well, there has been quite alot of action from their side of the table, I think our side has been building for quite a while now. Time for a reaction? Near.
John Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
We americans have become cowards like these police and firefighters. We have everything going good for us so we sit tight and shut our mouths. One day it will be too late.
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:31 pm
You sir have quoted , John F. Kennedy, the soldier’s oath and sir Issac Newton’s third law of motion.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Isn’t the current employment system just ducky? It has created a nation of sycophantic cowards, who will swallow anything in order to keep their jobs, even the murder of thousands of their fellow citizens. And here we’re talking about the supposed ‘tough guys’, the firemen and police. Freemason Winston Churchill understood this control mechanism clearly, saying that he wasn’t surprised that all men could be bought, only that they could be bought for so little. Of course, he cynically used this trait for his own advantage, counting himself among the bought (just like everybody else!), but for a higher price than the plebes.
If all the firemen who knew bombs were in the buildings had protested loudly and persistently against the government line from 9/11 on, the whole lousy plot would have been exposed and many, at least, of the perpetrators and collaborators identified. But our society has sunk to such levels of depravity that this type of ‘courage’, which really is nothing more than men and women acting as men and women should, is effectively non-existent.
It’s obvious that such a timorous population will never mount an effective challenge to the monopoly of credit run by the banksters. The habit of complying with the wishes of superiors, which is the freemasonic (anti-Christian) model for human association, is too deeply ingrained.
strum Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Right on bob
Sadly.
We are the problem.
Nothing will change as long as most of us habitually react like Pavlovian dogs to perceived authority.
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:33 pm
DEBT. I owe I owe so off to work I go ( and quietly ) DEBT- just another control mechanism.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Fear of losing their JOBS ??? ————-___________————-__________ What the hell ???——————______________—————_____________ How much does a fireman make ??? ————-____________————-_____________—————–____________ Is it enough to justify assisting the coverup of the murder of thousands of people with the involvment of the US goverment ???——————-________________——————______________——————- – Is a ” GAG ORDER ” a legally binding order or is it a threat-type situation ???————-______________—————_____________—————– It just simply does not add up.
maelstrom Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 11:37 am
no it doesnt add up.
John Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
agree.
Slipmatwax Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
If any first responder come out with the truth, they will be maligned and ostracized by the officials. History is proof of this
maelstrom Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
these guy aren’t pantywaists, they can expect that and worse. they run into burning buildings for a living. plus if there’s talk around the lunchroom, they know they aren’t alone, it’s not one man stands down the tanks of state.
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:43 pm
That is their M.O. They will not debate the facts because that would guarantee their demise, so they attack the individual and demonize them so as to take away any credibility. ADMIT NOTHING, DENY EVERYTHING, MAKE COUNTER ACCUSATIONS.
MontgomeryScott Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Like I said earlier, to some other single-dimensioned person, IT IS NOT ABOUT THEIR LIVES, it is about the lives of their LOVED ONES…
October 20th, 2009 at 11:09 am
does anybody remember the mood right after 9-11. if you said “fraud” you were likely to be lynched. i know, i called bulls--- on the whole story on 9-11-01, as soon as it became apparent there were no air defences. i said “false flag” and was almost run out of town by “open-minded” people.
jerseygirl Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
I can relate.
maelstrom Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
i was outside the country. it was something everyone gawked at and pretended it had happened to them personally, THEY WERE THERE (although very few watched it live on CNN or any other channel). when it quickly became apparent that yes it was what it looked like, a staged demolition, and yes, Bush was using it to set up a tyranny, no one understood, because THEY WERE THERE and the TERRORISTS WOULD ATTACK THEM SOON TOO.
How to win at politics: declare so-and-so is the enemy, and that anyone that says otherwise is working for the enemy WHICH IS ATTACKING US RIGHT NOW!!!!111
m Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
Yes, when I had my 9-11 was an inside job sticker on my car, I got some angry people making sure I saw their reaction, 3-4 years ago! I laughed at them. Maybe they have woken up now.
Jane Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 9:43 am
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. After 8 years not one single piece of debris has ever been verified from any of the 4 planes from 9-11. Why> Because there were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11.
sam Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 3:25 pm
they wew invisibles ufo, so invisibles debris. Got it
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Remember the three stages of truth, first it is ridiculed then it is violently opposed and then it is accepted as self evident.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:36 am
http://www.domenk.wordpress.com
Visit and support my blog-site. A NEW blog-post every week, regarding all sort of conspiracies, politics, war and so forth. My web-site is future supporter of Infowars.com, as it will soon be upgraded! I need YOUR help.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:36 am
this woolsey guy has no authority to ban the 1st amendment. so what if he issued a gag order? what was the worst he could do, have a firefighter fired?
October 20th, 2009 at 11:45 am
The Lobby at work to smear this report. Insider job was 911. People living in caves are not competent to know how to get this, 911 job.
Woosley must be waterboarded to get the fact.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Aussie and Cooper are Mossad agents.
Like them ,millions work to drive idiots in USA to make believe stuff like WMD.
The same are saying WMD is in Iran,now.
President Obama, unfortunately for them, is too shrewed to agree.
sam Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Do you really beleive that. History would tell
October 20th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Mike Rivero is posting Disimfo?
Im shocked !!!
LOL
October 20th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
This is what appears on WRH-Mike Riveros’ website:
Ex-CIA Chief James Woolsey handed down gag-order to 9/11 Firefighters
Tags: 911
“[Lieutenant Fireman and former Auxiliary Police Officer, Paul Isaac Jr.] explained to me [Lavello] that, ‘many other firemen know there were bombs in the buildings, but they’re afraid for their jobs to admit it because the ‘higher-ups’ forbid discussion of this fact.” Paul further elaborated that former CIA director Robert Woolsey, as the Fire Department’s Anti-terrorism Consultant, is sending a gag order down the ranks. ‘There were definitely bombs in those buildings,’ he told me.”
Whew!!
You know Im a believer now
Bwa ha ha
Now on a side note:
isnt RTNews an instrument of the Russian State GRU/Intell
that means Luke Rudkowski is an Agent of Russian Intelligence
How Quaint
October 20th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Now somes actively removing post?
The Horror
October 20th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
the reaction to the 9/11 event being an “inside job” or what have you would meen to most amerikans that the nanny state is actualy an evil stepmother and we all now what happens to that little redhead…..
October 20th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
It would be nice to get documentation of the gag order.
James Gragg Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
You know, your right PeterD. Just ONE copy of a written “gag order” memo would blow the entire lid off of this matter. The “questions” and “implications” that would come about from such a disclouser would completely unraval the “offical story” as well as expose those criminal elements within ourown government. End result??? Open civil war.
October 20th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Oooooops !!!
You crapped yourself
call mom
October 20th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
For the record
Youtube search :FDNY GAG order
October 20th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
To the poster of this false article…
October 20th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
They need to respond a a group. There is safety in numbers.
October 20th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
That should keep you busy for a little while f---ing traitor
October 20th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Maybe you should ask les jamieson /NSA-Urantia what Woolsey has to say about this?
Then ask him where all the donation money went?
October 20th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
What are connections between Mike Rivero and
Carto ???
boogy Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Well Mike says that there was a plane crash at the pentagram. Who’s right? Alex or Mike?
October 20th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
The only thing true about this article is
“THIS TALE”
October 20th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Horse poop. Since this story is referencing Mike Rivero and What Really Happened, let me tell you a few things about Mike Rivero.
Rivero claims the plane that hit the Pentagon was like a Christmas bulb with a BB in it. (When you throw it at a solid wall, the ornament shatters while the BB acts like a projectile.)
So… according to Rivero, a plane hit the Pentagon and shattered on impact. A water storage container in the plane shot through the fuselage and slammed into the Pentagon causing the 16 foot diameter hole. And there was plane debris all over the ground. (He also claimed there were bodies and luggage over a 6 mile area at the Shanksville crash site….but that’s another story.)
He cites that the Pentagon plane was able to accomplish it’s magical flying abilities…WHY???? Because he was able to simulate the flight path on his copy of Flight Simulator.
If you don’t believe it, go listen to Rivero’s 9/11/09 show in the archives and listen for yourself.
He also has pretty retarded opinions about Barry being born in Hawaii but I’ll leave that for another time.
If you want to identify trolls and dis-info agents and counter-intel, you should consider some of the people on Patriot radio stations that you listen to every day and not worry so much about the numb-nuts that post stupid comments here.
maelstrom Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
yeah I heard him say people who deny a plane hit the pentagon are discrediting the patriot movement, and the flight simulator comment too. I figure the guy is in hawaii, far away from it all, and doesn’t really have a clue except for being able to compare it to Pearl Harbor somewhat. He thinks Barry Soetero was born in Honolulu because some locals told him it was true, I’m pretty sure. The inside scoop and all that. His position is not too obnoxious, he’s a great radio voice imo, interesting to listen to, but you can tell he’s got simmering hatred for Israel just under the surface he’s trying to keep a lid on to be presentable. Not saying he’s right or wrong about the state of Israel, but you can hear it in his voice. Kind of doesn’t like Jews much too.
October 20th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
This is America guys! Any politician comes out and lie to your face, and you know it is a lie but you do nothing! Why? Because 80% of you just programed to be a ignorant naive dumb ass, and they know it well.
boogy Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Actually it’s 99.9%.
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Agreed
sam Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Spot on
October 20th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
I anyone wants to really know what I have to say about 911
google: “Core of Corruption” about the artist in WTC before 911
check the comments
Stay Gold
maelstrom Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
is there new news on that? the /b/-thing lol
MontgomeryScott Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
YUP…
Another ‘JEWS DID 9/11′ poser…
Mossad was involved, but, so were a WHOLE LOT OF OTHERS…
October 20th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Not talking due to fear of losing their jobs? Isn’t that the definition of cowardice? If you have information concerning the murders on 9/11 and you do not speak out: YOU ARE GUILTY! And I am ashamed that we live in the same country.
Luath Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Hey, Gary. Before you get too comfortable on that high horse of yours, let me ask you something. Do you pay taxes? Have you ever paid taxes? Do you or have you ever voted?
If the answer to either of these questions is yes, then Gary, its time to get off the pedestal and get in line with the rest of the sinners, because your tax money goes to fund all this bulls---…it ain’t free, bro that much is true. And if you have ever once voted, then by proxy, you have consented, agreed with, the incipient slavery that threatens to engulf the world.
Don’t mean to put a hole in your balloon, just trying to keep it real.
To answer your unspoken question, NO I do not pay taxes, and NO I have never voted.
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:53 pm
You got the cart before the hose on that one, Gary. Don’t be ashamed of our country but be damned ashamed of our Government.
October 20th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Hey shilly,
post real imfo please.
“We were concerned about additional collapses, stability of the hotel and the rest of facade there; plus, we still had 7 World Trade Center which was burning also. We were worried about that collapsing, and it did collapse, about 6 hours later. There was a conscious decision to let that building burn and just keep everybody clear.”
FDNY Deputy Chief Division 1
Pete Hayden
Report From Ground Zero
Dennis Smith FDNY Ret.
MontgomeryScott Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
O.K. poser:
NAME the ’shilly’ you are referencing.
The AE911 TRUTH people are fairly well able to point out that fires have NEVER caused any steel building to collapse…PERIOD.
I would tend to bias my opinion towards architects and engineers, rather than this ONE ‘Dennis Smith’, as to the CAUSE of the collapses.
How come WTC 3,4,5, and 6 didn’t collapse? They were literally PUMMELED by debris, and ‘burning buildings’, and the fires went OUT in these structures…tell us about WTC7, again, and how the ‘fire’ brought it down in such an orderly fashion…
Ah, never mind, Putz Isaac.
YOU have been ‘outed’.
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Yes Chief, we all know now that a fire, regardless of how small it is will always collapse a steel frame building. Hell, last weekend I had to scramble to get the burgers off the grill because the charcoal ( hydrocarbon fuel ) melted my steel frames grill. It never happened before 911 but it does it all the time now!!
October 20th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
It takes a truly brave individual to speak out at the expence of his fortune and honor. Something as horrible as 9-11 needs to be exposed for what it really was. It is a hard pill to swallow and one that I hope some people will give up. I am still trying to make up my mind about the whole matter, the evidence is compelling, and I am starting to believe what so many of you already accept as fact. I know there had to be more to it than what the Feds are telling us, I’m just not sure to what extent. I hope someone will have the courage to come out and question everything with boldness. No matter how hard the truth is to take, we must all be prepared to accept the harshness of reality, and have the courage to act upon it.
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:00 pm
How about you being that person you spoke of? Just read the 911 commission report and it will be easy to see that the greatest of all conspiracies is the official version. Easy.
October 20th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
I personally learned all about the details of 911 back in 1996 from a family I was in for more than 26 years. They were directly involved with those behind 911 ever since they started in the later 70’s. In 1996, 911 was really called “Something big is expected to happen soon” as they were reviewing three sites with New York being one of them.
Meet the family:
Mexico drug plane used for US ‘rendition’ flights: report Sep 4, 2008
http://afp.google.com/article/.....-xUcQEZbVg
Please note the CIA link as the family often bragged about being a CIA Asset that no one could ever prosecute them even if it involved murder. Someone ought to count how many there have been! Also, don’t miss the huge bags of cocaine and that this plane was also involved in Rendition Flights.
When the family went to start their new Drug Distribution busines they went to a well known Combine/Shadow Government law firm in Chicago. There are not so famous Barack Obama assisted the family with preparing their business in Florida. Realize that Obama is understood to own more than 130 properties in strange Soc# numbers and names. Understand that property according to the family is used as payment for services rendered. The proceeds from huge drug sales are being used to FUND Black OP’s. Some money is laundered into property using big banks with Mortgage Fraud to hide ownership. Up to now, the newspapers haven’t exposed this because they appear to be in with the drug system.
There is so much to this that you won’t ever believe it.
Marty Didier
Northbrook, IL
maelstrom Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
there is some truth in what you say.
MontgomeryScott Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
The flights that you are referring to, Marty…
Were some of these flights terminated in Mina, Arkansas, when B. Clinton was governor?
What was the name of the guy that committed ’suicide’, who was shot six times (the AK. Little Rock coroner said it was an ‘involuntary reflex’ in his trigger finger), and who had financial dealings with HILLARY?
These flights were going on for alot longer than THIS.
The SPAHN RANCH was one of the ‘termination points’. Bugliosi knows, and so does CHARLIE.
I have been aquainted with TWO pilots who have told their stories about this, FIRST-HAND.
Back in the day, a Cessna 172 could carry a WHOLE LOT of LSD…
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
You should have shot the BASTARDS when you had the chance.
October 20th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
So what
It’s not like any of you are going to do anything anyway; beyond stocking up on beans and bullets; and wait in your bunkers until the troops come to smash you…But hey ! at least you get to play with all your toys and go out in a “blaze of glory”
What do you got ? A few rifles; maybe a .50 cal
What do ‘They’ got ?
Rifles
Mortars
Tanks
Helicoptors with missles
Jets with missles
Boats with BIG missles
Sorry ‘Patriots’; but you would have No Chance, the Founding Fathers never envisioned an army with such destructive power, our Right to Bear Arms you guys keep getting all in a huff about means nothing in the modern world, any “NWO” would be laughing at your petty concerns.
I questioned the official 9/11 story also, I was almost sold on conspiracy because it looked like the collapse included the core, but if you look carefully the outer ring Did indeed fall first; the core stood in the dust cloud for a few seconds before it fell.
OBL was working with the CIA-Yes-but he was smart enough to know that when they double-crossed him that he had nothing to loose; so he did the deed.
They hate our support for Israel and He hated our “Dirty Infidel Feet” on his precious Saudi Arabian sand, He’s a radical for his country the way good ‘ole country boy marines are radical about the American flag touching the ground.
Yeah Yeah I know…Kool-Aid drinker…Flouride Head…Troll…oooohhhhh Gov. Agent…LOL
Yes; our world leaders are trying to justify their positions of power and are making the world a mess in the process–But–You guys have been duped by A.J. and his college fraternity-esque Cloak-And-Dagger drama; with its useless shouts and ceramonial non-sense.
I truely hope you come back to the real world soon. There’s alot of life waiting for you to live.
No You Are Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
1. Stone-Age Afghans seem to be f---ing your s--- up.
2. You are troll
A.J. is the master of distortion Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Well gee; I guess you put me in my place huh?
Don’t worry I’ll file your comment in order of importance; right behind ‘Pocket Lint’
HAWK Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 3:27 pm
AJ If you believe in Government lies and think the effort against the New World Order is hopeless then why do you come here?
Also, if you think the struggle against the New World Order is hopeless then are you admitting that you are just going to willingly acquiesce? If so, you are making me want to vomit.
Johnny Canuck Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Then why did Bin Laden say he was not responsible, and why was he not, and is still not on the FBI list, and how could the ring fall first, the whole shebang is connected, it would have to have been separated from the core somehow? Nothing you said makes any sense! (Music) “Another one bites the dust…….”
A.J. is a master of distortion Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:47 am
i’ve sent you 2 replies but A.J.’s minions won’t let them be posted
they make too much sense
MontgomeryScott Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Uh-oh!
I will just go back and put my head in the sand now, because what this guy says…
is BULLs---!
I really liked the ‘core still stood’ thing, until I watched the video of WTC1 again…it frigging DISINTEGRATED into DUST…
Love, also, the 3-letter reference, “OBL”…gotta lend a little credibility to the other ALPHABET org’s, like, say, CIA, FBI, DHS, MI6, and the like…THESE people are ‘what’ use these B.S. acronyms…
Sorry, ‘BUD’, I don’t WANT to live YOUR life of enslavement…
Mind as well give it up, and go plant on Oprah’s blog…
MontgomeryScott Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Sorry, I have to add another comment here…
“What do you got ? A few rifles; maybe a .50 cal”
Uh-huh.
The first .223 hollowpoint round I ever bought is sitting on my desk, looking for a target.
Oh, I think it found one.
“A.J. is the master of distortion”
G. Gordon said it best:
‘Don’t waste your ammunition on body armor. Just shoot the f---er in the face!’
Put me on your White House list, BOY!
A.J. is a master of distortion Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:36 am
You my friend are EXACTLY what i’m talking about !!!….And a funny 1 at that
I know I know…how could anyone ever “Know” if I’m a gov. agent..I mean it IS the web right.
LOL !!!!
You guys have traded 1 set of brainwashing for another !!! It’s absolutely astounding.
My typing -OBL- “proves” i’m an agent ?!?!?.
okay—-okay…how many here type “Central Intelligence Agency” when refering to them ?
hmmm ?…No one except someone who likes wasting time
Dude; I’m a “Nobody” like yourself…I too fell for A.J.’s sensationalism a year ago…You know what happened ?…I TOOK HIS ADVICE—And really started thinking for myself about the issues.
The best part…………..I’ve posted 2 comments on this page alone of pure logic / no insults / no foul languge / no threats of violence against the cops or gov……and they both got deleted…Your last comment has a Not-So-Subtle threat of violence against me; and guess what ?..You got it..it’s still up.
Now lets use our common sense here.
Q: Why does A.J. or any other site ‘need’ a comment deleted ?
A: Because it poses some sort of threat to the site
In A.J.’s case if You or I post a comment like “Let do xyz ( you know what I mean) to the cops / president / etc….Then A.J. needs to get it removed because it would pose a threat to his livelyhood….He has no problem with your comment to me about your “.223″ now does he ?..Not his problem..its mine if I wanted to pursue it.
Every comment I’ve have posted here with pure logic and good ‘ole fashion / smack yourself in the forehead / common sense / gets taken down…Why ?…because it poses a threat…If I make “too good” of sense to you then you might stop supporting A.J….So he’s got to silence it (isn’t that the old Soviet style stuff we all hate?)
sorry to break it to ya…I’m sure 99% of all people here are well meaning / red-blooded Americans..but A.J. is using that against you…”Beware of those who mix the lies with the truth”..A.J. gives you facts to gain credibility, but once he’s got your complete trust he suckers you with misrepresented nonsense; and since you now follow him with blind trust; he can do no “Wrong” in your mind.
================================================
To you A.J. or moderator:
Very interesting what you won’t let be posted here
You know what i’m talking about….you know
VERY interesting
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:04 pm
RETARD
October 20th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Once upon a time a fairy tale the 911 report
October 20th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/s/s.....24712.html
October 20th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
This story is a joke!
There’s bound to be one firefighter who either retired or quit who would have come forward if this were true!
October 20th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Many people have concluded that Woolsey was always a snake. It’s just that he was involved in so many devious situations, that he practically earned the title.
October 20th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
The story is bulls--- and the poster shill keeks removing the comments which
challenges the bulls---.
Jerry mazza doenst check the sources
hes acting like a tool
NY definition
October 20th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
The WAR ON TERROR is a misnomer, it is actually the WAR OF TERROR.
Without 911, there would be no Patriot Act, War Powers Act, Military Commissions Act and no preemptive wars against two sovereign nations who did not attack the USA.
All of the dead in Afghanistan and Iraq, including Americans, are a result of the lies of 911 provided in the governments conspiracy theory of what happened on 911.
Immediately after 911 Rumsfeld and others braced us for “the long war” which was so secret in it’s execution that we, the taxpayers, were not to be privy to.
Two years ago the FBI Agent in Charge of Counter Terrorism told a group of media reporters that the reason Osama bin Laden’s Most Wanted Poster at the FBI did not mention 911 is because “The FBI has no hard evidence that Osama bin Laden had anything to do with the events of 911.”
Bin Laden did not have the resources to place explosives in the WTC complex and those ordered not to discuss the explosions heard in the towers just add to the rest of the facts in this case of mass murder perpetrated by members of the US Government.
dick Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 9:53 am
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11.
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Here is another one for you: Truth does not fear investigation.
October 20th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Good thing some of them didn’t listen to him and told us what they heard and saw.
October 20th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Please send proof of Woolsey’s role as a consultant to the NYFD at that time.
October 20th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
“Get off your asses America! Talk to everyone about the dollar’s demise!…”
I’m sorry, do you want us to bake brownies?
WTF are you talking about?
Is that something you learned in home schooling?
moron…
MontgomeryScott Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Hi, TROLLY.
Good to see you here TROLLING.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Gee, I’m almost afraid to post this, due to the high amount of cointelpro surfers present on the site today…
‘GARY’, ‘ME’, A.J. is a …”, and some quackface named ‘Paul Issac”, are obvious, and TOO obvious. I’m surprised that ‘TROLLY’ isn’t here, as well (oops, MAYBE it IS here!)
ANYWAY, here is the link to ‘Firefighters For 9-11 Truth’.
There are 118 recorded first-hand testimonies of firefighters regarding the presence of secondary devices…
http://firefightersfor911truth.org/
NOW, you ‘DEBUNKERS’, go back to BASIC, and ask your D.I. for some MORE B.S., to post…
MontgomeryScott Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Sorry, GARY, I misread your post.
I hope that this info is helpful…
Gary Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:39 am
Which Gary? There’s two of us. I’m the one with the link.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Infowars huh?
Figures
MontgomeryScott Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Oh Isaac…
Your number is UP!
InfoWars is about number 5, in the information war, Putz Isaac.
New york Sentinel…
What a B.S. title…
Mind as well be GOLDMAN SACHS defender…
October 20th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Shalom you bitches!
Shut your goy asses up and bow down to your masters!
Or better yet, bitch, wine and moan in vain.
Either way, its the NEW WAY!
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Hey JJ JACK, you are mentioned in the Bible. You are one of those who will crawl under rocks to hide yourself from the face of HIM when HE returns. You will be at that moment face to face with your greatest fear. The kind that grips you when you realize that what you CHOSE to believe was wrong and that HE is real ( isreal…kind of funny huh ) and you realize your fate and it is too late to apologize …it’s too late…it’s too late. Now who is the bitch? Shalom…lol
October 20th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Imagine him. standing on the rubble with a bull horn. Oh my God I am dreaming!!
The greatest deception in the history of man.
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Imagine him being burned in the lake of fire, right next to the false prophet and you know who…oh and I guess he can keep the bullhorn with him…
October 20th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Hey mountdumbass,
Isnt “it” what the sailors called your mother when they got through
her or “it”?
October 20th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Got some MORE new names here, PLANTING.
JJ Jack, Muscleshoals, ‘welcome’…
MontgomeryScott Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
YES, Isaac, it is the INFOWAR, and YOU are unarmed.
Imagine YOU, Muscle, with a Bulls---horn, telling everyone to ‘remain calm, the Bin ladens did this’, while GWB flies the Bin laden faminly out of the country during the ‘ground-stop’ event following 9/11…
Imagine ‘JJ’ giving us all the ‘HOPE of CHANGE’, telling us to give up another 1.7 trillion dollars of fiat currency, promising a ‘NEW DAY’…OF DEBT!
The federal government pays out 1.2 BILLION dollars to the ‘lessors’, in a FRIGGING DAY, in INTEREST on the national debt, due to the falsified wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the 700+ military bases baround the world. WE borrow 2.1 billion dollars a MONTH from the Communist Chinese, to fund this (not to mention the loans from Japan, the UAE, and etcetera).
SOETORO wants to get all of this nation into FURTHER DEBT, by owning up to prior promises to the MULTINATIONAL PHARMECUTICAL/BANKING/DEFENSE CORPORATIONS, for their support of his candidacy (TRY BAXTER), by forcing Americans to be ‘innoculated’ against A/H1N1, at the cost to the taxpayer of over $25,00 a shot…and if you don’t want to do this, it doesn’t matter, because bthe SENATE is going to FAST-TRACK the ‘health bill’, probably attaching it to another piece of ‘must-pass’ legislation (like the ‘hate crimes/speech’ bill was attatched to the DEFENSE SPENDING BILL).
‘JJ’ and ‘MUSCLESHOALS’ are totally IRRELEVENT, in the InfoWar.
‘Tuckus Isaac’ is even WORSE…
TROLLY, are you reading this?
October 20th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Hey Mountdumbass,
Isnt “it” what the sailors and marines called your mother
when they got done with her or “it” behind the chinese restaurant?
October 20th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
mountdumbass at basic
And “tool” is what the prison buddies called you?
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Sounds like you speak from experience to me…
October 20th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Jimmy Walters, who appeared at St Marks church at a 9/11 Truth event and showed a film focusing on the sexual habits, homosexuality, beastiality and sexual perversions (in detail) of members of the Bush administration. Many of those in attendance left, appalled at the content being presented at a Les Jamieson promoted 9/11 event.
Les Jamieson
National Coordinator
NYC 9/11 Ballot Initiative / NYCCAN
BEASTIALITY : SEX WITH ANIMALS !!!
October 20th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Jimmy Walters, who appeared at St Marks church at a 9/11 Truth event and showed a film focusing on the sexual habits, homosexuality, beastiality and sexual perversions (in detail) of members of the Bush administration. Many of those in attendance left, appalled at the content being presented at a Les Jamieson promoted 9/11 event.
Les Jamieson
National Coordinator
NYC 9/11 Ballot Initiative / NYCCAN
BEASTIALITY : SEX WITH ANIMALS !!!
Mountdumbasses cup of tea
October 20th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
No mountdumbass
i squash cointel agents and fake twoofers
like you mountdumbass ball licker nut sucker
October 20th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
I hope my number is up cause if those bitchasses at the nyccan march
was the best you shilling nutsucking ass lickers was the best you got
im sure getting f---ing board
so go sell those puss threats to your mother and father
and your little wierdo groupies you hang with bloak
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:29 pm
I.Q. CHECK !! Your’s is printed on the inside of your shoes…
October 20th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Jimmy Walters, who appeared at St Marks church at a 9/11 Truth event and showed a film focusing on the sexual habits, homosexuality, beastiality and sexual perversions (in detail) of members of the Bush administration. Many of those in attendance left, appalled at the content being presented at a Les Jamieson promoted 9/11 event.
Les Jamieson
National Coordinator
NYC 9/11 Ballot Initiative / NYCCAN
BEASTIALITY : SEX WITH ANIMALS !!!
Mountasslickers cup of tea
October 20th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Luke was recruited by les
now hes working for infowars
Jimmy Walters, who appeared at St Marks church at a 9/11 Truth event and showed a film focusing on the sexual habits, homosexuality, beastiality and sexual perversions (in detail) of members of the Bush administration. Many of those in attendance left, appalled at the content being presented at a Les Jamieson promoted 9/11 event.
Les Jamieson
National Coordinator
NYC 9/11 Ballot Initiative / NYCCAN
BEASTIALITY : SEX WITH ANIMALS !!!
October 20th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
My numbers up?
Bombs Bullets Building
life was starting to get boring
See ya soon Mountdumbass nutsucker
Jimmy Walters, who appeared at St Marks church at a 9/11 Truth event and showed a film focusing on the sexual habits, homosexuality, beastiality and sexual perversions (in detail) of members of the Bush administration. Many of those in attendance left, appalled at the content being presented at a Les Jamieson promoted 9/11 event.
Les Jamieson
National Coordinator
NYC 9/11 Ballot Initiative / NYCCAN
BEASTIALITY : SEX WITH ANIMALS !!!
October 20th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Mountdumbass wrong again.
Google: Paul Isaac FDNY Aux Lt
Jimmy Walters, who appeared at St Marks church at a 9/11 Truth event and showed a film focusing on the sexual habits, homosexuality, beastiality and sexual perversions (in detail) of members of the Bush administration. Many of those in attendance left, appalled at the content being presented at a Les Jamieson promoted 9/11 event.
Les Jamieson
National Coordinator
NYC 9/11 Ballot Initiative / NYCCAN
BEASTIALITY : SEX WITH ANIMALS !!!
October 20th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Google: “Pothink interviews First Responder Paul Isaac Jr”
you scared?
see the part where it says “paul is going to court for 911″?
Guess how I got it to Criminal Court?
I scared a man with a gun
He had the gun
So show your weapon upyour ass where you like it
and pull the trigger cause thats the result youll get
pushing that bitchass scare tactic over here.
Marines watch this house
Matter of fact everybody watched me jerky
I love to party
October 20th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
I see that TROLLY, et.al., is beginning to feel somewhat discouraged at a direct and logical challenge, and has failed to rebut FACTS, as USUAL.
The FACTS STAND, and I hope that the FACTS will speak, as per this article that I am commenting on.
Animal Isaac seems to be hung up on beastiality, and his avatar, ‘MUSCLE’, seems to be a homosexual, bred by the experimental mind-control op of the 60’s and seventies.
GO AWAY, you wierd trolls, and let the clearer and more sentient people speak!
Bad boys, Watchagonna do?
Whatchagonna do when we’re COMING FOR YOU?
October 20th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
For the record Mountdumbass
Racism and religious intolerance are just distractions
It about the brave & cowards
“Next to war everything else is boring ass bulls---”
Hope to see ya soon MD
MontgomeryScott Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
FOR THE RECORD, PUTZ ISAAC:
I appreciate the reference to my ‘Doctoral Degree’.
Obviously, you have given up on the hope of winning this INFOWAR, as per your responses.
YOUR VIELED THREAT TO MY LIFE DOES NOT GO UNRECORDED.
I prefer to recall a better quote:
“Rommel. you magificent BASTARD! I read your BOOK!”
I shall not be in Hell, when you enter it (IF you enter it).
I’m sorry to dissapoint you.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
NYsentinel Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Infowars huh?
Figures
October 20th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
MontgomeryScott Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Gee, I’m almost afraid to post this, due to the high amount of cointelpro surfers present on the site today…
‘GARY’, ‘ME’, A.J. is a …”, and some quackface named ‘Paul Issac”, are obvious, and TOO obvious. I’m surprised that ‘TROLLY’ isn’t here, as well (oops, MAYBE it IS here!)
ANYWAY, here is the link to ‘Firefighters For 9-11 Truth’.
There are 118 recorded first-hand testimonies of firefighters regarding the presence of secondary devices…
http://firefightersfor911truth.org/
NOW, you ‘DEBUNKERS’, go back to BASIC, and ask your D.I. for some MORE B.S., to post…
October 20th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Mountdumbass CumAss with a Horsecock
in his ass
is that enough Homo for you cumass?
October 20th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Hey mountcumass
The people youre shilling for showed the animal flik stupid
cant read either Cummie Bear?
October 20th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
MountCumieass sucknutz
Bwa ha ha ha
October 20th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Hey if “muscle” is the avator im not aware of it.
I dont control that fantasy. Maybe check with the website
and see how “Homo” they are Mountcummyass
October 20th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Mountbumbass sucknutzzzz
The Prison Tool Strikes Again
October 20th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
I preffer General Pattons
“There wont be any yellowbellies crying battle fatique disgracing these heroes”
Then he bitch slapped em.
Now thats the way you run a battlegroup
October 20th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
“When Im done here
Im getting promoted to hell”
October 20th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
Boohoo Im Telling my mommie
“Your vile threats wont go unrecorded”
Hey Mountdumbass Sucknutz
Ive been raising hell long before 911
so make sure you come prepared when
my “numbers up” Sucknutzzzz
October 20th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Hey Mountdumbass
I think I hear ya momma calling
October 20th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
Nimphowhores
and
Mountdumbass cummyass
What douchbag pair
October 21st, 2009 at 1:49 am
Any silent witness to crime is a coward. Everyone that continues to buy, sell and trade a lie is a coward and a moron. I have no respect for any silent first responder, I consider them equal with the criminals that killed the first responders. I live in D.C. and I was at the Pentagon on 911. It was and continues to be an inside job. I have experienced the mindset of persons that are not directly involved and people that work for the ones that are. There is no winning against this prophetic battle against the ”principalities of the air”, the whore and the beast are too strong and the silence of witnesses defines this fact. Pity is the best I can do personally at this point, as I offer the Truth to the few able ears that are not marked with the seal of stupidity.
tom Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. Have you acknowledged that truth yet?
October 21st, 2009 at 4:56 am
all the coward fire fighters and police better step forward!you shall be ready to die for the truth,if you know something you better speak out,your a sad piece of crap if you do not step forward !
October 21st, 2009 at 5:33 am
the nwo are nothing in the real world!
October 21st, 2009 at 7:05 am
When were the buildings wired for “demolition”. I suggest it happened when they were constructed. I can’t find many takers on my theory, but I wouldn’t construct a building that large without a plan in place for removing it.
minimaus Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:50 pm
i remember when they built wtc. it wasn’t a consideration in urban planning then. they were built to last, and when the time came they would be deconstructed the way they were constructed, floor by floor. you have to look for an “asbestos abatement plan” at some point not too long before 9/11 to get the thermate cutting charges in place. the thermate and the actual explosive charges (probably not thermate) would not take a year to rig, as popular mexhanix fans would have it. a crack team could rig both tours in say a week or two, working overtime. what was it, 200 floors in total?
October 21st, 2009 at 7:20 am
worsely scum un CONSTITUTION un AMERICAN trash who is this asshole to do that go to China to live where you can exercise your COMMINUISM you trash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 21st, 2009 at 7:22 am
I say, ENCOURAGE WHISTLE BLOWERS! Rather than ridicule and judge, since you don’t know what’s going on in their world. Whistleblowers unite and watch the unraveling! As for people who clutter this board with filth, nonsense, and disinfo…you are so obvious! People, lets try and ignore trolls, except to alert readers as to their agenda. Arguing with them is pointless, the argument just gets more filthy and more off topic (i.e. Paul Isaac (NYsentinel) Says, who is a disgusting disinfo agent).
October 21st, 2009 at 7:57 am
Cointel pro got you tide around their finger
look how the fools jump and dance to the bulls---
Bet you didnt that Rockefeller controls this site?
October 21st, 2009 at 7:59 am
Lets find out who killed Dan Wallace?
Why Luke slept with Sabrina so soon after?
Where all the donation money went?
dick Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 9:49 am
Dan Wallace came forward with serious doubts that there were commercial planes that crashed on 911. Within weeks this 23 year old was dead of “possible heart disease”….case closed.
Dan Wallace was right. There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11 and he knew this. He knew the world had been lied to and wanted to do something about it. The problem is when you run up against a hired troll and agent like Luke.
October 21st, 2009 at 8:01 am
Tex needs to learn english
Thorazine extra-sweet 4 U
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Hi Paul, try this: 10cc of succinal colate, 10cc of phenyl phalene and 30cc of sodium penethal and let us know how that works out for you…
October 21st, 2009 at 8:04 am
Hex TEX IC,
i find that people who make baseless speculations are discusting
I worthless POS believerz in false propaganda are discusting
Its still america so believe in fairy tales if want to
Ect ect ect
October 21st, 2009 at 8:08 am
Hey Tex
Wheres the Disinfo that youre tslking about?
You seeing things that arent there?
All I see is a bunch writen crap by your cohorts
and for the record
i fought on 911 at wtc
not like sucknutzz and his merry bunch of clusterf---s
So make sure what the f--- youre talking about before opening
your ass to speak on me
minimaus Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:52 pm
“i fought on 911 at wtc”
either you’re just lying or you’re a terrorist. “fought”? get a grip.
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Well the fumes at ground zero got to you badly….JACKASS.
October 21st, 2009 at 9:43 am
all americans can be called cowards because you are letting your country be raped in front of your eyes.
you have no excuse either put it right or shove your flag up your asses.
look in the mirror and say to yourself im free and i live in a free country i am proud of myself.
i wonder if you will answer truthfully.
because you own a few trinkets dosenot make you free .
years ago slave masters paid for your food and accomodation now you the slaves pay for your own food and housing.
i urge each and everyone of you to wake up do something or die at the nwo hands.
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:40 pm
O.K. you go first.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Too bad all the astronauts that “went to the moon” never stepped forward to tell us why all motion pictures of “the event” were shot in slo-motion…..but then they could have lost their jobs too. Work for the government–get screwed by the government…..lies perpetuate lies. BTW, thats classified top secret so don’t tell anyone who doesn’t have a “need to know”. Hows that for a double edged sword?!
October 21st, 2009 at 2:16 pm
That’s beautiful, John.
October 21st, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Oooops
Time to censor truth
October 21st, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Thats right!!
Went to jail for violating GAG ORDER !!!
I sent it to the FDNY Firemarshalls then turned myself in.
Then went to court for 38 counts of OGA. Charges got dropped
on account of sensative imformation.
A Whole Stack
Youtube Search “FDNY GAG ORDER”
Yeah Fought
STILL FIGHTING !!!!
October 21st, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Oh Wait
Didnt see that in the Randy Lavello article?
The Horror
October 21st, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Skolnic,
My advise is maybe you should watch who you praise
as there are people within your “twoof” movement
who are persons of interest in connection to 911- Firemans son.
Tread carefully
October 21st, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Dan Wallace Murdered
October 21st, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Hey Twoofy
Its time to censor
October 21st, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Your a TOOL Jerry
havent figured it out yet?
Let me be the first to tell you
being your such an honest journalist and all
October 21st, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Space monkeys and farm animals looking for love
1-800-EAT-s--- Ext TooL
October 21st, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Hey dips--- (moderator)
if you were an honest “news” site you wouldnt
censor post
Takes a real punkbitch traitor to hide truth
Alot like the punk bitches who ran after the nyc (con) march
October 21st, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Goog to see that jerry promotes censorship
Hes a real patriot
October 21st, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Seems Jerry needs help checking his sources
October 21st, 2009 at 3:46 pm
“Thorn’s short story, “The Blow-up Doll”, for instance, tells the story of a young boy’s first wet dream. In another story that appears in the book, “Latex Dreams,” by Stellar, a young woman graphically recounts her first abortion. “Skeletons,” a short story by Jeremy Fleming, relates the tale of a young man turned on by the sound of coughing.
Jerrys’ cup of tea ?
October 21st, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Les Jamieson didnt have a problem with this neither
October 21st, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Hey Jerry
You claim to be an Honest Journalist
Guess who wrote this recently?
“I know Jerry Mazza, who is a good guy,
so this puzzles me considerably”
Bwa ha ha ha
October 21st, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Web
Options
Fact not Fiction by Mohammed A. Hegazi: NEW YORK CITY CAN’T
Google: “Les Jamieson nyccan” Good Ol Les Showed a movie on beastiality in a church (st marks) ON HOLY GROUND !!! AT A 911 EVENT ! ..
hegazi.blogspot.com/2009/08/new… – Options
Luke Rudkowski arrested for “impersonating the press” and …
Mar 29, 2009 .. Les Jamieson National Coordinator NYC 9/11 Ballot Initiative / NYCCAN. BEASTIALITY : SEX WITH ANIMALS ! ..
truthmovement.com/ – Options
New York – Runnin’ Scared – Former Senator Gravel Backs NYC 9/11 …
Jun 18, 2008 .. Coordinator Les Jamieson said that the key would be ….. homosexuality, beastiality and sexual perversions (in ..
blogs.villagevoice.com/runninsc… – Options
October 21st, 2009 at 4:19 pm
publish.nyc.indymedia.org | Tackling 9/11 Questions at the Ballot Box!
Les Jamieson has seized the NY 911 Truth bank account of approximately $6000 intended to fund weekly street …. film focusing on the sexual habits, homosexuality, beastiality and sexual perversions (IN DETAIL ! ..
nyc.indymedia.org/../106602.html – Options
October 21st, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Rockefeller Sidesteps WeAreChange Question on CFR, Bilderbergers
les jamieson are accused of embezzling thousands of dollars from donations meant for. SICK AND DYING 911 RESPONDERS ! ..
http://www.infowars.com/rockefeller-si... – Options
October 21st, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Glory to the Peace Makers
Now lets get back to war
October 21st, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Watch Dedicated Online Free at DocumentaryWire.com
Because of the fact that Wallace had previously witnessed the multiple harassments of me by people like Les Jamieson and Frank ..
http://www.documentarywire.com/dan
October 21st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
You leave my son alone! OK, he may be a pansy, but I was never a good role model! It’s not his fault!
So what if he hooked up with Sabrina two weeks after his best friend and her boyfriend, Dan Wallace, turned into a sack of coal in bed with her! And so what if she broke up with him recently because he still lives in my basement!
He’s still my pansy boy!
And so what if he’s stealing money! So what the IRS might have more than a few questions for him! So what if the NY Attorney General’s office is likely to go after him, just like they’re now going after the Fealgood Foundation!
He’s still my pansy boy! You people leave him alone! And yes, my name is
Zbigniew Rudkowski | 05.25.09 – 4:28 pm | #
October 21st, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Hey Jerry
You check that source
LOLOLOLO
October 21st, 2009 at 4:43 pm
http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/ …DefendantSearch
search: Lukasz Rudkowski
Court New York Criminal Court
Case # 2009NY025417
Defendant Rudkowski, Lukasz
Former WAC job | Homepage | 05.26.09 – 1:22 am | #
DefendantName:Rudkowski, Lukasz
Birth Year:1986
NYSID:5608516J
Status:TWOOFER
Attorney InformationDefense Attorney
Name:
Type:Legal Aid
Court Date:March 29, 2009
Court Part:APAR3
LEGAL AID, LMAO, HE’S f---ED!
Next AppearanceDate:May 26, 2009
Court:New York Criminal Court
SWEET!
911truth are liars | Homepage | 05.26.09 – 1:30 am | #
October 21st, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Emergency personell at 911 are considered heroes, and they were. However, an even greater hero is one who stands up against tyranny at the risk of losing it all, (job, reputation, whatever). Stand up for your fallen co-workers en-masse NYPD, FDNY…your adherence to the gag, gags us all!
October 21st, 2009 at 4:48 pm
He just copped a plea for the G20 leaving his comrads to face trial
He said “it wasnt worth traveling 8 hours for parking ticket”
He said “He was tortured at State Prison”
Hes A “Journalist” for Russia Today News which
is a Russian Government / GRU Propaganda Instrument
and hes “Inciting Riots” on American Ground
You Investigating this Jerry?
Probally not
October 21st, 2009 at 4:57 pm
DefendantName:Rudkowski, Lukasz
Birth Year:1986
NYSID:5608516J
Status: gay twoofer
Charge Detail Disposition/Sentence
PL 140.10 0A
**TOP CHARGE** B Misdemeanor, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Arraignment charge
Description Crim Trespass 3rd:enclsd Prop
Next AppearanceDate:July 27, 2009
Court:New York Criminal Court
911truth are liars | Homepage | 05.27.09 – 2:08 am | #
October 21st, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Very well put vic
Its the “tools” who dishonor us
and hold us back
October 21st, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Source JREF:
Luke is an idiot…
First off he has the audacity to say in a bullhorn in the middle of a public street that he has no freedom of speech, while openly exercising that right.
Then he goes on to call the cops Jack Booted Thugs (an obvious group-think line from the likes of Alex Jones)
And in the next breath saying, we’re all just people, we want to promote peace?
Gimme a friggin’ break!!! This guy seems to think that verbally harassing cops (many of which are likely not Caucasian and don’t take comparisons to Nazi’s very lightly) and blocking traffic is somehow not disruptive, disrespectful, confrontational or irrational?
Granted this sort of tactic was used during the sixties and was somewhat successful, but you have to have a point, an objective. These people just want to ramble on and on and do nothing about it.
Ironic that the cops herd these people around like “sheep”, eh?
Perhaps these people would prefer the 1960’s methods of dispersing crowds, with fire hoses and Billy clubs.
Funny how these people run like cowards when it comes to the actual confrontation. This is not how true activism is supposed to work. You don’t obstruct police, call them thugs, compare them to Nazi’s and still have the right to be surprised when they start spraying you down and cuffing you up. If you’re going to put yourself on the line like that, you have no right to complain. Twoofers remind me of little kids who bully a chained up dog and run like hell once the dog is off his chain.
These people need to get their priorities straight and find some better leaders.
October 21st, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Source JREF:
You know, these days, law enforcement are so limited, and so trained, that people in a potential riot situation are given EVERY BENEFIT OF DOUBT and then some, before they are arrested. What does that mean? It means you have to be an in your face grade A jerk, and a danger to the public before you will ever get arrested in a situation like this. Luke is already known to be a person who is willing to provoke law enforcement, as well as someone who is willing to steal from his own organization and people. He staged this, and he’s just angry that it took so much effort to actually be arrested. What a loser. Good for you truthers, you follow him, what a wonderful “leader” he is.
You will not trust a single person whom your movement labels a “debunker”, yet you will follow a liar like Luke even after he has lied to you, and taken your money. You are frigging pathetic.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:51 pm
I’m a volunteer firefighter and I say that this whole thing about the firefighters is a total lie and a made up story.
Firefighters are NOT controlled demolition people or crews.
Firefighters can’t make a judgement call for a CD.
I’m sorry but all you Truthers got sucked into this pathetic lie by Alex Jones.
Don’t say that I’m “lying” or a “shill” or a “Gov. Agent” because you don’t know who I am.
Some of you people are pathetic, and that’s just sad!
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Mr Clark, It is clear from your statement that you have missunderstood something. The firemen at ground zero have beeb gagged about what they saw and heard, no one is saying that NYFD positioned or set off anything-that is crazy. A gag order was issued to prevent firemen from talking about what they saw that fateful day. Why would anyone want a gag order in place anyway? What is the harm in discussing what happened? Common sense would tell you that the TRUTH would not fear investigation. One must conclude or suspect that the order was issued to hide or conceal something or it would not be ordered in the first place. Just ask WHY? Use common sense.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:48 pm
Slamming the bible on us ain’t gona get you anywhere Truther.
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:21 am
They initially come off as “Journalist”
then turn your words to fit the agenda.
Hey Vollie,
google: Dan Wallace Murder Murder Murder
Dan was the son of FDNY Lt Robert Wallace E205 Bklyn
these assholes are behind his mysterious death.
Ive been posting it all over the net so they cant hide from it
pass the wire Brother
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:24 am
Subject: Dan Wallace
Dan Wallace was the son of Lt. Robert Wallace, a NYC firefighter who perished in the 911 attacks.
A few weeks after this turbulent meeting Dan Wallace died (or was killed) and “We Are Change” initiated when Luke and Les Jamieson, the leader of 9/11 “Truth” parted ways.”
Suijuris InfoWarrior: 9/11 A Legal Holiday?
Jul 9, 2008 .. Sabrina A. Rivera Treasurer – www(dot)wearechange(org)
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:25 am
“Dan was the son of FDNY Lt Robert Wallace E205 Bklyn
these assholes are behind his mysterious death.”
Yeah, only 1 problem Sherlock: NO EVIDENCE!
I’ve known about Danny since 2006 while being online. No need to pass any word around.
Sorry that Danny’s dead, but still doesn’t call for anything.
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:29 am
The post will be censored in 15 seconds Jim
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:32 am
And I don’t care if Alex Jones comes here and looks. He knows he’s full of it, I know he’s full of it. He’s literally mocking the FDNY firefighters and putting words in their mouths.
Alex Jones is not a firefighter.
He’s not a Fire Instructor.
He’s not a Fire Investigator.
He doesn’t even understand what a firefighters job is.
He doesn’t understand Fire Science.
He doesn’t know anything about firefighters.
He makes up stuff and you people buy into his BS.
Remember, Alex Jones likes to talk on the radio, bad mouth people, takes quotes out of context, yell in peoples faces, push people out of the way and literally screams “9/11 was an Inside Job” without any evidence to prove it.
Adolf Hitler used the radio to spread propaganda, Alex Jones is the same way.
Enough said!
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:43 am
I just posted the evidence but the asshole moderator keeps removing it
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:45 am
Looks like murder for profit
the promote “dying first responder” gimmick
but guess where the money went?
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:45 am
If the moderator wants to take my comments to Alex Jones, go ahead.
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:58 am
Vollie
google: Dan Wallace
If youre real then you are obligated to bring justice
not only for our fallen Brothers but for the kin
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:02 am
Vollie
where?
Water or Truck?
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:05 am
Why do you feel the suspicious death of Firefighters son
shouldnt be further investigated for foulplay?
I been around this job for nearly 20 years
and never heard that before
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:10 am
I feel sorry for Dan Wallace, I really do, but he’s not the focus on my agenda.
Sorry, can not do!
My agenda is this piece of garbage that Alex Jones put up about the firefighters.
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:17 am
But if the focus is Alex Jones disrespect to
“The Brothers” and he has someone who is clearly
a “Person of Interest” in possible connection to
a deceased FDNY MOS son then how is it possible
that you wouldnt also want a criminal investigation
into the matter?
What Department are you with?
What is your position and rank?
Which Group Roster?
How much time on?
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:33 am
Criminal matter, investigation? WTF are you talking about?
Danny probably died due to natural causes. I mean WTF? We’re gonna hold a court hearing against Mother Nature for Danny’s death? Jesus H. Christ!
I’m not obligated to say which Fire Dept. I’m with. I’m not going ot harm my own dept. for my own views. Sorry!
And no, I’m not withholding anything, if you ask it.
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:40 am
This is assinine at the very least.
We will run into a burning building for a complete stranger, but we wouldn’t speak out against the people that killed 343 of our closest family?? Come on now. That is ******* stupid.
People in the TM seem to forget, or cannot comprehend the bond that firefighters share. There is a reason we call each other brothers. And the reason we use brothers is because that is the strongest word in the English language to describe the bond that we have with each other. Its much stronger than that.
We put our lives in each others hands every single time we go into a burning building. Every single time. I don’t second guess them, ever.
I was at GZ, helped surch for any survivors. Found the parts of people, lying around, not where they should be. Like, attached to the rest of the body. I was a NYC firefighter on 9/11, and cannot even begin to tell you idiots how wrong you are.
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:48 am
And then they say that the FDNY firemen were “gag ordered” or some lame ****.
Alex Jones and the whole Truth Movement (TM) doesn’t understand what brotherhood means.
Matthew and I are in a brotherhood of firefighters, that brotherhood is WORLDWIDE!
Firemen unite against a common foe. We fight what you Truthers fear! FIRE!
So don’t give us that we’re “lying” or “making up” ****, we’re not.
Alex Jones is the one making lies and stuff up. He’s a real propaganda pervert!
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:54 am
I just read the first 10 or so posts on here, and I have one thing to say.
I f---ing DARE any one of you little keyboard gangstas who are calling me and my Brothers of FDNY cowards, to come down to 10 house in NYC, and tell that to their face. Not one would do it. I guarantee that every single person walking down that street that lives there would be there to beat you into the ground.
You jackholes on this BS site are the f---ing cowards.
Piss off.
moronforyourmind Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:55 am
Awesome post.
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:56 am
haha well this just show to some people that gag orders are given and if they did this with the fire fighters and the police then how easy would it be with cia and anyone else with intelligence knowledge of the real 911 that we have seen for all these years. so many things that day that are just not logical and just down right silly. turn around what you are told by government and the main stream media and you are closer to the truth. “two hijacked planes” turn that around to two remote controlled planes, “buildings fell because of fire” turn that around to buildings fell because of all the explosive set in the building and the basement , “plane crashed in Pennsylvania” to shot down by military jet , “pentagon hit by plane” turn that around pentagon was hit by a missile, “attacked by alqida from a cave” turn that around to attacked by someone inside the USA but they have nothing to do with alqida”. “building 7 falls because of fire” turn that around to falls because they have explosives in there ready to explode it that afternoon. they tell us “norad where carrying out drills that morning” turn that around to norad carried out a mission that morning. the only thing i really believe on that whole day we where told was the truth was that George W Bush had no Idea what was going on and thats why he sat there reading the goat book he did not need to know and those that carried this out would not have the cheerleader know what is happening with the plays of the game, that was all done by the quarterback.
Wil Clark (Vo. Firefighter) Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:11 am
“what you are told by government and the main stream media”
1: The Government & Media doesn’t control the Fire Departments. Communities control them!
“two remote controlled planes”
2: You want remote control planes to mess with? Contact Hobbytown U.S.A.!
“buildings fell because of all the explosive set in the building and the basement”
3: LMFAO! Bombs in the buildings, yeah right you twit! No primacords nor coper residue on the columns. You’ve been feed some serious BS from Alex!
“shot down by military jet”
4: Johnstown Airport located 20 miles away doesn’t have military jets. Only Apache Helicopters! I should know I live in Johnstown. You’re a fool and a dumb***!
“pentagon was hit by a missile”
5: No photographic/physical evidence of a “missile”. Damn you’re not bright!
“attacked by someone inside the USA but they have nothing to do with alqida”
6: Ever heard of the 1993 WTC Bombing, U.S. Embassy Bombings, U.S.S. Cole Bombing?Apparently not!
“falls because they have explosives in there ready to explode it that afternoon”
7: Go back to #3! Damn you’re dumb!
“norad carried out a mission that morning”
8: You got evidence or are you just making that up like Alex Jones?
You know, this is all politcal stuff you Truthers are spewing out. Bush is gone idiot! You gonna attack Obama the same way you idiots attacked Bush?
You Truthers need to learn something about the real world. Go to school, read a book. Dumb***!
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:20 pm
You should take your own advice and read a book or two. Synthetic Terror ( Webster Griffin Tarpley ) is a good one because everything is documented and it is laid out in prosecutorial evidentury style and it is damning to say the least. It is extremely well written and demonstrares a very high intellect and it will answer your particular issues noted above.
I have some questions for you.
1. Do you have any evidence that, a: The towers were not demolished? b: That what the media says is the truth? c: The official verzion is correct? d: That NORAD was not running fifteen separate air defence drills that morning? e: That elements within the Federal government had nothing to do with 911?
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:26 am
Sorry! I was jumping the gun for a minute!
But in all aspects that’s what Truthers will be saying and those are my rebuttals!
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:27 am
This page just makes me mad as hell!
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:31 pm
It is good that it makes you mad. Let your anger motivate you to look into the events of that fateful day. Don’t let the term, “Conspiracy theorist” make you feel uncomfortable because it is a smear term designed to make you loyal to the government and believe me if you think JFK was killed by more than a lone gunman then you are a conspircy theorist according to the government. See how it works? You must decide for yourself. There are a lot of crackpots out there that will say anything so you must filter out the crap and use good material to study.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:05 am
Flavius, I totally agree with you, neither would I.
Look up our website on some surprising proof about Flight 175 published in the Spanish mainstream media.
Don’t go hard on fire-fighters, there are a lot of people who have been disposed of in the course of their duty, John O’Neill for one. And yes, it is families who are being threatened. I certainly wouldn’t put my five´year old daughter or 80 year old mother at risk for a decision to be brave for the nation. The forces out there are too strong for individual bravery, it is up to the nation as a whole to realise a military-backed fascist coup has taken place, many years ago I might add, and it is for the entire community to awaken and respond to this.
Good luck to everyone.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:25 am
salialioli,
Wow, you just don’t f---ing get it do you. We will run INTO a burning building to save a COMPLETE stranger, but won’t shout from the rooftops that we know who killed our brothers.
You’re an idiot. Threaten my family, and I guaranteee that every single judge, cop, politician, lawyer, prosecutor, and lunchlady knows what the hell is going on.
You started off good. Then, you basically called us a coward in the end. Go to your local station aand tell the firefighters that. Coward.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:42 am
And whats funny about the whole matter is the “story”
was about me.
I did the interview with randy lavello and
there was a “GAG ORDER”
YouTube Search “FDNY GAG”. Go talk to the FDNY EMS Guy
who tells the reporter “Sorry Cant Talk GAG Order” on 911
dan wallaces GF(Girlfriend)saw he took multible pills and she
thought nothing about hos respiratory distress till she cound him blue
then went around telling people fifferent accounts of what happened sbd how he
got the pills then slept with luke rudkowski (who works for AJ)
to become founder/treasurer of wearexhange while using the gimmick
of “dying 911 first responders” as a ruse to profit off 911 first responders.
My statements were completely taken out of context regarding woolsey being the source
woolseys son was rescued from the south tower on 911.
The part regarding “they scared for their jobs” was definately taken ouf of context to make it sexxy
The history of this job makes silly as f--- to believe that people charging onto burning buildings
and other emergencies would be scared to face down and confront crimminals is rediculous to say the least.
The statement was theyre family guys who are not going to go agsinst the grain to confront the issue
wasnt it enough proof that they rushed ground zero after gouliani pulled them from the pit on orders from Brechtel?
And Oh other than this 10House pretty much how I feel about this issue on 911
ask john from the truck.
So the is nothing more than to smear my name with obvious disimfo to cause me problems.
Especially after what I did at the NYCCAN speech at Cityhall
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:50 am
Now watch the last post get removed
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:56 am
The writer RL should be located for a statement
and any can see loosechange extra-video and check village voice
to see what really happened at the 2005 annniversary
Historychannels -911 conspiracies shows what happened at
Ground Zero at the anniversary (2005)
When you disrespect the dead
its bad kharma all day
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:00 am
Google ” JREF NLarosa”
thats Dan Uncle making the statements regarding
posible foulplay
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:06 am
Youtube search:
“911stealth FDNY Under Gag Order Jobs at Stake Mossad Zionists”
watch FDNY-EMS state “cant talk GAG ORDER”
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:08 am
NYsentinel,
Why did I not receive my gag order??
sherman skolnic Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:28 pm
I am so sorry Matthew, here is your official gag order…so shut up!! i hope you have a sense of humour…lol
Matthew Reply:
October 24th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
I do. Thank you.
Too bad your paper is on the effectivness of gaggin someone with a towel. I think you picked the wrong paper by mistake.
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:20 am
Oh the date of this meeting
Sept 14 2001 (Friday)
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:21 am
I know I got mine after I got 38 counts of OGA for trying to
get the message out.
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:29 am
I remember back in 98-99 when I (Ran) out of TenHouse
I used to operate a the Radio. If you were then youd probally
remember me as the Aux who did 24s and continued to tell the
members to “get scanners The City radio plan was a joke”
that was before 911
Maybe you’d remember better from the deutch bank fire
I was the Mutt Holding Old Glory when you guys came out to
see me and the guy came running down the block yelling
“we got a fire!!!”
we ended up losing two more members that day
because of the same shady s--- like 911
Did you guys get the house computars back?
Remember me?
Probally not,
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:33 am
“The Port Authority closed the 1990s with a stream of press releases announcing the rental of unimaginable huges quantities of Trade Center office space to “Cutting Edge” firms like Sun Microsystems. Yet around the complex A MILLION SQAURE FEET STOOD EMPTY, and the building originaly intended as great catalizing chambers of world trade were by degrees, transforming into a kind of DISJUNTIVE REAL ESTATE LAYER-CAKE. One story above the carpeted, wood- paneled offices of a Japanese securities firm, A GROUP OF ARTIST FILLED BARE WALL WITH BOLDLY COLLORED IMAGES AND HUNG SCULPURES FROM THE EXPOSED CEILING GIRDERS OF VAST ECHOING CAVERNS. As part of the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council program that TURN SOME OF THE VACANT SPACE IN THE TOWER OVER TO ARTIST RENT FREE, 40.000 SQUARE FEET OF CONCRETE FLOOR lay painted and strewn with the Raw materials of creative urge that has never been easily reconciled with the imperatives of a bottom line. Under such conditions, one could begin to read in the Trade Center symptoms of an internal fragmentation quite at odds with the image of a thriving, Class-A lower Manhattan Office Complex.”Pages 191-192 Divided We Stand Eric Darton (1999)
“The Downtown Lower Manhattan Association and Department of City Planning, in their joint 1993 Plan for Lower Manhattan, proposed RADICALLY CULLING THE HERD OF OLDER BUILDINGS. The suggestion of even broader plazas, in place of OBSOLETE SKYSCRAPPERS, put a positive spin on an OFF-THE RECORD OBSERVATION BY THE DLMA spokesman that in order to stabilize property values, SEVERAL DOZEN DOWNTOWN OFFICE BUILDINGS WOULD SIMPLY HAVE TO BE RAZED.”Page 206 Divided We Stand Eric Darton(1999)
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:34 am
The asshole flake moderator keeps removing
post
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:38 am
“I wonered if the Vice President was in charge. Dick Cheney was President Fords Chief of Staff when I first served in the Justice Department; I knew him and had a great confidence in him, so I was relieved to hear a women on the telephone say, Mr Mayor, the Vice President will be on the line.” “My intention was to speak to the Vice president and then immediately relkay what he told me to the people of New York through the press, who were being assembled outside be memebers of Sunnys’ staff. Within a second or two, the line went dead. For the moment, re-establishing that phone link tookup all my attention. So it took some time for me to realize why the phone line was disconnected.” “A few minutes after ten o’clock, we felt and heard a thunderous roar but did not know what had actually occured. Some thought the sound was a new attack, and THE WAY THE GROUND SHOOK (emf-Mine) made it feel like that. I was still on the telephone, hoping to be reconnected, when Joe Esposito yelled, “Its comming Down-everybody down!” “Since I was still in a back cubicle trying to speak to the Vice President, I didn’t hit the deck. In fact, when I heard the words “Tower” and “Down”, I imagined that the radio tower atop the World Trade center had fallen off.” Page 11Rudolph W. GulianiLEADERSHIP with Ken Kurson Miramax books 2002
How did Rudy know to set-up at 75 Barclay?
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:55 am
Again this “SECRET MEETING” Friday 14 Sept 2001
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:57 am
1.Tom Kenny speak about “this disaster” reffering to WTC
2. Rudy talks about “Secret Meeting” about friday 14 Sept 2001
Two Seperate Events
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:02 am
By removing post the moderator is aiding and abetting the enemy.
What a douchebag
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:05 am
” On August 7, 2001 I was driving through New jersey on my way to camapin apperances on behalph of the republican candideate for New Jersey Governor.” I was explaining my ideas about preparation to Ken Kurson and I specifically cited recent cases of false reports of Anthrax and the awareness that it gave us of how to handle that emergency should it actually occure. A little over a month later, antrax sent through the postal system terrified the entire country. New York City might have been brought to a stand still had our team not practice for precisely that contingency” Pages 63 and 64 Leadership (Rudolph W Giuliani)
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:06 am
Takes a real coward to call out a former CIA Chief with a bulls--- story
then turn around like a sissy coward skel and cover up peoples comments
” On August 7, 2001 I was driving through New jersey on my way to camapin apperances on behalph of the republican candideate for New Jersey Governor.” I was explaining my ideas about preparation to Ken Kurson and I specifically cited recent cases of false reports of Anthrax and the awareness that it gave us of how to handle that emergency should it actually occure. A little over a month later, antrax sent through the postal system terrified the entire country. New York City might have been brought to a stand still had our team not practice for precisely that contingency” Pages 63 and 64 Leadership (Rudolph W Giuliani)
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:18 am
Whats the Infowars cant stand the fire?
You dont have a clue about the blow back is going to look
like.
This s--- will spread like a wildfire and yes I’ll probally be sanctioned
but theres nothing thats going to happen to me that hasnt been done already
since before 911 by TPTB
so get ready for a surprise party in yoir honor Bitch
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:28 am
Sentinel
March 11, 2009 at 12:15 pm
The Following testimony is from Dennis Smith (FDNY Ret). Author of Report from Engine Company 82. Honorary Chief FDNY (Lots of time on) This is a desciption of WTC7 from the about the time after the second (T2) Collapse. He is now on Vessey and West st pulling 6 and Half inch hose from FireBoat Harvey. He describes the following: “I learn then that the Chief has been clearing the area in anticipation of the collapse of the forty-seven stories of WTC7. Suddenly, several hundred firefighters are milling about, and when the order is given we all are moved back another few hundred feet from the corner of vessey and West. We jus mingle there, talking quietly, I meet a police captain, and ask if he has seen joe dunne, the first deputy Commisioner. The captain shakes his head and say, “It’s not Good, what I hear.” Page 175 Report From Ground Zero (Dennis Smith) ” All of a sudden the forty seven story building before us begions to shake. “Its Comming down,” someone yells, and everyone gets poised to run in the oposite direction, I head to the with a small group into the bagelshop at the uptown side of the street, but I am watching the building as it begins to crumble, It falls almost as if in slow motion, sinking straight down, and then leans to the south, leaving most of its rubble against the north wall of building 6.” “I wait for the dark cloud of concrte dust to come hurtling towards us, but it rolls in the other direction, towards the northeast” Page 176 Reorpt from Ground Zero (Dennis Smith)
Withes 7 WTC down, the army of construction workers, police officersw, EMTs, and firefighters begins to work. People who have never met begin working side by side as if they have practiced for months.Page 177 Report from Ground Zero (Dennis Smith)
“KeySpan uses mechanized scissor-like devices to cut up the steel skin of the tanks, rather than torches, to avoid vaporizing the lead paint. In addition, KeySpan also laid down a special fabric cover to shield nearby buildings and vacuumed streets after the implosion”
The Queens Gazette
The Tanks Came Tumbling Down
July 18, 2001
Reply
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:29 am
Clarification:
After Tower 1 Collapsed
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:31 am
I proved you are full of s---
by removing the post you proved youre full of s---
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:37 am
Now everyone knows youre full of s---, jerky
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:49 am
Talking about Dan Wallace, WTC 7, and egos within the 911 truth movement is a rabbit hole. Its sole design is to keep you away from ever physically verifying a single piece of debris from ANY of the 4 planes from 9-11. Its been 8 years and not ONE single piece of debris from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations on 9-11 has ever been verified in any way by anyone.
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Really no plane parts?
Thats a rabbit hole there, tom
there were plane part scattered all over before
the buildings came down.
Seats bodies ect ect ect
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:10 pm
“And I could see plane parts, luggage– it was just a mess there”
Captain Tim Pearson
NYPD, PSA (Police Service Area) 2
Report From Ground Zero
(Dennis Smith)
* Another Bulls--- Fairy Tale Debunked
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Hey Moderator
Doesnt make you look very truthie covering up the truth
then again being this story is bulls--- it prettu much speaks
for itself
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:31 pm
There is no hope whatsoever for anybody who still believes the official fairytale. 8 years have passed and two thirds of all americans still believe that Islamic extremists were responsible. They refuse to believe that the powers that be could be as wicked as they are. Many of these same people, I mean sheeple, will be lining up to get their H1N1 shots.
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:19 pm
More from onlinejournal.com »
TPF: Ex-CIA Chief James Woolsey handed down gag-order to 9/11 …
1 post – Last post: 2 days ago
Jerry Mazza. Infowars. October 20, 2009 .. CRIME & CORRUPTION, DISINFO, SPIN & LIES, EDITORIAL, ENTERTAINMENT ..
How entertaining it is to shill for Alex Jones?
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:20 pm
More from onlinejournal.com »
TPF: Ex-CIA Chief James Woolsey handed down gag-order to 9/11 …
1 post – Last post: 2 days ago
Jerry Mazza. Infowars. October 20, 2009 .. CRIME & CORRUPTION, DISINFO, SPIN & LIES, EDITORIAL, ENTERTAINMENT ..
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:20 pm
#7
Yesterday, 01:23 PM
logiceludesyou
Forum Regular
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Middletown
Posts: 2,798
He thinks info wars is a credible source of news. I imagine he is sitting at the computer wearing a tinfoil hat and his windows are painted black. He may be “real” but he isn’t some one that you can take seriously.
__________________
Global warming…Science for those that don’t like math or facts.
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Bwa ha ha ha
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:36 pm
“As can be seen in the image below, GNN has also received a grant from the Ford Foundation. Next issue, we will explore the controversy of GNN in more detail, and in the issue after that, everything will be wrapped up with my own thoughts and possibly with the thoughts of others pertaining to the alternative media in general.”
REALLY ?!!!
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:36 pm
As can be seen in the image below, GNN has also received a grant from the Ford Foundation. Next issue, we will explore the controversy of GNN in more detail, and in the issue after that, everything will be wrapped up with my own thoughts and possibly with the thoughts of others pertaining to the alternative media in general.
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
“After the tenth anniversary of the Oklahoma City Bombing, in which an event was set up for those who were investigating the attack itself, the question was asked, “Where was Alex Jones?” From there, they accused him of censorship, an accusation not entirely new anyway. I did an initial investigation into their claims, and used The Wayback Machine in an attempt to see if an article from Randy Lavello had indeed been altered…”
ALTERED you say?
The Horror
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
After the tenth anniversary of the Oklahoma City Bombing, in which an event was set up for those who were investigating the attack itself, the question was asked, “Where was Alex Jones?” From there, they accused him of censorship, an accusation not entirely new anyway. I did an initial investigation into their claims, and used The Wayback Machine in an attempt to see if an article from Randy Lavello had indeed been altered…
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Ooooooooops
Guess you didnt check that source either, jerry
To much entertainment, huh?
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Me too
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Message Boards
News Message Boards Top Stories Ex CIA Chief GAG ORDER 9/11
Messages: Sorting:
<>
Topic has been deleted
News Message Boards Top Stories Ex CIA Chief GAG ORDER 9/11
Copyright © 2009 Yahoo! Pty Limited. All rights reserved.
Advertise with Us – Privacy Policy – Terms of Service – Help
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
“TOPIC HAS BEEN DELETED”
Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
I guess your credibilty is going in
the garbage now jerry jerky
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Hey Truthie
Read this…
Message Boards
News Message Boards Top Stories Ex CIA Chief GAG ORDER 9/11
Messages: Sorting:
<>
Topic has been deleted
News Message Boards Top Stories Ex CIA Chief GAG ORDER 9/11
Copyright © 2009 Yahoo! Pty Limited. All rights reserved.
Advertise with Us – Privacy Policy – Terms of Service – Help
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:32 pm
“TOPIC HAS BEEN DELETED”
The Horror…
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:35 pm
SPOOKYWEATHER
Oct 18, 2009 .. when a writer named Randy Lavello published a story at Prison .. is a conversation between Lavello and Lieutenant Fireman and ….. DON’T BE SUCKERED BY DISINFORMATION: 9 Core Problems with ..
spookyweather.blogspot.com/ – Options
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Hey Moderator
“What comes around goes around”
Deleted Comments Deleted Fairytales
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:35 pm
mssg 2 spookie
you cant kill me
im already dead
“Ghost Hunting Season”
Force Security
Pro-Vos NY
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:38 pm
RED & BLUE CRUSH U
Never Forget 911 or else
Dan Wallace(RIP) son of
FDNY Lt Robert Wallace (911-RIP)
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Trumbull, CT
Posts: 32
Re: Ex-CIA Chief James Woolsey handed down gag-order to 9/11 Firefighters
Quote:
Originally Posted by holzbt
This is the first I’ve heard about a gag order. Must have missed that on the department orders. Anybody who thinks it’s possible to gag 10,000 plus members of the FDNY is delusional.
holzbt,
Sounds like your FDNY.
If so, thanks for commenting about the Gag Order.
1). I can’t believe it ever happened, but I couldn’t confirm that and
2). No way in hell did I think FDNY would submit to one even if someone was silly enough to try.
Bill.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Oh yeah
This is going to be fun
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Whats great about war and chess is strategy
1. Everyone sees the article GETS REALLY ANGRY
2. Everyone googles
3. Everyones sees the s--- Ive posted about you
and wonders why jerk offs would promote someone
who outed them as criminals exploiting 911 for profit
and PERSONS OF INTEREST in the suspicious death of
Dan Wallace son of FDNY Lt Robert Wallace E205
(A Real Brother) and believe you wouldnt want to stick around
after the family (FDNY) sees what youre all about
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:40 pm
This is going to be f---ing great !!!!
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:12 pm
To AJ is a master of Distortion, you need to realize that not everyone who disbelieves the government’s conspiracy theory came to that discovery because of Alex Jones. The 9/11 truth movement is NOT the Alex Jones movement. So please go back into your bubble and watch FOX and CNN, for they have all the answers you are looking for. You fool. And an arrogant one at that.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Also, why is this Sentinel person hijacking the thread?
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Cause Im Paul Isaac Jr.
This article is False and moderator (punk bitch) keeps removing post
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Paul Isaac (NYsentinel) Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
“BINGO, PROBLEM!! The petition says that they shall provide their OWN financing, but in page 12, it states “proposing that the charter of NYC be ammended to create and FUND a NYC independant comission with supoena power.”
(Source JREF)
Hmmm…
Looks like FRAUD and PURGERY on legal document
Oh well, maybe now we’ll learn where all that “dying first responder” and
“please donate” money went
Paul Isaac (NYsentinel) Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
80,000 nyc residents signed a petition that was misleading
them to think that it was about “air quality” which by law is
misrepresentation , deception and fraud.
I was at the march and there wasnt anymore than 60 people
then afterwards I tried to get a word with celebrity superstar
manny badillo but the princes didnt feel he needed to answer question
about all the money and where it went.
Then some guys wanted to play tough guys so I said “lets dance”
one asswipe with a camcorder kept running away from me
like a little bitch figures this would be lukes friend.
I bet luke is talking about how he was mistreated in jail?
Never mind this asshole slept with dan wallaces girlfriend before
the body was even cold
This isnt a truth movement
its a controlled demolition of one
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:45 am
I know a firefighter who was called to the South Tower before it collapsed. The Lobby had been blown apart with explosives before the building was detonated. He has not been ordered by anyone to not speak about it. He rescued a women from inside the lobby and what the news media is not telling you is how the bank in the lobby and the Atm machines were all looted before the building collapsed. He knows that there were explosives and he tells people that but no one believes him. So these criminals including the largest criminal of all Larry Silverstein are somehow getting away with all of this? People need to get Silverstein to confess to his crimes
Wil Clark (Vol. Firefighter) Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:15 am
“The Lobby had been blown apart with explosives before the building was detonated.”, “He rescued a women from inside the lobby”
Only 1 problem with that, they had a French film crew with them inside the lobbies and there wasn’t any “explosives” in there. If he was inside the lobby and there was an “explosive” that firefighter would be dead.
That’s a lie!
Matthew Reply:
October 24th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
He’s lying, that is why nobody listens to him. I also saw the lobby. There were no xplosives going off ever in that lobby.
Period.
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:49 am
I went to NYC shortly after 911 and enjoyed The Bue Oyster Cult with many of the Firefighters and I can tell you that they spoke very freely and they can hold their liquor. They will tell of explossions and the rest but know one listens and they are not given the opportunity or the platform to address the truth.
Many have since died or are very sick and the Government does nothing to provide aid or comfort to the famlies. They will tell you the truth, have told the truth, been cheated, lied to and disguarded by the media. This is a big machine and just like everything you see on youtube about proof, no one has the power to do anything. The Nations of the world know and still nothing will be done because the purse strings play the puppets. How stupid do you have to be to watch WTC7 come down and believe fire did it. Keep the Firefighters out of it, they continue to suffer and die from 911 and they would be the first in line to go after those who planted the bombs.
Matthew Reply:
October 24th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Wait, you just said “How stupid do you have to be to watch WTC7 come down and believe fire did it.” Well, there are many firefighters, including myself, that saw 7WTC, and KNEW it would come down. Then, in you VERY NEXT SENTENCE, you say “Leave the firefighters out of it.”
So, are you calling me and my Brothers’ stupid?? Or arae you saying that we are liars and murderers?? Which is it??
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:18 am
The WTCs’ weren’t brought down by “explosives”.
1) No primacord found
2) No copper residue on the steel columns
Both not found by Controlled Demolition teams in the debris.
Sorry, but Alex Jones has been spoon feeding that bulls--- since 2006.
Time to realize that and accept that what he claims is all lies.
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:15 am
1st!
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:30 am
If any of you Truthers had any sense you’d produce evidence of what Alex Jones claims.
But like lemmings that fall of a cliff, you all would follow him over the edge.
Instead of just talking about it, produce the evidence please & stop accusing the FDNY or any firefighters for “covering-up” or being “gagged”.
I’m a volunteer firefighter & I’m not afraid to too you Truthers like it is.
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:44 am
Youtube search:
“WTC Rare Video of First Plane Attack”
In this video from NYChannel 5 theres a scene with reporter dick oliver
right before flight 11 impact.
Aprox 3 seconds before impact theres an electical disturbance picked up by the camera
and what sounds like a “Thud” sound and you can still hear the plane in flight right after
then the impact.
Youtube Search:
“WTC 2nd attack Gary Pollard CamPlan”
In this video watch the 2 second mark for sound of detonation before
south tower impact.
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:45 am
Wil,
The poster was describing the south tower lobbey
Wil Clark (Vol. Firefighter) Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:49 am
Paul,
It doesn’t matter, both Towers lobbies weren’t “explosively demolished”.
Both Towers had firefighters in them getting people out.
What part don’t you people understand?
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:33 am
I was an NYPD aux-PO before 911 too.
On 27 July 2000 someone threatend to blow up a city bus with a bomb
I said “Eeeeereh” wrong answer Bitch” then proceeded to violate his rights
NYPD style.
Then I threw myself on the bomb for the people
then I threw myself under the bus for the team.
Stop Terror
Get a Funny Jacket
Paul Isaac Jr
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:38 am
Again
THERE ARE SOME OF US WHO WILLINGLY TRADE OUR LIVES IN
TO BRING THE VICTIMS BACK SO THEIR FAMILIES BACK SO THEIR
FAMILIES CAN STOP CRYING AND SMILE AGAIN
You Dig?!
Paul Isaac Jr
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:40 am
Once again for Wil
There are some of US who would willingly trade our lives to
bring back the victims so their families can stop crying and smile
again
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:42 am
Now go youtube the two videos and learn how the real world works
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:59 am
Oh jerkys removing post again
What about “This story is bulls---”
dont you fruitcake understand?
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Wil,
1. Dont associate me with these treasonist criminals exploiting 911.
2. I was Chambers and Broadway when the north tower fell and I know
WTF I heard heard and so did dveryone else that was standing there.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Will-
Regarding Suspicious death of Dan Wallace He PROBALLY died from natural causes”
Regarding Passing the wire regarding Dan Wallace “No Can Do” “Its not my AGENDA”
Regarding input on 911 ” It doesnt matter”
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:31 pm
“As Im starting to pick up her personal effects, we heard this rumbling.
BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM. Its comming, this roaring sound. The lights flicker,
but as I look outside to see whats going on, I start to see what unitially looks like a storm, but
it was the dust cloud starting to form from way up on top of the building.
All of a sudden, I could see the facade of the south tower falling against battery park city.
And then all hell broke loose and BOOM BOOM BOOM. Everything came crashing In.
A tremendous wind comes Through”
Captain Tim Pearson
NYPD PSA (Police Service Area) 2
*Who was operating in the north tower.
Matthew Reply:
October 24th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
And never has a CD been described by a rumble noise. However, a building collapse, as I have witnessed 3 times in NYC, most certainly could be described as a rumble.
Stop taking people’s comments out of context.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
The last account was From Report From Ground Zero
(Dennis Smith) Ret FDNY
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
“As Im starting to pick up her personal effects, we heard this rumbling. BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM. Its coming, this roaring sound. The lights flicker, but as I look outside to see whats going on, I start to see what unitially looks like a storm, but it was the dust cloud starting to form from way up on top of the building. All of a sudden, I could see the facade of the south tower falling against battery park city. And then all hell broke loose and BOOM BOOM BOOM. Everything came crashing In. A tremendous wind comes Through”
Captain Tim Pearson
NYPD PSA (Police Service Area) 2
Page 136
Report From Ground Zero
(Dennis Smith)
October 23rd, 2009 at 2:01 pm
INVICTUS NYC !!!
October 23rd, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Hey Jerry,
Guess what happened I clicked into this site…
Ex-CIA Chief James Woolsey handed down gag-order to 9/11 …
32 posts – 13 authors – Last post: 5 hours ago
“[Lieutenant Fireman and former Auxiliary Police Officer, Paul Isaac Jr.] explained to me [Lavello] that, ‘many other firemen know ..
http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/showth... – Options
The WoodenBoat Forum
vBulletin Message
User Name Remember Me?
Password
Register FAQ Calendar Today’s Posts Search
vBulletin Message
Invalid Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator
Forum Jump
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:19 PM.
Contact Us – WoodenBoat Subscriptions – Archive – Privacy Statement – Top
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 – 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright WoodenBoat Publications, 2009
October 23rd, 2009 at 2:20 pm
vBulletin Message
Invalid Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator
Uh Oh !!!
Sucks to you Jerry
October 24th, 2009 at 12:07 am
Oh s---
I just got banned from letsroll
ya know why?
You have been banned for the following reason:
“bad attitude”
Date the ban will be lifted: 10-31-2009, 00:00
But they kept your article up in your honor Jerry
Bwa ha ha ha ha ha
October 24th, 2009 at 12:21 am
What happened to letsroll911.org?
17 posts – 3 authors – Last post: Feb 14, 2006
Registrant Email:letsroll@letsroll911.org .. It was rumored that the site was used as a disinfo site and to make ..
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/../pg1 – Options
October 24th, 2009 at 12:23 am
Loose Change Forum
I was banned from Lets Roll for calling “disinfo” repeatedly on a group .. as he gets a link on Dylans website and mine is pulled? ..
algoxy.com/psych/whatis9-11_loo… – Options
9-11 Disinformation and internet forums.
Internet Forums and Disinfo · DISINFO Site map. .. Let’s Roll banned me for not coming up with more proof of the concrete core ..
algoxy.com/psych/whatis9-11disi… – Options
Debunking the Debunkers – Appendage on Flight 175 « 9/11 Anomalies
Jun 17, 2007 .. The Letsroll site told an elaborate story about how this .. was challenged harshly as a disinformation website. ..
911anomalies.wordpress.com/2007… – Options
sci.econ: Re: Let’s be smarter than they are for a change.
Jun 24, 2004 .. “letsroll” — classic false-opposition disinformation-hyping site, excludes the real hot evidence — he will not ..
sci.tech-archive.net/../1345.html – Options
“Pod People” hijack the 9/11 truth movement
Aug 1, 2004 .. The Letsroll site told an elaborate story about how this ….. was challenged harshly as a disinformation website. ..
http://www.oilempire.us/pod.html – Options
truthaction.org :: View topic – New 911 film Ripple Effect
That movie is disinfo trash just like In Plane Site. …. The Letsroll site told an elaborate story about how this photo was ..
October 24th, 2009 at 12:24 am
http://video.google.com/ videopla…62020229593250#
‘It said it felt like I was stepping over people, but I never saw them. You know, that’s the way they [the 'Loose Change' makers] portrayed me and I didn’t appreciate that so I told them to pull my interview. Do I think that our government would do something like that to its people? No. I honestly don’t believe that’ (Barry Jennings’ comments – 47 minutes 36-47:51).
The Horror !!!!!
October 24th, 2009 at 2:23 am
vBulletin Message
You have been banned for the following reason:
bad attitude
Date the ban will be lifted: 10-31-2009, 00:00
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 00:53.
Top
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 – 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
October 24th, 2009 at 2:24 am
Letsroll Forum / Phil Jayhan
October 24th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Funny E-mail listing:
Home Page
Sherman H. Skolnick
Email: skolnick@ameritech.net
October 24th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Phil Jayhan
Site Admin
Admin
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Middle Earth -
Posts: 18,228
Blog Entries: 13
Looks like Will opened a can of whoopass. Seriously though, this is an example of a person being their own worst enemy. This thread is making my head hurt.
Cheers-
Phil
NYsentinel
BANNED
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 39
Reply
Ban me for what?
Proving youre gullible?
Confronting disinfo that you posted on this thread?
If anyone should be banned its you for trying to
mislead patriot with disinfo garbage you took at
face value without vetting it.
Then again maybe thats what your agenda was and
you got caught
you know what they do to traitors on the battlefield
caught selling out?
__________________
October 24th, 2009 at 10:56 am
#46
Yesterday, 23:57
NYsentinel
BANNED
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 39
Reply
I figure if your going to post bulls--- “tales” about me
I as an American Patriot have an obligation to bury your bulls---
with the truth, right?
And its not hijacking when its fortifying the truth, numbnutz
October 24th, 2009 at 10:58 am
07
NYsentinel
BANNED
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 39
Reply
Funny you didnt vent out on the guy who posted disinfo
but will vent on the guy defending himself from it
Did youbnot say before I got here “Paul Isaac is a fruitcake”?
Then I come here without hostility to defend myself and thats your additude?
You are f---ing warped
October 24th, 2009 at 10:59 am
#52
Today, 00:11
NYsentinel
BANNED
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 39
Reply
Then shouldnt you vetting yourself first?
* #2 * *
10-21-2009, 18:19
JFK
Admin
*
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,475
Blog Entries: 1
Sorry, but IMO Paul Isaac Jr. is a fruitcake.
__________________
“Before……. the end of my term…… I have something to tell you.”
“The very word ’secrecy’ is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings.”
* #3 * *
10-21-2009, 18:27
trueblue
Moderator
*
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: United States
Posts: 3,785
Blog Entries: 3
Quote:
Sorry, but IMO Paul Isaac Jr. is a fruitcake.
Agreed!
__________________
A LIE BELIEVED BY EVERYBODY IS NOT THE TRUTH
October 24th, 2009 at 11:02 am
#13
Yesterday, 18:11
NYsentinel
BANNED
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 39
Reply
The article is BS on many levels so if Im telling you that I didnt say “The woolsey was the source” and the statement about “The firemen were scared for their jobs” and choose to still believe it afterwards, what ever floats your boat.
343 FDNY Firemen just gave their lives for complete strangers on the most horrific day in us history in America.
Do you think they were scared?
Or is this more disinfo woth a sexxed up version of the truth?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Dear NYsentinel,
Phil Jayhan has requested that you become friends. You can approve or deny this request by visiting:
http://letsrollforums.com/profile.php?do=buddylist
All the best,
Let’s Roll Forums
October 24th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Letters: Would you still sign the 9/11 Truth petition? – Salon
And not Fire Lieutenant Paul Isaac Jr., who was slandered with fake quotes and chopped fake videos by scum ilk like Victor Thorn, ..
letters.salon.com/../index18.html – Options
October 24th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Researcher Vincent Sammartino, also in attendance at the WTC ‘open grave site’ on September 11, 2005, wrote the following on APFN, “I just got back from Ground Zero. People know the truth! Half of the police and firemen were coming up to us and telling us that they know 9/11 was an inside job. They were told not to talk about it. But they were supporting what we were doing! I had tears in my eyes.”
Really?
Lets see the video tape…
October 24th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Today, 08:58 AM
Tylerdurden
Watching the Perimeter
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Gray Me.
Posts: 13,207
Re: Ex-CIA Chief James Woolsey handed down gag-order to 9/11 Firefighters
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Fisher
Normally I wouldn’t get involved in this kind of nonsense but this trash offends me.
No need to read further. If one cannot grasp known facts because they run counter to ones beliefs then any point in going further is useless. Talk about cults. The authority lovers cannot question anything least themselves.
__________________
We are the children of concrete and steel
This is the place where the truth is concealed
This is the time when the lie is revealed
Everything is possible, but nothing is real
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1D6nJtMa60
And on a side note: Uh Oh !!!
October 24th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Ok Now that we got out the way this for humor…
WEDNESDAY, MAY 10, 2006
My New Hero–Paul Isaac, Jr.
An auxiliary fireman in New York City, he gets into Avery and company’s faces in Loose Change Extra Footage.
The Loose Change producers went to Ground Zero on September 11, 2005, to “pay their respects”. Of course, what they really wanted to do was stir up trouble, and Paul Isaac, Jr., recognized that immediately.
The video begins with the producers entering the subway. We see them taping up flyers for Loose Change.
They then hop a train and take it towards the WTC. At each stop they hop off and quickly tape up another flyer or two, then dash back onto the subway. No kidding, we see this eight times. Maybe that explains why Dylan Avery was turned down for Purchase College’s film program?
Paul Isaac gets his starring role from about 6:48 to about 12:00.
He points out that the Loose Change guys are just asking for trouble. “Who feels that this behavior is inappropriate for a public memorial, for 3000 people, who were killed?”
Note as well, that one of Avery’s buddies is caught in an outright lie at about 8:52, claiming “I’m not with these people.” This claim is undercut by the fact that he’s been with Avery since they entered the subway. Here’s a picture of their argument (9:53):
The liar (who bears a remarkable resemblance to Jason Bermas) is at the left, Avery is next to him. Not sure who the young woman is. Isaac is at the right in uniform. We get another lie from the liar at 10:11, when he claims, “I don’t know one person here. Not one person.” Of course at 11:54 the liar’s telling people that the movie is free, and to please come.
Mr Isaac, we salute you!
Update: Check out this nutty post supposedly on Isaac.
On Monday, October 24, 2005 at 9:23 PM EST, Victor and I received a call on our home phone. The caller was male, did not identify himself, and proceeded to say the following:
“This message is for Victor Thorn and Lisa Guliani. We met at Ground Zero on 9-11 and you ran a story on it the next day on your website. Well, we have a videotape that will bury your story, so I think you’d better retract that article very quickly or you will face a libel suit. The videotape we have refutes the version of what is portrayed on your website. God bless you both…see you next year at Ground Zero.”
The caller then hung up the phone. After our movie was over, we checked the answering machine and listened to the call. The man’s tone of voice was very sarcastic and menacing.
Yeah, especially that part about God bless you both, right?
posted by Pat @ 3:24 PM 6 comments Comment (0) | Trackback
6 Comments:
At 10 May, 2006 18:03, fo0hzy said…
One wonders why they would even include this in the extras… doesn’t make sense.
Oh. Wait, it makes perfect sense… if the movie makes no sense in the first place.
/irony is teh bomb
At 11 May, 2006 06:03, JoanBasil said…
Stands to reason that for every minute in the finished film, they shot 10 minutes at least, so its in there for a reason. My take is that they just wanted to show their own experience promoting the movie. In contrast to Loose Change, this film with the young men riding the subway and putting up posters, etc. has no point of view at all. I thought the most interesting part was where they talk to the young mother who lost her husband on 9/11.
At 03 June, 2006 19:48, Ethan said…
Paul Isaac Jr belives that 9/11 is a conspiracy. You shot yourself in the foot. Go Loose Change!
At 15 November, 2006 13:28, Anonymous said…
Either you are outright misleading people about Isaac, or you haven’t done your homework on Mr. Isaac’s 9/11 views. Unfortunately, seeing that you have left out 80% of the article you have quoted, it seems you are intentionally misleading people about Mr. Isaac in hopes of somehow bruising Loose Change’s credibility.
Paul Isaac believes the government orchestrated the events of 9/11 and the the towers collapsed due to demolition charges.
At 15 November, 2006 13:29, Anonymous said…
Either you are outright misleading people about Isaac, or you haven’t done your homework on Mr. Isaac’s 9/11 views. Unfortunately, seeing that you have left out 80% of the article you have quoted, it seems you are intentionally misleading people about Mr. Isaac in hopes of somehow bruising Loose Change’s credibility.
Paul Isaac believes the government orchestrated the events of 9/11 and the the towers collapsed due to demolition charges.
At 09 May, 2007 01:27, Ozzy bin Oswald said…
What useless pathetic collaborators you neocon lapdogs are. Any thinking person can discern the military hoax that is 911.
Enjoy your treason while you can flunkies.
Post a Comment
<< Home
October 24th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Hey Jerry,
this is from Above Top Secret:
reply posted on 24-10-2009 @ 11:31 AM by beaverg
So just making it all clear… Nobody can find any evidence that in 2001 James Woolsey was serving as an anti-terror consultant for the NYFD other than an article written by Alex Jones… Right? Absolutely no evidence that James Woolsey was in a position to issue a gag order much less have the authority to do so.
In other words I’m thinking that the article is absolute and complete BS.
copyright & usage
October 24th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
reply to post by beaverg
Also, correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t James Woolsey a private citizen in 2001 and therefore had no authority to issue a gag order in the first place?
Paul further elaborated that former CIA director Robert Woolsey, as the Fire Department’s Anti-terrorism Consultant, is sending a gag order down the ranks. ‘There were definitely bombs in those buildings,’ he told me.
http://www.infowars.com...
I’m wondering whether you’ve read this: wtc.nist.gov…
Yes, I have. Do you have a question that you would like to address me?
October 24th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Uh Oh !!!
Jerry arent real journalist supposed the “VET”
the sources?
October 24th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Paul,
Are you off your meds???
October 24th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
“stop calling me matt”
“Nope my Obama medicare plan keeps me supplied very well matt.
By the Ive never changed my story and Ive hated the these mother f---ets sonce 2005
anniversary when the came to ground zero and disrespected the families while they were still
reading the names.
I know, you were still basking in the Hero Glow snd loved all that attentiion
heres a wake up call matt
the only heroes that day were the one God called home
we were just f---ing lucky, ok
I see you on the JREF board banging away at the keyboard an all.
But do the research and stop the browbeating cause before not one person
tool it serious that this was coming.
Didnt Goulianis’ pick for FD/Comm get a vote of incompetance right before 911?
Didnt motoralo sell the city f---ed up radios? Gouliani didnt do s--- but pat himself on
the back for doing more at the pit than the recovery workers
so go ask your friends on the skeptic board if the God gouliani is of his meds,matt
Matthew Reply:
October 26th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
My name is not Matt. Not sure where you got that from Bill.
Anyway, I never basked in the hero glow, as you put it. In fact, I have never claimed to be a hero, ever. I have always said that the 343 that died that day were the real heroes, I was just doing my job.
All that attention?? I moved out of NYC to a small town. How is that hero glory?? Right. Gotcha.
The pick from Guiliani did get a vote of incompetance. Correct. Does this mean that 9/11 was an inside job?? No.
Motorolla did sell the ciy radios, but THEY weren’t messed up, the radios could not comunicate with the other radios, as they were of different frequencies, or something like that. I don’t remember. Aall I know, is that they sucked.
Guiliani pat himself on the back?? WTF are you talking about??
I hate Guiliani, just in case you couldn’t figure it out. I think he was a jackass. Glad he is gone. New one, not much better.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Lenbrazil
Scholar
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: BKAC
Posts: 103
Amazing! Not only is Mazza so clueless he starts off calling Isaac a “Lieutenant Fireman” but then a few paragraphs below quotes Syzmansky calling him “an auxiliary fireman” he apparently missed (or feigned ignorance) that “NYSentinel” has long since denied he ever said these things. Isaac left quite a few comments indicating he rejects all this. Claims he never said it pretty obviously he changed his mind.
Some of his details changed he claimed to have been a block away when WTC1 came down but in later versions was by City Hall. And a couple of years after the attacks despite have supposedly meticulously researched them was still saying stuff like:
“There are a couple of interesting facts, along with numerous other inconsistencies, which have led me to seriously question how the government claims the tower’s fell by jet fuel alone.”
October 24th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
That was meant to be “Hey Matt”
October 24th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
I know that monday morning your ass is getting sued.
Theres a few laywers looking at this and there may be a criminal
case to go along with this as well
so enjoy it while it last douchbag
October 24th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
This asshole just removed evidence proving gouliani new the towers were going to fall
that implies guilt of obstruction of justice and evidence tampering
October 25th, 2009 at 12:30 am
This what pussies do when theyre toooooo punked out
to do it in person.
Remember when ran like little girls after the nyccan march?
This is the best you can come up with?
Boy youre slow
October 25th, 2009 at 12:33 am
Fraud deception evidence tampering obstruction of justice
libling and slander for malicious purposes
insurection during wartime
war profiteering
Please Donate…
October 25th, 2009 at 11:09 am
I noticed the JREF Firemen talking about broken glass.
Why did the First floor lobbey on 911 resemble the 93 bombing
If there could be a bomb in the Basement in 93 why couldnt there
be bombs in the building on 911?
Boom Boom Boom Boom Boom Boom !!!!
Matthew Reply:
October 26th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
There is no evidence of Booms jackass. No big boom. Not on a single video. Everyone in the area of the 93 bombing heard the boom. Gee, I wonder why every single witness doesn’t talk about a huge boom?? Gee, I wonder why there wasn’t black smoke pouring out of the lobby like there was in 1993??? I dunno, maybe because there was no bomb in the basement??
October 25th, 2009 at 11:13 am
This is contributing evidence that proves pre-impact detonation Tower 2
Listen at the 2 second mark right before impact
Invictus
Paul
Check out this video on YouTube:
This is proof of ectronic disturbance and Thud sound right before *
first impact.
Check out this video on YouTube:
October 25th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Matt,
Why would there be explosions before impact?
Matthew Reply:
October 26th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
There weren’t. And, I am not Matt.
October 25th, 2009 at 11:29 am
NYsentinel Says:
October 11th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
(A) Mark Roberts is …
(A) Mark Roberts is listed by NYC-DCA as a licenced “Site Seeing Guide”
(A) Mark Roberts is listed in financial connection to “B.A.G. = Big Apple Greeter”
Which is heavely connected to NYC Mayors Office PANYNJ and the MTA
Google: Mark Roberts Big Apple Greeter
October 25th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Paul Isaac (NYsentinel) Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
“As Im starting to pick up her personal effects, we heard this rumbling. BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM. Its coming, this roaring sound. The lights flicker, but as I look outside to see whats going on, I start to see what unitially looks like a storm, but it was the dust cloud starting to form from way up on top of the building. All of a sudden, I could see the facade of the south tower falling against battery park city. And then all hell broke loose and BOOM BOOM BOOM. Everything came crashing In. A tremendous wind comes Through”
Captain Tim Pearson
NYPD PSA (Police Service Area) 2
Page 136
Report From Ground Zero
(Dennis Smith)
October 25th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Matt,
“BOOM BOOM BOOM”
Stated before the building (T2) started falling
Matthew Reply:
October 26th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Describing the collapse.
Still not Matt.
October 25th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Im a FDNY Aux/Lt (18 years)
Im a Fmr NYPD A/Po ( APSU-Candidate)
When someone brings tears to the family
I find Em Find Em Neutralize Em
If Im a bad person for looking for the (REAL) killers
SO WHAT !!!
I rather die as a Patriot
than a chicken s--- sellout
October 25th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Its obvious that post will removed by this cocksucker
So Matt you and triforcharity can reach me at
NYCcrashcrew@yahoo.com
For further questions
October 25th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
And this is for the LEOs watching this s---
I HUNT COP KILLERS FOR SPORT
Never Forget 911
October 25th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
“InfoWars is racist”-Rockefeller funded Activist from Foundation funded Esperanza Center
October 25th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
You trying to Bug me spookie?
You can watch me all f---ing
Im not luke rudkowski running away
Im running at you then over you douchbag
October 25th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
ALL f---ING DAY !!!
October 25th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Alex Jones’ Prison Planet.com » Conspiracy Buffs Warn of Kissinger …
I wonder how many FDNY auxiliary firemen .. “Another of Angelini’s sons, Mike Angelini, an auxiliary firefighter, was standing alongside Fire Chaplain Mychal Judge, .. By MICHELE McPHEE DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER ..
http://www.prisonplanet.com/conspiracy... – Options
October 25th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
—————————————————
“Another of Angelini’s sons, Mike Angelini, an auxiliary firefighter, was standing alongside Fire Chaplain Mychal Judge, helping the injured who poured out of the twin towers. He escaped death, even as the beloved cleric was killed.”
How much heartbreak must family bear?
By MICHELE McPHEE DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Father Mychal Judge (RIP)
Archangel St. Micheal
Defend Us In Battle…
October 25th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Alex Jones’ Prison Planet.com » Hundreds of 9/11 first responders …
Aug 24, 2009 .. Paul Isaac Jr APO#12017-438136-17Pct. E-mail Letter to NYC-GOV Monday September 11, 2000 1657Hrs. ..
http://www.prisonplanet.com/hundreds-o... – Options
October 25th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Now on WRH more shilling by
Mike Rivero. The same guy who Jerry Mazzas’ “Woolsey sent the gag order
‘Rescue Me’ star Daniel Sunjata’s impassioned plea for a new 9/11 Investigation
Tags: 911
Actor and 9/11 truth activist, Daniel Sunjata, gave a rousing speech from New York’s Battery Park this Sunday in support of NYC CAN’s New York City ballot initiative to create a new independent commission to re-investigate 9/11.
The actor who plays Franco Rivera on the critically-aclaimed television show ‘Rescue Me’ demanded that the city of New York respect the wishes of over 80,000 signatories who want to see a new investigation of 9/11.
The government respect the wishes of the people????
This ain’t TV; this is real life.
I have it on good authority that the real budget for LCAC was about $50,000; at least some of that was for Sunjata. I hope to have some more details soon.
Pat Curley | Homepage | 09.26.09 – 2:21 am | #
Oooooops !!!!
October 25th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
the investors of this pathetic movie got ripped off bigtime, where did all the money go!?
we demand an investigation!!!
dwlan | Homepage | 09.25.09 – 9:05 pm | #
October 25th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
I have it on good authority that the real budget for LCAC was about $50,000; at least some of that was for Sunjata. I hope to have some more details soon.
Pat Curley | Homepage | 09.26.09 – 2:21 am | #
They paid Sunjata? While that scumbag isn’t exactly Leonardo DeCapri, I’m sure he isn’t poor. Shouldn’t he be working pro bono for such a “worthy” cause as da twoof?
ConsDemo | 09.26.09 – 8:49 am | #
October 25th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Heres Mikes new headline on whatreallyhappened.com
How Ironic…
Oath Keepers speak out at inaugural conference
Tags: PROTESTS/REVOLUTION
No amount of controversy will keep Oath Keepers from educating people about what it means to support and defend the Constitution.
That was the message Saturday during the kickoff of the group’s inaugural national conference, a two-day event that comes at a time when Oath Keepers is experiencing a surge in membership and notoriety.
October 25th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
And now another “story” on Whatreallyhappened.com
Why 911 Truth Matters
Tags: 911 DICTATORSHIP
Thousands of men and women were murdered on September 11, 2001. The adjective, “innocent”, significantly added, results in “innocent men and women”. This serves to convey and reinforce a message that, unlike the eagerly anticipated fate of the guilty murderer, their demise was undeserved. Justice and revenge become inseparable in capital punishment.
October 25th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
I did not reference “the landfill”
I merely asked people to listen to Sabrina’s own words. In the video, when confronting Ghouliani, she states she could not find her relatives because… etc.etc. My point is that she claims to have relatives that died on 9/11. She did not. That is not a picture of anyone Sabrina is related to hanging around her neck. Ask her yourself, please.
The reason she says she is a family member is because the boyfriend she had before Luke WAS a 9/11 Family Member. Dating does not, in my opinion, make one a 9/11 Family Member.
Luke’s got his own secrets too. If the hero worship continues his real story should told.
Submitted by WTC Eye Witness on Mon, 09/28/2009 – 10:20pm.
October 25th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Fireman Admits Again: 9-11 Inside Job – UU2 Conspiracy theory …
If you need further proof Google:Village Voice Auxiliary Fireman” and you’ll get an idea why their story doesn’t hold water. ..
perspectives.com/../view_topic.php – Options
October 25th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
I guess by you removing that post youre
admitting Fintan Dunn was right by calling you
CIA Fake Truthers
October 25th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Dan Wallace
Barry Jennings
RIP
October 25th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Oh this the posted comment bulls--- on David Ickes website with this
bulls--- yellownews story…
“Actually, the firefighters are making a “killing” by defending the existence of fake comrades. I don’t know why they are doing it, yet. http://www.septemberclues.info doesn’t talk about their motivation … Maybe it’s because they were threatened by the CIA, but maybe it’s because they are making enough money to make it worth it to them to sell their soul to the devil.”
Observe some of the 300 fake firefighters:
October 25th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Heres my retort:
You don’t actually have to be a firefighter to join “Firefighters for 9/1…
Wednesday, August 27, 2008 – 40 Posts by 26 People
Of their own representatives, they flat-out ADMIT that Quote: : you dont [sic] have to be a firefighter find it a little dishonest, Tweeter, that a group that calls itself “Firefighters for 9/11 Truth ? Nice.I’m more so amused by the link for single firefighters. If with all these groups anyone can
Preview – More from forums.randi.org
October 25th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
28th August 2008, 05:58 AM #37
Totovader
Game Warden
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 2,240
Originally Posted by Dictator Cheney
good to know that JREF is supporting such behavior and actions.
Originally Posted by Dictator Cheney
shows the realy intellectual honesty on JREF.
Originally Posted by Dictator Cheney
JREF showing its real face.
Originally Posted by Dictator Cheney
JREF is supporting it.
Instead of accusing the Great Mythical Multi-headed “JREF” of being… pretty much anything you don’t like… why don’t you take a minute and recognize what’s really going on? A group- claiming to be FIREFIGHTERS and representing your blessed fantasy movement is nothing of the sort, as pointed out by the fact that anyone- including fake and multiple identities can sign up. You should be thanking some of the individuals here who are taking part in this demonstration for exposing yet another group as fraudulent.
But instead, your pathetic fantasy movement is so desperate for attention and membership that you actually get angry when these pathetic specialty groups are exposed as having lax membership policies such that any one or any thing can join as many times as they want. You want the numbers to be inflated and you don’t want anyone to ask questions.
How can you possibly think you’re on the right side of this if that has to be your policy?
__________________
“It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.” –Jonathan Swift
Blog – Corrected By Reality. My debunking videos, and philosophy on YouTube
Totovader’s 9/11 Conspiracy Challenge Still unanswered!
October 25th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Instead of accusing the Great Mythical Multi-headed “JREF” of being… pretty much anything you don’t like… why don’t you take a minute and recognize what’s really going on? A group- claiming to be FIREFIGHTERS and representing your blessed fantasy movement is nothing of the sort, as pointed out by the fact that anyone- including fake and multiple identities can sign up. You should be thanking some of the individuals here who are taking part in this demonstration for exposing yet another group as fraudulent.
But instead, your pathetic fantasy movement is so desperate for attention and membership that you actually get angry when these pathetic specialty groups are exposed as having lax membership policies such that any one or any thing can join as many times as they want. You want the numbers to be inflated and you don’t want anyone to ask questions.
How can you possibly think you’re on the right side of this if that has to be your policy?
October 25th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Instead of accusing the Great Mythical Multi-headed “JREF” of being… pretty much anything you don’t like… why don’t you take a minute and recognize what’s really going on? A group- claiming to be FIREFIGHTERS and representing your blessed fantasy movement is nothing of the sort, as pointed out by the fact that anyone- including fake and multiple identities can sign up. You should be thanking some of the individuals here who are taking part in this demonstration for exposing yet another group as fraudulent.
But instead, your pathetic fantasy movement is so desperate for attention and membership that you actually get angry when these pathetic specialty groups are exposed as having lax membership policies such that any one or any thing can join as many times as they want. You want the numbers to be inflated and you don’t want anyone to ask questions.
How can you possibly think you’re on the right side of this if that has to be your policy?
1
October 25th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Instead of accusing the Great Mythical Multi-headed “JREF” of being… pretty much anything you don’t like… why don’t you take a minute and recognize what’s really going on? A group- claiming to be FIREFIGHTERS and representing your blessed fantasy movement is nothing of the sort, as pointed out by the fact that anyone- including fake and multiple identities can sign up. You should be thanking some of the individuals here who are taking part in this demonstration for exposing yet another group as fraudulent.
But instead, your pathetic fantasy movement is so desperate for attention and membership that you actually get angry when these pathetic specialty groups are exposed as having lax membership policies such that any one or any thing can join as many times as they want. You want the numbers to be inflated and you don’t want anyone to ask questions.
How can you possibly think you’re on the right side of this if that has to be your policy?
2
October 25th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
You don’t actually have to be a firefighter to join “Firefighters for 9/1…
Wednesday, August 27, 2008 – 40 Posts by 26 People
Of their own representatives, they flat-out ADMIT that Quote: : you dont [sic] have to be a firefighter find it a little dishonest, Tweeter, that a group that calls itself “Firefighters for 9/11 Truth ? Nice.I’m more so amused by the link for single firefighters. If with all these groups anyone can
Preview – More from forums.randi.org
October 25th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
rigorousintuition.ca :: View topic – “911 Troof” – compromised by …
And Jones employs Mike Rivero – they share a broadcaster, GCN, and a sponsor .. Tucker still works at Carto’s American Free Press. ..
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/... – Options
October 25th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Web
Options
Ex-CIA Chief James Woolsey handed down gag-order to 9/11 Firefighters
Google: “Les Jamieson nyccan” Good Ol Les Showed a movie on beastiality in a church (st marks) ON HOLY GROUND !!! AT A 911 EVENT ! ..
http://www.infowars.com/ex-cia-chief-j... – Options
America, you shall not speak! Period! – Forums of Pravda.Ru
14 posts – 3 authors
Jerry Mazza Infowars October 20, 2009 ….. Les Jamieson | 05.28.09 – 6:08 pm | #*.. homosexuality, beastiality and sexual ..
engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php – Options
The CIA Silenced NY Firefighters – Page 3 – Let’s Roll Forums
10 posts – 2 authors
Ive been outing nyccan/les jamieson as a fraud for more than a year now. .. BEASTIALITY (sex with animals) at st marks. .. Now Jerry Mazza (tool) makes up a fairy “tale” about me calling fireman cowards and ..
October 26th, 2009 at 11:58 am
alex jones and ambushing the police and brain eating glowing monkeys
October 26th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Alex Jones pulls gun and shows it off
October 26th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Paul Isaac Jr Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 11:58 am
alex jones and ambushing the police and brain eating glowing monkeys
October 26th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Alex Jones pulls gun and shows it off
Both on youtube for your entertainment
October 26th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
This has been fun
Thanks