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Feds May Grab California Parks
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Peter Fimrite
San Francisco Chronicle
July 2, 2009
San Francisco Chronicle
July 2, 2009
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Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s closure list includes 67 state parks that would probably stop receiving federal funds if they were shut down, National Park Service officials said. In May, the governor proposed closing 80 percent of the state’s parks to help fill the state’s gaping deficit.
Portions of six other parks that used to be owned by the federal government but were transferred to the state could be taken back if they were closed, said David Siegenthaler, the project manager for two National Park Service programs that provide money to the California State Parks.
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July 2nd, 2009 at 10:57 am
close a park? why?
Desslok Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:20 am
So they can barricade entrances to the parks ahead of the fema camp round ups.
Pedro Gonzales Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:24 am
SI SENIOR
Taggety Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:59 am
That’s “Senor”….with the lil squiggly thing above the N
FreedomLover Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 5:53 pm
I don’t know why my post was deleted, but desslok is on to something. There are many people who know how to do back-country camping. They could very easily hide and survive a long time.
I believe this has something to do with the wildland restoration agenda. Herding the people into crowded cities so they will be easier to control and keeping the beautiful places of the world for their own selfish use.
Beauty is a wonderful restorative, and denying access to these places further demoralizes people. Hopelessness increases, and depressed people are more apt to long for death. ALL of these puzzle pieces fit nicely into their depopulation agenda.
There could be dozens of reasons for closing these parks, and all of them valid. It doesn’t matter WHY they are doing it. They simply are, and it’s wrong.
marshall Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:33 pm
There is plan to stack people in cities and clear the rural areas indeed. This way you control people.
This way they can use more land for GMO foods, oil exploration, house the Chinese since Hilary gave them eminent domain. Check out http://www.HumanityForUnity.com
We have to second guess again and again. Nothing is what it seems.
ew keane Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:36 am
good point.
I’m looking at back road cycling, finding offroad trails for shortcuts.
Permaculture outlawed?
BobLeeSwagger Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:49 am
Im with you Freedom Lover- I think thats one aspect of it, but I also think that this might have something to do with the back door deals that Hillary Clinton did with the Chinese in order to get them to buy up more of our debt, thusly shoring up this horseshit system of finance further. Maybe these parks, being the ultra ubber prime real estate that they are, were thrown in somehow to sweeten any deals, and by closing the parks on the state level, they open it up to federal seizure and that would grease the tracks for that land being turned over to the Chinese or whatever country we made a “deal with the devil” type deal. Altogether though, the whole thing stinks like a horse’s ass after a nasty round of diarrhea.
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July 2nd, 2009 at 10:58 am
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Thank you again Alex for all your hard work!
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:01 am
I am not American so please understand me. Im not hating you guys, making fun of or something but you must understand that you cannot eat a cookie and have a cookie.
For all these years “American way of life” was founded by rest of the world. You just now are tasting what rest of the world was eating all these years. Get used to this taste coz for very long time it will be your daily meal…
Welcome in the club.
Nothing will happen if the parks dont receive as much money as usual. Its not like you are leveling mountains, sinking islands, cutting down forests and shooting down all animals by not giving it money…
Steven UK Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:17 am
But it’s not the American peoples’ fault. “Their” government (with its lap dog UK) has carried out policies to deliberately impoverish the rest of the world.
You’re correct in saying that the rest of the world is paying for their debt. This is because the Dollar is the world’s reserve currency which effectively means that the US creams a percentage off world trade and allows them to spend. China effectively paid for the War in Iraq.
The “American Way of Life” is just propaganda. Millions of Americans live in poverty.
It’s not just about wildlife parks. If California goes bankrupt – welfare will be cut. People will die.
Specter Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:32 am
It pretty much is the American people’s fault Steven. We’ve allowed ourselves to become complaisant, to be dumbed down, and have allowed a tyrannical government to do it’s work using the phrase ‘the people of the United States’.
I’m not saying people haven’t tried, but not nearly enough people have taken notice.
It’s begun!
SeventhSin Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:51 am
Finally, a man that will take his part of the responsibilty.
Congrats Specter for starting the revolution the right way, at the heart of the problem.
wasnt-my-idea Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:10 pm
We just don’t like the word “fault” . We were lied to as children, programmed. None of us citizens planned the shit. It was done in a secretive way. I hate when ppl say “WE gotta get out of the mid east and whatever…” DON’T INCLUDE ME W/ THEM. WE are the ppl spreading truth, exposing lies.
IT’S AN INFO WAR NOT A FEEL GUILTY WAR.
Armed*Serenity}-;='--- Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Yep you are correct, reality sucks!!!!!
Apon sighning the Constitution a woman on the street asked, well Mr. Franklin what kind of government did you give us a Democracy or a Republic……..Franklin replied, a Republic Maam if you can keep it……….
WakeUp Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
People will DIE, Steven?
The FEDERAL government, under the Social Security Administration provides food and income supplementation for the “needy.” It is NOT the State that provides, unless you’re referring to Medi-Cal, which if you don’t happen to have, you will STILL receive emergency medical treatment at ANY hospital, and long-term care at COUNTY-run facilities.
But what about the illegal immigrants that are ineligible for the program, you ask? Well, you seem to be ignorant of the fact that there are a myriad of “Sanctuary Cities” throughout the state that provide for illegal immigrants regardless of the law. Los Angeles and San Francisco are two HUGE examples of such sanctuary cities.
Pedro Gonzales Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:26 am
SI SENIOR -
Taggety Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:29 am
Bound to be sooner or later…..we totally were tricked. Raised on sugar and TV and that the president and all the officials were ones to trust….I REMEMBER THOSE DAYS…..goodens indeed…….reality is nye and high. We as a global world CAN have good lives together…but
with corruption and absolute power an inevitable consequence…..we are a planet doomed for war……are all of you as tired as I am?…..I mean REALLY tired!?!……It seems that the occasional meets and greets on the streets with strangers is an all time weird or hostile engagement……..have we all turned inward on ourselves…or is it just me? I didn’t used to be this way.
Josey Wales Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:59 pm
You need to study monetary systems a little more that way you will understand that we have not been living off the rest of the world we have been robed just like the rest of the world that lives under a debt based monetary system. So if you want to work for the international bankers then prepare to pay.
Awnold Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Ive got a really bad headache, I hope its not a tumer
House Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 7:41 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UAOLg76Bbg
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:07 am
more resources to use as collateral for a new chinese or saudi loan………..
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:14 am
Wouldn’t you if you had everyone’s money and value at your fingertips?
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:18 am
the land dose not belong to you Americans your government never told you the laws Farshtinkener are you peoples fatoot …….
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:20 am
result, a more natural park.
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:20 am
Is this because cali’s in bad debt? I heard that the fed is going to do this all across the country. They could seize land in states that are badly in debt. Sadly, more states than you’d think are in a lot of debt right now. (Sorry I don’t know the number) By the way, the fed seizing parks couldn’t possibly lower the state’s debt. It’s just a power grab.
grippa usa Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:43 am
Currently 47 of the 50 states are projected to file bankruptcy by 2011. Once the fed acquires these parks they will just be sold to the highest bidder. They don’t have to directly own something to control it, just need the right face and a bank account.
joe Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Sell the parks to the highest bidder? That’s awful!
cafehead Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Hello my name is john von rothschild.
I will buy Yellowstone park for 1 trillion us dollars as I recently came into a very ,very large sum of money.
Last Door Down The Hall Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:55 am
Yeah, sold to the UN.
United Nations Biodiversity Treaty
25 up till now
Biosphere Reserves LIST:
Big Bend National Park, Tx.(801,163 acres)
Big Thicket National Preserve, TX (85,750 acres)
Congaree Swamp National Monument (SC (22,200 acres)
Death Valley National Monument, CA (2,067,628)
Denali National Park and Preserve, AK (6,500,000 acres)
Everglades National Park and
Fort Jefferson National Monument, Fl.(1, 571,199 acres)
Gates of the Arctic National Park and Preserver, AK (7,523,888 acres)
Glacier National Park, Mt (1,013,572 acres)
Glacier Bay National Park and Preserve, AK (3,283,168 acres)
Great Smoky Mountains National Park, TN/NC (520,269)
Hawaii Volcanoes National Park, HI (229,177 acres)
Isle Royale National Park, MI (571,790 acres)
Joshua Tree National Monument, CA (559,954 acres)
Kings Canyon National Park, CA (461,901 acres)
Mammoth Cave National Park, KY (52,708 acres)
Noatak National Preserve, AK (6,574,481 acres)
Olympic National Park, WA (922,651 acres)
Organ Pipe National Monument, AZ (330,689 acres)
Redwood National Park, CA (110,232 acres)
Rocky Mountain National Park (265,727 acres)
Sequoia National Park, CA (402,482 acres)
Virgin Islands National Park, VI (14,689 acres)
Yellowstone National Park, WY (2,219,791 acres)
World Heritage Sites
Carlsbad Caverns National Park, NM (46,766 acres)
Grand Canyon National Park, AZ (1,217,158 acres)
Mesa Verde National Park, CO (52,122 acres)
Wrangell-St. Elias National Park and Preserve and Preserve, AK (13,188,325 acres)
Yosemite National Park, CA.(761,236 acres)
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:24 am
Thats dumb the feds already own everything anyway.
Captain Trips Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:57 pm
No, it’s not dumb and the Fed does not own everything already. They want to own everything but there are even limits to what the Fed can do. Why do you think the Fed scientifically creates inflation and deflation? If they were all powerful they wouldn’t need to obfuscate their true nature as crooks and swindlers by using a closed system that always burns in their favor.
smoked Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 9:12 pm
WE ARE THE FEDS!
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:42 am
It’s pretty obvious that this is nothing other than the Global Village agenda to drastically eliminate the world’s population, relocate it to acceptable geographical areas labeled as ‘human zones’, and revert the rest of the world to wild life habitat.
Ted Turner, the super environmentalist, has repeatedly advocated for this (who is the head of the UN commission on Population Reduction and Relocation and wild lands restoration and is the head of the UN council of Religion) as have many other elitists. Millions of acres have been seized from private ownership and hundreds of millions of acres of public lands have been seized, which were meant for America’s use and enjoyment, and are now off-limits in the name of wild animals.
This is textbook UN/Global Village plan and agenda, and they’ll use and excuse to seize more and more land, especially the present economic situation.
Captain Trips Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Right on. Parks and forests all across the country are labeled as United Nations Heritage Sites supposedly protected for the posterity of the world’s people, not the People of the United States of America. I’m sure you’ve seen the U.N. maps of America and the places were the human population is authorized to live and travel in? Little red dots in and around the major cities while the vast majority of the country is off limits to human beings. It may have taken them ten years longer than they expected but it look like they’re getting it done. A storm is coming and it’s going to be the storm of the century.
Highlanderess Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Yes Captain. I always say the NWO is very patient. Now they just don’t give a damn and everything is speeding up.
Captain Trips Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
You said it. They’re moving at a blistering pace. It seems like they are just about ready to play out the final hand. We’re living in some trying times and it looks like things are going to go from bad to worst. Pretty soon their whole agenda will be completely overt. There won’t be any more debating about them being evil by the majority. There will be a few hardcore believers in the cause, all despotic regimes have their faithful and this will be no different other than it will eventually be worldwide. But for the most part, Americans who’ve been in disbelief about the conspiracy will meet the cold hard truth very soon. It will be like they’ve opened their eyes for the first time and will see their government and the world for what it really is, pure, unadulterated evil.
FreedomLover Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 5:30 pm
But unfortunately, it will be too late for them. They haven’t prepared. Even those of us who are trying to prepare can very well have our stores of food forcibly seized. As well as those who have armaments and ammunition. Don’t anyone accuse me of giving anyone ideas. All this has been thought out and planned decades ago.
The Bible says there will be new heavens and a new earth. I can only believe that the natural beauty of this earth poured forth out of God’s hands that exists now, will be nothing compared to the new thing He has promised once the Adamic curse has been lifted.
Prophecy will come to pass. I can’t stop it. Even the devil can’t stop it, and he is more powerful than any human. God’s Word will NEVER be put down by a NWO resistance against it. He said “behold, I make all things new.” Dark times are not coming, they’re already here. Satan’s attack on beauty will only be successful for a short while. We’ll have it back forever. It’s always darkest before the dawn.
Captain Trips Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 9:36 pm
You’re right Freedom but you might want to think about this…We’re specifically talking about America. God has allowed tyrants to take over countries in the past. What if America is destined to be led into slavery or at the very least destined for civil war? The Tribulation hasn’t yet begun and we don’t know the day or the hour when it will commence. All of signs spoken of in Matthew 24 have not yet come to pass. If the Tribulation is still years in the future then it is our duty to fight if need be. America doesn’t have to descend into tyranny, we can stop it if we choose to.
On the other hand, God may choose to begin the Tribulation just as America is completely taken over along with the rest of the world. For some reason most believers seem to think the one world government spoken of in Revelation will come to pass purely by human hands and that just isn’t scriptural or accurate. The Tribulation begins with the opening of the sixth seal and a great worldwide earthquake. Every island and every mountain will be moved from their place. Then two massive celestial objects will slam into the earth, one will hit the sea and the other will strike the land, poisoning all of the rivers and waters of the deep, making them bitter.
After that a crisis government will form out of the ashes of a broken world. This crisis government will know that God has judged the earth and they will want to avoid further judgment any way they can. These world leaders will join up with the religious leaders of the world (The Pope) and they will create religious laws in order to try and stop sin and further judgment. The Antichrist will rise (Satan himself, no man or incarnation of Satan but the real deal, the fallen angel Lucifer) and the world’s leaders and all of the people of this world will think he is God come in the flesh (The lamb-like beast). The mark of the beast will be instituted and the real horrors will begin.
Highlanderess Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:29 pm
How do we stop these people?
FreedomLover Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
We can’t. But we know the One who can.
All I want is to be left in peace. My life in my dinky mobile home park isn’t hurting anyone. Except that I will not worship satan or his toadying NWO. So I guess that makes me dog droppings in their eyes. I quit caring about that a long time ago. I re-read Psalm 140 today. It’s so applicable to what’s going on, gave me goose bumps.
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:44 am
Just a thought – The closure of parks may offer good places to live under the radar.
The Ghost of Tom Joad Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:48 am
Hide where? On the eighteen hole, when the Japanese bulldozes them over for fucking golf courses and hotels? Or maybe some Chemical Corporation can use them as a brown field. Crony Capitalist whores would cut down the second to last truffula tree, then charge us, to go see the last one.
FreedomLover Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 9:31 pm
If they don’t string razor wire all around them so you can’t get in. Hey, another place our ?$trillion went?
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:46 am
State & Nat’l treasures on the auction block.
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
So it’s not related to this story but people have gotta see this! So it begins folks! Federal agents are going door to door in Texas looking for guns!
http://smargus.com/2009/07/fed.....un-checks/
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Makes refugees trespassers.
Some of the slums in different countries started as shanties on the hillsides, outside of town.
They’re making life in the city pretty impossible.
Think about it, survivalists.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Isn’t this the UN’s Agenda 21 being played out? Reducing the areas into which people can escape the cities, which won’t have any electricity due to ‘cap and trade’ regulations.
Highlanderess Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Exactly. Less areas to escape to.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Closing 80% of the parks? WTF!
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FreedomLover Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Better take your vacations now before they lower the boom on that too.
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:33 pm
All states declare independence !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 2nd, 2009 at 7:43 pm
You guys know this was all “planned”, many states are close to closing state parks. It will be more property control for the feds, and much less ground for the homeless to squat on therefore forcing them like catle to FEMA camps. It’s gonna get worse……people better start to wise-up.
July 2nd, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Those parks belong to the people of the state, and just because the people of the state no longer have money to administer them, does not give the feds the right to come in and take them, as if they were the landlord and we had stopped paying rent.
If we are smart, we will let the federal seizure of state park lands be the beginning of the next American Revolution. We should mass and gather in those places, weapons in hand, and draw the line in the sand. We The People already own and need those resources. The more resources the feds take away from us, the less resources we have for our own freedom and survival. Why should we let them be taken from us without a real and bloody fight?
I say let the feds just try and take them, and if we let them be taken without firing a shot, then we never deserved to have them and never truly owned them to begin with.
July 2nd, 2009 at 9:35 pm
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July 2nd, 2009 at 10:10 pm
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1. before alex was william cooper. and unlike alex HE PREDICTED 911. alex rode his coattails. how dare alex say he had the acumen to decipher the media and call that prediction.
2. several years back alex was invited to this christians home in texas who was having problems with the police wanting to raid his ranch. he interviewed this man because this man TRUSTED alex. alex allegedly then turned around and sold him down the river to ABC news( the interview) for like a pathetic few hundred dollars. ALEX is motivated by your money people, dont doubt his intentions!
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4. i heard alex’s rant today about chastising infowarstv.com for potentially taking money away from ALEX”S businesses. check out infowarstv.com. he presents it alot better than i.
people please dont think that i know or am affiliated with the above website in any way. I AM NOT. i live in maine and have been listening to alex for about a year. i just want to say that the intentions of alex imo is $$$ first and alex loves to hype things up very often. i have caught alex over exaggerating so so often and while he is on point about alot of things, i believe he is greedy and i am very suspect of his true intentions.
peace to all
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Oh no they will keep the parks open,
but you will need your fingerprints to enter…
I think arnie did this on purpose,
The banks will own California by 2010,
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:06 am
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July 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 am
What is the militia? The term “militia” consists of two parts: the organized militia and the unorganized militia. According to the organic Maine Constitution and backed by the United States Code, the organized militia is the standing military force in the state (the “State Guard”) while the unorganized militia (which is commonly called the militia) consists of all other males between the ages of 17 and 45 (or 65 if they have prior military service). The militia was established for the purpose of defending the state (a sovereign nation) and the United States of America (a union of nations) from all enemies “foreign and domestic” based upon principles of community self defense established hundreds of years before the nation was formed. However, while the organized militia was tasked with the defenses of the states, our forefathers, having just fought their own government, did not place their entire trust in the government or a standing army to protect them but reserved the right and the means to protect themselves – thus the unorganized militia. The militia was and is a defensive body set up so that its members can take care of normal peace by internal lawless elements, or government usurpation of the rights and power of the people guaranteed by the Constitution, there is a group of people that owe their allegiance to no one except God and their fellow Americans who desire to remain free.
The mission and purpose of the militia have not changed. What has changed is the status of the organized militia. The “State Guard” with the duty and obligation of protecting the state is now under federal jurisdiction (the “National Guard”) thereby obligating it only to the federal government making the unorganized militia the only constitutional force available for the defense of the state.
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:27 am
Why not close some prisons, as has been talked about?