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Feds Declare Tennessee Gun Law Invalid
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July 18, 2009
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It is yet another example of the federal government running roughshod over the states.
Last month, the state of Tennessee’s General Assembly passed House Bill 1796, the “Tennessee Firearms Freedom Act,” which states that any firearms or ammunition manufactured within the state and legally owned and kept within the state by citizens are “not subject to federal law or federal regulation, including registration” due to provisions in the Second, Ninth, and Tenth Amendments to the United States Constitution.
But according to Assistant Director Carson W. Carroll of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, the U.S. Constitution is little more than a g.d. piece of paper, as George W. Bush so infamously deemed it during his reign as the decider-in-chief.
On July 16, Carroll dispatched his agency’s official response to the law passed in Tennessee — the BATFE asserts that “Federal law supersedes the Act, and all provisions of the Gun Control Act and the National Firearms Act, and their corresponding regulations, continue to apply.”
It will be interesting to see how Tennessee reacts to this official proclamation.
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July 18th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
BATFE has no authority to interpret the constitutional legality of a state law. I knew the supreme court would get invloved and claim that authority, but BATFE? Who the hell do they think they are?
Luke Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
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Share news, survival tips, alerts, and make local and regional contacts in the northeast. Firearm enthusiasts are welcome. Just follow the link.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vtfreedomcampaign
bob b Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Republic of Tennessee > FEDS
We need to start taking laws off the books, dismantle the “FEDS” power from within.
Tenessee Williams Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Secession is called for. Form our own damn union.
MAD DOG Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
THE US CONSTITUTION COALILITION
LETS FORM OUR OWN UNION/PARTY
AND JUST TURN OUR BACKS ON THEM.
ONLY MEMBERS GET OUR VOTES OR SUPPORT.
IF YOUR NOT WITH US , A SWORN MEMBER DEVOTED TO THE CONSTITUTION, THEN YOUR AGAINST US.
George [Costanza] Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Not really, the 50 states will stay together.
We will just push the district of criminals into the Atlantic.
josh Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
TENNESSEE FFL HOLDERS, trash your FFL AND ENJOY THE FREEDOM OF LIVING IN A SOVEREIGN STATE!!!
YOUR STATE POLICE AND SHERIFFS DEPARTMENT IS OBLIGATED TO PROTECT YOU FROM FEDERAL INTRUSION!
LONG LIVE TENNESSEE
Max Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:08 am
You got that right. All the states should succeed then establish the New World Disorder with 500 separate nations worldwide with no treaties.
Tex Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 4:32 am
Out of respect for the Tennessee Volunteers who gave their lives to the Texas Revolution and died at the Alamo, I pledge my sword and will stand with you.
JRW Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
I hope Yall Tennesseans don’t plan on having a revolution without Texas.
Free Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
Excellent. I stand with you Tex. Remember the Alamo!
Write to your “representatives” in the senate and congress. Demand a resignation from one who so fragrantly supports tyranny over the rule of law.
Read Jurisprudence, 16th edition, section 256.
Grimriffer Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Dear Tennessee,
Missouri stands with you, musket in hand!
general Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 1:16 am
I guess the BATFE put the smackdown on the tennessee legislature by saying they will still attack the great men of tennessee if they feel like it. The “bureau” has much higher authority and superior fire power.
We have no legislature now only the private bankers looting us. In history the tennessee long gun was respected but not anymore. If tennesseeans misbehave then the drones (that we also can’t own but we pay for) will need to be sent in. Tennessee (if serious about the new law) would have to form a protective army (minute men) to stop the feds from enforcing against the fine citizenry who declared their freedom from the BATFE…and they are way too cowardly for that. Besides the states have been disarmed too. It is silly to limit free weapon manufacture to an area such as a state. In order for the law to have teeth they would have to just say the second ammendment means what it says and kick the NWO owned BATFE out of tennessee and not alow them to operate in the state. So go back to sleep this is just more cowardly B.S. brought to you by your elected officials who are fully owned by the NWO.
Rockstar Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 3:09 am
Count me in & all of normal Oregon. Other than freakin gay and dyke towns of Portland and Eugene…
gregkdc Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Your State can’t leave the union without having its own monetary policy and currency. First we have to break the monopoly that the Fed have on this country. I guarantee that if a state actually did become sovereign the fist attack on that state would be some form of currency embargo or manipulation.
censored31 Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Can someone prove me or help me that this certificate has been forged???
It’s the so called birth certificate of Obama:
http://www.factcheck.org/Uploa.....cate_3.jpg
steve Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
World Net Daily has done a lot of research into this. Its clearly faked. They even acquired another birth certificate from the same year and they look nothing alike. Here’s the link:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?f.....eId=103810
Go about 2/3 down the article, you’ll see comparisons of authentic vs the faked birth certificate.
bob b Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
READ IT!!!! It says “certificate of Live Birth” Whether it is real or forged it isn’t a birth certificate. A BIRTH CERTIFICATE has more info. than this, such as — what hospital the chil was born in ? —- the name of the dr. who delivered the baby? People should protest to get this investigated by a neutral organization. The highest office in America and you don’t have to prove you are qualified for the position? Just show the birth certificate obama and your problems are over. If he can get away with not showing it he proves that Americans are the biggest bunch of assholes on the planet. Last week Major Stefan Cook refused to be deployed to the middle east because he couldn’t prove obama was legitimatey commander in chief. It was supposed to go to court last thursday — lo and behold on wednesday the order to deploy was revoked!!! Nobody has the balls to cover this story –not Hannity, not Beck and NOT even alex jones. Personally I think it either means they are all NWO shills or are ball less or are getting great amounts of pressure to shut up about it!!!
mud Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
more idiocy from the far-right.
MoniQue Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
See Obama’s forged certification photoshop forgery for yourself here:
http://moniquemonicat.wordpres.....rtificate/
It’s not a small matter of him not providing a real US birth certificate when asked by the American people, it’s that HE DOESN’T HAVE ONE TO BEGiN WITH because he was BORN IN KENYA.
Every bill Obama signs and every THING he DOES acting as president is iLLEGAL. And pretty much means if we let this go on we are breaking the law right along with him.
CONSTITUTIONAL CRISES.
Kevin Black Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
This Birth Certificate looks hot off the printer to me and not official looking at all like mine.
Ask Obama’s grand mother what she thinks kuz she is sure he was born in Kenya Africa.
My guess is she would know.
Rather odd she get no media coverage… If GWB had a living grand mother we would have had her burned in to our eye balls by the media.
Common since tells me it’s a phony.
oldschool Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Just the fact that one line has been blacked out makes it an altered document.
John Henke Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Looks to knocked out by a computer that didn’t even exist in 1961.
America has no president, and no government either, come to think of it.
LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!
Max Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:12 am
Fake, it is over a year too late to accept. It may as well say Kinkos on it.
Amazed Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Obama’s alien overlords went back in time to produce the certificate at the same time they put the notification of his birth in the local newspapers. It is all part of their master plan to legalize gay marriage which will lead to the breakdown of the traditional Christian family. When Church attendance drops sufficiently they will release their ally Satan and finally achive their aim of eating the human race.
Patriot-X Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
I live in OBAMAville near chicago Illinois, and I can tell you right now that if you live in chicago your an obama supporter, but the rest of us here in Illinois are tired of these FEDERAL MOTHERf---ERS PISSIN ON OUR GOD GIVEN RIGHTS. HEY BATF, you NAZI bastards, KILL YOURSELVES AND DO US ALL A FAVOR. TENNESSEE and TEXAS, ILLINOIS is with you!!!!!!!!!!! And this DICKHEAD Carson Carroll saying the most sacred of all documents is nothing more than a GODDAMN PIECE OF PAPER: Let me tell you something Mr.Carroll there are MILLIONS of us who would disagree with you and would gladly give our LIVES for that piece of paper. We out man you and we out gun you, PRAY it never comes a knockin on your front door.
the one Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
fake…… these types of documents are usually registed the day after or 2 to 3 days after birth and its not a birth certificate its a live birth certificate there is a differance.
birgit Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 8:04 am
FACTCHECK is a creation by a rich bi*** Obama supporter, forgot which one.
When you are born OVERSEAS, the corresponding embassy issues a certificate of registration of live birth, they do not issue BC..they cannot..only the registration of life birth.
jayce Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Wasn’t Obama trying to amend the Constitution to allow himself to remain in office for life????
shut up and fight Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
laws? wtf laws mean anyways. if those who make them passes don’t have to fallow them.
f--- this s--- hole. revolution….nah. rebellion…mmm …all out war against the govt and bankers? yeah but nah.
all out war agaisnt evil and cooruption and liars and hypocrisy… HELL YEAH.
censored31 Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:02 am
Thx for your collaboration in real journalism of the people
FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND FREEDOM OF PRESS
billybones51 Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
I forgot who I what I was replying to but the sad truth is oboma is just an agent to a much more centralized and evil power structure. Everyone knows there foaming at the mouth to get the nazi loving arnold in there.These same assholes were probably cumming in their pants watching the secret satelite feeds on 9/11. There gonna do what they have been incrementally doing to us for a long time ( f*cking us) and theyre not going to let a piece of paper stop them. Whether its a birth certificate or the U.S. constitution. The American people for the most part dont give a s---. I stand out on streetcorners in Vegas w/ a microphone trying to wake these idiots up. They used to laugh at me & call me a “conspiracy nut” But now there is less laughing and more ignoring. Because they know. You cant help but to know something is very,very wrong. Im tired of being Mr. Nice guy too. Now when they ignore me and talk almongst themselves , I tell them they are cowards.That they are aiding tyranny. That their cowardice is condemning their own children to slavery. I wish I didnt have to be so honest and blunt but until these morons find out theres no cable in F.E.M.A. camps they dont seem to give a s---.
Patriot-er Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 4:27 am
Wow, so passionately spoken.
Unusual.
Got Spark or Fade?
max Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 7:18 am
Here, Here. I second that motion. All in favor say “I”, all oppposed say “Nay”…
censored31 Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
EXCLUSIVE VIDEO OF A US SOLDIER CAPTURED IN AFHGANISTAN AND UNCENSORED
http://censored31.skynetblogs.be/
John-in-Florida Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Count on us ol’ Boys here in Florida too!
chris Reply:
July 26th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
We have guns in colorado too. I personally see no other alternative but to take our country back by force!!!!!
Anthony Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Agreed.
AbuBakerSmith Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Here is the TRUTH of the situation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5I6ho0Qjco
Jason Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Tennessee needs to kick the BATF out of their State. If they refuse to leave, I’m sure there are enough citizens, more than willing to be Deputized to help them move.
Geoph Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
OK, let me see if I have this straight.
It is fine and dandy for a state to BAN firearms,
but don’t you dare try to make it OK for law abiding folks to own them.
That is what I get from this CRAP.
f--- the fed!!!
ME.
operation_b Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
FOR SURE!!!!! Kalifornia can ban away at anything they want, but Tennessee can’t have a REVERSE ban!!!! How dare they!!!
End the FEDS and their alphabet gangs!!
Tenessee Williams Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Revolt now.
Patriot07 Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
Assistant Director Carson W. Carroll of the BATFE claims he has the “authority” as a bureaucrat to invalidate TN state law however neither he nor anyone else can authenticate Barak Obama’s original birth certificate. Which is more important? If Barry Sotero a.k.a. Barak Obama is not a natural born citizen then every law he signs as well as all of his executive decsisons are illegal. Perhaps state officals in TN should point this out to Mr. Carroll.
And for the record: World Net Daily (wnd.com) has documented that virtually all of Obama’s records have been hidden from public view including all his college and grad school records as well as his passport.
Luke 22 Thirty Six Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
…he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
Reverend Josh Taylor Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
“He who lives by the sword shall perish by the sword”.
Noogie Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 4:41 am
That’s a very good point, Geoph; the disparities are striking. As a Tennessean, I hope my state will fight this arbitrary and ridiculous BATF abuse of power.
Zinbanski Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Now they have an official reason to call forth the militia itself. Every state does have the lawful right to enact the freedom of firearms act that does supercede the federal authority. Why because it follows the US constitution which is higher than their authority. It is BATF that is acting unlawfully here. Tennessee now has a real reason to call forth the militia as in the constitution to kick them out There would be nothing unlawful about that even though the feds would claim it so.
John Henke Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
That’s right!
Throw out the fed bastards!
REVOLUTION! One state at a time!
Amazed Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Please call out the Tennessee “Militia” to fight the Feds…make sure all of the “Conservatives” are in one place…easier to take them all out at once…Almost a shame to see all of that cheap beer get blown up at once
Josh F Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
wow.. your lack of insight never ceases to amaze me. No wonder you’re “amazed”.
EU-Lex Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
I know it’s not that kinda article but if you are interested in vaccines than watch this, t tells you what to do if U R forced to be vaccinated.
http://video.google.de/videopl.....&dur=3
MAD DOG Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
IF THE FIRE ARMS ARE NOT INVOLVED IN COMMERCE THAT CROSSES STATE LINES, THE FED HAS NO JURISDICTION.
STATES RIGHTS
SCREW THE FED. VE VA LE REVOLUTION.
YOUR MOM Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
VE VA LE RESISTANCE !!!! FOREVER AND EVER.
danomatic Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
The courts are notorious for twisting the state line stipulation: a farmer was charged for growing his own grain for his own consumption because…wait for it…it interfered with interstate trade. Why? Because he MIGHT have otherwise bought from out-of-state had he not grown it. Mises or lewrockwell had it in an interview/speech in passing.
Zinbanski Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
It does not matter what laws they pass or the way they pass them. For some reason they are always interpreted against the people no matter how they are worded in actuality. Funny how that is.
Landscape Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 1:04 am
You know who else said you can’t grow your own grain? The USSR!!
EkO Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Should you being saying resistance in English? Considering we’re talking about America? lol
RESIST THE GOVERNMENT.
shut up and fight Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
dude revolution is for wuss.
REBELLION. millitary rebelion. sometimes the only way to make a + is to add another – after a curent -. – - = +
John Henke Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Good news. The military is beginning to rebel against the impostor Bongo.
The only thing the feds understand is, dead fed.
Power to the people of Tennessee!
jayce Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Sounds good, got a link?
Lefick Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Looks like a good Supreme Court case to me, and we’ll see how Sotomir votes on the 2nd amendment….
George [Costanza] Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
No, if Tennessee’s law was unlawful or unconstitutional, then the BATFE would be in the right.
But seeing as Tennessee is operating in the right, the BATFE can go fly a kite.
NO to Vaccines Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 2:47 am
Everything illegal alien Obama does is illegitimate including judical appointments!
ssf467 Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
The jack booted thugs at your back door….
Mike L. Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
… reason why there is a little “suprise” waiting for everyone who attemps to kick my back door open.
Michael Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
What the tennesee government should do is tell the state police officers should the BATFE or any other federal agency intend to arrest someone while lawfully obeying the tennesee laws have the state police escort the BATFE to the state border, by gunpoint if need be.
1776 Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Then be ready to defend the state border by gunpoint if need be…..
John Henke Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Arrest the feds and prosecute them as the criminals that they are!
jimshores Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
The feds use laws when it is in their interest, they quote the Constitution when they seek power. They use the fact that the Constitution was suspended and we are under martial rule when they act with tyrannical oppression and claim the Constitution no longer exists. If it has been suspended, let us put it back into effect immediately. They do not want this, as they think they are now dictators. Ron Paul knows this and can do something about it. We need to fight the Federal Reserve and bring back the foundational law simultaneously. This is the only course we should concentrate on now. All our other problems will fade when we are victorious.
Beau Deters Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
This is a great comment and dead on.
The fed makes statutes contrary to the US Constitution and then points to either the US Constitution or statutes that best forward its goals.
I hope people understand that when 2 “Sovereign” entities conflict and the only reconciliation if the other bowing out, the use of force is the only resort to settle the dispute. Citizens of the remaining 49 states will not stand by and watch the fed run rough shod over Tennessee and this may well prove to be the feds undoing.
jayce Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Second!
reason Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
revolt anyone? i like my revolt in the 1776 vintage it has a crisp taste with a dark musket color hue on the back end.
shut up and fight Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
im in. we dont need all out artilry. we just need some hand guns and crowbars. kill a few cops. take their ammo and weapons. on the feild you will have plenty of ammo.
but on the other hand arn’t we are the one making weapons? for the coorporations and thus govt millitary.
i lost a job in machinery because i found out that i had to sign govt documents at one point.
telling that i was concient i was machining metal pieces that would go on hand guns.
i just told my boss i am not going to participate in this crap. im not willing to offer me my services to make metal pieces that will be used to kill other oppressed country or even ourself.
i got fired on pretex of not whanting to comply to orders. i just look at my employer and just send him a dark evil face. telling him. you will pay for your crimes. fate will make you pay.
Jerry Mark Brinkman, Terre Haute, IN Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
SU&F,
Do you have a spell check on your computer? Your English spelling is horrid and really needs to be cleaned up so we can read what you are trying to express with your thoughts.
I am not criticizing your writing, just asking you to clean it up to the point it can be read.
Thanks.
joshbot Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:40 am
You are breaking the message board rules linked above that everyone agrees to by default by posting here. Alex Jones and the Patriots here at Infowars don’t endorse, appreciate or allow violence. If you call for violence and are not arrested your a fed looking to make this website look bad. Thanks a lot Troll.
Stares ad Judicio Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
The point, though, l1b3r7y, is that the federal requirements for gun ownership are “unconstitutional” and that, therefore the 10th amendment applies. The final say on that is up to a Supreme Court Ruling and not up to the State of Tennessee, You, Me, My Mother or My Mother-in-Law or my cousins wife’s sister’s husband, neither.
If you want to, you can defy all in favor of vigilantism, but if you ask me, which you have not, I would say: “wait and see”, but “keep your powder dry”
Patriot07 Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
The Supreme Court has been wrong in the past and there’s precious little reason to think that the current members respect the Constitution. The TN case is a no-brainer for THOSE OF USE WHO SIMPLY UNDERSTAND AND ACCEPT THE CONSTITUTION AT FACE VALUE FOR WHAT IT IS, I.E., THE HIGHEST LAW OF THE USA.
Corey Cole Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
The constitution says we have the right to keep and bear arms to protect us from enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC.
Anihilus Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh1wmPQA0QA
plainolamerican Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
The Constitution party is the answer.
Sept 25 Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Revolution
Luke 2009 Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
he that hath no gun, let him sell his television, and buy one.
Eric Conaway Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 2:13 am
Right on!
Everyone capable and responsible enough should get a firearm. Who decides this? Well, if you are 18 and you do. Be honest with yourself. However, I believe that most people have enough self-control and fear of the consequences to be trusted with one. If you are under 18 your parents or guardian has the final say.
We need to look around us and always be conscious of what could be used as a weapon.
vaksal Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
we need a third party since the other two partys are totaly controlled by isreals agents here,if a party was founded it should have as a rule anyone taking any moneys,bribes,gifts from any lobbyist would lose his office and membership in the pary,and if in office be charged with corruption if proven ,even in office ,jailed the day proven,if proven that a foriegn government or an agent,or a person working for a said government , that person in office should be tryed and serve in less than life behind bars with hard labor, and no parole,that would make any power hungry person that thinks thinks they could enter a new party and corupt it too think twice about running for office,just a thought , god knows that for the last 25yrs or votes have added up to nothing since the government sold out the american people and the CONSTITUTION OF THIS ONCE GREAT REPUBLIC, AND HAVE SET UP A POLICE STATE,PLAINOAMERICAN YOU ARE RIGHT ON THE MONEY.
Ssg Rhino Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
The solution is simple. It the batboys act on any firearm made in the state, they will be pepper sprayed, tasered, arrested and incarcerated for however long it takes until their execution in a state prison
many names Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
The B.A.T.F.E. is a criminal government organization.
They murder people they steal property, and when they get caught they scream about
molested children.
Ssg Rhino Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 1:38 am
B. Bureau (of)
A. Another
T. Terrorist
F. Federal
E. Enterprise
rik thomas Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
folks, if i go to these stories on infowars i never cease to be provoked and incensed.
but i tell you as best as i can understand…, my gut is termianlly outraged, but we have to stay cool.
we have to keep our powder dry. we have to keep going like alex does -in his “sane” moments.
somewhere, we have to pull the will for the long, subtle and strong fight. this is a guerilla fight and the guerilla fight is often lonely, subtle and hard. but we are americans and we will do our great forefathers proud. whatever america could be and could have been, we will be it. let the rest of the world see the greatness of our forefathers again. they made america great in spirit.
be strong, take our faith in the great jesus -not the fake one sold in church-i will be happy in eternity if i can live up to the legacy we have been given.
be strong, patient, act and remember all we have been given. god bless.
TheGhost Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 4:55 am
SANITY!!!!!1
der Weinersnitzel Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Waco, Rules of Engagement tell us who they are.
http://video.google.com/videop.....6377572665
good time to see this again…
Battle Hymn Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
What an excellent reminder that those who enforce the law do not abide the law. Be prepared.
9/25
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 2:35 am
Earlier!
James M Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:50 am
This country will be a far better place when we rely on our own friends and our own people in our own communities to decide our own fates for ourselves, when we decide how to spend our own money to decide what we build, where to build it and how to raise the money for it, when we decide our own degree of what we teach our children in school and where and when we build schools for our kids, when we decide we do not want homeland security because it is a waste of money and does absolutely nothing but burden us with a new government bulls--- cost that we do not want to pay and threaten our liberties, we pay to be subjects of the FED?????? When we decide that the agenda of a wealthy minority does not constitute the agenda of America. When the rest of the world stops looking at us a the Evil Empire. When we decide to stop the destruction of ourselves if not for anything but for the future of our children and theirs. Balance of power, learned in the third grade shows us the rationale of history. History is to be learned from, not repeated endlessly with massive ammounts of death and suffering. Someday it may be us suffering and dying and no one will lend a hand to the imperialist Amerikans, they will laugh at are audasity while we starve and we will deserve it.
Patriot-er Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 4:06 am
The banksters/illuminati formed the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms to look after ‘their’ interests not that of the ‘people’…..sorry folks but you appear to have been misinformed …..along the way ….as ants…among a wedjab.
The same folks that coined the name “Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms to place fear the common folk of taking away what they see as ‘essential’ items (2 are addictive for reason).
So if one sees a problem from here forward, we should correct it. This appears to be the next modus operande. The legend of Caral speaks volumes about how people used to live for thousands of years with archeolicigal proofs to pave their claim.
freedom fighter Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Don’t worry the N.R.A. is taking Chicago’s gun ban to the supreme court this fall. Just in time for justice Sotomayor to have a say in it. Don’t worry she has friends that hunt
hunter Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 11:29 am
they think they are god , well just a little god but they still think they are god
Laughing At You Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
What a bunch of idiots you all are. Stupid as the day is long.
Josh F Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
… worth a comment?
not really.
Constantine Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Personally, I don’t care what an unconstitutional law says because I simply will not abide by it. Period. End of story. So basically anything that Feds do in terms of gun laws/gun control is pointless. They’re wasting their time. 99% of people who have sense enough to have a firearm in the first place understand and exercise their God-given rights and won’t allow the king’s men to take it. If the Feds start down this path it will only lead to countless dead local law enforcement, FBI, and ATF agents They’ll run out of people in a hurry and they won’t have any new applicants for the jobs. It’ll be 100-1000 times more hazardous than Fallujah if they start gun confiscation in America.
kw Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
HA! We the people once again direct the states to issue the proclamation that most fed laws are unconstitutional, invalid and unenforceable. The states have the full support of the citizenry, aka the militia.
JM Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Together we stand. Stop the FED GOVT! Don’t Tread on ME!
July 18th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
F**k you Feds!
Prescott Steve Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Letter is not valid. It was signed by someone other than Carson Carroll who supposidly wrote it. That makes the content NULL AND VOID….PERIOD!
Slapster Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
After closer examination of the letter you are correct. It was signed by someone else. The cursive used does not even come close to the name that is printed.
July 18th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Those Tennessee hillbilly’s aren’t really the kind of people you want to f--- with.
1776 Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Same thing with Missouri hillbilly’s.
showmebby Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Hell ya!!!!!!! Cocked locked , and ready to rock
TennWalt Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
We Tennesseans dont pay much mind to what the feds say, never have….never will! “Men trained in arms from their infancy, and animated by the love of liberty, will afford neither a cheap or easy conquest.”
– From the Declaration of the Continental Congress (July 1775)
oldnamvet Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
If I remember right didnt a boys from KY and Tenn go out shooten at the ALAMO.Feds your f---en with the wrong boys.I am not from Tenn but Ohio and now Fla.As a yank till age 50,I always loved what the boys from Tenn and Ky did for America.You think the arabs in afgan in the mountains are tough,you better think about the boys in mountains in Tenn and Ky.They invented the word BADASS S.
G spot Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
I have lived here in the hills of Tennessee all of my life. I come from a long line of really good moonshiners. Four generations of my kin ran the stuff all over the south. We payed no mind to the revenuers back then, and really don’t now either. Some of the best revenuers of their time are buried in these hills. We’ll be alright. We know what it is to stick together and fight for a cause.
oldnamvet Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
That reminds of a great old movie THUNDER ROAD WITH ROBERT MITCHEM,GREAT MOVIE
YOUR MOM Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
AMEN TO THAT BROTHER
Craven LeVay Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Yes I am from Missouri and though I am not a so called hillbilly they will have a problem with the whole south if they think they are going to walk in and take our guns. They can have our ammunition after it is spent on their traitor asses.
rik thomas Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
never thought i would advocate for guns or southerners….
it’s a long learning process. you mite even accept some of us woken up northeners.
me, i was born in saint louis. confluence of missouri and missisippi rivers. we were the last supply stop for folks moving west.
i’m proud of saint louis and what it represented at it’s best. i was taught to be friendly and hospitable. we made our living working with strangers coming thru. so the mid-west had that openess and hospitality.
missouri is also the “show-me” state. stood me in good stead when folks started talking about 911. they done showed me. i say, “if it walks like a duck, has feathers like a duck….etc.”
that’s my addition to the missouri motto. god bless.
showmebby Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 3:32 am
Accually St Louis was “the gate way to the west”. The last stop was in Kansas City at the Missouri river. Big cattle town. Im from columbia. Right in the middle. Good to see another Missourian awake . These days I live in Texas. Great people just like Mo.
—FREE HUMANITY—
Granny Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Don’t even think about messing with us “Texas Rednecks” either! We really like our little guns
many names Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
That’s damn strait.
I grew up in Missouri, The fed’s panic when they lose someone in those woods.
CO R3VO Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:00 am
Don’t forget the Colorado hillbillies… We’re watching closely and we know this terrain better than any of our overlords or their minions… Fact is, they don’t stand a chance.
Not a chance.
Nate Janowicz Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Excercise Your Rights. Declare Independence at:
http://www.natejanowicz.com
kathy Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Maybe Carson Carroll needs to come here to Tennessee and stand before an audience of Tennesseans and tell them his proclamation out loud!! hehehe
rik thomas Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
habeus corpus….
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 2:40 am
More like Corpus Delecti!!!!!!!!!!!
Will Not BE Programed Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 7:31 am
HAS BEEN REVOKED BY THE PATRIOT ACT!
Constitutionally recognized, naturally borne, unalienable rights..... Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 11:02 am
That which cannot be given[unalienable] cannot be taken.
~We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
"Redneck" Lady Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Or us Allegheny Mountain hillbillies either!
so cal navy Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
I hope you guys know that almost half of the nations guns are made there…
BUBBA, FORCE OF 1 Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
RUN TO THE HILLS!
From the GREAT PATRON STATE OF SHOOTIN s---!
jimshores Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Texans got help from Tennessee at the Alamo. After we do something about the Texas government, we will go to another great state and help them. So let us make quick work of SLICK RICK THE PRICK, and head to Tennessee. Like tomorrow.
Josh F Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Amen to that. I’m from Texas and used to live in TN. If any thing was to go down in that state, I’d definitely volunteer for this. We have the Right to Bear Maintain Arms for this exact reason. If the government doesn’t take us seriously and start listening to it’s citizens we have the need to revolt. It freaking states that in a way IN the Declaration of Independence. So… my question is… why has it taken so long for people to start saying no? Lack of a community? There are multiple websites dedicated to these exact issues. So, why don’t we form our own union and start checking our government? Because, if “We the People” are not happy, then we deserve to change things. That’s what our forefathers fought for… that’s what we have to fight for again.
Let the come for us.. and we will greet them with our second amendment rights to the face. We will not be imprisoned. We will not be tossed aside. We will stand up.
Violence of course should be a last resort, but that will end up being the resort if they don’t start taking the public seriously. If you don’t think that they ignore us, look at this stupid bailout that we went through. What was the statistic if anyone has it? I think it was like 68% of the American population was against the bailout, yet our government did it anyway? Hellooooo people? Wake up call!
The bottom line is, the Federal government has no part in the affairs of state legislation, businesses, or handing money to city and state police and education departments.
Here’s something that Alex Jones should really cover. I live in Tx and in Taylor the “Homeland Security” gave that city like 100,000 or something in funding for… what reason? Because of the FEMA establishment there? They even have to have city ID cards or something now. It’s getting ridiculous.
Sorry this got kinda short but I have to go. This is a very interesting topic however and I’m interested to see where it goes.
Son of the South Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Actually, the states South of the Mason Dixon line west to the Rockies. Sorry New Mexico that leaves you out. Ya’lls political influence was shown with your Governor Richardson.
TheGhost Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 5:42 am
WOW!! I DONT BELIEVE WHAT THE f--- I JUST HEARD!? youre actually going to condescend to the entire state of new mexico and not back us up because people voted for richardson?! WHERE THE f--- DO YOU GET OFF DUDE?! youre gonna sit there like youre somebody special like your state never voted in a f---ed up politician? son of the south, you better wise the f--- up about what youre fighting for, cuz if all youre after is rebirth of the confederacy and f--- the rest of us you aint a f---in patriot.. and dont knock me about new mexico fighting for union either, half my family is southern, the other half is NY, and both shed blood for this country homeboy
Son of the Southe Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
To the Ghost: WHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!1
There are currently 45 Democrats and 25 Republicans in the New Mexico House of Representatives, and there are currently 27 Democrats and 15 Republicans in the Senate of New Mexico. It doesn’t seem to me that it was just Bill Richardson that I was talking about. You have problems there with the peoples sensibility in protecting all of our way of life. Your Southern border is open and nobody has stepped up in your state to stop the wave of illegal immigrants coming over the border. This isn’t a Federal issue this is a state issue. One that should be responded to by the people of the Great State of New Mexico. The citizens need to be informed. I will back anyone over the gun issue, but first you as citizens of New Mexico have to help yourself and get the liberals out. Good luck on that one with all of the greenie weenies that live there. We live on this planet not for ourselves, but to pass it on down to the next generation.
Also you know nothing of me or my family who have been on this Continent since 1640 and also fought in all of the conflicts of the United States as well as both sides of the American Civil War. I have no desire for a rebirth of the former Confederacy. I call my self Son of the South as that is where I was born. Therefore sir you are a f---ING IDIOT!
Mike Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Or Alaska sourdough’s. We’re fortunate enough to be able to carry without permit and every now and then a few thousand of us here in fairbank’s have an “open carry day”.
paradox Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
And don’t think for one second, us from the Tar Heel state wont come to help push the Federal invaders out. Especially us cRaZY hillbillies from Western NC.
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 2:36 am
When you mess with ONE Hillbilly, you mess with them ALL!
July 18th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Drop dead Feds!!!
rik thomas Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
they are going to need to be helped along. i am so tired of this.
anyone that works for the feds today carrying arms and doing their dirty work…
you KNOW they are the dregs. they have had long enuf to get out of the work.
so, as the times come, there can be no hesitation. enuf is enuf.
if you are a mercenary working for the british…
this should be a VERY hostile land. we need to move to the next level.
July 18th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Hey feds – go F@#$ yourselves! You don’t have the constitutional authority to say whos law supercedes whos. BTW> The STATES can OVERULE the Fed – so stick that in your gun barrel and smoke it!
July 18th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Obey your master.
jimshores Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Crito, I do, his name is Jesus. Who or what is yours?
Geoph Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
I AM MT OWN MASTER.
We don’t need a govt or anybody else lording over us.
ME.
Crito Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Why would I want to be a Nazi authoritarian like them? That make no sense at all.
Crito Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
I serve no master. I’m not your, or anyone else’s, slave boy.
July 18th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
What kind of idiot groups tobacco and explosives under the same administration, or guns and alcohol under the same administration, to begin with?
Pack a gun and pay no tax.
rik thomas Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
pay no tax. pack a gun. be smart. communicate with your neighbors.
give up your credit card. maybe we should have “card burnings.”
July 18th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Спасибо! Буду теперь заходить на этот блог каждый день!
jimshores Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Hell,Another useless post? Stop wasting electricity.
Guy Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Hellgga says:
Thanks! Now I’m going to the site every day!
HanksExfed Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Ukranian says: [Thank you! I will now go on this blog every day]
American says; Dont be a f---ing troll.
July 18th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Мне кажется или автор что-то недоговаривает
ArabObama Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
whatever she said!!!!!
BUBBA, FORCE OF 1 Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
YEA! AND BITE ME!
nippets Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
я также хотел бы знать, как агенты ФБР и BATF собираются обращаться с законом оружия Штата Монтана, это является очень подобным, если не то же самое.
Google translate Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Ummm.. yea, the feds have google translate just like everyone else in the world and even if they didn’t.. they got peeps that speak Russian. Youre welcome
YOUR MOM Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
get outta here commie !
July 18th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Yeah, and we just passed TN H.R. 0108 which is our state sovereignty bill…
We’ll see who gets the last word in this battle.
MAD DOG Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
SOUTH CAROLINA HAS YOUR BACK ON THIS.
WE’LL STAND WITH YA.
July 18th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
keep pushing assholes and then do something dumb like what happened at Kent State University and you will have a real mess on your hands….i know your masters want that but you and i don’t….come on think man!
Steve in Texas Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
The PROTESTERS who were GUNNED DOWN at Kent State were COMMIES, who DESERVED to die!
stavetheslave Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
No, they didn’t deserve to be gunned down at all. I know people who were at kent State then (and I’m from that area) and they weren’t commies. I don’t know if you’re just being a dick but you should shut the fck up if at all possible.
Even if some of them were “commies”, WTF do you know about it? All you know is everything that you’ve been ALLOWED to learn which obviously isn’t much. You know how to draw a Turkey by tracing your hand and how to make a s---ty ash tray and 1+1=2 and the colors of the rainbow and how to mutilate a frog and how the settlers invited the indians to have a meal with them before they slaughtered the hell out of them (cept they left that last part out). That’s all you know. Oh.. and maybe you can say thank you in Spanish (which will come in real handy soon).
jeffohio Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
I too am from Ohio, and remember it well. Maybe the lesson not taught at Kent St. was,,,,,, Don’t screw with someone who has a gun, especially if it is pointed at YOU, and THEY are surrounded in a defensive position. Oh, and don’t through rocks at them either. The libs tried to throw Rhoads(the Gov) in jail for years over this. My world lit teacher(a big lib) would do a bi-weekly rant in class for half a year while this was winding through the courts. Oh, it is called Kent “STATE” therefore the gov. DID have the authority to maintain order their! It was not private property. my rant is finished.
Crito Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Moral of story: violence is the only thing the authorities understand.
rik thomas Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
jeffohio
nice little vignette and lesson., thanks.
Corey Cole Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
The Kent State shootings, also known as the May 4 massacre or Kent State massacre,[ occurred at Kent State University in the city of Kent, Ohio, and involved the shooting of unarmed college students by members of the Ohio National Guard on Monday, May 4, 1970. The guardsmen fired 67 rounds over a period of 13 seconds, killing four students and wounding nine others, one of whom suffered permanent paralysis.
Yeah those Gaurdsmen sound really fckn tough, im glad that Stewart Rhodes has started a program called OATH KEEPERS. everyone should check it out. this is the kind of thing that makes me PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!!!
MAD DOG Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
THEY WERE TREE HUGGERS.
I WAS THERE IN MAY 4 ,74.
IT WAS ALL OVER SAVING TREES UP ON A HILL TOP WHERE THEY WANTED TO BUILD A GYM.
FUNNY THING IS, THE GYM IS CLOSED NOW, NO-ONE USES IT.
jeffohio Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
You mean 1970, don’t you?
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 2:50 am
Imagine that!
robin of locksley Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 9:18 am
most of the kids killed or injured on may 4 1970 were innocent bystanders
July 18th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
The Nazis rule AmeriKKKa – the state nazis and federal nazis!
Crito Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
Corporatism is fascism.
Mussolini said so himself and he’s an expert on the subject.
July 18th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
REMEMBER WACO!
TIMOTHY McVEY was a TRUE AMERICAN HERO!
The time has COME to start TAKING OUT members of Congress!
THEY “FEAR” The Lone Wolf!
marv ericson Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
timothy mcviegh was a dumb f--- and so are you
showmebby Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
LMFAO
Corey Cole Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Im from Oklahoma and what he did was not good for our country, in fact, after the bombing they had an excues to pass the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996 wich had a huge impact on Habeas corpus making it almost impossible for Federal courts to fix unjust convictions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.....ct_of_1996
Seal Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
He was set-up! Don’t you read listen here on Infowars? Look back at periodicals on McVey. He was (another) Patsy!
Seal Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
perhaps there is some truth here and or there, but sadly you are speaking of an early this century mass murder! have some humanity about you there eh Mary Ericson, how about Brun Hilda???Ever heard of her? Please use more appropriate language here. Some of us are working on ourselves…
R.I.P oh falsely accused; once again ‘government’ has killed more than one!More than once!
Son of the South Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
McVey was a hero? That son of a bitch killed children in a building’s day care. If that’s your hero hold my target down range at 500 meters.
Crito Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Israelis killed over 200 kids in Gaza this year, with weapons the US government supplied. I believe we called it “collateral damage”.
joshbot Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Steve, people who call for violence on these message boards are either
A. Morons who Alex has said should be prosecuted or,
B. Feds.
Either way your breaking message board rules and doing a disservice to the patriot community for slandering our efforts.
Alex clarified that coming here and shooting your mouth off is disrespectful of his property. Here’s what he had to say:
“No. I own my website. I own Infowars and Prison Planet and the Prison Planet forum. Those are mine. Censorship would be if you owned a newspaper or a website and I came and shut it down and I was the government. It isn’t censorship if you were invited to a backyard barbecue in my backyard and you went over and squatted in the bushes and started defecating and I came over and said ‘look I want you to leave’ that wouldn’t be censorship, it’d be private property.
That’s what you do you come in, you hike your leg in the middle of my website, and these people work overtime to distract and divert. We’ll have a big article about 190 sponsors to end the federal reserve by auditing it, that will end it and they go “ohh yeah, Alex is a Fed. He just wants to…’ And the sick part is most of them aren’t Feds or CoIntelPro, the sick part is they’re just mentally ill detritus and wreckage of this society.
We got a good chance of beating the globalists, we got a good chance by taking action but number one we have got to ignore the diversions and distractions and good people have to be heard. Good people have to speak out and start radio shows and access t.v. shows, and websites and call into talk radio and go into message boards and comment and counter these people. Not just on Infowars and Prison Planet but everywhere.”
rik thomas Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
what you know about mcveigh dumbass?
nothing. if so lets hear it. trolls---.
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 2:51 am
Timothy McVeigh worked for the FBI!!!!!!! Read the Transcripts!
TheGhost Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 5:51 am
steve why dont you just write troll from texas instead so i know next time, i read 2 lines of your dumbs--- post and nearly shat myself in anger..
July 18th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Who the Hell do they think they are? They know who they are. The NWO Gestapo.
July 18th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Here’s the rub:
That letter was written to FFL holders, who have already ceded authority to the feds by taking an FFL.
What it’s going to take, to properly bring a SCOTUS case, is for a NON FFL holder to start selling firearms and ammunition, that are wholly for use, posession, distribution and manufactured within state lines.
Ezra Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
you are correct Anti Federalist. is there a gun company that has those characteristics in that state?
July 18th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
The Federal Highway Commission will just deny TN money until the state complies.
Works every time.
jeffohio Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Therefore the state should stop collecting federal taxes from the sale of gasoline! See, it can work both ways.
rik thomas Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
jeffohio
you’re the man. my sense is we have to take guerilla action while we organize as we can. i guess it’s all fronts. me, i’m a guerilla type.
ATF agent Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
lol…if you only knew!
July 18th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Every state can just say no to the batf. By the consent of the willing. If the States do not recognize the feds authority as being the great and only, then the feds authority is null and void. The people have authority over any branch of government.
I do not give any branch my authority to enslave me. I am sovereign.
July 18th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
You want my guns? Come get them then, from my cold, dead hands.
Steve in Texas Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
NICK …
From your Screen Name, you SAY you are from “New Orleans”.
Is that TRUE?
DID YOU surrender YOUR weapons?
OR ….. Did you resist?
HOW MANY “COPS” did YOU KILL?
I “know” what HAPPENED to ME, when I was there and KNOW “WHO” I killed.
TheGhost Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 5:55 am
you were never there, you were at work, at a cubicle, in a little dark room in the basement of the nsa building, posting useless nonsense about alex being a fed between bouts of chronic masturbation and minesweeper
ATF agent Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
thats your choice…so be it!
July 18th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
There is no way that signature spells Carson W. Carroll!
Actually, this douche bag probably has a point. If you accept THEIR LICENSE you are bound by their rules. They have us by the balls, which is why the ENTIRE federal government needs to be declared illegal, and altered or abolished per the Declaration of Independence.
Licenses = slavery
When will people figure this out? Licenses turn a right into a privilege. They always start out reasonable, then grow into something you don’t like later. The evil people who rule this country didn’t get into their positions of power by being stupid. No, that is our job. We believed their LIES!
When I’m in my car I often hear the idiot Sean Hannity talking about “driving licenses”. What that fool always fails to mention is the government could just cancel all licenses under his line of “logic” and that would be it, the end of “freedom to travel”.
When we get our new Constitution, we must outlaw the turning of a right into a privilege through licenses. Let’s take the time, unlike the LAZY Founding Fathers, and list every single right we DEMAND to have FOREVER, free from judicial interpretation, and fear-mongering politicians.
Let’s refuse to make the same mistake twice, and make it mandatory that the history of their treason and subterfuge be taught to all children in the future so they may fare better then we have!
Steve in Texas Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
BOB …..
PLEASE PUT DOWN THE CRACK PIPE, when YOU post here.
justanotherkook Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
SlaveInTexas-go get a dictionary and look up the following words: license, application, employ, submission, chattel, mortgage, lien. Make sure you read the origins of each word. You have to put down YOUR crack pipe though…
rik thomas Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
bob
guerilla war. do something each day to move forward in that vein. no matter how small.
the time for limp education is a little past. we have to be more agressive. we know the enemy now.
July 18th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
The BAFTA learned a very valuable lesson at Waco.
WE CAN SHOOT THRU WALLS!
The ATF is the modern day NAZI’S
Son of the South Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
STEVE IN TEXAS is a PUNK ASS who has heroes like Timothy McVeigh and Koresh who either hide behind children or kill children. What kind of Southerner are you? Probably a carpet bagger who moved from Barneyland in Massachusetts.
rik thomas Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
son of south is son of b-tch
Son of the Southe Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
rik thomas you must be Steve in Texas punk ass bitch.
Seal Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
OR IS IT “Son of a SOW?”
Are u a pigfarmer “SON”?
Oh ho ho he he te te hee, thats rich, but really folks sonny boy is a lsiping lemming from the al CIA da!
Seal Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
2000 pigs went off the cliff into the sea,.before the LORD, when he helped relieve the poor man with “legion” demons, and their stink, off the cliff, into the ocean to drown there!
R u one of them son of a sow???
Son of the South Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 7:16 am
SEAL, that must what you have when you give to Steve in Texas, and The Ghost. I often wondered what SEAL was, but silly me…
Wm Burroughs Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Just be sure not to let anyone know what your up to in advance. Suprise is the key! Worked good on 9/11 eh? Sorry for the poor comparison but it’s the truth. Vunerability has always been suprise attack read the late Wm Cooper’s book Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars.
July 18th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Talk and action are 2 different things—I live in Tennessee, So come and git ‘em!!!
July 18th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Here we go America, the federal government controlled by the illuminati coming after the right to bear arms and defend ourselves.
July 18th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
alex jones is a fear mongering whore of a liar. visit youtube and look up EarthlasthopeRevived
justanotherkook Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Proof? LMFAO
jimshores Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
I have seen the weak anti- Alex stuff on the net. It is usually one punk with low buget presentation (so it will look amaturish and “real”) who mumbles and moans for 15 minutes and says nothing of importance. NWO has no talent and neither do the trolls on this site. We do not want to discourage you trolls from participating because it reflects on your bosses so accurately, and we could not do a better job of showing your phony B.S..
level6 Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
I have seen most of “earths last hope” bs. I dont believe alex either. I LISTEN TO WHAT THE MAN SAYS AND LOOK IT UP FOR MYSELF!!!! the proof is not AJ or anyone else….. you need only to do a few searches on certain people or documents and read what THEY SAY…. alex is only a middleman/translator…. he may find the more obscure information, but the fact remains that everything he has pointed me to has said exactly what he says it does. besides…. earthslasthope — from what Ive seen sources nothing… your just supposed to believe it…. a great way to spread disinfo.
rik thomas Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
not for me. we got real work to do. anyone that wants to cut up alex -who by the way is not god or jesus or right all the time- is a very very confused puppy.
we take alex for what he is. a man talking to us. not perfect and doesn’t need to be.
July 18th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
SEPARATE THE THE STATES BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE!!!!!
Ben Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
Separate them from Washington DC, not from one another.
Pack a gun and pay no tax.
July 18th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Tennessee is a new terrorist state. Is McCain going to sing the bomb bomb song again?
July 18th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
They’ve got a lust for power that makes them keep tightening the noose. But when enough people feel that noose tight enough ’round their necks, the rope, like the bullets that Neo defeated in the Matrix in the realization that they were a programmed figment of his imagination, will lose its effect.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
the feds can “declare” what the f--- they want. but they’re not going to get it.
this is a little bit worrying though, because it’s not even a legal procedure here. it’s just people declaring stuff, and well, if you don’t like it, here comes a SWAT team.
jimshores Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Those black uniforms and black masks are a problem in summer; they get too hot quickly. They are also made of nylon and other flamable materials. I think it is dangerous to the “person” wearing that outfit. Attack black will become a war-cry.
Black Holes Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
the black outfits are good cause there is no name or personality there, nobody home so okay to shoot.
rik thomas Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
at this point you know the good people are long gone from the black shirted crew.
that’s helpful. if a good man is among them he will be happy when he returns to our maker.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
The 2nd and 10th Amendments, are written to protect all of us. Sounds like another WACO in the making??
Griz Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
What, they gonna surround the state? That would put some of them squarely in Missouri, not too far from me. Bad idea.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Civil War II – State vs. Federal rights. Come on people, you all know it’s time to start dismantalling the Federal Government – it is your right. Do me a favor, when you dismantle, don’t start a new one.
MAD DOG Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
THEY ALWAYS SAID THE WAR WASN’T OVER
THE SOUTH WOULD RISE AGAIN.
rik thomas Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
i always had a problem with the civil war. never made sense. the slave trade tho was evil from the beginning. dumb s--- that bit everyone in the butt.
what i have noticed now, as a priviledged northener, is i now have the anxiety that my black brothers had for so long here on this crazy continent.
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 3:14 am
How many times will someone say that the Civil war was fought over slavery?
IT WAS FOUGHT OVER STATES RIGHTS!!!!!!! Slavery NEVER came up until near the END of it!
The Southern States were pissed off at the Federal Gvernment for telling them that they had to do this and that or they wouldn’t get any assistance from them, Finally the Southern States had the balls to say go screw yourself and filed a motion for Succession! Then the Federal government came in and told them that they COULDN”T BREAK UP THE UNION, and thus a war started!
The Southerners had 1 problem, at the time of the Civil war, they HAD NO INDUSTRY EXCEPT mostly cotton Plantations. So they really couldn’t sustain a war! So, they went and asked England for help, with money, guns and advice! England was also approached by the North, and basically told them both, “not as long as you hold slaves”, The South got mad because NOW England was trying to tell them what to do, and they told England NO!
Lincoln agreed, (Even though he didn’t want people of Color as he put it in the U.S.) and signed the Declaration to free the slaves who weren’t owned by the Union!
THAT IS WHERE SLAVERY CAME INTO IT AT!
THE CIVIL WAR WAS FOUGHT OVER STATES INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS TO DECIDE WHAT IS LAWFUL FOR THEM ETC!
SOUND FAMILAR???
TheGhost Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 6:04 am
true, it really was a side issue, it def didnt hold much sway with lincoln, who really didnt care about black people at all, it was more of a political tool used when the time dictated, if lincoln really cared about slavery he wouldve campaigned about it or atleast kept quiet and then once getting into office announcing his legislation
Mike the Pat Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
If all you “South Will Rise Again,” doofuses are going to talk about it get the damn words right. You sound like raging idiots! It’s SECESSION from the union not SUCCESSION! Jesus!
Col Gadsden Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 5:31 am
Lincoln wanted to send 75,000 troops to SC to subdue the rebellion and demanded that each state form 3 brigades to do so. He got more than he bargained for when Virginia also seceded. That’s why they later attempted to nationalize each states militia (National Guard Act) a right only reserved to each state according to the 2nd Amendment. Thus the NGA is illegal as well. It cannot supersede the 2nd Amendment.
Lincoln was initialized financed by the bankers in NY and Philly. But then he went to congress to print green backs this infuriated the bankers who paid to have him killed. Paying 25% interest is what they wanted and not making war profits ticked them off.
The South was not prepared to engage in the war for the long haul because they lacked a large Navy and all of the engagements accept Gettysburg were defensive fighting engagements. They were delaying attacks to get the federal forces to capitulate or for the US Congress to Seek Peace. If Lee would have won in PA the Civil War would have came to a close once he took his army to DC, which I wish God would have allowed to happen. But Now he has risen up New Patriots to take the lead.
Robert E. Lee should have took his Army of Virginia and went straight to DC and burnt it to the ground to make a point. But he did not. Stonewall Jackson said it best when he said those famous words uttered everywhere else. “Kill them all and let God discern there valor.” His opinion on all the troops that invaded his home of Virginia.
I’m Pennsylvanian and I believe in our states rights and I am tired of the minority groups controlling our interests both at the Federal level and state level. Its time we the Majority make a stand. I do not advocate violence but we the people know where this new path of freedom is going to lead us. Its sad of course because over half of the grievances in the Declaration of Independence are now being enforced by a tyrannical Federal government.
I will stand with any citizen of any U.S. state to fight the FED or Foreign Invaders! If means Secession so be it. If the fight is in Tennessee I will come to her aid, if it be in Texas I will come to her aid, and if its in Pennsylvania I hope someone will also come to our aid.
The Declaration of Independence says We can change things when they are no longer bearable. It is the same premise the Fed uses to make laws to supersede the Constitution without our authority.
Its seems to me that their are may Patriots here, Veterans like myself and others who would do what is necessary for their Freedoms as they are in the DOI and the CON.
Are we all willing to pledge our lives, wealth, and our sacred honor once again?
Col Gadsden
God Bless Our Revolution!
July 18th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Well, you know, the Feral (federal) government will soon be caving to the UN, which will forbid firearms ownership except for their own scumbags, so this Tennessee law would be a nuisance for them. The way guns and ammo have been selling in this country, its gonna be really hard for them to disarm us all. FEAR THE GOVERNMENT THAT FEARS YOUR GUN!
rik thomas Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
they apparently are NOT going to get the guns except thru the business end.
so, that leaves bioweapons/vaccines and chemtrails.
hold on to your hat.
good ole boys, colloidal silver works and you can make it cheap cheap cheap once you get the hardware for distilling water and creating the silver.
i know it sounds strange, but i am trying to help keep you alive. i had “lyme” disease -another government created plague- and the silver worked. it’s gonna require some intelligence, practice and learning, but even you southern boys can handle it if you put your mind to it.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Interesting. So if federal law supersedes the act, shouldn’t federal law supersede other state gun control and local gun control laws making many of them invalid ?
Chips Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Only if you want to swallow their bait.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
IMPORTANT…..Did you guys notice that the letter wasn’t even signed by Carson Carroll? The signature doesn’t match, so even by the ATF’sown rules, the letter is invalid. This is how they operate. Our rights are that unimportant to these traitors that they just allow anyone to sign their treasonous documents and then call it authentic.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
“Alcohol,Tobacco,Firearms & Explosives”…
Sounds like a great party to me!I’ll bring the chips and ammo!
"Redneck" Lady Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
LOL! Let the games begin!
July 18th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
tennessee needs to stand up for their rights and not give in to the feds. f--- the federal government this s--- is ridiculous
July 18th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
WTF!
July 18th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
I want to move to tennesee!!!!!!!
Anyone need a journyman painter there? PLEASE??!!!!!!!!
jeffohio Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
My cousin has 8,000 sq ft home there. 150 acres. mountains, or as about as big as they get there. Good hide out!
July 18th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
the constitution IS THE ONLY LAW UNDER GOD GIVEN RIGHTS THAT CANNOT BE CHANGED OR BROKEN WE IN THE usa ARE THE law called BILL OF RIGHTS read it idiots.The people are the law you are paid servants or officals!
kat from ky Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
If no one openly challenges these traitors, then we are declared “in agreement” with them. Well…..the media doesn’t. Congress doesn’t. No one in authority challenges them, enabling them to continue to run roughshod over our Consitution.
Eric Holder once called America a country of cowards??? The cowards are the tyrants…they have no freedom. Their only freedom is to control others. They are the cowards.
HOW DO WE CHALLENGE THEM?
July 18th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
The letter is a fake. Anyone could have written it because it wasn’t signed by the person who supposidly wrote it. Hell I could have written it on BATFE letterhead.
joshbot Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Given the history of the BATF and the explosive rate of audacious gun grabbing bills, I’d put money on it being real.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
My suggestion to the “Courageous State of Tennessee” is to do what they want. Let the Fed file first. Make them the bad guys.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
When they come for our guns in the USA we will once again begin ruling ourselves.
Come by my friend’s site http://unitedstatesmilitia1776.ning.com/ to find like minded people, videos and chat. Our goal being to get the word out to as many people as we can. This is a Non-Violent Site as violence only ratifies The Police State. We are here to make our differences our strength, so if you know who the enemy is, let’s get to work. See you there !!!
To be a leader you must only act like one. -marc27
‘V’ for VERBALMILITIA
verbalmilitia.com
marc27
July 18th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
95% of the problems we face are because our printing press is in the control of foreign bankers. We really need it back, NOW!
July 18th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Ignore the BATFE Tennesee. Stand firm, we need a rallying point. You could be the flashpoint. The state that patriots flock to enmasse. If you stand firm, patriots will back you. If you get spineless, we will continue to look for a strong state government willing to take a stand for the people.
1776 Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
I might be Missouri. Yes I know we are called a backwards state, and maybe that’s true,
but I also know that Missouri people are mighty prickly about respect, honor, privacy, and
states/individual rights. I live in a small town. Lived here for years and know how these
people think and feel.
Just let those assholes try to pull this stunt here in Missouri. Watch all hell break loose…..
rik thomas Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
like i said, i was born in st. louis. now, that ain’t exactly missouri as a whole, but we were a special state.
in fact, one way to fite back is to reclaim the heritage of each state, what made them great.
mark twain came from missouri and if he ain’t one of the great americans there aren’t any.
there is room in our country for a great future.
i feel that we here are getting a sense again of what made america great in the good sense.
add to that the knowledge we have now of the coming age of man.
god bless
July 18th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The states powers overpower the fed powers.. according to the g.d piece of paper they call the US CONSTITUTION!
July 18th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
I can see a point in time when ANYONE working or in cahoots with the feds will be have to go into hiding ,,, denounce their jobs or take the chance of being put on trial by the people of this Great REPUBLIC for treason and swing by their necks until they die from it..
1776 Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
We got a lot of rope available here in Missouri………
MAD DOG Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
MAKE IT OUT OF HEMP
IRONIC JUSTICE.
HANG THEM WITH ILLEGAL ROPE.
TheGhost Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 6:09 am
we could always do both, depending on the severity of the crime i suppose
Griz Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Hell, rope’s too good for ‘em. Hang ‘em from the razor wire cut down from those camps they don’t have!
spud Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Yes sir ree Bob
Phoenix Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Lol
July 18th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
What next? A tax on tea and stamps?
1776 Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Hush!! You want to give those redcoats any more ideas than they already have?
spud Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
It’s already nothing but tax,, my friend
July 18th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
We no longer live in a Constitutional Republic, we live in a Corporate State.
The reason that the federal statutes supercede the state’s act is because the state is now a corporation. The corporation of the United States is the parent of all the state corporations and this means that the states cannot overrule federal authority.
Before the states incorporated they were the creator of the federal government and could overrule it. Now, just like man cannot overrule God, a state corporation cannot overrule its parent corporation, the United States.
Also, by fraudulent contracts, the corporation of the United States considers all citizens as corporations and thus you are a slave and owned by the United States. You should free yourself from this system.
http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/895
Dave Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
I’ve used all this stuff and it doesn’t work. Not because it isn’t true, but because you all make the tragic mistake of believing that the government cares about the law. The law is for you, not for them. If you use this stuff, you will have your property taken, or spend everything you have to defend yourself in courts which do not follow the law or honor private contracts. The best way to beat the system is to minimize your use of of it and teach others not to use it. Stop borrowing their money, then try to use it less and less until you don’t need it.
ICNSAY Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
I totally agree.
Chips Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
I second the motion. Grow, sew and exchange, if you can.
John Galt Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Dave is right!!!!!!!
aloofcitizen Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Thats why it has become a fascist regime, which is the merging of corporation and government to control every facet of your life .
July 18th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
I smell A lawsuite! If my state passed such legislation, and I was a gun dealer, and I had money for an attorney, I would sue the FEDS for $100,000,000!!!!
July 18th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
All political power comes from the barrel of a gun.
The Feds have the guns…
They also have nerve gas, atomic bombs, cluster bombs, 10 of thousands of soldiers, tanks, mortars, machine guns… carpet bombs, b-52 s , psyciotic weapons…. And that will trumph The Bill Of Rights every time.
Turns out that the Consitiution really is just a goddammed piece of paper.
Griz Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
And “They will win!” is an excuse for not trying every time…
Chips Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
…and “they” still come from us; brothers, sisters, cousins, fathers, mothers, lovers…
Griz Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:23 am
I agree and it is hopeful that none of their blood be shed. But, let us not forget who is taking our brothers, sisters, cousins, fathers, mothers, lovers, sons and daughters into their service and placing them in harms way every day in far flung corners of the world and right here. If their loyalties be well placed and with an understanding of the Constitution they are sworn to defend, they will have every legal, moral and ethical right to simply stand down faced with orders “to put down an uprising and fire on U.S. citizens”. I hope for a peaceful solution, but it is not necessarily the likely outcome when faced with criminal intent and the intent of tyranny from a supposedly elected, representative form of government within a Constitutional Republic. May the BATFE soon realize that they’ve bitten off far more than they can chew and usurped that from the government of the people that they allegedly serve. And “They will win!” is still an excuse for not trying every time…
Chips Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Your heart is in your post, a solid and well expressed line of reasoning. Thank you.
John Galt Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Outspoken patriot;
Yes. The Constitution is printed on paper like so many other valuable documents, like your birth certificate. Thought you dont need a certificate to prove you were born because you are here. Paper has authority, (ask the fraud Obammy who wont show his papers). Yes power does come from the barrel of a gun. But where does authority come from? In America we have no (earthly) King, (this was like it or not founded as a Christian Nation), be they James or Caesar because authority comes from the consent of the governed, then the authority comes from us, the governed, the people, and thus the guns of the people have the power to enforce the authority behind them, we ARE the sovereign. The servant is trying to disarm the master by beguilement and deception, so we cannot enforce the law upon the servants. They are changing the law to make the servants the Masters.
Chips Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 7:41 am
“They are changing the law to make the servants the Masters.”
Exactly.
July 18th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
“But according to Assistant Director Carson W. Carroll of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, the U.S. Constitution is little more than a g.d. piece of paper, as George W. Bush so infamously deemed it during his reign as the decider-in-chief.”
They are both right, you know. It is just a piece of paper. And as such, the Constitution cannot defend itself. That’s been left up to you to do for yourself and your posterity.
July 18th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
f--- you ATF!!!! You bitches can suck a donkey’s dick!
July 18th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Of course I’m just starting to know 2 0r 3 months now) much of what has already been known by this fine website and waht you all have been commenting on, and this is like my 3rd or so post. But what I’m setting my consentration on is—how to use this awareness on an individual basis, as widespread as it’s become, and bring out on a more obvious level to notify the general public of the degree of subversiveness within our gov without being controversial.
I’ve heard some opinions that have been related to the feeling of frustration, lack of a responsible effort to act, and that without being a united front and having exclusive set organized procedure on the way of “violent and deadly” means to stop what has continued, leading to giving in or up because “there’s nothing we can do.”
This seems to me unique, because sources available must come into play. And before it goes away, I would like to propose we use the U.S. Mail as the vehicle. And that we take a set circumstance where opinions as in such an important issue like this one-that we know to be a controversial move, and wherever it has the most strong show of our governments use to esnare the right without cause and ask for a “vote” so to speak, and then forward the consensus to a reliable (this part is iffy) source of recievement by a representative in the state.
I can explain more if I see any interest. My concern help with details, and is low key profile and protection on commmunicating to ensure it will happen and succeed.
Hope if this is not considered that no one gives up trying. Half the battle is knowing-this is what should always be a priority!
MAD DOG Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
MY GOD IS THAT WHAT AN EDUCATION GIVES YOU ?
ALL THOSE WORDS AND YOU DIDN’T SAY NOT 1 WORD OF SUBSTANCE.
THERE’S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING RELATED TO THE TOPIC IN THERE.
DROP OUT OF SCHOOL AND LEARN COMMON SENSE.
WHAMMO! Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Could someone translate this into English?
Ben Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
He means he wants people to vote for him.
Ben Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
All those who say mumbo-jumbo want that.
MP Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
The Gov. can read all mail, just like they can listen to all phone calls.
TheGhost Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 6:13 am
yeah dude, im sure they dont mean to be rude, but seriously youve got a long way to go
oldenough Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 1:11 am
I do believe this mans rant is a bi-product of a chemically induced diatribe. When taken at face value, one can only interpret it as well meaning, though thorougly void of any intellectual stimulation. One can only imagine that upon his wakening the following morning, will he see the errors of his ways.
Then comes the knock at the door, which would be his mother bitching about him getting ready for summer school.
July 18th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Jesus said your best deeds are as filthey rags. By works of the Law no one will be justified. I think one of the steps of becoming a christian is to believe the Bible to be the inherint word of God. God does not lye and He is iresistable. He never gives up on you. When He says believe on the Lord Jesus Christ that is true. When He says Those whom He quikens that just what He said. When He says the gifts and the call of God are with out repentance that is what He means. Grace is a gift however He says we do not sin that grace might abound. God is for you. YA and Amen.
July 18th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
It is time for a call to arms fellow American’s who are not sheeple or lemmings!
July 18th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
People in the midwest, are not the type the feds want to be messing with. Remember bleeding kansas?? The fighting that lead to the civil war started seven years earlier between Kansas and missouri.
The midwest, that’s the place the feds should send troops, if they never want to see those troops again. They will just vanish and no ever saw anything.
just waiting for the shooting to start in minnesota also Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
i hear yeah. us rural folks are locked and loaded. we are practicing our killing skills by shooting cats out of trees and drowning chipmunks in our eavestroughs…lol
TheGhost Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 6:15 am
lmao
July 18th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Truth of the mater any laws or lawmakers / bureaucrats that infringe on the the right to bear arms.
is COMMITTING AN ACT OF TREASON! PERIOD!
Chemhuffer Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
no,
Title 18 Section 2381 of the United States Code dictates treason as:
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United
States, levies war against them or adheres to
their enemies, giving them aid and comfort
within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty
of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned
not less than five years and fined under
this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be
incapable of holding any office under the United
States.
by definition they are not aiding our enemies. they are the enemy of american freedoms however.
Griz Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:39 am
And may not the governing body and agents of a Constitutional Republic be acting as the enemy of the same when they ignore their sworn oath of office, the guiding intent and letter of the Constitution of that Republic and interfere with its citizenry’s guaranteed rights under that Constitution? Are usurpers of power actually protected as they go about undermining the principles of the restraining agreement for their own purposes in open collusion? Are the people, We the People, who have given our tacit agreement to be governed under the Constitution really bound not to withdraw that agreement when the fault of breach is not theirs? Especially and specifically under circumstances that the installed government is making more and more provisions for color of law to dissuade the citizenry from protest and ignoring the normal channels of redress specified? I THINK NOT!
July 18th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
The BATF is a federal law enforcement agency and the constitution does not give federal police power to the federal government. It existence is unconstitutional and its authority should be in question. If you remember, the FBI and all the other fed police agency’s were created to deal with the interstate crime back in the 20’s and 30’s. Bank robberies would occur and then the thieves would just drive across the state line. It was an answer to organized crime and its use of juridstictional boundaries.
John Galt Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
The BATFE is a subsidiary Agency of the IRS. Yep a collection arm.
jeffohio Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
The US Marshall’s are the only Constitutionaly recognised Federal law enforcement agency. An argument can be supported that ALL others are un-Con.
To say that the bank robbers of the 20’s and 30’s were “organized” is very complimentary to the robbers, to say the least!
July 18th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
i love tyranny!
Ben Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
You had to shoot yourself because of tyranny.
Syphilis Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Dont forget Syphilis
TheGhost Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 6:19 am
AND YOU HAD YOUR COUSIN PEE ON YOUR FACE!!!
Prescott Steve Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 8:46 am
Hitler let his cousin do that because he liked it.
July 18th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Hey, BATF….
Tenth Amendment – “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
Now for crying out loud, how hard is that to freakin’ understand!?! Morons.
July 18th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
In fact the Constitution explicitly states that state law trumps federal law except in cases where the Government has the explicit right to do something. And as there’s nothing in the Constitution about the government being able to regulate internal state gun activities, they’re full of s---.
Justin Thought Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
“This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made IN PURSUANCE THEREOF…” (emphasis added)
“Amendment II – Right to Bear Arms. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.” (emphasis added)
I don’t see how the supremacy clause applies, since any gun-control laws made by the feds are not “IN PURSUANCE THEREOF.”
I stand willing to be corrected…
Amazed Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
I think every God fearing citizen should be able to own his own nuclear weapon…how else are we gonna keep the damn gays from getting married and the damn Mexicans from taking all of our fruit picking jobs. God fearing, but only God fearing, citizens should also be allowed to keep smallpox viruses and any chemical weaponry they feel is necessary to do God’s work. After all, that is what we are all here for…to do God’s work!
July 18th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
f---in’ LOCK n’ LOAD!!!!
July 18th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
How awesome would it be if the state of TN didn’t pussy out, tell the Federal courts to eat s--- and die, then when they send their ATF hit teams, the citizens along with the sheriff departments kill all of them? Of course the illegal ATF could just obey the Constitution and get peaceable jobs in the private sector, and no one would get hurt, but then they wouldn’t be the ATF.
lee lee Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
I gurantee we won’t “pussy out” as you say!
Amazed Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
I’m sure Tennessee will stand strong until the Feds say…fine have your guns…as long as you don’t want any federal dollars coming into the state…
Oh yeah, I’m sure the guns are made with ore mined in Tennessee and then smelted in Tennessee as well.
I like the recent law letting guns into bars…that ought to thin the herd fairly well.
July 18th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Nazis taking every state, one step at a time.
July 18th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Texas will stand with you Tennessee !
Josh F Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Amen to that!
1776 Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:24 am
Bet there will be plenty of folks in Missouri willing to stand with you Tennessee. Starting with this Missouri resident….
Griz Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:54 am
…and I will also…
July 18th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
This letter is violating supreme court precedence .
http://www.dailyherald.com/sto.....mp;src=143
This “Supreme Court” decision on City of Chicago vs NRA
Nra filed a lawsuit challenging the gun ban in Chicago Illinois.
The gun ban was upheld citing the states and local municipalities had the rights to ban weapons.
What is it going to be Supreme Court is it up to states rights or is not?
This precedence set also devalues the entire bill of rights and U.S. Constitution, constitutional amendments can be overturned by local states and municipalities .
NOT only can a state dismiss the second amendment but it can also dismiss the 1st and any other amendment that is contained in that document as long is the state and local municipality has ruled on it.
IF a state can disregard any constitutional amendment they can disregard them all if proper procedure is followed.
MP Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 4:07 am
Us hillbillys here in TN. could care less, what amendments any branch of gov. dismisses…..Be it state, federal, or supreme court…If they dismiss any of our rights, then they are traitors, PERIOD!!!!!!!! They aint taking our guns…………………………Oh and by the way, to “the hunted”:The constitution existed long before the Federal Mafia usurped control of our congress in 1913.
Google Federal Mafia, and educate yourself
July 18th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Just say no and be willing to back it up.
July 18th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Hey Tennessee,I’ll be glad to come down and stand with you against the Feds.Just call and I’ll come a runnin…
jeffohio Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
And what if when the SHTF, the Feds close ALL the river crossings. Either near TN. or the entire country? If the Ohio,Missouri,Miss. Columbia, Delaware, Red, Arkansas rivers were closed, the people would be trapped.
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 3:35 am
What, you saying that you can’t navigate a simple river crossing without a bridge???
Griz Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Hell, man, a mad hillbilly will SWIM if need be…
July 18th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Who coulda seen that one coming?
July 18th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
hello
July 18th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
hellloo
July 18th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Why do the feds shine a flashlight up my asshole, when 20 million illegals pour across the border at will? Why have millions of cameras been installed to watch me, this is bulls---. Why does Homeland Security arm the Boston Police, and want them to walk the streets of Boston with Machine Guns? Does Granny really pose a threat? Bhutto was assassinated because she reported that Bin Laden died 2005. This is all control by the Industrial Military Complex and a corrupt government. The scariest thing of all is that we actually have assholes working in the government who are just like the assholes who tortured in Iraq, who don’t give a s--- about your freedom.
Col Gadsden Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 6:08 am
Correct!
Osama Bin Laden has been dead for years!
He had bad kidneys and was on weekly sometimes daily dialysis. That cave must sure be set up with a top notch medical staff as well.
The war in Iraq and Afghanistan is a lie! I am sorry for everyone’s losses there but it has nothing to do with American National Security or 9/11.
July 18th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
screw that noise that’s garbage! What the hell is even the point of being a state if you have no rights cuz of the feds? If you have the ability as a state to make laws but then the fed just comes in and “overturns” it what kind of voice does the state really have?
July 18th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Hooray Tenn. Go get them. Get the sheriffs of each county where the BATF people have offices to thow them out. They can’t legally resist them. If you need deputies we’ll raise bunches for you.
July 18th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
If Tennessee lawmakers have any pills at all, they have to look seriously at the option of secession at this point. Which is probably precisely what the Illuminists want, because it begins the process of fomenting a revolutionary war in this country, which will culminate in their usurpation of greater power and authority for the Papal See.
Amazed Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Secession worked out well before…
July 18th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Long live the reveloution,Death to the new world order!
July 18th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
UNFORTUNATELY… UNTIL THE PEOPLE START ACTUALLY TAKING ACTION.. THESE TYPES OF THINGS WILL FOREVER CONTINUE TO THREATEN OUR LIBERTY AND OUR PURSUIT OF JUSTICE.
July 18th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Bastard feds need firing.
July 18th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
The BATFE better watch their backs, we outnumber them 3000 to 1 and I have NO problem targeting those criminal assholes and sending them all to hell. Let the Revolution begin! Read Unintended Consequences by John Ross and get the plan to rid ourselves of the BATFE and tyrannical government.
Apparently these SOB’s haven’t read the 10th Amendment to the Constitution. Tennessee has EVERY RIGHT to tell the fed to go f--- themselves in matters within the border of Tennessee. And someone else mentioned that American Patriots would be glad to assist in ridding a state of jack-booted thugs like BATFE. Let me know. I would be happy to help send some of those cocksuckers straight to hell!
Prescott Steve Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Bravo Militia!
lee lee Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
…could not have said it better…they obviously don’t know who they are effin’ with…
…labeled as hillbillies, rednecks, backwoods, etc…yep there’s a reason for it. We are a different breed, and this breed will not allow anyone or anything to stand in the way of our sovereignty
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 3:39 am
I guess they never actually met any “True” Hillbillies, or simple pissed off folks! Especially if they’re talking trash like that to TN!!!!
July 18th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Lets us know for sure how far the rat hole The Republic has gone. I think it is time to defend that G..D dahm piece of paper and put it back in its rightful place as a gift from God and the bedrock of Free society. The Constitution represents a free society. The fed arbitrarily superseding at their whim is tyranny.
Amazed Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
If the original constitution was a “Gift from God”, why has their been a need to amend it? By the way…your “Gun Right” was in an AMENDMENT…
You do know what amendment means…right?
Josh F Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Wow..
another one…
not worth a response..
just keep going along with what’s real.
July 18th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
>The Necessary and Proper clause gives congress the power to rig voting machines and shoot focused radiation beams at people’s heads
July 18th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
WRONG this fed decleration is invaild
July 18th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
1 percent=3 million guns on you…
When the sheep wake up 30 million guns on you..
It will be a killing field, but the victors will be the Patriots!.
NWO,and its minnions better listen, as we in AMERICA, will defend our G-D given rights.
We will, and our like minded friends of LIBERTY, will defend until the end!.However it may be…
The streets will run red,with your red!!!………..
1776 Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:30 am
This poem says it very well…..
Boots on the Ground
Boots on the ground
loud noise in the street
the sound that you’re hearin’
is a million marching feet
You corrupt congress critters
best sit up and take note
We’re storming your castle
‘Cause we’ve breached your moat!
You’ve finally crossed
our very last line
Pack up get out
Before we kick your behinds
You outsource our jobs
take our paychecks away
You treat us like servents
and we have no say
You introduce evil bills
that get signed into law
You laugh while you push us
and rub our nerves raw
unPatriot Acts 1 and 2
and the MCA
Your “Free Speech Zones”
so you can lock us away
But this brand new bill
that will take away all our guns
was our very last line
now run boys run!
Boots on the ground
storming the streets
10 million angry citizens
Talking with their feet……..
Michael Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Hey dude,
You did not credit that poem, may I ask who should the credit go to?
behind the scenes Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
You may ask who the credit should go to but I prefer to operate behind the scenes.
And while it is rather flattering that you assume I am a dude, I must confess that
I am not.
(smiles) Women write great poems too.
Seal Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Wooo Hooo, these boots are made for walkin’ & thats just what they’ll do!!!BABY, one of these days these boots & saddles, r gonna walk all over you! YEA BABY!!!
Let me too get behind the scenes, let me back you up there infowars-baby!
Seal Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Boots & Saddles!!!
1776 Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:31 am
So does this one……
Revolution Coming
Revolution coming
to this country soon
it will start with a spark
then grow to a boom!
Government gone rogue
law turned upside down
who will stand proud?
who will cower to the ground?
Illegal laws passed
against our Constitution
Time to declare
a 2nd Revolution
We’re not treated like citizens
just looked upon as slaves
They take away our rights
Rotten evil knaves!
Taxes, vaccines, lies upon lies
they don’t listen to our voices
and don’t heed our cries
Our Bill of Rights
has been ripped to shreds
Then tossed like ashes
upon our heads
Revolution coming
to this country soon
it will start with a spark
then grow to a BOOM!
Amazed Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Perhaps the Feds will just gas Tennessee and start over…the illegal aliens have to go some place.
July 18th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
MOTHER f---ING STATES RIGHTS!!!! those VOLS need to stand up and say f--- YOU FEDS
Craig@wearechangenewjersey.org
By the way i lived in nashville for a year!!!
Kevin Black Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
This Birth Certificate looks hot off the printer to me and not official looking at all like mine.
Ask Obama’s grand mother what she thinks kuz she is sure he was born in Kenya Africa.
My guess is she would know.
Rather odd she get no media coverage… If GWB had a living grand mother we would have had her burned in to our eye balls by the media.
Common since tells me it’s a fake.
Amazed Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
They gave out birth certificates in your barn? Did the vet sign it to make it official…
July 18th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Let’s back em down boys!!!
Are we REAL REBELS or walmart rebels????
Tennessee Freedom!!!!!!!!!
July 18th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
The BATFE has NO JURISDICTION in Tennessee, any federal gun laws are Unconstitutional and always have been. A Tennessee law is a LAW!
Ben Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 5:50 am
The TN RIFLES has a good, tolerant and peaceable policy.
Pack a gun and pay no tax.
July 18th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
It looks hot off the printer to me and not official looking at all like mine.
Ask Obama’s grand mother what she thinks kuz she is sure he was born in Kenya Africa.
My guess is she would know.
Rather odd she get no media coverage… If GWB had a living grand mother we would have had her burned in to our eye balls by the media.
Common since tells me it’s a fake.
July 18th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
BATF doesn’t have authority to decide s---, they follow the laws not decide on them or legislate. This piece of s--- needs to be arrested, if the Governor has even 1 ball he will issue a warrant for the arrest of this turd and demand extradition. Tennessee, put up or shut up and if you shut up go ahead and bend over and grease up.
July 18th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
EVEN THE TRUTH SEEKERS DONT SEEK THE REAL TRUTH!
July 18th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
they want to disarm ure asses
July 18th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
The Hunted;
The Federal Government was created by the Union of the State (Creator) and given (received from the States) limited Powers. Hence limited Constitutional Republic. Say it slow. Federal Law supersedes State law so long as it is authority it is give within the frame work of the Constitution. Therein lies the rub. Read the 9th and 10th Amendments.
July 18th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
The nature of this trend in “more government power is the solution” for every goddamn problem is the root of this republic’s problems… i know i’m only spouting the obvious by saying that. Instead of restricting freedoms when a murder takes place, why not write a law “the government shall not infringe the right to _t_e_x_t___o_f___n_a_t_u_r_a_l___r_i_g_h_t___g_o_e_s___h_e_r_e__________ ” and let the people be the solution to the problem of manslaughter?
thats obviously the solution, since the government not only can’t protect the individual, but in our case in 2009, REFUSES AND IS THE PROBLEM we must protect ourselves from.
July 18th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
The Hunted??? Well it wont be because you understand the Constitution
Crawl back under your rock troll.
July 18th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
The BATFE can make any call they like. They can call their sons home from ballet school, for all I care.
July 18th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Want to know about Obama and his bith certificate
http://americangrandjury.org/b.....pure-fraud
July 18th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
The contitution says it is the duty of every american to stand up and fight when government attempts to oppress the people.The right to bear arms is a part of the constitution whether law makers like it or not and IT DOES NOT SAY EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE OR THAT ONE
That was written into contitution so we could kill you rotten bastards that try to take away freedom or own us like slaves Any government without corruption can run off 10 percent of gnp
that includes healthcare and scholarship
We are currently at close to 40 percent enough is enough
Time to start tarring and feathering or maybe we get 12 of us convictict some of treason
I do have a big oak tree and a horse and a rope
Josh F Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Actually the declaration says that it is the duty of a people to stand up when they are being oppressed. but I back your position completely.
1776 Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:34 am
If you run out, come down and see us in Missouri. Hell we don’t mind sharing. We got lots more rope available and ready…..
July 18th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
It is said that the government of the United States of America comes nearest of any on Earth to being an ideal government. No honest man understanding the conditions in the United States can claim that it is a satisfactory government. True its founders declared that all men are endowed with the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; but this ideal has never been realized by the people. True also that the founders of this government said that all just powers of government are derived from the consent of the people; but now the consent of the people is neither asked nor obtained. For some years after it was founded ,there was an attempt to carry into effect the announced principles of government; but never has it succeeded. The fundamental laws of the land declare that the people shall have freedom of speech, the right of peaceable assembly, the liberty of conscience without coercion, and the privilege to worship God according to the dictates of each one’s conscience. These rules of action are ideal, but they are denied daily by those who have and exercise the power of government. The officials of the United Sates government take a solemn oath to safeguard and protect the interest of the American people; but such oath is repeatedly violated by the officials, both high and low. The three primary branches of this government of the United States are the Legislative, the Executive and the Judicial; but it is well known that fraud and corruption are rampant in every one of these branches. It is true that there are honest men in all of these branches of government doing the best they know how; but the honest ones do not predominate, because the dishonest ones control affairs. There are two classes of government officials who indulge in the violation of laws, to wit, the caught and the uncaught. The weaker ones are caught and examples made of them for show. The stronger and more influential are not caught because there is no desire that they shall be hindered in their wrongful course. Government officials whose duty under the law is to ferret out and punish crime, is instead vigorous and active in the punishment of men who dare exercise their constitutional rights. Another cabinet official, sworn to protect and safeguard the property interest of the people, enters into a conspiracy with wicked profiteers to wrongfully deprive the people of their property; and for this he or she receives large bribes. Conscienceless profiteers who have, by fraud, acquired fabulous sums of money, a portion of which they use to corrupt the voters and government officials to the end that they may continue to carry on their wicked work. These corrupt and wicked men are really the power of government behind the scenes. The power of government is therefore in the hands of a few men whose god is money. And these men and all world governments are puppets of the true puppet master who dwells in the shadows.
July 18th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Here is the TRUTH about what Obama is up to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5I6ho0Qjco
Amazed Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Ah yes…YouTube..the fountain of truth…finally we shall be enlightened!
oldenough Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
LMAO !!
July 18th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
if things get worse than they are now,it will become patriotic,not treasonous to succeed!One state will succeed and the whole country will move there-lmao!!!!!
July 18th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Apparently, the FEDS have not been to our neck of the woods. It’s probably because they know that the piece of paper they wrote their non-constitutional jargon on will be used as target practice.
BigTim Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
whilst it’s taped to their foreheads…….
1776 Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:36 am
So will their shiny asses. Say their round are they not?
July 18th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
IF the Fed oversteps the Constitution
It is THE DUTY of the people to Through that Government Aside!!!!!!
The State should React By Seceding from the US And All states should follow.
robertfromreno Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
where in the US Constitution, or any State Constitution, does it say that? By the way, it is throw not through. You go through a door and you throw a rock.
July 18th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
The BATF are insane. It’s time that the stats activate the militia.
July 18th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
You can still buy guns and ammunition in the great state of TN.
However the law that was passed by the state that guns and ammunition made in TN that stay in TN, meaning not crossing the border, and purchased by non felons, in a legal way, doesn’t have to be registered, is now null and void.
Can anyone else tell me of a state that has this law where guns purchased in a store made in that state doesn’t have to be registered?
Anyways…… if anyone here thinks that the rednecks in this state still don’t fly rebel flags and have riffle racks in the back of their pickups are sadly mistaken.
It isn’t a win for the federal govt.
Its just back to the absolute same gun laws people around here are used to.
Josh F Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
This is actually something that was troubling me. I heard several rumors that TX had made a similar law for our guns made and owned here in TX. I never heard anything else about it so if anyone else has please let me know.
If we have made this law, I’d love to know why we haven’t received the same notification as TN… or is it because people of the world are still a bit scared to “mess with Tx”?
July 18th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
The letter only applies to FFL holders, so just dont get an FFL
July 18th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
We are headed for a civil war anyway and anyone who is gonna do anything about anything is already loaded for bear , LOL . eweeeeeeee the “feds” how goddamn scarry
July 18th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Where in the Constitution is power granted to the US Government to create it’s own police forces? I know they can have a military but all these alphabet police forces are like an affront to liberty,they are stormtroopers.Check up on Federal police forces armaments at worldinventory-world small arms inventory,so many federal agencies are armed to the teeth.Of course the question is why?
Amazed Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Obviously because their right to bear arms shall not be infringed. You should be cheering them on for exercising their 2nd Amendment rights.
Josh F Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
I’m amazed by your stupidity.
July 18th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Does anyone know what level body armor will stop handloaded 7mm 140gr fmjbt at 3400 fps muzzle velocity?
Mark Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
I know that if ya loading and casting your own bullets even at 1200 fps if ya place a drop of mercury inside a wadcutter and fine layer of lead on top will penetrate all armour and if it even nicks them Dr will say nothing I can do
Griz Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Interestingly enough, I looked that up a while ago. The BATFE makes the standards, interestingly enough. Class IIIA with a trauma plate may or may not stop it, depending on range to target. Class 4 will come close to stopping it all the time, but it’s hell to wear in battle as it’s a ceramic plate type armor. When in doubt, take a kneecap out or go for the head to be sure they’re dead.
Griz Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 11:32 am
OOPS! I was wrong. NIJ maintains the standards. They are available here as a link to a .PDF document. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/nij/pubs-sum/223054.htm
July 18th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
BATFE is target #1 when the SHTF. They have harassed innocent citizens, murdered children, and enforced Constitutionally illegal laws for too long! LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION and THE SECOND AMENDMENT, TO HELL WITH THE ENTIRE BATFE!!!
July 18th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Oh those sonsofbitches!! I am so sick of the feds breaking our constitutional rights! They are the terrorists!!
July 18th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
I see this all panning out like this, the state of Tennessee will have to bend to the Fed, or they will threaten to cut off it’s funding. If threats won’t work, they will pull all their funding till either Tennessee bends to their will, or they leave the union.
I’d bet the State and the People of Tennessee will resist, until the money is cut off.
I hope they fight the good fight, but if it’s like most things, he who controls the money, controls the government…
Josh F Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Well, let them cut off the funding then. I got TN’s back and as we’ve all read, many others do as well. I’d have no problem bringing up lots of supplies for people as well as running supplies into and out of the state. As far as the feds trying to set up blockades… exactly how many people do they think they have??
Tennessee is still big enough that there’s ways into and out of the state without using roads or rivers. 
Amazed Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
I think the Feds should come in and blow up all of the Interstes and US Hwys that go through Tenessee. The y should cut off all access to the other 49 staes and deny air or water access to the state. We will then see what the “Patriots” are made of…
The Feds should also impose economic sanctions on any company that attempts to do business in Tennessee. Then Tn can be its own little world. But it will be a world with guns…heaven if you will.
Madman Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
If the Fed tries to do that crap to Tennessee, I can see many angry men and women going to war with said Government.
Tennessee isn’t too far away from NC, so if the revolution starts, don’t start without me.
July 18th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
People its all over. Its End Game.The best thing to do is to be ready. I think they have their eyes on the last empire Vatican City.
July 18th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
remember wars lead to death and people who lives through it to wish they had died too.
spud Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
not the winners!!
MP Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 4:33 am
War is hell, but slavery is far worse
Prescott Steve Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Hey Kid, Is there nothing worth fighting for?
Josh F Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
True. But in the end, everyone has to fight for what they believe in and for the world they want left behind when they are gone for their children’s future. So.. tell me.. do you want your children or your family left to deal with these events? or do you want to do what you can to help their future out? That’s where you make your decision.
July 18th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
“It will be interesting to see how Tennessee reacts to this official proclamation.”
Hopefully with their own declaration of independence from the USA.
July 18th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Americans who wish to use firearms should join the Military. Ordinary citizens don’t need guns, as their having guns don’t serve the State
Jerry Mark Brinkman, Terre Haute, IN Reply:
July 18th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
Princess, The State has nothing to do with individuals right to own firearms, & yes, ordinary citizens do have a need for guns, it’s called self-protection & as also written in the constitution,
to use said weapons to stop any tyranny from both without & within OUR country. Originally, the militia was formed from all citizens aged 18-45, except those who were forbidden by their religious beliefs & the politicians whose job was to serve through their political actions. Every person was required to supply his own weapon & the proper amount of powder & ball for his rifle.
I am guessing you to be a liberal, with the main difference between the liberal & the conservative is that the liberal hasn’t been mugged, raped, beaten, or had a family member murdered yet; after which their attitudes will change for the self protection of themselves & their family & friends.
MP Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 4:40 am
She`s worse than a liberal…She is either a brainwashed NWO and eugenics supporter or she is on here to piss people off.
Amazed Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
So your saying all conservatives are victims of violent crimes? That certainly would explain the paranoia…
Jerry Mark Brinkman, Terre Haute, IN Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Amazed,
No SHEEPLE BRAIN, part of what I was saying was the fact that conservatives tend to be far less likely to become victims of violent crimes simply because we are smart enough to own, become competent with, and willing to use against the WOLVES who prey on you SHEEPLE with regularity. By the way, we SHEEPDOGS are getting tired of protecting your asses and wish you SHEEPLE would wise up and start saving yourselves! BTW, I have had a CCW permit and carried a handgun for over 40 years now, while having to actually draw it on 4 occasions to protect either myself or another person, I have never HAD TO FIRE it in anger toward a WOLF.
Amazed Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 9:52 am
5 years of SF has left me more than able to protect myself. By the way, someone with the intelligence of a sheepdog probably wouldn’t be much help anyway. They’re very easy to distract with shiny objects or Rush Limbaugh playing on a speaker.
Most people that own a handgun are more dangerous to themselves than any would be attacker. The targets at the gun range aren’t trying to avoid being hit. Also, generally the shooter doesn’t have to overcome the adrenlin surge from “fight or flight” at the range. Pulling a firearm will scare of the uninitiated “wolf” but will just end up getting you killed by the wiser “wolves”.
Josh F Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Wow… unintelligent and definitely a sheep comment.
Take a look at Switzerland.
90% of the country is armed.
Hitler even avoided going there.
Take a hint.
The right to bear and maintain arms is to protect ourselves so that we would not have to submit to another American Revolution. If every citizen is armed the feds have no power to come in. Or at least that’s what the forefathers intended.. however they could not have seen the chemical warfare and nuclear weapons that plague us today.
Technically for us all to be safe, we’d have to have the right to bear and maintain our own chemical weapons, tanks, automatic rifles and nuclear weapons. That’s the only way for the checks and balances that our forefathers intended.
Now believe me. I in now way believe that everyone should have these crazy weapons. But, I believe that if things were to get out of hand, we should have the same capabilities to fight back as our government could use against us.
Go ahead and disagree.. I’m just stating simple strategics.
So… for you to say that a citizen doesn’t need to have a gun.. well.. that’s just unintelligent.
Please.. think before you speak.
Leading on sheep ideas is NOT a good thing.
Amazed Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Hitler avoided going to Switzerland because even the Nazi’s needed international bankers.
Josh F Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
hahaha yeah, I suppose that’s probably a lil true as well.
but if he owned everything, he wouldn’t need them anymore.
Funny thought tho.
Madman Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
People who wish to rise up against the Usurpers, and in that, know they may have to rise up again the Military and Police State that protests the tyrants in charge, should have every right to bear arms, as it is said in the Constitution. The second amendment wasn’t put in there so bubba could buy a uzi, it was so, when the government was overthrown, or taken over by banks, a usurper, or tyrants, that we, the American People, would be able to stand ready, and shoot the bastards.
Madman Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Protects, not protest… my bad.. wish you could edit your post on here, once posted, for grammatical issues, but oh well.
July 18th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
I have this plan if it ever comes to a hot war. I dont have any firearms but im as big as a boxcar and if anyone sticks a gun in my face its either A: im gonna die or B: i will assault them and take their weapons. one kick to the balls can take down the biggest roid head there is remember that fellow patriots with no guns. NO FEAR! Let the attackers supply you with firearms its that simple. Oh yeah im proud to say i live in Tennesse and my ancestors all kicked butt and chewed bubble gum. Steel toed boot to the balls people. Dont go register you a firearm thats the first idiots they gonna swat team or just outright murder. If you are registered they know you, they know where you live!
Madman Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Bows and Arrows, baseball bats, rocks, knives, daggers, swords, a good lead pipe, fight with anything you have… and then, claim the spoils of war, your enemy’s rifle, pistol, gear etc.
That’s how we should all roll, Hank. Sometimes, your gun isn’t going to be handy… and if we follow Murphy’s law, that will be when the Jackbooted thugs will choose to attack.
A dagger will penetrate body armor, but stab for the UNDERARM, a nice juicy vein there… and very little protection.
If you have a gun, shoot for the GROIN, the HEAD, the Throat, the Kidney’s, the mouth, and the Knees.
I still say, that no matter if you have a gun or not, you can go to most rifle ranges, and practice, with their guns, aka a rental, and get good with a variety of guns, even if you don’t want to buy one, you can still do some time on the range, and get proficient with a few guns, just in case.
July 18th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
from what i understand—these new ‘federal’ police agencies that have been formed since 1972—were specifically created for the sole purpose of undermining u.s. sovereignty–to instill u.n. type policies on the american people/…
you got ice,atf,homeland security—all set up to try to take out america–
maybe by careful dialogue with our representatives,state govts,local cops—-etc…
we can dismantle those groups without any violence or anything—
hillbilly sunrise///what a great thing that could be—-nice and easy
July 18th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
It’s simple…SECEDE!
July 18th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
The Feds do NOT and ARE NOT in possession of the authority or power to make that determination! As far as the RESISTANCE is concerned….the ATF can go f--- off!!!! You can’t control the underground market f---ers!!!!!
The Constitution is LAW SUPREME!!! The FEDS are just stuffing for body bags!!!!!!!!
July 18th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
I’ve got an idea. Let’s see which was made first…
Than that might tell us exactly when they started being hypocrites and seeking more power. I mean, honestly. You think that the Federal Government should run on that massive of a scale? Hm… You will probably not ever be “hunted”.
Re-read the Constitution, The Bill of Rights AND the Declaration of Independence. Then come back and talk to me.
I’ve read all three and done several flyers based upon my findings. I researched and read extensively for my views and well, frankly, you’re very wrong sir. Even if the Constitution were actually to give that representation, the PEOPLE, my friend, are what matter.
July 18th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
If Tennesee does not prevaile, in thier quest for freedom under the constitution, well, I have great fear. The constitution IS worth fighting for boys, try ALL peacefull means first. But, at some piont Americans will have to either take a stand, draw a line, or forever our freedoms lost.
I pray God we stay a free society. Much has been lost, but there is still this thuing we call America, and it is very much alive. I would let ur local law enforement know you are all patriots, and C.Y.A.And convince law enforement that you are not the problem, but the solution. Let that local cop know your weapon will be there to defend him too, after all, we as Americans are to be brothers, this is gonna get very interesting.
July 18th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
you idiots with guns can’t kill Satan when he brings hell onto earth you will find out your gun will be worthless junk .. Alex is a man of the world he puts no faith in God .. Alex is just a Neocon HATER .. aGENT FOR sATAN
MP Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 4:47 am
Go smoke some more sea weed dude…We got GOD, GUNS, GUTS, and American trucks
MP Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 4:55 am
And we know bullets aint gonna stop Satan…….Got a two edged sword for that guy….LOL…
Seriously, do you really think we`re that stupid…….Most of us here realize that the lord will have to take care of that!
TheGhost Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 6:37 am
HEIL SATAN!!!
Prescott Steve Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 8:58 am
No but we can fight and take down some of him dumbass agents (people). Or would you prefer us neglect such a great responsibility to resist and do nothing. Idiot!
Josh F Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
AHAHAHAHA
lol oh wait.. let me rephrase that..
Technically, you’re right. Satan would not be killed by our guns… however… let him send his little human ghoulies after me because I can guarantee that my .45 and their face won’t like each other.
July 18th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
This is awesome…. this is exactly what we want to happen, now the state of Tenn. can sue the federal government and open a supreme court battle. This is a big win for us.
July 18th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
We are no longer a land of laws, but a land of consequences.
Prescott Steve Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:02 am
You should rename yourself “Kid Stupidity”. We have the Constitution, just because the polititions don’t recognize it doesn’t mean we don’t.
July 18th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
I’m really glad to hear about the brave folks in Tennessee. As a sovereign state they have the right to pass this law, and good for them!
I hope Tennessee becomes a great manufacturing center for all sorts of fire arms. ( I’d like a good old fashion Thompson machine gun on the market once again ). I’ll worry about sneaking it across the border. Hell, they can’t blockade the whole state!
As for the thugs at the BATF and E. If they try to interfere or harass any citizen of Tennessee, well, just dump their bodies on Obongos, or who ever the hell he is, door step. Then maybe he’ll get the massage that he is not the king of this nation.
LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION! ONE STATE AT A TIME!
July 18th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Anyone who registers their firearms or any other weapons they have is a fool. Do you think the bad guys who rob the convenience stores at 1:00 AM bother to register their guns? Heck no and most of the time they never get caught or if they do their out on the street in less than a year on parole. Sorry for the poor comparison but if you register your firearms you might has well turn them in now rather than wait for the knock at the door. Always remember the power to licence is the power to reclaim and deny you your rights.
July 18th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
good for tennessee! the people of this need to close down all federal offices and if atf, fbi and other federals come in bring out the state police and national guard as well as civilians to stop them from closing down gun stores and entering peoples homes to take their guns.
Gary Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 2:05 am
LOL. You people never read beyond the headlines, and if you do, you never comprehend what you’re reading. You never THINK beyond the headlines and soundbites. If Tennessee is serious about protecting its gun owners, why is it not protecting ALL of them? Only a handful of Tennessee’s gun owners own guns and ammo made in Tennessee. That leaves the vast majority of Tennessee gun owners unprotected.
Another law Tennessee passed, last year, supposedly “protects” Tennessee gun owners from the horrible scourge of microstamping. Well, not exactly. What the law actually does is outlaw the sale in Tennessee of all microstamped guns and ammo. So, when microstampig becomes widespread, there will effectively be no more guns and ammo for sale in the entire state of Tennessee. If only microstamped guns and ammo are being made, in the near future (as is the plan), then there will be no new guns and ammo available in Tennessee.
Now, why would Tennessee, one of the states that is supposedly “declaring sovereignty” do this? Well, if you believe a state that has four FEMA camps within its borders is somehow going to “declare sovereignty” from the federal government that put those camps there, you might want to rethink that.
TheGhost Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 6:41 am
exactly, i wouldnt count on the state govt to continue to back people us, they pander for votes and know what the people like to hear.. the thing is if people just have some balls then it wont matter if the state caves
TheGhost Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 6:42 am
*back the people up, damn what am i on
July 19th, 2009 at 12:51 am
Seriously guys, all this talk about shooting feds/police/ATF ect. is NOT cool/patriotic/sensible/romantic or anything like that. Do you really want to shoot it out with your fellow americans? That would be horrible, just absolutely devastating. Just who in the hell are most of you guys anyway? Have any of you ever even been in the military, police, national guard? I have, and let me tell you something, something that you do not seem to get. These public servants are your nextdoor neighbors, your uncles, someones dad. I’m willing to bet that those who have been tasked to do what you seem to think is going to happen, would not even consider it in the first place. This is not a damn video game people. So why don’t you dial it down a few notches. If it ever comes to having to defend your life, property, or those in your family, then yes, fine, that IS your right as an American citizen. If the president, or some higher up gives an unlawful order, I sincerely doubt that any State Police/Sheriff/Local Police ect. would be so inclined to follow through on it. They know the law one hell of alot better than apparently most of you do. Why don’t you give them a little more credit? Your comments lead me to believe that you think that cops/sheriffs FBI ect. have no brains, no ability to reason, and will just blindly follow orders that do not make sense, and are not within the confines of legal reason. I’ll put my money on them to do the right thing if our nation starts falling apart. There are thousands of god fearing, good people who hold positions of authority, and I would like to think that they are on the side of the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights. And if for some reason, some of them overstep certain bounds, and violate our God given rights, well then, I guess we hope for a peaceful outcome, and just in case, stay prepared. Hell, I’m more worried about radical muslim terrorists, than I am about anything else.
Josh F Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 3:23 am
I was in the military. I’ve seen how screwed up it’s become as well. My father was in the Navy for quite some time and hates that the entire military has become a lot of pansies. But to say that it’s O.K. for them to trample our rights and freedoms for some greater peace is BS and everyone should realize that. I hate to bring up a movie but V for Vendetta showed that exact flawed thinking.
I realize that it’s not a video game. And people shouldn’t want to have to fire at anyone. However, if it comes to these people choosing their side and taking a stand.. which side are YOU on?
oldenough Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 11:27 am
What side am I on? Hell, thats easy, I took my oath, and I will stand by it forever. I just don’t take things lightly, no “knee-jerk” posts. I know what is right, I know what a smoke screen is, and you can damn well believe I’m prepared to ensure the survival of my family, as well as my country. Does that answer your question?
Josh F Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Yeah it does. As long as you understand what’s actually going on than I support your view. I am worried about the people who are getting into this not knowing what they are really doing as well… but when the time comes I won’t hesitate on putting my trigger and front sight post to use.
MP Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 5:20 am
Oldenough, the last thing i want to do is shoot it out with anyone, much less my fellow Americans in law enforcement.
There are some LEO`s that have been thoroughly brainwashed to do what they are told, whether it goes against the constitution or not.
I have been a witness to it many times.
My hope and prayers are that all Americans join the OATHKEEPERS, especially LEO`s, and get this country back on the right track again….If your not familiar with the Oathkeepers, then google it, join up, and spread the word to all of your friends in law enforcement, and/or military, even if they are retired, and tell them that “WE THE PEOPLE” are fed up with the fed, trying to take our rights and overiding our beloved constitution…GOD BLESS
TheGhost Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 6:49 am
im more scared of the cop living down the street than i am of muslim terrorists 13,000 miles away accepting drug money from the CIA and posing for “terrorist” pictures.. dont count on these peope all collectively rising up and saying no, thats f---ing naive.. they are going to do what the persons beside them do, if no one wants to be the first one, there wont be anyone, and theyll do exactly what theyre told, we already watched troops disarming people in new orleans, and those of us who’ve dealt with the police (i was beaten and mugged while i slept in my car, take a guess as to who did it) know exactly what theyll do, quite frankly i think you people are very good hearted but very naive of the situation
Crito Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 7:45 am
Nazis here at home pose a much greater threat to my liberty and than any “terrorists” abroad.
oldenough Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
The Ghost:
So you were beaten up and mugged by “police”? You must of had a bag of Skittles or something good like that. LOL
Where did terrorist 13,000 miles away come from? Are you not aware of the thousands that have assimilated themselves amongst us?
Crito Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 7:41 am
Either George Washington was a domestic terrorist or sometimes violence is the only answer.
Josh F Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
AMEN to THAT CRITO!
Prescott Steve Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Hey Oldenough, Maybe I was in the military, maybe I wasn’t, but I’m not going to anounce it to you on this website. You might be a SHILL. Who are we? you ask. We’re Americans who were born here, and many of us are simply venting because so many FBI, ATF, IRS agents who have taken an oath to uphoald the constitution are doing the opposite because they love the power. Many of them deserve what people talk about doing to them just like a lot of treasonous polititions deserve to be hung. So quite defending the criminals and leave us Americans alone. OK!
July 19th, 2009 at 1:26 am
Great post from everyone. All the states or most..i doubt the liberals from california will
need to tell Obama where to go. Tell Obama we dont want you no more.
Can some of the great people of Texas let me know what is happening there.
Are they going to state their state’s rights. or cecede.
How about Nevada, Texas and TN , Vermont and others joinging together
against the Fed and Obama.
Amazed Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
This country survived 8 yrs of W… we should be ok
July 19th, 2009 at 1:56 am
http://www.americasrepublicmilitia.net
Arm & Organize today!
July 19th, 2009 at 1:57 am
Militia∙Talk∙Radio http://FreemanRadio.com
July 19th, 2009 at 1:59 am
NULLIFICATION time!!!!!
July 19th, 2009 at 4:05 am
Does it really matter if it’s fake? It does ! … why, what are you going to do about? He will finish his term…. and the people will have NOTHING to say about it.
July 19th, 2009 at 4:33 am
The second amendment means that the federal gov’t will not intervene in or regulate guns among the states. The federal gov’t cannot prevent the people from owning fire-arms.
Carson needs to move to Europe, or maybe Red China. His efforts to remake America in his own image will not succeed.
Amazed Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Can you own a howitzer or missile system? If you want one…aren’t your “Rights” being infringed? Do you advocated no limits on the weaponry an individual citizen can own?
Josh F Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Technically, you’re correct.
Lucky guess!
And you’re correct because… technically in order to maintain a militia capable of defending ourselves against our own government, we should be able to purchase automatic weapons, grenades, explosives, nuclear devices, and much more.
The reason why no gun rights people fight for those is because WHEN THE BILL OF RIGHTS WAS DRAFTED WE DIDNT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT!
Thank you…
and read a FRIGGIN BOOK!
July 19th, 2009 at 5:00 am
According to my copy of the Constitution They cannot do that as it says that the power of the government is granted by the state and that any power not granted to them belongs to the state.
July 19th, 2009 at 6:15 am
yeah dude, they just teach it that way to condition us
July 19th, 2009 at 7:16 am
A CHILLING RULING!
In NRA v. City of Chicago & Village of Oak Park, Illinois, the 3-Judge Appeals Panel for the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals–Judges Frank Easterbrook, Richard Posner and William Bauer–ruled in June 2009 that handgun prohibition must be allowed so that self-defense could be banned:
“Suppose a state were to decide that people cornered in their homes must surrender rather than fight back–in other words, that burglars should be deterred by the criminal law rather than self help. That decision would imply that no one is entitled to keep a handgun at home for self-defense, because self-defense would itself be a crime, and Heller concluded that the Second Amendment protects only the interests of law-abiding citizens…Our hypothetical is not as far-fetched as it sounds.”
The NRA has appealed to the US Supreme Court, expected to decide whether or not to take the case this fall.
July 19th, 2009 at 7:35 am
Folks I still say that a million man march on DC from gun owners (80 million of us) as a show of strength is the answer. Let’s face it that is what DC needs to act on anything, a show of the people, polls (80% against TARP in October is not REAL enough) and phone calls are meaningless. A march down the Capitol Mall by 1,000,000 gunowners would be enough to send a very clear message. A million people in DC in September for a TEA protest; when they see that many pissed off people they actually feel fear, that number of people can really raise hell.
Can you imagine just 1,000 people showing up to see Alexander and Corker, walking in the office, one thousand people crying out that they are not being represented fairly. Now make that 10,000 surrounding the Tennessee offices of the senators…. that would scare the piss out of anyone! The freaking national guard would be called out against the people exercising their right to a peaceful protest. Let’s do this and show the world that China is not the ONLY county that can stomp on the citizens airing grievances against the state!
Do you realize that the NRA and the 3 million members has 10 times the membership of NOW and likely the largest group of private citizens organized for political purposes, yet they are often ignored because they cannot be seen; or felt. The teachers unions only boast 4 million members nationally but they are strong and vocal; that is the key!
Join a group, take a day off, make your voice heard. A peaceful fight is needed NOW to prevent the few that are willing to take the fight to the streets later from having to do so.
ACTION(S) SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS ~ get motivated and actually DO something.
Prescott Steve Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:17 am
With, or without guns?
Griz Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Yes.
July 19th, 2009 at 8:17 am
It is high time for a Secessionist Party in every state. The Cumberland flag no longer applies. The join or die was a great movement when the enemy was outside this country (England), but when it is the federal government then we must divide to regain the strengths the founding fathers exposed to an oppressed world. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are the tenets that our government must act as enablers on our behalf to achieve otherwise when they are contrary to good morals and sound judgment then we have the right and duty to break free of those shackles. The Tea Party protests were a good effort, but they are doomed to fail when they are hidden in parks and out of sight. A truly pissed off “taxpayer” would be in your face shouting to the tallest buildings with bull horns and blocking streets. We need a “Lady Godiva” movement of naked people getting press attention. We need to protest in the parking lot of every local t.v. studio and radio studio across this country. We need to make it impossible for IRS and BATF scum agents to go to work without fearing for their lives.
We need to take signs to the schools where national press “corpse”, BATF, and IRS agents have their kids and when their kids go out to recess they need to be able to read their daddies names on those signs that we know who their daddies are and that they daddies will go home in a body bag if they piss us off!
July 19th, 2009 at 8:58 am
just poison all authorities they way they poison you mind and body
cook at the restaurant, that mushroom was bad?
The congressman before he died, claimed it the tastiest he ever had
July 19th, 2009 at 8:59 am
LICENSE = Government’s permission to do something that government has made it illegal to do without it’s permission.
The letter was written to those who have (applied for) FFL, not to the State of Tennessee. When you apply for a license you agree to dance to the tune of the government entity that issued it to you. If Tennessee wants to circumvent the feds it will have to issue in-state licenses for the manufacture and sale of firearms made and sold within the state of Tennessee. Current holders of FFL’s will have to be excluded from any in-state license.
July 19th, 2009 at 9:37 am
This issue was covered in 1860. When States thought and held state conventions, and voted in state houses to ratfiy and pass “ordeniance of secssion” in each state house. Lawfully I might add.The same things was said then too.
July 19th, 2009 at 9:44 am
George Washington hated his country. That’s why he had to create a better one.
July 19th, 2009 at 9:47 am
News headline: Americans declare Fed invalid, and proceed to take a big s--- in the BAFT’s cornflakes. LOL
JT Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
LOL
July 19th, 2009 at 9:49 am
That is why the Confederate battle flag is signifigant. I remind those of “necessary arrogance” that we as a peaple have been here before and have not forgotton. The numbers then where over a million. Now, I would dare say, 80 million.
July 19th, 2009 at 10:17 am
George W. Bush so infamously deemed it during his reign as the decider-in-chief. IS NOTHING MORE THAN.. A TRAITOR. ALL LAWS, PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVES SINCE ABOUT THE TIME OF JOHN F KENNEDY, ARE TREASONOUS ACTS AND SHOULD “NOT” BE FOLLOWED. ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT, ALL MILITARY NEED ARREST AND OR HANG “ANY” OF THOSE THAT WOULD ORDER YOU TO FOLLOW THOSE ACTS OF TREASON. I SHALL REFUSE “ANY” ILLEGAL COMMAND ISSUED TO ME, I SHALL TAKE NO VACCINATION, NOR WILL I HERD OFF TO ANY DAMN CAMP! I SHALL DIE ON MY FEET RATHER THAN LIVE A SLAVE ON MY KNEES!
July 19th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Just another example of why the Feds should kiss my ass.
josh Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:57 am
got that right, mr. megaton.
You know, in the buildup to the revolution the patriots were known to put out anti-British propaganda, including little British and American toy figures (similar to Cowboy and Indian Toys)…
Where’s my patriot action figures?
TruthbeTold Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Just go buy yourself a G.I. Joe figure it should suffice just fine…. i think Obobo was deprived as a child and dint get his G.I. Joe so now he is using our military as his fantasy play set ” OH look mom so kool a whole brigade in one pack can I have it please”
Michel Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Stop calling me mom damnit
July 19th, 2009 at 10:41 am
It would be wonderful if the State of Tennessee would respond forcefully…but, I doubt if that will be the case. The Nashville politicians are more than likely just pushing the electorates buttons tgrying to muster voter support for the same old Demopublican gang that commands every state house in the country. When they escort the BATF agents to the state line, then we’ll have something beyond eyewash.
They are just tackling emotive issues in a way to win the confidence of Tennesseans…which they will betray as surely as Obama is betraying the working people, anti-war people and anti-Establishmentarians who were gullible enough to waste their vote on him.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Any of these scoundrels that say the Constitution is just a piece of paper are traitors to their ancestors and their country. The constitution was paid for with property, families, pain, suffering, and the death of many courageous people. The unconstitutional laws are the items that fall into the category of just being a piece of paper. Just because a unconstitutional law is blessed by a judge who is in league with those leading us to destruction does not change reality. Our hope lies in the people being willing to step out of the box that has been designed for us and learning the truth. Since education is behind the power curve at this time I believe that becoming informed about the constitution and the monetary system should be sufficient to arouse people to say no.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:22 am
if this movement is about now violence why so much talk about being prepare? s--- why buy something if your never going to use it, just a though, how much more are we willing to take? if we don’t hit the streets soon we will be on our knees licking there asses.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:29 am
watch those stinkin feds swarm tennesee in their white tinted vans lookin to stage a terror attack. dont let me catch any of you traitors in my state setting up s---. Speaking of which i have noticed two trucks that said demolitions on it in the past couple of days i have NEVER seen this company before here. I bet these bastards will do something. “OH MY GOD AL QUEDA ATTACKED THE WAFFLE HOUSE WE GOTTA BAN GUNS HERE TO KEEP YOU SAFE!”
July 19th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Abraham Lincoln was a violent man who sent Americans to kill Americans. He should have resolved his dispute with the south peacefully instead of acting like a domestic terrorist.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:36 am
We do live in a republic of states. The Federal government does have a say so in the laws. But according to the constitution, the state overules the fed. Aht lest thuts whut I thunk.
In order for people that think the same way as many of us do in this forum to really have an affect on the opinion of people, we need to BOMBARD the talk shows of other places. CSPANs Washington Journal is a great place. Call them up and be respectful but forceful of your opinions. Also be knowledgable of the topic you speak of.
The old axiom of divide and conquer is on the way to fruition once again in this part of the earth. Lets stop it.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Looks like the Tennesseans have just been deprived of liberty without due process of law.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:39 am
http://www.sheriffmack.com/ just as well as try to get good sheriff’s elected and involved in freedom, the sheriff seems to have power to kick the fed’s out so f%#! the batf lock and load
July 19th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Makes me proud to be a Tennessean, we are going in first. Wyoming passed a similar law this spring. Has anybody heard anthing about the Fedsicles dening their rights as well as ours.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
I’m LOVING it! You traitorous secessionists need to quit confusing tyranny with YOUR SIDE LOSING THE ELECTION!
Josh F Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
ahaha and you need to stop thinking we’re traitorous when you’re the ones that are going to ruin this country. People like you should just move to China or something and leave this country to the people who want it and want it the way it was meant to be.
hahaha loser.
Mark Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
You are a f---ing idiot We were tired of this government and the laws they been making for more then 20 years
you dont got the brains God gave a goose Personaly I think Bush and Obama should be tried for treason at same time so no one can claim predjudice
They both sold out country to line thier pockets
oldenough Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Ken Darren:
Your lack of original thought does not surprise me. That “talking point” (”talking points” originate from the Clinton era thanks to Carl Rove “the architect”) that you make regarding “us” losing the election is so overused I can hardly stand it. Just because Obama won the election does not give him and his administration the right divide the nation into two classes, or pass laws that insure the inception, and continuation of a Nanny State. Obama has communist ideologies that are manifesting themselves into legislation that fulfills those ideologies. He is being allowed to get away with this, due in part to brainless wonders such as yourself. You will cry foul, only after it is way too late. Then, and only then, will you come crawling to real americans such as myself, and some others on this site. You will beg us to stand up to the tyranny that you “joke” about. To stand up and make things “like they used to be”. Oh sure, you think I’m just another idiot, that you are intellectually far superior to the likes of me and others that don’t conform to your flawed thinking.
See ya in about 14 months. Just wonder how things will pan out for someone as physically, and emotionally illprepared as you most likely are.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
People of Tennessee, disregard these federal scum. It’s time to stand up and JUST SAY NO!!!
http://www.tolfa.us
July 19th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Feds claim to control gun sales through the Interstate Commerce Clause. Well, if it ain’t going out of the state then it is not covered by this clause in my opinion.
Jason the Fed
July 19th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Owning a gun is a “Natural Right”? So, you don’t like states’ rights “absolutists” or “Fed Lovers”…let me guess…any position you agree with should be unassailable by any authority.
July 19th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Reminds me of a teenager born way after the houses of the neighborhood were built & the families grew gardens, & this young kid (a neighborhood bully) decides to makes a lemon aid stand & wear a suit to sell lemon aid to the neighborhood. He gets his friends to tear down the other lemon aid stands down the street so he has no competition, then he demands that noone in the whole neighborhood is allowed to buy lemonaid anywhere else except from him only.
July 19th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Hello
Was wondering if there is an action plan other than trying to play catch up by waking people up to the truth?
I.E. once they are awake then what? They tend to feel like there is nothing they can do…
Thanks
July 19th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
GO TO HELL US GOVMNT!
GOT IT??????????
I will stick it in you face!GOT IT US GOVMNT???
I am DONE AND FED UP..
FROM HERE ITS WAR ON YOU!
July 19th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
screw it make the guns somewhere else, we need more Tennessee whiskey!! if the south woulda won we’d have it made, what this world needs is a few more rednecks!
July 19th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
where’d my homie “Hillbilly Jihad & The Bubba Liberation Front” go to?? did the feds get you?
dipsquat Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
He is no hillbilly, he lives in toledo ohio and retired from a railroad that is based in the south.
moon Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
thats fine i dont care where he lives and what he did for a living he had some great posts!
July 19th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
I live in Vermont and our state would just accept the Federal government letter.
July 19th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Opps…I would call my reps and letters would be a flying.
July 19th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
He who lives by the sword, will die by the sword.
July 19th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
He who lives by the sword, shall die by the sword
July 19th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
please take to supreme court //then declare independence/if it not work /f the government corruption
July 19th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
The governor should give the Federal Goverment and their workers in the state if Tennessee fair warning, that if they try to interfere with sovereign state law, they will be arrested for treason. Have State Troopers serve them the notice that the governor means business. However, I don’t think any governor in these united States have the guts to stand up for the rights of the people. We will see though….
Deena Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
How about you give all the extra money back that Tennessee gets from the Fed — you get more $$ than you pay in taxes. Once you pay it all back, then you can talk about stupid stuff.
do it everyday Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
dips---
do it everyday Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
you know anything about ALL the MONIES THE IRS HAS BEEN STEALING SINCE 1913????
July 19th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
I’m from Ohio, Born & Raised, With Causins, In Your Great State.
SECESSION, Is the right thing to do!
So says ” a decal on my, Rifle Case.
& If Your State Would Secede, & Ohio doesn’t?
I’ll be There , If Your State Would Have Me.
SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS!
DEO VINDICE!
July 19th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
the non-united states federal reserve government just made itself guilty of treason again and further discredited itself as a legitimate government.
the republic of lakota is more legitimate than the non-united states federal reserve government.
July 19th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Looks like a early and extra long hunting season this year.
July 19th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Ok guys,
Been sitting here mulling over a few posts directed at me. Most were respectful, some were not. It seems that my mentioning my concern regarding radial muslims was shot down as naive, unfounded. You know, the “13,000 miles away” garbage. Hence I feel compelled to present my reasoning.
al-Qaida currently owns approximately 80 seagoing vessels/freighters. They also have at their disposal, a number of crude/outdated missiles (at the very least). They have been on a quest to obtain nuclear warheads for sometime. As to whether they have obtained such weapons, that cannot be ruled out. If al-Qaida were to position a vessel off the shore of the US, in international waters, they could launch the nuclear tipped missle over mainland US. The goal would not be to target a specific city, but to detonate in mid-air. Once launched, they sink said delivery vessel, thus eliminating the evidence of said vessel. They would not have the need for advanced targeting technology, just a missile that would carry the nuke into the air and activate the triggering device.
Once detonated, the ensuing Electro Magnetic Pulse would take out at least one third of our electrical grid, much of our communications, countless electronic devices, and hundreds of thousands of vehicles. First responders would be all but paralyzed. This event could activate hundreds of terrorist cells allready inside our borders. Their objective would most likely be to take out pre-planned targets, and also targets of opportunity. Fuel, food, transportation, electricity, fire, ambulance service ect. would be severly limited.
Now the ragheads may have a few smart guys on their team, but I’m sure there are plenty of rogue nations that are working hand in hand with them. In short, EMP is most likely going to be used as the next “incident”. Lets just hope that we know who actually initiated the attack.
July 19th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
The United States Constitution is invalid because the authors of it are dead.
July 19th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
This problem we have in Washington is the same problem we have in the prison system. Too many criminals. The difference is the smart criminals/psychopaths are in D.C. and the not so smart ones are in prison. Also, there’s not much difference between the people being arrested and the people making the arrests in a lot of cases.
July 19th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Im not a government agent I just use a government ISP. It’s city cable so stop banning my posts.
July 19th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
let’s all draw a line in the sand for these mother f*#kers its now or never
PS:just ask your-self what would our FORE-FATHERS DO
July 19th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
This type of lawless scourge is crawling all across the country. The justice system is no more and this is proof of it.
July 19th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Rockefeller or Rothchilds are not the problem – it is your average joe white guy in uniform who is going to kill and enslave you!!
July 19th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Well… there’s that roving line in the sand again!
July 19th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
You are all crazy….quit complaining about things you have no control over
Josh F Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
hahaha wow… my friend… You just don’t understand. You’re right. We don’t have control anymore. That’s the problem.
And if it’s ever only one person, the media will spin everything around so that it makes the person to look crazy or completely nuts, but in fact they were just defending themselves against whatever aggression may have been directed their way.
What do you do when put in the situation where you have to either give away your rights or stand up and defend your rights? Which side do you stand on? And do you have the courage to continue to fight even when you know how they will make it sound if you are alone?
People converse about these things not only to inform others but to let people in the world know that they are not alone in their fight. If you have a problem with that… well… leave.
It doesn’t have to be a violent fight. It may be possible to do it without violence. However, that is looking more and more unlikely as events unfold. We just have to prepare ourselves to be there for our neighbors when the time comes. Regardless of Race, Religion, Sexual Preference or whatever. We are fighting for our right to our freedoms.
Just some food for thought.
July 19th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
I was called many things in the beginning…. Traitor, rebel, terrorist, criminal etc… We started with a few and became many.. My wish for my fellow patriots is that they do not wait until those led by greed and evil turn your feelings from dissapointment to fear, to sorrow for loved ones lost, to pure unadulterated rage…… My brothers in the south the movement and “shot heard around the world” will surely start in the south… It will also surely spread north and we will once again unite putting old differences aside as we fight for God and Liberty!!!! As the owner of this site has indicated; many movies and other propoganda have been put out there to soften us to what is coming. There have also been many movies to help us combat the effects of this propoganda… “Braveheart” and the yell of ” Freeeedom”, The “Patriot” and the loss of sons and daughters…”The Passion of the Christ” and what our LORD sacrificed for us…We are all brothers and sisters, no matter religion, color or creed!! Love one and another above all else, feed and protect your neighbor as the need arises…Remember always that the powers that attack and mislead you today…..Have been here always!!! Alex has pointed to this one weapon we have that cannot be defeated…..When our LORD GOD is with us; Nobody can stand against us….
July 19th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
It will come down to states breaking away from the imperialistic union. Most won’t.
July 19th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
ROFLOL. A bunch of ignorant couch potatoes who couldn’t get off the sofa to change a channel are going to rise up in rebellion. Don’t be silly.
July 19th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
BATF is bluffing…and they know it.
How long are we going to “Take” this kind of behavior?
Repeat after me…..
” I no longer recognize The “Federal Government” in Washington, District of Columbia as a lawful government, as it is in violation of the Constitution of The United States.
I call for the Dissolution of the “Federal Government” to be replaced by a Committee composed of the Governors of the 50 states until such time as a new government can formed.”
If only enough Americans would take that pledge….
Deena Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
This is all because of one black guy, isn’t it?
do it everyday Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
YOU REALLY ARE A DIPs---!
YOU REALLY HAD A BLACKOUT Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
AND “HE” IS AN ANGLO/MUSLIM less than 7% black but most voted for him because of his skin color HUH! SATAN IN BLACKFACE????????????? DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT ONE??????
oldenough Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 12:53 am
Ouch Deena, did not catch that one earlier. “All because of one Black Man”? Your other posts led me to believe that you would never go down that road. Can you please elaborate?
Someone touch a nerve that would cause you to pull the race card. You really seemed to be above such matters…………….
Glen2Gs Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 3:56 am
It’s NOT about Obama….It’s about the Oligarchs/Banksters that he fronts for
Mark Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Only one problem with that and that is they would then have to pay off less people
I say we make committee of working class people and give military soley to each state Each state should have 50 on committee to vote on important matters and members of committee should continue to work at regular job
In this way we get rid of congress Senate and get laws made as we want them
Glen2Gs Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
What kind of transitional government replaces the federal government isn’t nearly as important…
Getting People to no longer recognize The “Federal Government” as a lawful government, as it is in violation of the Constitution of The United States
If we could get enough people call for the Dissolution of the “Federal Government” ..we could put them “on the run”
July 19th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Save your confederate money boys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 19th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
I can’t believe there are people out there in this world who are so deluded that they think they can just secede from the US and go on with life as they know it.
Hey, Tennesee. You get MORE money from the Federal Government than you put in!
So, yea, go ahead, secede, save us some money. What, you want a passage to the ocean? You’ll have to talk to the USA about that.
You people are plain old dumb.
Mark Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Deena you are a f---ing idiot Texas has it written in contract that we can at any time leave the union if we are unhappy and Texas is unhappy
A contract is a contract whether USA likes it or not and you would be wise to start fighting those stealing money that your childrens children wont be able to pay back the crooks in government
Deena Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
I said “Hey Tennessee”…and you come back talking about Texas, and I’m the idiot?
Me, I’m ALL for Texas seceding if they want to. I think Texas’ vast and well- standing professional armies would be able to do wonders against hungry Mexico’s ability to sniff dead meat just north of their border.
do it everyday Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Well Deena with two E’s. What do you ACTUALLY NEED FROM A ROUGE SATAN WORSHIPING BUNCH OF BASTARDS ROBBING YOU BLIND WAITING ON YOU TO DIE TO PLUCK THE GOLD OUT OF YOUR TEETH? MORE OF WHAT YOU BEEN GETTING?
SOVREIGNTY IS NOT WHAT YOU SAY!!!!!!SECEDE?
Go ahead live your reality they created for you!
do it everyday Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
OH YA DEENA WHY DOES NOBAMA SEAL HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND WHY WERE HEADLINES IN AFRICAN PAPERS SAYING” NOBAMA RETURNS TO THE CONTINENT OF HIS BIRTH”?????????????????????? not to reflect on all other blondes but are you a blonde???
Deena Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Are you against states rights? YES OR NO??
The state of Hawaii has stated that Obama’s birth certificate is accurate and true, he was born in Honolulu as stated.
Are you questioning Hawaii’s sovereignity? YES OR NO? Do you believe a state has the right to issue and verify official, legally binding documents? Yes or no?
Someone’s feeding you panic-juice, dude, and you’re flipping out.
DEENA IS A DIPs--- FORGIVE HER Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
STILL A DIPs---
Karen Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
What were they hiding? Why wouldn’t they show the certificate?
YOU REALLY HAD A BLACKOUT Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
YUP YOUR A BLONDE
YOU REALLY HAD A BLACKOUT Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US KICK FED GOV AND FED RESERVE OUT AND GO TO FIRST TEN AMENDMENTS WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT?
O AND IF I HURT YOUR FEELINGS GO TELL NOBAMA TO PRESIDENTIAL DECREE CYBER BULLING ACT, THAT WILL SAVE US ALL TOO HUUH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Idiots spend a lot of time replying to their own posts Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Hurt my feelings?
Heh — you couldn’t hurt my feelings if you showed up with a “Bully” star on your chest, because it would fall off when you stopped to drool on your shoes.
I think you have a great idea about getting rid of the Federal Government. Why not make things really simple for aggressive nations to go and invade, and run over your home town? Do you think the rest of the world is puppies and unicorns, too?
Delusional.
Deena Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
My family served, lived and died under the US flag. I’m a patriot and from a long line of fighters.
I don’t know what you are, except that you should be ashamed, deeply, deeply ashamed of yourself if you think the way to solve our country’s problems is to threaten it.
DEENA IS A DIPs--- FORGIVE HER Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
not threatening my country DIPs---!
DEENA IS A DIPs--- FORGIVE HER Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
AND I HAVE A FLAG IN MY YARD FLYING UPIDE DOWN FOR 3 YEARS >>>ASK ME WHY?
Idiots don't know how to remove capslock Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
So, are you against states rights, yes or no?
Are you questioning Hawaii’s official statement on Obama’s birth certificate? Yes or no?
YOU REALLY HAD A BLACKOUT Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
LOOK ! lets just say I KNOW KENYANS IN THE U.S THAT STATE HE IS FROM “MY” “TRIBE” “I WAS THERE WHEN HE WAS BORN “!!!! WHAT MORE DO I NEED?
EVEN NOBAMAS AUNT AND GRANDMOTHER STATED HE WAS BORN IN KENYA.
Deena Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
So you’re saying that Hawaii is wrong, and that they’re somehow in a state-wide conspiracy to defraud people. Those newspapers that published Obama’s birth the week after he was born, that published from the official state health department list, they’re all in the conspiracy too. Oh, but Philip Berg says that some lady says that she was there when Obama was born, in Kenya. Riiight.
Karen Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Well, not everyone thinks it’s OK to take someone’s money and send it to someone else. I know the money you get from someone else is a big plus but it isn’t. Some people have character and principle.. Nothing is free. You pay BIG for everything you get free from the govt. You should be ashamed for celebrating taking money from someone else.
and big WHEW your family served in the military. Whose hasn’t?/. Too bad, though! They thought they were doing the right thing. They thought they were fighting for freedom. They were duped and died for fraudulent wars.
Deena Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
You say not everyone thinks it’s OK to take someone’s money and send it to someone else, but there are plenty of states out there that get more federal money than they put in. Are you one of those states? If you’r enot, do you disagree with sending more of your money out than you get back?
WWII was a fraudulent war? What are you smoking?
Josh F Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
I wish that more states would Secede. Think with your brain. The Feds shouldn’t be giving ANY states money. That’s not the way it should work and that’s WHY our economy sucks.
States should worry about themselves and if they ASK for money than that may be another story, but They should fend for themselves and let states trade between themselves without FEDERAL influence at all. The Feds are supposed to be our Defense and Information against other countries and be there to support IF we need it.
GeT EdUcAtEd
July 19th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
As early as 1945 our government proved how irresponsible they really were by testing a nuke in Arizona and they dont deny they didnt know if Anyone in the state would survive it
And somehow we are supposed to believe they are more responsible then we the people
and shouldnt own weapons like automatics or 50 cals
Well from the beginning governments have been responsible for 99.999 percent of killing
and mostly unjustified.Its time you men and women grow some balls say no more
Get your guns cannons pont them at the true killers and say you will do it no more Lets take thier guns away
Deena Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
My brother serves his country in the US Army. My grandparents and that whole generation — every male in my family — fought in WWII, either in the Pacific, or in Italy or Normandy. They were Democrats, and the ones who survived were union men who worked in construction sites their entire lives.
If they heard you talking sedition, they’d call you a pussy and suggest you to strung up by the cojones. Weak people think the only solution is cut and run, and traitors call for their country to fail.
you really had a blackout! Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Sorry to tell you but the U.S. ARMY AS WELL AS ALL OTHER MIL. ARE OWNED BY THE FOREIGN BANKS DEARY! YA I’ll CUT N RUN >>>TREASONISTIC BASTARDS THROATS IF THEY COME FOR MY FAMILY IN ANY WAY.
AND SO AS TO TRAITORS CALLING FOR OUR COUNTRY TO FAIL I GUESS ANOTHER BANKER BAILOUT WILL SOLVE ALL OUR PROBLEMS huh??????????
Deena Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
So you’re saying our guys in uniform are just puppets of the banks? Why not find a nice group of US soldiers, and let them know that?
Calling everything a ‘banker bailout’ is turning a really complex situation – that started WAY back with Bush — and trying to wrap it all up into outrage that you can froth over. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, there’s no hope for you.
YOU REALLY HAD A BLACKOUT Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
I TELL FORCES EVERYDAY AND MOST ALREADY KNOW WHATS GOIN ON .
AND NO IT DIDN’T START WITH BUSHY IT STARTED THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO!!!
JUST KILLING TO CULL RACES BECAUSE YOU DON’T LIKE THEM OR YOU THINK YOUR BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE, HISTORY REPEATING
YOU REALLY HAD A BLACKOUT Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
DRINK MORE TAP WATER AND BE HAPPY!
Deena Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
Cull races? What?
Bush started TARP. Yes or no?
Karen Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
You say the situation is complex. So complex it started WAY back with Bush???? LOL!
and you think being a Democrat means you are a patriot??? and unions? Nearly every one of them have stolen money from the worker’s pensions. Every one! There is nothing patriotic about that and there is nothing patriotic about blindly following.
Deena Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
TARP started with Bush, Karen. Context, read for it.
Karen, just because someone doesn’t agree with you, doesn’t mean they are ‘blindly following’ someone. It means they don’t agree with you.
Now, to me, everything you say sounds just like a recording of someone off of Fox News, but I’m not going to insult your intelligence by claiming you’re a puppet of money-grubbing rich neocons so they can grab the country back. I can let you figure that one out for yourself.
So, as to not muddy the waters with politics, let’s start with your flawed logic.
1) Where did I say that being a Democrat means someone is a patriot?
2) Please show where every union has stolen money from workers pensions.
Josh F Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
I served in the Army, My father in the Navy, his Father and Brother -Marines.
However, I will not hesitate one second if asked whether I would secede from this stupid nation of hypocritical morons.
Again.. Educate yourself.
I’ve seen the screwed up crap first hand….
so before you use other people’s experiences to justify your claims, you should probably think about who else might be posting.
EdUcAtE yOuRsElF dEeNa
Josh F Reply:
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:34 am
It’s funny… Only one person on this forum has tried to outwit me… and failed terribly and no one else even tries..
July 19th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
f--- the Fed
JT Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Agreed, f--- the Fed.
July 19th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
The United States ‘government’ is actually the United States Corporation. It was created behind the screen of a ‘Federal Government’ when, after the manufactured ‘victory’ in the American War on ‘Independence’, the British colonies exchanged overt dictatorship from London for the far more effective covert dictatorship that has been in place ever since.
Thus, the Founding Fathers, who most of them were Freemasons
The United States is not a land mass, it is a corporation
This Corporation is owned by another Corporation, The British Crown
See: Republica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43. and 28 U.S.C. 3002 (15)
See: Treaty of Peace (1783) 8 U.S. Statutes at Large 80
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July 19th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
I have 3 sons all serverd in military My oldest who led charge into Iraq 3rd infantry captured firsy Iraq Colonel and was offered a position in secret service to the tune of 90,000 a year
He turned it down See he has character was not going to tell lies or protect liars get the picture
All of my uncles and grandfathers fought in either Viatnam korea or WW2
So when I say Our government is corrupt murderous thieves I know what I am talking about
Deena Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Our government is a HUGE collection of people from all around our nation. To try to paint them all with one brush is kind of silly.
There are people with their own states concerns who come into Congress who try to get their state the best deal they can while simultaneously working on Federal laws. They’re not all in cahoots. It’s impossible. They’re not all murderous thieves. THat’s also impossible.
To say the government is ‘corrupt murderous theives’ is assuming you can herd cats. There are plenty of honest people in government. If you don’t like it, VOTE THEM OUT. Our country is great because you can VOTE THEM OUT. So vote them out. It happened to the Republicans this time around. That’s the breaks.
oldenough Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 12:04 am
I actually agree with you Deena. There is one aspect that you fail to recognize. Those faithful public servants that go into office with the best of intentions, get a serious reality check once they have been in for a short time. It is dog eat dog up on the hill. God Bless those that are able to hang on to their principles and core beliefs. More often than not, they find themselves having to “compromise” some of those principles for the greater good of the state that they represent. I still hold firm in my belief that there are good people up there on the hill, those that fight the good fight. Unfortunately sometimes they get chewed up and spit out before they know what hit them. Politics is by far the dirtiest job in America. All we can do is say a prayer for them, and hope that they don’t end up selling their soul for a piece of that pie that their constituents need.
You have a good head on your shoulders, keep holding it high. And as they say, something like “you go girl” (or some kind of crap like that) LOL (I just learned that one from my kids)
Josh F Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
The problem is as South Park put it best.
It’s always between a douche and a turd.
And your option of “Vote them out” might work if that would ever change.
July 19th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
All you crack pot republicans are just butt hurt your guys didn’t stay in office. Sucks to be you. But hey there, if I remember, the other side was quite butt hurt at your stealing of an election in 2000. Oh man that sucks. Pay back is a …..
Whether or not the man that IS our President is or is not from this country is now a moot point. He was elected, inaugurated, and sworn in by a Republican Supreme Court Justice. I guess the only way for him to get booted is through impeachment and conviction, incapacitation, or a vote of no confidence from a super majority of HIS cabinet with the latter being the most difficult. Suckers. good luck in ‘12.
I like the word is by the way. It all depends on your definition.
July 19th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Just came across one hell of a video, not seen on “youtube” that I know of.
It’s about what is going on right now, and it is one powerful perspective. Take time to watch, it will set your mind ablaze
Martial Law- Can you hear the trumpet
http://www.disclose.tv/action/.....Trumpet__/
July 19th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
tTHwey what tyou when youare s---iing people so the knoe how far to pus, it is fun for theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeem only a sniper can help u. Snipers don’t where underwear they are excpt form program, OUT
HUH? Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
When did they let you out?
July 19th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
THEIR WAS A SAYING MANY YEARS AGO THAT, IT TAKES A CROOK TO CATCH A CROOK,DOESNT SAY MUCH FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, LOOK AT WALL STREET HOW MANY CROOKS WENT TO JAIL? WHAT I AM JUST SAYING IS WHEN THE HOUSE IS FULL OF RATS DO YOU LET THE RATS EAT ALL THE CHEESE ,HELL NO YOU GET MAD AND GET RID OF THEM , AS FAR AS GUNS EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THEM ,THEN ALL THE RATS WOULD LEAVE WASHINGTON QUICK , AND YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY WHERE YOU FIND ONE RAT YOU FIND A WHOLE BUNCH, JUST LOOK AT THE CHEESE THEY HAVE EATEN (NAFTA) THE WHOLE U.S.A. ECONOMY THAT CLINTON GAVE AWAY AND THEY WANT TO DISARM AMERICANS , I NEVER VOTED TO HAVE (NAFTA) SHOVED DOWN MY THROAT, TRUST THESE TWO LEGGED RATS EATING US OUT OF OUR RIGHTS, SCREW THEM AND ALL THE OTHER TWO LEGGED TRAITORS EATING THIS NATIONS RIGHTS , TIME TO GEAR UP AND THIS YEAR ALONE IN THE UNITED STATES PEOPLE BOUGHT MORE GUNS AND AMMO ,THEN IN ALL THE HISTORY OF THIS NATION ,FACTS PEOPLE DONT TRUST THE TRAITORS RUNNING THE SYSTEM THEY HAVE SET UP (POLICE STATE) MODELED AFTER THE ZIONIST POLICE STATE,AND THE FORMER (KGB) POLICE STATE,LOOK AROUND IS THIS THE SAME PLACE THAT ONCE LIVED BY THE HIGHEST LAWS OF THE LAND THE U.S.CONSTITUTION? ERNEST PAYNE REMEMBER THIS THE BRITISH THOUGHT THE SAME THING,THEY SAID .COLONIAL COUNTRY BUMKINS ,AND THOSE SAME GREEN MOUNTAIN BOYS KICKED THEIR BUTTS ALL THE WAY BACK TO CHARLESTOWN , REMEMBER THIS YOU CAN SKIN A CAT A LOT OF DIFFERANT WAYS , THOSE GOOD OLD BOYS IN THE SOUTH WILL GET YOU ONE WAY OR ANOTHER JUST LOOK AT THE FACTS THEY DONT PUT UP WITH HORSEs--- ON THEIR DINNER PLATES, AS FAR AS IGNORANT , GO TO THE MOUNTAINS OF TENNSSEE AND SAY THAT , YOU WOULD GET SKINNED ,MORON THATS A FACT!
July 20th, 2009 at 12:02 am
It would do some good for most of you to further your education, or start one for that matter. Maybe you could take some poli-sci classes or maybe an economics class or two, and hey while you are at it, take some grammar. This thread is the culminating reason people from other parts of the country laugh at the way you speak and act. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.
oldenough Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 12:20 am
Amen robertfromreno! I try to wade through the enuendos, typos, and general dribble. One must admit that there is a certain entertainment value though. I just chaulk it up to the current state of our education systems failure to stick to the core curriculum. That being coupled by holding not holding bare minimum standards that were in place back in the 60’s- early 80’s.
Having said that, there is an awful lot of heartfelt posts contained within the thread. I just happen to find some of the vernacular reprehensible. Nuf said? (sic)
Josh F Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Definitely because of the education system. I left HS because I couldn’t stand listening to stupid people…
I can’t stand them.
That’s why i could never run the country.
I’d make stupid people get a tattoo across their forehead.
That way whenever they said something stupid, everyone could just forgive them.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:21 am
Pay back is a a bitch ain’t it.
what goes round comes round
All of us white folks better get used to being treated like niccas and rhedskins.
Josh F Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
another ignorant person…
and it says Dr.
haha how sad.
Dr. Stupid.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
What you guys dont understand is that its all contracts. The feds have jurisdiction over those who have contracted with them. As a US Citizen with a SS number and account, using federal reserve notes, etc, you have contracted. You have contracted with your driver license, with your voter registration that you dont need to vote anyway….You are under 20 contracts that make you a federal employee and surety for the national debt. Now, the Constitution applies to the private resident in one of the several states, not the US CItizen of the UNITED STATES AF AMERICA CORP registered in Puerto Rico. Are you a US Person? Are you using your All caps corporate title in the corporate govt/commercial world? Well then you have to abide by the regulations of those corporations and governments. Unless you have removed yourself, you are under their system. Can you get out, yes but its lonely there. Better to understand the system and then use it to your advantage. Start with Rob Menard, Winston Shrout and go from there. You have to dedicate your time to it, but you will see the solution there. Its a commercial solution. Its a self responsible position.
July 20th, 2009 at 3:31 am
I think some of the commenters are saying things that are provocative. Don’t you know what it is that your proposing people to do? Remember this is a war on for your head. Its what you think. No one has done anything to anyone. Only words. It would be different if the BATFE came in and closed all the gun stores and said that no one could purchase guns anymore, or if they banned ammunition manufacture or tried to tax it out of existence. This is just administrative BS. Its about who oversees the regulation of firearms in the state. Its not like you can’t buy the same firearms and ammunition. People get carried away. Americans are resourceful people and so is our land so it is not like people wouldn’t just go to work no matter what happened, whether it be a financial collapse, another foreign war, or whatever.
July 20th, 2009 at 4:43 am
I guess Federal Law (a.ka. NWO Law) also supersedes the constitution. As I have said before…
subjecting America to an outside super-power without Congressional consent would be considered high treason. Although unelected/appointed ‘individuals’ working within the Executive-Military-Industrial branch of ‘government’ might choose to do so of their own volition without Congressional or Senatorial consent, such an act cannot apply to the ‘America’ which is based on the Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. There are apparently two ‘nations’ occupying the United States, the traditional grass-roots ‘America’ established by the founding fathers and led by the ‘Electorate’ government, and the fascist Bavarian-lodge-backed ‘underground nation’ led by the ‘Corporate’ government which is contesting the original ‘America’ on its own soil.
For these treasonist NWO bastards your Constitution, Bill of rights, and Declaration of Independence is just a Gdamn piece of paper.
Wake others up, the enemy is in our neighbourhoods.
July 20th, 2009 at 6:01 am
Correct me if I am wrong…
When did the US Constitution supersede the Declaration of Independence? I don’t recall reading someplace that it was now defunct and mute and what document states such?
Because that document the first formal document of our original 13 sovereign united States allows us the right to change our form of government when the grievances get unbearable. If someone reads that document; it is spelled out on a piece of paper and that piece of paper says I can hang several hundred congressmen and judges with them.
So to tell me that we cannot change the union/secession is a bold-faced lie. We have a duty to change our form of government when idiots like Bush and Obama come into power and attempt to defer our rights to a foreign entity (Bankers and UN).
God Bless our Revolution
Col Gadsden
July 20th, 2009 at 8:06 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page
July 20th, 2009 at 8:27 am
One thing about that “certification”.Isn’t Obama’s birth name Barry Soweto??
July 20th, 2009 at 8:39 am
well.
I consider this usurper government “null and void”.
All a big fraud.
Stop paying, stop producing.
July 20th, 2009 at 8:50 am
As we are all know that the BATF threat is “Just a GD piece of paper”. It is time to resist and have our elected police (county sheriff) arrest these treasonous traitors. Put them on trial and inprison them for the rest of their natural lives.
July 20th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Go “John Gault” on July 30.
July 20th, 2009 at 9:56 am
The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you’re inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.
Can anyone tell me how this sci-fi movie quote is any different to the REALITY we all face today?
July 20th, 2009 at 10:12 am
“IN EVERY ORGANIZE NOW”
It is not the Constitution or any other “god damned” piece of paper that makes me free!
I am King of my nation.
It is I who declares my freedom.
It I who decides to who I shall bend and yield to.
“Don’t tread on me” is a label that everyone should wear from birth and all the days of ones life.
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Cisco d
July 20th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Sadly the according to the supreme court the federal government is in the right here. Read Wickard V. Filburn, or Gonzales V Raich, they state that intrastate commerce affects interstate commerce so the federal government under the commerce clause has jurisdiction here. the main question will be if the 2nd amendment is incorporated under the 14th into the states, and with the confirmation of Sotomayor we might not get this incorporation making it legal for the states to deny 2nd amendment rights. Sadly this is what Madison warned us about, these long chains of reasoning that end up with tyrannical government, learn the commerce clauses history and you will understand even better how we have arrived where we are today.
July 20th, 2009 at 10:27 am
“Federal law supersedes the Act, and all provisions of the Gun Control Act and the National Firearms Act, and their corresponding regulations, continue to apply.”
Someone needs to tell the BATFE that the Bill of Rights supersedes all Federal law that contradicts it and the constitution.
July 20th, 2009 at 10:42 am
To our Tenneessee Brothers-In-Arms,
The Freedom Loving People of the Republic of Texas are in FULL support of you and we’ll happily lend you our swords as you once did for us at The Alamo! It’s time that the ruling elite understand that we WILL fight to return our country to its former glory using whatever means we need to. Just because we WANT it under PEACEFUL means does NOT mean that we WON’T FIGHT! My oath to defend my country and the Constitution DIDN’T EXPIRE when I left the Army! I refuse to be ramrodded by those who’d seek to RULE us!
July 20th, 2009 at 10:55 am
BATF=Domestic terrorists!!!!
July 20th, 2009 at 11:00 am
You guys are paranoid sore losers. That or ignorant. Since when does state laws trump federal law? If it were that simple, then both the US Code and Constitution would be worthless. I would strongly urge you people to pickup a copy of the Constitution and read it. Maybe then you would realize just how much the Neocons are pumping you full of fear and garbage, and just plain using you.
July 20th, 2009 at 11:02 am
http://www.rumormillnews.com/c.....ead=151233
July 20th, 2009 at 11:16 am
We’re with you Tennessee. When this comes crashing down, ALL these SOB’s will be tried for treason during a time of war and hanged!!
July 20th, 2009 at 11:18 am
The accusation in Orly Taitz’ suit that Barack Obama has used as many as 39 different Social Security Numbers is astounding. I would think that even making such an accusation in a suit would be newsworthy, you would think that the press would at least interview people and look into it.
Link: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/
An excerpt:
(10) The evidence contained in Exhibit E shows that Barack Hussein Obama might have used as many as 149 addresses and 39 social security numbers prior to assuming the office of President. The social security number most commonly used by Barack Hussein Obama, is one issued in the state of Connecticut, the state where Barack Hussein Obama never resided and it shows him to be 119 years old. This coupled with the fact that Mr. Obama’s grandmother, Madeline Dunham was a volunteer at the Oahu Circuit Court Probate Department and had access to the social security numbers of the deceased, constitutes circumstantial evidence casting serious doubt on the legitimacy of Mr. Obama and his claims of being born on US territory. Exhibit F, the expert affidavit of renowned forensic document examiner Sandra Ramsey Lines, states that the certification of live birth posted by Mr. Obama as verification of his legitimacy, cannot be verified as genuine, and should be presumed fraudulent.
Does this bother anyone else the way that it bothers me?
July 20th, 2009 at 11:18 am
A steady aim………… beats a strong letter everytime!
July 20th, 2009 at 11:24 am
We are all very independently minded people in this fight for our 2nd amendment rights. But this is the time that we need to all stand as a united front in purpose, thought and action to defend our rights guaranteed under our Constitution and granted to us by our God. Governments are not there to give us rights but to protect those God-given rights. When the governments of men become tyrannical and fearful of the very people who grant them the ability to govern them then it is time for us to stand united first peacefully through our legislative process to enforce our rights, if this does not work then we have corrective nature of Judicial reveiw, when this does not work, and I am afraid it is coming very close to events we all may dread. Just as that great Founding Father of our Country Thomas Jefferson said: At times the Tree of Liberty must be fed by the blood of both tyrannts and Patriots. Support Gun Owners of America, NRA, Ron Paul’s legislation for auditing the Federal Reserve. United we Stand divided we fall. God bless the good people of America, from your Mountain Boys in the great state of Utah.
July 20th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
FFL holders have agreed/contracted to be governed by the terms of their FFL license. The STATE law is not applicable to FFL holders if their agreement with the Feds conflicts with the STATE law.
July 20th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
hahahahaa wow you read but don’t understand. Get educated please before you try and respond. PLEASE?
I’m so tired of responding to morons. If you don’t actually have some good arguments the next time, I’m just going to ignore you. I already explained this, but let me put it in a little simpler terms for your pea brain.
Of course the founders didn’t want confederacies you retard. They wanted FREEDOMS. And I agree with having a large diverse republic. That has nothing to do with this issue. The issue is that the Federal government has no authority in States gun law.
Our founding fathers put in the 2nd Amendment so that our government could NOT walk all over us the way that they have been doing. And the states are trying to PRESERVE those rights while being told that they can’t by different alphabet groups that technically shouldn’t exist anyway.. You think that’s alright?
Well.. if that’s the way you think.. you should probably go to another country where the there’s huge government and the people have no say so.
Sounds like your cup of tea.
Now as far as why you can think I’m against a republic I have no idea.
There needs to be an election system that works, however, before we could actually do this. I’m tired of watching stupid “elitist” people who have never had a hard days work in their life be put in offices where they don’t have to worry about money again. That’s my problem with this nation right now.
I’m not anti-government… I’m for a LIMITED government which IS what our fore-fathers wanted.
now, try and prove that wrong being as how they CAME to this country to escape their oppressive government.
Yes they tried to start out with Christian Fundamentalism, but that has been and always will be a fight as long as organized religion is around.
July 20th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Well, the only reason that I’m all for the states in this case is because it seems to me that they are only trying to defend their citizens rights. Yes, it’s probably only for the votes, but I will be taking the side of WHICHEVER actually sticks to the freedoms.
July 20th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
The Hunted… go away. You’re stupidity is going to start infecting the smart people on this site if you’re not careful…
oh wait…
lol
nvm.
you’d have to make some good points first.
July 20th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
My name says it all! We are ready!
July 20th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
WAKE UP FOOLS! Your living in a dictatorship. You wanted change so you idiots voted in Obama. Now look what your getting!!!
July 20th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
The pen is only mightier than the sword if you have a sword to back your pen up.
Talk is cheap. Everyone is always bloging, talking, chatting, But not one of you guys has the guts to do any thing about it. Bla bla bla thats all i see, and hear!! Those little phukers over in the middle east believe in what their doing, and are willing to die for it. Americans are all spoiled,sniveling,lazy phuks. That are to chicken s--- to do anything but run their mouths.
YOU ARE ALL SHEEPLE America has become a nation of pussys
July 20th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
We are all taking it in the azz and have been for a long time.
It’s time we put the cock block on these phukers and bone them back!!
July 23rd, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Yeah and it also doesn’t say “We the Feds” or “We the Elite” However that’s who they help… themselves. Or are you that mental?
That’s right it’s about the majority of “The People”.
So… when they ignored us over the bailout.
That was ok?
That was “The People”?
Hm… Flawed logic my friend.
Go back to school.
July 25th, 2009 at 7:33 am
What’s with you idiots? They gave a little party called the Civil War to suppress the kind of treason you’re babbling about reviving. Half a million men gave their lives because foolish southerners were propagandized into believing that the chief protector of their freedom – the federal government – was instead the biggest enemy of their liberty. “States Rights” was a con game run by the most dishonest gang of criminals in our history. Get a f---ing clue, will you?