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Feds Post Monster Obamacare Bill
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Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
October 30, 2009
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi wants you to read all 1,990 pages of the Obamacare plan. “We are putting it online for all Americans to see,” she announced. Most Americans will probably not read the bill. You’ll need Washington-ese decoder ring to plow through the monstrosity.
If you are adventurous, however, here is a link to Pelosi’s “transparent” bill.
Republican John Boehner has posted the details of this boat anchor tribute to coercive government on his website. According to Boehner, the government take-over of health care includes: a plethora of new taxes on middle class families, massive cuts to Medicare benefits, no protections for small business, increased costs in the form of higher premiums, budget gimmickry to hide the massive total cost for future generations, imposes job-killing employer mandates, rigs the health care game in favor of a government-run insurance company, forces unfunded mandates on the states, adds more arcane gobbledegook to the tax code, and much more.
In fact, the bill — excluding the creation of the Federal Reserve and confiscatory income taxes — is the largest and most egregious intervention of the government into the private lives of Americans in history.
Americans for Tax Reform have posted the following points taken from the bill:
Employer Mandate Excise Tax (Page 275): If an employer does not pay 72.5 percent of a single employee’s health premium (65 percent of a family employee), the employer must pay an excise tax equal to 8 percent of average wages. Small employers (measured by payroll size) have smaller payroll tax rates of 0 percent (<$500,000), 2 percent ($500,000-$585,000), 4 percent ($585,000-$670,000), and 6 percent ($670,000-$750,000).
Individual Mandate Surtax (Page 296): If an individual fails to obtain qualifying coverage, he must pay an income surtax equal to the lesser of 2.5 percent of modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) or the average premium. MAGI adds back in the foreign earned income exclusion and municipal bond interest.
Medicine Cabinet Tax (Page 324): Non-prescription medications would no longer be able to be purchased from health savings accounts (HSAs), flexible spending accounts (FSAs), or health reimbursement arrangements (HRAs). Insulin excepted.
Cap on FSAs (Page 325): FSAs would face an annual cap of $2500 (currently uncapped).
Increased Additional Tax on Non-Qualified HSA Distributions (Page 326): Non-qualified distributions from HSAs would face an additional tax of 20 percent (current law is 10 percent). This disadvantages HSAs relative to other tax-free accounts (e.g. IRAs, 401(k)s, 529 plans, etc.)
Denial of Tax Deduction for Employer Health Plans Coordinating with Medicare Part D (Page 327): This would further erode private sector participation in delivery of Medicare services.
Surtax on Individuals and Small Businesses (Page 336): Imposes an income surtax of 5.4 percent on MAGI over $500,000 ($1 million married filing jointly). MAGI adds back in the itemized deduction for margin loan interest. This would raise the top marginal tax rate in 2011 from 39.6 percent under current law to 45 percent—a new effective top rate.
Excise Tax on Medical Devices (Page 339): Imposes a new excise tax on medical device manufacturers equal to 2.5 percent of the wholesale price. It excludes retail sales and unspecified medical devices sold to the general public.
Corporate 1099-MISC Information Reporting (Page 344): Requires that 1099-MISC forms be issued to corporations as well as persons for trade or business payments. Current law limits to just persons for small business compliance complexity reasons. Also expands reporting to exchanges of property.
Delay in Worldwide Allocation of Interest (Page 345): Delays for nine years the worldwide allocation of interest, a corporate tax relief provision from the American Jobs Creation Act
Limitation on Tax Treaty Benefits for Certain Payments (Page 346): Increases taxes on U.S. employers with overseas operations looking to avoid double taxation of earnings.
Codification of the “Economic Substance Doctrine” (Page 349): Empowers the IRS to disallow a perfectly legal tax deduction or other tax relief merely because the IRS deems that the motive of the taxpayer was not primarily business-related.
Application of “More Likely Than Not” Rule (Page 357): Publicly-traded partnerships and corporations with annual gross receipts in excess of $100 million have raised standards on penalties. If there is a tax underpayment by these taxpayers, they must be able to prove that the estimated tax paid would have more likely than not been sufficient to cover final tax liability.
In addition to the list of taxes for in the ATR report, our people found the following:
Employer FINE Under Mandated Excise Tax (Page 310): A $100 per day excise tax imposed on employers for each employee for whom employer fails to “satisfy the health coverage participation requirements”. Excise tax will not apply if Secretary determines even after “exercising reasonable diligence” employer was unaware of employee’s lack of participation in health coverage.
“CADILLAC” INSURANCE PLANS
Credit vs. Points (Pages 318-320) This portion gives the appearance of providing a temporary two-year credit while at the same time deducting “points” if the Secretary deems that the employer is too generous with its health care benefit package. Ex. p. 319, lines 11-18: “Credit not allowed with respect to certain highly compensated employees. No credit shall be determined under subsection (a) with respect to qualified employee health coverage expenses paid or incurred with respect to any employee for any taxable year if the aggregate compensation paid by the employer to such employee during such taxable year exceeds $80,000”.
MEDICAL REIMBURSEMENT
Uncompensated Care Increase (Page 389-390) Page 389, lines 14-19 detail a “significant” decrease in uninsurance will be triggered by only 8% decrease – “There is a “significant” decrease in the national rate of uninsurance as the result of this Act” if there is a decrease in the national rate of uninsurance from 2012 to 2014 that exceeds 8 percentage points.” Page 390, lines 4-9 detail the increase in uncompensated care – “For each fiscal year (beginning with 2017) , the Secretary shall estimate the aggregate reduction in the amount of Medicare DSH payment that would be expected to result from the adjustment under paragraph (1)(A)”. This, in turn, will lower payments to hospitals in reimbursement rates.
Gov’t to legislate Pain Research, page 1493 line 14
Begins with Line 14 ‘‘SEC. 409J. PAIN RESEARCH.
This section covers research that will be conducted at National Institutes of Health (NIH)
Provides for a “Pain Consortium” and a committee to be known as “Interagency Pain Research Coordinating Committee”
page 1496 describes the attributes of committee members (6 members are scientists, physicians, other health professionals while another 6 members are from general public representatives from leading in research, advocacy and service organizations for individuals with pain-related conditions)
This committee will coordinate all efforts within the Department of Health and Human Services and other Federal agencies that relate to pain research. Appears to be a decision making board on treatment protocols (could rationing be involved here?), create a public awareness campaign on pain,
page 1501
15 AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS.—For
16 purposes of carrying out this section, there are authorized
17 to be appropriated $2,000,000 for fiscal year 2011 and
18 $4,000,000 for each of fiscal years 2012 and 2015.’’.
Employer Excise Tax (Pages 313-317): If an employer chooses not to provide health insurance to employees, an excise tax on the total wages paid is imposed on the employer. The excise tax percentage ranges from 2% of total payroll of $500,000 to 8% of payroll of $750,000 or more. If an employer has less than $500,000 annual payroll, he pays no excise tax.
Employer Health Coverage Tax Credit (Pages 317-319): Small business owners receive a tax credit of 50% of health insurance paid for employees whose wages are $20,000 or less per year when the employer has 10 or fewer employees. The tax credit is prorated as the amount of wages increases, leaving no tax credit for the employer when such employee’s wages total $80,000 or more per year.
For employers with more than 10 employees, the tax credit calculated by the proratio shall be reduced by an amount in the ratio of 10 to total number of employees.
SEC. 1416. Ensuring Staffing Accountability
(a) Skilled Nursing Facilities
(b) Nursing Facilities
Page #: 822 – 826
Subject: privacy
Remarks:
This section of the bill calls for an amendment to the Social Security Act “(C) Submission of Staffing Information Based on Payroll Data in a Uniform Format.”
The Secretary of Health and Human Services shall require a skilled nursing facility to electronically submit to the Secretary direct care staffing information including agency and contract staff, based on payroll and other verifiable and auditable data in a uniform format (GE?) (as established by the Secretary in consultation with among others, consumer advocacy groups (ACORN?))
GOVERNMENT REGULATION OF CARE AND RESEARCH
*Government Panel for Senior Care Decisions (Pages 649-661): The Secretary has the right to waive requirements of the Social Security Act Titles XI & XVIII. These providers will put together patient decisions aids and share in seniors’ decisions regarding their health care. Seniors will attend counseling provided by said panel. Compensation will be granted to providers who generate less cost for care with regards to Parts A and B of Medicare.
Government Legislation of Pain Research (Pages 1493-1501): Page 1496 describes the attributes of committee members (6 members are scientists, physicians, other health professionals while another 6 members are from general public representatives from leading in research, advocacy and service organizations for individuals with pain-related conditions). This committee will coordinate all efforts within the Department of Health and Human Services and other Federal agencies that relate to pain research. Appears to be a decision making board on treatment protocols, create a public awareness campaign on pain. Ramifications include overly regulated treatment protocols for chronic pain and the possible end result of rationing. The viability of private research is questioned in light of this section.
(Page 1501): Lines 15-18 establish the authorization of appropriations – “For purposes of carrying out this section, there are authorized to be appropriated $2,000,000 for fiscal year 2011 and $4,000,000 for each of fiscal years 2012 and 2015”.
Government Regulation of Staffing in Nursing Facilities (Pages 822-826): In a specific motion to alter state authority of nursing facilities and to provide the Secretary and consumer advocacy groups with overreaching authority, this section of the bill calls for an amendment to the Social Security Act “(C) Submission of Staffing Information Based on Payroll Data in a Uniform Format.” The Secretary of Health and Human Services shall require a skilled nursing facility to electronically submit to the Secretary direct care staffing information including agency and contract staff, based on payroll and other verifiable and auditable data in a uniform format as established by the Secretary in consultation with among others, consumer advocacy groups.
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NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE CORPS
Sec. 2201
Obligated Service Requirement (Page 1220): “The entity and the Corps member agree in writing that the Corps member will perform half-time clinical practice”. Essentially, this details “those individuals who have entered into a contract for obligated service under the Scholarship Program or Loan Repayment Program un which the individuals are authorized to satisfy the requirement of obligated service through providing clinical practice”. Essentially these individuals are obliged to work off debt in this capacity.
ABORTION
Abortion Coverage (Page 110): “Nothing in this Act shall be construed as preventing the public health insurance option from providing for or prohibiting coverage of services described in paragraph (4)(A)”. Paragraph (4)(A) Abortion Services – Abortions for which public funding is prohibited. That said, paragraph (4)(B) “The services described in this subparagraph are for abortions for which the expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for the Department of Health and Human Services is permitted.”
GOVERNMENT REGULATION OF INDUSTRY
Health Czar (Page 133): Establishes Health Czar and bureaucracy, i.e. “Health Choices Commissioner” and “Health Choices Administration”. Essentially, this area lends the Health Commissioner and Health Choices Administration power over health insurance plans both inside and outside of the Health Insurance Exchange. The concern is that the provision invites overreaching authority and oversight of plans specifically set up to provide timely and needed care not readily available through the government exchange-controlled plans.
Health Czar Health Plan Audits (Page 133-134) Provides “Health Commissioner”/Czar with wide discretion to audit “qualified health benefits plans” and then bill the plan for the cost of the audit, regardless of grounds for the audit and regardless of whether or not the plan was found to have violated any regulation. The concern is the overreaching of authority and power over private health plans and the conjecture is that this will force a process by which consumers are significantly limited in their health plan choices. As written, no protection from abuse of power in this regard is provided.
Word/Topic Reviewed: Subtitle E—Public Reporting on Health Care-Associated Infections
SEC. 1138A. REQUIREMENT FOR PUBLIC REPORTING BY HOSPITALS AND AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTERS ON HEALTH CARE-ASSOCIATED INFECTIONS.
This section is vaguely disturbing in the way it micro-manages hospitals, a vast overreach of federal power, but that’s nothing surprising in this bill. Two specific red flags:
Sub-topic (b)(2).
Page #. 915Paragraph #. 2
Subject: 02, 03
Remarks: Infections are to be publicly posted and compared by demographic information. (Age? Race?)
Sub-topic (c)(4).
Page #. 916
Paragraph #. 2
Subject: 03, 04
Remarks: Infections are being studied in such detail in order to reduce costs, not because of quality of care concerns
Government Regulatio of Patient Care
Regulation of Services (Page 383) Lines 11-16 allot for using appropriate indicators for non-therapy ancillary services classification, which may include age, physical and mental status, ability to perform activities of daily living, etc. The concern is over the method of deciding care delivery, placing key decision-making elements in the hands of politicians and other non-medical staff as opposed to the hands of patients’ doctors and families.
Regulation on Patient Stay (Page 385) Establishes payment based on total costs during stay in a skilled nursing facility as opposed to the number of days in such stay.
ABORTION
Abortion Coverage (Page 110): “Nothing in this Act shall be construed as preventing the public health insurance option from providing for or prohibiting coverage of services described in paragraph (4)(A)”. Paragraph (4)(A) Abortion Services – Abortions for which public funding is prohibited. Paragraph (4)(B) “The services described in this subparagraph are for abortions for which the expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for the Department of Health and Human Services is permitted.”
Federal Funding of Abortion (Page 147) Lines 14-(1) IN GENERAL.—“Nothing in this Act shall be construed to have any effect on Federal laws regarding – (A) conscience protection; (B) willingness or refusal to provide abortion; (C) discrimination on the basis of the willingness or refusal to provide, pay for, cover, or refer for abortion or to provide or participate in training to provide abortion. The concern regards lines 20-23 (C) as it is viewed as a potential open door for funding of organizations such as Planned Parenthood. The document affirms that this bill has no effect on current law where discrimination based on either willingness or refusal to participate in abortion services, and thus, provides no additional protect against the use of Federal funds allocated for abortion services. As, additionally, the Hyde Amendment is in no way incorporated into this piece of legislation and because no additional explicit protections exist in this document, this piece of legislation will, indeed, provide authorization of federal funding of abortion under the public option.
Additionally, because there is no ban on abortion funding under the reauthorization of the Indian Health Service (IHS), and additionally no additional protections such as the Vitter Amendment, there is nothing to prevent abortion funding.
Mandated School-Based Health Clinics (Page 1354) Lines 9-21 states, “(c) Use of Funds – Funds awarded under a grant under this section …(2) may not be used to provide abortions. However, there is no specific language prohibiting either abortion referrals or the distribution of information materials regarding access to abortion.
Required Reporting Regarding Infections Sec. 1138A – Requirement for public reporting by hospitals and ambulatory surgical centers on health care-associated infections. Page 915 – States, “infections are to be publicly posted and compared by demographic information.” Page 916 – States “infections are being studied in such detail in order to reduce costs, not because of quality of care concerns”. The concern stems from both the ambiguity that exists in the statement referenced on page 915 as well as the lack of concern over quality of care in regards to infection.
Required Reporting Trumps State Laws Sec. 1128H – Financial reports on physicians’ financial relationships with manufacturers and distributors of covered drugs, devices, biologicals or medical supplies under Medicare, Medicaid, or CHIP and with entities that bill for services under Medicare. Page 910 – Concerns is that language pre-empts state laws requiring manufacturers to report their relationships to physicians. Page 912 – Establishes that “Comptroller General” is to file a report establishing that no loopholes exist in said section.
GOVERNMENT REGULATION OF NON-HEALTH INDUSTRY
Regulation of Disclosure of Nutrient Content/Menu Variability (Page 1514) Lines 5-14 – “The Secretary shall establish by regulation standards for determining and disclosing the nutrient content for standard menu items that come in different flavors, varieties, or combinations, but which are listed as a single menu item, such as soft drinks, ice cream, pizza, doughnuts, or children’s combination meals, through means determined by the Secretary, including ranges, averages, or other methods”. Rules extend to maintaining the calculation of combo meals an addition cost to restaurants.
Regulation of Vending Machine Owners/Suppliers (Page 1516) Lines 4-8 – Pertaining to businesses that own or operation 20 or more vending machines, “the vending machine operator shall provide a sign in close proximity to each article of food or the selection button that included a clear and conspicuous statement disclosing the number of calories contained in the article”.
Regulation of Food Preparation/Presentation (Page 1517) Lines 14-22 – “The Secretary shall (aa) consider standardization of recipes and methods of preparation, reasonable variation in serving size and formulation of menu items, space on menus and menu boards, inadvertent human error, training of food service workers, variations in ingredients, and other factors, as the Secretary determines”.
Pg. 1601
19 solved with reasonable premium increases
PG 1555
lines 1 through 7 and no such
5 information or documentary material may be
6 made public
‘‘(E) ENFORCEMENT.—
14 ‘‘(i) CIVIL PENALTY.—Any person
15 that violates a provision of this paragraph
16 shall be liable for a civil penalty of not
17 more than $11,000 for each day on which
18 the violation occurs.
Pg. 1624
5 (2) PERSONAL CARE ATTENDANT WORKFORCE
6 ADVISORY PANEL.—Section 202 of such Act (42
7 U.S.C. 3012)
Pg. 1800
22 ‘‘(3) PEER REVIEW PANELS18 ‘‘(e) PEER REVIEW PANELS.—The Secretary may
19 provide for the establishment of peer review panels, as nec20
essary, to review and evaluate applications using the cri21
teria developed pursuant to subsection (d)
Pg. 1805
12 ‘‘SEC. 307. LAND TRANSFER
15 departments of the United States are authorized to transfer, at
16 no cost, land and improvements to the Service
Pg. 1584
11 paid into a Life Independence Account for ob
12 taining assistance with decisionmaking
13concerning medical care
See attachment for a compilation of what’s been found so far on p. 110-200. Some highlights:
p. 110 (4) (B) Federal funding for abortion is in;
p. 111 Sec. 223 “Health Benefits Advisory Committee” to recommend covered benefits (AKA “rationing board”)
p. 120-130 HHS Sec. directed to clarify/define several bits in this section (reader found 50+ calls for Sec. to clarify/define, including in rest of bill)
p.133-134 “Health Choices Administration” with power over health insurance plans both inside and outside the Health Insurance Exchange invites harassment of non-Exchange plans and abuse aimed at driving private plans out of business.
Lots more where these tidbits came from in the attachment. Will get to work collating any reports which may have come in since 4:30PM Central Time today as soon as I post this.
Pages 1850 – 1860 Titled “HEALTH SERVICES FOR URBAN INDIANS” contains a lot of double talk. What it summarily says in plain English is that the Secretary now controls and approves any and all grants and/or contracts entered into or referred by an Indian Tribe, Urban Indians or Tribal Organizations, including but not limited to healthcare needs, education of any kind, desease prevention, wild life preservation, land preservation or land purchases, and anything else covered under the 1921 Snyder Act. I specifically found it interesting that on page 1860, lines 14-23, the purpose of a contract or grant…shall be the determination… in order to assist the Secretary in assessing the health status and health care needs of Urban Indians in the Urban Center involved and determining whether the Secretary should enter into a contract or make a grant…
ADDITIONAL ITEM RELATED TO INDIAN HEALTH:
Septic System Regulations (Pages 1780-1790) The Federal government will fund sanitation facilities for Indian Tribes with the following provisions: (Page1781) “Sec. 302 (a) (1) financial and technical assistance to operate and maintain sanitation facilities…. (a) (3) funding to operate and maintain sanitation facilities….(b) Congress reaffirms the primary responsibility and authority of the Service to provide the necessary sanitation facilities and services as provided in section 7 of the Act of August 5, 1954 (42 U.S.C. 2004a)…..(Page 1783) – (c) (5) fund up to 100% of a tribes loan for sanitation facility….…(Page 1785)(c) (8) the Secretary of Health and Human Services shall, by regulation, establish standards applicable to the planning, design, and construction of sanitation facilities funded under this Act… (Page 1787) (d) The financial and technical capability of an Indian Tribe, Tribal Organization, or Indian community to safely operate, manage, and maintain a sanitation facility shall not be a prerequisite to the provision or construction of sanitation facilities by the Secretary”. It is posited that this item is a necessary item for the bill as septic-related issues directly affect health issues for the Indian Community. However, it is a concern that this is transition of power overrides local standards for the Indian Community and usurps local authority over key community infrastructure and systems. It is worthy to note, as well, that sanitation needs include a clean water source which involves a myriad of issues related to clean water and environmental concerns.
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October 30th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
making things worse for Americans. that’s what it’s all about in gooberment these days. me, i’m trying to make things better. but i’m just a poor musician struggling in the desert. here is some Halloween music for truthers: http://www.myspace.com/boffomet
jt Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Just the name Nancy Pelosi activates my reptilian brain. I would like to feed her to the gorillas at the zoo and watch them tear her to pieces.
Not me Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Maybe the opposite would happen ?
InvestigatEverything Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Average person reads about 12,000 words an hour. It would take almost 34 hours to read this, if it were an average document. Of course this is not your avg document, you would need a team of 3 lawyers to help decipher all the garbage.
Tim Craig Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
In short, just what is the public option, what does that mean?
I’m being serious. Please.
Thank you
WTF Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Hell, I’m too lazy to even read the whole article, let alone the bill. Just hurry up and pass the thing already. We’re beyond f---ed at this point anyway.
Skid Marx Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 1:34 am
The gorillas would leap up on the bars and scream
soon as they caught a whiff of Pelosi’s tw*t.
joey-the-wise Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 1:52 am
/agree with wtf. my long term strategy is ‘dont get sick’
AndyA Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 4:48 am
Please Nancy, don’t help us anymore or care about us anymore.
We will take care of ourselves. Just let us have our vitamin C,ect and we will get by. Thank you, now go away.
TEXAS IdentityCrisis Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 8:18 am
I guess, we have to spend most of our free time breaking this thing apart and deciphering it for the next ??? days? Everyone pick a part of it and break it down and post your findings. The whole idea behind this fascist takeover is to keep it so complicated that the public just has to take their word for it. Just like the IRS tax code. Keep everyone confused and riddle it with over reaching mandates and fines for non-compliance. Don’t just lay down and take it, lets keep tearing this 1900 monstrosity apart. Paragraph by paragraph. We must expose it’s contents in an understandable fashion :/
Oh God! Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 4:50 pm
It would take a team of lawyers alright, 1′990 of them. One Lawyer to “argue” each page. I get sick just looking at the simple outline posted above not to mention Palosi’s face.
For assistance Call: Can’andWill Cheat’em And How at….. 1 800 were f---ed
JJ Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
HELLO INFOWARRIORS. NUMBER OF BILL HAS CHANGED!! DO THE PETITIONS NEED TO BE REWRITTEN/CHANGED??
See link:
http://energycommerce.house.go.....;Itemid=55
Affordable Health Care for America Act
Publications
Friday, 30 October 2009 16:40
On October 29, 2009, House Democratic leaders unveiled the Affordable Health Care for America Act, H.R. 3962. The three panels with jurisdiction over health policy in the House have been working together as one committee to develop a single bill that fulfills President Obama’s goals of reducing health care costs, protecting and increasing consumers’ choices, and guaranteeing access to quality, affordable health care for all Americans.
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This is the old one (HR-3200)
1017 pages:
energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090714/aahca.pdf
ERIKTHERED Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
HEY, ITS THE DEMONIC NETWORK HANDBOOK ON HOW TO ROPE OFF A WHOLE COUNTRY WITH MASS GENOCIDE INCLUDED. STRAIGHT FROM THE DEPTHS BEYOND THE REPTILIAN CREVICES OF THE DAMNED….
FOR THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING YOU HAVE AND YOUR SOUL YOU CAN LIVE A LUXURY LIFE OF ETERNAL MISERY ENSLAVED UNDER DEMONIC TYRANNY.
NETWORKING FOR TRUTH ON ALEX JONES MYSPACE BLOGS.
me first Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Skelator is FUUUUUGLY!!!! That;s all, I’m not going to read such a long article, too boring
army Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
READ IT NANCY. PAGE 1827 GRANTS TO INDIAN TRIBES AND TRIBAL ORGANIZATIONS, PAGE 1719 RE TRIBAL COLLEGES, PAGE 1809 TRIBAL HEALTH PROGRAMS, 1688 MOL MORE INDIAN HEALTH ORGANIZATION PROGRAMS. YOUR EVIL PLAN IS GOING TO BE RUDELY INTERRUPTED VERY SOON. WONDER ABOUT THAT? THE TSUNAMI THAT WILL RESULT WILL BE BREATHTAKING. SIX MILLENIA ARE ABOUT DONE AND THE NEXT IS OURS. WE ARE THE ARMY OF YAHWEY, ALIVE, WEARING THE FULL ARMOR OF OUR CREATOR, WARNING FELLOW MANKIND AND AWAITING THE DAY. PENTECOST 2012. HISTORY REPEATING. LOVE TO ALL OTHERS. 91113123325412
IrishGal Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Goodie, let’s put it on CSPAN so we can all watch.
oldnamvet Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Nancy and Hillery are liveing proof you survive a abortion.Well at least their mothers tried.
Skid Marx Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 1:47 am
They are also proof not of evolution, but of DE evolution.
Give ‘em a few more years and they’ll be friggin’
KNUCKLE DRAGGERS.
Big Balla Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
So I’m not the ONLY one then….
Crafty Devils Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
The crafty devils !
Soooo, by putting it online NO american can say ‘I dident know”
There gonna make this an iron clad case of ‘to lazy to look after your own affaris? Ok, we’ll do it Again for you….and Here’s what we’ve come up with’
Authors Opinion: This whole world is festering, and festering fast. Good meaning and intentioned apples are being forced to be in close proximity of already festering apples. The outcome of which will be a rotten bushel of apples that needs to be replaced.
Its sad, yet how clever it was to remove our telepathic abilities where all communicate in mind whereas evil now can hide in silence behind closed lips.
Man….this is the scariest haunted house ride I have participated in Yet…I forget the ending, but I do remember that its soon.
Karen Jakins Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Oh my goodness are you people really serious????
I didn’t see anyting in all of those pages that should warrant such a paranoid conspiracy theory as you and this site are spouting off
Go get laid and then things will be all better you losers!!
sam Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
we are married, getting laid and yet truth is truth. look up the pages my friend. it is all there and we even gave you what is where. who do YOU work for……………….army
Madman Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Unless you have a mistress… being married does not mean you are getting laid.
My ex girlfriend came in screaming on day, and said *We are never having sex again*, to which I replied, You aren’t having sex again… you don’t know where I’m getting mine.
killthenwo Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 7:40 am
let me guess… that’s why she’s you ex?
Walt Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 11:18 am
Scientist have found a new food that decreases a womans sex drive by 90%, it’s called “wedding cake”! muahhhhhhhh!!!!
TEXAS IdentityCrisis Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 8:23 am
Yeah, we’re losers for watching the government to see if what they say they’re doing is what they’re actually doing, ESPECIALLY GIVEN OUR OWN AND THE WORLD’S HISTORY. You get laid every time the government isn’t made accountable by overly trusting dumb dumbs. TEAR THE BILL APART, PARAGRAPH BY PARAGRAPH AND EXPOSE ITS CONTENTS.
just as american as the gov Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
i will not have any insurance that is not the same as the government has for themselves they are no more amsrican than i am or my family ….anything less they can stick it in there a….s
HR3200 Scam That's All! Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
All A Lie Double down added B.S That’s All!! we have been Warned for years and Language Border and culture has been the main message OK! We have to stand up and file no more Taxes Period and Revolt Period and put NP on Notice clean your desk out NOW!
If Whore House Harry Reid’s Planed Options, Failed the House Version then this will too But Barry Declared a National Emergency So were is Martial Law NOW!
TEXAS IdentityCrisis Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 8:25 am
Not unless we do the tiring job of TEARING THIS BILL APART, PARAGRAPH BY PARAGRAPH. It may take a staff of many to decipher it, but we the people number in the millions. Pick a page and tear it apart. Then expose your findings. The truth will come out. We simply want the truth. What do the 1900 pages mandate?
aMerkin Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 6:41 am
21 December 2012 FED will have secured all physical
gold stocks once belonging to the people of the USA.
At the end of their 99 year mandate, they have no
option but to secure another 99 years to avoid any
answers for their nefarious frauds in the great heist.
Hence the police state, rfid, cctv etc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u03TfQN1pXo
saithix Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 10:29 am
ummmm i hate reading long paragraphs can some one dumb it down for me, what thats all about and does it state anything about mandatory vaccination?
October 30th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Get out of the Matrix http://www.freedomguide.weebly.com
October 30th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Thanks Kurt for all your continued work in this fight. God bless
October 30th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Now how in their right mind has the inclination or the time first of all to read and then decode it. I wonder how many in the Senate have read and understood it.
roaddog6 Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
my guess is none.
Trolly Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
You’re a f---ing idiot you f---ing troll!
St. Michael Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
Now what the f--- is that all about huh?
roaddog6 Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
thats all he/she does to posts here. ignore it.
Bob Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
no senators have read it
2 aids read half of it
no one understood any of it.
Wilson, Flip Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Well its quite simple…isent it?
If you CANT understand the frikin thing, you VoTe a Big NO !!!!
Where the FLIP is common sense these days ???
TEXAS IdentityCrisis Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 8:27 am
Pound your reps with these kinds of questions. But pick a section, decipher and read what others have deciphered about it. Then let your reps know what you’ve found. Ask the hard questions, sign petitions, and pound them so it won’t get through.
October 30th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
first
jenchillada Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
So baically when it’s all said and done .. we’ll be making the same wage as the illegal alien doing the jobs “we don’t want” but now we’ll have to pay a fee for our health insurance (cause we know our salary will go down!) or get thrown in jail and pay a fine. Yea, NO, It’s not the end of freedom in America. Who actually got into their vehical THAT day and drove to the polls and elected this doucebag?! That’s who I blame!
Madman Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
If American’s had a freaking backbone, we wouldn’t be worried about this health care thing, the politicians in Washington would be hiding under their damn desk, avoiding gun fire.
Bore snake Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Madman, You got that right
TEXAS IdentityCrisis Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 8:34 am
I for one, believe the health care industry is the problem, not the answer. Now they want to force me to pay for health care insurance, when I BELIEVE IT IS THE PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE? I refuse to pay for health care given my belief it is the very source of the problem of some people’s so=called inability to get health care. Pay cash directly to your doctor for visits, change your lifestyle, avoid toxins, detoxify, eat organic, supplement with d, c, b, coq10, flax oil, get up and exercise, spend your money on putting nutrient rich products in your body. Refuse to hold up this dinasaur. We don’t need health insurance, we need to pay doctors directly. Plus they have health clinics with sliding scales for fees everywhere already. I’ve used the one in my town and what do you know, they provided me with all that I needed for a few bucks each visit. Plus free meds when available. What is all this nonsense about people not able to find doctors or health care? Use only catastrophic illness coverage for catastrophic illlnesses. We can pay our doctors direct for usual care.
WTF Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
gay.
JohnDoe Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
He’s a “straight” shooter… (LOL!)
October 30th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Good article Kirt. God bless Alex Jones. There is a battle raging on the spirit-world dimension: http://www.patriotscave.blogspot.com
October 30th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
lets just hope we the american people can come together as a whole and reject their propaganda and reject their mindsets and psiop games, we together have to push for the right things and we all should have a vague idea of what right is, dont allow the media to pursaude you into selling your rights and souls away, lets hope and pray for freedom and peace to w/e higher being you call god, and lets hope we dont all get decapitated, peace and love will shine above all other aspects, god will clean up the mess if the people cant, have faith and always walk straight in the path of righteousness much and peace and love to all of you my people, my brothers and my sisters
GuyinFlorida Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
God helps those that help themselves.
roaddog6 Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
so if you help yourself why would you need god to do it, or at all?
Trolly Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Wow, that was a really stupid reply. Stupider than most of your idiot comments and replies, but this takes the cake!
roaddog6 Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
suck it.
Wilson, Flip Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Don’t tempt him, he probably ‘wood’
October 30th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
SHES THE DEVIL
sam Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
probably not………………….just works for him. sam
October 30th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Hi All.
I wonder does this bill have provisions for the implementation of the 666 Grid :
Nanotechnology : What Is In The Swine Flu Vaccine :
http://www.lifeinthemixtalk.com/?p=4373
If you look at the related links at the bottom of the page you will see who now owns this technology….
October 30th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Less care, less coverage, all at a higher cost.
October 30th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
i would love to shove pine cones up this bitches ass, backwards.
October 30th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
f--- EM ALL.
October 30th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
It’s true what the Italians say abou the Sicilians. Pelosi is one.
Duke1 Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Pelosi is a Jew and is married to an Italian.
umustbkidding Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
I thought she is Argentinian Jew.
October 30th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
The insurance companies helped write this bill. The retarded liberals think the corporations hate this bill.
Geolibertarian Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Exactly. At the same time, retarded “conservatives” think single-payer advocates love this bill.
As usual, BOTH sides are wrong:
– http://propagandamatrix.com/fo.....263.0.html
October 30th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Jesus is coming back and he’ll save all you sheeple, so just sit on your fat arses and keep guzzling beer. There’s really no need to get all worked-up over this. Obamacare is the will of God otherwise it wouldn’t be happening.
Hallelujah Honolulu, praise the strychnine.
wearall77 Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
GO AHEAD AND MOCK YOUR FUFILLING BIBLE PROPHECY WETHER YOU KNOW IT OR NOT AND YOUR DAY BEFORE THE RIGHTEOUS JUDGE IS COMING AND YOU WILL BOW WITH YOUR KNEE AND CONFESS THAT JESUS CHRIST IS LORD WETHER YOU WANT TO OR NOT
October 30th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
They made it 1k plus pages to keep people from reading it. Well people read it, now they are making it almost 2k pages, hoping no-one will read it. At this point, I don’t trust ANYTHING that comes out of the devils den of Congress.
October 30th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
haha! Let’s rush this thru before the sheeple start to figure out we don’t know what the hell were doing,..Look how great of a job we did with Medicare! haha, we shelled out millions of dollars each year to phony claims! imagine now that the Government will have there hands in on the cash flow this time! Give us your everything and we’ll give you crap in return!
~CamoJak
October 30th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
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October 30th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
This is insane. Their is no point in working anymore because 3/4 of your paycheck will go to taxes.
October 30th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
“Remarks: Infections are to be publicly posted and compared by demographic information. ”
Bioweapons such as H1N1 and chemtrails can be tracked by feds.
October 30th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Who’s Mary? If you want to dress up and be called Mary have at it (you are protected now), but I think I’ll be MERRY.
roaddog6 Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
I saw that too. LOL. what a dumbass.
October 30th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
The best thing to do is to read this damn thing as if it where a Horror Novel written by Stephen King.
Oh God Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 5:16 pm
We’re in Hell…. and too tramatized to admit it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 30th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
It doesn’t matter whether you have a job or not anymore, the government will find a way to keep you poor.
It was interesting to see just how many “taxes” are included in this bill. Even the illegal IRS has thier hand in it (page 349)!! WTF does the IRS have to do with health insurance?????
This is utter garbage. I have to go take a shot of Scotch right now…
October 30th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
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HR3200 Scam That's All! Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Just Listened to coasttocoastam rerun today and the H3N2 is acting up Again or is it Aerosol Attack released! remember we are under a National emergency and FEMA is the Big Boy to worry About Now Under Homeland Sec so Lock And Load it will be a Bloody Xmas!
October 30th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
this is the same crap as the last one, just re-arranged and costs a helluvalot more. we should tax pancy nelosi for wasting paper and blowing hot air.
October 30th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
WAKE UP MY PEOPLE http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/ READ AND GO THROUGH THIS WEBSITE VERY VERY IMPORTANT PEOPLE
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Karen Jakins Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Pauline,
Oh my godness, you are a tin foil hat wearing paranoid freak!!!! Your spam link made me laugh till I f---ing choked on my phlem!!
Are you really serious??? You can’t be, you must be joking, do society a favor and punch your mother in uterus!
Thanks for proving my facts about you people on this site
October 30th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
THIS IS TIPICAL, 1,190 PAGES TO BE READ N A TIME FRAME WHICH WOULD PROVE MOST DIFFICULT FOR ANY SERIOUS PERSON! THE WHOLE CONGRESS NEEDS TO BE ELECTED OUT OF OFFICE! THEY DO “NOT” HOLD THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE ANYMORE. “99% HAVE LONG SINCE BEEN BOUGHT AND PAID FOR. ANY POLITICIAN SHOULD “NOT” BE ALLOWED TO HOLD OFFICE MORE THAN A 4 YEAR PERIOD, AND AT LEATS A 5 YEAR BREAK IN-BETWEEN BEING ABLE TO OBTAIN IT AGAIN… THAT “SHOULD” KEEP THEM MORE HONEST.I WAS ALWAYS UNDER THE IMPRESSION LOBBYIST ARE ILLEGAL, OR AT LEAST THEY “SHOULD BE. MY GOD… WHOEVER HAS THE MOST MONEY GETS WHATEVER THEY ARE PIMPING? THEY ARE NO BETTER THAT PIMPS AND SLUTTY WHORES!
October 30th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
YOU PEOPLE NEED TO LOOK AT PAGE 1502
Karen Jakins Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
….and??
It’s about patient trials of new devices you MORON!
DR. KAVORKEAN Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Hopefully they can do some more experimentation on you wacko Karen.
October 30th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
NAncy, R U SERIOUS!!!!
R U SERIOUS!!!!!!
Karen Jakins Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Your inflection requires a question mark, not an exclamation mark you uneducated dolt!
October 30th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Piece of crap. Peolsi get you head out of your ass. If you think that this is America’s idea of affordable heath care you should live on Mars and take the rest of the crooks with you. Dumb Ass.
October 30th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Dude….I couldn’t even get through the fist quarter of the article…….and I’ve plowed through some big yawners before……..what a debacle.
Stay positive folks….they need us in fear and squalor to even come close to succeeding……I have a feeling they (The dark cabal of bankers, politicians and corporations) are done for. People are waking up too fast and everything they are doing now seems so……..desperate.
The light shall prevail……full conciousness awaits us all
Peace and love to all.
October 30th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
If you want to fix health care clean house first. Get rid of the corruption in the present system. Then give the people health care thats for the people and not for those CIO’s pocket money.
I’ll be Damned if I’m going to forced to pay for abortion. And Pelosi calls herself a christian WHAT A POOR EXCUSE for even being a Human at that.
October 30th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
I propose H.R. 1368, called the Weighted Omission Bill. It’s only one page.
“If you can’t LIFT the bill, you can’t pass it.”
October 30th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
########### STOP OBAMA’S HEALTHCARE BILL HR 3200 ###########
Sign:
http://www.campaignforliberty......thcare.php
########### STOP OBAMA’S HEALTHCARE BILL HR 3200 ###########
JJ Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
HELLO INFOWARRIORS. NUMBER OF BILL HAS CHANGED!? DO THE PETITIONS NEED TO BE REWRITTEN/CHANGED??
See link:
http://energycommerce.house.go.....;Itemid=55
Affordable Health Care for America Act
Publications
Friday, 30 October 2009 16:40
On October 29, 2009, House Democratic leaders unveiled the Affordable Health Care for America Act, H.R. 3962. The three panels with jurisdiction over health policy in the House have been working together as one committee to develop a single bill that fulfills President Obama’s goals of reducing health care costs, protecting and increasing consumers’ choices, and guaranteeing access to quality, affordable health care for all Americans.
- – -
Its NOT HR 3200 anymore???????
This is the old one (HR3200)
1017 pages:
energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090714/aahca.pdf
JJ Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
HELLO INFOWARRIORS. NUMBER OF BILL HAS CHANGED!? DO THE PETITIONS NEED TO BE REWRITTEN/CHANGED??
See link:
http://energycommerce.house.go.....;Itemid=55
Affordable Health Care for America Act
Publications
Friday, 30 October 2009 16:40
On October 29, 2009, House Democratic leaders unveiled the Affordable Health Care for America Act, H.R. 3962. The three panels with jurisdiction over health policy in the House have been working together as one committee to develop a single bill that fulfills President Obama’s goals of reducing health care costs, protecting and increasing consumers’ choices, and guaranteeing access to quality, affordable health care for all Americans.
- – -
This is the old one (HR-3200)
1017 pages:
energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090714/aahca.pdf
October 30th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
########### STOP OBAMA’S HEALTHCARE BILL HR 3200 ###########
Sign:
http://www.freeourhealthcarenow.com
currently 1.341.760 signatures
Information:
actionpack.ncpa.org
on the media:
radioink.com/article.asp?id=1442469&spid=24698
news.prnewswire.com/ViewContent.aspx?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/08-04-2009/0005071649&EDATE
########### STOP OBAMA’S HEALTHCARE BILL HR 3200 ###########
October 30th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Judiasm is much older than buddhism and therefore so is Christianity.
you homosexual pediphiles in buddhism which is the New Age religion of the NWO need to go back under the rock you slimmed out from under. you sick person!!!
DR. KAVORKEAN Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
homosexual pediphiles in buddhism ?
You would know your probably part of a cult of weirdos and wackos.
probably fornicated with cousins!
October 30th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
The Bill has doubled in pages. These criminals doesn’t have anything other to do than making laws.
Kick them all out:
http://www.KickThemAllOut.com
FireCongress.org
October 30th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
lots of indian tribal language. tribal colleges????????????????wow sam
October 30th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
am I the only one here who is concerned with the provision in this bill that states ” departments of the United States are authorized to transfer, at no cost, land and improvements to the Service”.
This sounds like nothing more than a land grab to me. They will be able to take your land and not have to pay you a single dime for it.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Please excuse me while I go and perform a labotamy on myself.
DR. KAVORKEAN Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Take your time
October 30th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Criminals.
Throw them ALL out.
Now.
October 30th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
You know what this bill will prompt me to do… as a small business owner, who provides no health insurance… *my employee’s are all 1099 sub contractors…* fire the employees to avoid the 100 dollar per day fine.
That’s change you can believe in.
October 30th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
There’s so much waste going on that could be cut out to pay for health care. How much goes into black projects, pork barrel spending and the wasted money spent to pay the salaries of these incompetent buffoons. 850 billion defense budget a year, make due with 750 billion for defense and 100 billion to health care and leave the people alone. Sure are spending plenty on the war machine over health for the people. They spend more on ways to kill people than to save them.
October 30th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
got thru the title got a headache anybody got advil
October 30th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
the only thing we get from this obamacare bill is a paper fire to help warm the unemployed homeless in the streets all over this nation, during this global-cooling fall. that, of a whole bunch of brand new TP for my government to wipe with, while hopefully suffering some extremely painful paper cuts. that’s is the only way i want to appreciate them for this garbage they try to make me choke on!
October 30th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Co-sponsors:
Rep. Robert Andrews [D, NJ-1]
Rep. George Miller [D, CA-7]
Rep. Frank Pallone [D, NJ-6]
Rep. Charles Rangel [D, NY-15]
Rep. Fortney Stark [D, CA-13]
Rep. Henry Waxman [D, CA-30]
HANG THEM NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!
October 30th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
They are all on a list, They will eventially be tried and hanged in Washington.
October 30th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
The facts are that the insurance companies are robbing America blind. The bill that Pouski is selling was written by the insurance companies. You’re screwed either way. The only thing that Polooski’s bill, which was written by the insurance companies is different is that it forces EVERYONE to have insurance…just like liability insurance for auto’s. So, by being born, you are REQUIRED to buy health insurance. Only difference is, you don’t have to buy a car. But you have to live, therefore, you have to pay a health insurance company for health insurance. Can’t afford it??? Same as food stamps. The middle class will pay for you. EVERYBODY’S EQUAL. This is how the demoncrats are paying for their illegal alien BS. GET A GD ROPE!!!!!!
October 30th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
The facts are that the insurance companies are robbing America blind. The bill that Pouski is selling was written by the insurance companies. You’re screwed either way. The only thing that Polooski’s bill, which was written by the insurance companies is different is that it forces EVERYONE to have insurance…just like liability insurance for auto’s. So, by being born, you are REQUIRED to buy health insurance. Only difference is, you don’t have to buy a car. But you have to live, therefore, you have to pay a health insurance company for health insurance. Can’t afford it??? Same as food stamps. The middle class will pay for you. EVERYBODY’S EQUAL. This is how the demoncrats are paying for their illegal alien BS. GET A GD ROPE!!!!!!
BTW, THIS IS THE 3′D TIME I’VE POSTED THIS. IT KEEPS BEING DELETED. AJ IS SOLD OUT FOLKS. HE’S GONE
October 30th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
why isnt this section mentioned
page 145 section 255
SEC. 255. SEVERABILITY.
4 If any provision of this Act, or any application of such
5 provision to any person or circumstance, is held to be un-
6 constitutional, the remainder of the provisions of this Act
7 and the application of the provision to any other person
8 or circumstance shall not be affected.
constitutional loophole? seems like the most disturbing part to me this is ther eto protect there bogus misinterpertation of the 10th ammendment. incase sombody did challange their interpertation of the constitution in regards to this it wouldnt matter? it says ANY
buddah Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
(continued accidently hit enter) provision of this act or application of this act is deemed the REMAINDER?? will remain this doesnt make sense to me so if the whole thing is deemed unconstitutional what remains? if the structre involved in writing this is unconstitutional the whole thing is unconstitutional. if i am way off in this please feel free to correct me and explain this better. maybe its ofr nitpicking incase 1 major thing stands out worse than the others the others can continue? maybe but anyways i figured id take a stab at it and reference this part here because i didnt see it in the article and even if im wrong about the severity of it it is a built in loophole.
buddah Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
thinking about this further another possibility may be that if you challange this and win your case, it only applies to you. possibly a way to rake in legal fees. to support this a bit if u look at the original legal text minus my notes it says
SEC. 255. SEVERABILITY.
4 If any provision(notice singular not plural) of this Act, or any application of such
5 provision(also singular) to any person or circumstance, is held to be un-
6 constitutional, the remainder of the provisions(PLURAL) of this Act
7 and the application of the provision(singular again, are they in refrence to the original unconstitutional provision?wouldnt the remainder of the provisionS be plural here) to any other person
maybe just a typo but its the law and there isnt supposed to be typos that a normal guy like me can pick up especcially when it comes to constitutional authority
8 or circumstance shall not be affected.
October 30th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
5.4% sounds great,reasonable even…but next year It will be 7,10,15 % watch and see.
They just want to get their fascist foot in the the door!( the other for is commie?)
October 30th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
They might as well printed it in Chinese.
At least some of Americans speak Chinese as opposed to lawyer hidden linguistics.
The Federal Reserve does the same thing..you gotta go searching all over the place to connect the dots and decipher it.
And then they pretend like the constitution is written the same way.
How hard is it to understand the right to bear arms???Does not say go to Sec 18. Except when we tell you!!
October 31st, 2009 at 12:46 am
also makes a good yule log for the fireplace
October 31st, 2009 at 3:03 am
Been searching the monster with the search option…
Found some intresting stuff but the noobmasters have been very keen on keeping words like mandatory and forced out of this chilling pile of crap..
1757
INTERGOVERNMENTAL TASK FORCE.—
There is established an Intergovernmental Task Force to be
composed of the following individuals :
The Secretary of Energy.
The Secretary of the Environmental
Protection Agency.
The Director of the Bureau of Mines.
The Assistant Secretary for Occupational Safety and Health.
The Secretary of the Interior.
The Secretary of Health and Human Services.
The Director of the Indian Health Service.
The Task Force shall—
Identify existing and potential operations related to nuclear resource development or other environmental hazards that affect or may affect the health of Indians on or near a reservation or in an Indian community and enter into activities to correct existing health hazards and ensure that current and future health problems resulting from nuclear resource or other development activities are minimized or reduced.
Lets call em the NuclearBirds
October 31st, 2009 at 3:07 am
The ObamaScare bill ;P
October 31st, 2009 at 8:24 am
Just say no to healthcae of 2009
October 31st, 2009 at 9:44 am
A Free thinking society? I’m Communist, and actually beileve in human rights, so… every article of any value, and i post is deleted by this website! f--- You! To those who actually want to know the truth… read tha article(s) and The Constitution of the Russian Federalist Party. Hmm, i guess you’ll beileve what the liberal mainstream media imposes as the truth (!) This “capitalist society,” ever learns anything- but the truth.
October 31st, 2009 at 9:58 am
Here You go sheeple.. Amerikkka has a patent on H1N1!!
Scientist, who heads WHO laboratory on influenza holds patent for bioengineered swine flu virus
PATENT STORM
US Patent Application 20090010962 – Genetically Engineered Swine Influenza Virus and Uses Thereof
Claims
1. An attenuated swine influenza virus
comprising a mutation in a swine influenza NS1 gene that diminishes theability of the NS1 gene product to antagonize the cellular interferonresponse, and permits the attenuated virus, at a multiplicity ofinfection of 0.001, to grow to titers between approximately 3 fold toapproximately 7 fold lower than wild-type swine influenza in pig cells,as determined approximately 5 days post-infection when propagated underthe same conditions.
2. The attenuated swine influenza virus of claim 1, wherein the attenuated virus is genetically engineered.
3. The attenuated swine influenza virus of claim 1, wherein the attenuated virus is a mutagenized virus or reassortant.
4. The attenuated swine influenza virus of claim 2, wherein theattenuated virus is a chimeric virus that expresses a heterologoussequence.
5. The attenuated swine influenza virus of claim 2, wherein theattenuated virus is a chimeric virus that expresses a tumor antigen.
6. The attenuated swine influenza virus of claim 2, wherein theattenuated virus is a chimeric virus that expresses an epitope of aforeign pathogen.
7. The attenuated swine influenza virus of claim 1, wherein pig cellsare PK(D1) cells, PK(15) cells, PK13 cells, NSK cells, LLC-PK1 cells,LLC-PK1A cells, ESK-4 cells, ST cells, PT-K75 cells, PK-2a/CL 13 cellsor SJPL cells.
8. (canceled)
9. The attenuated swine influenza virus of claim 2, wherein the mutation is a deletion at the carboxy terminus of the NS1 gene.
10. (canceled)
11. An attenuated swine influenza virus comprising a modified NS1 gene,wherein the attenuated swine influenza virus is TX/98/del 126,TX/98/del 99 or TX/98/del 73.
12. An attenuated swine influenza virus having an altered interferonantagonist phenotype, wherein said virus comprises a mutation in theNS1 gene resulting in a deletion of between the 105 carboxy terminalamino acid residues and the 160 carboxy terminal amino acid residues ofNS1.
13. The attenuated swine influenza virus of claim 12, wherein the virusis attenuated by a mutation in the NS1 gene resulting in a deletion ofall of the amino acid residues of NS1 except amino acid residues 1-95,amino acid residues 1-90, amino acid residues 1-85, amino acid residues1-80, amino acid residues 1-75, amino acid residues 1-73, amino acidresidues 1-70, amino acid residues 1-65, or amino acid residues 1-60,and wherein the amino terminal amino acid is number 1 and the mutationin the NS1 gene confers an altered interferon antagonist phenotype.
14. (canceled)
15. A immunogenic formulation comprising the attenuated swine influenzavirus of claim 1, and a physiologically acceptable excipient.
16. A immunogenic formulation comprising the attenuated swine influenzavirus of claim 11 or 12, and a physiologically acceptable excipient.
17. A pharmaceutical formulation comprising the attenuated swineinfluenza virus of claim 1, and a physiologically acceptable excipient.
18. A pharmaceutical formulation comprising the attenuated swineinfluenza virus of claim 11 or 12, and a physiologically acceptableexcipient.
19-20. (canceled)
21. The immunogenic formulation of claim 15, wherein the attenuated swine influenza virus is genetically engineered.
22. The immunogenic formulation of claim 21, wherein the attenuatedswine influenza virus is a chimeric virus that expresses a heterologoussequence.
23-26. (canceled)
27. The pharmaceutical formulation of claim 17, wherein the attenuated swine influenza virus is genetically engineered.
28-29. (canceled)
30. The pharmaceutical formulation of claim 27, wherein the attenuatedswine influenza virus is a chimeric virus that expresses a tumorantigen.
31. A method for immunizing or inducing an immune response in a pig,comprising administering to said pig an effective amount of theimmunogenic formulation of claim 21.
32. A method for immunizing or inducing an immune response a pig,comprising administering to said pig an effective amount of theimmunogenic formulation of claim 16.
33. A method of treating a swine influenza virus infection in a pig,comprising administering to said pig an effective amount of thepharmaceutical formulation of claim 27.
34. A method of treating a swine influenza virus infection in a pig,comprising administering to said pig an effective amount of thepharmaceutical formulation of claim 18.
35. A method of treating cancer in a pig, comprising administering tosaid pig an effective amount of the pharmaceutical formulation of claim30.
36-40. (canceled)
41. A method for production of an immunogenic formulationcomprising:(a) propagating in a substrate the attenuated swineinfluenza virus of claim 1; and(b) collecting progeny virus,wherein thesubstrate is a cell, cell line or embryonated egg.
42. A method for production of an immunogenic formulationcomprising:(a) propagating in a substrate the attenuated swineinfluenza virus of claim 11 or 12;(b) collecting progeny virus;whereinthe substrate is a cell, cell line or embryonated egg.
43-56. (canceled)
57. A cell containing the attenuated swine influenza virus of claim 1.
58. (canceled)
59. A cell containing the swine influenza virus of claim 11 or 12.
60-69. (canceled)
70. An embryonated egg containing the attenuated swine influenza virus of claim 1.
71-77. (canceled)
Links to scientists who hold the patent:
1. Robert G. Webster (holds also a high position within the WHO) – wikipedia.org
2. Dr. Jürgen A. Richt – immunobiology.iastate.edu
3. Richard J. Webby – stjude.org
4. Peter Palese – mountsinai.org
5. Adolfo García-Sastre – mssm.edu
October 31st, 2009 at 10:43 am
I hope the people lose everything. Everything.
They deserve it.
October 31st, 2009 at 10:49 am
Based on over 200pages dedicated to American Indians (Native American sovereign nations), looks to be war on their Sovereignty! Not to mention their septic systems
October 31st, 2009 at 6:11 pm
There is no House Bill number on the document referenced in the article, and when you click on it, you can’t download, only print. I don’t have 4 reams of paper laying around.
What is the HR bill number for this supposed bill?
omg Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:40 am
H.R. 3962
October 31st, 2009 at 7:28 pm
WELCOME TO THE NEW WORLD.
GOD SAVE US, IF IT BE RIGHT WITH HIM, TO DO SO.
SELAH.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:49 pm
My health plan is not so long:
*****All Americans get health care. Talk to your doctor & get better.*****
That was easy!
November 8th, 2009 at 1:39 am
omg this bill is crazy. youngsters if you do not have health insurance as of jan. 1 2010 you will be require to pay penalties for being uninsured and or sentenced to five years in prison for not having health insureance.