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Ex-officer pleads not guilty in BART shooting
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CNN
January 16, 2009
OAKLAND, California (CNN) — A former police officer for the Bay Area transit system pleaded not guilty Thursday in the New Year’s Day shooting of a passenger at an Oakland rail station.
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Johannes Mehserle, 27, appeared in a packed Alameda County courtroom, with his supporters separated by a courtroom aisle from relatives of shooting victim Oscar Grant III and other spectators. Mehserle is charged with shooting Grant, 22, in an incident that spurred violent protests in Oakland after being captured on video.
Mehserle resigned his job as a Bay Area Rapid Transit police officer days after the shooting, and he was arrested in Nevada earlier this week. Thursday’s proceedings took less than five minutes, with Mehserle appearing behind heavy windows in an enclosure out of view of all but a handful of spectators.
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January 16th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
just let the stooge go.. maybe it will wake up some more people and we can get this revolution started.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Stand him up against a wall and give the family tazers, on kill!
January 16th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
watch the vid again … looks like he tried once and then had to take the safety off and try again … he pulls the gun and points it at the guy then touches it with the other hand then shoots him
January 16th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
I didn’t mean toooooo….honest….I didn’t mean to shoot that guy in the back while he was on the ground and unarmed…honest…you can trust me…I’M A COP!
January 16th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
@ #1…RIGHT ON BRO, RIGHT ON!
January 16th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
But what is he being charged with? “Shooting someone” is not a charge. Is it murder? Manslaughter? “Dereliction of Dooty?” What?
January 16th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
But what is he being charged with? “Shooting someone” is not a charge. Is it murder? Manslaughter? “Dereliction of Dooty?” What??
January 16th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Pretty sure BART uses Glocks. There is no safety per se. The “safety” is a lever on the trigger itself that is automatically deactivated when the trigger is pressed to the rear during the act of discharging the weapon. The idea is that this system makes the arm quicker to use and eliminates the possibility of forgetting to take the safety off, as well as allowing a consistent trigger pull each time with no first shot long, heavy double action pull.
Call in and ask Jason Bermas to explain it. LOL Gee, that guy is making me sick with his ignorance of second amendment/militia issues and the effectiveness thereof. I can’t stand him anymore. I’ll listen to someone else until they pull that snot nosed kid off of the show. Sorry.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Hard to believe Mehserle had supporters in the court room.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
The news I heard was that he was charged with murder.
That was why I was so happy. I didn’t hear anything about manslaughter.
Although I also didn’t hear anything about second or third degree murder, so I’m
not sure.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
I give far more leniency to these street cops who confront unscripted scenes than the pigs who dress up in black with masks and kick in doors (many times at the wrong house). When they kill it is MURDER. This guy made a mistake looking at the video. I don’t know what should happen to him but in many forces he would soon get his job back. In those forces the chief should be indicted for murder.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
SERFIN USSA Says:
January 16th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
I didn’t mean toooooo….honest….I didn’t mean to shoot that guy in the back while he was on the ground and unarmed…honest…you can trust me…I’M A COP!
This will more than likely be his plea one hundred percent…..
January 16th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
he looks like a real souless piece of shit. set the s.o.b. on fire.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
“Not guilty” – We all saw him do it. He did it very dramatically, too, like he was playing a part.
Where are the indictments for his accomplices????
January 16th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
This stinkin pig of course is going to pleed not guilty to save his coward hide.He will get a attorney to say he did commit murder by accident,and the corrupt legal system will drag it on for years,the pigs serve this demonic legal system,they are all in the same club,very rare they will do in their own.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
As anyone who sponsors, participates or posts on this site would. Very few short of Tomothy McVeigh had the coruage to accept the responsibility without exhausting all resources to save their ass.
It is very easy to point the finger… and many of the posters on this sight remind me of the movies scenes where people were going to be beheaded or hanged. They enjoy it as long as they are pointing the finger… Once they become the one pointed at.. they want rules changed.
If we had a justice system that was fair, instead of corrupted by lawyers and ex-lawyers who are now judges, perhaps we would fair better as a society. That is not to be..because the common citizen has lost touch and no longer wants the responsibility of being a citizen and the duty that acompanies such status.
Until that changes… “Let someone else do it for you/us…”
January 16th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
We all saw him do it granted. But the maxim of the law is “guilty until proven innocent”. That said I hope they nail him to the wall AFTER a trial in a court of law.
January 16th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
#16 You clearly did not see the video.
January 16th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
I found it interesting that he had enough “supporters” to be separated into one entire half of the courtroom. Perhaps the government should tap their phones and illegally intercept their emails to determine what these sympathizers to murder are saying and perhaps plotting. Oh wait, they are part of the same team that does the surveillance … Nevermind.
January 16th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Jeanette; you posted the following in #17:
“We all saw him do it granted. But the maxim of the law is “guilty until proven innocent”. That said I hope they nail him to the wall AFTER a trial in a court of law.”
You had the principle backwards, but it’s more correct to say that there’s a *presumption* of innocence prior to trial proceedings. One of my ‘pet peeves’ is the folks running around saying that people are “innocent until proven guilty” which is, often, not the case.
For example, a man could commit a murder for which he’s never caught, tried and proven guilty. Since such a man was never brought before the judgment bar and convicted, does this mean that he’s innocent? (rhetorical) I try to look at criminal justice matters objectively, and in light of fundamental morality.
Unfortunately, our criminal justice system is totally broken at all levels. Attorneys are at the core of the failure (check out the meaning of the Latin root for that word, *tornere*). The innocent are convicted and the guilty go free.
Proverbs 17:15 He who justifies the wicked, and he who condemns the just, Both of them alike [are] an abomination to the LORD.
Semper Fi, Chris in Colorado
January 16th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
18 Reevo -
whether I saw the video or not is irrelevant.
If you had been the one who pulled the trigger, acidentally or on purpose, you would be wanting everthing you could to save your ass right now…. Just like this guy probably is.
I am sure he is well aware his life is in ruins …whether his act was intentional or accident.
Are you too ignorant to gte that point?
Or if you had been him… would you have instantly realised your error, intentional or not, and placed the muzzle of your gun in your mouth and held yourself accountable at that moment?
If you are capable.. try being honest. The answer would be “NO”.
January 16th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
He’ll prob get off with Negligent homicide like the officer in Cincinatti, then aquitted with a slap on the wrist, the game is rigged, citizen has no power in the kangaroo court.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Cincinnati_riots
January 16th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Sure they will throw this idiot to the wolves. What about the other officers on the scene that tried to confinscate peoples cameras they are involved in a conspiracy to conceal material evidence. what about bart officials who claim the cameras didn’t work these people are all guilty of crimes.
January 16th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
18 Reevo -
whether I saw the video or not is irrelevant.
If you had been the one who pulled the trigger, acidentally or on purpose, you would be wanting everthing you could to save your ass right now…. Just like this guy probably is.
I am sure he is well aware his life is in ruins …whether his act was intentional or accident.
Additiionaly ..perhaps you missed my point. Everything may or may not be as it appears. What was going through the BART officer’s mind, how many encounters/confrontations has he had, was he afraid of someone acting as Grant had been acting prior to the video taping,(Note: a fight was mentioned.. we do not have the advantage of seeing what transpired there to suggest the evnts that lead up to this incident) etc.
I am not a bloodthirsty human thinking I can determine “justice” without all the facts. It is obvious many are on this site sincethis article has began to be milked over a week or two now
Are you too ignorant to gte that point?
Or if you had been him… would you have instantly realised your error, intentional or not, and placed the muzzle of your gun in your mouth and held yourself accountable at that moment?
If you are capable.. try being honest. The answer would be “NO”.
My point is once injustice is not being corrected by commiting another. It is not a matter of the BART security guard ‘walking free” or anything else. It is about accountability..and I have not heard the facts.
Would you like to be “tried by video”?
I think not.
January 16th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
The system of law, in spite of appearances, is based upon the cionceot that “It is better that 100 accused people go free than than than one innocent person be convicted”.. which may not seem fair to many of you.. UNLESS you are the innocent man about to be convicted. That is OUR system..like it or not. Anything else is subject to “mob rule” as seems to be the mindset of many posting.
I personally DO NOT know EVERY event or the sequence of events or the state of mind of the BRAT Security person(s) or the history of crimes/conflicts/incidents that are encountered on the everydayBART commute. I would be willing to bet it is not “Happy Valley” all the time in that area.
I do NOT follow mob rule.. and I would hope every individual would be reserved until they have ALL the facts, should they ever come to light.
Again.. I personally believ from the comments of others on and off this web sight that the man who shot this guy was as shocked as anyone else that he did it initially. That is ON THE VIDEO as well.
I stand by my beleifs..and I ceratinly would not want to stand trial of a accused crime I know I am innocent of with 95% of the people who post on this web site. Your responses indicate you are no better than those you condemn.
January 16th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
No justification to draw a WEAPON(CASE CLOSED)
January 16th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Take heart folks; Just like history has showen us when Rullers start hurting their own population it gets PERSONAL.
And folks that say the Gov is all powerfull with better weapons don’t understand that it takes MEN & Women to operate said weapons so lets put this matter into perspective by the numbers–>
(one)->We have a sighned contract that we place our LIVES on to preserve!
(two)->we have a VERY well armed population!
(three)->we have the internet with us as the NEW printing press(just like1774)
(four)Becase of the internet a A vast number of good folks NOW KNOW our GOV has lost its mind and is guilty of many criminal acts with forensic science & math that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt and the jury is out on this said matter(start with this PEER REVIEWED POWER POINT PRESENTATION)-> http://www.ae911truth.org/flashmov11.htm
(five) add all the four points and then you will understand that when the time is right and the Men & women inranks see good folks getting hurt then GEAR WILL BE USED AGAINST THE MONSTERS that commit said acts, and let foreign troops commit acts of aggression and watch the C130s come from afar and it will be over for the REAL TERRORIST(THIS IS OUR HOME) {GOT IT}.
The Tiger cage is open and the sleeping GIANT is about awake so THINK FOLKS!
May the light of love guide and protect us all in the fight thats soon to come.
January 16th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
ive seen the video and it is a brutal execution of an innocent unarmed and HANDCUFFED victim. why isnt the video being played on the news? our government is murdering people in cold blood and getting away with it. next they will be herding us into fema camps
January 16th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
What a LOW GRADE SCUM BAG A MURDERER COUGHT ON TAPE AND LIES FOR HIS CRIMINAL ACT AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION AND THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE THAT CAN TRAVEL TO AND FROM FREELY THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO STOP OR QUESTION UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE.
January 16th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
i saw the video. guilty. thats was easy. how can he even say not guilty? hope every juror saw the tape too. It almost made me vomit to watch. I did vomit in my mouth a little when i saw his plead.
January 16th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
wow
amazinq
January 16th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
And I will state the obvious.. Coorput GVt’s have been ousted by “good men” only to evlove into corrupt GVTs once the “good men” had achieved power.. and so the cycle goes.
Our country in the US was founded by “good men” with “good principles of justice’,,,a nd yet here we are gain.. History and the “cycle of man” always repeats itself.
Rome was once a “good place” to live… and yet it was corrupted.
We are far weakedr humans than times were two hundred years ago. We are little more than conditioned lab rats for the most part. Intergrity is as rare as hen’s teeth.
January 16th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
TO CASUAL OBSERVER – You must must have been born with the umbilical cord too tightly wrapped around your neck. Before you even think about chiming in on this, you’d better believe that it IS indeed relevant that you watch the video. Even If the officer intended to pull out his taser gun, the fact still remains that at least THREE other officers were holding this man face down to the pavement. He was completely subdued and immobilized wherefore he had no reason to even tase the man. That would have been unnecessary use of a weapon. The main concern of the people of this site is that this executer does not get off scott-free as they so often do. If you can’t agree with that simple fact, then perhaps you’d better wrap the cord back around a couple more times and go back to sleep.
January 16th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
regardless of what we all would like to see happen to this thug cop. could this be the beginning of an nwo oj moment?
i cant help but think that he beats the rap and the entire state goes apeshit …..boooooom lockdown welcome to the new state of martialafornia. wow this could have teeth. man i hope not .
back to reality – line in the sand is right and a clear cut case – no reason to draw period! i mean did you think the other cop with his knee on oscars neck was very happy to have someone shoot 1 foot away from him? he jumped up like he was on fire as we all would have knowing there was no reason to draw your weapon no less than to actually use it. the other cop could have been hit by riccotet – oscar was murdered plain and simple. i hope any of us can make a difference for this case or his family somehow.
love to the mother
January 16th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Look its like this; I work with allot of PEACE OFFICERS and you don’t draw a WEAPON unless you fear for your life to avoid problems such as this(nuf said) and I remember Some of the FOUL things (Casual Observer) & (Ditto) so to you and MOST OF ALL #33 HEAR THIS!
Take heart folks; Just like history has showen us when Rullers start hurting their own population it gets PERSONAL.
And folks that say the Gov is all powerfull with better weapons don’t understand that it takes MEN & Women to operate said weapons so lets put this matter into perspective by the numbers–>
(one)->We have a sighned contract that we place our LIVES on to preserve!
(two)->we have a VERY well armed population!
(three)->we have the internet with us as the NEW printing press(just like1774)
(four)Becase of the internet a A vast number of good folks NOW KNOW our GOV has lost its mind and is guilty of many criminal acts with forensic science & math that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt and the jury is out on this said matter(start with this PEER REVIEWED POWER POINT PRESENTATION)-> http://www.ae911truth.org/flashmov11.htm
(five) add all the four points and then you will understand that when the time is right and the Men & women inranks see good folks getting hurt then GEAR WILL BE USED AGAINST THE MONSTERS that commit said acts, and let foreign troops commit acts of aggression and watch the C130s come from afar and it will be over for the REAL TERRORIST(THIS IS OUR HOME) {GOT IT}.
The Tiger cage is open and the sleeping GIANT is about awake so THINK FOLKS!
May the light of love guide and protect us all in the fight thats soon to come.
January 16th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
CASUAL OBSERVER, you are a fucking arrogant PEICE OF SHIT. Reguardless of what we didnt see, I saw an unarmed , hancuffed man get shot while his face was looking at the ground. To think that your intelligence is so high that you can disreguard this one major point. Your an idiot.Also, you dont want to be tried by video? HAHAHAHAHAH oh my god your dumb. People get convicted of crimes in this manner every day “SMART GUY” THATS THE REASON THE TECHNOLOGY IS SO IMPORTANT AND ITS ON EVERY SQUAD CAR TO USE AGAINST YOU. Just because hes a cop makes you think that the video has less weight in his personal situation. Fuck off…I am an educated police officer with a degree and i hope you see my posting…LISTEN UP OH EXHAULTED ONE, I HOPE ONE DAY A VIDEO IS THE ONLY THING THAT WILL BRING YOU JUSTICE AND LETS SEE HOW MUCH OF A MAN OF YOUR WORD U ARE THEN….LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC”
January 16th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
To say the least this will be interesting as it plays out and I’m sure cali. will be ready for more bullshit.
January 16th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Casual Observer, the more you post here the stupider you sound.
Unarmed people getting hog tied on the ground are not a threat,Period.
Your stupidity on the other hand, is a threat to all of us.
January 16th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
I would rather be called “arrogant” wrongly than “ignorant” correctly. I know right from wrong..and am not such a bseless human so as to assume anything by a momentary prodcution of a video. i cannot convict a person without hearing their side of the story. i would do the same for you if you were the bart guy.
If you want a jury to come to a verdict on anything less than the presentation of the story… both your side, the victiim/video side and presentation of the facts.. request so if you ever commit a crime. You have that option.. simply confess and deny a trail. I have never been to trial for a crime… but if I was accused.. I would want the facts to come forward. Especuilally if I were on trial for my freedom and life.
That is not “arrogance” that is the system we chose.
we had lynch mobs… unfortunately/…. much like our impatient present day jury trial system.. many are mesmerized by lawyers and illusions and are too lazy to do their duty as citizens. I wonder how many innocent people have been excecuted?
Would you or anyone else who posts here like to be the first(or another of many)? I say give the guy a fair trial with all the facts presented. Anyone who doesn’t want that… is an animal and no better than the guy on trail as they accuse him of being.
January 16th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Casual, does my screen name turn you on? Everyone knows most cops are gay, and there is nothing wrong with that.
January 16th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
We have a saying in the South-”He (the cop) needs killin”. The only thing we can hope for is the cop goes to the joint and jail house justice prevails. He is a piece of shit.
January 16th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
He is guilty of involuntary manslaughter, not murder.
He should do some time in prison.
January 16th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
YOU FUCKIN THICK BASTARD, YOU GOT CAUGHT ON VIDEO YOU STUPID CUNT !!!
PLUS I’M SURE THEY’LL HAVE A GREAT WELCOME PARTY 4U IN PRISON, HAVE FUN !!!
I FCUKIN HATE O”BAAA”MA BIN LADEN & ALL OF HIS ZIO-NEO-SCUM CRIMINAL FRIENDS !!!
WE’RE IN AN EDUCATION WAR FOLKS !!!
INFO-WARRIORS ………………………………………… ACCELERATE THE INFORMATION WAR !!!
POWER 2 THE PEOPLE …. REVOL
BY THE PEOPLE ………………….. UTION
4 THE PEOPLE ……………………………. TIME
TIME TO UNITE & FIGHT 4 OUR RIGHTS !!!
January 16th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
George #43
How may I ask was pulling out yoru weapon aiming it at a man and pulling the trigger involuntary? Involuntary reaction is like breathing or making your heart beat not killing a man in cold blood. Let me ask you this, would it be involuntary manslughter if you wasnt a police officer? Of course if it was your typical slave it would be murder 1st!
I really dont understand what the hell you are talking about he killed a man in front of 3 cameras and hundreds of witnesses. It is murder plain and simple. To use the excuse he thought it was a taser is weak first and second shows you how screwed up we are as a society. The man wasnt fighting back and was defensless laying on his stomach no need for the taser to begin with. The taser could have killed hi just the same.
We need to understand the police are out of control in this country and through media you begin to think thier actions are justified. Any police officer that has used a taser when in a non life threatening situation should be charged with attempted murder. These less lethal weapons have become accepted by the public mainly due to the name change to non lethal, and that name is simply not true. Tasers have killed over 500 people in America alone, seems kinda lethal to me.
One more thing before I go, you do not have to be a victim to these monsters. John Bad Elk v. United States, 177 U.S. 529, states you have the right to defend yourself from a unlawfull arrest to the death. We the people have the power!
http://1984usa.com/higherlearning/
January 16th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
To 39 off_thegrid -
My “honor” and “ethics’ are no threat to any human being deserving of fairness and an opprotunity to present their side of an issue.
I am not an animal or a inhuman beast who makes my decisions based on emotions
January 16th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
If this waste of taxpayer’s dollars gets off then Oakland………You better rise up!
January 16th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
I plea “not guilty”. That is the norm for all cases,unless you are going to go ahead and “throw
yourself,on the mercy of the court”. He will get a trial by a jury of his peers,”whether they are paid off or not remains to be seen”.
I think, he thinks, he is, Lincoln F. Stern. (Heavy Metal).
January 16th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
If Johannes Mehserle gets of murder I think Grants family will take it ok-not. J.M. is a coward till the end pleading not guilty with all the proof there is. His best bet would be plead guilty, and throw himself at the mercy of the court. He would get a better deal, plus it’s the right thing to do. He’ll have a nice welcoming comitty when he’s walking out of court. Oh wait that wont happen. He will get a police escort out the back in one of many unmarked cars with tinted windows. It is better that he gets out, because if he goes to jail he will be safe in pc. The COs will still protect him well. If he is given a bracelet he will be thinking is this the day I get shot grabbing my mail? There will be a 24 hour detail watching the house for 2 weeks. The cops will do his shopping too for him for a while I bet. He should ask for the death penalty as a blood sacrifise to his god Lucifer. I was looking at the coast to coast website, and they had a picture of the full wolf moon over lake Tahoe on January 10th. Very beautiful site, and I thought wow Johannes Mehserle was there to see that in person. Oscar Grant will never have that oppertunity again.
January 16th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Guilty as charged by millions of eye witnesses.
January 16th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
cops are all shills.. I found the following ad on craig’s list in tampa bay florida.. I was concerned for the children in this ad and my mom and I called the local police.. they told us it was acceptable and would have an officer call to tell us why. It’s one of the creepiest things I’ve ver seen:
NANNY WITH BENEFITS WANTED – REAL & LEGITIMATE JOB OPPROTUNITY (Tampa)
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Date: 2009-01-11, 12:58AM EST
Hello,
NANNY WITH BENEFITS WANTED – This is a real ad and a legitimate job opportunity. I am looking for a nanny with benefits for my children and husband. I have 2 kids, a newborn (3mo) and a 5 year old. The hours of the job are from 8-4 M-F. The five year old would be in kindergarten until 12 and the newborn would be with you all day. My husband works from home and is 35. We agreed that he could pick a nanny with benefits if we could find one.
Requirements:
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-You should be between 21-45 years of age
-You should enjoy keeping my husband company whenever requested
-Open to race and looks
Salary is negotiable based experience (but will definitely be well above average) and lunch will be included daily
THIS IS A REAL OPPORTUNITY – SERIOUS INQUIRES ONLY
Please e-mail name, any experience with kids, tell us that you are ok sharing my husbands company if you are selected, A picture may move you to the head of the pack but is not required to apply
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January 16th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
The cops supporters where all behind him I see, what a crock. How much you want to bet that many of his supporters are cops themselves. I have always wondered why haven’t the Federal Govt. used the RICO act against police organizations. I may have the answer to it, they know the police are bending and breaking the law. I think they are afraid that they need these “front line” fighters to do the dirty work in order to keep society in check. It’s truly amazing that cops can get away with murdering a person and people still say that it’s okay. Some people think that cops can do now wrong regardless of what they have done. Some like the idea of a cop beating up or killing a minority because they can get some form of revenge on a slight or a look or loss at the hands of a minority. Some also think that this is a line that is protecting the majority from the “evils” of what minorities can do.
The sick thing that these people don’t understand is that we are hearing more and more cases where it’s happening to whites. Soon many of those that sit up there and judge dirty officers as their protector have better watch out. Because one day you or someone you love may be on the bad side of a dirty cop. A black scholar said that when the govt. wants to try something new, they always try it on the minorities first. Then they go to the whites.
January 16th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
“Cops,” or “father warriors,”
(as they are known to a very select and SUPER informed groop of Humans)
“father warriors” are what are known as “willless creatures” because they posess not an emotional body.
“father warrior’s original cause problem is because they were ORIGINALY born as a result of a homosexual liason ….their mother was a drag gueen who was emulateing the aspects of a feminine creature….their ORIGINAL “mother,” was a man.
They ORIGINALY emerged in response to god getting his ass kicked by “the mother warriors” in “the war in the heavens.”
They very often drink beer to mask their feelings of wanting to boof their butt buddy, co-horts.
( other father warriors)
Watch out for this demented order of “spirits” they are more heartless than most real Humans can emagine.
January 16th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
I was going to leave a lengthy comment, but I figure it really won’t make any sense , cause everyone has their own views about this incident, even though it was all seen on tape. All I can say is, I believe in karma, and what goes around comes around. This is just a microcosm of how America views Black People. A Black Man is either an athlete, entertainer, or a criminal in the eyes of mainstream America. I beg to differ.! Since the Black Man arrived over here in shackles off the slave ships and build America to what it is today ,off of the blood , sweat and tears of free labor. The Black Man gets the short end of the stick, as far as being accepted into todays society. Blacks have to accept the god of the imperialists along with their culture and life style. Of course there’s going to be a struggle, when the Black Man don’t know his True Identity and he get lied to time after time, and indoctrinated to believe this rhetorical propaganda that’s suppose to integrate everyone. I see a big problem right there.
Now its like , since the Black Man is not needed any more for free labor Kill em all. I mean is that fair to say?
I believe its fear that produces hate. America knows this and stands beside the real people that fear the Black Man.! Its up to us , the people that knows the real agenda of the corrupted political system to WAKE UP those who are blind to the fact of the TRUTH.! And stand up against this racist, sexist and crooked power structure.!
January 16th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
fuck this motherfucker!
January 17th, 2009 at 12:21 am
Worrior Priestess Grandma #53 that was great, funny how the truth is so funny and terrifying.
“all humor is a civilized way of dealing with hostility” freud
i agree except for the definition of civilized, too vague.
true laughter is civil and untamed.
this guy is slime. cops who don’t love themselves (can’t truly respect anythone else) should not be cops, for it would make it imposable to protect or serve any one that is not an idol and a threat, but not an idol threat.
January 17th, 2009 at 12:51 am
Hey, just send him over here to my hometown. He’ll fit in with the rest of these gung-ho trigger happy dickless wonders.
January 17th, 2009 at 1:08 am
Casual Observer I think the reason you piss people off on this page is because you seem to be able to empathize with the Bart officer. But for some reason , I cannot help but wonder what was going through Oscar’s mind as they were leaning into his defenseless body, and he could feel the cop removing his gun , or his taser. He is the one I feel terrible about.
I think that is the difference between you and everyone else on this page. We feel for the victim and for some reason, you feel for the aggressor. We all want to know more about the circumstances, and hopefully see justice done.
So, why is it you have sympathy toward the officer rather than the victim?
January 17th, 2009 at 1:43 am
like this guy did it and he will lie at the time he tought he had power and will and now he will not admit and this guy never had honor if you will pull the triger and go all the way dont back out when the time comes to punish you if it was your faith explain why you did it
January 17th, 2009 at 1:45 am
Forget the theatrics….Even the Dream Team could not get this clown off.
……..so, they are already making up his VIP suite at San Q….
Great job Jerry Brown …. He is the only bright spot in CA politics.
A liberal with a badge…..Right On !!!!
January 17th, 2009 at 3:04 am
Two words ” Capital punishment”. Make an example of him so cops know their place. They are suppose to serve and protect not bind and murder. Seeing the video there is no justification to what this criminal in uniform did. There are good officers out there but this guy sure as hell isn’t one. If they don’t pass down the death penalty to this guy then the government is handing down death sentences to all Americans; where cops kill citizens without consequence.
January 17th, 2009 at 3:13 am
captol punshment make an example out of this murderer. I dont care f he says t was a mistake. OOPS I accidentally shot them doesnt cut it anymore and this guy has to be made a example of . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmXcsaz7BIs
January 17th, 2009 at 5:49 am
i am just starting to feel like maybe we should all walk around fully armed but totally peaceful as we due our every day duties for maybe like 3 days in a row to make a statement nationwide. just scare the shit out of the establishment – a very large reminder that it is us who allows them to exist here in this land.
who knows it might just raise enough eyebrows in the military and law enforcement that this might give them the opprotunity to show us or even tell us their alliance and maybe they realize that if they are to ordered to act out against us that we are not unaware of these plans and expect their allegiance against the nwo…….??
just spitballing here (likelyhood of dumbasses doing bad things – high) but could be a very strong statement to the powers and maybe a wake up a bunch of sheeple??
any thoughts?
i dunno maybe jan 21st-23rd no violence just carry them loud and proud -??? is it foolish or genius i cant decide – you try..
January 17th, 2009 at 6:43 am
Make it an annual holiday (#63) call it …Reality Day great idea ..
January 17th, 2009 at 7:27 am
To 58 Just Wondering -
You and anyone else trying to figure out why I take my stance on this incident need to read my posts. I am not empathizing/symapthizing with the BARt guard or Grant. I do not know the past of the officer.. and a few, I assume have researched Grant’s history and he has had his share of “impure moments” with behavior that possibly contributed this incident.
I am saying that “lynch mob” mentailty is not a form of justice I care for.. no matter who did what. That is why we have a jusrtice system.
I am not sure what was going through the cops mind, what he has been exposed to in his duty on BARt or anything else about him. I am saying give him the same fair shake that would be expected if Grant had shot him. It is no one’s duty to get shot ..either way.
As I stated.. I do not beleive the act was intentional.. perhaps a “case study stupid act of carelessness to the max”… but a precalculated “I am going to shoot him while he is down?” ..
People admit to watching the tape..and saw the immediate reaction of everyone involved when the shot was fired/went off.. yet it is ignored.
If grant had shot the officer… it would have been a one day article..But I would submit if that had been the case.. Grant would deserve a fair trial as well. His past criminal record would not have been a good reference… But I do not beleive in trying on a past hiistry either… UNLESS it shows indications of a pattern.
Anyone who posts here could at some point do what this officer did in the right circumstances with the conditions .. and I am sure they would expect.. naay DEMAND their “RIGHTS” to a fair trial be honored. I know I would.
That is my point, Plain and simple. You can split hairs, rehash what you may think my stand is on fairness… or whatever you like… But we have enough double standards already in the US.. creating mroe from the bottom up will not do anything good.
People on here critisize the sytem for corruptness.. and I agree it is.. yet they want to do the same thing the sysetm does and call it “just” if they commit “lynch mob justice”. It don’t work that way.
January 17th, 2009 at 8:12 am
what is wrong with you people?
Dod I need to remind you that blacks are one of the reasons that this country has turned to shit? virtually every founding father wanted them deported as soon as they became free men, one of Abraham Lincon’s first speaches was directed at blacks “We and you cannot co-exist together, it is best if you left”
In my view Black people in America are just as unconstitutional as Prohibitive gun laws and censorship
- A rational republican.
January 17th, 2009 at 8:36 am
#23, T-Bone: Right On it’s a criminal conspiracy & accessory. Power to the wolf pack. Now take the alpha war dog and cut his tail behind the ears.
January 17th, 2009 at 9:07 am
No, nothing is going to change unless the shit hits the fan, and then all the asleep sheep, and yuppies will finally get the picture. Otherwise the cancer will still be in the body.
This cop needs to fry as well.
January 17th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Casual Observer is obviously paid by the NWO. If the NWO is spending money trying to depreciate this site, than we must be on target.
January 17th, 2009 at 10:40 am
somebody need to pop a cap in this guy head.
January 17th, 2009 at 11:14 am
WELL, FINALLY A CROOKED COP GETS HIS DAY IN COURT. MAY JUSTICE BE DONE AND HE GO TO PRISON WHERE HE GETS SODOMIZED BY THE SAME PEOPLE HE BULLIED AND ARRESTED AS A CROOKED COP.
January 17th, 2009 at 11:58 am
No justification for pulling a weapon & a example of improper traning by MOST PDs.
Cut and dry it’s all about the attitude that is in their Federally sponsored training & that is the real problem in 90% of all Police officers.
Here is A way to hold all Police officers to their DUTY by a sited called rate my cop(IT WORKS)
http://www.ratemycop.com/index.....p;Itemid=1
January 17th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
I have a strange feeling that this chap will walk free from this. I don’t know why though.
January 17th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
why did lima get an article? there was a cop who shot a woman holding her baby shot through the childs arm and hit the mother and killed her…the cop however was givin a vacation..and of course he didnt lose his job….and was found innocent…. it happened in lima ohio…pretty sad shit…a pig kills a woman and injures her baby and get a vacation? and found not guilty? jus thought id let everyone know…just imagine how many innocent ppl and children and even babies are hurt and killed by cops?
Shawn mo
January 17th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
I just researched the Lima article. In my experience, cops love brutalizing women and children… I plan to give this incident a mention. It is the first I’ve heard of it. She was a really pretty girl, too. I think that makes it more fun for them if they can terrorize someone attractive.
An all white jury acquitted the officer. …And what year is this? Have we gone nowhere in terms of human rights?
January 17th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
at the end of the preview article it said ”a handful” of spectators. this man should be in jail i don’t know for how long but he should and if people don’t protest he wont go to jail
January 17th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Lets do what’s right.
Let’s hear the circumstances come out in court before we hang anybody.
Yeah the rope’s still there if deserved…but let’s hear the facts first.
Even the ‘clearest’ video doesn’t show intent… let’s hear the testimony.
January 17th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
Even if they hang that parasite, justice will not be complete.
His buddies that helped him execution, then harassing people confiscating evidence, and last but not least their mastermind chief ought to be hanged by the balls. See, you dispose of one crook, but the rest are set free. That ain’t no freaking justice.
January 17th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
I like your comments casual observer. Let him without guilt, throw the first stone…
Also, Warrior Priestess Grandma your comments too I enjoy.
January 17th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
The other officer should also be tried as well. This is abolutely reprehensible. Revolutions begin from crap like this.
January 18th, 2009 at 1:25 am
can we see the back of the officers head in a photograph please? does he have the trademark scar for an implant on his head? frequencies can be broadcast to make us do ANYTHING! to kill ANYONE! WTF! are WE guilty? there’s a 1/5 chance that we are in an artificial environment btw:) all of a sudden on NEW YEARS EVE we have WHITE COPS killing UNARMED AFRICAN AMERICANS in Oakland, CA, New Orleans, ETC. MIND CONTROL MUCH? hello… is there anybody in there…?
January 18th, 2009 at 5:22 am
There is no excuse for this..If this cop gets off murder charges , it will wake more sheeple up to the corruption in gov,t and law going on at the moment…..What would the black kid get if he shot the cop in the back whilst his mates held him down ?? Cop or not , there is no excuse for this ! 20 years to life , bad luck mate , you shouldn,t have pulled the trigger >>>>>
January 18th, 2009 at 5:59 am
pleaded not guilty?this asshole was seen and recoreded,cold bloodedly shooting Oscar Grant through his back and he pleads NOT GUILTY!?!?!?!
January 18th, 2009 at 7:02 am
Well those who favor increasing police totalitarianism are already trying to spin this as some case of reverse-racism, because the cop is white and the victim is black.
They’re claiming it’s not really murder, people are just mad because the cop is white. This is called projection. Please note it the next time someone goes off on how unfair of an advantage minorities have.
Generally all of these cries, on both sides, are simply attempting to further divide and conquer us. Don’t fall for it.
10-1 the cop gets off. We all know how this works.
January 18th, 2009 at 7:47 am
He Got His Plea Confussed With How He Feels!
January 18th, 2009 at 11:12 am
If the people of this country are to remain Citizens in a constitutional republic, their response to these types of events (which are bound to be on the increase) must be tempered with a view that recognizes the big picture………… If everyone goes hog wild… they are playing into the hands of those who would use ‘constitutional powers’ to quell riot and rebellion……….
……. Yes, a certain amount of agitated response is bound to happen — no stopping that: the outrage is both predictable and understandable…. —- Large, silent gatherings that do not engage in violence (look out for agent provacteurs) however, can be disarming to the powers that be. They know how to handle unruly crowds. And they have both the personnel and increasingly, the high-tech equipment to be very effective in such an operation.
Let cooler heads prevail. And keep your eyes on the prize. Liberty. Once taken, it will never be willingly given back to the people.
January 18th, 2009 at 11:13 am
My favorite response of the people to government corruption and arrogance happened in the Philippines when Marcos was ousted….. Once the people were clear about what he was up to and had been doing, they gathered in great numbers — surrounding the presidential palace……… Very peacefully, they stood vigil………… As I recall, they did not shout out or harass, but stood pretty much silently…… After a time, Marcos was tired of being treated like this. He ordered the army — which was guarding the palace — to disperse the crowd, shooting if necessary………. The army guards, being true patriots, refused to shoot their own countrymen and threatened to leave…….. Marcos slipped out of the country shortly thereafter…………. Under similar circumstances, we can hope that our police/military will side with the people…….
January 18th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Recall the outrage when the police officers who beat Rodney King were found ‘innocent’ in a court of law. Every one saw the video; they beat the ‘you know what’ out of him. The people rioted…………….. BUT, what most people never noticed is that the officers were charged with and tried for ‘Attempted Murder.’ ……………. The jurors in that case had very specific instructions from the judge. …………. In the end, they had to find them ‘innocent’ because those officers didn’t intend to ‘murder’ Rodney King. ………………………………..Did they intend to rough him up and/or teach him a lesson? Did they over-react, abusing their powers? Doesn’t matter. The charges against them were Attempted Murder……….
You could say that the District Attorney who brought the charges was incompetent. You could say that. BUT that may not be the right word to use…………………
It is important to note that there is a difference in these cases: Rodney King did not die at the hands of the police officers. In this incident, someone did die………..
Not sure if California law permits the jury to get a finding of guilty if they determine that the actions were manslaughter, the result of mistake, etc…. rather than an intention to murder………… BUT can see that a finding of innocence is going to set off a public display………
That being the case: Please keep in mind that the us govt has the right to put down ‘riot and rebellion’ (constitution and other EOs) and I am cynical enough to think that they would indeed precipitate a reaction that would allow them to step in with force……………. for ‘as long as is needed’ to restore order.
January 18th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
This is corrupt…
What is the judge a Freemason and the cop? They just flah Masonic hang signals to each other to help each other out…. lol.
The evidence is clear (video evidence)… that dirty cop shot Oscar in the back.. and he wasn’t resisiting.
January 18th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
The line has been drawn. Keep pushing on you mindless f**ks and you will finally cross the line you cannot see. Thats ok you will know when you cross it by the gun fire.
January 18th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
right on the money #85!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 18th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXSHu3-CGro
January 19th, 2009 at 11:26 am
He better pray he gets convicted. Cause street justice will take care of him real quick if they let him out.
January 20th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
I pledge to inform 1 million people about what really happpened on 9/11!!!
January 20th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
I actually live in San Francisco, and have been following the story. If you watch the actual video .. its outrageous what happened… the poor kid is handcuffed .. laying face down on his stomach, first he gets tazered, and then shot in the back … The poor kid wasn’t a threat to anyone at that point. The officer resigned the force so he wouldn’t have to go thru an internal affairs interview.. and now to plead not guilty.. he ought to be stoned to death in the center of town … The people want justice … i swear he is a marked man and his days are numbered. There were major riots in Oakland just days after the shooting.
January 20th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
I’m glad they brought charges against this officer who shot that young man in cold blood. Let the courts bring justice. I disagree with many of you who think rioting is the answer. Riots only cause more problems and hurt innocent people. We need a peaceful revolution. Violence is never the solution.
January 20th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
There are some interesting facts to consider here. First, Bay Area Rapid Tranist police are an accreditted police force, are extremely well paid and for some reason travel around in automobiles instead of riding the rails like every other tranist force in the world does and as common sense would dictate.
Second, a man with a bald head and a German name roughed up several black men in Fruitvale station between Lake Merritt and Colliseum stops in Oakland. Oakland is majority black and has a reputation for not putting up with impositions by whites in black sections.
Third, one of the videos clearly provided audio of someone shouting “This is the Bart police” followed by an expletive that starts with N.
Fourth, the fatal victim is clearly being bound with plastic handcuffs, held down by two cops in the lower portion of his prostrate body while the main perpetrator hits him in the head. A female officer who seems to have been the first responder stands guard on one side while a male officer stands guard on the other, to fend off possible rescuers from among the passengers.
Fifth, the police attempted to confiscate all footage. If the fourth point doesn’t stand up as conspiracy to murder, the fifth nails the coffin in that lid. The BART police force then refused to comment and issued conflicting statements to local media. They attempted to cover up for the murder, making the entire force complicit as accessories.
Sixth, the riot that resulted in 100 arrests at Fruitvale days later was described by one local resident as choreographed and performed by outsiders.
Seventh, a person’s address is considered public information in the United States. Thus when the indictment for premeditated murder is passed down, it will list the prime defendent as Johannes Mehserle, 27, of 71 Belvedere Court in Napa, California (an dpossibly include the zipcode 94559-4140). This is long established practice in the US. Addresses are public information. For the FBI to go to Alex Jones with a search warrant for IPs because of the release of the suspect’s address is just wrong, it’s false. The demand for IPs has to be based on threats, not the release of public information.
Eighth, Johannes Mehserle, the skinhead who shot an innocent man in cold blood on New Years’ morning of 2009. did so after the man begged him not to taser him because he had a young daughter. Johannes Mehserle, the neo-Nazi skinhead employed by BART to murder passengers, was on duty while his wife was awaiting the birth of their first child. This means the man will likely try to bring up an insanity plea, stress, trauma etc. It worked when the San Francisco cop who assassinated Harvey Milk claimed it was caused by excessive consumption of Hostess-brand Twinkies.
Ninth, Jerry Brown and a few others did make sure this crime got to the DA.
January 20th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Based on what I have read; he should be strung up and hanged at dawn!! But he does need to go through our whole justice system!! yet; it takes them too long to for a trial and he should be found guilty and put in prison for the rest of his life!! But does our legal system do much right!!?? No!! It takes them too long for capital punishment to occur and I would have found him guilty in less than 6 months!! And if the victim didn’t have any weapon like I heard; I would hang him on the anniversary of his killing!! And you only get one appeal as you are waiting for your death sentence also!! For I believe that you send killers and murderers to either God or the devil where they belong!! And if they die and go down to Satan and his fallen angels and to the hell fires; they will die trillions of times in their doomed existence in hell !! But what if he repents and ask Jesus for forgiveness and is serious about it!! Then God will forgive him and he will go to heaven and live like a god and king and be excepted by Jesus and the Holy Angels and the Almighty Father also!!
January 20th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
If the government wants to take your guns………..then there is no need for all officers of the law to carry guns either is there?
Unless requested to respond to an armed situation, police should have to follow the same rules Obama wants to set for the people. It’s only “fair”…….isn’t it?
January 21st, 2009 at 12:05 am
It was temporary insanity. For a flash he pictured the guy as an unborn baby and the murder was perfectly legal. He was actually just a few years late, otherwise the murder would be perfectly legal.
January 21st, 2009 at 10:53 am
well the gunshot wound tells it all.
how can you claim any kind of self defense when you shoot the guy in the back, not to mention their is clear video showing the man flat on his stomach with 2-3 cops on top of him, when he was shot in the back.
I think you would be labeled as a coward if you shot someone in the back like that in the olden days.
WTF was going through this retards head when he shot a defenseless guy in the back who was laying on his stomach. He must feel like a real man now…..
January 21st, 2009 at 11:47 am
#65 for a CASUAL OBSERVER you sure open your mouth alot!
January 21st, 2009 at 9:32 pm
I’m a deputy in Texas, and I believe he should be judged on the facts of this case and evidence such as the video evidence. I believe from what I saw on the video that he murdered a man who was in his custody period! He’s a disgrace to the badge, and it’s trigger happy Officers like him that give us all a bad name. I dont make much money, but that’s not why you get into law enforcement it’s to protect your neighbors and help stranded motorist who are in trouble. I’m sick of people bashing us because of a few assholes not all of us are bad! I swore an oath to uphold and protect the US Constitution, and I will NEVER turn on the American people and spit on my oath and not uphold it. I love this country and I’m willing to die for my convictions, and the day they order me to confiscate guns from law abiding citizens is the day I WILL REFUSE TO CARRY OUT AN ORDER! I also believe the other Officers at the scene of this incident should also take responsibility for not doing their jobs or keeping their oaths to uphold and protect the innocent!
TheGhost Reply:
January 27th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
lets hope your “brothers” do the same, or your police family is going to be handing out a lot of folded flags
January 21st, 2009 at 11:43 pm
predicition, he will get minium time in a level 2 prison site ( low risk) 2 to 5 years , this scumbag will walk off light, and that poor victims family will suffer all their lives without their father and her husband and the other victims too his family memebers ,and friends,just because this monster had a badge and gun but just like the rodney king case we will be told what we have seen is not what happened ,rememeber that one i do, you see its not called the botherhood of police officers for nothing so smell the stink it will only get worst,a white wash job in the works, this scumbag should have never been a cop but thats what they have now armed thugs with badges, the NWO POLICE STATE and anyone can get capped by the boys and they laugh about it with their buddies. smell the coffee it stinks!
January 22nd, 2009 at 12:17 am
#103, you got one thing right and that’s that the other officers should be locked the fuck up too.
January 22nd, 2009 at 4:37 am
This is a tragedy. One goes to the morgue and the other jail. One got wasted and the others a waste.
January 22nd, 2009 at 1:44 pm
This is fucking disgusting.
January 22nd, 2009 at 2:10 pm
I bet he will get 5 to 7 years on a man slauter charge, due to the fact that he discharged his firearm by accident.
Pitty is it not.
January 22nd, 2009 at 3:02 pm
If the cop says his gun “mischarged” I’m afraid he still has to face the consequences, as a cop you would know that if your not shooting, your guns on safety, so why wasn’t his gun on safety?…tht is IF he wasn’t trying to kill the poor man. This dirty pig simply wasted an American citizen because HE had a power tripp.
January 22nd, 2009 at 6:15 pm
To #103 “Patriot” Good for you, Sir! We’re all counting on there being more real patriot Law Enforcement Officers like you out there as well. Who can really imagine why this fool would shoot a handcuffed prisoner in the back when this prisoner was on his face and outnumbered like that? He should have holstered his firearm and should NOT have had it pointed at the prisoner with his finger on the trigger at that point of the confrontation. Has this idiot never heard the term “muzzle control?” This guy is not safe to go to the range with!
January 23rd, 2009 at 1:10 am
Hunt him down, and do the same to him. It’s the only way to send a clear concise message, that the people will no longer be intimidated by a bunch of jack booted thugs. The time to rise up and take back your country is NOW!! Not when it’s been done to you as you stand there wondering WHY, Obama will not change a damn thing, he’ll pass a few amendments to calm the sheeple, but it will be business as usual for a long time to come. Bill or rights? has morphed into a bill of WRONGS!!
January 23rd, 2009 at 5:01 am
Well said, Texas deputy (103)
January 23rd, 2009 at 10:17 am
An applicant to the (city deleted to protect the guilty) Sheriff’s Office was being interviewed for the job.
The Deputy doing the interview says: “Your qualifications all look good, but there is an attitude suitability test that you must take before you can be accepted.”
Sliding a service pistol across the desk, he says:
“Take this pistol and go out and shoot
six illegal aliens,
six meth dealers,
six Muslim extremists,
six crack heads,
and a rabbit. “
“Why the rabbit?”
“Great attitude,” says the Deputy. “When can you start?”
January 23rd, 2009 at 10:28 am
103 your my HERO. I respect the police but in NYC they have been transformed into secretaries with guns. The implementation of the quota system or “expectations” (they are told this during briefings) has created a disconnect with society. As a youth I remember a police captain coming into my block and recruiting kids to join the PAL basketball and boxing leagues (the boys club boxing system was better), btw this does not happen any more. I remember rookie cops asking if we did our homework and to also say “no to drugs”. I even recall a situation were a cop (possibly a captain) got one of my team members out for jail over a fist fight (12yrs old). I guess 103 what I’m trying to say is that you can become desensitize with dealing with society but you must hold your grounds and never lose your humanity and your GUN. There is no perfect form of government but what makes America great is its people who inspire change and not those who manipulate the government. EVERYBODY needs to “WAKE UP”
January 23rd, 2009 at 7:31 pm
FCUK O”BAAA”MA BIN LADEN & ALL HIS GLOBAL ZIO-NEO-SCUM CRIMINAL CONTROLLERS !!!
WE’RE IN AN EDUCATION WAR FOLKS , TIME TO UNITE & FIGHT 4 WHAT’S RIGHT !!!
INFO-WARRIORS ………………………………………………………….. STEP FORWARD
LET’S RETURN POWER 2 THE PEOPLE, RETURNED BY THE PEOPLE & RETURNED 4 THE PEOPLE !!!
January 23rd, 2009 at 9:27 pm
#65 Causal Observer; Let the unadulterated, unmanipulated, and uncontaminated evidence support the prosecution of this case. Let TRUE justice take it’s coarse. If the cop were to face the reverse situtation. Where he had shot the cop. The cops would do as always they would close ranks about their brother and take whatever measures to convict the accused perpetrator, including lying, tampering with evidence, concealing evidence, planting false evidence, manipulating evidence. The truth is the Police tried that and didnt get away with it. Good.
#103 I salute you my fellow Citizen, men like you are the foundation of trust for the Citizenry. It is unfortunate that the few leave such a stain for the many that serve well with honor. As for the other officers, I think that them not having arrested the suspect on the spot, is evidence of attempt to conceal evidence, conspiracy to deprive rights, accomplice to felony murder….
January 23rd, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Take a look at frontsight.com. I got the free 90min DVD and watched it the other day. The place looks awesome, and I think Alex should get this guy on. I think one of the video testimonials on the website is of Joe Bannister…some of you may remember him. My goal is to go to Frontsight asap!
January 24th, 2009 at 12:24 am
his plea in hell will be guilty
http://www.repentamerica.com
January 24th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Seriously, we don’t know all that went on. The officer might have had Twinkies before the public execution. Innocent until stamped guilty by the state. I mean really all you guys have to go on is a video showing him do it, a shitload of witnesses, and a body with the officer’s ballistically traceable round. It was probably an accident that he drew down on a defenseless person. Probably an accident that he shot him in the back. Probably an accident that more and more unarmed people are being killed by police. REALLY though, I have a suspicion this guy has been over in Iraq, spreading democracy in the same manner.
January 24th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
“Not guilty”??? lol! Thank God for video cameras, it’s probably the ONLY reason he’s in court right now at all!!! The Masons will let him off light for being a good little NWO robot.
January 24th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
Not guilty? Now, what should we believe? The video or our lying eyes?
January 25th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
PATRIOT…..THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND HONORING YOUR OATH OF OFFICE. WHY AREN’T THERE MORE HONORABLE PEOPLE LIKE YOU ON THE FORCE. WE HAVE HEARD FROM SO FEW WITH A COMMITMENT TO EXPOSE AND GET RID OF THE ROTTEN APPLES?
January 25th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
This is totally just like the Offspring song L.A.P.D
They’re shooting anyone who even tries to run
They’re shooting little kids with toy guns
Take it to a jury but they don’t give a damn
Because the one who tells the truth is always the policeman
Beat all the N*****S
Beat whoever you see
Don’t need a reason
L.A.P.D
TheGhost Reply:
January 27th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
thats an old school jam lol
January 26th, 2009 at 4:49 am
where have the number tags gone
January 26th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Plead “Not Guilty.” Well DUH, anyone who has even a basic knowledge of the system knows that “NOT GUILTY” is the ONLY response the courts will accept during arraignment. You cant claim you are guilty, the judge wont accept that, the one only plea you can tell the courts is you are NOT GUILTY.
So all of the people making comments about him pleading not guilty is like complaining that a judge, a bailiff and an attorney aren’t required during a criminal court proceeding. It’s the system.
TheGhost Reply:
January 27th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
hey dumb tits, you can plead guilty, not guilty, or no contest.. thats the point of the arraignment, to decide whether or not the case is going to proceed to trial.. lol jesus christ havent you watched law and order muthafucka!?
January 27th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Not only does the “law enforcement” officer who did the shooting need to be prosecuted for murder, but all the other officers, that participated in the attempted cover-up, also need to be prosecuted.
January 27th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Do a title search in youtube and enter the title below
human rights human deceptions
January 27th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
His commanding officer should also be on trial for trying to protect him after a crime was committed and not investigated for several days.
There are many people guilty here!!!
It is good to see how the protection of glass applies to the officer, but the victim had no rights or protection from the man being protected.
I am not for lynch mobs normally, but this man could be better served by the victims and upset citizens.
The concept that justice will be served would require life sentence or the death penalty for the officer!!
Anything else is a slap on the wrist, and a pat on the butt.
January 29th, 2009 at 12:34 am
Am I the only one that knows how this could have happened? You guys are dolts, the taser and the gun are very similar in shape. They also happen to be very close on the belt. The guy didn’t wake up and say “Hey, I want to ruin my life and shoot some guy.” Wake up idiots, you complain about how ignorant people are, but fail to take your own advice. You are no better than the dolts in washington.