Officials claim “anti-government” ex-con and marijuana cultivator used the “militia training” range for his nefarious purposes, according to FBI informer.
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June 10th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Next they will ban ranges all together can’t have that lead poisoning the Earth
qi woo Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 10:16 am
FBI informant-Project Appleseed-Terrorist Activity-Milltia
No programing here just good work by our government,and they don’t profile.
TEX Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
f--- YOU ASSHOLE AS A FORMER OPERATIVE WITH THE “FAT BOYS INSTIUTE”
YOU !!!! ARE A DRONE—-P I T I F U L !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chris Cudnoski Reply:
June 12th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Thank you to all trolls and patriots alike for using cuss words on this forum. The government “loves the children” of this nation too much to let them be exposed to such language. Internet 2 will impose fines on websites that allow such language to be used. It will be up to the website host to either pay the fines, pay a fee to allow x-rated content, or pay a moderator to censor your comments since you can’t seem to censor yourselves.
BTW 80% the so-called patriots who make valid, cogent points, and then throw in 3 or 4 cuss words, are paid or unpaid trolls. All they have to do is say something true, that you can agree with, then they pile on the vulgarity which will lead to this sites downfall, and you allow this to happen because you happen to agree with the statement they made.
If you are not a troll, stop the cussing.
Zaphrod Baggins Reply:
June 13th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
f--- off you goddam control freak from Satan’s asshole.
Fake gawd baby jeesus lunatic brainwashed christian garbage.
There is no rhinestone gawd flying out of the clouds in a pink robe, riding on a gold chariot with gay wings coming to save your dumb ass. YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN, and it includes all kinds of horrible things that your baby brain won’t like, and there is not a goddam thing you can do to stop it.
This world is a fang-tooth flesh eating freakshow, a godless karnivore dead animal bloody feast from hell. Think about this the next time you are eating a slab of dead meat on a plate.
Fake christian assholes. ( There is no easter bunny gawd coming to save you, you are not worth saving.)
Sincerely,
Dan Illuminati
Godzilla Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 11:09 am
I guess my idea of paper targets with soldiers wearing little blue helmets wouldn’t go over so well huh?
John Henke Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
I always have a hard time at the range. Instead of hitting the “twinkie”, I hit the no-reflex zone around the eyes and nose.
I explain that that aria is only protected by a face shield. I tend to hoard my Teflon treated ammo for more spontaneous occasions.
As G. Gorden Litty one put it. When a goon squad comes through the door, remember. “Head shots, head shots”.
homedawg Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
yep…ranges are next on the hit list
MAD DOG Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
AN FBI INFORMANT
NOW THATS A CREDIBLE SOURCE
MAD DOG Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
HOW CAN LEAD POISON THE GROUND
DOESNT IT COME FROM THE GROUND ?
yeahright Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
right, only depleted urainum is allowed in the ground
Rick Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Oh yeah that’s good. They will charge so much for toxic clean up only the wealthiest will be able to run a range. That is their way of thought or lack there of. I could see that happening, stranger things have happened.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:49 am
There’s nothing illegal about militia training. Or training to take on the goverment.
thefreedomwriter Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 11:01 am
no kidding, so by this logic, the govt should shut down a McDonalds if an ex-con eats a cheeseburger there? I’m oversimplifying, but you get my point.
Alex had the project appleseed founder on last year and he was a great American. I’m sure this range owner was too.
This is so stupid, make it about the criminal, not the business owner. But I guess he violated the unconstitutional Patriot Act of “know your customer.” So by not being a snitch, he got shut down. LESSON LEARNED!
Zaphrod Baggins Reply:
June 13th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
You are all in the process of being systematically SHUT DOWN, we don’t want you to f--- up the earth anymore.We have installed slo-kill fake cell phone towers all over the USA, to put an end to your whining and complaining.Your brain will not be able to function soon, as we increase the maximum potential from our scalar HAARP star-wars brainwave cell towers, pumping up the scalar 20 HZ intrusion signal, shutting off parts of your brain.
Soon you won’t remember a damn thing, soon you will barely be able to wipe your own goddam asshole, or add and subtract simple numbers. WE OWN YOU, you are the HERD.
PS. WE DO NOT PUT THESE NEW SLOW-KILL DEATH TOWERS NEAR OUR OWN MILITARY BASES, we are not stupid.
Shut the f--- up and do what we tell you to do.We OWN YOU.
Sincerely,
Dan Illuminati
…
Kansan Reply:
June 14th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
your a winner……. What goes around comes around……..Boomer
patriot223 Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Read your constitution, Militia train is legal, therefore any training the militia recieves is legal, and this training is aimed at domestic defense. The only domestic defending we need is from invation, both global and internal. MILITIA TRAINING IS LEGAL
rik thomas Reply:
June 14th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
yeah, if you want to play constitutional. the whole gun ownership thing comes from “a well armed militia” in the fourth amendment.
so militia is the MOST legal constituional right. people should only be allowed to own guns if they ar in a MILITIA!
at this point this is pretty good idea.
Vet4life63 Reply:
June 15th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Let me try to correct your FUBARE’D post. First of all its a “Well regulated Milita” Not a well armed Militia. Next, its the 2nd admendment ( know your own damned constituition will ya?!) not the 4th admendment. The 4th admendment deals with unlawful search and seizure, not a “well armed militia”. However, the 2nd admendment does protect the first admendment ( your right to free speech, even if its misquotes, and inaccurate statements.)
As Paul Harvey would say: “Good Day”.
” A 9mm may expand, but a 45 never contracts”
stupidamerkin Reply:
June 11th, 2009 at 2:31 am
Waking up in the morning and thinking is illegal. What are u talking about?
LaughterD Reply:
June 11th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
NOT ILLEAGAL? THEYRE OUTRIGHT PROTECTED BY THE CONSTITUTION!!! I guess millitias have proved too damn effective against governments before.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Let us remember America is the heaviest armed country in the world.
Randolph Grant Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 10:24 am
“The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.”
Thomas Jefferson
cindy Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Another great ism from Thomas Jefferson! Thanks, I haven’t seen this one.
1776blues Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Amen to that, hopefully our Leo’s realize what the agenda by the USNWO Government is and they are not part of the elite’s plan.
Everyday you read and hear the Government and MSM propaganda painting patriots as terrorists; sadly though we know it works on the mindless drones in our society.
stupidamerkin Reply:
June 11th, 2009 at 2:32 am
So is it’s military complex.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:59 am
We know who the real terrorists are. We know who backs False Flag attacks in our country.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:01 am
When I heard that a drug dealer was training there and then learned that the guy was just a skunk farmer it is obviously a media blowup. Where did they get the anti-government forces bit from? This seems to have been manufactered from whole cloth. I couldn’t see anything anti-government there.
Under the constitution it is a requirement of citizens to be able to form up “Organized and unorganized militia. This is a constitutional safeguard to prevent tyrannical forms of government. Under the right to bear arms it is a patriotic duty to gain competence through range practice and association with other citizens.
Obama has a tall order. He is dedicated to disarming the American people by September. He has already told his masters that he can do it.
Any attempt to disarm the US public is an act of war against the people. You have the right to resist. Time to protect your inalienable rights. Never give up your guns. It is a right that your forefathers fought for.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:07 am
“When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”
June 10th, 2009 at 10:10 am
The feds believe that every citizen who is white and pro 2nd amendment could be the next Timothy McVeigh.
Bob (no the other Bob) Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 10:48 am
There’s every reason to believe that McVeigh was working for the government. A video taken by a commercial crew, show McVeigh in uniform, on a military base, working on an APC, after his supposed discharge date. McVeigh also wrote his sister that he had joined a covert US agency. So, think what you will but I believe that McVeigh was simply another government operative.
Also, there were bomb “exercises” going on at the exact time and place of the Oklahoma bombing. Sounds like government false-flag SOP to me:
1) Oklahoma City bombing
2) 9/11
3) 7/7 bombing in England
How much more proof does anyone need that this government has gone mustang??
chickenlittle(NOT!) Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
I believe Timothy McVeigh was guilty as hell of blowing up a Ryder truck. As for the federal building in OKC. thats another story.
NO BLINDFOLD.
kr Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Do a search on “Ted Gunderson”. I met, and heard Ted speak on that very subject. Ted is an ex-FBI agent. He stated clearly that McVeigh and Nichols were both recruited by the gov’t who then of course turned on them and set them up to take the fall. He also stated that the explosive was not fertilizer as reported. He goes on to talk about 911, Kennedy assassination and other subject matter. Check him out.
Rick Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Plus there was numorous reports of other unexploded bombs found all around the outside of the building.
lovemyM1A1 Reply:
June 13th, 2009 at 12:07 am
McVeigh was a “Patsy” in every sense of the word. Read the book: Oklahoma City: Day One by M. Moore. The truth of the evidence is so overwhelming it will make you sick.
The Oklahoma City “master mind” or at least the senior field operative, was the 3rd man that was never found. This third man and McVeigh visited William Cooper in AZ and tried to get him to go along with them to Oklahoma City. Cooper wisely refused, then warned America to watch Oklahoma City because something terrible was about to happen there….
Is there anyone out there who believes that a small truck bomb can crack a foundation 4 stories below the ground? I suppose you also think that the unexploded “military” explosives (in 5 gallon buckets) found inside the building was just a little something the janitor forgot to throw out???
Read the above book. While you’re at it read William Cooper’s book (from hourofthetime.com).
As Patrick Henry said: “The great object is, that every men be armed…. Every one who is able may have a gun” (arguing that Congress might use its authority over the state militias to disarm the population…..)
yeahright Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
and their right….
Charlie Foxtrot Adm. Reply:
June 11th, 2009 at 1:06 am
Well, McVeigh was their FBI stooge.
What they’re REALLY scared to death of is that every
white citizen who is pro 2nd amendment could be the next
RAMBO!
June 10th, 2009 at 10:17 am
And Big Brother overstates how he “saves the day” yet again. The reason they closed the range is not what they state, guaranteed. It’s “bad enough” that we still have firearms in their eyes, so why make it worse by letting us actually learn to use them while enjoying our sport? You can bet your bottom dollar that this is exactly on the government’s agenda somewhere. Restrict ammo, close ranges and take any tiny bite out of firearms possessed they can until they drop the hammer and come after all of them.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:48 am
???? Someone was shooting at this range, so the First Blackwater Idiots got a search warrant for his storage unit and house???
WTF? How did they get a search warrant ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
June 10th, 2009 at 10:57 am
So… a guy that doesn’t have his ” rights” to own firearms shows up to use the gun range. The government closes the range and calls it anti government. The next time there’s an accident on the freeway, can we expect the government to shut down the freeway? And then, more people who don’t have their “God” given right to own firearms will have them !
Hester Reply:
June 14th, 2009 at 7:48 am
good point
June 10th, 2009 at 10:58 am
So what if it is a “Militia Training Camp”
Militias and Militia menbership are CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED Civic activities. The Militia is he ONLY Civic Group that has a mandate rooted in the Constitution. The government would have an easier court battle if they decided to shut down the “Rotary Club” or the 4H Club, and the government knows it.
It is the Militias which give the United States Constitution its muscle.
Had a Militia unit been active in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, the police would not have been permitted to confiscate the guns of law abiding citizens.
As the courts have found; the police had no authority to confiscate peoples guns or other property.
This is a function of the Militia, to give the power to the people when armed gangs (in this case the police) step outside of Constitutional boundaries.
A gang of armed robbers have the power to rob a bank, but they do not have the authority to do so.
MAD DOG Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
FIND THE PICTURES OF THE OKLAHOMA CITY BUILDING BOMBING, IN THE FIRST HOURS.
FIND NEWS CLIPS.
I’LL KISS YOU ASS IF THOSE WHITE TRUCKS THAT RESPONDED DONT SAY OKLAHOMA MILITIA.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:58 am
stay away from groups they are filled with informants and crazy followers, watch out who you talk to not all are to be trusted they will do anything for money, a drug user will do anything the police ask they are most police informants.so it is best to stay from persons that use drugs,and beer drinking drunks are worthless stay away from low life scum that think having guns is the right thing to have and use. better yet just stay home and stay away from idiots
June 10th, 2009 at 11:07 am
I hope our children are safe from those crazy anti-government wackos. I pray our brave homeland security department do something to keep them from hurting us. Don’t they realize that this is the greatest country in the world? I mean, look- we have Walmart, McDonalds, Disney Land and Malls to go shopping. We also have great tv like America’s Got Talent, Wrestling, and Deal or No Deal. What more could one ask? We soccer moms just want our kids to be happy and safe.
Pvt. Cowboy's Reach-Around Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Shut up, ya fat-assed bitch.
Chris Cudnoski Reply:
June 12th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Thank you to all trolls and patriots alike for using cuss words on this forum. The government “loves the children” of this nation too much to let them be exposed to such language. Internet 2 will impose fines on websites that allow such language to be used. It will be up to the website host to either pay the fines, pay a fee to allow x-rated content, or pay a moderator to censor your comments since you can’t seem to censor yourselves.
BTW 80% the so-called patriots who make valid, cogent points, and then throw in 3 or 4 cuss words, are paid or unpaid trolls. All they have to do is say something true, that you can agree with, then they pile on the vulgarity which will lead to this sites downfall, and you allow this to happen because you happen to agree with the statement they made.
If you are not a troll, stop the cussing right now!
Tyler Durden Reply:
June 13th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Go to hell, asswipe.
IAMBRAINWASHED Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
I know a wonderful recipe that has seven different GMO foods in it that I would love to share
June 10th, 2009 at 11:11 am
As I Recall—-The week leading up to 9/11—The media was reporting that Important Information about Oklahoma City Bombing was going to be released——–Then 9/11 occured and I have never Heard anymore———-Anyone else remember this…………..
MAD DOG Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
THE WHITE WATER INVESTIGATION AGAINST THE CLINTONS STALLED ALSO, THE PAPERS WERE STORED IN THAT BUILDING
AND THE ENRON SCAM PAPERS WERE IN BUILDING 7 IN NEW YORK
June 10th, 2009 at 11:14 am
BUY GUNS AND BULLETS NOW! PRACTICE PRACTICE! YOU DO NOT NEED MACHINE GUNS TO BE SUCCESSFUL! JUST A GOOD RIFLE AND SCOPE. ONE SHOT ONE KILL WHEN DEER HUNTING!!!
Viet Nam Vet Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Yep!
And if ya want to save valuable ammo……………
Practice with a pellet gun……………
Keeps the eyes sharp and saves ammo………..
A Patriot is a militiaman who readies himself everyday in “Quiet Fury”!
VNV
June 10th, 2009 at 11:39 am
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June 10th, 2009 at 11:47 am
I’m thinking real soon here the streets will be an anti-gov’t shooting range.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:54 am
When the hell it become a crime to be anti-government??
Matthew-FL Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
That’s exactly what I was wondering. People are getting used to the idea that being anti-government is code for extremist murdering drug smuggler baby killer. Such a shame.
Just Me Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
LAWL!! When the hell did it become illegal to practice as a Militia. When did Militia = dangerous??
EVERY one of our founding fathers would be classified as a wacko, anti-government, extremist, militia trained, domestic terrorist.
MAD DOG Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
EVERYONE NEED TO MAKE A LIBERTY ROPE.
10 FEET LONG FOR EVERY 100 YR’S.
1 FOOT FOR EVERY DECADE AND 1 INCH FOR EVERY YEAR UNTIL IT EQUALS THE AMOUNT OF TIME AMERICA HAS EXISTED.
PUT A GIANT KNOT IN IT TO SYMBOLIZE THE STRUGGLE TO REMAIN FREE.
ADD A LOOP TO SYMBOLIZE THE 360 CIRCLE WE’VE TAKEN FROM TYRANNY TO FREEDOM TO TYRANNY.
AND PROUDLY DISPLAY YOUR LIBERTY ROPE FROM THE HIGHEST TREE FOR ALL TO SEE.
sandy Reply:
June 11th, 2009 at 6:52 am
I am moving into a new neighborhood in 2 weeks… I am going to do this… I have a great field with a single tree to display… I love it .. THANK YOU!!!!!
lovemyM1A1 Reply:
June 13th, 2009 at 12:19 am
It became a crime when the Patriot Act gave the government the authority to search your house with out a warrant, and the Military Commission’s Act gave them authority to secretly take you out of the country, imprison you, torture you and kill you.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Well they would have heart attacks at the ranges around here…
June 10th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
At least Appleseed got a plug. They show a redcoat, a QDAQT and 1″ squares targets. I wish that they had given the http://WWW.RWVA.ORG website too.
Damn those Dope Smokin Radicals anyway.
When I was in kindergarten I had a lunch box that featured two outlaws than ran illegal drugs (moonshine is as illegal as hell), kept a ready supply of explosives which they often used to blow up cop cars/jails/offices and had a racist hate emblem (stars & bars) covering the hood of their car which they used repeatedly to flee the police while on parole.
Its a wonder that I’m not one of those Anti-Government types myself.
William Wallace Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Instead you’ve turned out to be a brainwashed robot with the potential to be a New World Nazi. Maybe you should get a haircut, join the army, and help kick in the doors of the Dope Smokin Radicals. And God Bless the Stars and Bars!
John Tito Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
lolz, my hair can’t get much more cut
Charlie Foxtrot Adm. Reply:
June 11th, 2009 at 1:09 am
Yep.
I cut mine with a razor now.
June 10th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Now its a crime to be anti government? I thought dissent was reaffirmed by the constitution, I guess the cops will try to round us up for our thoughts emphasis on TRY.
HA HA HA Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
James Von Brunn is going to ruin your Anti-Government/White Supremesis groups such as this website, Infowars.
John Tito Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
Darn, Just when we were starting to have some good, clean fun, Brunn has to ruin it for everyone.
Someone had better call Ron Paul, tell him to cancel the barbecue.
June 10th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
WE OUGHT TO MAKE UP HUGE BANNERS THAT SAY WE WANT COMMUNISM AND SOME WITH BRING IN THE NEW WORLD ORDER
AND MARCH IN EVERY TOWN.
THAT’LL TURN PEOPLE AGAINST THE NWO.
Hangman1 Reply:
June 11th, 2009 at 3:07 am
That’s actually a GREAT idea. Just to find out what the mindless morons out there would say about it.
June 10th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
When exactly was it that the word “Militia” became something nefarious?? It IS in the Constitution and 2nd Amendme……., oh yeah, nevermind.
June 10th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
As I always say, PACK A GUN AND PAY NO TAX.
June 10th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
This is so laughably wrong, on so many levels. First, the gun range could never have been built, in the first place, if it was in violation of any zoning laws. My guess is that, due to residential develop encroaching on it, over the years, it now may be “in violation,” even though it was there long before any housing was. This happened to a gun range that was once in my neighborhood, about 45 years ago. It was all by itself, out in the country for decades until housing developers drove it out of business by locating housing additions in close proximity to it.
Another thing is the “reporter”s” use of the term “military-style machine gun,” which is typical of the ignorance of these airheads who know nothing about firearms. First, a “machine gun” is not a hand-held weapon and is typically mounted on a tripod or bipod for infantry use. A hand-held fully automatic weapon is properly called a “submachine gun,” due to its smaller size and lighter weight. Secondly, “military-style” betrays a complete ignorance of what constitutes the difference between fully legal semi-automatic civilian sport rifles and fully-automatic military assault rifles.
But, the most laughable comment was about the “thousands of rounds” of expended shell casings “found strewn on the grounds of the range.” LOL! What would you expect to find at an outdoor gun range?! That’s like saying there is something suspect about finding hundreds of bowling balls at a bowling alley.
lovemyM1A1 Reply:
June 13th, 2009 at 12:24 am
Yeh…. those bowling alley’s are hot beds of potential terrorists…. you know the types… people who oppose illegal immagration, oppose gun control, actually own guns!
June 10th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Reference head shots, all good if you have the ability and your glasses on,;o)). I prefer Knee to waist shots, big bones, quick bleed out and little or no armor, most folks can learn that real fast and the women love to practice the technique.
Swag Rooter Reply:
June 11th, 2009 at 1:12 am
Good thought.
They go from able to stretcher casualty in a few seconds,
and tie up more of their manpower.
June 10th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
I think if we had more of these the country would be safer from the FBI
June 10th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Gray’s the FBI informant; how much more of a credible source do ya need
(((3)))
June 10th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
For normal people, government is a servant and the citizenry is its master. So, to be anti-government is to be anti-servant. What could be wrong in masters criticizing servants? Nothing, except for deranged servants who think they are the masters.
Pack a gun and pay no tax.
June 10th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
I wouldnt be surprised if the guy didn’t even deal drugs.
Warship Reply:
June 12th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
if you cant beat them…. join em.
June 10th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
They are”FBI” no more or less susceptible than any another group to corruption; it’s make up of people with an opinion from an independent directive that is lawless and deceitful has a plan for them too.
June 10th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
I guess if the guy was a drug dealer he must have gotten behind in his hush money to the Fed’s so they busted him.
f--- the Fed’s.
June 10th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
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June 10th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
So the big threat is appleseed’s marksmanship program? Or is it ranges? Guns? It’s obvious from this reportage that being anti-gummint is a VERY GOOD THING. I commend these anti-government gun owners I keep ” hearing about on the news”. We need more like them just to balance things out. Where we go target shooting is deep in the mojave desert on blm land. It’s also an off road vehicle area but it’s still safe to shoot because of all the cliffs. Off roaders cant drive off tall cliffs and live so we use one as a backstop. Its a dirt cliff so ricochet is very rare. It’s legal to shoot there ( ridiculously rare in california). And, for the last 3 years if you shoot at this rare legal spot you get hassled.
The idea is to ruin your shooting trip so that you never come back. Make a big stink about all the laws they know you’re not breaking so that it’s no fun anymore. Problem is, it does’nt work. If you go there to shoot, you know the blm “federal agents” will demand to strip search everything. So why bring the m203?
They pull up in 3 ranger trucks. 2 idle with their guns in their laps while the 3rd gets out in the heat and does the hassling. This is obviously BLM policy from on high because they do it year in and year out– it’s not the bad apple excuse. They have an amazing affinity for my friends M1 Garand. They really want it to not be legal but they just cant turn it into an “unregistered assault rifle” no matter how hard they try. Bolt actions like enfield/mauser/springfield/nagant they mutter over; acting all huffy at the same time. There’s something wrong about them but they cant quite put their fingers on it. The whole demeanor they show for their con is one of us right on the edge of getting our asses kicked or shot. They seem to thrive on creating extra tension for their “contact stop”. We will continue going there and breaking as many of their nonexistant laws as possible.
June 10th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Who here is really anti-government? Who here is anti-corruption? Anti treason? You get my point?
Lets call it like it is. We are the government. They are the traitors.
Alcohol, tobacco, and Firearms,
Who’s bringing the chips?
June 10th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
We need government but just one that represents the people.
June 10th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
If you want to consume too much why should it become a burden to those who do not.
June 10th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
If you can’t do an all out attack on guns…attack gun culture. It’s ridiculous the levels some will go to demonize an American tradition advocating self reliance and responsibility.
June 10th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
It’s not the machine it’s the guy runing it.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
while firing at ranges is good practice, might be time to save up on that soon-to-be much needed ammo.
Francis Marion Reply:
June 11th, 2009 at 1:15 am
Good point.
There’ll be plenty of big fat targets to aim at soon enough,
and you’re rewarded with a scream when you get a bullseye.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Obviously, people in ‘power’ are afraid of others even thinking about being armed (and able to practice shooting). The ultimate-goal of power-hungry creeps is to see that their slaves are disarmed–period. It has to be as a mind-set of the weak-people to not want to own firearms in the fisrt place…”Ohh, ohh, the government is always right, we should not argue with them at all–we should just do everything we are told to do by them and yes, give up our privately-owned firearms!” Hopefully, quite a few of us are not that pathetic! God bless all! Hold onto your guns!
June 10th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
350 plants? He must have been cutting into the Central Import Agency’s profits.
Caution Profanity Following: Caution Profanity Following: Alert: Alert:
What the f--- do we need the FBI for? Step into my office. You’re f---ing fired.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Get your piece ready, and there are plenty of airsoft or paintball ranges. I like the indoor ones because you can train in close quarter combat. you can transport your airsoft piece in you trunk and if you are pulled over, gotcha its not a real piece but the 3 hour training to take on the big boys was. Simply play the game and train and laugh about it.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
This is all you either worship satan or die thats all it is ,the fallen angels who seded these parisites thousands of years ago are coming back in the flesh it will look like an invasion but there not aliens this is real
June 10th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
Go to an Appleseed, learn to shoot well. You can practice with a 22 and save your heavy for later when you (will) need it. Its a crime what the people in the Senate and the House are doing. And you politicians should hang your head in shame for gutting the Founding Documents and selling the people of this country into bondage.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Well so you pulled my other comment explaining to the public their rights on the public domain. So you just lost a good sized donation to your money bomb. The Southern Oregon Mining Association is not a terrorist organization. If you cant help the people then maybe you are not what you claim to be, So moderator play your games. No matter how big you think you are, your still just a drop in the ocean.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:16 am
So, the FBI is afraid of Project Appleseed.
If used to be that the Federal Government trusted the people of this nation enough to encourage marksmanship and provide surplus rifles nearly free for the people to maintain arms in case they might ever be needed.
Anyone wonder why they are having a change of heart?
What do they have planned that they don’t want people practicing marksmanship?
June 11th, 2009 at 1:41 am
Hey Obama, when you have your people looking at all the posts here it gives you the advantage to move the chess pieces in your favor. I always agreed that all clandenstine ways of doing thing would be done underground and in total secrecy. Now you know the militias exist, groups that are trying to organize to throw down the government are speaking up but not doing a damn thing. You know that they are there with bullhorns wasting time at your decoy meetings, opinions are being made over this universe we call the internet. Easily you can track who these people are, you can easily discover from what terminal all these posts are coming from, you can easily have an idea what the mind of these americans think. You got it made….
June 11th, 2009 at 1:46 am
Wow, i know who you are now.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:55 am
4″ paper plates @ 20 meters!!! Who needs a range??? It’s a Family Affair!!! BTW…isn’t EVERY gun range that promotes the 2nd Anti-Govt. under the Auspices of what the 2nd Amendment means??? Really??? Some Thermal Expansion please!!! Much obliged!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
June 11th, 2009 at 4:07 am
Anti Government ? So what? Militia is fine ! We have the right to train and will continue!
Ameicasrepublicmilitia.net
We the people are allowed to train and organize and if they attempt to stop us then they are violating out rights ?
The FBI and DHS are on a witch hunt and they will fail because people will wake up and then what?
Come on agents people have rights and if you are seeking to defend and protect our rights and the American people you must wake up also and think about this facist s---?
You have to be kidding me ? Agents are Americans and why would they further the cause of a tyrannical governemnt to steal our libertys? Most people are anti government some way or another. I am not anti government I am for limited government and respect of our rights!
Stop the tyranny and remember your an American and do you want to live in a police state this is to the FBI ? DHS is unconstitutional and need to be dis banded! They do not do one thing for the people! They are the beginning and the end of freedom!
FREEDOM !
June 11th, 2009 at 7:14 am
SINCE WHEN HAS AMERICA EVER USED THE TERM *HOMELAND* … sounds like some f---ed up NAZI s--- to me… homeland…. I got your f---ing homeland bitches…
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June 14th, 2009 at 10:28 am
The account was suspended (as expected by GOOKLE)…
June 11th, 2009 at 9:21 am
“What country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.” — Thomas Jefferson
Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, we may never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion.
The right to revolt has sources deep in our history.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Believe it or not there is at least one government stooge at any shooting range you visit or belong to.
We (2ND Amendment supporters and firearm owners in general) will be vilified to no end and eventually become criminals just because we believe the way we do.
Our Freedom was not secured by our forebearers without great cost, keep this in mind seeing as how history has a way of repeating itself.
June 11th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Where the Government acquires the right to target certain militias (and other groups) is under this US Code: http://www.law.cornell.edu/usc.....-000-.html
They’ve written this law to become self-perpetuating. This law is contrary to the intent of our founding fathers.
June 11th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
It’s already ‘fascism’ and headed toward full blown communism. The sheeple and most ‘patriots’/conservatives/truthers/paulbots/whatever will be willing slaves because they are unwilling to do what is required.
Don’t understand? Start here:
http://willowtown.com/promo/quotes.htm
Think globally, fight locally. Aim small, miss small. One shot, one dead “Liberal”(communist/fascist).
June 11th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
i guess pot is as dangerous as guns .why is one not legal.guns kill people while pot saves lives and cures cancer.i see what side we are told. demonize everyone for the 4th reich
June 11th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Police need to have 17-round magazine Glock pistols to “feel good”–not because they can shoot well..Also, notice how German-made guns are standard-equipment with law-enforcement nowadays–wow! is this just my imagination? It is a shame how someone can go to a gun shop anywhere in our country and get asked alot of stupid questions just for wanting to purchase a single-shot rifle (or shotgun)! Yup, here is the future–how dare you want to arm yourself! Sorry to repeat myself folks, but hold onto your weopons!
June 12th, 2009 at 6:58 am
malitias arent all bad, the revolutionary war was fought heavily by malitias
June 13th, 2009 at 12:39 am
Attend an Appleseed training and see what is going on for yourself. We teach three things: 1) safe shooting, 2) accurate shooting, and 3) a little history about what happened on April 19, 1775. Oooooooooooo no wonder the Feds are scared…..
Find Appleseed info at appleseedinfo.org
June 13th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Hey fellow Gun Owners:
When they came for me and my pot you were ok with that – although I protested they’d come after you lot next. After you gun-owners they’re coming after the knife owners and after that then who…
Methinks we’re a bit late out the starting gate.
June 13th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
IF WE WERE TO MEASURE THE FBI WITH THE SAME STICK WE COULD SHUT IT DOWN FOR AN ETERNITY.
June 14th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
TO all who don’t believe the the homeland secruity meno is not real, WAKE-UP! its real …there are veterans who are locked up by the FBI right now! Mr Jones , please email me…And I will tell you all about it!!! To the American people they are taking our hero’s who keep us safe and locking them up, These are the best of the best sitting in a jail right now, who we need to protect us from the evil people who want to kill us..( navy seals, marines, army rangers Delta force) who need our help!!! Lets get them out!
June 15th, 2009 at 12:33 am
Ha the cant stop the militia movement never!