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Expert: Hamas Will Defeat Israel in Gaza
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Infowars
January 3, 2008
Khaled Hroub, author of several books on Hamas, including Hamas: A Beginner’s Guide, talked with Al Jazeera about Hamas and why he believes the IDF ground invasion — now underway — will be a failure.
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Hroub believes Israel’s much trumpeted assassination of Abdel Aziz al-Rantissi, co-founder of Hamas, and Ahmed Yassin, the the spiritual leader of Hamas, does not effectively weaken the organization. This is likely the case as well with the recent assassination of Nizar Rayyan, a senior Hamas leader. “I can’t see Hamas being weakened by killing one or two or three or even more leaders in the Gaza Strip,” said Hroub. “Hamas’ leaders are very used to hiding and escaping Israeli attacks. I can’t see this affecting Hamas much.”
Hamas’ strength, according to the expert, is derived from its broad social and political base in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Its leadership is decentralized between Gaza, the West Bank, and beyond. “This kind of power of decentralization of Hamas makes the whole movement stronger in terms of not caging the leadership in one single area, and because of this they keep producing leaders from the third and second rankings to the highest echelons of the movement,” the author explains.
Israel will fail to break the back of Hamas by targeting its leadership. It appears Hamas has taken a few lessons from Lebanon’s Hezbollah in this regard. “Hezbollah uses a decentralized command structure that allows its subordinate leaders to exercise a high degree of initiative on the battlefield,” notes the Middle East Strategy at Harvard. “Similarly, if other guerrilla groups successfully emulate Hezbollah’s model, they too will be much more difficult adversaries on the battlefield.”
“The amorphous Hezbollah, led by Hassan Nasrallah represents a rising threat,” explains Frank Hoffman, a retired Marine infantry officer and a graduate of the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, George Mason University, and the U.S. Naval War College. “Mixing an organized political movement with decentralized armed cells employing adaptive tactics in ungoverned zones, Hezbollah affirms an emerging trend. Highly disciplined, well trained, distributed cells can contest modern conventional forces with an admixture of guerrilla tactics and technology in densely packed urban centers.”
It appears Hamas has adopted this new posture and is anxious to confront the IDF on the ground on its own terrain. In Syria, Hamas leader-in-exile, Khaled Meshaal, warned Israel that it would face a “black destiny” if it launched a ground offensive on Gaza. “Speaking publicly for the first time since Israeli air strikes started a week ago, he said Hamas resistance and infrastructure were intact,” the BBC reports.
“I can’t see any success, strategically speaking, on the side of the Israeli aggression,” Mr. Hroub continues. “That is because Israel declared that their one main objective is to disarm Hamas and stop rockets from being launched from the Gaza Strip. Even after one month of this aggression, if one single rocket was launched from the Gaza Strip this means the whole Israeli strategy has failed.”
Hroub says the Israeli ground offensive, now underway, will not accomplish its objectives. “If any land incursion takes place into the Gaza Strip, I think this makes the whole Israeli strategy even more difficult. Everybody knows that Hamas is well-entrenched now in the Gaza Strip because they have a network of tunnels — they hide very well. And maybe even they hope that at one point this Israeli land invasion takes place so that they can deal the Israeli army some strong defensive attacks.”
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Israel understands the importance of Hamas’ tunnel system and has attempted to destroy it. “Israel has bombed supply tunnels in the southern Gaza Strip in a second day of intense air raids aimed at forcing Hamas militants to halt rocket fire,” the BBC reported on December 28. “A major tunnel bringing fuel into Gaza from Egypt was among three destroyed, Palestinians say. But Israel says its jets bombed more than 40 tunnels.”
“One can tell of so many lessons Hamas has learned from the experience of Hezbollah in the summer of 2006,” Khaled Hroub continues. “First of all, this tunnel strategy that has taken place in the Gaza Strip, secondly even the sloganeering and rhetoric — rather than producing threats that they can’t match, what they are doing and what they are saying is something they can achieve.”
Hroub told Al Jazeera that Hamas’ “unseen and unknown capabilities within the Gaza Strip” have made Israel reluctant to launch a ground invasion. Obviously, Israel’s military establishment has swept these considerations aside, as it did when Israel invaded Lebanon, suffering a defeat at the hands of Hezbollah. In that campaign, Israel failed in its stated objective — to destroy Hezbollah and eliminate its arsenal or rockets.
“In my view, Hamas will most likely emerge victorious out of this because on the one hand, it’s akin to impossible to eradicate Hamas from the Gaza Strip,” notes Hroub. “I can’t imagine any way of finishing this movement in the Gaza Strip. Even if it was finished, what we’d end up with is a more radical Palestinian organization, an al-Qaeda-like organization coming out of the rubble of Hamas’s destruction.”
Israel wants to impose “a clean and quiet occupation like they achieved in the West Bank,” but this now impossible in Gaza, especially with Israel’s brutal treatment of the Palestinians. In the Gaza Strip, the radicalization of the Palestinians is especially acute after months of an imposed blockade on food and medical supplies compounding decades of iron-fisted occupation.
According to Hroub, the developing war in Gaza is partly designed to restore the invincibility image of Israel, an image badly tarnished during the invasion of Lebanon in 2006. “So it’s a war of image on the side of the Israeli army, their image was destroyed in summer 2006 and now they want to restore that image and that name.”
If Hamas has indeed adopted the tactics of Hezbollah, this restoration of image may be impossible. It appears Israel will be forced to eventually negotiate with Hamas, an organization elected as the representative of the Palestinians.
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January 3rd, 2009 at 5:17 pm
WW3 Has Begun! Bible Prophecy in unfolding. Seek the Lord God today.
http://www.tribulation2008.com
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:19 pm
nothing really new here……this is going on 70 years now……most people that were starting s*it back then are dead now….so what is ever going to change? absolutely nothing……better off to stay out of it and let them decimate each other……oh wait, America!…THERE’S MONEY TO MADE!!!
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Bush stays in office!
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:21 pm
They could just flatten the whole thing and tell them to go live in Egypt. War will be won. Personally i don’t like Palestinians or the Israeli’s.
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:24 pm
On December 7, 1938, Ben Gurion, the first head of the Zionist ’state of Israel’ declared “If I knew it was possible to save all the children in Germany by taking them to England, and only half of the children by taking them to Eretz Israel, I would choose the second solution. For we must take into account not only the lives of these children but also the history of the people of Israel.”
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Do Zionist really care about their kids or anyone elses?
Or is this some kind of sacrifice of the lambs?
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Is this the crisis?
Draw up to a war with iran at the end of the month?
israel is disgusting. and the hypocricy from the ‘western goverments’ who yelled and scremed blue murder at russia stay silent.
this is leading to something. we had the “xmas reprive” now they go into 2009 headlong with clear direction of where they want it to go.
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Yeh! and barry obama is a conservative! PREPAIR TO HAVE YOUR BRAINS TAXED OUT by the obama kabal!
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:52 pm
what happens if they lose, there image would be even more tarnished. Are they going to react like a small child and throw a temper-tantrum. Which brings me to my next question, what does a nuclear powered child like Israel do when it’s ego has been crushed?
January 3rd, 2009 at 6:33 pm
There you have the BIG CRISIS Joey Biden promised a few months ago for Obama s coronation on Jan 20. This fighting will go on for the next wekks and when Obama is prez something else will happen. Maybe they will “discover” Iranian weapons in Gaza or they might set a Paki nuke off in Gaza (think of Call of Duty 4 predictive programming).
Oh my God, this is all so insane! f--- it all!!!
January 3rd, 2009 at 6:36 pm
religion is racist crap; its propaganda used to control… juddism is a perfect example of racist, religous bigotry. The truly sick passage in their “story” is when their god tells the jews that god is giving the land and worth of a different people to them, all they have to do is slaughter the people and claim all their property. which they do. now them,,,,,,,, how can any person of conscious accept and give respect to this…… this is sick preverted thought , expressed by the god of the jews.
January 3rd, 2009 at 6:38 pm
when will my fellow christians wake up and realize that israel is a terrorist regime that also kills christian palestinians with the same zeal that kills muslim palestinians. why should we support any regimes religion that teaches horrible things about jesus and the virgin mary. see “truth about the talmud” and set yourself free.
January 3rd, 2009 at 6:53 pm
“There you have the BIG CRISIS Joey Biden promised a few months ago for Obama s coronation on Jan 20. This fighting will go on for the next wekks and when Obama is prez something else will happen. Maybe they will “discover” Iranian weapons in Gaza or they might set a Paki nuke off in Gaza (think of Call of Duty 4 predictive programming).
Oh my God, this is all so insane! f--- it all!!!”
It could even be a wider war, with Iran, bombing pakistan as obama said he would, lebanon ect. the wider war would allow them to pass anything they want. anything.
Remeber those ‘unpopular descions’ biden said obama would make? i have a strong feeling there will be alot of those.
2009 has barely begun, its all bad from here on out.
January 3rd, 2009 at 7:03 pm
If this story title could only be true. Unfortunately the palestinians are way out gunned. Best of luck to ‘em.
January 3rd, 2009 at 7:04 pm
ZZZzz is rael got it’s ass kicked in Lebanon, and they ain’t gonna make that mistake twice.
If/when the Israelie army goes in, they will pave the way in with air power, and it will be a slam dunk. Israel 100, Hamas maybe 3.
The wars aginst Arabic Islam will end with victory for the forces of evil, ….or the wars will end when the Isralies can no longer find other nations to fund, and fight their wars from them.
January 3rd, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Some of the most disgusting people i have ever known claim to be Jewish ie Boxer Feinstein Schumer etc. They are Jewish in name only.I did not reject Christ because Hitler said he was a Christian ( like skull nand bones Bush) I will never reject Christ,for He is the only reason to even breath.God said that He would banish Israel ( 70 AD ) and reestablish them in the last days (1948) He uses Israel to teach us how to live and not to live.They are the example. They are far from perfect( will you throw the first stone ?), Gods plan is to to show all how evil that the heart of man is.He will save Israel in His time. Christians and grafted in to His olive tree. Do not reject His will, or you will be broken off and thrown out to be burned .All of you who hate Israel God curses you ( He said it not me ) Is there a question why your life is so horrible? Perhaps you should repent and seek Him before it is too late
January 3rd, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Israel will get there perverbial butts handed to them. Watch.
January 3rd, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Hezbollah will defeat Israel if it dare enter lebanon again, Hamas is no hezbollah because they are sunni but they can still do the job perhaps. Good luck to them in defeating the zionists dogs.
January 3rd, 2009 at 7:37 pm
The Palestinians are out gunned for sure, but take a look at other out gunned nations, such as Iraq and Vietnam. Modern armies just can’t cope with guerrilla tactics. They can’t win in the conventional sense (conquering the army) but they can drag it out so long that Israel can’t afford to fight any longer. They can also humiliate them by not allowing them to have a swift victory.
Unless someone is going to nuke you, out gunned means nothing. Will and tactics matter more. Modern armies are designed to fight modern armies not guerrillas.
January 3rd, 2009 at 7:38 pm
the sad truth is gaza is another WARSAW GETTO in the making ,where people died,and brave people died for the right to exist,and why did they fight the NAiZS because they were fighting to not be erased for the face of the earth by evil tyrants,simple people all though time do this when they see they have nothing to lose( THE ALOMO TEXAS) ( MASADA) ISREAL,(STALINGRADA)RUSSIA, THE WARSAW GETTO and in those battles the victims won why? they were remembered as noble simple people that fought agasint tranny history does not belong to the victors it belongs to those people who fought to the death for their freedoms just to live when all was lost as humanbeings and their oppressors are just foot notes in history as evil tyrants thats facts,when you kill armed forces that is a battle,but when you kill( WOMEN AND CHILDERN ) thats GENOCIDE a horse of a differant color and every person on this planet will see the truth for what it is. why did it all start will no food and medicine being allowed in to gaza or goods soap,toiletpaper nothing a blockade of everything what would anyone do? left to die in a deathcamp stituation thats humanity? no way after of 60 yrs of being treated like animals by these people that are (GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE) ISREAL the zoinist must know they are digging their own doom the world will judge them and even their own GOD will leave them for every person carries that in them all their lives and all peoples remember good deeds as well as evil deeds and the dead do speak in the hearts of humanity and(WE ALL WILL REMEMBER THIS EVIL) the whole world, and these zionist have cursed themslevs to the hearts of all good peoples, even good jewish people you see the very few that are causing these wars are a minority in isreal and in america and everyone the little people are always the victims on both sides.thats a fact! MAY GOD PROTECT US ALL FROM THIS EVIL BUNCH.
January 3rd, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Of course he thinks Israel can’t win, he’s a Muslim that talks to Al-Jazeera. You don’t think they’d be all-over a Jew speaking about genocide of the Arabs, do you?
Of course, it’s not like the rest of the Muslim world REALLY cares about Palestine; more like they hate the Jews. Yeah, I think they hate the Jews.
You’d think that at least Iraq would support Israel as we paid for Iraq: http://mediacondom.com/?p=505
January 3rd, 2009 at 7:44 pm
No one wins this. More children die and the hate marchs on till the end of time.
January 3rd, 2009 at 7:48 pm
i think there is some truth to this article because despite the lopsided advantage israell has, hamas will be defending from cluttered neighborhoods. this can be compared to the US invading Iraq. superior force, but the nature of the fighting (urban guerrilla fighting) was new. however, israel’s rules of engagement in gaza might help eliminate that advantage.
either way im very surprised at the amount of seething hatred towards israel instantly on this site. most people on this site have no idea about the long history of these conflicts in the middle east, especially israel. its a blind hatred of israel with people on this site simply because their intel agency was implicated in some loose change movies.
do these “death to israel” people feel the same about america now because the CIA was implicated in 9/11 as well?
im not denying the possibilities here, but Hamas spawning from the Muslim Brotherhood is not concrete evidence that the group is “directed by british and israeli intelligence.” compelling but not solid.
the only concrete evidence we have is Hamas did in fact fire some bottle rockets, and israel responded severly, and the death toll is very high on the palestinian side.
January 3rd, 2009 at 8:00 pm
what has this author been smoking? There is not a chance in hell that hamas or hezbollah will ultimately triumph over Israel.
January 3rd, 2009 at 8:42 pm
jerry Says:
January 3rd, 2009 at 8:00 pm
what has this author been smoking? There is not a chance in hell that hamas or hezbollah will ultimately triumph over Israel.
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I believe he has been smoking a truth drug!, and lots of it
The jewish scum, cannot win a guerrilla war, no matter how much funding they get from th US
if you do not realise this yourself, then you have never served in the military and your opinion on battlefield tactics is void and irrelevent.
or maybe your just a stupid : )
January 3rd, 2009 at 8:45 pm
jerry Says:
January 3rd, 2009 at 8:00 pm
what has this author been smoking? There is not a chance in hell that hamas or hezbollah will ultimately triumph over Israel.
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I believe he has been smoking a truth drug!, and lots of it
The jewish scum, cannot win a guerrilla war, no matter how much funding they get from th US
if you do not realise this yourself, then you have never served in the military and your opinion on battlefield tactics is void and irrelevent.
or maybe your just a stupid : )
jews are terrorists
and support a terrorist regime
THIS IS FACT!
January 3rd, 2009 at 8:45 pm
That is a lovely picture of hezbollah it is now my desktop background.
January 3rd, 2009 at 8:54 pm
This article is wrong about one thing, there’s a way to nearly wipe out the Hamas moment in the Gaza strip and that is none other than a nuke.
Israel most likely will use it and it’ll be there that Iran will step up. Of course Russia and China will come along.
January 3rd, 2009 at 8:57 pm
To nailbomber #27……………… Nope, never served in the military and my comments are based entirely on what my bible says about Israel’s enemies. So, before you go off again claiming what guerillas can and cannot do, keep in mind what GOD has to say about it. While you are conjuring up a comeback, GOD’s word is true whether we believe it or not. the only logical response you can come back with is you don’t believe in GOD or what the bible has to say about israel. That, i can fully appreciate and understand. not everyone does believe. time will ultimately tell how this all plays out.
January 3rd, 2009 at 9:04 pm
their being starved. what would you do? #17 no one hates israel well… at least i don’t but i don’t hate the palestinians either. matter a fact i side with people of all nations who have been trampled underfoot by religious wars. as for saving gods people of israel thats gods job so don’t you worry becuz if thats what your book says and you believe it then you have nothing to worry about now do you?
January 3rd, 2009 at 9:12 pm
the Palestinians have a border with Egypt.
why don’t the Egyptians help them out with supplies.
why blame Israel for their shortcomings.
the Muslim world could take care of them and the hostilities could end…
aren’t they brother Muslims???
January 3rd, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Hey Brett, I love to see voices of sanity on this site so I know I am not alone. All you Israel haters are buying into Palestinian propaganda. And the one who argued that Gaza is a “Warsaw Ghetto” needs a lesson in history. First off, the Palestinians are not one race of people. They are Arabs from all different Arab countries. Everywhere they’ve lived they have turned into a ghetto, because that’s the way they roll. Their leaders keep them in perpetual ignorance of true history, pump them full of hateful propaganda, tell them lie upon lie about the Jews, and ultimately create an army of MANCHURIAN candidates (hate-filled drones) who will do whatever their leaders tell them, including using their own wives and children as human shields. Hamas is a death cult. All Muslim terror groups are dealth cults. Islam is a religion of murder, death, and deception. And Mohammed was a pedophile, a liar, and a murderer.
One must go back to ancient history to know the truth about who the land belongs to. It belongs to the 12 tribes of Israel, Jacob’s descendants. God gave the Arabs the lands east of Israel. They now have over twenty countries, and the Jews only one. Pretty lopsided. But the Arabs love to paint themselves as the underdog to gain the world’s sympathies. It’s all a sham.
There will be victory ultimately, but it won’t be a political one. Jesus, the Messiah, is coming back to Israel to restore order and peace in the land and to destroy all enemies of righteousness, life and liberty from the earth. Don’t believe this? Read the Prophet Ezekiel, chapters 37-39, and Matthew 24. The Jews have returned to their ancient homeland according to prophecy and according to the covenant God made with Abraham and to his seed, Isaac and Jacob and their descendants forever. If you fight against this and in any way support those who wage war against the Jewish people, you will find yourself fighting against God. I didn’t say that, God said that! Read the Bible.
January 3rd, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Chat room setup just for the discussion of the GAZA ground attack for the peeps of Prison Planet Forum memers but open to all…..
For all infowarriors, activists and prison planet forum members….. No registration
http:globalcordon.com
January 3rd, 2009 at 9:32 pm
I think it will end up in a big “DRAW” both sides will suffer loses like it was in Libanon and history will reapat itself like before and UN will be the in action again…
I dont think Isreal wants to win that war if u goolge or yahoo for this words ” Hamas Star of David ” u find a picture of Hamas how is wearing a Star of David that is becouse Mossad did infiltrate them same reason why they where able to take out the guys in command so quickly. Isreal needs enemys it has no real interrest to “beat” them or win completly over them becouse that is a war that can just be won by one thing and that is called genocite and no side would take that ultimative step becouse it would trigger a reaction none of both side wants.
But my quesiton is do Hamas maybe try to lure the IDF into one Battle so Hezzbolah can open a second fron in the north and the Muslims inside of Isreal would uprise too? I think the Ortodox Jews would then take a chance vs the staate of Isreal too how crashed lots of Settings from ther community. Then the IDF would stand a ultimative Challenge. That is how i would do it when i would be a enemy of Isreal. But fact is the IDF can mobilise up to 1,4 million if needed so maybe ther will be a great war coming to us?
But what i dont understand if the “Grip” of the Jewish state is so tight over gaza where do they get that amount of Rockets and other Arms into a place that is as small as Berlin? Can anyone explain that to me?
January 3rd, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Golda Meir remarked in 1957: “Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.” I’m thinking that humanitarian observation should now give a few Israelis pause for reflection a half a century later.
January 3rd, 2009 at 9:43 pm
it will be real nice watching these racist pig israelite scum get thier butts kicked by palestinians. Im just gonna eat me a big ol greasy PORKchop and watch as it happens. bwahahaha. It would be nice to see iran form a pincer attack and smash israel too. Hey scum you kill gods prophets and his son jesus. to hell with you!
January 3rd, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Israelis are murderous neocon fascists who have destroyed the integrity of U.S. politicians with bribary and the economy of the U.S. through their Jewish bretheren in the Fed Reserve and the U.S. Treasury, Paulson, a JEW. They were directly involved in 911 and are responsible for thousands of Americans deaths including the USS Liberty, LET”S NOT FORGET!!!!! So for you Israel lovers out there who condone this mass murdering of innocent civilians in Gaza much the same as the mass murdering of innocent civilians in IRAQ, you can GO STRAIGHT TO HELL which is where the AMERICAN people will send you once the Israeli corrupted U.S. politicians are expelled. Wars serve their Ashkenazi Jewish masters and we know who they are. Israel’s are cowards and can’t stand on their own feet without the U.S. behind them.
January 3rd, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Its sad because yes it us a holy war but they’re both suffering huge losses and I don’t understand why. They share a father. They’re half brothers . Doesnt that mean anything? And just because the land belonged to the Jews does that mean tnat Palestinians born and raised there should be thrown off there home? No that’s rediculous. There religious views have been forgotten over the yes because if u love god… That should be more than enough reason for peace.
January 3rd, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Pity the poor white man. There is no race on Earth so out of touch with reality, so unable to see his own folly. There are so among you so demented as to not only believe that there are aliens, but that you are aliens. This is an expression of your complete detachment from and caring for this planet.
“America” is not now, nor was it ever, yours.
You conquered the lands of beautiful, relatively peaceful people, destroyed their forests, all but used up, then polluted their natural resources perhaps beyond redemption – and don’t have the sense to understand that it’s payback time.
You “patriots” didn’t “wake up to the NWO” until it began to interefere with their partying schedule.
You never so much as nod as the Indigenous people in all your bellyaching about the NWO.
And you have the unmitigated gall to criticize Israel.
D2
January 3rd, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Reading Khaled Hroub’s account here at infowars, makes me want to read some of his books on Hamas. Thanks, Alex Jones and staff. You did the right thing.
January 3rd, 2009 at 10:23 pm
#40=another deranged liberal self hating apologist. By YOUR weak argument, the “white men” now living are somehow responsible for all of this world’s ills? That’s not just baseless, it’s pathetic. The “white men” now living are somehow responsible for the evils of past generations?! That’s more than absurd!
If not for “white men” past, and present, the world would have none of the technologies YOU yourself enjoy. Think about this, would Tee Pee living Indians have invented the airplane, how about the telephone? How about vaccines? Would the nomads of Africa have ever developed an infrastructure? ANSWER…NO! Until Europeans arrived in these “paradises” they never saw a wheel. They lived in mud huts, and some still do. Think of nearly every invention for the betterment of mankind, and the overwhelming odds are…a “WHITE MAN” invented it.
So if you feel so badly for the poor abused non-whites of the world, go live with them for a while, just don’t take anything invented by a “WHITE MAN”, you would’nt want to be any more of a hypocrate than you already are!
God bless us all…everyone!
P.S. A “white man” invented the personal computer, the precursor to the very one you used to post your hypocritcal comment!
January 3rd, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Another quick comment, why do so few of the posters here proof read their comment for errors before they post it? Are they aware that they appear semi-literate? Therefore they automatically discredit their argument.
Just an observation, i’m sure many of you might agree, at least secretly!
January 3rd, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Sam Adam.
You really believe that the Jews are the “chosen” people and all else are here to serve them, do you? Only a Jew would try to convince others that he was better than you and other!!! Real Hocus pocus–Wizard of Oz.
I would rather be a suicide bomber than a slave to the Jews. It just sounds Hollier than the other.
January 3rd, 2009 at 10:43 pm
An old warrior named Geronimo once warned not to trust White-eye.
January 3rd, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Israel is sending its sons on a suic.ide mission. They clearly understand that Hamas’ brutal victory will lead to the destabilization of the middle east and ultimately to the destruction of the already fragile western economies. The same tactic was used by surrendering their own not too long ago… When they make sacrifices in blood, pay attention – the true power of Yaweh will be felt around the world. In the months ahead, be pious. Very pious.
January 3rd, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Rusty,
“white man” has lost his way and lost his favor from God, The Great Spirit. In so doing man has marveled at simple devices and made gods out of these devices. When the device breaks, man throws it away and finds a new god/device to replace it. Anything that gives man a sense of power is dangerous. All those devices have left major scars on the Earth, en slaved human beings, further added corruption, poisoned good water and made whores out of indigenous villages.
But hey, I hear they are comming out with a new Ipod that will stroke your mind to infinity! Yeah!
January 3rd, 2009 at 11:11 pm
Hey Doreen #40. I can understand what your saying in a way. I have Blackfoot in my bloodline. The fact is alot of people, for instance, the spaniards in particular had a hand in the massacre of the indian people too and really can’t be blamed on anyone here. That was also the elite of those times doing those things. Yes, I do wish I would have woke up a long time ago but I was brainwashed and programed just like much of the population. I just thank the divine spirit I did wake up in time to help others wake up too. We really need to stop fighting and arguing amongst each other becausd thats exactly what the elitists want us to do. Divide and conquer is they’re tactic. We need to come together and wake others up and not judge them for something they can’t control because this is going to get a lot worse and we are going to need each other to bring the elite down.
January 3rd, 2009 at 11:24 pm
totally off topic wtf is going on in yellowstone and indonesia. e-quakes and big.
January 3rd, 2009 at 11:31 pm
Hamas resists… Hamas goes down in flames, simple as that. Any questions? All you “talkers” are hereby dared to suit up and go stand in the ranks of Hamas as the Israeli Army splatters them all across the countryside…
January 3rd, 2009 at 11:38 pm
If israel somehow gets most of the civilians out.I think they can win.But hamas like most terrorist groups.Use gorilla wafare=coward warfare.And they hide arround innocent people.
January 3rd, 2009 at 11:38 pm
Kick ass and take names, nothing like a good old fashion gorilla war against a superior force. Good luck, Jim.
These men pictured dont look like gun men, they are case hardened troupers, Isreal calls them militants, but they look like soldier’s of Isreals mis-fortune. If Isreal loses face and ass’s like they did in Lebenon, the tables will turn. this maybe the turning point to a forced peace. if they over run Isreal and breach the walls. then Isreal is in big trouble, Hey Russia throw some real equipment, to the Palistinians, like you did in Viet Nam, to help equal the playing feild, let the games begain. Let the rightious win, and the unjust hang. I am neutral, just like to see a good fight. We will see who is more pissed off then the other. its like a animal pushed into the corner with nowere to go but through the one who boxed them in. hope they finish up before the Sabbath dinner. next friday, yea right.
January 3rd, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Rock on
January 3rd, 2009 at 11:43 pm
It’s Time We Were Frank About “Palestine”
Both the Jews and the Arabs were set up for war by the Rothschild-controlled British Mandate. In that sense, the “Palestinian” people are innocent.
But their claims to antiquity in Israel are utterly false and the truth must be known.
We must build peace on truth and it is simply not true that there was a “Palestinian” culture in Israel from antiquity.
Did you know that the word “Palestine” comes from the Semitic radical p-l-s or f-l-s or p-l-sh, or f-l-sh which means invader, squatter, intruder? That’s what the “Palestinians” call themselves: invaders, squatters, intruders.
Here are some quotes about “Palestine”. I invite you all to vet the quotes for yourselves:
In 1738 Thomas Shaw observed a land of “barrenness…. from want of inhabitants.”
In 1785 Constantine Francois de Volney recorded the population of the three main cities: Jerusalem had a population of 12,000 to 14,000; Bethlehem had about 600 able-bodied men; and Hebron had 800 to 900 men (Note: The majority of both the Jerusalem and Hebron populations were Jews).
In 1835 Alphonse de Lamartine wrote, “Outside the city of Jerusalem, we saw no living object, heard no living sound. . .a complete eternal silence reigns in the town, in the highways, in the country . . . The tomb of a whole people.”
In 1857, the British consul in Palestine, James Finn, reported, “The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is that of a body of population.”
Mark Twain, who visited Israel in 1867, described it in “Innocents Abroad” as: “…a desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds – a silent mournful expanse… A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action… We never saw a human being on the whole route…There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere. Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of the worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.”
In 1874, Reverend Samuel Manning wrote: “But where were the inhabitants? This fertile plain, which might support an immense population, is almost a solitude…. Day by day we were to learn afresh the lesson now forced upon us, that the denunciations of ancient prophecy have been fulfilled to the very letter — `the land is left void and desolate and without inhabitants.’”
As late as 1880, the American consul in Jerusalem reported the area was continuing its historic decline. “The population and wealth of Palestine has not increased during the last forty years,” he said.
The report of the Palestine Royal Commission quotes an account of the Maritime Plan in 1913:
“The road leading from Gaza to the north was only a summer track suitable for transport by camels and carts…no orange groves, orchards, or vineyards were to be seen until one reached (the Jewish village of) Yabna (Yavne)… Houses were all of mud. No windows were anywhere to be seen… The ploughs used were of wood… The yields were very poor… The sanitary conditions in the village were horrible. Schools did not exist… The western part, towards the sea, was almost a desert… The villages in this area were few and thinly populated. Many ruins of villages were scattered over the area, as owing to the prevalence of malaria and many villages were deserted by their inhabitants.”
Lewis French, the British Director of Development in the 1930s, wrote of Israel:
“We found it inhabited by fellahin who lived in mud hovels and suffered severely from the prevalent malaria… Large areas…were uncultivated… The fellahin, if not themselves cattle thieves, were always ready to harbor these and other criminals. The individual plots…changed hands annually. There was little public security, and the fellahin’s lot was an alternation of pillage and blackmail by their neighbors, the Bedouin.”
These quotes give an unbroken picture of a land unused, unloved and virtually uninhabited for a span of 200 years. It only became “home” to the so-called Palestinians after Jordan lost the West Bank & Jerusalem and Egypt lost the Gaza Strip to Israel in 1967, in a war that those states prepared for and advertised their intent of “driving the Jews into the sea”. Strangely enough, while Egypt and Jordan occupied them, they were never called “occupied territories”.
Let’s see what Joseph Farrah, the Arab-American journalist, editor and CEO of WorldNetDaily has to say:
“In the Six-Day War, Israel captured Judea, Samaria and East Jerusalem. But they didn’t capture these territories from Yasser Arafat. They captured them from Jordan’s King Hussein. I can’t help but wonder why all these Palestinians suddenly discovered their national identity after Israel won the war.
“The truth is that Palestine is no more real than Never-Never Land. …Palestine has never existed…as an autonomous entity. It was ruled alternately by Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the Ottoman Empire and, briefly, by the British after World War I. The British agreed to restore at least part of the land to the Jewish people as their homeland.”
Other Arab persona, including high-ranking PLO members, have been quoted:
When the first congress of Muslim-Christian associations met in Jerusalem in February 1919 to choose “Palestinian” representatives for the Paris Peace Conference, the following resolution was adopted: “We consider ‘Palestine’ as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic, and geographical bonds.”
In 1937, a local Arab leader, Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, told the Peel Commission, which ultimately suggested the partition of Israel: “There is no such country! ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria.”
In 1946, Princeton’s Arab professor of Middle East history, Philip Hitti, told the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry: “It’s common knowledge, there is no such thing as Palestine in history.”
The representative of the Arab Higher Committee to the United Nations submitted a statement to the general assembly in May 1947 that said “‘Palestine’ was part of the province of Syria” and that, “politically, the Arabs of Israel were not independent in the sense of forming a separate political entity.”
On May 31, 1956, Ahmed Shukairy had no hesitation, as current head of the Palestine Liberation Organization, in announcing to the Security Council the observation, “It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria.”
Syrian President Hafez Assad told Yasser Arafat on March 8, 1974, “You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian People, there is no Palestinian entity; there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people. Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people.”
In March 1977, Zahir Muhsein, an executive member of the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), said in an interview to the Dutch newspaper Trouw: “The ‘Palestinian people’ does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel.”
So, you see, by your own admission, there never was a “Palestinian people”, just the descendants of the invaders, squatters and intruders that were brought into Israel by the British Mandate.
There is no archaeological evidence for Palestinians cities. It cannot be said that Israel destroyed any such evidence because the archaeological teams are always international.
There is no specifically Palestinian Arabic.
There is no specifically Palestinian culture.
By the admission of the people who call themselves invaders, squatters, intruders there never was a “Palestinian” people prior to the British Mandate. It was during that time that the Rothschild family put pressure on the French government, which controlled the Arab areas around Israel to flood Israel with Arabs, thus upsetting the delicate demographic balance and setting the Jews and Arabs up for war.
D2
January 3rd, 2009 at 11:46 pm
What is happening in Gaza is an obscenity! It is an indictment of the whole Western World which allows this cruel and brutal Israeli regime to do whatever it wants.
It is an indictment of America which arms it and blocks every attempt to censure it. Like a cancer, Israel keeps growing. Eventually the world will have to cut it out but by then we might well be involved in nuclear warfare and nothing will survive!
Stop Israeli madness before it’s too late!
http://www.dangerouscreation.com
January 3rd, 2009 at 11:54 pm
we have heard many times, since obama was elected, that he was going to give military aid to israel. now we know why. the israel invasion of gaza was funded and supported by the US and English governments. Death to the US, English, and Israeli governments!
#51 – guerilla warfare is not cowardly. WE THE PEOPLE used it against the english in 1775 to gain our independence. you talk about cowardly, do you? i believe the US military is full of pussy’s. u bunch of winers demand to have bullet proof vests in order to fight an inferior opponent. i have the article to prove it:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....body_armor
January 4th, 2009 at 12:03 am
42 you share in 40’s derangement. I guess technology is the “white man’s” domain. “Until Europeans arrived in these “paradises” they never saw a wheel” – your joking right? Let me stop kidding myself, your serious.
It is apparent you both have an axe to grind, no brother, we can let you indulge in your tribalistic fantasies of the glorious, triumphant past when civilization was born.
But, anyway let’s give thanks to:
the white men for giving us natives civilization, the bible, and the PC.
the “others” (non-white men, of course) for reminding us, how much we need the technology of the white men.
There is one thing “he” hasn’t invented yet – the cure for tribalism….
January 4th, 2009 at 12:08 am
DonS (#47)…I wasn’t aware there were so many “native Amerikans” here, “great spirit”? I also wasn’t aware that an aircraft was a “simple device”, nor the telephone.
BTW it’s the whole world, not just “the white man” who is out of favor with God. So stop hating on my proud race! The real enemy of the world is Satan!, and no matter what your belief, you can’t argue that!
January 4th, 2009 at 12:14 am
#51 says”gorilla wafare=coward warfare”. Hey ass wipe, this is how the 13 Colonies, kicked the Britts ass, and created one of the most powerful countrys in the world, and your comment, “And they hide arround innocent people” what are they supposed to do, dance around with a day-glow target stuck to their ass, waving thier arms. screaming. I’m here, My answer to you is your nieve as well as absurd, mingling in crowds has been a time tested way of extracting yourself in warfare with a superior force. Spys use this shielding method all the time. Now I guess you think shooting men to death with jets tanks, takes balls, let the Isrealys go toe to toe, troup bo troup, with out the rolling steel or flying courage, or back up, then can you assert cowardice. your ignorance has been catalogued.
January 4th, 2009 at 12:15 am
OMG… #51 “wastelandsoldier”. Did you really type “gorilla warfare”? It’s spelled “guerrilla,or guerilla”, but not “GORILLA”. I bet you’re an Obango he-boon! You semi-literate pin-head! You should be envious of a Gorilla, they are no doubt more intelligent than you!
January 4th, 2009 at 12:19 am
the arabs don’t have enough land in the middle east.
the jews are hogging it all.
if the jews would just give some to the arabs, then there wouldn’t be a problem…
January 4th, 2009 at 12:20 am
a war of image —
G.B.Shaw’s thoughts on Vivisection were collected in a book, in which he asked, roughly (from memory) “If you chop off a paw each time a dog comes for affection, how many times will it come back?”
January 4th, 2009 at 12:37 am
http://www.informationclearing.....e21634.htm
Here is your tax dollars America
January 4th, 2009 at 12:38 am
I forgot to mention Isreal hides behind the crowd know as the United States, and Its Zionest controlled Media, they suck on the necks of tax payers, taking our money, over a trillion dollars gives nothing in return (Except Holly Wood) while paying off or politicians, with our own money, enables them to control our policys. The Games up, we see the truth, that was hiddin until you pushed to far.
January 4th, 2009 at 12:51 am
GO HAMAS………kick those corrupt zionist genocide loving bastards out of the Middle East and send them back to the corrupt Queen and Rothchilds in England….HAMAS DOMINANCE ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 4th, 2009 at 1:06 am
Guerrilla warfare is the only way we can win or the palestinaians can win. The only way. Hopefully iran will step up too.
January 4th, 2009 at 1:13 am
Here is the next pet in the “Barrak-a-kahn” “Black House”…
http://www.jollydwarf.com/html.....beet04.htm
January 4th, 2009 at 1:17 am
Hamas will win they have the heart! The zionist state will loose!
And im not an arab neither a jew!
GOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAMASSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
January 4th, 2009 at 1:17 am
IsraeLies days are numbered, but not before they start a scorched earth policy that will affect the entire region.
January 4th, 2009 at 1:30 am
I retarded out my self on the spelling stuff, what the f_ck
January 4th, 2009 at 1:35 am
roaddog Says:
January 4th, 2009 at 1:06 am
Guerrilla warfare is the only way we can win or the palestinaians can win. The only way. Hopefully iran will step up too.
Thats what they want is Iran to get involved, thats the idea.
January 4th, 2009 at 1:55 am
I’m rooting for Palestine, crush the infidels
January 4th, 2009 at 2:00 am
Spread out the cells, mixing them in with the civilian population. Yeah, it works, until someone comes along and says, f--- you. Kill them where they operate and civilian casualties be damned.
January 4th, 2009 at 2:26 am
See this video NOW, before YouTube takes it down AGAIN…
WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k8dGS7yo9o
January 4th, 2009 at 3:22 am
The video is also posted here away from the youtube “regulators”.
http://muslimtv.magnify.net/vi.....ANS-CHILDR
January 4th, 2009 at 3:50 am
since when does writing “several books” make someone an expert?
January 4th, 2009 at 3:55 am
Hey d2 #40;
Kiss my pale white ass; I don’t give a f--- you c---; the only time i have seen a f---ing indian is at the f---in casino so shut the f--- up ! I know israeli’s the richest one’s in the world personally; They are greedy jews who like to stiff people in business that’s it, they are not even all that religious/ Palestinians look just like jews you can’t tell them apart so f--- them all you race-baitin son of a bitch
January 4th, 2009 at 4:45 am
#54 (DEBD):
So what is the only conclusion that is possible considering all your info? Why can’t you make this final step yourself? o_O
IT IS THAT BOTH SIDES ARE CONTROLLED AND PALESTINIANS ARE FUNDED, SHEPHERDED AND MANIPULATED INTO THE POSITION THEY HAVE TODAY, JUST AS THE ISRAELIS. This has been demonstrated in the articles on infowars, on the AJ show and it has been mentioned by various folks in their comments.
Come on, it can’t be that hard!
But thanks anyway for putting together that info.
January 4th, 2009 at 5:03 am
WOW you see that? looks like a good start but they didn’t get them all. We better send some US troops to help Israel.
January 4th, 2009 at 5:06 am
Elijah Reingold Says f--- you and your fammily, your dumb pice of racist f---, i hope you die an horible slow and painful death, and yeah your mama suck discks in hell, I dump my ass in your direction
January 4th, 2009 at 5:09 am
Mr. NIX yes pls. send more we need fresh infedel meat for the grinder
January 4th, 2009 at 5:10 am
well, the quote from Dr. Pappe’s book that I tried to post twelve times a couple of weeks ago still won’t make it thru the (presumably automatic) censor. Who knows why!
But you can buy the book at Amazon (The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Ilan Pappe) and you can read my 13-times rejected post at LostPostsFromInfowars. It’s the top post over there.
January 4th, 2009 at 5:27 am
Israel has been more than patient with this Islamo Fashist rocket launching sh_t.
The IDF knows how to take care of business and they have the green light this time out, not like in Lebanon II. Just watch the events as HAMAS CRASHES AND BURNS.
January 4th, 2009 at 5:44 am
Hopefully Hamas’ friends continue to dig tunnels on the other side.
And if the rumours are true that ‘abu mazen’ has administered the poison to Arafat then it is definitely true that he wholeheartedly works with Israel now.
To make history as a paece maker and not as a cowardly assasin he will sign any peace deal that Israel offers.
Hopefully Hamas clears Gaza of the traiterous Fatah as well…
January 4th, 2009 at 5:55 am
Looking at their faces I see the American patriots who fought the British using guerrila warfare.
The Palestinians are the sons of liberty fighting the zionist Brits.
January 4th, 2009 at 6:09 am
It is now a fact. Infowars publishes on their own website a looser Hamas loving strategist who predicts a Hamas victory.
Free speech – OK.
But by publishing this on their own website, Infowars is siding against the evil American-Israeli-Zionist empire in order to lay in bed with islamofascist terrorists who stone young raped girls according to their Sharia law and adopt laws to crucify Christians and Jews.
Yes infowars, I see the truth now. Let’s oppose America, in order to rape pre-teen girls, then stone them and let’s also crucify Jews and Christians. Sounds like a good idea.
There is a war on your mind!
January 4th, 2009 at 6:09 am
Important intelligence information!
It has just come to my attention through informal intelligence contacts that the Israeli Mossad is developing a biological weapon finaNcially supported by the Rothchilds and other prominent Jews. The characteristics and implications of this weapon are sited below:
1.0 The weapon can determine who is Jewish by decoding DNA code sequence
2.0 When activated it will desTroy all non-Jews and meet the goals of the NWO and Protocols of Zion for a world consisting of only Jews.
3.0 Immediate action must be take to stop this event
PLEASE SUPPLY IDEAS TO STOP THIS CONSPIRACY FROM TAKING PLACE–THIS IS URGENT
January 4th, 2009 at 6:16 am
This is all out war and Israel will win make no mistale islamo-fashists and euro/us commie fellow travelers.
January 4th, 2009 at 6:45 am
Good morning RB… Yes, this fellow sounds like quite an expert.. Yep.. More like an expert on spreading hate.. Way to go Alex.. More credible material on your site. The foreign policy journal??????? Better known as the Anti Jew Journal?
January 4th, 2009 at 6:47 am
Excuse me, that was the last article I read. This one comes from Al Jizzeera. Way to go Alex.. Why not just put verses from the koran on the site. That’s obviously the next step right? Jesus..
January 4th, 2009 at 6:52 am
Love this article, for once i can read alternative news instead of the bious israeli controlled media reports.
January 4th, 2009 at 6:58 am
PLEASE watch this documentary on the Israel-Palestinian conflict. It’s called “Documentary: Occupation 101.”
Here is the link: http://video.google.com/videos.....mp;tab=wv#
I hope Alex Jones sees this documentary so he can discuss it on his show. The documentary pretty much interviews Historians and Activist about the Israel occupation and how it violates so many U.N. Laws. How does the U.N. allow 8,000 Jewish Settlers to displace over 1 Million Palestinians from their own land? This is apartheid at its finest. Why is the U.S. sending 2-3 Billion dollars a year to Israel? Why are Israel soldiers targeting women and children? Someone needs to address these issues.
PLEASE FORWARD THIS VIDEO TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW. THE MEDIA MANIPULATES INFORMATION AND CLAIMS ISRAEL IS PROTECTING THEMSELVES WHEN IN FACT THEY ARE THE AGGRESSOR. ALEX YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS DOCUMENTARY. THANKS LOVE THE SHOW AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
January 4th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Is it me or do hamas sound like the spartans.
January 4th, 2009 at 7:26 am
Why doesn’t Alex just give up the pretense of running a news site and just redirect surfers directly to a Hamas homepage?
Either Alex is a closet anti-Semite or he is a tool of the elite that likes to divide and conquer by perpetually stirring up the —-
Either way he’s doing a great disservice to the cause of restoring the constitution here.
January 4th, 2009 at 7:26 am
oh killing cilivans is righteous, it makes me sick.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3b3_1230864719
January 4th, 2009 at 7:35 am
The Israeli military exists in a comfortable cocoon of near invincibility on most of their operations. In remote controlled gun stations women in make up put down their cups of coffee to comfortably slaughter arabs in playstation style attacks. In the skies the IAF swans around at high altitude in designer shades dropping American smart bombs onto civilians while listening to rock music. Israeli tanks engage school children throwing rocks. Israeli snipers shoot children in the head between lunch breaks. The Israeli military is deliberately divorced from the reality of true conflict with an enemy that can fight back. This is why they always get their ass kicked when they emerge from their hardened bunkers and try to launch ground offenses. They are vermin and I hope they get killed in their hundreds this time by brave defenders who have little on their side but outdated weapons and the conviction that they are in the right, defending land stolen from them sixty years ago.
January 4th, 2009 at 8:03 am
I made an observation.
The other day my friend and I had a discussion on how we found out about infowars dot com. He said he saw on his $ paper money “INFOWARS.COM” written on both sides. The letters were written on the edges (the empty spaces) as to not deface the paper money, yet prominent enough to get the person to check it out. Incidentally I found out about infowars on £ paper money in the exact same way!
As I said, it’s just an observation and in no way am I saying people should be doing this.
January 4th, 2009 at 8:15 am
Only a righteous Israel will win in the end. As they stand now they are destined to loose for they they have blasphemed the sacred name of Gods people by their actions. Instead of being a blessing to all nations tongues and people they have they are rightly a hiss and a by word. Israel will be cleansed. As will this entire earth. The New World Order is the instrument God has allowed to do this. It is not God’s will to destroy but, he shall purify them by fire if needs be. The true Israel (who are those who will freely obey Gods will from all nations) will be refined in a refiners fire (This test earth) and shall come out of this earth experience as pure Gold in the end.
January 4th, 2009 at 8:34 am
ENGAGE THE INFORMATION WAR THAT WE’RE IN FOLKS. IT’S TIME 2 UNITE & FIGHT.
DON’T LET THESE NEO-SCUM-BLOOD-SUCKING-BASTARDS WIN !!!!!
POWER 2 THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, 4 THE PEOPLE
VIVA LA REVOLUTION ………………………….. MR ALEX JONES 4 EL PREZIDENTAY !!!!
January 4th, 2009 at 8:39 am
Israel using human fly spray again? WP Again?
January 4th, 2009 at 8:41 am
First; the Palestinians make me sick ’cause the people aren’t that nice/professional whiners and they voted in the folks who started this with the rockets. Those fat-ass ‘leaders’ enjoy luxury lives and are expecting ‘donations’ now from arab nations in liew of getting involved. For the next while they’ll make them,their troops and supporters feel like toughguys playing bang-bang and so on. And after some kinda ceasefire they can once again play the victim once the lopsided death toll no.’s make people forget about who started it, .. Second; the Jews are such a bunch of spoilt f---en arrogant pieces of s--- (of course forgiving the cute chicks) that I don’t logically get why they’re there, why the US is f---en supporting them till-the-end it would seem. Constantly building settlements on disputed land seems moronic unless you purposefully prevent a deal from being reached and it was, ahem, US donated aid money funneled into sleazy construction projects (huge profits, who cares if ya gotta tear ‘em down one day). Ah well…
January 4th, 2009 at 9:06 am
The article speaks of defeat as if Israel’s military will be defeated. It is possible, and a good chance, for Israel to lose their long term objective but militarily, Hamas has no chance if it goes head-to-head with IDF.
Personally, I would stop funding Israel and let them stand on their own two feet, we have our own problems to work out here at home (U.S.) that can put the money to use.
January 4th, 2009 at 9:22 am
please google occupation101 or visit their web occupation101.com it’s a good documentary film about the Palestinian problem. I can’t believe CNN thinks we are so stupid that they even put headlines that makes us think that Israel is the victim of this problem. We are human beings , we are not animals! , for the love of god if there is one!. Somebody stop this atrocities. We have to spread the love for humanity and end the corruption that is now killing innocent people .
January 4th, 2009 at 9:46 am
Anyone watching can see what’s going on. Let’s stop underwriting this burden called “Israel” and see how long they last..!!?
January 4th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Yah, I kinda figured I was more on the Israelli side ’cause they’re more like north americans(similar decadent interests, ha) but if all the Palestinians were wiped out I’d say ‘those f---en jews etc’ while if all Israel gets kablooey’d I’d get over it fairly soon, (like say, the Tsunamai thing I saw on tv awhile ago)… hmm, same thing with the palestinians actually, crap, ok, I’ll bet most folks don’t officially gives a s--- anymore. And yup, the Israeli’s should be more on their own from now on.
January 4th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Hey #34 if that was a virus you’re going to pay , maybe I’m wrong but I promise you if you put some s--- in my computer Alex has your ip you, and well you better tell me where the forum went, don’t click on that guys link it is bs. YOu have been warned.
January 4th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Face it, that no one over here knows what the hell is really going on over there, whether in this mess or any other mid-east country for that matter. This is perpetuated by keeping undemocratic leaders in power as long as they keep to the script. In Israel what they’ve been up to for so long seems unintelligent/unexplainable unless it involves unknown deals with those who weild US power, and therefore are responsible for making all Americans look bad worldwide. At the very least US aid donations accounting should be available online for all to verify. How about a catalogue of politicians etc who own property in the middle east, get ‘em to swear one way or another and such …
January 4th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Hey #42, stfu, as for the guy blaming me, a white guy, he can nibble on my nutsack, but as far as the facts of us not owning the land, completely 100% true, Yahweh owns the land, all of it, Land can never be permanently sold, ever! I think the guys makes a few points, but you are an idiot, I can do without your airplanes, your TSA, especially your vaccinnes you fool, and the television you love so much. I can do without all your technologies, and you obviously give mankind alot more credit than he deserves, you really think man invented all those things without the help of someone from above? Gimme a break! You claim a white man invented the computer? That just shows how stupid you are, really check yourself man, get off the flouride. And he wasn’t talking about the poor people, he was talking about the people who occupied and were the caretakers of this USA, the red-man, the ones that were driven off their lands and killed by your fathers std’s. I’d rather live with the red-man in his mud hut than to live with someone as stupid as you as my neighbor. You obviously know nothing about the history of the american indian.
The american indian was chased across the bering strait by the same catholic murderers with a cross in one hand and a sword in the other, if you would start with that fact and go from their then maybe you would be able to see the folly in your statements, but then again your brain is so full of holes and worms and std’s that I seriously doubt it’s possible for you to have a logical thought. You need something all indians know from birth,,,,a cleanse man, go clean your body because your brain is full of confusion (babylon), and you have but a short time to get it right!
And to the rest of you guys constantly saying that fighting against the jews is fighting God, get some brains, A jew is a jew and a Yahd is a Yahd, learn the difference people, Jews aren’t chosen, they chose themselves. The Yahdim of are no certain gene pool, color or nation, they have not been gathered together yet, and they don’t preach against the Laws of Yahweh, Kill, Bribe, Steal, Lie, cheat, use dishonest scales, nor are they Hypocrites. OHHHH YEAH don’t forget they don’t deny Yahshua Messiah, or his Fahter Yahweh, nor their true names!
How could a people who will kill you for using the name of the father, who deny the Messiah came, and who control the media so that they and our governments can get away with all they did on 911, and so many other things. I’m not saying all Jews are bad, no nation of people are bad, but the Yahdim will be chosen out of all nations, they are almost all sealed as of right now. When they are all sealed you will see the Nuclear Baby released and 1/3rd of mankind in and around the great river euphrates die! I’m so tired of seeing you guys who say read your bible, and then you say something stupid like Jesus is bringing peace, he said himself he isn’t bringing peace but a sword! He isn’t coming back until Nuclear war destroys all the governments of the world, and the Nuclear Baby is just the start, so when you see it go off, don’t come here and say AHHHH Now we have peace, there will be no peace until 4/5ths of all mankind is dead and all forms of life are on the virge of dying, then and only then will Yahweh step in, not before. So YOU go read your bible and try to remember that there is no “J” letter or “J” sound in the hebrew, there is no JEW in the bible either, that letter didn’t exist until about 1600, and that goes for you Jesus also people, seek out the father will all your heart, mind and soul instead of just reading a little until you find a verse to back up what you want to believe.
Almost all the verses you guys quote are out of context and the whole paragraph usually is speaking of something completely different. You confused people still can’t understand parables, and that is sad on your part, very sad.
I don’t think anyone here, except the false posters, the plants hate israel. I think we are just sick of bullies bullying the weak and poor. You don’t see any bullies trying to push around the nuclear nations now do you? No you see a nation ,,,a nuclear nation pushing around, starving and slowly suffocating a nation with large fireworks, very inaccurate fireworks I might add!
January 4th, 2009 at 11:24 am
place your bets everyone, I’ll give you 5000/1 odds if you take the palestenians!!!!
But guess what, personally I could really care less, Hamas has done something truly dumb this time round, with all that is going on in the worlds economy, the last thing on anyone mind is the conflict between israel and the west bank.
Yeah yeah yeah israel is oppressing the palestinian people and the palestinians are lobbing rockets at innocent civilians…….I get it, there both retarded.
The best part about it is, NO ONE GIVES A CRAP……… Israel is a known and established country that has taken a dessert and turned it into there own little haven. Has any of you ever been to israel you travel a mile in any direction from a town and it’s dessert, what they have done with that land is turn a war ravaged area into a well developed city.
Now the palestinians did nothing but waste there land and kill themselves in the process, Arab countries forget that the land has been there’s for a thousand years prior to jewish re-occupation, sure there was a period of time where it was under british rule but still, 1000 years and they not once produced anything but built a mosque over the supposed temple of Solomon.
They also waged wars with egypt, syria, lebannon, and Iraq, hence why these arab nations refuse to aide them through this continuous conflict.
But the truth of the matter is this, Israel has done everything to come to a reasonable settlement with the Palestinians but to no avail. The only thing left is to start trimming away at there land till the last of them fall into the Mediterranean sea.
Good for Israel, it’s about time they dealt with this issue once and for all. It wouldn’t be the first time a nomadic tribe was forced into extinction and it won’t be the last. Either stop electing hama’s to represent your NEW country or you will perish from the land forever.
But you know what I hope they come to a peaceful resolution rather then resorting to extinction because like all people of this planet we should all be given the chance to co exist. It’s just a shame that religious people from 3 religions have already claimed this land there own, when in fact it is all of there’s.
Christians, Muslims, and Jews all feel that the land contains some history of there religious beliefs within the state of israel. And if israel was smart it would turn that region into something that all religions would be proud of, rather then waging war with each other over stupid unattainable achievements.
But if the Palestinians win there so called conflict and gain control of the region, there is other problems that will arise, within the US. A win for the palestinians will give terrorists the catalyst to attack all western countries. This is why it is important to put there conflict into perspective, because all in all this act alone will take muslim extremism to a whole new level. There goal is to take over the world via religion or war, and to allow a single country to fall to that belief is simply unacceptable.
That is why America supports Israel, because without a doubt there are the lesser of 2 evils and when it is all finished Israel has proven to be a solid and irrefutable ally. One that america should be proud to have aided. If you look at all the BAD allies america has had in the past. Dictators, presidents, prime ministers, that were supposed allies were genuine warlords, who killed many of there own country men to ensure there position within there country, how many innocent Israeli’s were victims to there government?……..ZERO.
I say if the palestinian people don’t get there act together and form a government that can move them along in regards to international relations and can bring peace within there walls, then there is no reason for Israel to take down there walls, and those walls will remain permanently up and the palestinians will be forced to import all there food and basic necessities. Not to mention every time they wage war on Israel there territory will be smaller and smaller till eventually there is nothing left for them to live on.
This is called the bottleneck approach and it’s the only solution that Israel actually has available to them. The Israeli government is under a lot of pressure by there own country men to take back the west bank, but there aren’t going to unless the palestinians keep going with there hamas lead war.
Most Palestinians that I’ve been in contact have told me that they don’t have a government in place because of the strategies used by hamas, but hamas is also the only thing they have to defend against Israel army so they find themselves in a very uncomfortable situation. In order for them to move ahead they have too rid themselves of hamas and hezbollah forever. expel them from the region and form there own police force (probably would be smart to use israeli training to build that force, you know to show good faith to israel, and quicken the transition phase).
Once they do that the israeli government will remove those walls because believe me when I say this that ALL Israeli’s are truly uncomfortable with it, and most of the elders have been on the other side of that wall before, the difference is that they were executed shortly after while the palestinians are being given chance after chance to move on and stop dwelling on the past mistakes of there people.
January 4th, 2009 at 11:25 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fHmWcRZ72A
January 4th, 2009 at 11:37 am
ICN Informed Citizen News
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI_JuLLYT5Q
January 4th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Hating Israel is like hating God. Everytime someone burns an Israeli flag God cries. How can anyone take from the Jews what God gave them? The Nation of King David, the Prophet Isaiah, and the Prophet Elijah is being shot at with rockets.
Israel will win because God is on it’s side and God will protect the legacy he gave the Jewish community. Israel is good, Iran and the Middle Eastern nations are evil. Hell, Irans president is a HOLOCAUST DENIER and wants the Holy Land wiped off the map!
January 4th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Those who believe that the IDF can win in Gaza should check out some basic military logistical facts.
If Hamas can lure a tank column into the narrow streets and disable the last one in, then they have established a highly effective road block that seals the fate of the column. Because tanks are track vehicles you only need to disable one side of the tracks to trap it in a narrow street. Then, even if you only have petrol bombs, you can slowly “cook” the crew and cause the tank’s ammo and fuel to explode.
If any of the hapless crew choose to exit the tank they can easily be captured and filmed begging for their lives which of course will then be broadcast, via the internet, all over the world.
At this point, the political aspirations of various Israelis who have ordered the incursion goes up in flames, much the same way as the twisted and charred corpses of the Israeli tank crews do FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE.
Come on cowards….. bring it on….. I can smell your fear. It’s the fear of the blowback from the hatred that you have created.
It’s time to reap the bitter thorns that you have seeded.
January 4th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Well the megaphone is in full use as seen in Jay’s post. Quit using God’s name to rationalize your holocaust on the Palestinian citizens.
January 4th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
#111, Andy, this is what’s going on:
http://muslimtv.magnify.net/vi.....ANS-CHILDR
Very graphic beware
January 4th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
I’m tired of Zionists always bringing up the Holocaust as an excuse to do anything they want in the Middle East and squelch dissenters. I’m going to say what’s on everyone’s mind but everyone is too afraid to say: GET OVER THE HOLOCAUST. You’re not the only group that’s suffered from genocide. Look at what the Turks did to the Armenians, what happened in Rwanda and Darfur, what happened to the Native Americans, what happened to anyone who got in Genghis Khan’s way, etc. GROUPS EXTERMINATE OTHER GROUPS ALL THE TIME. YOU’RE NOTHING SPECIAL, SO GET OVER YOUR PERSECUTION COMPLEX!
Of course, the Holocaust was horrible and I don’t support it. But for f---’S sakes, it happened over 60 years ago and no one’s going to gas you or throw you in any oven. I remember in 2nd grade I was beat up by the school bully and everyone was really nice to me for a week (it happened when everyone was coming in from recess so everyone knew about it). But after a week, people forgot about it and I went back to my normal place (lower/middling) in the social structure. What we have with the Israel/Palestinian conflict is the exact same situation except Israel is ramming the guilt down everyone’s throats to keep them at the forefront of the world’s sympathies while they do whatever they want.
Additionally I’m TIRED of all this “We have 6 million, they have 600 million” BULLs---. Anyone who’s been following military developments for the past 40+ years or so knows that Israel’s military has so many force multipliers that it’s extremely unlikely that even a united Middle East could defeat Israel’s military in an all-out knockdown conventional war. Of course, that’s not even mentioning the Israeli nuclear arsenal.
Also, I used to think that we should blame the NWO and the Israeli government for the actions taken on behalf of the Israeli people but all the Zionists here spouting off about “God’s chosen people” as an excuse for Israel to do whatever it wants has really opened my eyes: Zionists are the Jewish version of Christian Identity or al-Qaeda (for the sake of argument, let’s hypothetically say it’s real and not a CIA front [which it is, don't get me wrong]) or Aum Shanrikyo or any of these extremist religious groups/cults. If the majority of the Israeli population really buys into this bulls--- then I honestly wouldn’t mind Israel being wiped off the map.
Here is my ideal scenario: America and/or Russia text messages and calls everyone in Israel and tells them to leave before the “shock and awe” (or, if you prefer, rapid dominance) hits their land. Unlike Israel, we’d actually give them a week or so in order for all the normal Jews to leave and evacuate to safety. Then we’ll blow the hell out of their country and its infrastructure Iraq-style and not stop pounding until every single last Zionist is dead or ejected from the area. (Was the Iraq bombing wrong? Maybe. But no one accused us of not being damn good at it!
) Haha, let’s see how “God’s chosen people” deal with a rain of JDAMs up their assholes! 
While it would be cool to see Russia kick Israel’s ass, I would still prefer America to do so, because there’s nothing better than a bully acting all big and bad to everyone else because they’ve got their big brother as backup, only to, in the immortal words of Phil Hendrie, “crap a green brick” when their big brother realizes that their little bro’s an asshole that needs to be taught a lesson for their own good. (Call it tough love). Or an arrogant martial arts student that gets their ass handed to them by their master for beating up all the lower belts. Let’s see how they fight the masters of REAL war!
Please note that I chose my name very carefully: Death to the STATE OF ISRAEL, not Death to Jews. I just wanted to make that clear before I get branded as anti-Semitic as is the common practice by Zionists to squelch any dissent with Israel. (This is going to sound cliched but I really do have Jewish friends). I am not a Muslim or Arab either; I’m a Catholic (to be honest probably a “Jack Catholic”) who lives in the United States. Like Alex, I just hate bullies and love it when they get their “what for.”
January 4th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Hey Jay, at 116, don’t you feel a sense of irony that your first paragraph starts with the word “Hating” and then repeats it?
The game is up my friend. Nobody is buying into your lies. The information war has taken a turn.
I’ll leave you with a quotation from a former Nazi Gestapo commander shortly before he took his own life.
“At the time of the setting sun, dwarfs will cast shadows like giants”.
January 4th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Go Israel! May defeat come quickly to the Muslim terrorists.
January 4th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
I think most people know how the Iraelis brought this upon themselves. I’ve seen videos of them bulldozing the Palestinians homes while they’re still inhabited.
January 4th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
The Palestinians will never succeed against God’s chosen people the Jews.
Russia will attack Israel and many Israeli’s (2 thirds) will be killed but God will protect His own.
Everybody is complaning about Israel’s war on Hamas but nobody is complaning about the constant attacks on the Israeli’s.
“Death to the state of Israel” please go to: http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com
January 4th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Go Hamas! Israel is a pseudo state created upon utterly false premises, maintained by an ocean of taxpayer dollars and social engineering PR. There will be no peace in the middle-east until it’s gone.
January 4th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
#110—I went there and nothing happened. Its a infowars site. Where did you end up.
January 4th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Well said, the commenter who called Israel a ‘pseudo-state.’ (I have read that one reason WW II was fomented, set up, and waged by the corporate/banking elites was to created that foothold in the oil-rich and strategically well/centrally positioned part of the world).
A note re the idea that “Jews” are “God’s chosen people”…
Read THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE, book by Arthur Koestler, in which he presents and discusses the historical fact that the vast majority of those who today call themselves and are called Jews, are not of the bloodline of the Biblical Jews. Rather they are Khazarian Jews, descendants of the warlike Mongol herdsmen from eastern Europe/western-central Asia, who in the Middle Ages, for reasons having little to do with religion/faith, prudently converted to Judaism, under pressure from the Christians on one hand and the Muslims on the other, to convert to one of those religions. (There is and always has been a politics to religion and vice versa).
So today’s ‘Jews’ are converts, not related by blood to ‘God’s chosen people’ – making it pretty much irrelevant how one chooses to interpret that much mis-interpreted and mis-used phrase.
January 4th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
I am a jew and i say that Israel is the most unjust ‘nation’ on earth.. Their ocupation is against the natural way of things and it is only a matter of time before they will fall.They are only occupying the lands for 60 years and look at how much havoc they have caused.The arabs have occupied the land for 1300 years. The idea of an israeli state will never be realised because it is against the natural way of things.. No land will make a jew a jew because being jew is in our hearts. Leave the arabs in their country because this is a war that will continue for a thousand years. These arabs will never stop the resistance because they are so attached to the land.
January 4th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
History has shown us that unjust occupying powers will always be overthrown.be it 10 years or 1000 years.
January 4th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
#128, You are a self-hating Jewish piece of sh_t. You simplify complex issues regarding Israel with the intelligence of a moron. Are you really that stupid or just wanting to be COOL AND ANTI-ZIONIST. You disgust me!
January 4th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Oftentimes, you can predict what will come out of the mouths of experts, based on the ethnicity of their surnames.
As a Christian idealist, with my feet firmly grounded in tangible reality, I personally expect more of the same ol’, same ol’, climaxing with a 7 year peace treaty, which further divides Israel and is broken in 3 1/2 years.
January 4th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
The International commumity must supercede all govt’s. We must join 10,000,000 stong and committ to put our money where our mouths are! With just $100.00 each we could raise $100,000,000.00 Then we could vote and decide where and how to use this money. For example, we could use it to help the cinilians living in the gaza strip, Darfur, whereever. With the help of the internet it’s ashame we, the people, have not simply disregarded the governments that be.The consequences of not uniting is self evident. Protesting the Israeli invasion from America is still a proponent of believing we can influene gov’t. We cannot. We must act. We could get Utubers from around the world to film the suffering of the innocent. We could get experts from around the world to advise, etc. the money could be fiqured out by some smart people. put the money in the name of Bono, he can be trusted. We vote and we act. A truly starfish organiztion of love /w people and money. A true worldwide community of love that finally takes planet earth into our own hands!!!
January 4th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Larry lubenstein [sic] said, “I am a jew and i say that Israel is the most unjust ‘nation’ on earth.. Their ocupation is against the natural way of things and it is only a matter of time before they will fall…”
The natural way of things.
I’m no linguist but am told that the Arabic language has no “P” sound (as in Palestinian).
The name was given to the land (and the nomads, who dwelt there) by it’s Roman occupiers.
Can anyone verify this?
If I understand correctly Gaza used to be Phillistia, but “Greater Israel” used to encompass much more land than it does now.
I’m not saying that this justifies any particularly unbiblical behavior.
January 4th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
#92, Good day Mark and good hunting
January 4th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Info Wars, Don’t you dare sensor this… I you people would like to see what the media has been hiding from you in regards to Israel killing civilians i.e. blowing up market places in Gaza go to this web site and watch the video. Not for the faint of heart. This is what war really looks like.
January 4th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
impeachbush.org
January 4th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Come here to chat about the Gaza crisis with others from Prison Planet and infowars while watching the live stream from press.tv………
http://www.globalcordon.com/
No registration… Just set-up yesterday when the ground war started…..
January 4th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
PLO PLO PLO….
January 4th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
everyone go to rawstory.com and check out the UNCENSORED VIDEO FROM GAZA AND THEN SPREAD THE WORD, WE NEED THE WORLD TO WAKE UP AND SEE WHAT THESE COWARDS ARE DOING TO INNOCENT PEOPLE
January 4th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Attention.:4w578 How did the modern israeli state come into being?it was definately a transition not wanted by the local native people(arabs)…What was the jewish population in that region before 1920..as far as i know,majority of modern israeli citizens are descended from european jewish settlers. What are the palestians fighting for? Answer:There own country back.. Israel never expected the arabs would resist for 70 years,and nw as it was then,its still its stil top of their agenda
. Hey RB, these are obvious facts. Theres nothing complicated about what the palestinians are on about.. So now u gna tel me that the land of israel is a god given right to the jews?ridiculous.. Tell me wot happened to the jews living in israel before the arabs invaded 1300 years ago.? Il tel u, Many of them converted to islam.haha..my point is this. The root of the problem is obviously the cause of the fighting.The israeli state is illegtimate from woteva way u look at it. So u people should stop trying to justify wot the zionist have done..
January 4th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
I was sexually molested by Rebecca Katz, and something that I don’t understand happened to me when I was in the backyard of the home of Ruth and Dodge Wilson, neighbors of Bill Downey, I was about four or five and it was in an orange freeman tent. Why?
January 4th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Well if they want to kill each other then let them kill each other….
Do you really think that the rest offthe world worry about some Palestinians or Jews….
I really dont think so …
Just like I said ..let them kill each other.Let see what willl be next….
January 4th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Good point, as far as moving isreal to where it is today was obviously very well crafted geographical move by thewhole world, but they can still live in peace together. Why are the palestinians allowing their ” government” to basically use them as shields agaisnt air attacks? why are these leaders hiding underground? why are they not doing what is best for the population they govern? but doesn’t Isreal comply to truces that are made. they have agreed in the past to removing settlers in the west bank, but hamas still attacks, killing civilians. then isreal retaliates, killing civilians. They are both in the wrong for not practicing the basics of their religion. but hamas is the instigator and is well financed and run, I mean they are practically a corporation. Hamas will have to stop shooting rockets into isreal and PROVOKING A WAR there will be peace. and Isreal will need to commit to making fair concessions for palestinians. But unfortunarelty, Hamas will never stop because peace means bankruptcy and ending this holy war will put alot of people in the unemployment line on both sides or the border. economically it is not possible for the palestinians. how much was arafat worth when he died?
January 4th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
American patriots can take a lesson from Hamas
January 4th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Chris you selfish little bastard.When its your turn to get raped and ravaged ill not give as--- either.Asswipe!
January 4th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
resources controlled from outside. contaminated water will defeat them
January 4th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
ISRAEL IS SAYING, “DON’T TREAD ON ME”,
JUST LIKE ANYONE ELSE, YOU MESS WITH ME AND I’M LIKE A “PORQUIPINE”, THEY’RE LIKE THE KOREANS IN LA, THEY DON’T CARE WHAT YOU THINK THEY ARE GOING TO PROTECT THEMSELVES….
HOW’S THAT….
January 4th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
The GOD of the Bible is the only one who can defeat Isreal. For the coming armies of russia, all islamic armies, china, germany, and ANYONE else that sides against Israel , their blood will run 5 feet deep and miles long. It is in the scriptures, and it WILL come to pass in YOUR lifetime!!! Liberalism is a mental disease and it will rot and destroy YOU from the inside out!
January 4th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
f--- Israel. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to know that they are in league with the fascist elements of America. Death to the NWO. As far as I can see, Hamas is one of the only military fronts there is against this global elite garbage. My heart goes with the underdog. Israeli elite miltary industrial complex is quite provably Satanic and works with the destructive capacities of Lucifer. Whats so sci-fi about that is that I am not Christian. Some things just ARE.
January 4th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Israel needs to pack its bags and give back the land it stole from the Palestinians. Bunch of racists. America has no business helping a bunch of people who hate Jesus to get their own country at the expense of the Palestinians (or anybody else), then give them billions of dollars each year and lots of high tech planes and guns. They have 400 nukes. Ever since Israel reared its ugly head in 1946 or whenever there has been nothing but turmoil. The Jews don’t NEED Israel, and most of the Jews live in America.
They are not special, except that they hate Jesus and are responsible for his crucifixion. Other than that, their religion is from the occult, Babylonian Cabala and Babylonian Talmud, both satanic beliefs, and anybody who supports this groups is under God’s curse the same way they are under His curse.
The Zionists are a bunch of racists trying to bring on the New World Order, focused on taking down the Dome of the Rock so they can rebuild Solomon’s Temple (which Jesus cursed) and begin animal sacrifice again. They are moaning and wailing for their phony messiah, the antichrist, who they will sit in this cursed temple.
The Bible compares Jerusalem in the last days to “Sodom and Egypt” (Rev. 11) and says the SYnagogue of Satan will haul Christians into court and kill them.
Zionist Judaism is ANTICHRIST.
Check out David Dees latest artwork on the Zionists
http://www.rense.com/1.mpicons/dees1.htm
January 4th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
GET BETTER INFORMED on the HISTORY OF THIS ‘CONFLICT’. WATCH:
“Peace, Propaganda and the Promised Land: Media & the Israel-Palestine Conflict”
Great film (about 1 hour 15 minutes). Shows how the mainstream media gives us COMPLETELY ONE SIDED COVERAGE OF THE ILLEGAL OCCUPATION. Really an eye opener.
If this link will post on this forum, click:
http://video.google.com/videop.....&hl=en
Or go to google video or youtube and search for the title shown above.
January 4th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
yadayadayada if the towel spinners persist I think Israel will wipe the gaza strip off the fac e of the earth there serious this time ,they got a cock roche problem so there going for it
January 4th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
That is the biggest problem with the whole conflict for decades, it has turned religious. if you can take religion out of the isreali-palestinian conflict and boil it down to basic elements, it is over land. palestine should be pissed about the land being taken from them, where they compensated? if not, then the world needs to make it right. throw religion in there and you have the makings of a century old hatfield & mccoy situation. it sounds like the palestinians have evolved into here own military industrial complex in the name of religion. AGAIN, HOW MUCH WAS ARAFAT WORTH ? BILLIONS ALL HIDDEN THRU OUT THE WORLD BY ZIONISTS PIGS. SEE THE f---ING HYPOCRISY POEPLE. EXTREMISM IS A DISEASE, BECAUSE IT USUALLY BENEFITS A FEW, PEACE BENEFITS EVERYONE. .
January 4th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
You think the palestinians own that are. Well The British fought and died and killed the turks to free that area, not the palestinians, and what you’re going to get is what we have in america, which is ARMAGEDDON! Every nationality has crowded into usa at the behest of the queen of england, who still thinks she owns all this land, including the middle east, and she’s going to invite the Chinese army of 200 million which were her subjects too, to come and live in palestine, just like they have ruined the USA withmillions of chinese and everybody else coming into our oc---ry.
SO HAVE FUN FIGHTING THE CHINESE ARMY!!
January 4th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
http://www.911missinglinks.com/
January 4th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Attention tenacious.: Hamas is so well organisd because they are not terrorist but a political party. Why did the israeli govt refuse to recognise hamas as a legitimate political party but as a terrorist organization? I mean wot is democracy if the opinions of the majority of a country are overlooked. Cos that is the case in palestine.
Hamas was chosen by people of palestine and backed by them .How are negotiations gna begin if israel wont recognise a ruling political party voted in by the people.. As for Hamas firing rockets-hav u seen the conditions the palestinians are living in under the israeli apartheid regime.. Just a thought- Nelson Mandela was imprisoned on roben island for 27 years before becoming president of south africa.. Charges laid against him by the racist apartheid govt- Masterminding Terrorist activity
January 4th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Loving Hamas and hezbollah they remind me of freedom fighters !
January 4th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Go to WHAT REALLY HAPPENED website and scroll down until you get to the video ‘The media is Bias to Israel and here is Why’. It helps you understand why there is so much conflict in that sad, sad place
January 4th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Why do most countries in the world have an israeli embassy?why is israel allowed to take part in world events such as the olympics etc.. Why are no sanctions imposd on israel when many countries including the UN condemn israeli hostility?During apartheid here in south africa, we were not allowed to take part in any world events. Zimbabwe is no longer part of our global community,nor are parts of korea.. Why shouldnt israel be subjectd to the punishments of non-cooperative nations.? Is it because they ‘THE CHOSEN PEOPLE’ ? Why do the world do nothing? If u havnt notice, we outnumber them.
January 4th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Atention moses.: U say the british freed palestine..bulls---! The british cut up the middle east and gave palestine to the jews at the expense of the native palestinians. (Balfour declaration). As for ‘ FREED FROM THE TURKS’ – palestine was an autonomous state under the ottomans.. If u read further into history you’l find out that turkey was arabized by arabs from all over middle east especialy palestine,lebanon and syria.
January 4th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
See this video, puts situation in context
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_ILdI9N_AY
January 4th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
That photo up there are shia fighters who beat Israel in 2006 and kicked them out of Lebanon if only they could go into Gaza and help Hamas even though Hama is sunni.
January 4th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
go Israel!!!!!!! kick the s--- out of the psychopaths…
January 4th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Just wait until Israel blows up the Dome of the Rock and rebuilds their evil Solomons Temple so they can spit in the face of God and start up animal sacrifice again. They go out wailing at the wall praying for the antichrist to come, who they call the Messiah — and when he does come he will be installed in their rebuilt temple. Guess who’s going to be paying for the rebuilding of the temple? The American taxpayers.
Guess who’s been cursed for blessing the Zionists who hate Jesus, who are most decidedly NOT the Chosen People at all — the United States is cursed to a degree never before seen, and we will all be dead soon. Thank you, Israel, for the marriage of convenience, and now that you have bled us dry and brought the wrath of God on us and turned us to the ways of death, you are on your own with Antichrist and all your buildings and weapons paid for by we the American taxpayers.
Meantime we can’t pray in the schools, can’t sing Christmas carols, and can’t even put up a cardboard cresche at Christmas.
Chosen People, yeah right, chosen for Hell if the Jews don’t stop hating the God who made us all and came to earth to die for us that we might be forgiven our many wicked sins.
And why do we have to have Mossad and dual citizen Jews running our govt top to bottom? And why is Israel getting away with what it does after 7 years after 9/11 and everybody knows the government did it with Mossad carrying out the details.
Israel, the curse of America and the world.
January 4th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
why do many of the israeli ashkenazim look european (light skin, blue eyes, blond or red hair) as oppose to other semites (palestinians) who have dark complexion? just curious cause the difference between the two seems great.
January 4th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Palestine was a waste and temporary grazing for nomadic herdsmen. Don’t give us crap that “native palestinians” peacefully lived there. A casual history of pre-reborn Israel proves this is erroneous.
The Jews prospered and the “desert bloomed”. Now the Arabs are wanting it. I WONDER WHY?
If Mexicans launched one rocket at Texas, the rednecks would form a militia and bomb the crap out of those beaners! I say, let Israel do the same.
Rabbi Feldman is a traitor.
January 4th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Babble on folks. Your minds, spirits, and purpose have been divided and scattered to the winds.
January 4th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
I hope the Israelis put an end to this Muslim bravado of Hamas. Throw a bomb on Hamas, they declare victory, throw enough so that there is no one to declare victory! There needs to be a victor and a vanquished, no ceasefire until Hamas is subdued and knows it is subdued.
January 4th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
#, 166 Cogratulations you win the Alex Jones award for the most delusional amd psychotic behavior for Jan 3, 2009. Contact ALEX for your reward, free electro-shock therapy.
January 4th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Hello islamo-fascists, US and euro commees, and fellow travelers, looks like hamas is getting its ass kicked—-any comments from their cheer leading morons.
From today’s Jerusalem Post:
“Earlier on Sunday, defense officials said the IDF was prepared to deepen and escalate its ground operations in Gaza, after the army split the territory in half and began surrounding Gaza City. Hamas, the officials said, was encountering difficulties in delivering orders to its forces.”
January 4th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
No. 167, your desert would bloom too if you had billions of dollars pouring in from American taxpayers — gratis — never to be paid back.
Wake up. This is not a regathering per God’s plan to bless Israel. Anycovenant per Deuteronomy terms was null and void when the Jews crucified their messiah. The Temple was torn down in 70 AD, and they can’t come back 2000 years later and bully their way in, take people’s lands and property, including many orchards that were the Palestinians, and say it’s God’s will.
God’s will my foot.
January 4th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
I don’t know enough about either side of this conflict to have a bias one direction or the other. However, in light of our own situation in America it would be wise to pay close attention to how this war is waged against a technologically superior fighting force. I’m sure “we the people” can learn a few things that might just save our own butts in the future…
January 4th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
171** IN REPLY TO RB
Hamas might be getting its butt kicked but every jew they kill is a victory, hey R.B. what do you have to say about Hezbollah and how they kicked israel’s butts. Israel couldnt last 33 days on the ground. Even your own commanders are saying that Israel doesnt have the capabiltity to attack Iran. THE GAME IS UP !
January 4th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
#176, Hey resistance let me make it simple so even you can get it:
Israel has probably 400-500 nuclear weapons with multiple delivery systems, including submarine based missiles—-they don’t hae to occupy iran, they just have to destroy it.
Let me assure you if our backs are to the wall we will do it!
January 4th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
175** in reply to R.B.
Use might have 500 nuclear weapons but when Iran gets its hand on one it probly already has thats all it would need. Dont forget how small Israel is.
January 4th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
#158 hey jeremy do you love just hamas and the hezbo’s or all islamo-fascists, please explain if you can?
January 4th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
God will deliver Israel
January 4th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
#158 see ELVIS 68 come back,
THANKS, YOU RESPONSE CRACKED ME UP, SIMPLE ELEGENCE!
“yadayadayada if the towel spinners persist I think Israel will wipe the gaza strip off the fac e of the earth there serious this time ,they got a cock roche problem so there going for it”
January 4th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Don’t get too excited; Hamas will never be anything close to Hezbollah.
January 4th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
#184, Great news, Alex has told me that he is getting a discount for his awards program for the dilusional and psychotic. Specifically, since the number of dilusional and psychotic personalities that use this site is so high. Therefore, he has instructed me to increase the number of awards.
I am therefore please to preset you with the second award for today for the most dilusional and psychotic on the site. Congratulations, you can receive free electo shock treatment at a location of your choice, pleaase contact ALEX, asap for your badly needed free treatment
January 4th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Dr. Paul discusses the invasion of Gaza on January 3, 2009 and its implications for America.
http://www.cherada.com/articul.....army-video
January 4th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Lebensraum
Adapted from:
http://www.holocaust-trc.org/wmp15.htm
LEBENSRAUM: LIVING SPACE FOR THE JEWISH RACE
The main reason for the Israeli expansion into its neighboring territories was built upon the
principle of lebensraum. Even though it translates literally to mean only “living space,” lebensraum
carried with it the desire for the Israelis to expand into other countries to provide living space for
the growing Jewish race.
During this time, the “inferior” races, such as the Palestinians and Arabs, who occupied the new Israeli territories, were stripped of their possessions, jobs, and “resettled” in ghettos or concentration camps. This helped break the people’s will, asserted the strong power of the Israelis, and gave direct benefits to the Zionist regime.
When the Israeli Army successfully overtook and conquered the surrounding lands of Palestine,
the Zionists immediately began its policy of racial restructuring. The Israeli bureaucracy began
by issuing orders for Arabs in a particular town or city to submit an announcement of their
possessions. This property was then gathered and confiscated, and the money was used directly by the bureaucracy.
The Israelis basic intent was to make survival for the Arabs more difficult and to create a loss of
identity for the Palestinians. For the most part, the Israelis were successful in accomplishing their two goals as well as devastating the lives of the for letters stating that their jobs no longer existed or that their possessions were to be handed over to the Israeli Reich. The Israelis occupying the towns asserted that the consequence of dissension was severe punishment or death.
As the Arabs were stripped of their belongings, they also were stripped of their purpose and their
identity. By taking their positions at work, their personal possessions, and their money, the Israelis ensured a supreme hold on the Palestinian population that allowed them to expand and exploit the Israeli’s power.
After the possessions of the Arabs were taken and sold, the Israelis continued their plans of “resettlement.” After World War II, 750,000 individuals were ejected out of the region with the help of the colonial governments in power, all of which were non-Jews.
Most of the deportees were shipped to concentration camps throughout the territories for slave labor or to be put to death. The Israelis maintained their clear purpose of cleansing Israel of the Palestinians and Arabs, and they carried these goals into the occupied territories for implementation. Through the goals of lebeusraum and “resettlement,” the Israelis tried to restructure the racial content of Europe and deeply scarred the lives of many Arabs living in the occupied regions. The Israelis stripped away their lives and their identities in an effort to expand their own race at the expense and exploitation of the semetic race.
January 4th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
I agree with Khalid *181*
Hamas will never be close to Hezbollah.
Though what Israel needs is a nice nuke.
January 4th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
israel didn’t lose to hezbollah they just didn’t really want to win.
if they decide not to defeat hamas it will be for the same reason.
that said if they want to win, they must annihilate everything and everyone where the enemy is…
leave nothing standing and no one alive including women and children.
then they could win…
but the world opinion would be against them.
January 4th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Wars and violence only leads to temporary victories that lead to more wars and violence. I fear the powers to be on this Planet will try to prove this wrong and try to annihilate the Arabs just as Hitler tried against the Jews. Israel does have Nukes. I believe Israel wanted Hamas to do this. This way they get to kill more of them. What do you think 9/11 was all about.
January 4th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
*188*
In reply to DAWG.
Israel had obejectives the military and the people considered a victory.
That was to destroy hezbollah, the weapons, infastructure, pull them back further fromt the border, Disarm them.
Were any of these Objectives achieved ? NO.
Israelies were taken back by the strength of Hezbollah and suffered defeat and couldnt even hold a town in lebanon for more then a day.
January 4th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
6 Days War – Almost the true version-Must See
http://www.palestineremembered....._3030.html
January 4th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
One question: What kind of person someone must be to kill innocent and disarmed civilians, no matter if he has a reason or not…? Simple question, I think.
January 4th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
Obama is a Zionist
January 4th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
Military sources report that on the second day of their ground offensive, Sunday, Jan 4, Day 9 of its offensive against Hamas, Israeli forces closed their siege encirclement of Gaza City. Armored and infantry units are fighting for control of Philadelphi arms smuggling corridor.
January 4th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
The experts are overlooking the way Israel intends to win. The IDF is going to do a “Warsaw” on Gaza. Yes they will level every single building. They will inch forward and destroy building by building and they as a “humanitarian” gesture allow all the civilians to leave to a camp they set up in the controlled areas.
Yes not only are they taking “living room to the east” with their settlements in the west bank, they will now implement another Nazi “solution”. How long until Israel implements the “final solution”?
January 5th, 2009 at 2:03 am
I like those experts who use their expertise to write total nonsense as if they have no knowledge or insight into the history of this region. It’s like those very smart studies which favour something therefore must show how good it is though you know this is nonsense.
Hamas will be defeated and will remain only a political movement. It’s army of terrorists will be reduced to dust. The only country in the world that cares about hamas is Iran. hamas are the puppets of Iran in the region, just as hizbollah is. Iran is the head of the snake and will be dealt with soon.
This axis of evil brings only hatred and distruction, where people eventually want to live quietly, whether in Israel, Gaza or Lebanon.
At least Israel protects its citizens. hamas and hizbollah couldn’t care less about their people. Their only agenda is to wipe Israel off the face of this earth, and all means are fine. and the more innocent people die, they feel it’s serving that purpose. Well, they are failing time after time, and they will keep on failing. Huge empires and forces much larger than hamas and hizbollah and Iran tried to exterminate us Jews. They are all in the garbage can of history, while we continue to live and flourish as we did for the last 5000 years.
Iran, hamas and hizbollah will FAIL.
We have the moral, just and spiritual power to continue easily for another 5000 years, while all you dark forces, you will vanish.
January 5th, 2009 at 2:22 am
Breaking news:
A story is gaining high credability that Israel’s Mossad is constructing gas chambers in the tunnels in Gaza for the “final-solution”. This effort is being funded by the rothchilds bank and the NWO. The purpose is to de-populate the planet and give the Zionist Nazis more living space.
January 5th, 2009 at 2:48 am
*196* HEY DORON WOOPS I MEAN MORON.
Firstly I would not talk about History in the region because as i can remeber the last war Israel participated in restulted in a defeat to Hezbollah in that picture up there the pride for all the people resisting the zionist regimes.
No alot of Arabs and good hearted people all over the world care about Palestians because they are from Adam and adam is from the earth. They are the decendants of the first creation of humans as you are facist.
Third you mentioned that Iran will be dealth with soon ? how so when your own army gernerals say that Israel arent capable of attacking Iran look it up
Fourth the only flushing use have done is the support from the Rothschilds and your perfect image in the media is all propaganda.
I predict Israel to suffer a heavy blow this year and it will change the way the world views you, militarily, politcally as well as internal by your own people….wait thats ALREADY HAPPENING THANKS TO HEZBOLLAH.
January 5th, 2009 at 3:07 am
Im Sick Of It!!!!!
im sick of all the crap thats going
im sick of the Jewish dogs lying to the people
THEY CAN SUCK MY ASS HOLE, I WANT TO RAM THERE HEADS INTO THE FLOOR AND MURDER THE FAMILYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THEY CAN ALL GO TO HELL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DAM THEM ALL THE HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 5th, 2009 at 3:44 am
well, assiaf. I believe isreal has been fighting hamas for a long time, and very recently beccame a ruling party i believe they were a military arm of the PLO. If I attack you everyday and beat you up, blow up your car, throw grenades in your back yard while your kids are there, then we have to be friends I think you would be very hesitant to start talking to me and consider me a friend. second, i believe that palestine is as much of a democracy as iraq or america, democracy is a f---ing myth. if democracy was real and palestine is democratic, then how could theyy not be zionists? they believe in the same thing as us? and would also conflict with religious ideologies of other countries THAT THEY ARE PUPPETS FOR. it is all a game about money and power, and if palestine got all it’s land back and isreal moved across the world, would the hatred and fighting stop? doubtful, if you kill your enemy, the war is over and again, there will be a lot of people in the unemployment line. just like when the mujahaddeen fought the soviets in the 80’s in afghanistan and when they left they had no enemy and soon were doing nothing until they found a new enemy in the “zionists” i see your point on the mandela thng, but palestine is ruled by hamas right? not isreal and therefore need hamas needs to worry about improving life for their poeple and they need to demand it. and isreal needs to not embargo their country and allow them to recve goods, too bad the arsenal they recve are thru these paths. something has to give, and jews or palestinians will never die off. so stop the bombs palestine and isreal and get serious about a mutually beneficial solution that finally put this to rest. also if you are on a website in a “zionist” country then find one in a non zionist country, and if you live here and feel we are zionists, then get the f--- out if your country is worth fighting for then stay there. again it is all hypocrisy.
January 5th, 2009 at 3:47 am
Hizbollah,
The thought that hizbollah won the last war really serves our interests. That’s good, keep spreading this word. Just ask Nasrallah what exactly is he doing 20 feet beneath the ground, sitting there like a mouse. Oh, I see, he’s there because he won the war. LOL.
Just as long as we have our quiet to keep on what we need to do for next genarations and for the benefit off us Israelis and all human kind – education, science, agriculture etc’.
That’s OK, you and all those extemists live upon symbols, not more than that. You don’t really have any real things to fill your symbols with, just as long as a flag is stuck into a dead civilian’s ass. Even if it is your own civilian.
You will never be able to win anything that way, because you don’t have any value to life or to anything but killing another Israeli, no matter what the cost is. AH, sorry, they promised you 72 virgins. LOL.
Judaism was never about violence. Judaism was never about spreading its religion through violence like Islam. But we sure knew, know and will know how to deal with those little cockroaches(hamas, hizbollah, Iran etc) that’s bugging our peace and tranquility.
We always knew how to surprise our enemies. Nasrallah said that had he known….
Well, and all the rest is history.
Well, mr.hizbollah, one more suggestion for you, before you spit some more nonsense here – go get some education about our 5000 year history, about the powers in the region, about this region’s history.
Look at the mirror, truly, and you’ll see that you are going through a totally wrong path, which currently only extemists lead the way. You are digging your own graves. You’re on the way of your self distruction. Maybe not physically but morally, spiritually and humanly.
GOOD LUCK. It is in your hands to make the change. As we say you will eat the soup you cook.
January 5th, 2009 at 4:12 am
#198, DORON, i APPRECIATE WHAT YOU TRYING TO DO IN REACHING OUT IN A TRUTHFUL AND MORAL FASHION BUT YOU ARE WASTING YOUR ENERGY ON THESE ISLAMO-FASCIST NUT JOBS. JUST FU_k THEM UP —THAT’S ALL THIS SITE IS GOOD FOR.
January 5th, 2009 at 4:13 am
Damn #120 way to put it down man, I hate war but you got that s--- right!, I just wanted to add, what about what the nazi’s did to russia? I believe a history major friend of mine told me that something like 25 million russians died in ww2? and what about the handicapped, gypsies, homeless and all the others that were killed besides the jews, they forget about them when they mention the holocaust!!!
#123 I’ve seen lots and lots and lots and lots of videos , the one’s you’ve mentioned and many much worse, and it’s too bad all these deceived idiots claiming that they are “god’s chosen people” haven’t seen these videos also or they would shut their stupid fly-traps. Not to mention that God is not the creator, Yahweh is, and israel rejects his name and will kill you for trying to teach it!!!
Has anyone read Romans here? Don’t you know that a Yahd (correct term for “Yahweh’s chosen people”) is not a person of a certain gene pool or color or nationality, but someone who’s circumsicion is of the heart?) Obviously many of the people here are seriously lacking understanding of the scriptures, and are no better than the lying christian/catholic preachers who teach iniquity (iniquity means : Not subject to Yahweh’s Laws,,look it up!). Don’t you know that Yahweh can graft anyone into the true vine (Yahshua messiah) that he pleases, all they must do is apply for adoption into Yahweh’s family by seeking him with all their hearts, minds and souls and then convert to the keeping of his 613 perfect laws!
Let us not forget their is no letter or sound “J” in the hebrew, so neither does a jew exist in the scriptures, or any Jesus, OH if you would only study to show yourselves approved you wouldn’t sound like such a CNN Plant or in words you brainwashed dummies can understand, a dumbass!
#129 says it perfectly, except he forgot to mention the above about the name of Yahweh and the truth in the translation of the scriptures. I mean if anyone can tell you that their is something screwy with the King James Version bible, it ought to be the ones who speak Hebrew right?
#131 I’ve included your post in a really special letter to the christian churches I’m making that shows all kinds of truth, it’s easier to use you Jews own words and feelings than it is to try to explain things, you guys are like Gangsters man, like the smart type like on HBO’s show about the mafia! Ya know real loyal like but not all that sharp upstairs (I guess it’s easier to brainwash that type!)
#132 My friend, I wish you would check up on that prophecy man, that has already happened, Yitzahk Rabin who’s name means “the many” already signed that 7 year peace deal on 9-13-1993 with the plo using Bill clinton as witness on the white house lawn, it is called the OSLO ACCORDS or as bush calls it, “the roadmap to peace”, Rabin was assasinated and it went on pause for exactly 3 1/2 years to the date, was restarted with Bush and sharon signing it back into date and ended on 10-13-07, it took one month for the treaty to take affect. I’m sorry you missed this my friend, but we are already past this prophecy of daniels. Now we are in the part which says that Yahweh held back the nuclear baby until all of his saints were sealed with the laws in their minds!
Every day you spend on this earth right now is a gift of the creator, he is watching and waiting until his saints convert to the keeping of his perfect laws, as soon as the last one is sealed the nuclear baby will be unleashed killing 1/3rd of mankind in and around the great river euphrates! You people need to study study study before you start talking all kinds of crap man, I’ve been watching everything unfold exactly as the correctly translated scriptures foretold it would, exactly. BOY! (Book of Yahweh)
Now with that said, let us who live in the faith pray for both sides to clear their minds of hatred and repent of ever having broken even one of Yahweh’s perfect laws and convert to the keeping of his laws, otherwise the blood of messiah does nothing for you! Just as he said!, that is the only message taught in the scriptures, the true theme! In every book by every prophet and every apostle, and if your bible says anything different, you’d better get a concordance and start doing some word checking cause you’re going to look like a dumbass in the near future when the truth is revealed to you. Salvation can be found in a king james bible, but not if you let a lying preacher do the thinking for you, or a lying Rabbi for that matter, do the work yourself and you will find the creator is perfectly able and capable and willing to show you the hidden and everything else you may need. But if you go into the book looking to prove your own thoughts right , then who knows what you’ll find. Instead seek Yahweh with all your heart, soul and mind, call upon his one and only powerful name and put the gods and lords in the garbage where those pagan idol names belong. “there is but one name under heaven by which a man must be saved” and Jesus aint it people, that name is the concoction of a pope constantine from the counsol of nicea! Look it up, don’t be a sheeple dumbass!
January 5th, 2009 at 4:27 am
US & Iran, isnt that sweet. kissy kissy And who would’a thunk that christianity would ever embrace shia again haha
January 5th, 2009 at 4:36 am
ELOHEEM ( ancient hebrew )
By the way, check out EVILBIBLE.COM
January 5th, 2009 at 4:41 am
Hey RB, you’re right. But still it’s a campaign between the dark forces or dark cultures and the forces of light. I always see the light where they will always be crippled by the darkness they cast upon themselves and their people.
Hamas, hizbollah, Iran and all those dark forces will be lead to oblivion, by their own leaders. because their followers are too blind to see in that dark.
I’m trying to give a little torch here for whoever wants to pick it and see the light.
Thanks RB for being on the right side.
January 5th, 2009 at 4:47 am
Alex has contacted with praise and indicated I deserve a award for third place on dilusion and psychosis.
The award is based on the following breaking stories:
Important intelligence information!
It has just come to my attention through informal intelligence contacts that the Israeli Mossad is developing a biological weapon finaNcially supported by the Rothchilds and other prominent Jews. The characteristics and implications of this weapon are sited below:
1.0 The weapon can determine who is Jewish by decoding DNA code sequence
2.0 When activated it will desTroy all non-Jews and meet the goals of the NWO and Protocols of Zion for a world consisting of only Jews.
3.0 Immediate action must be take to stop this event
breaking news
A story is gaining high credability that Israel’s Mossad is constructing gas chambers in the tunnels in Gaza for the “final-solution”. This effort is being funded by the rothchilds bank and the NWO. The purpose is to de-populate the planet and give the Zionist Nazis more living space.
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January 5th, 2009 at 5:07 am
RB, That was a good laugh and a good answer for the ignorant alex and such like him.
January 5th, 2009 at 5:19 am
Hey, I’ll take Mr. Khaled’s word for it. If he says Gaza is that tough then that’s great news, I really hope the Israelis would think twice about all this and just pack and leave.
January 5th, 2009 at 5:23 am
I am glad that they are doing something this time, they have been sitting around and taken crap and not standing up for themselfs. And the u.s ask’s them the stay put and not fight in the past. She does not have to listen to anyone, she is a free country and has the right to fight Isreal is a sovergn state country soo go for it…kick some ass and get r done….
January 5th, 2009 at 5:37 am
Hi Doron Moron,
Hezbollah have there moral Obligation in defending the right from the evil forces within zionist regime, what you Israelies do not understand is we do not obsses about killing you but we look end tyranny that lurk behind your political aims, military aims and ideologically aims.
If you belive you are above everyone and thus you slaughter whom you wish you are the enemies of god and in the end the party of god ( hezbollah ) will send a wave of embaressment towars you and the faces of your facist and ignorant nation you unjust rejects.
Nasrallah is not hiding though he has many times come out in public though we are facing a criminal enemy that do not have boundries or rules and we are playing your game and humilating you one by one with each soldier that joins hezbollah.
Even the winagrad report was proof of your failure this is the just the beginning of the crumbling empire which was built upon a bunch of terrorists rapping and killing palestinans.
January 5th, 2009 at 5:45 am
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January 5th, 2009 at 6:12 am
Alex you should really shut down the posting bro, there are way too many aholes here talking crap about you man, it really bugs after a while, I guess if you can take it we should be able to also, but still really man, think about it man! Screw all these people talking crap about you man, why do they come here? Talk about Losers with nothing better to do!
To all you losers, don’t you have anything better to do with your swiss cheese brains? Like the neighbors dog or cat?
January 5th, 2009 at 6:22 am
RB, I live in Israel.
Hizbollah, your funny. Remember Imad mournia. That’s coming to Nasrallah in his rat hole. soon.
It’s evident you didn’t look at yourself in the mirror. You keep spitting ignorance here.
January 5th, 2009 at 6:26 am
Hey didn’t some smart guy ask what about Sheik Hassan Nasrallah, saying he was hiding 20 feet under ground or something, seems he’s not hiding but having talks with Irans chief Iranian nuclear negotiator Saeed Jalili. Man do these pro israel war guys ever do any real reading? Or do they just check into their government website for the daily allowed “things you can say to be a good citizen” button and then come over here and retype it?
I especially like it when they come on here and the ones who are braggin say how Hamas is using bottle rockets, then the other one who is working the “feel sorry for us” angle tell us they’re firing missiles and ROCKETS, well which is it? Are they no more than bottle rockets or are they missiles? Because to me they look about as accurate as a bottle rocket without a stick! I’ve never seen one of those rockets with any kind of guidance system like veins or a stick! And if Iran has all kinds of stuff that can stop american missiles and they’re supposedly supplying the stuff to Hamas, then how come they keep forgetting the pieces of cardboard to control spin and at least help the aluminum bottle rocket go in a straight line?
January 5th, 2009 at 6:42 am
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January 5th, 2009 at 6:50 am
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January 5th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Let me be very clear… No one will ever defeat Israel. I’m not a Jew, but I am a Christian and it is very clear in the God Inspired Word of God that no one will defeat Israel. You mark my words. God says no one.
Till Jesus returns (and He will)
God Bless you All
January 5th, 2009 at 7:35 am
Hroub is so cocksure He is correct. He may be surprised that his “one failure is defeat” premise is pure poppycock. The end of the effectiveness of the “spoiled brat” Hamas will soon be minimized. Hroub can postulate all his definitions of success and failure; but he will soon find out that his futile academic effort is not very pragmatic.
January 5th, 2009 at 8:07 am
219* who is god too you
is it your holy lord Jesus Christ?
guess what smart ass Israel is going to get f---ed up very soon
anyone that is agaist Allah is going down.
and very soon the Jews on Islamic land are going to die
cause Allah doesnt not like non-believers doing sinfull acts on Islamic land (in sin full acts i mean killing and bombing and s---).
Tell Me how did Hezbollah win the war a few years back in Lebanon with only a few 1,000 men?
how did those few 1,000 mean defeated 40,000 Israelie men how did they defeat the strongest tanks and the strongest air force in the middle east.
They did it with the Help of Allah (S.A.W).
ok Doron the Moron dont talk about Islam when you know nothing of it
Islam is a Religion of peace not hate and war, WE wont BOMB people for a small or stupid reason like your s--- leader did, we only fight when it is need to fight, now i dont know anything about jews so im not saying s--- about them.
but i do know that the jews were Allah chosen religion, but they stopped listing to Allah so Allah abandoned then and he choose Islam insted.
you should look up your own religion about some time between 5,000 to 10,000 years back.
January 5th, 2009 at 8:08 am
Hamas is based on an ideology. You cannot win a war against a belief. The belief always lives on in others.
This genocide Israel is committing follows the guidelines of the Final Solution to the Jewish Problem to the letter!
January 5th, 2009 at 9:25 am
# 221 “wally”, islam is NOT a religion of peace – STOP LIEYING.
here is the truth about Islam, the truth muslim doesn’t want you to know:
http://video.google.com/videop.....7772997781
i know what i say, i studied islam and red about it. by the way, i’m an atheist.
January 5th, 2009 at 10:06 am
first off let me start by saying to all those ignorant Christians ( i am christian) that the jewish people did not kill Jesus like some of you have said so lay off ” omg the jews killed jesus crap”
second this war will never be won on either side it will end like it always does a bunch of civilians being killed due to terrorists launching rockets and hiding in populated area’s causing more propaganda fed musilm’s to hate Israel further which will end in more rocket attacks on Israeli towns which cause Israel to take military action which will lead to more rocket attacks….. and the cycle will keep going.
I would also like to say to our friend wally Islam is a religion of peace so is every other religion its when you get idiots that twist it do we get wars like this. Also would you like to tell me how Israel won the 6 day war against the neighboring Muslim countries if had Allah on their side? Once again another idiot who has been fed s--- don’t get me wrong i have many Muslim friends at my school and most of them find what Hamas and groups like that to be damaging the reputation of Muslims everywhere.
I’m not backing Israel’s move here nothing will be gained but more hatred directed towards them but i hate when i see idiots falling for the crap that Hamas puts out you can’t launch rockets onto a civilian populated area unprovoked and expect nothing to happen.
January 5th, 2009 at 10:12 am
“WALLY”
SHUT THE F.. UP! YOU HAVEN’T GOT A CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. DOWN WITH ISLAM. DIE YOU ARAB RATS. DIE!!!!!!!!!!
January 5th, 2009 at 10:12 am
So far, none of Hamas’ five military brigades have yet been degraded.
January 5th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Ron Paul says STAY OUT OF IT. DONT TAKE SIDES.
(so did George Washington )
January 5th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Don’t get too excited; Hamas will never be anything close to Hezbollah.
January 5th, 2009 at 11:44 am
To “Lackster”
you are one hateful piece of s---.
THE WORLD is in a battle with the NWO
They are attacking every religion.
Allah and God are one in the same you idiot.
why on earth would you with for the death of God’s people? why?
If we are to defeat the New World Order everyone needs to put their rediculous prejudices aside.
Hamas is fighting to stay alive! they are human just like you!
I am one christian that supports hamas because they because they understand what it takes to survive and that is faith in God.
Maybe you should get on your knees and ask God for forgiveness for wishing the death of his people you sick f---.
January 5th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
You are all wrong, especially YOU! Yep I said YOU, don’t look at him, I’m talking to YOU!
and by the way wally, allah = god, but YHWH is not, nor has he ever called himself a God.
All the character of the Gods is Jealousy, Hate, Greed, Murder, Liars, Traitors, Backstabbers, and don’t forget that all must come before the throne of YHWH before they do anything!
Wally you are wrong, all men on this earth came from one family, that is NOAH’s and all are supposed to be brothers, but they sought after the gods i.e. Allah and turned their backs on YHWH, the indians did the same thing once they reached america after being chased across the bering straight by some guys with a cross in one hand and a sword in another, sound familiar?
None of your religions are peaceful, because they seek after the Gods and no god seeks after peace. The way of the Gods brings perpetual Warfare which is the Mark of Cain!
ONly the peaceful solution will bring peace, but by the look of things no one even knows what that is! Go figure. All of you god-worshippers need to dig a little deeper into the history of your religion, and don’t forget what that word means, it is a Latin word that means: To align ones self with the world!
To align ones self with the world, now if that doesn’t tell you that you are all deceived then nothing will, you are all commanded not to love the world, and to come out of her so that you don’t partake in her plagues.
COME OUT OF RELIGION, SEEK THE LOST FAITH OF THE APOSTLES!
January 5th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
www dot israelnationalnews dot com/News/Flash dot aspx/158586
IDF Warns Gaza Arabs: Get Away from Terrorists
(IsraelNN.com) The IAF dropped pamphlets over select Gaza towns on Saturday calling on residents to leave in order to remain safe in case of counterterrorism operations in the area. Pamphlets dropped earlier in the week called on Gaza residents to turn hidden Hamas terrorists over to Israel.
The letters dropped Saturday read: To the residents of the area, Due to the anti-Israel activities carried out by terrorists in your area of residence, the Israeli Defense Army has been forced to respond and operate in this area. For your own safety, we request that you leave the area immediately.
http://www.terrorismawareness......-happened/
What really happened in the Middle East.
January 5th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
People damage in Israel from just a FEW of what Al-ex calls glorified fireworks!
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=LwnAk1pTCew
January 7th, 2009 at 4:44 am
*223* WHAT IS RELIGION ?
IT Means way of life right. So being an athiest is a form of religon because that is your way and path of life !
ok dumb s--- ill tell you about Islam it is the most peaceful religion READ ABOUT THE REAL ISLAM not the s--- that some jew ass hole made up
you dont know anything mate.
*224* Allah is always with his people he helps them always
he also helps alot of other people and they dont relies it but looking though the eyes of a Muslim you can see Allah helps you in every way.
*225* good luck in life.
try to be f---ing CIVIL.
*229* thank you for telling that low life ingrade off.
*230* If you look at the monks they are not aloud to hurt ANYTHING i dont about you but i call that peaceful, and muslim are the same but if the must they will defend them selfs and they word of Allah with our lives and we will be granted a place in heaven so its not a waste it a worthy sacrfice
and if you read about the Prophet (P.B.A.H) he hate vilolence but fight if he was orded by god and will not hurt a soul off the battlefield, even if he was being hit by the enemy.
so you cant say no religion is about peace if you havet studied them
and NO we are the sons of Adam and Eve not Noah, NO MATTER HOW THIN BLOOD IS, BLOOD IS BLOOD!!!! and we are the sons of Adam!!!!
Religion has the key for every thing you just need to look hard to find it, and if you say other wise then woe on you cause if you dont no trust in Allah then he well not want you under his protection on the day of Reckoning and my Allah bring this up when you face him to for you too see that i said is truth and you were to BLIND to see the truth.
January 7th, 2009 at 4:49 am
*223* WHAT IS RELIGION ?
IT Means way of life right. So being an athiest is a form of religon because that is your way and path of life !
ok dumb s--- ill tell you about Islam it is the most peaceful religion READ ABOUT THE REAL ISLAM not the s--- that some jew ass hole made up
you dont know anything mate.
*224* Allah is always with his people he helps them always
he also helps alot of other people and they dont relies it but looking though the eyes of a Muslim you can see Allah helps you in every way.
*225* good luck in life.
try to be f---ing CIVIL.
*229* thank you for telling that low life ingrade off.
*230* If you look at the monks they are not aloud to hurt ANYTHING i dont about you but i call that peaceful, and muslim are the same but if the must they will defend them selfs and they word of Allah with our lives and we will be granted a place in heaven so its not a waste it a worthy sacrfice
and if you read about the Prophet (P.B.A.H) he hate vilolence but fight if he was orded by god and will not hurt a soul off the battlefield, even if he was being hit by the enemy.
so you cant say no religion is about peace if you havet studied them
and NO we are the sons of Adam and Eve not Noah, NO MATTER HOW THIN BLOOD IS, BLOOD IS BLOOD!!!! and we are the sons of Adam!!!!
Religion has the key for every thing you just need to look hard to find it, and if you say other wise then woe on you cause if you dont no trust in Allah then he well not want you under his protection on the day of Reckoning and my Allah bring this up when you face him to for you too see that i said is truth and you were to BLIND to see the truth.