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Falk likens Gaza to Warsaw Ghetto
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Press TV
January 23, 2009
There is more than enough evidence that Israel committed war crimes in its three week-long offensive into Gaza, says a UN investigator.
UN special rapporteur Richard Falk called for an independent inquiry into Israel’s violation of international humanitarian law.
Falk said Israel’s actions against the besieged Gazans are reminiscent of “the worst kind of international memories of the Warsaw Ghetto” which included the starvation and murder of Polish Jews by Nazi Germany in World War Two.
“There could have been temporary provision at least made for children, disabled, sick civilians to leave, even if where they left to was southern Israel,” said the Jewish American academic on Thursday.
Falk, who was denied entry to Israel in December, said Gazans may have been mentally scarred for life because Israel made no effort to allow civilians to escape.
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
Israeli officials moved closer to being prosecuted for war crimes after Norwegian medics in Gaza found traces of depleted uranium on Gaza victims, suggesting that Israel used the illegal weapons in its war on the impoverished territory, which houses some 1.5 million Palestinians.
According to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), there is a “high risk of developing cancer from exposure to radiation emitted by … depleted uranium weapons. This risk is assumed to be proportional to the dose received.”
The Geneva Convention has classified depleted uranium ammunitions as ‘illegal weapons of mass destruction’ due to their high radioactivity and toxicity.
Israel faces potential war crimes charges over its excessive use of other controversial weapons on the densely-populated coastal strip.
Human rights group Amnesty International has also touched on the issue, saying that Tel Aviv used white phosphorus munitions “indiscriminately and illegally” in overcrowded areas of Gaza.
“The repeated use [of White Phosphorus] in this manner, despite evidence of its indiscriminate effects and its toll on civilians, is a war crime,” said Donatella Rovera of the Amnesty International.
White phosphorus is a high-incendiary substance that bursts into all-consuming flames that cannot be extinguished with water, burning flesh to the bone and often leading to death.
Israel launched its Operation Cast Lead on December 27 to allegedly defend its territories from Hamas rockets, which were fired in retaliation for Israel’s violation of a ceasefire that had then been in place.
Falk, dismissed Israel’s argument that the assault was for self-defense, saying that “the UN charter, and international law, does not give Israel the legal foundation for claiming self-defense.”
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January 23rd, 2009 at 2:04 pm
What are you going to do about it?
transPhat Reply:
January 27th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
go here to find
http://www.shoebat.com
January 23rd, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Press TV? thats a reputable source, we are all going to buy right in to their bias. good work infowars. Alex Jones is the only one with his shit together over there and his organization is getting so big that quality control has run amuk! We get it, you guys all hate the evil jews and atrocities are only atrocities after years of bombings are retaliated against by the EViiiiL Israelis. get a life, did any of you stop shaving your heads when you left the aryan nations?
Brian 69 Reply:
February 3rd, 2009 at 10:03 am
Nice diversion but if the Gaza ,and the Israel were to switch places and it was the jews on the other side of that wall like in the past . Us racist redneck assholes would still Fight to free you, like we did in the past. “Be careful the shadow you cast isn’t the shadow you chase”
January 23rd, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Those people who died are in heaven now and the people who killed them will never see their faces again. As a Christian,I am appalled at the USA’s sponsorship of Terror.
You must never be afraid to confront the NAtional ZIonists (NAZI’S) about their murderous lying campaign.
Boycott all jewish products and the bar code on their products starts with #729
Peace
January 23rd, 2009 at 2:26 pm
It’s a crime against humanity what the Israeli Zionists did in the Gaza.
Their intent is to inialate Hammas with NO regard to international law.
transPhatt Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
http://www.israelnationalnews......spx/159945
UNRWA Employs Terrorists
The United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) employs terrorists, according to a report compiled by a former senior worker in the organization. James Lindsay, the group’s former legal adviser, also accused UNRWA of distributing millions of dollars worth of aid to Arabs who did not actually need it and were capable of paying for services.
The report came as the UN agency, which operates primarily in Gaza, Judea and Samaria, took heat for hiring terrorists as teachers in UNRWA schools. A report in the Associated Press revealed that an UNRWA teacher in Gaza lectured this week on waging war against Israel until the state is destroyed, and a recent report in Fox News concluded that UNRWA does not check the backgrounds of teaching candidates to determine if they are affiliated to terrorist organizations.
January 23rd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Edmond23, nobody said anything about hating jews. Criticism of Israel is not hatred of Jews. Criticism is the most loving thing anyone can do for Israel, because if they continue to commit warcrimes at will and their aggression goes unchecked, one day they will step on the wrong feet and they will face severe retaliation, if they stop commiting atrocities now they will have a better shot at preserving their precious little lives later, they may even face internal uproar if there are any citizens of Israel who care enough about human rights to speak up.
Cannot believe my eyes! Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
read this… jcpa dot org/phas/phas-sharansky-f04 dot htm
3D Test of Anti-Semitism: Demonization, Double Standards, Delegitimization
Foreword of JPSR Issue Natan Sharansky
When I was a dissident in the former Soviet Union, one of my regular activities was monitoring anti-Semitism, and smuggling out evidence and records of such activity to the West. I believed then that the free world, particularly after the Holocaust, would always be a staunch ally in the struggle against anti-Semitism.
Unfortunately, I was wrong. Today, as a minister in the Israeli government in charge of monitoring anti-Semitism, I find myself regularly summoning the ambassadors of West European states to protest anti-Semitic attacks on Jews in their countries and the often meek response of their governments.
Over the past four years, we have witnessed a resurgence of anti- Semitic activity in the democratic world. In Europe, synagogues have been burned, rabbis have been abused in the streets, Jewish children have been physically attacked on the way to school and inside schools, and Jewish cemeteries have been desecrated.
Recognizing the “New Anti-Semitism”
Moreover, the so-called “new anti-Semitism” poses a unique challenge. Whereas classical anti-Semitism is aimed at the Jewish people or the Jewish religion, “new anti-Semitism” is aimed at the Jewish state. Since this anti-Semitism can hide behind the veneer of legitimate criticism of Israel, it is more difficult to expose. Making the task even harder is that this hatred is advanced in the name of values most of us would consider unimpeachable, such as human rights.
Nevertheless, we must be clear and outspoken in exposing the new anti-Semitism. I believe that we can apply a simple test – I call it the “3D” test – to help us distinguish legitimate criticism of Israel from anti-Semitism.
The first “D” is the test of demonization. When the Jewish state is being demonized; when Israel’s actions are blown out of all sensible proportion; when comparisons are made between Israelis and Nazis and between Palestinian refugee camps and Auschwitz – this is anti- Semitism, not legitimate criticism of Israel.
The second “D” is the test of double standards. When criticism of Israel is applied selectively; when Israel is singled out by the United Nations for human rights abuses while the behavior of known and major abusers, such as China, Iran, Cuba, and Syria, is ignored; when Israel’s Magen David Adom, alone among the world’s ambulance services, is denied admission to the International Red Cross – this is anti-Semitism.
The third “D” is the test of delegitimization: when Israel’s fundamental right to exist is denied – alone among all peoples in the world – this too is anti-Semitism.
The Rise of Arab and Islamic Anti-Semitism
I am particularly concerned about the constant and growing stream of anti-Semitic propaganda from the Arab and Muslim world – including propaganda that is genocidal in nature against both Jews and the State of Israel. This should be of grave concern, not only to Israel and Jews but to men and women of good conscience everywhere. Such venom defiles the Middle East and the international climate of discourse, and makes it possible for unabashed Jew-hatred to be expressed with impunity.
Earlier this year, my office published a 150-page report on “Anti- Semitism in the Contemporary Middle East.” The study surveys anti- Semitic reporting, editorials, and editorial caricatures in the government- controlled press of Egypt, Iran, Jordan, Lebanon, the Palestinian Authority, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and the Gulf states. In the more than one hundred editorial cartoons included in this report, Jews and Israelis are invariably represented as poisonous snakes, murderous Nazis, and bloodthirsty Crusaders.
We found that vicious anti-Semitism which expressly calls for massive terrorism and genocide against Jews, Zionists, and the State of Israel is becoming more and more commonplace across the Arab Middle East. Moreover, the borders between anti-Semitism, anti- Americanism, and anti-Westernism have become almost completely blurred. The overwhelming majority of this propaganda is issued from the government-controlled media and from supposedly respectable publishing houses closely tied to the Arab regimes.
There is a direct link between the laxity with which countries have responded – or not responded – to growing Arab/Islamic anti- Semitism and the sharp increase in physical and verbal attacks on Jews and Israelis globally.
I recognize that there have been positive developments in the fight against anti-Semitism over the past year or so. The Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) has held several meetings on fighting anti-Semitism, and for the first time ever the UN Commission on Human Rights condemned anti-Semitism in three separate resolutions, which were adopted by consensus.
But these important initiatives are not sufficient to combat state-sponsored anti-Semitism, especially of the Arab/Islamic variety described above. For real progress to be made, the free world must be willing to not only publicly and forcefully condemn this anti-Semitism, but also to pursue a policy of linkage against states that support anti- Semitism.
The Need for a Linkage Policy
The effectiveness of a policy based on linkage was powerfully demonstrated a generation ago after a group of dissidents inside the Soviet Union, including myself, decided to form the Helsinki Group in the wake of the Helsinki accords – the very agreement that led to the establishment of the OSCE.
With the help of courageous leaders in the West who were willing to link their relations with the Soviets to their treatment of their own people, the Helsinki Group helped ensure that the Soviets could not take one step in the international arena without their human rights policies becoming an issue. As a result, real progress was made.
I believe that combating anti-Semitism ought to become a much more prominent issue in the bilateral relations between America and the Arab and Muslim worlds. Linkage can be used to marginalize the extremists and to encourage and support those who reject this virulent hatred.
Anti-Semitism is not a threat only to Jews. History has shown us that left unchecked, the forces behind anti-Semitism will imperil all the values and freedoms that civilization holds dear. Never again can the free world afford to sit on the sidelines when anti-Semitism dangerously emerges.
We must not let this happen. We must do everything in our power to fight anti-Semitism. Armed with moral clarity, determination, and a common purpose, this is a fight that we can and will win.
von Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Anti-Semitism. Listen, long before any Hebrews came into ‘existence’, there were people of that Mid Eastern region celebrating Summer & Winter Solstices and a festival called The Pass-Over. Do research on the facts of Ishtar, otherwise known now as Easter.
Moses and the “Israelites” paid honor to the Moon. This is why all Jewish Holy Days are after sunset to this day; it is based on the Lunar Cycles of the New Moon.
Each and evry single year, the Sun reaches its highest point in the Northern Hemisphere at the time of the Summer Solstice; first day of Summer ( Sumer; ancient Sumerians ); the Constellation of Leo / the Lion of Judah as it is known by Hebrews. The Sun then begins its descent accross the Equator and eventually reaches it’s Southern most point in the Southern Hemisphere; December 21 / Winter Solstice. After 3 days, the Sun begins to move 1 degree North…the Sun rises after 3 days.
The Sun continues moving North and when it reaches the Equator, it is the begining of Spring, hence, the Pass Over ( the Sun passes over the equator out of Virgo……Virgo the Virgin.
Of course Jews, Christians and Muslims wont be taught this….they are made to Believe everything and actually Know very little of what the stories are based on.
Tom Reply:
February 6th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
It is interesting how little we know whats really happening around the world and what we consider the truth. Our views and attitudes are shaped by todays Jew owned and controlled medias. Owning medias give you the power to influence both politicians and all citizens. Today majority of medias even in places as Estern Europe are being in hands of foreign investors.
Do we really know the truth…?
Now more than ever we need to confirm the news with all possible sources. Be it even Al Jazeera. We need to learn about all angles to every story. The truth lies somewhere in between. Years ago i was forwarded and article that gave ma a little more view at current politics of Israel(http://www.davidduke.com/writings/howisraeliterror.shtml), surprisingly enough my updated browser gives me a message:”Forbidden – You don’t have permission to access on this server”. How interesting. What happens to the freedom of speech?
That article was an eye opening. Now having some good information even on Hollocaust I can tell how media are manipulating the truth. Asking anyone what was the Second World War about most people would say that was about exterminating Jews by Hitler, hmmm….
Weren’t there any other nationalities that suffer? Most anti Hitler resistance happened on there terrain of Poland. There were nationalities such as Rusian, that lost more than 4 times the population compared to Jews, even Poland lost more population and sustained the largest damages. Why than only Israel was collecting BILIONS of dollars in payments for suffering from Germany for over 60 years(till year 2000).
Now, I can see how facts are being manipulated that Hitler’s Concentration Camps (even though they were not design for Jewish extermination, but also Slavic, Gipsy, as well as all enemies of fascism) are referred as Polish Concentration Camps, and how attempts are made to blame it on Poland to collect more payments for suffering. Poland was the only country with the law of killing a whole family for attempts to help a Jew. Yet millions of them were saved by Pols. However no one speaks of it. Instead you see documentaries how someone of a Jewish background comes to Poland looking for information on who given up hiding Jews to Germans to protect their own family from death. Slowly eye witnesses are dying out. Media already prepared the ground work.
Its interesting how little we know about current Israel politics in Gaza and how outraged some of us are if someone want to surface the truth. We never hear in western medias about Israeli attacks on Gaza and UN protected Refugy Camps. Instead we all hear how Palestinian Terrorist blows himself up. The magnitude of that cant compare with terrorism against Palestine.
Lets not call it Antisemitism, but Awakening.
January 23rd, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Isn’t it always the way? These pro-Israeli war-mongers are morally and intellectually bankrupt, aren’t they? They can’t refute facts, so they:
1) Try to impugn the source–they’ve impugned the UN, every government in every country and organization and leader which condemns Israeli actions–and there is a growing number of them–even Israelis who reject these militaristic policies.
2) They immediately fall back on the idiotic and pathetic: “we know you hate Jews” and the “right to defend itself,” and the “anti-semite” rubbish. The worst, absolute worst, is when they show their contempt for Israelis by calling them “self-hating” Jews. How arrogant.
Never, I mean never, do they ever address the factual information about white phosphorous, the disproportionate slaughter in retaliation for 13 Israeli deaths–half of which were friendly fire by Israelis–or the devastating blockade of Gaza for the past 2-3 years, which has caused rampant malnutrition, starvation, and theft of Palestinian’s goods and property, collective imprisonment of 1.5 million people in the GAZA GHETTO, along with the slaughter of nearly 1400 people and the maiming of nearly 5,000 others. Fully one-third of the victims of this Israeli slaughter were children. Most of those slaughtered were innocent civilians. None of it bothers them, so depraved are they; so blinded by hate for Arabs.
Moral Jews oppose what the israel government did. No moral person could condone the Israeli slaughter in Gaza, much less the continued obstruction of negotiations or processes for peace. The Israeli government is completely depraved, corrupt, and criminal.
Avi Shlaim, Israel’s pre-eminent historian says Israel is now a “rogue state.” There is no morality in the Israeli government; they are war criminals. They should be arrested and put on trial at The Hague.
Captive Nation
How Gaza became a Palestinian prison
By Avi Shlaim
January 26, 2009 Edition
http://www.amconmag.com/article/2009/jan/26/00009/
peace be upon the World Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
a palestinian terrorist talks about Israel
http://www.shoebat.com
January 23rd, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Just remember who voted a terrorist organization to be their government.
Also keep in mind who launched the rockets which started this war.
Ask yourself; what do I want my military to do should Mexico launch missiles over the border to America?
January 23rd, 2009 at 4:10 pm
I wouldnt want the American Army to bomb all of Mexico and then go in and kill a bunch of civilians you moron. What they did is large scale manslaughter and their is no justification period.
January 23rd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
In response to #8;
What do you want to happen if a missile lands in your front lawn from another country?
January 23rd, 2009 at 4:35 pm
ALso to #8;
as I said in my first post, just remember who voted Hamas (a terrorist organization) to be their government. These were full grown adults who knew exactly what they were doing and I’m sure they knew their childrens lives were in danger by supporting these radicals.
Personally if it was me living there, I would have said piss on all you wackos and got the hell off that old Holyland. It’s been a confusing mess and always will be until the return of the real Messiah and I don’t mean Obama!
January 23rd, 2009 at 4:37 pm
stop talking to zionists for they are just programed robots.
January 23rd, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Well there was a news that Israelis used Uranium. Where the heck are the sanctions now????????
transPhat Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
http://www.israelnationalnews......spx/159297
Hamas Fired Phosphorus Mortar Shell
(IsraelNN.com) A phosphorus mortar shell was among the 16 rockets and shells fired at Israel by early Wednesday afternoon. Gaza terrorists fired the shell at the Eshkol region. The shell hit an open area and did not cause injury.
Local officials expressed concern over the use of a new, more deadly weapon. “The potential danger is enormous,” one warned. The phosphorus shell is more dangerous than the usual rockets and mortar shells fired at the region, he explained.
January 23rd, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Well, what would you do if the rest of America built a wall around your state and wouldn’t allow any trade or anything else into your state and left you to starve. Then, just to spite you they bombed the shit out of you. You made a ceasefire with the U.S but they didn’t keep it and then they bombed the shit out of you again with illegal and highly damaging weaponry that caused killed many of your neighbours and friends.
Hamas’s crude missiles have killed less than twenty civilains while Isreal’s highly sophisticated weaponry killed thousands of Palestinians.
Yes both sides are to blame in the conflict but isn’t obvious who suffered the most damage and loss of life?
cactus of truth Reply:
February 6th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
the fighting is back and forth, yes.
BUT! if two people are fighting, and one of them is a trained kickboxer and the other is on a wheel chair, then dont u think the less powerful won is the victim and NOT the agressor?
January 23rd, 2009 at 5:14 pm
The Nazis only had SIX years……….. to do what the AshkeNAZIS have been doing for 40 years.
Propaganda and LIES have made 6 years of Nazi crimes worse than 70 years of Bolshevik war crimes or the 40 years of Zionist war crimes.
6 years !!
transPhat Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
vince k k k man
Khazar myth great article for those who are in need of some truth like you!
http://www.jewishpress.com/pri.....ntid=21499
January 23rd, 2009 at 5:14 pm
As long as the US, UK, most other European nations, and Hamas are charged with war crimes too…
January 23rd, 2009 at 5:16 pm
straight down the tubes, that’s all I got to say about the USA
January 23rd, 2009 at 5:18 pm
The difference between the Jews of Europe and the Arabs of Palestine is that one walked to their death without putting up a fight and the other is fighting back like a “wild donkey” in every possible way.
Had the Palestinians NOT been a people with a spirit to die for freedom then they would all be dead by now.
The Holocaust in Germany and the Holocaust in Palestine were both orchestrated by Zionists.
They are the synagogue of Satan.
http://www.NKUSA.org
E Reply:
February 8th, 2009 at 9:06 am
youre an idiot. you people are so scared about the zionist government that you dont even see you all are the biggest problem. Sitting at your starbucks complaining about whats going on in the world, never actually trying to find out anything for yourself. I only believe this publication or that newspaper or known terrorist media devices.”Alex jones” “alex jones” “alex jones” all you slaves shout. for you are all slaves just to the oppostite side of most people. oh and how you can compare over 6 million killed in gas chambers to 2000 killed by bombs i have no idea.
January 23rd, 2009 at 5:20 pm
There are now too many war criminals to be able to get them all. We need to pray that God gathers them ALL into one small area so we can clean up the mess once and for all.
January 23rd, 2009 at 6:18 pm
I’m vehemently anti-Zionist but we must remember that 8 Jewish human rights organizations and now, Falk,himself a Jew, have said enough is enough.
Non-jews are not allowed to citicize Israel without being hit with the ‘anti-Semitic’ ad hominem so to see so many jews leading the charge against these war criminals is refreshing.
Justice for non-jews (not just jews) is the ONLY way to fight antisemitism.
Cannot believe my eyes! Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
numb you must go here you will like this!
http://www.inthenameofallah.org
January 23rd, 2009 at 6:35 pm
they will never prosecute the jew rats. they are above the law because of all of the movies about the holocaust.
peace be upon the World Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
cotul jcpa dot org/phas/phas-sharansky-f04 dot htm
3D Test of Anti-Semitism: Demonization, Double Standards, Delegitimization
Foreword of JPSR Issue Natan Sharansky
When I was a dissident in the former Soviet Union, one of my regular activities was monitoring anti-Semitism, and smuggling out evidence and records of such activity to the West. I believed then that the free world, particularly after the Holocaust, would always be a staunch ally in the struggle against anti-Semitism.
Unfortunately, I was wrong. Today, as a minister in the Israeli government in charge of monitoring anti-Semitism, I find myself regularly summoning the ambassadors of West European states to protest anti-Semitic attacks on Jews in their countries and the often meek response of their governments.
Over the past four years, we have witnessed a resurgence of anti- Semitic activity in the democratic world. In Europe, synagogues have been burned, rabbis have been abused in the streets, Jewish children have been physically attacked on the way to school and inside schools, and Jewish cemeteries have been desecrated.
Recognizing the “New Anti-Semitism”
Moreover, the so-called “new anti-Semitism” poses a unique challenge. Whereas classical anti-Semitism is aimed at the Jewish people or the Jewish religion, “new anti-Semitism” is aimed at the Jewish state. Since this anti-Semitism can hide behind the veneer of legitimate criticism of Israel, it is more difficult to expose. Making the task even harder is that this hatred is advanced in the name of values most of us would consider unimpeachable, such as human rights.
Nevertheless, we must be clear and outspoken in exposing the new anti-Semitism. I believe that we can apply a simple test – I call it the “3D” test – to help us distinguish legitimate criticism of Israel from anti-Semitism.
The first “D” is the test of demonization. When the Jewish state is being demonized; when Israel’s actions are blown out of all sensible proportion; when comparisons are made between Israelis and Nazis and between Palestinian refugee camps and Auschwitz – this is anti- Semitism, not legitimate criticism of Israel.
The second “D” is the test of double standards. When criticism of Israel is applied selectively; when Israel is singled out by the United Nations for human rights abuses while the behavior of known and major abusers, such as China, Iran, Cuba, and Syria, is ignored; when Israel’s Magen David Adom, alone among the world’s ambulance services, is denied admission to the International Red Cross – this is anti-Semitism.
The third “D” is the test of delegitimization: when Israel’s fundamental right to exist is denied – alone among all peoples in the world – this too is anti-Semitism.
The Rise of Arab and Islamic Anti-Semitism
I am particularly concerned about the constant and growing stream of anti-Semitic propaganda from the Arab and Muslim world – including propaganda that is genocidal in nature against both Jews and the State of Israel. This should be of grave concern, not only to Israel and Jews but to men and women of good conscience everywhere. Such venom defiles the Middle East and the international climate of discourse, and makes it possible for unabashed Jew-hatred to be expressed with impunity.
Earlier this year, my office published a 150-page report on “Anti- Semitism in the Contemporary Middle East.” The study surveys anti- Semitic reporting, editorials, and editorial caricatures in the government- controlled press of Egypt, Iran, Jordan, Lebanon, the Palestinian Authority, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and the Gulf states. In the more than one hundred editorial cartoons included in this report, Jews and Israelis are invariably represented as poisonous snakes, murderous Nazis, and bloodthirsty Crusaders.
We found that vicious anti-Semitism which expressly calls for massive terrorism and genocide against Jews, Zionists, and the State of Israel is becoming more and more commonplace across the Arab Middle East. Moreover, the borders between anti-Semitism, anti- Americanism, and anti-Westernism have become almost completely blurred. The overwhelming majority of this propaganda is issued from the government-controlled media and from supposedly respectable publishing houses closely tied to the Arab regimes.
There is a direct link between the laxity with which countries have responded – or not responded – to growing Arab/Islamic anti- Semitism and the sharp increase in physical and verbal attacks on Jews and Israelis globally.
I recognize that there have been positive developments in the fight against anti-Semitism over the past year or so. The Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) has held several meetings on fighting anti-Semitism, and for the first time ever the UN Commission on Human Rights condemned anti-Semitism in three separate resolutions, which were adopted by consensus.
But these important initiatives are not sufficient to combat state-sponsored anti-Semitism, especially of the Arab/Islamic variety described above. For real progress to be made, the free world must be willing to not only publicly and forcefully condemn this anti-Semitism, but also to pursue a policy of linkage against states that support anti- Semitism.
The Need for a Linkage Policy
The effectiveness of a policy based on linkage was powerfully demonstrated a generation ago after a group of dissidents inside the Soviet Union, including myself, decided to form the Helsinki Group in the wake of the Helsinki accords – the very agreement that led to the establishment of the OSCE.
With the help of courageous leaders in the West who were willing to link their relations with the Soviets to their treatment of their own people, the Helsinki Group helped ensure that the Soviets could not take one step in the international arena without their human rights policies becoming an issue. As a result, real progress was made.
I believe that combating anti-Semitism ought to become a much more prominent issue in the bilateral relations between America and the Arab and Muslim worlds. Linkage can be used to marginalize the extremists and to encourage and support those who reject this virulent hatred.
Anti-Semitism is not a threat only to Jews. History has shown us that left unchecked, the forces behind anti-Semitism will imperil all the values and freedoms that civilization holds dear. Never again can the free world afford to sit on the sidelines when anti-Semitism dangerously emerges.
We must not let this happen. We must do everything in our power to fight anti-Semitism. Armed with moral clarity, determination, and a common purpose, this is a fight that we can and will win.
January 23rd, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Everytime the UN tries to discipline Israel, the US vetoes it. No wonder it got to this point.
January 23rd, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Don’t blame UN!
Talking with my Palestinian friends (about Gaza) there is in my opinion similarities to the ghettos during WW2.
But will the fact changes anything?
It is vital for Arabic nations to help their brother in need.
UN is at tool but NOT a solution.
You can use UN in political arena but it won’t change anything if no Arabic country moves.
Muslim world, do you really think US will help you on this matter? (It will be a compromise.)
Israel is waiting also. (They don’t “want” war.)
The ball is in your corner, use it wisely.
Don’t pass it to UN.
Be a front player!
transPhat Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
for the words of a Palestinian
http://www.shoebat.com
January 23rd, 2009 at 11:01 pm
peter dont you know that the arabic countries wont and cant help cause egypts gatekeeper for the usa is hosni mubarak
he wont allow any troops through gaza from manycountries
hes an agent for the us
ask any educated arab christian or muslim that lives in the region why they dont all come to the aid of palestine
we gotta stop nosying around in other peoples business
that is what our founding fathers did
NO NATION BUILDING
its sad but so many muslims actually think obama still is going to give everyone change for the good
but its only CHUMP CHANGE i believe
January 23rd, 2009 at 11:33 pm
Not many Jews are Zionists. Most Jews don’t even understand what the fuck is going on. That’s why they went to the German camps (the Vatican never intervened; nor did the USA, nor did the Zionist UK.) America is largely Jewish. For fuck sake are they going to do it again?
transPhatt Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
the vatican DID intervene, it helped the NA ZIs to kill the Jewish people and THEN helped the
NA ZIs escape to South America!
January 24th, 2009 at 12:09 am
israel will reap what it has sown.
January 24th, 2009 at 2:19 am
We care about international law why? is this not the whole point of getting away from the damnable UN and their globalist international law? wake up call
January 24th, 2009 at 3:01 am
beautiful interview of Dr. Finkelstein. The israelis (terrorists) are really fucking cowards. so to are the western gov’ts (terrorists) that support this cowardly nation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIr4lEIqTkM
peace be upon the World Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
http://www.israelnationalnews......spx/159945
UNRWA Employs Terrorists
The United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) employs terrorists, according to a report compiled by a former senior worker in the organization. James Lindsay, the group’s former legal adviser, also accused UNRWA of distributing millions of dollars worth of aid to Arabs who did not actually need it and were capable of paying for services.
The report came as the UN agency, which operates primarily in Gaza, Judea and Samaria, took heat for hiring terrorists as teachers in UNRWA schools. A report in the Associated Press revealed that an UNRWA teacher in Gaza lectured this week on waging war against Israel until the state is destroyed, and a recent report in Fox News concluded that UNRWA does not check the backgrounds of teaching candidates to determine if they are affiliated to terrorist organizations.
January 24th, 2009 at 3:28 am
Who cares what that festering stinking den of liars and thugs says about Israel. I wish the UN building would slide into the ocean.
January 24th, 2009 at 4:33 am
Ghetto?? Noooooooo really? It’s been a ghetto for 40 years!! The moment that muslum occupiers planted their stinking butts in Gaza their uncleanliness festered to unimaginable heights! Look at any muslum country, any of them. They enjoy living in filth.. All Israel did was move the garbage around with some light weaponry.. STOP drinking the koolaid people!! Israel couldnt have used any weaker munitions.. Anything weaker would have had to have been bought from China in the form of bottle rockets and roman candles. How about we turn back the clock and let Israel unleash the shock and awe that we unloaded on Iraq!! You wanna know who’s next? The al unser brigades.. That prick should have stuck to racing cars!!! I just hope that Israel blows up the rest of that crap hole before they go and waste our money rebuilding it. Message to the UN.. Piss off!!!
January 24th, 2009 at 7:53 am
Laws should apply to Jews just like everyone else.
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January 24th, 2009 at 8:52 am
And yet with millions boycotting Starbucks because of its connection and promotion of Israel’s militarism, on Wednesday, the multi-billionaire Zionist Oprah Winfrey, with the wife of George Stephanopoulos did a segment in a Starbucks restaurant in DC, with a group applauding it for one of its endeavors. Have they no shame!
January 24th, 2009 at 9:17 am
FCUK O”BAAA”MA BIN LADEN & AND ALL HIS GLOBAL ZIO-NEO-SCUM CRIMINAL OWNERS !!!
POWER NEEDS TO BE RETURNED 2 THE PEOPLE , BY THE PEOPLE , 4 THE PEOPLE
WHICH MEANS FOLKS , IT’S REVOLUTION TIME
INFO-WARRIORS ……………………………………………………. WE’RE IN AN EDUCATION WAR !!!
January 24th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Every one of you that mentions a state misses the point entirely.
Alex defends jews = missing the point
Alex hates jews = missing the point
Alex defends israel =missing the point
Alex condems israel = missing the point
GET OVERYOURSELVES PEOPLE! This crap is not ABOUT Alex Jones?!?!?!?!?!?!? I mean, seriously who cares!
It doesn’t change the fact that the Israeli military murder Gaza citizens for 3 weeks, unchecked. They used the same illegal munitions that the US uses in Iraq. No surprise. Its effective and horrible. It gets the point across.
Why wouldn’t they? No one stepped to tell them to “STOP”, so what does it matter if they push the envelope with illegal weapons? Its all fun and games for David Rockefeller.
January 24th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Which is why Iran needs to get that bomb… get it soon… and give to the people of Gaza who can stick it up Israel’s arse and declare it an act of self defence. Which of course it would be.
January 24th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Yeah, this is the problem with these retarted, fragments of an rogue,and, rebellious, order of “spirits,” who are known as “the ancient ones.” This is what is ment when it is said
“victim and perpetrater one in the same.”
These deranged “fragments,” litteraly take turns incarnateing as victim in one life time, and ,perpetrator in the next….but the big secret is that at the end of the day they are ALL the same fucken guy.
If You goys think it is just the physical astral that is screwed up, You should visit the astral some time ( thats the place we all go between incarnations) There are “astral advisors” there, and, they co-hurse disincarnate people to incarnate into dangerous situations under the guise of “fullfilling KARMIC destany” ….or “learning to be good, if only we had enough “experiance” …..so say, you were a child molester in the last life, right? ….these “astral advisors,” tell you that in order to searve out “KARMA” you have to incarnate as a molested child, next time….These guys have been holding sway on BOTH astrals ever sence Atlantis when they arrived here in their seraphic transports
Than when these “astral advisors” notice two people in the physical world haveing LOVELESS sex, they come and get you, and , tell you that they have the perfect situation brewing where you can incarnate in such a way as to burn off “KARMA” ……These are the ancient ones, and, their sick ass, fargments, calling the shots the same way they do here in the physical….
Problem is that the experiance of birth knocks Us all uncouncious of Our astral experiance memories, but not always…..So when one gets born into a baby’s body they do not even remember that they were EVER a “cho-mo,” in the last life…..People on the astral hide from these astral thugs as best they can, but eventualy they get found out ….just like fugitives have to allude the cops here in the physical…….AND THEY GOT ASTRAL JUDGES WHO ARE THE SAME FUCKERS WHO “JUDGE,” THE PEOPLE HERE IN THE PHYSICAL !! YIKES !!!
Sorry, Christains,” I know you all hate it when i reveal these truths, cause they got you all believeing that there is no such thing as reincarnation, this is another way that they controll Us and keep Us stupid and disconnected from Our memories
The “astral” is calapsing just as much as the physical is calapsing , and. the middle of Earth too !and, i say,
“GOOD RIDDANCE TO THIS DEVIL’S, VIRTUAL REALITY, MATRIX, …
ON NO MATTER ….WHAT…LEVEL OF REALITY IT HAS OVERRIDDEN AND POSSESSED !!!
IM SICK OF HAVEING TO HIDE ALL THE TIME FROM THESE OVERRIDERS WHO HAVE CHASED ME DOWN FOR SO LONG, I CANT EVEN REMEMBER EVER HAVEING BEEN FREE !
I CANT make this stuff up….
i just happen to be privy to some very inside scoop that other people are not aware of yet.
January 24th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
The blood that flowed in Gaza, is on the hands of Hamas.
It is Hamas that hide behind their own, as human shields.
It is Hamas that store weapons where the innocent live, work, go to school, and play.
Hamas is nothing more than a terrorist organization.
Hamas and those similar to them, are not “people with a spirit to die for freedom”
They are murderers, who fight like cowards, using brutal terrorist methods.
That’s a bigger crime than anything Isreal has ever done.
They are oppressors of freedom, and hold their own kind back.
All they want is for Isreal to be destroyed, not freedom.
Freedom was the original concept, but their methods crossed over that line long ago.
Now they are nothing more than scum
Those who choose to live amoung terrorists, will also die amoung them.
That being said, if Isreal commited the alleged war crimes, those involved should be held accountable. Personally I don’t give a damn if they were done to memebers/cowards of Hamas, as they are all crimminals to begine with. I would just hate to think any of this happened to the innocent, which I am sure some of it did.
Still, as I started off with. The blood that flowed in Gaza, is on the hands of Hamas. They started it, and the Jews ended it. At least for now.
January 24th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Smitty! Your my boy
January 24th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Raid,
Spread your lies and hate somewhere else. It’s easy to see how BLIND you are. Fool
January 24th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
MARK CHAPMAN = NATE
January 25th, 2009 at 1:51 am
Can we get press tv on our American networks ? I have seen a number of there reports they have made on gaza including the uranium.
January 25th, 2009 at 4:22 am
Another note to self: If ever at Warrior Priestess Grandma’s house, say NO to Kool-Aid.
January 25th, 2009 at 5:15 am
I find it funny when Christians say reincarnation is not possible. Saying that is technically blasphemy because they are limiting what God can do. I had a sort of vision on labour day weekend 07. I saw millions of angels and people in the sky and I had the idea that I have been reincarnated 16 times burned into my mind. I think God is real but not anything like most Chrisitains think he or she is. I think God is neither male or female. He can be both. Look at us, we are said to be made in God’s image. Man being one half and Woman being the other and together man and woman are God’s image. I wish Christians would be open to different ideas. Jesus himself was radical and revolutionary even if he was not divine. We need LOVE, GOD IS LOVE according to the bible. If we only loved eachother more we would have less of the bullshit that happens these days. Compassion is one of Jesus’s greatest teachings. Love they neighbour. Also the idea that the meek will inherit the earth is misunderstood. Those that are meek towards God and non enemies will do well. Jesus was not meek when the Pharisees challenged him. So when dealing with enemies stand your ground, but have mercy if it is warranted.
May you all live in peace.
von Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 2:23 am
In the original writings, the term ‘Elohim’ was used. It is my understanding that Elohim is not a single ‘god’, but is a one that is picked from many. In other words, the Hebrew were not monotheistic.
In the passages of the holy books, they claim ” Come let us make man in our image “. Who is the ‘us’ ? This is clearly plural and not singular. There are other interesting passages too in these ‘holy books’, ( the Torah, Qu’ran & Bible ..the Talmud too actually ) but by going back to the original language, before translations came into the picture, can show things in a differet light.
I am not religious nor a holy book thumper, but I do find some writings in these books of interests; especially as they relate here & there to other writings that are far more ancient and are in fact, thousands of years before any Hebrew, Muslim, Jewish & Christian seeds were being carried about in the scrotum of Abraham / Ibrahim. Thes 4 basically tweeked, that which had already been written long long ago by the Sumerians.
I do believe though, in some higher form of an entity and I do not believe that the 4 I listed above, (and their so-called sacred city of bloody Jerusalem ) are representative of that higher form..for the most part. But for me anyway, these ‘holy books’ do have some points of interest in them as do ancient rock art and cave drawings.
We live on an Earth that is located in a Universe that is filled with billions of Suns and Planets.
von Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 2:30 am
http://www.google.com/sky/#lat.....&oI=-1
What’s behind the Google’s blackened out area ? Surely it can’t be that bad.
January 25th, 2009 at 5:17 am
Correction: The zionists started the whole war by invading land that was not theirs. Any attacks made by Palestinians are self defense. How the hell would you like it if a shitload of illegal immigrants took your land, murdered your loved ones and then blamed all their offensives on you?! Get your head out of the sand Raid.
January 25th, 2009 at 5:29 am
Even though I had not part in the invasion of Native lands in North America I still feel bad for what happened to their civilizations. And that is how the Isreali people should feel as well.
Lee Reply:
January 27th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
So, if you feel so bad about it, why do you still live here, telling Israelis they should move? Aren’t you just as much a usurper as them? Just because you didn’t kill any, you still reap the benefits from those that did. Hypocrite!
Lee Reply:
January 27th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
And that goes for all the rest of you redneck, neo-nazis and jihadis. Ahhahu Fuckoff!
January 25th, 2009 at 5:53 am
Great vid flatron, i hope everybody watches it.
mark chapman i bet 99% of muslums are cleaner than u will ever be u piece of shit! i know u are nate because every article that says anything about israel u post your hatred for muslums. like i said before if u got some balls go join the idf and post us some pics
die in a fire bitch!
January 25th, 2009 at 9:39 am
How could peace be made when its founders established the state with the idea of ethnic cleansing ?
They could not co-exist peacefully in EUROPE and they cannot co-exist peacefully in the MIDDLE EAST .
Blaming the Muslims will not hold water for long.
“We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, ‘What is to be done with the Palestinian population?’ Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said ‘Drive them out!’”
(Yitzhak Rabin, July 1948)
January 25th, 2009 at 9:40 am
“It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism,colonialization or Jewish State without the extermination of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands.” Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972.
January 25th, 2009 at 9:40 am
“When we have settled their land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle.” Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.
“There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed.” Golda Maier Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969
January 25th, 2009 at 9:40 am
If German Jews had stood up and opposed the Nazis with suicide bombings and launching homemade rockets would history side with the Nazis or the Jewish “terrorists” fighting against their genocide ?
Is life so dear, or PEACE so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death! —- Patrick Henry – March 23, 1775
January 25th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Hopefully a threshold has been reached where good hearted Israelis do not want to be a part of a Jewish Holocaust against the Arabs of Palestine.
How many of us imagined ourselves coming the rescue of Jews in Hitler Germany ??
Now is the time to come to the rescue of the Arabs of Palestine.
Victims of yesterday are not entitled to become oppressors today.
Every generation has a “call to duty ” to stop a genocide and for us the Genocide in Palestine is our way to make sure… NEVER AGAIN
January 25th, 2009 at 9:46 am
AshkeNAZI Jews could not live peacefully in Europe and they cannot co-exist peacefully in the Middle East.
I guess we should blame everybody but them.
January 25th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
they want to attack iran, according to lindsey williams(see his video) because Iran has said they want to flood world with cheap oil, using other currencieis to, that is what is behind all this.
Lindsey says that usa will not allow cheapeor oil for us at gas stations as then agreements with other nations will falter, about subsidies, you the people are paying of the 3rd world debt at the filling stations while the banks having taking land from debted nations…
January 25th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Even the infowarriors can be blinded to the truth and the biggest veil they refuse to remove is their religion. Israel does not have a birthright to exist. Israel cannot use white phosphorous. Israel cannot attack humanitarian aid. Israel is the scum of all countries. There is ABSOLUTELY no defense for what they have done/ are doing. None whatsoever.
January 25th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Why Slave mind it cattles are quick to assume Israel had the uranium weApons .when we all know ex cept from the few inbred, that live in la-la land .that think that that the gazzanians are all innocent. I say fool cattle. Slave think that way.you Are upset because Israel decide to nuke their ass. Don’t duck with the bear and then wonder y it kill u. DUMM ASS
January 25th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
to everyone out there question since when has it been policy to get put in the middle of jewish and the never ending wars in the mid-east since isreal was founded,the answer is since the pro-zoinist neo-coms seized power here. and what happened since these wars have bankrupted this nation money wise and morally,and look at the truth it has put every american as a target in front of isreal to be used as human shields, thanks to the pro-zionist here we have been betrayed,and in this nation these very same small group of scumbags use the very same words freedom,liberty,justice,religion,ect and those very same people over and over again violate the very laws of the american constitution every day and violate every international law on the books,then they talk about a NWO( NEW WORLD ORDER) ruled by a bunch of lawless criminals in suits ,it doesnt matter if what we the american people want , all that matters is that isreal is given everything it wants and needs to do as they wish, and this one is to all the pro-zoinist here question? when this nation implodes and collaspes where and who is going to help you then? the american people are waking up and this site is one of thousands that people are bloging on,about and the day is here that americans will do what they do best and that is to fight any way possible to end the evil of this bunch in power and get back to americas bussiness and that is ( TAKING CARE OF AMERICA) AND HER OWN PEOPLE AND THEIR NEEDS UNDER A REPUBLIC , NOT UNDER A PRO-JEWISH PRO-ZIONIST POLICE STATE, WHERE THE LAWS OF THE U.S. CONSTITUTION DONT MEAN A THING to you trouble making lying murders, WITH ALL I HAVE POSTED , THINK OF THIS TOO THE WHOLE WORLD WANTS TO RIP ISREAL TO PIECES AND IS ARMING THEMSELFSTO THE TEETH TO DO THAT JOB, SO What ARE YOU PEOPLE GOING TO DO THEN IN A ENDLESS GUERILLA WAR WORLDWIDE, FOR THE VERY AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT YOUVE SOLD OUT ARENT GOING TO HELP YOU THEN YOU FOLKS THINK OF THIS, WE DONT PRODUCE PRODUCTS BECAUSE YOU PRO- ZIONIST GAVE THE ECONOMY AWAY TO THE WORLD(NAFTA) THE WORLDS BIGGEST YARD SALE, HOPE THE TRILLIONS YOU MADE ARE PUT AWAY IN YOUR BANK ACCOUNTS, BUT NOW IN THE FEEDING FRENZY, YOUR BUNCH HAS TURNED THAT ONCE POWERFUL DOLLARS INTO WORTHLESS TOILET PAPER BECAUSE YOU SEE IT WAS ALWAYS BACKED BY THE AMERICAN WORKING PEOPLES HARD SWEAT AND BLOOD NOT YOUR SHILL AND HYPE FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO AND WILL HAVE THE FINALLY SAY IN THE END FOR YOU SEE WE RUN THIS NATION NOT YOU PRETENDERS AND THE MONEY PROBLEM IS JUST ONE POINT, ITS BEST YOU CHANGE YOUR WAYS FOR I WOULDNT WANT TO BE YOU PRO- ZIONIST WHEN THE MONKEY PULLS THE PIN ON THE HAND- GRENADE ( AND ALL THESE MONKEYS ARE THE NWO BOYS AND GIRLS OUT THERE. ANSWER IS EVERY MAN AND WOMEN FOR THEMSELFS AND FUCK YOUR TWISTED SENSE OF JUSTICE, SMELL THE STINK!
January 25th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
THE BBC GLASGOW HEADQUARTERS HAS BEEN OCCUPIED BY PRO-GAZA PROTESTERS
More on this here:
http://freeandindependent.word.....-occupied/
January 25th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Like Jebus had to TELL Humans to love one another….like we didnt already have that built in mechanism ….”Love Yee one another” is like sbout the most redundant thing he coulda said….Like even if we DIDNT already LOVE one another , just him saying that we should is going to just install Love for each other??
I just hope Jebus didnt rat Us off to GOD for not “loveing ” each other….that would start alot of shit if GOD believed that we DIDNT have any Heart presents till Jebus got here….last time i checked i LOVE people so much i just swoon in LOVE for them….who needs some guy to come outa the god head and tell US about LOVE….
This Jebus story just doesnt cover its ass on SOOOOO many levels, if you realy look into it.
I hope the next time he comes to Earth he has it figgured out a little better than the last time .
January 25th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Do you ever ask yourself Why things happen the way they do? Israel all but telegraphed the world that they had every intention to bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities before Bush left office, but they DID NOT? WHY?
1.) The U.S. Government (Not the political puppets like Bush & Obama) the Real Government, assured Israel that the U.S. would take care of Iran down the road (regardless of who was President) if Iran ever got close to having nuclear capabilities.
2.) The U.S. Government gave Israel a green light to kick the shit out of Hamas/Palestinians in Gaza. 22 Days of killing over 1000 and the U.S. only blamed Hamas! And did you notice it only ended 2 days before Obama took office. (Kill as many as you can, but stop before our party.)
3.) Had Israel bombed Iran the “PRICE of OIL” would have sky rocketed SENDING THE WORLD INTO HYPER INFLATION. The price of oil below $40 a barrel is killing Iran, Russia, Venezuela, and every other oil producing enemy of the U.S. so we are far better off just letting them drown in their black gold!
Not that any of this shit matters anyway! December 21, 2012 is less then 4 years away, so we all have much bigger things to concern ourselves with. GOOGLE; 2012, or Mayan Calendar, or I Ching, or End of Times, or Edgar Casey, or Notradamus, or Saint Malachy and they all will tell you, YOU HAVE MUCH MORE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT!
Cheers from Oz!
January 25th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Not that any of this shit matters anyway! December 21, 2012 is less then 4 years away, so we all have much bigger things to concern ourselves with. GOOGLE; 2012, or Mayan Calendar, or I Ching, or End of Times, or Edgar Casey, or Notradamus, or Saint Malachy and they all will tell you, YOU HAVE MUCH MORE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT!
Cheers from Oz!
January 25th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
screw the jews.
January 25th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
ALIENS:
An alien is a physical being residing on a different planet within this physical universe.
EXTRATERRESTRIALS:
An E.T., short for extra-terrestrial; is a borderline physical or non-physical being who comes from another dimensional space-time. There are actual laws that state it is against the law for any American to have contact with an Extraterrestrial. On the same page it states that nobody can have any type of contact with dolphins unsupervised. What does that tell you about dolphins?
There are only 4 or 5 different alien groups involved on Earth at this time and allowed to come here. The aliens working with the Illuminati are the Sirians from Sirius A, Reptilians from the Draco star system (also underground on Earth), certain Pleiadian groups from the Pleiades star system, and different types of Grey aliens. A Staged Alien Invasion will be implemented in the near-future to scare the population on Earth into accepting a One World Government/New World Order. Over 90% of all UFO sightings are ships that are from Earth.
SIRIANS FROM SIRIUS A:
These tall and slender beings wear long blue and white robes. When they extend their arms straight out to the side, their bodies form an “ankh”, which is their symbol. They are the merchants of the universe, selling and trading technology and information in exchange for exclusive trade routes and special considerations. They never provide technology that might be used against them. They were created by the Ohaluans, and have lost their true purpose. They strongly influenced the ancient Egyptian and Hebrew civilizations, and now have an agreement with the Israeli government. They created the Sphynx in Egypt, the Pyramids on Mars’ Cydonia Plateau, provided technology for the government at the Montauk Project, and also wrote the original Old Testament of the Bible in Aramaic, which is coded and can only be deciphered with a computer. They perform genetic experiments, and created the Vegans as their assistants. The Sirians made the Crystal Skull, keeping its reciprocal safeguarded on their home planet, Khoom. They are seven to eight feet tall.
DRACO / DRACONIAN REPTILIANS:
Created by an ET group, the creators traveled back in time and space with genetic material to support the disintegration of the Lyraen civilization. With seven different types of Draco races, the leader group is a seven to eight foot tall winged reptilian-type creature. A warrior class is used to conquer and occupy a planet. The slender four to five foot Draco similar to a lizard performs menial tasks and aids abductions. Harsh, warlike beings who feel little emotion, the Draco have no regard for culture or other beings. Most Draco are androgynous and reproduce by parthenogenesis, or cloning. One special group that is completely male creates hybrid races that conquer others. The Earth’s Moon is a Draco planetoid placed in orbit aeons ago during the time of the Lemurian colonization. With the intention to divide and conquer, they are known to be brutal, as with Rigel by boiling oceans, scorching landmasses, etc. The Draco have vast underground bases on Earth and colonies on Venus. These are pure Reptilians. The hybrid Illuminati are in control of the Earth.
PLEIADIANS:
Also known as the Nordics, or tall blondes, these beings are from the seven star Pleiadian system that contains 15 inhabited planets, they were refugees from the Lyraen civilization. After the United States government realized in 1959 that the Rigelians had deceived them, the Pleiadians were invited to fill the technological gap. However, these beings orchestrated Hitler’s attempt to purify the human race, subverted the Buddhist religion, have an extensive underground base in Tibet, and beam Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) to various groups of humans who “channel” benevolent “space brothers” from the Pleiades. These beings are generally six to seven feet tall. The Pleidians are under a Supreme Council headed by non-physical beings appearing as robed, white figures. One group of Pleiadians, known as the Atlans, colonized Atlantis. There is a smaller blue-skinned group that works with the Pleiadians. The shorter dark-haired Pleiadians are the ones who are in contact with Billy Meier in Switzerland and are benevolent beings. In all, there are sixteen different Pleiadian groups amongst the seven stars of that system.
EXTRATERRESTRIAL BIOLOGICAL ENTITY (EBE):
These aliens were given their name by the United States Government. They appear to be plant material rather than biological, and absorb energy directly from the sun. They are approximately three feet tall.
DOLPHINS:
Dolphins are an extraterrestrial lifeform who co-exist in physical and non-physical planes of existence. They were brought to Earth from their home galaxy in Andromeda by a race called the Krell to observe and monitor the co-creation of the new Earth-human during the times of Atlantis and Lemuria.
SPACE BROTHERS COMING TO SAVE US:
There are NO space brothers coming to save us. This is Illuminati new age disinformation designed to make “new agers” sit and wait for alien or extraterrestrial group(s) to come and save you so that you do not interfere with the NWO agenda. There are no benevolent alien or extraterrestrial groups that will come and save or interfere directly with an evolving species like ourselves. If they did we would not learn from the experience, history would repeat itself, and we would attract tyrants all over again. We have to save ourselves to evolve from this. Advanced beings understand the species mind-pattern and how evolution works, that is why they will not get directly involved, and it is also why the only aliens that are directly involved on this planet are malevolent in nature and working with the government.
ROSWELL UFO CRASH:
The Roswell crash in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947 was a staged event orchestrated by the Illuminati/secret government to introduce the population to the alien presence on Earth, just as 9/11 was a staged event to introduce the population to the “terrorist” threat on Earth. There really are terrorists and there really are aliens, however they are both controlled by the Illuminati and the threat is a deception created for the New World Order agenda.
ALIEN ABDUCTIONS:
Just about all alien abductions today are being orchestrated by the secret government/Illuminati. They are doing this to instill fear into the public and imprint the population’s mind-pattern for the upcoming Staged Alien Invasion. Certain alien groups are allowed to abduct humans for this reason.
STAGED ALIEN INVASION:
In the near-future, possibly by 2010, the Illuminati will be orchestrating a Staged Alien Invasion utilizing Project Blue Beam holographic projection technology. Things are going to heat up very soon, pay attention to all UFO and alien propaganda being presented.
CROP CIRCLES:
“Crap” Circles are mostly done by the secret government/Illuminati. The technology was discovered by a scientist at Brookhaven Labs and they are complex Hyperspace archetypes. They imprint these on certain energy points to alter the Earth’s energy grid (or ley lines). They are also used as alien disinformation for the staged alien invasion and new age disinformation with fake hidden messages from space brothers coming to save the population. Crop circles are formed through radionics, psychotronics, and/or laser/light energy.
MERMAID / MERMEN / BIGFOOT / WEREWOLF:
The Atlanteans (Atlans/Lyraens), despite what you may have read in various “new age” disinformation, they were not very nice people either. The Atlanteans performed horrible genetic experimentations; they mixed human genetics with dolphin genetics and created what you have learned to be known as Merfolk, or Mermaid and Mermen. There are 3 pockets of those beings that still exist on the Earth, one of them is off the coast of the outer islands of South Carolina, the other pocket is in the Bay of Fundy in Nova Scotia, and the third is off of the Hebrides Islands in Scotland. To this very day sightings of these types of creatures still exist. They also created what you know as Bigfoot and Yeti by mixing bear genetics with human genetics, those also still exist in some pockets on the Earth. And they also created an ancient mythological creature that invokes fear even to this very day, and that is the Werewolf, and they simply did that by mixing wolf genetics with human, and that actually led to the story of the creation of Rome and the Roman Empire who claim that they are descendants of twins that were born of a wolf-mother. All of these stories and myths, both Greek, Roman, Babylonian, etc. have a basis in fact because they are based on actual occurrences. To this very day there are human beings born with webbed hands and feet or extra fingers and toes, these are all throwbacks to the ancient Atlantean genetic experimentation, which is still in existence to this very day genetically.
MOTHMAN:
This is an Illuminati hybrid creation that escaped from an underground base in West Virginia. The Mothman hybrid also may have been released into the public to see how it would react with humans, and vice versa.
CHUPACABRA:
These vampiric-type creatures are used by underground Reptilians and Greys to collect blood and organs from animals.
http://expansions.com/
January 25th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
“If German Jews had stood up and opposed the Nazis with suicide bombings and launching homemade rockets would history end up siding with the Nazis or the “terrorists” fighting against their genocide ?”
von Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Pre World War One Germany: American businesses were doing very well in Germany. Germany ( pre World War One during the Kaiser, NOT Hitler; Hitler came later ) was an economic powerhouse. Britain & Franced did not like this. America would not join Britain & France in a war against Germany.
At that time, Theodor Herzl founded Zionism in Basel, Switzerland. The Russian Tzar was in power in Russia. The Zionists tried to assassinate those of the Tzarists. Then comes the Bolshevik Revolution inside Russia. These Bolsheviks had a very strong Zionists base and were well funded. Who funded the Bolshevik Revolution and remember it was the “Trotsky=ists & Lenin that then built Russian Gulags. Who did these Zionists-Bolsheviks throw into these gulags? They threw in “Jews”….amongst others. Zionists offer up Jews and they will do the same in the MidEast to fight their wars.
The Bolshevik-Zionists inside Germany ( World War One era during the German Kaiser ) were found to be trying to start a revolution inside of Germany. They were busted and executed. the German Kaiser saw what happened inside of Russia during the Bolshevik Revolution, where they killed the entire Romanov family; the Tzarists.
The Bolsheviks eventually were successful in dragging the US into World War One and received funding thru KUHN-Loeb with Schiff contacts in America. Also see Balfour Declaration.
von Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Hertzl founded Zionism in 1897, Basel Switzerland. Between WW1 & WW2, the money-changers were successful in de-valuing the German Reichsmark. The money-changers were also funding both sides in the war.
January 25th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Brenda et al… yada yada yada…
http://www.israelnationalnews......spx/159733
Fatah Members Expose Hamas War Crimes
Fatah members in Gaza have revealed that the rival Hamas terrorist faction killed three of its ranks during a funeral procession for one of its comrades who was killed by Israeli fire in Operation Cast Lead. Fatah also reported that Hamas terrorists have killed 10 others and wounded hundreds. Lower ranking supporters of Fatah also have accused the organization’s leadership of silencing the reports because it wants to promote unity with Hamas.
January 25th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
! Thanks for this post, about the alians and all….I am SURE there were mer people on Panguia too, they were quite pityfull creatures. with one part wanting to go to the water and another who wanted to be on land. I always thought they were the result of form changeing or uncompleeted, shape shifting attempts, gone awry. We refered to them as “the mixed up beasts.” They became a real problen not only in panguia but also in Lemaria…For a while there, “the mixed up beasts ,” were begging The Father of Manifestation to ask God to help them with this form confusion, and God has helped to untwist all of this form confusion many times here on Earth, only to see it created all over again, especally now.
Alot of the people here on this site cant take the alian news, like those who only accept the cleaned up version of this reality…..Than there are the religious nuts who dont believe anything unless it was written in a 2000 year old religious doctrin…Than there are those who have so much guilt over haveing so much involvement, for soooo long, with the “alian agendas,” that they cant go anywhere near this issue except to denie it compleetly.
Glad to read some of this stuff here on this tite ass, identity christian site ….This post auta realy piss these types off : )
January 25th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
yada yada yada, is that HEBREW for etc etc etc ???
January 25th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Christian Zionists try to trademark “love thy neighbor” and Jewish Zionists try to trademark “perpetual victimhoood” .
“Christian and Jewish Zionists have a parasitic relationship, each defending the other, praising the other, meanwhile they cannot wait for the day when the other is totally annihilated.” – Anonymous
January 26th, 2009 at 1:40 am
Joe Biden said ( you don’t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist).
January 26th, 2009 at 3:44 am
Hey Warrior Princess Grandma it’s apparent we need to be told to love considering how much hate is in this world. Few of us really love our fellow men and women. The message that we ought to love another is valid and relevant to this day. And our built in mechanisim Grandma is to be selfish and to care only about ourselves, its a survival instinct. We learn to be compassionate, we learn to love our brothers and sisters. Physical love or attraction is built in, but the ability to make a lasting friendship or relationship to endure is learned. And we need to learn to love more. Especially in this time of hate and violence.
January 26th, 2009 at 5:12 am
Apartheid and Genocide (http://www.thomaspainereturns......theid.html)
In 1947, the nation of Israel was artificially created by the world’s ruling elite. It was brought into existence due to the World War II holocaust, which the ruling elite implemented. Israel’s recent history is intentionally complex so that rational discussion of it can confuse the issue of what is occurring within its borders today.
In effect, Israel is in a state of civil war. Under the current circumstances, all the people within the national borders of Israel are, in fact, the responsibility of the Israeli government. The Palestinians are opposed to continued subjugation to Israeli rule, and the Israeli government continues to subject them to absolute control under its power.
The Israeli government is responsible for everything that happens to its constituents. It has proven itself to be, at best, a neglectful parent of the Palestinians. But, in reality, Israel has been an abusive, murderous parent. This cannot be allowed.
Today, the ruling elite have used the Palestinians as fodder to distract people from the world economic crisis, by focusing on either peace in the Middle East or biblical style war. Either will fit into the schemes of the ruling elite. War or peace will suffice. Distraction is the aim.
Israel has had three generations to become a civilized nation. What is the current status of the country? It is mired in civil war, which it “solves” by walling off sections of the country, laying siege on its citizens, and sporadically massacring Palestinians when it suits the Israeli government to do so. The culmination of six decades of Israeli governance boils down to apartheid and genocide.
President Obama utilized Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King to win the White House. Lincoln freed the slaves because the law allowing slavery was morally wrong. To do this he had to break some rules whilst ignoring the American Constitution. To Lincoln, freeing the slaves was more important than following the rule of law. To paraphrase philosopher Henry David Thoreau from his essay, On Civil Disobedience, when a law is as morally reprehensible as slavery, then the law must be broken. That is what Lincoln did. Martin Luther King followed Thoreau, as did Mahatma Gandhi. These people believed in civil disobedience to right what is wrong. King sought to eliminate segregation, which amounted to apartheid in America. Obama jumped on their bandwagons, indicating that he will follow those who fought for civil rights.
But Obama continues to follow the rule of law that allows Israel to do what it wants to the Palestinians within its borders. To uphold apartheid within its borders, Israel committed another horrendous massacre of Palestinians. It was carried out until the eve of Obama’s inauguration! This was by design. Does Obama condemn Israel? Does he even reprove Israel? No. Obama wants to negotiate for peace in the Middle East by forcing everyone in the region to recognize Israel’s right to segregate, bully, abuse and slaughter Palestinians. Hence, the rule of law is morally repugnant in this instance!
Israel has clearly demonstrated that it will govern inhumanely towards the Palestinians. The solution to the Israeli civil war is to ostracize the nation and politically disassemble it. Since Israel has failed miserably to honour even the most basic of human needs and rights for its Palestinian citizens, it has forfeited its right to be a nation. It was artificially assembled and it can be disassembled when it no longer works. Thus, Israel should be DISMANTLED.
Amongst those nations that watched the massacre of Palestinians was Syria, whose government has been furtively supporting Israel and the United States for many years. Its façade has fallen. Its people support the Palestinians; the government does not.
In the midst of the upheaval in the Middle East, the world leaders are scrambling to reverse the global economic downturn. If the truth be told, most world leaders are much more concerned about the economy than the most recent slaughtering of a thousand plus Palestinians.
The ruling elite planned the global recession to advance their plan of One World Government. Now they are offering “lifeline” bailouts to failing banks and other companies. Many of these bailout offers are really nothing but disguised hostile takeover bids. Often the recipients are forced to give high-yield preferred stock for the bailouts, which dilute the common shares and could ultimately cause their common stock to be valueless. Clearly, the “magnanimous” bailouts are not life preservers at all, but instead are anchors designed to look like buoys. That is, the governments could well be procuring companies for virtually nothing. Further, the governments will borrow the money to offer these bailouts, so the governments plan on excessively taxing future generations for this elaborate and nefarious plan. When the ruling elite fully implements their plan, governments, companies and banks will all be under the same master.
In another vein, the ruling elite are rapidly moving to various strategic places to cast their watchful eyes over their chessboard. One strategic point is the shipping route through the Strait of Juan de Fuca, which will soon be watched from Vancouver Island in the north and the Olympic Peninsula in the south. Brisbane, Australia, is a blooming New World Order port. Infiltration is planned into Malaysia through Kuala Lumpur and another region.
Life under the One World Government will be like mass slavery. Soon, those who write against the New World Order will only be those whom the ruling elite allow. Lies, threats, blackmail, bribes, frame-ups and other coercion will be used to silence those who try to publish truthful information about the One World Government.
As people lose their liberty more and more, truth will be dispensed less and less. The truth should be put out now whilst it still can be done. The phrase circulating now that “We are one” can mean many things.
W.B.W. Light-Rider
January 26th, 2009
January 26th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
I wonder how long it took this genius to figure out that Gaza is a crap hole!! Ya think? Name one place muzlums occupy that ISNT a crap hole! They confiscate land like cockroaches, plant their ass, spread their worthless seed and turn the place into a cess pool. All the while asking for free handouts of course.. G_d forbid any muzlums be self sufficient. Is there any muzlum nation on earth that we are NOT giving aid to?
January 26th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
No Neil, it’s arabic for ” I hammered your camel hard in the mouth and then I smoked a cigarette”
January 26th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Yes, Nate!
The aid has to stop, just to see what happens.
January 26th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Chapman..you have to read HISTORY then you will know that palestinians { muslem-christian-jews) lived in palestine for over 1300 years. then it was the Zionest idia to creat israel.zionest terrorest gangs start killing they still killing for the last 92 years.they will achieve nothing.palestine will be liberated even after 100 years.
January 26th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Nate828: You were made in your fathers image. Adam was the only one made in God’s image.
January 26th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
Fuck you Terry! I am God. Yo were all made half-ass in my image. By the way, I would like to point out a flaw in one of my recent posts. While actually doing research, I discovered that their are in fact many muslim nations that we don’t give aid to. Look, I must confess that my hatred comes from the fact that I was raped by brown skinned people at the tender age of 32. I find it convenient to just blame muslims for my own shortcomings. It helps me to bury the trauma. Deep down I know that I’m wrong.
January 26th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
No goddammit. I retract my last post. I thought about it and don’t like what it says.
January 26th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Wait, no, I meant it all. No, wait, I didn’t. I mean, no, wait, I’m not sure… no, I mean, FUUUUUUCK!!!!
January 27th, 2009 at 12:06 am
Someone here is using my name and it is NOT funny. You’re making me look like a stupid DOUCH BAG! I’ll have you know I am NOT stupid. As a matter of fact I am very highly educated. I have almost 12 years total edumacation. I am also extremely well cultured. I have travelled; man have I travelled. I have been to…here and there, and have met many people from…here and there. I have discovered that when I meet people face-to-face, the ones I despise the most, deep down, are the ones that are reflections of myself. I have come to the conclusion that it is because they are trying to copy me. So you see I am not stupid. So stop laughing at me! Fuckers!
January 27th, 2009 at 1:45 am
Refusing to serve in the IDF
http://www.radionetherlands.nl.....er-Goldman
by Dheera Sujan
22-01-2009
Listen to the audio fileOmer Goldman is 19, she’s Jewish, lives in Tel Aviv, she’s a pretty girl and it’s not hard to imagine her fulfilling her ambition to one day be an actress.
Omer Goldman
Omer Goldman: Choose to go to prison rather than serve in the Israeli army
But since she was eight years old, she also had another dream – she wanted to work with an organization like Amnesty International, hoping she could help make a better world. Right now, her way of doing that is by going to prison. Choosing to go to prison rather than serve in the Israeli army – a compulsory requirement for all young Israeli citizens.
And Omer Goldman was not destined for prison. For most of her life she thought she’d join the army, and become a hero for her country. After all, her father is a former deputy head of Mossad, and still considered one of the most powerful men of the Israeli security establishment. Her older sister and most of her friends all did their military service without question.
But the second Lebanon war began to change Omer’s mind. She visited Hebron, and started going regularly to the West Bank and saw how Palestinians lived, how they were treated.
Protest group
She took part in demonstrations, and she was with a protest group in a West Bank village and they were trying to pull down a checkpoint that had been built unnecessarily in the middle of the village
“It shouldn’t have been there”, she says, “they only put it up to harass the villagers.” And suddenly the soldiers started firing on the group of demonstrators.
“This is the army that I was brought up to think was protecting me, helping me”, she says, the shock of the event still evident in her voice. She was shot in the hand by a rubber bullet, and knew then and there that she would never wear the uniform of a force that committed such actions.
Meaningful time
On the day she was supposed to sign up, she turned up with about a hundred supporters. And she publicly refused to join the army. She was immediately taken to a cell, and then to a military court where the judge – a high ranking officer – tried to convince her that she could become a soldier and change things from the inside.
“You could give toffees to the Palestinian children on the checkpoints”, he told her, apparently without irony. Her reply – “giving out toffees doesn’t change the fact that I will be there illegally” – so incensed him that she was immediately given a harsher sentence than other conscientious objectors who stood out that day.
Omer has spent two spells in jail – despite her fear of prison, and her acknowledgement that it was an awful experience to be locked up in a middle sized cell with forty other women – she says that in retrospect that time was amongst the most meaningful in her life.
Shunned by friends
Omer is now exempt from conscription on medical grounds, but she continues to turn up to demonstrations, to speak out against what she sees as injustices committed by her countrymen and her government on an innocent civilian population. Her stance has cost her dearly. Friends have shunned her, strangers have physically attacked her, and her father refuses contact with her anymore.
So then why keep on? Why take such a stand? Her answer is firm. “Because when this Occupation ends – in twenty years or thirty, though I hope it will be sooner – I want to be able to say I did something, that I didn’t just stand by and watch this injustice…my being in prison has not helped one Palestinian I know, but at least I made a stand for what I believe to be right – to say that violence is not the answer.”
January 27th, 2009 at 4:04 am
God damnit Nate! You stole my name weeks ago and now you claim that your name was stolen?! You are a sad man.
January 27th, 2009 at 4:21 am
Hezbollah should try and build a nuke too
January 27th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Nate, you got serious problems my friend. You obviously don’t have your head on straight.
Nate828 Reply:
January 27th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Do you mean me or the other nate cdi?
cdi Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 11:19 am
…other nate…
Nate828 Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Sweet!
January 27th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
there is nothing more anti semetic than zionism
January 28th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Those who hate ISRAEL/JERUSALEM/ JEWS Hate GOD……..
Nate828 Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Those who hate an over aggresive nation’s leaders are NORMAL!
I don’t hate Jews in general. I hate their leaders who have no concern for the people, Jewish and Gentile, they harm.
January 28th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
To All Jew haters……
I challenge ANYONE at this site to do a google search on the following….
“Palestinian Contributions”
It will take you no time to discover that the only contributions made were TO the arab rats.
Why has an entire society, NEVER contributed ANYTHING positive to man kind.
Annihilate the filthy arab sewer rats!!!!!!
In reply to Lackster, Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
You talk about a society not introducing anything positive to mankind, though you like to talk about Arab sewer rats. Thats very positive thanks for discrediting your intentions and stance.
yabble dabble Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
How can the Palestinians make any contributions under economic sanctions and abject poverty? Israel receives billions in FREE money and economic aid, and what do they contribute? Weapons of War?
January 28th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
to “no name”:
you have no stance at all, spineless monkey
fair enough with the rat comment though. however, i am not here to support a stance, give credit to an idea. i am simply stating a fact. if we are “pigs, dogs and less than human” and “desrve to have our heads cut off, for not believeing in an enormous lie (islam)”. then to hell with the filthy arab rats that spew that type of hatred.
Sam Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
In reply to your message,
You dont support a stance or give credit to an idea because you have none, what you are implying is brain washed rhetoric. Where does it say that muslims believe you are pigs and less then human and deserve to have your heads cut off ?? Are you watching fox news ? Or listening to Wahabist muslims spread their hatred ? Anyone who says that about a Jew or christian is not a muslim at all.
Do not say Islam is a lie, when you have no proof it is a lie ?
Tell me what you know about Islam ? besides what you see on fox news and from radical Wahabists in Saudi arabia and Afghanistan and many of the gulf states ?
Have you head of Shia muslims ?
Answer these, if you have a statement to make otherwise you are just blindly typing away spewing hatred.
lackster Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Well the Wahabist voice are much louder than any moderate arab voices. One can only conclude that if shia, shiite or any other muslim sect does not agree with wahabist, they certainly do not take a stand against it.
WITH THAT I GIVE YOU THIS….
Even IF the Quran of today were a carbon copy of the one originally dictated by Muhammad, it does not logically follow that it is from God. Irrespective of the quality of today’s copy, the internal and external inconsistencies in the Quran disqualify it as being from God.
We have already pointed out some of the mistakes in the Quran. The Quran itself says that if a book is found to have discrepancies, it could not be from God (Sura 4:82). In fact, there are many internal contradictions in the Quran. Here is a sample:
The Quran teaches that on the one hand “no change there can be in the Words of God” (Sura 10:64, also 6:34). Yet the Quran itself teaches the doctrine of abrogation.
The Quran claims that humans are responsible for their own choices (Sura 18:24). Yet it also claims that God sealed the fate of all in advance (Suras 10:99-100, 17:13).
The Quran says emphatically, “Let there be no compulsion in religion” (Sura 2:256). Yet in other places it urges Muslims to “Fight those who believe not” (Sura 9:29).
Sura 7:143 says that Moses was the first to believe. Sura 6:14 says Abraham was the first to believe.
Suras 7:54, 10:3, and 11:7 say the earth was created in six days, but Sura 41:9-12 says it was created in eight days.
The same Mary (Miriam in Hebrew and Arabic) is not both the mother of Jesus and the “sister of Aaron” who lived hundred of years earlier (Sura 19:28).
In an apparent contradiction, the Quran denies the divinity of Christ, yet acknowledges that Jesus was born of the Virgin Mary (Suras 3:37-45, 19:16-28, 66:12). The hadiths further acknowledge that Jesus was not touched by sin (Bukhari 4:506). An obvious question is: How could Jesus not be divine if he was born of a virgin and was free of sin?
von Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Much of what the Hebrews, Muslims, Jews & Christians read from, are derived from Ancient Egypt and the Ancient Sumerians that existed before the time ‘these books’ were written.
von Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
The Qu’ran states that from Adam to Mohammed, all were (are ) prophets. This includes Jesus/Isa as being a prophet. The Qu’ran and a Bible both believe that Jesus/Isa was born of a virgin Mary/Meriam.
Religions have it that Cain murdered Abel. As the writings go, Cain was forced to leave the area and he journeyed to another land and there he took a “wife”. Since, as the writings go, there were no others about other than Adam & Eve, whom did Cain take as a “wife”?
There is much evidence to support that the “Israelites” were paying respects to a volcano.
Viva Israel! Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Lackster, Is this you NATE? My buddy? where you been?
January 28th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Zionist Jews who are dual citizen Israeli / Americans inside our government orchestrated 9/11 and murdered 3,000+ innocent Americans.
Jewish masses may not have known what was going on at the time but NOW they are doing all they can to help cover up the crime.
Every Israeli Jew who helps to cover up Israels role in 9/11 is as guilty as Rumsfeld, Silverstein and the other Vampires involved.
Every Jew who controls the media and works to confuse the masses is guilty of murder on 9/11.
Watch these Jewish sleeper cells. They have pledged allegiance to Israel so if a Mossad agent comes to their home they are obligated to supply him with FULL moral and material support.
January 29th, 2009 at 11:48 am
This is good Sam, let us continue our discussion, with respect and honor. At the end maybe you can be pulled away from that which you cling to as truth, Islam. I am here to help expose the lie, if in the end you are wrong, I have helped save your life, if in the end I am wrong, well never mind, the proof is undeniable, allow me to share it with you, regardless of the bitter taste it may leave in your mouth.
yabble dabble Reply:
February 4th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
“help to save his life!
Hoorah for salvation brother!
Can I get an AMEN!
January 29th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Prophetic Evidence. Some 2000 biblical prophecies have already been fulfilled, including over 300 about Jesus—with no prophetic failures. The probability of just 16 predictions being fulfilled without an error is 1 in 10 to the 45th power. For 2000 predictions to be correct without a failure is an inconceivable probability number. There is nothing at all like this in any other holy book.
Can this be said about anything in the koran? with the exception of the parts of the Old Testament, which the muslim pick and choose from……..
I think not! There is more, let me know when you can no longer stomach this…..
January 29th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
This ones for you SAM!
There is a significant difference between the founders of the two religions. Muhammad was a sinner. In Suras 40:55 and 48:1-2, Allah tells Muhammad to ask for forgiveness for his sins (translated frailties in some translations.) Certain sins of his are mentioned in Bukhari 1:234 and 8:794-796, which include cutting off people’s limbs, burning out their eyes, and making them die of thirst. Other mention of his sins are found in Bukhari 1:19, 711, 781, 3:582, 4:319, 7:1, 8:319.
von Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
for more info on a bible evilbible.com
yabble dabble Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
jesus was also a sinner. During the years of his life which are missing from the bible, Jesus was smoking ganja and getting blowjobs from Marry Magdeline.
Nate828 Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Where’s your cold hard evidence of those actions Yabble Dabble?
lackster Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 10:54 am
Your opinion of the Saviour of this world my have effectively condemed your soul to hell “dabble”, if you do not learn to say Amen, soon my friend, you better start screaming ouch, i hear it gets hot were your headed.
yabble dabble Reply:
February 4th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Oh dear, I’m going to hell.
Hoorah for salvation brother!
Can I get an AMEN!
January 29th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Sam, would you still like to hear what I know about islam?
January 29th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
It is time that Israel be disbanded. We should move all the “jews” in Israel to Birobidjan the true jewish homeland and cancel WWIII
http://www.birobidjan.co.uk/
January 29th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Christianity also stands opposed to every spirit that has turned out well; it can use only sick reason as Christian reason, it sides with everything idiotic, it utters a curse against the spirit, against the superbia of the healthy spirit. Because sickness is of the essence of Christianity, the typical Christian state, “faith,” must also be a form of sickness, and* all straight, honest, scientific paths to knowledge must be rejected by the church as forbidden paths.
Even doubt is a sin.
-F.W. Nietzsche
lackster Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
This is a general “blanket” statement, that may have applied in the dark ages.
I can not see it applicable to modern times, as the Bible IS the Inspired word of GOD, proven not by our selfesh desire to understand everything, but time tested and validated by the promises of GOD Almighty, through HIS word. It is through faith, that we may all be spared.
yabble dabble Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
This person is WIEEEEEERRRRRD!
lackster Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
wierd compared to what?
to what you believe in.
you come into the middle of a conversation, and sling insults!?
get lost douche bag!
lackster Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
i see now why the things i say seem “wiiieeeeeeerrrrd” to you.
the truth has got to sound wierd to a person who has not been exposed to it!?
good luck to you dabble
yabble dabble Reply:
February 1st, 2009 at 1:07 am
…and good luck to you too sir. You’re going to need it. That perpetual internal dialogue that you have in your head every waking and sleeping moment is going to take its toll on you. You know, that part of you that’s always judging and anticipating the actions and intentions of others. If you don’t get it under control, the whole world will pass you by until you realize one day what a miserable and lonely person you’ve become. That’s the REAL TRUTH. You are living a life of slow suicide.
It’s never too late to have a dose of humility and wake up! Good luck and may God help you.
yabble dabble Reply:
February 4th, 2009 at 11:54 am
“Through faith we may all be saved!
Hoorah for salvation brother!
Can I get an AMEN!
January 29th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
so “dabble” do you actually have ANYTHING inteeligent to add, or do you rank among the other deluded ghost in these blogs??? Do not fool yourself, it will get just as hot over there on the East coast too!
yabble dabble Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
When I see a lack of intelligence in posts, I just can’t seem to control myself and have an unyielding urge to post like-wise type gibberish.
Yes, I DID come into the middle of a “conversation”. While not outright stating it, the comments I read solidly imply that you feel you are better than an entire group of people based on your religious preference over theirs. If that is not what you are implying, then at the very least you are creating a division based on your beliefs being opposed to theirs. This type of ignorance is the root of all evil. You see, there is no black, white, christian, muslim, whatever. There are only two types of people: The Good, and the apathetically ignorant. Period. What are you? If you are good, I could put you in a room with a muslim man and you wouldn’t be the wiser. You might even become good friends. Unless it was discussed, you would not know each others religion.
You are entitled to believe what you want about god, creation and whatever else strikes your fancy. If your beliefs make you a better person, god bless you. If the way you practice your religion is making you self righteous to the point that you feel holier than billions of people you have never met, you probably should think about studying “yourself” a little harder. I’m not particular to any specific religion and I’m not a scholar of the bible. However, I’m pretty sure that if you were having a conversation with Jesus and said “…Arab rats…”, you would definitely NOT be on the guest list to the Last Supper. Those words would never pass his lips; what makes you think it’s OK for you?
You point to other people in this world as being the problem, but you are just the other side of the coin. It’s people like you who give religions a bad name. The hypocrisy is disgusting. You are not worthy of one who follows the word of Christ. You are a disservice to his name. No one should have to explain to a grown man, the fallacy of stereotypical thinking. You should know better. Do you honestly think that all you have to do is go to church, know the bible front to back, call your mother on mothers day and that all makes you good and right? Sorry to disappoint you but it is not that easy. There are plenty of non-religious people out there that GOOD. These are the people that you can’t look in the eye, and they have a much better shot at your idea of heaven than you could ever hope for.
How selfish of you to even call yourself a christian just because you want salvation. You want it so bad you can taste it. Do you even consider that having compassion for your fellow human beings might be a more important endeavor of your religion than the quest for salvation? Who’s the deluded one here?
lackster Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 11:43 am
well, i see it more like this….call a spade a spade.
a number of entries here simply ignore the facts as they stand.
to begin with, in an effort to better understand the differences between the “religons” and “beliefs”, i ask anyone to show what positive “outward” contributions have come from the “Palestinians”. it has yet to be done. with that, and the fact that a “Holy” war has been declared upon those who do not believe in islam. if you dabble have not grasp this concept, you are way behind. this is a fact, i did not make this up, it is this evil idealology that forces me to stand on truth, NOT religon. i have nowhere in my post claimed a religon. with very little effort, islam at it’s most infantile form, can be proven false. i make no claim as to being “holier” than billions of unknown people. it is unfortunate that billions of people have been decieved into buying this distorted view of GODS truth. GOD has hidden the truth in plain sight, The HOLY Bible, if you were to become a scholar of the Bible, you would see that false religons, prophets, and such are foretold. why not stand against this? at the end of the day, i agree with you. two types of people, good and ignorant, what i see are a bunch of ignorant, arab rats, mounting an all out assault on the good people of this world who believe in the freedom of choice to worship who they choose, and a society were they are free to speak. you may want to go ahead and step out of your utopian world for a miute and consider becoming a Bible scholar, just may save your life! so long friend!
sam Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 11:50 am
I do not know where my comments are………
lackster Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
in parts of the middle east, if you are not muslim, you would not be aloud to stand.
here’s an idea “dabble”, take your view of the world and visit some of these middle eastern countries. you would not last a second. if your think muslims share your viewpoint you are truly deluded, fooling yourself as to this worlds condition will not remove you from the coming judgements. just a thought
sam Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
My comments are not showing up, lackster if you would like to discuss Islam i would be more then willing. Please send an email to me on hasunited@hotmail.com.
yabbble dabble Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
I have been to middle eastern countries. Where have you been? DOH!!!!
yabble dabble Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
I know Christians. The ones I call “friend”, I would define as “Good human beings”. They are nothing like you. You sir, are not a Christian or a scholar of the bible. You can quote all the passages you want just like Adolph Hitler did. But you have failed to distill and comprehend the essence of it.
yabble dabble Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
lackster said: “the fact that a “Holy” war has been declared upon those who do not believe in islam. if you dabble have not grasp this concept, you are way behind. this is a fact, i did not make this up, it is this evil idealology that forces me to stand on truth, NOT religion.”
You should really quit before you get further behind. You’re making an ass out of your self.
If you’re referring to the Israel/Palistine conflict, that was the government of ONE nation pushing for a holy war against the AGGRESSORS of the conflict. You again make a blanket statement that “assumes” ALL Muslims have declared war against ALL non-Muslims.
OK. I feel stupid now. I’m sitting here arguing with a child through the internet. So long.
lackster Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 10:18 am
Good Morning “Dabble”
well i refer to not only Israel, but to 9/11, 7/7, Mumbai, Kobalt Towers, USS Cole,
Nairobi, Kenya on and on. When this shit started in the late 70’s and 80’s, why didn’t the moderate Muslims stand against the “Wahabist” then.
If you are a vet (like you claim) you have now exposed yourself as a traitor.
Keep spilling you misguided view of the world “Dabble”, maybe some day enough people will listen to you and we can all be perfect just like you, until then, i will continue to expose Islam for what it is and be a soldier in Christ.
You should never refere to yourself as a soldier again, you are a TRAITOR!!!!
lackster Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:15 pm
fuck “dabble” please get over here so i can keep bitch slappin you with history lessons.
quit trying to spin the past to suit your warped vision of this world.
your road to hell will be paved with your “good intentions”
yabble dabble Reply:
February 4th, 2009 at 11:55 am
“The Bible just may save my life!
Hoorah for salvation brother!
Can I get an AMEN!
yabble dabble Reply:
February 4th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Thank You Lackster for another excellent example of your hypocritical double-speak.
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LACKSTER SAID: quit trying to spin the past to suit your warped vision of this world.
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that what you’re doing in this very post? I would LOVE to see you try to back up your claim that 911, 7/7, Mumbai, Khobar, etc on and on, are evidence that the general muslim population (not radical extremist groups)has declared a holy war against us. Bring it you silly little boy!
Further, if you could explain to me in concise detail how I’M the one spinning the past, that would be great.
So who has a greater chance of going to hell: A man who believes in salvation but has no virtue in his life, or a man with great virtue and compassion who unknowingly follows the example set forth by Jesus without ever giving a thought to his own salvation? Can you answer this? Just because you believe in salvation and the bible, does not make you worthy of being saved. What virtuous deeds have you done lately? If I’m going to hell for who I am, they definitely have a special place reserved for you. For a person who alludes great knowledge of scriptures and salvation, it’s sad that you’ve already got one foot in hell.
January 29th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
*Intelligent
January 30th, 2009 at 2:06 am
Some good points on religon but your other posts make me less inclined to care about what you have written.
lackster Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 11:51 am
well if i am wrong, please help me see the light……
Nate828 Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:40 am
I meant dabble.. sorry dude.
lackster Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 10:19 am
groovy, peace Nate!
it’s getting hot in here!
January 30th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
“dabble” you are right, i could be friends with a muslim, until the point were we have to stop the conversation, face mecca and pray to aallllahlahlahlah 5 times a day.
it would be at that point that according to the koran we would no longer be equals, i would have two choices to die or even worse…convert.
when you call your mom on mother’s day, ask her how she feels about covering herself from head to toe, not driving, not excelling herself intellectually so on and on and on.
wake up my friend, you are blind…..
yabble dabble Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Here we go again.
Do you even understand what it means to stereotype? Your argument is so ludicrous, I almost don’t want to respond. It’s like trying to point something out to a child.
I have known muslims while serving in the US Army (some right along beside me) and have muslim friends now that I’m out. None of them have ever demanded that I pray 5 times a day. None have ever demanded that I convert or die. Where the hell do you even come up with this nonsense that ALL muslims are like this? Do you use this broad brush with everything in your life? For god’s sake leave your living room and get out to and meet people. Using your reasoning, I could call you a child molester because you are christian. You see how this works. Muslims are not the problem- YOU are the problem. I’ll say it again, “YOU GIVE CHRISTIANS A BAD NAME”. How many muslim people have you ever met? Enough to say that you’ve met them all?
You probably didn’t even read my entire post because it hurt too much. You have no comment about your search for salvation or how Jesus would feel about your comments.
Oh, and please don’t flatter yourself by referring to me as your “friend”. My friends are all MUCH more intelligent than you Mr. Child Molester.
lackster Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 10:26 am
“dabble” come on dude, “child molester”, i think someones guilty conscience is creepin up on them, good luck with that one.
On the other hand, I am not here to justify MY salvation, it is mine and mine alone, you don’t worry about that.
The only thing I can do to help you now, is once again to recommend you become a scholar of the Bible.
I read everything you write, it does not hurt, scare or intimidate me, quite the opposite!!
It is really hard, no matter how eloquent you write, to take some one who has obviously no concepet of truth, serious.
You would make a school teacher, some one who thinks they can manipulate childish minds, with NO idea of reality. Continue to ignore the facts on the ground, all the while, molesting chiledrens minds, with your utopian world view.
You, MY FRIEND, still have not addressed my challenge to you, so you go back and read my posts, from the beginning, then get in the game.
yabble dabble Reply:
February 4th, 2009 at 5:07 am
Can you honestly not see why I made an example with the “child molester statement”? Wow! Right over your head!
yabble dabble Reply:
February 4th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Your right. You are NOT here to justify your salvation. However, in the end it appears to be the only real reason you cling to your “chosen” beliefs. Since this is based on another post that went way over your head, allow me to bring it down to your level of comprehension.
You quite often mention salvation as the justification for our arguments. Not my words here, all yours. go back and reread your posts. It seems to be the only reason you study the bible. Honestly, what else do you get out of it. From what little familiarity I do have with the bible, I see some very wise lessons in it. I find it sad that your personal salvation is the only thing you really get out of it. Believe me, I am NOT worried about your salvation. I could care less. But, you’ve got to ask yourself why that seems to be the underlying theme of the Gospel According to Lackster.
Seriously. What other message do you get from the bible? Love thy neighbor only if he’s like you? Thou shalt not kill unless they’re arab? Now do you see why I mention your “salvation fixation”, or was this too complicated for you to understand?
lackster Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 10:43 am
You just sound desperate at this point “Dabble”.
after conversing with you, I am going to RUN to the nearest store get some ammunition, some pigs blood, put the two together, and wait for you and your muslim friends!!!
lackster Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:02 pm
well i did not need to look up “PRETENTIOUS”, after reading your post here, YOU are the definition.
I could see were you would also call me a child molester, cause i have repeatedly molested YOUR childish mind.
January 30th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
i would bet my south african kruggerand you voted for obama did’nt you “dabble”
yabble dabble Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
This is very typical of you to make assumptions jsut like you do about everything else you’ve commented on. That seems to be all you have is assumptions and no real worldly experience with anything. You are the typical Wikipedia/Book Scholar. All information, no experience.
I didn’t vote. (Can’t wait to read your reply to this one)
lackster Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 10:29 am
again dipshit, i ask a question, you obviously have no answer for. then change the subject.
i know all about stereotypes, i am white and my dad is black….
if you did not vote, you sir have no valid argument with me, carry on molesting children, traitor!
lackster Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:05 pm
another fine example of “PRETENTIOUS” thinking from our gay, arab loving friend
“DRIBBLE _DABBLE_DICK_DRIBBLY”!!!!!
yabble dabble Reply:
February 4th, 2009 at 5:10 am
Thank you for helping me to prove to everyone here that you really DON’T know what pretentious means.
January 30th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Sam,
That is very noble of you! You have earned my respect. However, this late in the game my friend, i will have to decline your offer. I have, through my years of seeking the truth, amassed a collection of resources from which i have read, listened to or watched. I also watch Link Tv’s Mosaic news, produced by Arab’s for Arab’s. I endure this propaganda, in an honest effort to be informed, fair and balanced. It is these resources, that are released directly from “the horses mouth”, that not only enforce my beliefs, but set my heart on fire for them! peace to you and yours!!!
yabbble dabble Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Sam, why would you even care if you have this guys respect. I wouldn’t want it. It’s worthless and means nothing.
Allow me to do a little cutting and pasting:
I have, through my years of seeking the truth, amassed a collection of resources from which i have read, listened to or watched such as Jim Jones and Jim & Tammy Baker. I also watch Jimmy Swaggart, The 700 Club and Pat Robertson to name a few, produced by Christians for Christians. I endure this propaganda, in an honest effort to be informed, fair and balanced. It is these resources, that are released directly from “the horses mouth”, that not only enforce my beliefs, but set my heart on fire for them! peace to you and yours!!!
von Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Every year the sun dies in the Southern Hemisphere / December 21st ) and rises again again after 3 days. Its called the Summer ( Sumer ) Solstice when the sun reaches its highest point in the Norther Hemisphere, & the Winter Solstice. When the sun gets to the Equator each Spring, its called Pass Over. Pisces is leaving its Equatorial alignment. Yes, a new order is coming. It happens every 1250 years.
von Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
correction: 2150 years; not 1250
lackster Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 10:30 am
nice try dork…..
again I ask you, what do you believe in “Dabble”, it is your salvation you should consider.
yabble dabble Reply:
February 4th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Hoorah for salvation brother!
Can I get an AMEN!
January 30th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
I WONDER………
How can 2 million blacks get into Washington, DC in sub zero temps in 1 day when 200,000 couldn’t get out of New Orleans at 85 degrees with four days notice?
yabble dabble Reply:
February 1st, 2009 at 1:36 am
Hey Lackster, do you ever go back and take a look at the way you write? Please don’t take this as and insult, but you should look up the word “PRETENTIOUS”. It describes you perfectly. I only point this out because I’m trying to help you. I realize that you alone will decide whether or not to acknowledge this. The greatest obstruction to change is a persons unwillingness to face themselves. It takes an extraordinary amount of strength and courage to look deeply at yourself. Most people exert a great amount of energy covering up their faults instead of dealing with them. If everyone saw themselves clearly, humanity would have very few problems. Unfortunately, most choose not to see.
Look that word up, then look deeply. Have no fear. Good luck.
February 1st, 2009 at 12:32 am
I would like to ask the moderator to please send me an email as to why my comment will not poste. I have not said anything wrong, racist or facist.
February 1st, 2009 at 12:39 am
Gaza is like the Warsaw ghetto.
Did the Warsaw received 10 billion dollars in United States funds?
Was the Warsaw ghetto armed to the teeth by United States?
Did the Warsaw ghetto fired 7 thousand rockets at the Nazis?
Did the Warsaw ghetto have palaces?
Was the Warsaw ghetto on the dole for over 60 years?
Did the Warsaw ghetto have a constant supply of food and materials from the United Nations, the Arabs, Iran, and Israel?
Remember: 8 Israelis have been killed by kassam rockets many other injured including one eigth year old boy Osher, had his legs blown off. A guard outside of defense Minister Peretz residents had his legs blown off also.
1/3 of Sderot residents have evacuated.
Is this acceptable to you, would you like to live like this?
Nate828 Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:44 am
The JEWS INVADED PALESTINE IDIOT!!!! And the Jews have killed many many Arabs since 1948.. The Zionist Jews have had very light casualties. Also the terrible Ghetto like conditions the average Palestinian faces are because of the blockade by Isreal. This is my point to you Isreal lovers:
JUST BECAUSE YOUR PEOPLE WERE ETHNICALLY CLEANSED DOES NOT MEAN YOU CAN DO THE SAME TO ANOTHER NATION!
Nate828 Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:55 am
It seems like you are implying that the 8 Isrealies killed are worth more than the 1000 Gazans killed.
February 1st, 2009 at 1:07 am
Good afternoon my friends,
Even though I had compiled a reply and it would not show, I will attempt to compile it again. It is a Moral obligation for a Muslim or any Christian or Jew to defend his religion from a certain perpective which are contrary to the divine codes and conducts –
Please allow me to break down what a Wahabi is :
Wahhabism or Wahabism is a conservative form of Sunni Islam attributed to Muhammad ibn Abd-al-Wahhab, an 18th century scholar from what is today known as Saudi Arabia, who advocated a return to the practices of the first three generations of Islamic history.
Wahhabism is the dominant form of Islam in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan,Jordan,Egypt and Indonesia.[1]. It is often referred to as a “sect” or “branch” of Islam, though both its supporters and its opponents reject such designations. It has developed considerable influence in the Muslim world through the funding of mosques, schools and other means.
They claim to rely on the Quran and the Hadith. He preached against a “perceived moral decline and political weakness” in the Arabian Peninsula and condemned idolatry, the popular cult of saints, and shrine and tomb visitation. They have inherited this religion only through the last hundred years and is has been radicalised and openly condeming the shia sect of Islam. They are horrible,hypocrytical,vicious and not considered muslims who speak of killing others and cutting peoples heads off. This is your enemy. This form of the religion was funded and promoted by the Saudies. Do you know what Osama bin Laden was ?? Yes a wahabist. . Though as you know the media is foremost in focusing on these people and sending out the signals of hate and influencing the minds of the world’s view of Islam as a majority.
All the sources of proof and information can be found on this link. It will be positive for you to view this as it would allow you to rift the negative side of Islam-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi ———
February 1st, 2009 at 1:07 am
I do understand how you feel about Islam especially when you read recorces and information from wahabists such as Bukhari, who is a well know deviant. He is of one who talks about what he does not know. For example the genetleman believes that God has five fingers ? If you were to take any of his sources or any sunni/wahabist then I can fully and utterly understand why your view is this way.
Wahabists are those who hate the Prophets family ( divine leaders/ succesors/saints ) Just like Jesus had his desciples and his trustees. They conjure their own hadith without taking and learning the example of the prophets life and family. Thus generation after generation they follow like sheep misguided information and as a result cultivate hate and lies into the minds of there of their students. Please click on this link to find out more of their absurd views and how they even believe the prophet got naked in public ????
http://www.gateofknowledge.com/docs/siaesitta.htm
I do not wish to make this too long, I only wish to expose these people for they do not represent Islam but upsettingly are the ones always on the media. Shia islam is the real religion and path of the pious and love.
I shall leave with a verse of the Quran in regards to this topic –
–Have you not considered how Allah sets forth a parable of a good word being like a good tree, whose root is firm and branches are in heaven, Yielding its fruits in every season by the permission of its Lord ?And Allah sets forth parables for men that they may be mindful. And the parable of an evil word is as an evil tree pulled up from the earth’s surface; it has no stability —
February 1st, 2009 at 3:20 am
Are you saying all Sunnis are Wahabists?
Before the invasion into Iraq, women were allowed to work in professional positions and could go out in public with no burqa or hijab.
Would you not agree, that since the government of Iraq is now Shia dominated, Iran is a major controling influence over Iraq? All the major heads leading all the major influencial parties of Iraq are Shia. They do have a handful of minor diffferences but in the end, whatever Iran’s Supreme Leader says, Iraq will do. As you know,thts the way the Shia branch is structured.
Look at the trade & commerce deals that have been signed between Iraq & Iran. They had to get a finall approval from Iran’s Supreme Leader.
Yes, the Shia form of “Islam” tries to follow a bloodline to keep the leadership in the family, so to speak. Isn’t that a bit like a monarchy and claiming that by bloodline, one is superior to others?
February 1st, 2009 at 3:28 am
…and speaking of yer ” Shia [I]slam is the real religion and path of the pious and love.”, whats yer take on all the women in Iraq that have been murdered and found in back alleys, dumpsters or found lying at the steps of their homes..by Shia goon squads because these girls & women were daring enough to be in public without a head covering?
Whats yer take on Shia crossing over into Iraq by the bus loads to sieze homes and properties because Sunnis & Christians had to flee the US invasion and the disaster that followed?
If ya need the links I’ll be happy to provide ‘em.
Sam Reply:
February 1st, 2009 at 9:21 am
Hello Von,
Shia means “follower” of the paths of the prophet and his family.
I have seeked and checked out your article, indeed these squads are in the wrong and contrary to the divine codes and conducts of Islam in general. They have strayed along a wrong path so then why do you assume they are muslims in Gods eyes or in mine or yours ?
What I have been implying is one cannot call himself a christian a jew or a muslim until he has followed the path correctly. Would you call George bush a good christian ?
von Reply:
February 1st, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Sam,
I replied to you 2 times. One reply of mine was here for a short time and has been deleted by this Alex Jone website, My second reply I wrote, was “awaiting moderation”. As I now just returned to this website, I see my first reply has been deleted and the second never did post.
There seems to bea pattern of this website, as they relate to my comments, that if I touch on a certain subject, the comments are removed or never allowed. My comments to you were not hostile nor curses. Ihave gone to churshes in my life and I have gone to Muslim masjeds….all to try to gain an understanding of this World we live on and all that surrounds us.
Here is a link to my blogspot. http://ithaca-is.blogspot.com/
Later today, I will re-write my 2 responses to you in a post on my blogspot. We should have more liberty to discuss there. Shukran.
Resistance force Reply:
February 1st, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Hi von,
You are right, not all sunni are wahabist. I also know that many sunni are opposed to their governments stance in international affairs. It just makes one a little fustrated that this little minority of wahabists are being used by the media to promote hate within the religion. It is the wahabists teachings which have no credit or accurate references are influencing the opinions of others, and putting a blanket of ignorance on the pious.
February 1st, 2009 at 3:54 am
Here’s one link for ya Sam. As you know, Najaf is a holy place inside Iraq that the Shia of both Iran & Iraq hold sacred.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl.....erbeaumont
February 1st, 2009 at 4:20 am
james batson,
you forget that Sderot belongs to Palestine and is illegally occupied by israel so you have no right to cry about Palestinians firing rockets to land that belongs to them as they have all the right to drive out those israeli squatters off their land. furthermore during the ceasefire Israel did not lift its economic blockade of the 1.5 million inhabitants of Gaza, a form of collective punishment forbidden by international law. the offensive unleashed in Gaza was illegal, immoral and unnecessary. If all israel wanted was to stop rocket attacks from Gaza, all it had to do was to observe the ceasefire brokered by Egypt in June 2008 or better yet to leave the occupied lands as their occupation is in violation of so many UN resolutions.
frankly speaking, your pro israeli comments are so tiresome and boring and stupid because they are nothing less than propaganda and nonsense.
February 1st, 2009 at 8:36 am
One thing is sure for sure.
These psychotic zionists love to epoxy Jews to the murder israeli enterprise.
Look around, Jews all over the world are appalled by this American cat’s paw.
Find some new material, you dengerous nut jobs.
February 1st, 2009 at 11:40 am
Could not agree more with Edmund23. Everyone is so quick to exploit the truth movement to express their hatred of the jews. The story headline says a the UN is making the accusations against those evil, horrible jews, as if the UN is good, and is not trying to murder 3 billion people, as admitted in their own public documents.
February 1st, 2009 at 11:48 am
HELLO?
Round two coming up!
Read the news about escalating in Gaza and I got the distinguishing feeling that we are heading to period two in this game.
Ghetto my ass, it will be leveled this time.
So, what’s happening in the political talk?
Israel is saying: Iran won’t have any nuclear capabilities this year. It will be prevented to all cost.
Think about it. That’s it folks. (“Thank you and goodbye.”)
Israel could well be isolated this year and become a ghetto itself.
…and what’s next after that?
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:52 am
Isreal is an over aggresive nation that took land that was not theirs. Frankly I don’t like many of the Arab’s policy but damnit it’s their land, not the European Jews. The actually Aramiac Hebrew Jew race has practically died out. Modern “Jews” are not really Semitic. They are European. The closest people to ancient semites are the Arabs. It should be the Arabs that dictate the peace settlements, not the Isrealies. They are on stolen land. I am not an anti Jew. I do not hate the people but I am damned frustrated by their leaders and those that follow them. The holy land should be called Palestine as it was for many years. When the Great Salhudin took control of the Holy Land he let the Jews and Christains worship in peace, provided they pay a tax… a hell of a lot better than murdering each other. We need to give the arabs a chance. And the people of Isreal need to wake up and realize their government doesn’t give a shit about them or any of their neighbours.
Like I said before:
JUST BECAUSE YOUR PEOPLE WERE ETHNICALLY CLEANSED DOES NOT MEAN YOU CAN DO THE SAME TO ANOTHER NATION!
Peter - The Nordic Guy Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 9:57 am
It really hurts to hear the truth or truths.
But how do we solve this mess?
I have absolutely no idea…
Some big event may change our perspective though.
Like something out there? Like G-d on visit?
Eh, ok…?
lackster Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Historically speaking, when two countries go to war, the one who is victorious usually keeps the land they conquer. So why, after Israel stomped the shit out of EVERY Arab nation that has sought to destroy her, should they appease anyone by pulling out. Again, history shows when this was done, the Arabs try and try again. I appreiciate the Arab’s desire to own something that does not belong to them, but you would think after 67 years of getting thier ass kicked, they would get the freakin idea.
Nate828 Reply:
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:33 am
The land was thiers and any attacks made are in essence justified. Its a bloody shame that both sides do not have the intelligence or compasion to actually stick to an agreement. And leaders that wanted peace in Isreal and the Arab world are shouted dowh, ridiculed, or in the case of some killed outright by extremists. I do admire the spirit of those Palestinians. It takes alot of courage to fight against a far better trained and equiped enemey. The Zionists should have stayed in Europe with other Europeans. If they didn’t invade Palestine we would have far less problems in the Middle East. Take it this way lackster: How would you react to an invasion of your nation? How would you react to a nation that blames it’s heavy handed and overeactive strikes on you, and your impovrished countrymen?
It seems you lack a bit of compasion sir, how sad.
And Isreal does not neccesarily have to pull out completely. They should pull back to pre 1967 borders and actually make an effort to keep a ceasefire and the same goes for the Arabs. Sometimes I think if they can’t actually learn to live together that they all should be kicked out.. However that is not very realistic.
lackster Reply:
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Nate828
good points!
I will always view the circumstances on the ground as a necessary evil.
these conflicts have been foretold, they are unfolding just as predicted.
it IS sad, it will undoubtedly get even bloodier, until there is no doubt in any human beings mind, who the Lamb of GOD is, who gives us salvation! i hate to seem “pretentious” arogant, better than any one. I AM NOT.
once you read of GODS plan in the Bible, and figure out the order of events that must happen, it certainly gives one confidence that can not be found ANYWHERE else.
Peace to ALL!
yabble dabble Reply:
February 4th, 2009 at 11:59 am
“…The lamb of God who gives us salvationnnah!
Hoorah for salvation brother!
Can I get an AMEN!
February 2nd, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Yeah because there using the same exact tactics.Most people dont know that.A majority of all military training is based of nazi tactics.lol Eveything is interweaved just like nasa.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Damn Lackster. you just got your ass handed to you!
great post
lackster Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:13 pm
don’t see it!?
ain’t skeered!
February 2nd, 2009 at 5:05 pm
well…..
where, who handed what to who?
Nate828 Reply:
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:35 am
Regardless the whole conflict is bloody sad… So many deaths that did not have to happen.
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Why should the Arabs give up when hezbollah beat Israel in 2006 and pushed them out of their land of southern Lebanon in 33 days against a superior Israeli defence force ?
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Why should the Arabs [ let's just call them Residents, people; this tainted language annoys me ] or the Christions or Toad worshipers “give up”? They live there and have for untold years [ israel has less of a history than the Residents of Palestine ] and this colonial enterprise is murderous, deceptive, amoral and dangerous.
We should embargo israel and shut their pompus ass down,
February 4th, 2009 at 4:50 am
To Lackster:
1) Seriously, what challenge/question have you posed to me? I looked back through the posts and can’t find it. If you could reiterate it for me, that would be great. I will do my best to answer.
2) As I stated in a previous post, my “gibberish” remark about Jesus smoking grass etc was in response to what I view as shallow ideas. It was crude, and “you took a bite”.
3) The information that you present is for the most part based on rhetoric and what is commonly referred to as an inductive argument. That is; an argument based upon an unsound premise which is used to give the illusion of truth for the reason of supporting a stance or view.
For Example:
-”My friend in Wyoming has a black dog. All dogs in wyoming are black”. This is an invalid argument.
This next one is really sneaky:
-”Most Americans like fast food. Joe is an American. From this, we induce that Joe is fat”. This is known as an inductive fallacy.
Some of the points you make really have no point at all:
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LACKSTER SAID: “to begin with, in an effort to better understand the differences between the “religons” and “beliefs”, i ask anyone to show what positive “outward” contributions have come from the “Palestinians”.
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Whether or not the Palestinians have made any outward contributions has nothing, zero, zilch to do with understanding the differences between religions and beliefs. This is what is known as a presumed association. In essence, it is an adolescent form of basic rhetoric and propaganda. Your blatant use of this technique is used as a preface to express your disdain of the Palestinian “arab rats”. There is no consideration given to the fact there are and historically have been Muslim, Christian and Sephardic Jews making up the population of Palestinian people. By the way, just what kind of outward contribution should the Palestinian people make before you deem them worthy of belonging to the human race?
Then there’s this one:
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LACKSTER SAID: “dabble” you are right, i could be friends with a muslim, until the point were we have to stop the conversation, face mecca and pray to aallllahlahlahlah 5 times a day.
it would be at that point that according to the koran we would no longer be equals, i would have two choices to die or even worse…convert.”
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As I stated earlier, this is nothing but stereotyping. By definition, this is a very basic inductive fallacy. To this, I used your form of argument when I called you a child molester so that you might see just how utterly ridiculous your reasoning is. It obviously went right over your head. I notice that you have repeatedly thrown the child molester (and now gay) labels at me with derogatory intent since that post. If I had known that you were going to have such a hang-up over it, I would have used a different example. I sincerely apologize “My Dearest Friend”.
Let’s not forget:
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LACKSTER SAID: “well i refer to not only Israel, but to 9/11, 7/7, Mumbai, Kobalt Towers, USS Cole,
Nairobi, Kenya on and on”
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VERDICT: Infantile Rhetoric
Here is where your stereotyping has become an art form. You assume that because the perpetrators are Muslim, that these incidents are a declared holy war shared by all Muslims (If this is not what you assume, then what is your point with this statement? ). Do you want us believe that the actions of the few are indicative of the intentions of the majority? Do the actions of Timothy McVeigh indicate that Americans are radical militants? Does a pedophile in the church make all Christians child molesters? Does Ted Bundy make all lawyers evil fiends? (Well, maybe on that last one.) There are literally thousands of murders yearly in the US. We dwarf the rest of the civilized world combined on that statistic. I think I can reasonably assert that very few of them are committed by muslims.
This next one is a personal favorite of mine:
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LACKSTER SAID: “I have, through my years of seeking the truth, amassed a collection of resources from which i have read, listened to or watched. I also watch Link Tv’s Mosaic news, produced by Arab’s for Arab’s. I endure this propaganda, in an honest effort to be informed, fair and balanced. It is these resources, that are released directly from “the horses mouth”, that not only enforce my beliefs, but set my heart on fire for them!”
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…To which I cut and pasted into the following as a testament to the audacity of your post:
” I have, through my years of seeking the truth, amassed a collection of resources from which i have read, listened to or watched such as Jim Jones and Jim & Tammy Baker. I also watch Jimmy Swaggart, The 700 Club and Pat Robertson to name a few, produced by Christians for Christians. I endure this propaganda, in an honest effort to be informed, fair and balanced. It is these resources, that are released directly from “the horses mouth”, that not only enforce my beliefs, but set my heart on fire for them! ”
…To which your very best reply was:
LACKSTER SAID: “nice try dork…”
Once again it went right over your head.
…and this brings us to…
4) HYPOCRISY- The vile hallmark that is the manifestation of insecurity, ignorance and injustice.
Shall we begin:
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LACKSTER SAID: “what i see are a bunch of ignorant, arab rats, mounting an all out assault on the good people of this world WHO BELIEVE IN THE FREEDOM OF CHOICE TO WORSHIP WHO THEY CHOOSE, and a society were they are free to speak.” (Caps added by “dabble”)
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Bravo! Beautifully done “My Amusing Little Friend”. It’s all there. Do I even have to point out just how asinine that comment is. This so classic. In context of all your ranting and raving over muslims, you are the mirror image of your chosen nemesis. I could swap out the words “arab rats” for lackster and the sentence would retain its continuity. It appears that you also, do not support religious freedom of choice. Is this one going over your head too?
…and how about:
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LACKSTER SAID: ” you obviously have no answer for. then change the subject.”
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This was after my response to YOUR “SUBJECT CHANGING” POST where out of nowhere you state:
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LACKSTER SAID: “i would bet my south african kruggerand you voted for obama did’nt you “dabble”
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Wow!!! From how far up your ass did you pull that one? Can you say H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y? At this point I would once again like to thank you, also on behalf of my coworkers who are also getting a great laugh from witnessing the depth of your articulation.
…and finally:
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LACKSTER SAID: “You just sound desperate at this point “Dabble”.
after conversing with you, I am going to RUN to the nearest store get some ammunition, some pigs blood, put the two together, and wait for you and your muslim friends!!!”
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WTF??? All I can do is shake my head at this. I point out the fallacy of your argument based on my “direct experience”, and this is the best you can come up with. Hint: You-are-trying-way-too-hard. In the same paragraph that you write this nonsensical response, you accuse me of being desperate. Yeah, you speak the truth alright, but it isn’t the one you think your talking about. You are inadvertently displaying for all to see what an ignoramus you are. I don’t mean that as an insult either. It’s just the truth.
5) I am a traitor? You really reached for that one! What do you base this on. What is the definition of a traitor? Is it because I said I didn’t vote? That’s funny, I thought voting was optional in this country. I thought it was a freedom that I could choose whether or not to participate in. Is it mandatory where you come from? For your information, I didn’t vote in the previous three elections either.
Here’s an anecdote for you:
I was once having a discussion with a friend who handed me that old tired rhetoric of, “If you don’t vote, you have no right to complain.” My response to him was, “If you vote for Bush and he wins, I don’t want to hear any complaints from you for the next 4 years.”
Is this too far over your head, or should I dumb it down for you? You see, I feel that I really have no obligation to choose between Tweedle-dee and Tweedle-dum. As a free American, I can exercise my right not to choose. While others are buying into the “political superbowl”, I choose to focus my support towards my family, friends, neighbors and community. Is that too “Utopian” for you?
You ask me what I believe? I believe that people all over the world are fundamentally the same. For every good Christian, I can show you a good Muslim. For every asshole American, I can show you an asshole Arab. I believe in compassion for your fellow human beings before religion, race and nationality. Is that too UTOPIAN? Am I supposed feel bad about that? Since when did caring for others become something that people are supposed to feel guilty about? If you could wipe out the arabs and any other group that doesn’t meet your approval, would you be happy then? Who would you point your hatred to then?
6) It’s “Khobar” Towers, not “Kobalt”. I was there with the US Army participating in joint exercises with the USAF when that happened you fucking douche bag. It was Saudi nationals who perpetrated it, and it was the Saudi people who showed great support and compassion for us in the immediate aftermath. But you didn’t see that last part on the news did you? You also didn’t see all the Saudi civilians that lived adjacent to the compound who were also injured. They were just as enraged as we were.
We spent a lot of time out in the local economy of Dhahran. We were treated with great respect and hospitality. If we were in a store and prayer time came, we would be left alone to peruse the wares until it was over. On more than one occasion the proprietor would share tea with us. We even had an hour long discussion about Jim Morrison and The Doors with a music store proprietor. Of course, you’ll choose not believe any of this because it doesn’t fit in with the current paradigm of your over-inflated ego.
Frankly, I really don’t give a shit what you believe. I know what I have experienced and what you HAVE NOT. Your posts make it abundantly clear that you are uneducated, inexperienced with the world and do nothing but talk out of your ass. Your entertainment value has ran its course for me. I’m finished here.
…Out.
lackster Reply:
February 5th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Hey “Dabble”, it appears I got to you too! I will consider you a fan!
It’s to bad we can not all be perfect like you.
yabble dabble Reply:
February 5th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Wow, excellent rebuttal!
February 4th, 2009 at 10:59 am
you guys need to call a ceasefire.
lackster, dabble is playing you hard and putting you away wet. youshould frame your arguments better. you cant just rattle off the names of event like 9/11, 7/7, uss cole and others without any information or reference to your point and then call it a history lesson. you discredit your point by doing that and also help him to make his. if i tried to tell you the holocost was fake, you would ask for proof. if i just posted “WWII” without any other info, you would not take anything i say seriously.( that was just example. I don’t really believe it was fake)
dabble, you really should read the bible. it doesnt matter whether you believe in it or not. point is there are billions of people who follow it. it wont hurt for you to be informed on their position. knowng about something doesnt mean you have to believe it. but you never know. you might find after you read, you start to believe. or maybe not. but it is still good knowlege to learn about.
peace.
Resistance force Reply:
February 4th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Looks to me Like Dabble is winning the argument morally and factually.
lackster Reply:
February 5th, 2009 at 11:52 am
and according to “Dabble” “I want salvation so bad I can taste it”
it appears dabble wants friends and acceptance so bad he should go taste them!
yabble dabble Reply:
February 5th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Aaawww, does somebody need a hug?
yabble dabble Reply:
February 5th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Are insults all that you have left? The last vestige of the intellectually challenged…
lackster Reply:
February 5th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
10-4!
“Dabble” missed my point EARLY on, instead of debating the current world events and how they relate to Prophecy, which he is clueless too, he is more interested in correcting my moral compass, twisting my words and making prepared statements to back his argument “Be good to people, treat people nice, blah, blah, blah”.
He may be interested in what this world has to offer, I am not, I have seen.
February 4th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Wow
The people of Gaza die from an unchecked flow of truly vicious weapons and are being denied food, water, medical supplies [ medical facilites and personel are particularly targeted ] and power.
And the bastards are still blasting away.
Mour for the tortured lands of Palestine and the blood in it’s soil.
‘Self Determination’ over the mass graves of the former inhabitants.
February 4th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
” I have, through my years of seeking the truth, amassed a collection of resources from which i have read, listened to or watched such as Jim Jones and Jim & Tammy Baker. I also watch Jimmy Swaggart, The 700 Club and Pat Robertson to name a few, produced by Christians for Christians. I endure this propaganda, in an honest effort to be informed, fair and balanced. It is these resources, that are released directly from “the horses mouth”, that not only enforce my beliefs, but set my heart on fire for them! ”
LMAO : )
Here’s an anecdote for you:
I was once having a discussion with a friend who handed me that old tired rhetoric of, “If you don’t vote, you have no right to complain.” My response to him was, “If you vote for Bush and he wins, I don’t want to hear any complaints from you for the next 4 years.”
beautiful-im going to use that. thanks
lackster Reply:
February 5th, 2009 at 11:55 am
people will be begging for Bush before long
February 4th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
“Boycott all jewish products and the bar code on their products starts with #729″
Well, the only thing they produce is Hollywood propaganda and smut. So, nothing useful. Simply stop watching the boob tube & movies, people!
February 4th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Hey Anti A very good point! Seriously.
February 5th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
“Dabble”
TODAY’S HEADLINES: HERE IN DABBLE AND FRIENDS WORLD, EVERYONE LOVES EACH OTHER……FOOL!
Iraqi woman had 80 women raped
then recruited as suicide bombers
11 ex-Gitmo prisoners flee
Saudi ‘jihad rehab’ center
Iran says U.S. must
accept nuke program
Obama thinks he can win ‘moderate’
Muslims if he chooses words carefully
Pregnant American killed
on Puerto Rico vacation
U.S. Jewish institutions targeted on Muslim website
Netanyahu secretly warns Hamas: We’ll wipe you out
PA secretly urges Israel to ‘finish off’ Hamas
Mubarak: Hamas to blame for spilled Arab blood
Hamas seizes food aid, blankets ‘by force’
Behead a Christian, raise your rank
Islam’s Shariah cited in 7 of 10 worst nations worldwide
–WND
yabble dabble Reply:
February 5th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Lackster,
You have finally made an excellent post! I just can’t come back with a rebuttal for this one. This is a well thought out delivery of current events that objectively define the world.
I tried to find some headlines that depict crime, hatred and violence that are not Arab related, and I just couldn’t seem to find any. I searched far and wide in the US national news for murders, cop shootings, rapes, murder suicides, missing children, burglaries, robberies, etc. All to no avail. Hmmm, go figure… I bow down before you.
On another note:
I honestly don’t have a problem with you or your knowledge pertaining to end time prophesies and how they relate to current events. I find it all rather interesting and would be open to hear what you had to say if you hadn’t started slinging hatred along with it. You are not the only person out there talking about these things. I’ve been reading posts by other people talking about biblical prophesies with quite an open mind. The racist remarks that you make do nothing but harm to your credibility.
If you want people to take you seriously, I would suggest that you leave out comments like “arab rats”. If you don’t, you are going to turn away the people that might just be teetering on the fence. Once that happens, you’ll just be preaching to the choir. Then what good is your message if you do that?
February 6th, 2009 at 9:28 am
MY RESPONSE TO “DABBLES” DIATRIBE, and the HYPOCRISY WITHIN…………
to Dabble
…..After reading of your experience in the KOHBAR towers (maybe it is “cut and paste too?) Why do you suppose those same native (moderate) residence, whom you claimed displayed shock and horror at that attack (& others), have not, after 30 years, been able to overcome the irritating problem of “muslim extreme-ism”? Aren’t the peace loving muslims in control of their own destiny, ALL OVER THE MIDDLE EAST?? But here we are 30-40 years later…AND LOOK at it now!??? THIS IS THE DEBATE, I CAME HERE FOR. I served in the armed forces right along side (muslim) soldiers, I count them among friends, their effort against the more extreme viewpoint, was obvious! IF? You served in the air force….uh, exactly who did you imagine your strategic enemy was, whilst you were “serving”? I know I’m fucking stupid and all…
But, I’m going to guess maybe….just maybe.. someone IN THE MIDDLE EAST? Why the fuck, if you are such a noble man, would you swear to tweedle dee or tweedle dumb to go kill your friends, by joining “air force??? I am glad we are not friends, !!!
As for “my religious beliefs & the gospel according too”…
We can not have this discussion until you read the Gospel!!
It’s been fun!!!!!
And to hell with tweedle-dee and tweedle-dumb, too! And the crooks who prop them up!!
Lackster-out!!!
February 7th, 2009 at 12:44 am
Caution!! You must see this video!!! Bush makes a satanic ritual!! (this is not a joke)
The video is in English, and, it is worth it!! George W. Bush makes a satanic ritual with children, troublesome!!
And this, during the attacks of the world Trade Center on September 11, 2001!
http://911truth-sherbrooke.org.....ot-a-joke/
February 7th, 2009 at 12:50 am
CHECK THIS OUT!!
Obama’s occult nomination ceremony !!
Before an immense croud gathered in the pyramid formed in the streets of Washinton D.C., a gigantic ritual ceremony took place…
http://911truth-sherbrooke.org.....-ceremony/
February 9th, 2009 at 11:20 am
“Reputation gained through intimidation. Pacifisim no longer tradition. Chutzpah driven. We battle then we feast. We celebrate. We spereate our milk plate from our meat. We’re the ‘Brews, sporting anti-swastika tatoos, the Fairfax ghetto boy skinhead hebrews!!”-NOFX
fuck all you nazi cock swallowers……….
February 9th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
How many children must die before Israel is accountable for war crimes.
I made this video on the attrocities in Gaza:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1XWqfCONQA