KTNV
March 7, 2009
Federal agents raid Las Vegas locations
Federal agents swarmed into a local business and home early Thursday morning.
Several men are facing charges ranging from owning machine guns to evading taxes.
One of the raids forced a school into lockdown.
One of the suspects appeared in court shortly after his arrest, and that’s when things got even more interesting.
Armored personnel carriers, federal agents wearing tactical gear, blanketing a Northwest Las Vegas neighborhood early Thursday morning.
It’s little wonder J Suson tried rubbng the sleep from his eyes a second time.
“I thought I was dreaming,” he says.
But J wasn’t, so he grabbed his camera, and an earful.
“Basically, [they were saying] we’ve got a search warrant, we need you to come out, a whole bunch of undercover FBI people everywhere,” he says.
Agents arrested four people, Jan Allen Lindsey, a possible former special investigator for the same bureau, but openly outspoken against the government’s collection of taxes.
“In the internal revenue code 26, there’s nothing specific in there,” he said in a documentary about taxes.
The IRS begs to differ.
Action news has obtained the indictment against Lindsey.
It alleges that from 1999 through 2006, he either didn’t pay his income tax, or filed false forms.
The indictment also alleges Lindsey essentially tried to dupe the government by placing assets in third party names.
Agents raided a business as well.
All of their weaponry and armor was because at least one of the other suspects faces a federal firearms charge.
Agents also confiscated ammunition and reloading equipment from the home. The other two suspects face money laundering charges.
Lindsey was set to be arraigned Thursday, but would not allow a public defender to represent him.
He also said he refused to observe the judge’s authority.
The arraignment had to be continued.
According to other documents obtained by Action News, Lindsey tried to sue the government in 2002 for seizing his property because he didn’t pay taxes.
A judge threw it out, and ordered him to pay more than $1200 for a quote- “frivilous complaint.”
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More details revealed about those arrested in FBI raids Thursday
Some of the four men arrested during a series of raids Thursday by federal agents appeared in court Friday.
The FBI raided a Las Vegas business Thursday because after hours it was the meeting place of the People’s Sovereign Court, a libertarian social organization with what some might call extreme anti-government views.
Its leader is Sam Davis whose name is on one of the Grand Jury indictments.
He’s accused of laundering more than $500,000 that undercover agents said had been stolen from Wachovia.
Jan Lindsey is a former FBI agent himself who is featured in a documentary titled, “Freedom to Fascism”.
It chronicles the legal battles of people who refused to pay their taxes.
Lindsey was in court Thursday, refusing to acknowledge the judge’s jurisdiction.
“I want to make sure that you understand what the government says you did wrong. Whether your agree with it or not is for future litigation. You understand that sir,” asked the judge.
“What the government says I did wrong,” asked Lindsey.
“Yes, sir,” replied the judge.
Two other men were arrested in the FBI raids.
Shawn Rice, accused in the indictment of laundering money also, by claiming to be a Rabbi, and taking the deposits as charitable contributions.
Harold Call was arrested on five counts of possessing machine guns and converting single-fire weapons illegally to automatic weapons.
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March 7th, 2009 at 8:33 am
My cousin Aaron Russo specifically said dont stop paying taxes…. If he wanted to prove a point by not paying taxes he needed to get a better plan. I hear there are no expedition laws in Montecarlo… why doesnt he go there?? hahah
red_devil_mouse Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 8:40 am
jah jah, I think you mean “extradition” not “expedition”. An expedition is a like safari or a outdoor mission. That was so retarded. I wonder about the people who frequent this website, are they illiterate???
elephantmannn Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 9:41 am
ahh red devil mouse, i have heard of you. you surf the web weeks on end… looking for grammer mistakes or a small error of word. thank you yet again for correcting one more person… good luck on your 2000 more posts for the day and good luck on find somthing to get mad about on the world wide web
singleadad1234 Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 10:37 am
well if we are ILLLLLITERATTEEEE its becaazue of the sstupid schoolsss that runn
the childsresnss lives
Scott Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 10:41 am
red_devil_mouse: These are the kind of posts that we do not need. Why would you talk about somebody’s spelling? This site is meant for individuals who want to discuss the rape of the American People by the Governments of the world, and the elite who are running them! Get over it and I beg you to quit the childish games.
workreno Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Red Mouse Devil
are you the spelling checker that was always willing to point out errors over at Communist Dreams site .I used to post on that site ,but it was full of snivilling sic little bastards like yourself. They finally changed the format so that only proper (”leftist”) views could be posted.
f8te Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Yeah, pointing out obvious spelling errors that make you look like a f---in moron makes you a communist. Thats rich.
f8te Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Its not just the people on this site, its people in general. What you think, yer gonna get any better on a f---in nascar website or something? Grow up.
EVOVAL Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too. Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55% fo the plepoe can. Pweor of the hmuan mnid.
John D. Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Bilrlaint!!
GaryfromDenver Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
To: Red_Devil_Mouse
Sentences and names begin with a capital letter.
You really should have used a comma after “extradition,” and please don’t forget to put it inside the quotation mark.
Your last sentence clearly should have been broken into two.
As an example: I really wonder about people like you. Are you just mean, stupid or both?
IBSammyG Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
pssst, missed a comma after “stupid”
Donald Rumsfeld Reply:
March 8th, 2009 at 1:24 am
Red Devil Mouse my pretty, you are my best man.
March 7th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Yes, be very wary that this isn’t the beginning of the end. Sounds to me like selective grabs from the government’s “list”. These people will be railroaded straight to prison once they hit “court” and later pointed to as “homegrown terrorists”.
March 7th, 2009 at 8:40 am
I’ve already said “Yes, be very wary that this isn’t the beginning of the end. Sounds to me like selective grabs from the government’s “list”. These people will be railroaded straight to prison once they hit “court” and later pointed to as “homegrown terrorists”. ” but it doesn’t appear. Hmmm….
March 7th, 2009 at 8:40 am
Gotcha!
March 7th, 2009 at 8:43 am
Feed the Beast. Well it wont be too long that people will stop all together. Once they all start starving from the Depression. Yes you liberals wont have guns to fight back and get what was rightfully yours back. Hope you enjoy enslavement.
Henry Kiss Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Fight back? Against what? You wait and see. This isn’t a depression so much as it is the Great
Coming Undone. Science is dead. Pragmatism is dead. Cooperative
anything is dead. No one trusts anyone any more, because honestly,
nothing works any more. The whole world has turned out to be full of
s---.
It is difficult for me to write it, so I know how hard it is for a
reader to fathom it, but, this country is going to turn into a war
zone. We’ll be fighting each other for that last morsel of food and
that last quart of gasoline.
Oh s--- Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Both very good posts, the two above mine
Delilah Reply:
March 8th, 2009 at 12:23 am
I really like to see both of these ideals posted side by side. It definetly plays on my emotions a
bit. So lets look at the facts. Yes, there may be fighting because most people are inherently
ignorant, angry and act upon their most primal feelings. But humans are social creatures…so
campfire thing is likely too.
The wrench in this logic really appears when you consider the way people behave when
their entire existence is based in fear, which will be the driving force in most lives after
everything falls apart(which it will)…fear turns people into ugly little critters….which
emotion shall prevail, love or fear? Isn’t that we are all talking about here
anyway? Ahhh what a pickle.
Ace's & Eight's Reply:
March 9th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
How Right You Are Brother !
March 7th, 2009 at 8:54 am
“The FBI raided a Las Vegas business Thursday because after hours it was the meeting place of the People’s Sovereign Court, a libertarian social organization with what some might call extreme anti-government views.”
This is probably the only accurate statement in the article. You know these are trumped-up charges. It is not illegal to own ammunition and reloading equipment, yet they confiscate it?
“All of their weaponry and armor was because at least one of the other suspects faces a federal firearms charge.”
No conviction, just an accusation. Clearly it is not violent otherwise he wouldn’t be walking around. Maybe he was late paying a transfer tax.
We need to keep an eye on these cases. This is the beginning of the police state trumping up charges to quell dissent. We can’t forget about these guys. The media has already started smearing them. We cannot forget about these guys!
Mr.T Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Next on their sweep list: Rahm Emanuel and Timothy Geithner!! LOL!!!
I bet these 2 clowns back taxes were more than 10 times the amount that these other 4 men owed.
March 7th, 2009 at 9:03 am
I disagree with the reality of the Income tax. The way it is collected and wasted, and is essentially the most terrifying financial matter in the US. Because of their business practices, the IRS could be considered a major terrorist organization for what they put the American people through.
I don’t disagree with the basic principal of the income tax. The basic principal is that everyone who works pays an equal percentage of their pay check each week into a pot. That large pot is tax revenue. It should then be voted on, by the people, exactly how every dime of it is used to directly benefit THE PEOPLE.
Its incredibly simple, and brilliant. Unfortunately for the real world United States, it doesn’t work this way ^ AT ALL. Not even close.
In the real world income tax is nothing more than an official garnishment for your indentured servitude to foreign bankers. Yaaaay.
LTC Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Income tax or any forced tax for that matter is simply armed robbery. Free men are free because they have a choice. Taking money from people by force is armed robbery, plain and simple. To have no say makes you a slave.
The people never had the opportunity to contribute to the creation of the Constitution, only the elites were allowed to discuss and draft it. It is a common mistake to think a nation needs income taxes or taxes in general to survive. Trade is the way Nations make money to support the government, not by railroading the people and stealing their money at gunpoint.
Henry Kiss Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 11:45 am
No it is called extortion, not armed robbery.
Aeronautical Engineer Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Trade?
Do you know what our major export is in the US???
PLASTIC
Yes, trade was very important during the mid to late 1700’s- tobacco etc, thats why the royal crown started putting taxes on everything.
March 7th, 2009 at 9:13 am
I suspect these cases to increase in the coming months. Government saying “If you don’t pay your taxes, and own guns you are a domestic terrorist!”
Where were the FBI and IRS raids against Obama’s Treasury Secretary Geitner?
This is just a huge psyop against the American people to whip them in line.
You just can’t make this crap up anymore.
REB Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
One of these days theyll pull this crap with the wrong people and well be reading about how they got blown to hell,cant wait!
March 7th, 2009 at 9:16 am
I’m sure the MSM will be showing clips of the arrest, they will over-hype the weapons they had, they will over-hype the reloading gear, and they will definitely over-hype the “Freedom to Facism” connection. The MSM’s basic story line will be, “These people did not pay taxes, and were “extreme-right wing hate” group. It is really going to be sad for the next few months while all this unfolds on the airwaves.
March 7th, 2009 at 9:21 am
What about those assholes in congress who don’t pay theirs?
March 7th, 2009 at 9:22 am
The government is Anti-American.
Bean Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 10:39 am
LOL! Too true – tyrannical swine is Anti-American!
Taxation without representation is the definition of tyranny!; Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.; Man has a primary property right to his person and his labor.; Our properties within our own territories [should not] be taxed or regulated by any power on earth but our own.; Let us therefore animate and encourage each other, and show the whole world, that a free man contending for Liberty on his own ground is superior to any slavish mercenary on earth.
“Mankind may amuse themselves with theoretic systems of liberty, and trace its social and moral effects on sciences, virtue, industry and every improvement of which the human mind is capable; but we can only discern its true value by the practical and wretched effects of slavery; and thus dreadfully will they be realized, when the inhabitants of the Eastern States are dragging out a miserable existence, only on the gleanings of their fields; and the Southern, blessed with a softer and more fertile climate, are languishing in hopeless poverty; and when asked, what is become of the flower of their crop, and the rich produce of their farms-they may answer in the hapless stile of the Man of La Mancha,-” The steward of my Lord has seized and sent it to Madrid.” Or, in the more literal language of truth, The exigencies of government require that the collectors of the revenue should transmit it to the Federal City.”
Mercy Otis Warren
Torry Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 11:59 am
And what is all of this suppose to mean?
March 7th, 2009 at 9:33 am
The system we have now works well, it just needs more oversight.
ICE FARMER Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 9:55 am
WHAT SYSTEM?
articles Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Here is a link to an ap article on this: http://apnews.myway.com/articl.....1UJ80.html
willyc Reply:
March 8th, 2009 at 11:26 am
the same system that has killed thousands of its own citizens. the system that engineered 9/11 and has quelled aany decent on the issue. WE NEED CHECKS AND BALANCES THAT WE HAD A LONG TIME AGO. they worked pretty nicely. Also the people need more empowerment and thus the states, recognizing the prosperity that republics bring, it was the states taht together over came slavery not abraham lincoln. The pyramidal top to bottom system doesnt work, our foudning fathers knew that.
LTC Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Allen Ginsberg:
“They system only works if you have enough money.”
The system is a joke and run by criminals that belong to a society spawned in England called “The BAR” = British Accredited Regency. The judges belong to the Bar, the lawyers, politicians, etc.
Justice has never been blind and it never will be.
Title 26 explicitly says it is voluntary, no mandatory, to pay taxes. Also, the tax code defines all terms used within, like any legal document and the United States, as defined within the code specifically means Washington D.C., The Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, and I think the Samoan Islands.
Anyone living outside the United States as defined in Title 26 does not have to pay income taxes. There are many places within the tax code that prove beyond any reasonable doubt that income taxes are completely voluntary. All laws have a negative consequence, meaning a punishment if said law is broken. yet within the Title 26 you will find no punishment in relation to not paying income tax.
We’re living in a land ruled by Bankers and lawyers. They write the laws and statutes and run this criminal system. They create the wars and the depressions in this world. They decide who eats and who starves to death. Get rid of them and you get rid of 95% of the world’s suffering.
Aeronautical Engineer Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Ginsberg was a genius, read his poem “Hadda be playin on a jukebox”. Rage against the machine did a cover of it, it’s pretty intense.
Freeman Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
You are absolutely correct, and you left out Philadelphia. Nonetheless, I still served 3 years for income tax evasion in Lompoc. This was a long time ago,but it taught me a lesson. I have now lived many years without serving the credit god and pay cash for everything I own. Owning things is also an illusion. You own your toothbrush,you own your coffee maker. Your cars,homes,land,etc, you will never own. What happens when you don’t register your vehicle or insure it…don’t pay your property taxes on your land and home? Thats right,it will be taken by the government. LOL . Some people really believe they own their toys. My home is now in a remote location with clean air and water,off the grid,green house and solar panels. Property taxes are $212 for 10acres. You cannot fight the government,but you can replace it.
1 TRUTH Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
LOOK INTO KENT HOVIND!!!
The IRS gave him 10 years for supposed tax evasion. He was tax exempt… through his ministry. But they wanted to silence him cause he was exposing the NWO humanistic survival of those with power brainwashing system.
He told them he’d pay them anything they said that they were denied. Even though he didn’t break any laws. NOPE… 10 years for you.
SOME MURDERERS DON’T EVEN SERVE 10 YEARS!!!
Learn a few truths you were not taught in school or on nat geo:
http://www.fool4given.com/books/301proofs.pdf
http://www.eternal-productions.org/101science.html
http://www.discovery.org/artic.....Fakest.pdf
Nick Reply:
March 8th, 2009 at 3:28 am
Well said my man.
ew keane Reply:
March 8th, 2009 at 9:38 am
and its pronounced lom- poke, not lom-pock. we called it lom-puke. i used to live in santa maria. i would move back to that town if it hadnt sprauled, or had been located
anywhere but california.
Publius Reply:
March 8th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
well said LTC, bravo.
End the Fed Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 11:06 am
truth will piss you off, you piss me off with your baseless point that system that we have is fine! You are a douchebag
f8te Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Duh! Yer a f---in idiot bub!!
RightofthePeople Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 11:47 am
I’m not angry. Just Sad that the are so many who disbelieve what is in front of them. If you believe this income tax thing isn’t the biggest scam being strapped on the back of America you’re delusional. They are robbing us then buying votes by redistributing the booty. Of course the congress claims they’re all Robin Hood. That keeps them in office but of course that is not enough so they pass laws that superceed state gaming laws so their friends can set up these hedge fund scams to increase personnel wealth. Ahhh… whats the use!
canuck rage Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
i hate the system
danfromohio Reply:
March 8th, 2009 at 9:11 am
hate the system?Well prepare to fight back…I hope more americns wake up to see the fraud in this country and take back[with force] if necessary their country..
eagleman299 Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
Ya,if you do not see the writing on the wall then, step aside and let those who want to restore Liberty to America get with it!! Every since Ruby Ridge, their are a lot of people, like the Weavers. the Browns , who have been under seage , because the idiot Leaders of this country
do not understand one simple thing It called FREEDOM . They have lied to us every since this Country of America was founded, it was not the taxes that the People of the original 13
Colonies rebelled against , It was the Paper money they tried to force on us. It is the same
thing all over again. Paper money is CRIMINAL. QUIT USING IT,
GunSlinger Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
The system we have now is, and has been illegal!!!!
general Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
the \truth will piss you off. And it will get you arrested if you are a patriot. The system does work well for murdering scum traitors. You are right as much as you are an asshole.
general Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Where do they find the scum jury members who would convict someone for not paying taxes or having weapons when most of our national leaders don’t pay taxes? I bet the black masked, jack booted thugs had machine guns. Why did they steal their reloading stuff is that illegal now too?
Gary Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
“The system” is nothing more than an organized crime, carried out by legalized organized criminals. It has absolutely no legitimacy whatsoever. Overcome your brainwashing.
Outside Looking In Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Thanks for stating the obvious Gary!! The USA is under attack at so many levels it boggles the mind. The lies, the deceit the corruption is so deep and so wide the only outcome can be the destruction of a once great country.
Supine Comedy Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Yeah- it works real well.
Thats why Bernie Madoff is sitting in a 62 million dollar home with out his door kicked down in an FBI swat arrest. Or why he’ll walk free, while his friends Bob Rubin, Paulson and Greenspan retire with 700 million $$$ parachutes.
What the HELL are you talking about. For Gods sake- WAKE UP YOU MORON!
Tomorrow it could be you.
gumby Reply:
March 8th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
bigger goverment yet???excuse mefor laughing…get a clue!!!
Sillyfreedomlover Reply:
March 9th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Maybe the system can over watch it’s self…
March 7th, 2009 at 9:37 am
well they are coming to take me away aha..anybody remember that NAPOLEON the 14th 45? it was banned from the radio..also 8 miles high..the byrds song that had nothing to do with drugs..and steppenwolfs monster…SO YA SEE IT ALL COMES AROUND..THEY ARE COMING TO TAKE YOU AWAY..THE UNITED SNAKES IS A MONSTER RUN AMOCK..AND WE ARE 8 MILES HIGH IN DEEP DEBT.AND ONLY THE LITTLE PEOPLE PAY TAXES…
March 7th, 2009 at 10:36 am
amen ron paul has said that for YEARS
END THE FED
GET OUT OF THE UNITED NATIONS
WHEN WILL AMERICANS FIGHT?????????????
WHEN???????????
March 7th, 2009 at 10:40 am
and so it begins…
“They’re taking the patriots away ha ha, they’re taking the patriots away ho ho”
March 7th, 2009 at 10:47 am
This video is a must see if you havn’t already. Freakin’ classic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNvcEkvEMoc
EyeswideOpen Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 11:18 am
LOL <3 it
March 7th, 2009 at 11:05 am
NOTE:
If you wan’t to be a Patriot Info. Warrior
- lose the guns.
otherwise
If you wan’t to be a Fully Armed Constitutional Patriot,
speak much more quietly.
Remember – NEVER GIVE the NWO a CHANCE to SCREW YOU!
Nuff Sayed
March 7th, 2009 at 11:12 am
“‘In the internal revenue code 26, there’s nothing specific in there,’ he said in a documentary about taxes…The IRS begs to differ.”
“‘I want to make sure that you understand what the government says you did wrong. Whether your agree with it or not is for future litigation. You understand that sir,’ asked the judge…’What the government says I did wrong,’ asked Lindsey…’Yes, sir,’ replied the judge.”
I’ve read the entire story, word for word, and I’m still waiting to hear it. What is Lindsey’s alleged, legal offense, and what does code 26 have to say about it?
March 7th, 2009 at 11:30 am
and this is why Ron Paul should have been president
under the left and right
bush/obama no diffrences both work for the devil
and both will have there part in the lake that burns with brimstone if they repent not
March 7th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
What happened to all the tough talking patriots when ed brown and his wife got hauled in? They backed down, tucked their tails, ran away and let the feds take the browns in.
Those are the patriots who are going to save america?
canuck rage Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
from advocating the killing of christians , to turning on your fellow patriots. yet another brilliant post by patriot2009 . you say everyone will get along by the campfires, but I dont know why anyone would want to be anywhere near you.
Ditto Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Patriot, who were the f---ing cowards in 1913????
ew keane Reply:
March 8th, 2009 at 10:02 am
dont forget all the tory scum that got chased north after the cease fire.
March 7th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
this is worse than stalin russia now. let the massive starvation begin i guess… thank you federal reserve bankers and thank you corrupt media and thank you fake christian preachers/churches. obama is a communists president… what did people really expect? Marxism is a tactic… it’s goal is to kill it’s suckers that fall for the scam.
March 7th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
its funny how something like an iron clad law that forces us to pay taxes which does not exist is considered frivolous in a court of law. such bulls--- what the gov is getting away with they are literally making s--- up as they go along.everyday it’s some new bulls--- with these people.
March 7th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Just having a bank account concedes federal jurisdiction because ALL banks are federal reserve banks period. If you are going to be a sovereign you must cancel your bank account. You can open an account without a social insecurity number though. If you can get a banker to let you do so. You must remove your commercial free delivery address to general delivery. You must get off the voters “registry”. You must cut all ties to the federal government and stop grovelling for benefits. The “state of” corporations are really federal under the civil rights act and the 14th red amendment. One mistake is all it takes for the feds to get jurisdiction.
March 7th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Definitely an overkill to scare people.
What part of tax enforcement exist in the abbreviations for Federal Bureau of Investigation??
That is why they threw the charges of Wachovia theft to act like it was a bank robbery.
Why not just use your drones to bomb the place as well??
These people will be posted all over the media as an example despite the lack of reporting news of secret bills approving trillions to their banskter croonies.
Selective reporting as admitted by MSNBC when Ron Paul an elected official to Congress spoke what his voters conveyed to him.
March 7th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 created a private corporation (hereinafter “Corp. U.S.”) owned and operated by the actual government for the purpose of carrying out the business needs of the government … Read Moreunder martial law.
This means… It is a private ‘municipal corporation’ with no lawful or legal juristiction outside the District of Columbia. It is a corporation for profit. The act of 1871 duplicates our original Constitutiona but leaves out the 13th amedment. Read that amendment and you will quickly realize the chains they have placed on all Americans.
If you enter into contractual agreements with this corporation, marriage, sociall security card, etc.. You in effect become a federal employee, and bound by their authority.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.....ct_of_1871
REB Reply:
March 7th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Well then, I QUIT!
March 7th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
do not you think that not paying taxes contributes to bigger account deficit ? That is disgusting that people toss profits from corporation to corporation in order to avoid taxes , that hurts all of us
I approve the government and will report anyone if I obtain such knowledge and you all shall do the same
there is a reason for taxation it prevents hyperinflation
March 7th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Typo error. (Lindsey was set to be arraigned Thursday, but would not allow a public defender to represent him.) Public pretender
Here’s the deal. This is just more validation how ignorant and apathetic the sheeple are in this country. Supposedly before these jack booted gestapo brainwashed puppets had to have an indictment from the Grand Jury before they could get their fix on the adrenalin rush. So who makes up the Grand Jury unless this also has morphed into another fraud illusion of some kind of justice?
Once again the sheeple cut their own throat by even convicting on tax charges and don’t even know it. SHOW ME THE LAW! Everybody keeps on talking about getting rid of the Fed and their once again gestapo collection agency IRS, but they totally keep missing the boat. If the American people got their head out of their ASS and come out of their coma, they would come to the reality that if they just quit convicting their fellow Americans on these bogus charges, what could they do except exposed themselves as the real criminals they are that have been robbing the people for generations.
THE POWER OF THE JUDGE AND PROSECUTOR OVER A JURY WILL ALWAYS BE IN DIRECT PROPORTION TO THE DEGREE OF THE JURY’S IGNORANCE.
WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!
John Galt Reply:
March 8th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Well said. If anyone is LISTENING. HELLO. Where are they being held????
March 7th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
GAMES ON MOTHER FUKERS
March 7th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Kinda like a “school walk out” we are not all going to get in trouble.
March 7th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Taxes are a fraud period. They don’t go to pay for anything but the criminals that run the corporate structure. I hear others say that if we don’t pay taxes, then what would keep this country going?
BULLs---!!! Head up butt again.
The reality is that the money that keeps everything happening is all created out of thin air and continuously pumped into the system with us being the debtor with interest incurred. Even the scriptures tell us that the usury of money is a sin.
The money you pay on federal income taxes does not go to keep the boat afloat. It goes to the criminals who have been in control of this country and the world for ever. The money that continues to pay for all the fraud that goes on is borrowed from the Fed on interest.
Why the hell do you think we have come to the table with trillions of dollars in debt.
How would u like to go borrow a million dollars spend it on what ever you want and then claim that the people are responsible to pay it back?
In closing, allow me to give you a perspective on this debt created and allowed by our so called leaders.
If you spent a million dollars a day since the birth of Jesus you wouldn’t have spent as much as CONgress did in the stimulus bill. Now quadruple that amount and you will have the cost of the Iraq war.
March 7th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Once you say yes to any of the judges questions, then they have jurisdiction over you. Like Ghandi said, don’t acknowledge “their” laws and they can’t do anything to you.
March 7th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
http://pop.youtube.com/watch?v=u1_DcFBZcrc
Is it better to die on your feet, or live on your knees ?
March 7th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
http://pop.youtube.com/watch?v=u1_DcFBZcrc
-Is it better to die on your feet, or live on your knees ?
March 7th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
http://pop.youtube.com/watch?v=u1_DcFBZcrc
–Is it better to die on your feet, or live on your knees ?
March 7th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
http://pop.youtube.com/watch?v=u1_DcFBZcrc
March 7th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
they get arrested for tax evasion but some of obamas cabinet members don’t. i guess we all see how it works.
Gulag_Archipelago Reply:
March 8th, 2009 at 9:51 am
good point.
March 7th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
It’s nothing more than legalized extortion! It’s down right funny that they govt went after the mob for their extortion rackets, where they threaatened business with some type of harm if they didn’t pay up. Then comes along the US govt and their thugs doing than same damm thing as the mob, only they make themselves legal in a court of law at what they do! That being said, listen up Feds and all your robotic agents who carry out the govts extortion racket. Your day is coming sooner rather than later and the American people who win back this ONCE great Republic will not except your excuses that YOU were just following orders!
March 7th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
The Founders gave us a Republic.
We gave it away almost immediately.
Welcome to the U.S.S.A.!!
March 7th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
I have an urgent message for infowars, more important than any message you can
hear. God is Holy and cannot accept sin. Why are there famine, disasters,
death, etc in the world? Mans REBELLION against God! God wrote the law on each
man’s heart so they are without excuse on judgment day when we will ALL stand
before Christ. I plead with you because God wants me to show you the truth in
love! All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God(Romans 3:23). The
penalty of sin is death and eternal punishment in the LAKE OF FIRE. You are
dead in your sins and headed for hell which is described in the Word as a FIRE
THAT QUENCHES NOT. It is a horrible and terrible place of torment that people
will go because of their sins. But God has provided a way for each to escape
the lake of fire. “For God so loved the world, He sent his only Begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life”
John 3:16. Jesus suffered a horrible death and rose again 3 days later to take
the penalty of YOUR sins! He loved you so much that He provided a way for man
to escape the lake of fire! All you must do to be saved is BELIEVE in Him(trust
in Him to save you). That is it! No works or anything you do can save you! May
God open your eyes, that one day I may see you in heaven. Read the Word of
God(I recommend the King James version) before rejecting it! Death is fleeting.
You may NOT have tomorrow! For death comes when we least expect it! Make sure
you are saved TODAY! The Bible condemns the rich, the wealthy, those who take
advantage of the poor, so it CANNOT have been made up by the elite. Because the
Word clearly CONDEMNS people such as those! Read the Word for yourself and see
that the claims are true!!!
I am a Christian, and STILL struggle with sin. Many so called Christians are
arrogant and hypocritical and think they have it all together. It is my desire
to do RIGHT as a Christian but will falter just like anyone else.
P.S.-the jesus-is-savior(dot com) site btw, agrees about the govt conspiracy
and exposes 911 being and inside job and the corruption of the govt.
Click on my “truther” name to find out how to be saved!
Seal Reply:
March 8th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Aw-men(amen), Ay-men(amen) and aye meen!
vikingscool Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 4:23 am
Amen! God bless you, brother!
eagleman299 Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 12:45 am
He also said to all you Church gowers , depart from me etc, You have to Qulafy First , Better find out How to qulafy first befor you , tell others how to do it .
March 7th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
I’m confident that he can beat this in court like they have before. The power of the jury.
March 7th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Unity is a Mighty and Powerful Thing!
http://WWW.WARNTHEPEOPLE.ORG
March 7th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
the patriot roundup starts.. to bad those guys didn’t use the guns they supposedly had, maybe next time. if they beat it in court they’ll just be held indefinitely under the terrorist patriot act bull.
March 8th, 2009 at 12:23 am
Mr Lindsey seems to be pretty sharp when it comes to jurisdiction. One he refused legal representation. Twice the judge asked, do you understand. Note He did nor reply. By not ansewring that question he is asserting his soveriegnty, and implying that he does not stand under the judge. Lindsey as a free man under God, the judge has no authority. The judge does have authority over the person, the legal fiction created by your birth certificate. Had he acepted legal aid or said he understands, he would create joinder between the legal fiction and the man, thus surrendering his sovereignty, under God. LINDSEY is a trust ceated by the government, but Lindsey is a freeman created by God. I hope you all comprehend what I am saying. Follow this case closely, there should be no trial, unless Lindsey slips up, and grants the judge jurisdiction.
Seal Reply:
March 8th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
God save us all from the lying letcherous evils controlling our so called “free” western Courts!
Ace's & Eight's Reply:
March 9th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Roger That !
David Stratton Reply:
March 12th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
I understand and am eager to see what happens. In the meantime, check out losthorizons.com if you haven’t already seen it. The guy that wrote that book has been to court 4 times with the IRS and has started a court case without asserting any sovereignty.
The IRS has, every time, pleaded for the judge to dismiss the case. That’s pretty crazy. This guy is beating them at their own game. The tide is turning and people are waking up. But be ready and be warned: it’s going to force Satan’s hand, and the backlash is going to be swift and nasty.
I’ve heard from at least 6 different sources in the religious, military, militia, and secular world that we have about 6 months left until bank runs start, follow shortly thereafter by riots/looting and martial law.
RIGHT NOW is the time to be stocking up on seeds, food, ammunition, guns. Get your money OUT of the banks. Keep only enough in to pay rent when you’ve got to. When bank runs start it’s going to be worthless anyway. Might as well convert it to silver/gold and then sell it back as you need it.
March 8th, 2009 at 1:16 am
There is a place on Sundays to evangelize the Truth. At the QUAKER (Association of Friends) Meetings, everybody sits down and shuts up and they allow the Holy Spirit to enter the room. People are willed by Christ to stand up and speak what’s on their mind. There is no Preacher and Minister so the Service is totally interactive.
also check out subudusa.org
Seal Reply:
March 8th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
I found out about the Sabbath, why do Protestants keep sunday? See the booklet.
David Stratton Reply:
March 12th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
This is fine as long as you confirm everything that is said with God’s word. Satan can enter people and make them talk too. It says in the Bible that Satan can appear even as an angel of light performing miracles.
The only way to know if it’s Satan or God is to check to see if what the Spirit is doing is supported by Scripture.
March 8th, 2009 at 3:09 am
Yet…66% of all Corporations and around 60% of us locals don’t file or pay either!!! That’s why it’s called PAYROLL taxes!!! Paying for our own Robbery we Americans are!!!! I got Title26 hangin’ right MF’n here!!! Let alone our purported “ELECTED”!!! Maybe , just maybe, the New Sheriff of Rock Ridge can implement change Dagnabbit!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
March 8th, 2009 at 3:55 am
One good family at a time. In jail. One at a time. IN JAIL…
March 8th, 2009 at 3:57 am
Time to leave the usa folks… Too few are fighting….Mr. Lindsey is another. Dead or in jail.
March 8th, 2009 at 4:44 am
Make your tax checks out to the U.S. Treasury. If they can’t cash it, it is their problem.
March 8th, 2009 at 5:18 am
AHAHAH the Cod 26 lol the Code that they made lol bs taxe’s cause the world to end, why would i want to work hard in my life and pay the goverment
March 8th, 2009 at 5:25 am
It’s starting…………
AR: Arkansas Doctor Arrested On Weapons Charges
http://www.abc3340.com/news/st.....01455.html
March 8th, 2009 at 5:30 am
“Oliver says Mann showed investigators a grenade launcher that day that he legally owned.”
It’s Starting.
AR: Arkansas Doctor Arrested On Weapons Charges
http://www.abc3340.com/news/st.....01455.html
March 8th, 2009 at 8:43 am
When will the beds run out?
March 8th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
These men need assistance. Time for a money bomb. Does anyone know them or their families so they can be helped? Collective assistance. Name of the Sheriff. Name of the Judge. Name of the Prosecutor. Place they are being held.
Seal Reply:
March 8th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Excellent plan we must know everything then send TRUTHERS out to watch out for and protest for their release!
David Stratton Reply:
March 12th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Oh didn’t you hear? They suspended habeas corpus. They don’t have to tell you where he’s being held. He’s probably already dead. Welcome to America 2.0–serving you a speedy trial by cutting out the jurors!
March 8th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
I don’t understand all this “nothing specific in Title 26″ stuff. I found the laws against tax evasion pretty easily. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/us....._40_I.html
Bob Reply:
March 8th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Did you now?
“Any person who willfully attempts in any manner to evade or defeat any tax imposed by this title or the payment thereof shall, in addition to other penalties provided by law, be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not more than $100,000 ($500,000 in the case of a corporation), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both, together with the costs of prosecution. ”
Are you a “person”? Have you ever heard a charge of murder read aloud on Court T.V.? Here is an example from California statutes…
Penal Code §187 – Murder defined
(a) Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being, or a fetus, with malice aforethought.
Notice the difference? You are a “human being” when you are murdered, but you are a “person” for taxation purposes. They are fooling you/us by legalese. It is a SCAM!
Go to losthorizons.com for more information.
David Stratton Reply:
March 12th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Hey God bless you brother. Losthorizons got me a $187 full refund of state withholdings in Wisconsin so far. I’m still waitin’ on the other checks to roll in. I’ll vouch for Bob here: losthorizons.com works wonders.
Bob: I’ve been writing on the back of all the mail I send “www.losthorizons.com It really works!!!” If even ONE person reads that, remembers the domain name, and checks it out, it’s all worth it.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
unless you have reclaimed your Sovereign citizenship you have no rights, only 14 amendment privileges, which can be given or taken from the grantee without notice. If you have a birth certificate, drivers license,s.s.# card, or any other grant or privilege from the State, or Federal Government you are not a United States of America Citizen, you are United state Citizen Subject Slave, you have unknowingly exchanged your RIGHTS in Exchange for Privileges, which can be taken away at any time according to the law,which means no 2nd amendment rights, or any other for that matter, if you are born in the USA, you are a SOVEREIGN, and once issued a birth cirtificate are automatically a subject slave!! Please If you do not belive me then prove me wrong starting here…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4HzbUGPFto
PLEASE RECLAIMED YOUR SOVEREIGN CITIZENSHIP SO WE THE PEOPLE CAN PUT A STOP TO THE NWO IT IS THE ONLY WAY OTHER THEN REVOLUTION PLEASE DRAW THE LINE SO WE CAN ALL MAKE THE PUSH!!!!!!!
March 8th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
I think the prisons should all be emptied out, then put the fbi, irs, fed res, cia, congress and all the other ASS-WIPE agencies in them, then feed them dogs--- !!!!!
March 9th, 2009 at 12:57 am
If the FBI, CIA, ATF etc can organize, why can’t the people start to organize? Maybe it is time that Americans should organize?
David Stratton Reply:
March 12th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Simple: Fluoridated water.
I stopped drinking fluoridated water. I’ve got a shotgun and an AK-47 and I’m waiting for someone to throw down the gauntlet. Let me be very clear here: I’m NOT interested in killing anyone. I’m interested in being protected. If someone starts firing at me or threatens to shoot, I WILL kill them, but I’m not interested or excited about having to do that. However, at some point an armed march is going to be the only thing that will push the government back from doing terribly fascist things like…oh…I dunno, setting up border patrol checkpoints up to 100 miles away from the border.
On THAT note, check out www(dot)youtube(dot)com/CheckpointUSA. That’s not my account, but the guy has some very stark videos, and a lot of them have conveniently started to be removed by YouTube (which is owned and operated by Google. Is anyone surprised by this?) for “Terms of Use violation.” Well let me tell you right off the bat: This dude had no copyright infringements because I’ve seen his vids. So check them out while you’ve still got a chance to do so.
One of the videos makes the VERY interesting point that the Department of Homeland “Security” makes the claim that its jurisdiction extends 100 miles beyond the border into the heartland of our country. Moreover, they state numerous times that the Constitution has no relevance–or at least is not the HIGHEST legal document–in their jurisdiction. Interestingly, roughly 2/3 (190million people) of the population of the United States of America lives within 100 miles of the borders of our nation. So apparently only 33% of us live in a region where the Constitution is the highest legal document in the land. Guess what? Washington, D.C. is less than 100 miles from the eastern coast. Uh oh! Guess what that means? That means when Bush says “Don’t quote me that [darn] piece of paper,” he can get away with it because the Constitution isn’t the highest legal document anymore.
Well friends…I don’t know how you feel about that. Me, I don’t seem to recall a point in time where the American people voted to say “Let’s make something other than the Constitution the highest legal document in our nation.” Maybe I was having a nap under a rock or something.
In closing, I want to point out one more interesting factoid: there seem to be a looooot fewer people on the infowars forum trolling and mocking us for pointing this stuff out. Interesting, that.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:03 am
Gee, the FBI is so concern with the little guy, that they cant go after the folks that is in the current administration that has broken tax rules. Why is that? Could it be that the FBI is afraid of these people? Seems the FBI these days lost the backbone to do what is “right”. Shame on them….
March 9th, 2009 at 2:09 am
I happen to know Jan Lindsey and what the Govt is doing to him and his family is atrocious. He is a decorated war hero from what I remembered of him. He was awarded the purple heart in the Vietnam war. He has always followed the “correct” laws and not the unjust ones created by the corrupt govt. He knows first hand how wrong the Govt has been since he was an FBI agent and he retired with honors. Also they still employed him part time for other investigations even after he stopped paying his taxes… so if he was such a “paper terroist” why would they still have him on their payroll if he was doing anything wrong.. The answer is he was and has been in the right and it scares the Govt. They are trying to silence one of their own who knows the truth and isn’t afraid to voice it. I just hope that everyone who reads this blog remembers that we need to support this true American and not their own agendas. Thank you.
David Stratton Reply:
March 12th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
If he was taking money from the FBI–a federal agency–then he was the recipient of income. If he was then turning around and stating that he had $0 of income, then he was a L-I-A-R. If, however, he was reporting the full amount of his federal pay as income and then not reporting the money he made working a non-federally privileged job, then that’s fine and the IRS should have no qualm with him except insofar as they can whip up some media hype to scare the rest of us into calling the IRS Ol’ Massah.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:26 am
I am getting so tired at the graft and dishonesty around every corner. It’s a scary thought that you can’t trust government agencies because there are crooks and criminals directing them at higher levels–sad.
March 9th, 2009 at 6:40 am
I live in N Vegas and have just recently learned the truth about 9/11. I had ideas of what was going on in the World but have just recently started to dig deeper into things in seeking the truth. Maybe I should go visit Mr Lindsey?
March 9th, 2009 at 8:01 am
Now that I’m paying attention, I notice that every year right around now the IRS goon squad makes a big public move like this to scare the sheep into volunteering to be sheared!
March 10th, 2009 at 2:01 am
To: Truther & Seal
Seal about the Sabbath, Protestants keep Sunday because they do not know they are and even worse they do not know who there Elohim/God is. In Matthew 5 (Bible) Yeshua/ Jesus in Greek, warns us that we should not teach anyone to due away with his commandments. Commandment 4 in Exodus 20 instructs ALL to keep the Sabbath. Too many Christians who do NOT read their entire Bible preach on Sundays and keep the Sunday. The advesary is the father of liea and has lied to the church since the year 325 during Constantines time and the birth of the Catholics.
Truther,
You must seek your identity in Christ and understand how you are part of Israel and the 12 tribes. Pray for understanding. This sovereign idea is from God and it’s a type of Exodus from Slavery in the US. Keep your eyes on the holy land.
Yah..
This Soverign
David Stratton Reply:
March 12th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
You sound like you might be a Messianic Jew. You’re right on the money about Sabbath. However, where Messianic Jews get whacky is with Daniel 9:27 where it clearly states “…and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease…” The entire book of Daniel points DIRECTLY to Jesus Christ as the Messiah. This part says that in the midst of the 7 years prophecy (3.5 years into it) He would be crucified and cut off from even God. In so doing, He would bring an end to the SACRIFICE and OBLATION.
So again, you’re absolutely right about Sabbath. I’m a Seventh-day Adventist; I keep the Sabbath myself. But I don’t slap Yeshua in the face by offering cheap imitation sacrifices of lambs and goats when He has already shed His own blood in their stead. Paul says specifically and pointedly there is NO remission of sins in the blood of a bullock or a goat. Moreover, he says that the handwritten ordinances (the laws of Moses) were nailed to the cross. By contrast, the Eternal Ten were NOT written by the hands of men. They were rather etched into sapphire stone by the hand of Yahweh Himself.
The notion that we should wear tassels (tzitziyah), not mix fibers on our garments, etc. is silly in light of this. But if you want to have a serious conversation about it instead of back-and-forth bickering on Infowars, shoot me an IM on AIM. My screenname is MentorOfMinos
March 10th, 2009 at 2:04 am
Corrections: “Who” inserted after “know” in sentence 1
Corrections: liea should be Lies
My apologies to all you grammar people..
March 10th, 2009 at 2:08 am
So, I also live in Las Vegas and I was concerned about this Lindsey character, should I be fearful of going through the sovereign process?
If I get a speeding ticket how does the city get to punish me for breaking their law?
David Stratton Reply:
March 12th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
The city gets to punish you because you have a driver’s license. Since you signed on the dotted line to get your driver’s license, you have agreed to abide by rules and regulations imposed by the federal and state authorities.
If you do NOT have a driver’s license and do NOT register your vehicle (i.e. you keep the Manufacturer’s Certificate of Origin, aka Manufacturer’s Statement of Origin) then you are only under the jurisdiction of the police if you commit a common law crime such as running over a pedestrian or taking out someone’s mailbox with your car. Speeding does not hurt anyone, it simply increases your likelihood of having a fatal accident. As such, it isn’t a good idea to speed, but it does not directly cause injury to anyone.
March 12th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Right. Don’t feed it by using the Federal Reserve system. Switch to the American Open Currency Standard.
March 12th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
I will try this for the twentieth time or so on Infowars. All of the various “Don’t pay income tax” theories are exactly that: theories. They do not have any evidence backing it up. One guy who hasn’t paid in 10 years isn’t evidence. As this shows, all it is is the IRS waiting until he owes enough back taxes that they can milk him for interest money for the rest of his life–and get a really cool photo-op of their thugs in all their black tactical gear so the women and children are terrified into docility.
There is only ONE method of legally not paying income tax that has EVIDENCE to back it up. It is available at www(dot)losthorizons(dot)com. The man who runs the website and sells the book “Cracking the Code: The Fascinating Truth about Taxation in America” is named Peter Eric Hendrickson. Not only has he not gone to jail, he’s won four separate IRS court cases brought against him. Moreover, THOUSANDS of people have read his book and are implementing the knowledge they gain from so doing. The result? Nearly $10million in wrongfully withheld money being returned to these people since 2003. THAT, friends, is EVIDENCE.
You look at everyone else and they are either starting to get crackdowns or have already been carted off to jail. Pete’s system stands in stark contrast: not one of its practitioners have been sent to jail. Not ONE.
I am happy to say that as of Wednesday March 11, 2009 I became a recipient of a 100% refund of ALL money withheld from my earnings from the state of Wisconsin. An IRS check, Pennsylvania Department of Revenue check, and Pittsburgh local tax check are on their way as well. Let me be clear: I am getting 100% of my local income tax withholdings, 100% of my state income tax withholdings, 100% of federal income tax withholdings, 100% of Social Security withholdings, AND 100% of Medicare withholdings returned to me.
Why? Because like 95% of Americans, I have no INCOME (as that term is defined in the Internal Revenue Code and the Classifications Act of 1923). As such, that money was WRONGFULLY WITHHELD.
As I said, there is only ONE right way to do this. Everything else will get you carted right off to jail or slapped with heavy fines. So if you want to be a slave, just ignore my message and pay your taxes. If you want to be a dope, ignore my message and keep doing it your own way and end up in jail with NO liberty. BUT…if you want your money back AND you want to be free…then get the wax out of your ears, listen up, and modify your behavior accordingly.
Once again: www(dot)losthorizons(dot)com.
If any of you have any questions about this or want me to give you proof that I received a full refund, I would be delighted to assist. My screenname on AIM is MentorOfMinos. Hope to hear from you! Oh…and I’m extremely impatient of harassment. Save that for the forums; I don’t have time to waste on you if you’re just looking to pick a fight and will be quick to boot you.