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Florida legislator wants random drug tests for the unemployed
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Employers have justified drug tests in the workplace by pointing to such negative effects of drug use as absenteeism and work-related injuries. Now a Florida legislator has proposed that random drug-testing also be applied to those receiving unemployment insurance, justifying it as a way to make state funds go further.
Florida State Senator Michael S. Bennett told Fox News host Steve Doocy on Monday that with the unemployment rate in his recession-battered state running between 10% and 11%, he worries that the Unemployment Trust Fund might be exhausted.
"I wanted to ensure that people who are qualified for unemployment — that the money would be there when they actually go down and get unemployment and that we weren’t supporting the people who were not able to go to work," Bennett explained. "It was nothing against the people who were using the drugs as much as it was to ensure that the people who needed unemployment, it would be there when they got there."
Bill Piper of the Drug Policy Alliance, which is dedicated to ending the "war on drugs," responded that "to require someone to pass a drug test to get their unemployment insurance after they’ve been laid off is pretty cruel — and to require them to pay for the test themselves is even more cruel."
"It’s a pretty degrading process," Piper went on. "You have to urinate in front of another person. … You have to tell complete strangers if you’re on birth control or Viagra or if you’re suffering from depression."
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"He makes a good argument," Doocy agreed. "Unemployment insurance is money that people have already paid into the system. Why shouldn’t they get it if they’re laid off?"
"When you file for unemployment," Bennett replied, "basically you’re saying ‘I’m ready, willing, and — quote — able to go to work. If the person who pays into the unemployment has to pass a drug test … to pay into it, surely the people who are taking out would not object to having to pass the same stringent test. … If you’re not able to go to work because you can’t pass a drug test, why should you draw unemployment?"
"Clearly the people he’s talking about were already capable of working," Piper commented. "They shouldn’t have to take a drug test to prove something to any one."
Bennett, who recently proposed freezing the pay of county clerks and commissioners and similar low-level state employees, may be sincere in saying he is only trying to save money. However, according to election disclosure forms, he did receive a $500 donation to his 2006 election campaign from Abbott Laboratories, which provides workplace drug test kits.
This video is from Fox’s Fox & Friends, broadcast Mar. 16, 2009.
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March 16th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
I AM HAPPY ABOUT THIS. IF I HAVE TO TAKE A DRUG TEST TO WORK AND EARN A PAYCHECK, I THINK PEOPLE WHO DONT WORK AND GET UNEMPLOYMENT, WELFARE, AND ANYTHING ELSE I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE TO GET TESTED BEFORE RECIEVING A CHECK.
Galdemore Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Thanks for the caps lock pal.
Harry Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Um… What the hell are you talking about?
No FEMA Funding Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
This is so Friggin outrageous I am sputtering. Does anyone on these websites ever call these criminals and DEMAND an end to their nonsense?
America, if you wont call up, then shut up – and that includes here.
District Office:
Wildewood Professional Park, Suite 90
3653 Cortez Road West
Bradenton, FL 34210
(941) 727-6349
Senate VOIP: 42100
FAX (941) 727-6352
Statewide:
1-800-500-1239
Legislative Assistants:
Cheryl Ennis and Crystal Fitzgerald
Secretary:
Margaret Clark
Tallahassee Office:
306 Senate Office Building
404 South Monroe Street
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1100
(850) 487-5078
Senate VOIP: 5078
Legislative Assistant:
Jacquie Connell
Email:
bennett.mike.web@
flsenate.gov
Raging Moe Reply:
March 18th, 2009 at 4:54 am
“I wanted to ensure that people who are qualified for unemployment — that the money would be there when they actually go down and get unemployment and that we weren’t supporting the people who were not able to go to work,” Bennett explained.
And the same to you. We want to ensure that our civil servants are qualified. And we aren’t supporting the ones who aren’t able to go to work. So piss in the cup and wait, Mr. Bennett.
Thomas Jefferson Reply:
March 18th, 2009 at 1:46 am
Drug tests are fine. As long as the politicians requiring them are also subjected to them!
Dennis Reply:
March 18th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Drug tests are fine? I totally disagree. They are another invasion of our right to privacy and are a warrantless search, whether by the police or the employer, just another method to keep the people down and the corporate profits up.
robin of locksley Reply:
March 18th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
how they gonna keep the profits up when nobodies working
cant we just kick flordia out of the union
Raging Moe Reply:
March 18th, 2009 at 4:50 am
Cool. Taxpayers can pay for my [clean] friend’s pee. They are SO smart.
Robert46 Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
You’re one of the reasons America has gotten so damm fucked up! Just because you willingly give up your human rights as a supposed Free American doesn’t mean every other American has to be as stupid as you! Whats next dumb ass? people that’s been working hard for 30 years suddenly get laid off shouldn’t even be able to draw unemployment? I hope to GOD on high that when this country has been brought back to a Free Republic that laws are passed to ship dumb asses like YOU who supported every type of govt invasion into Americans lives, will be shipped off to maybe Communist China!
Patriot Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
AMEN! I agree. There needs to be some type of PUNISHMENT for all of the lakey corporate yes men that just go along with whatever some suit and tie tells them. That is exactly why we are in the situation that we are in now. Yuppie Lackies that will do anything just to make it to their next check. Souless cowards!
Mick Jones Reply:
March 18th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Come on Joe, Back in the day you shouted out loud
yourself mate!
TNathe Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
No one is FORCING these people to get unemployment benefits, in a FREE world, you wouldnt be ENTITLED to these benefits because the owner of the company and the other citizens wouldnt need to PAY this for you. You work, you get paid, you dont, then you dont get paid. That isn’t difficult to understand. I agree that a drug test will keep the riff raffs from spending MY money and YOUR money on items that cannot be taxed to be put back into the system.
What you do with YOUR money that YOU work for is your business, but once you come trying to tap into a system built by others then certain rules need to be abided by. Similar to a rule they should make for these bailouts, “you take the money, none of you assholes get bonuses or raises for 5 years”
I'm So Bored With The U-S-A Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
You can only qualify for unemployment benefits in Florida if have been laid off or wrongfully terminated, and even then there are basic requirements that must be met first.
You can’t just choose not to work and receive them.
As for the rest of your argument – if you can refer to crude gibberish as such – should the government keep people from spending their unemployment check on beer and cigarettes?
What about red meat, fast food, or any of the other unhealthy products available to the American consumer?
Chase Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Beer and cigs yeah….theres a reason food stamps won’t allow it too.
Out of Eden Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 7:18 am
Are we supposed to think the drug testing will be free – no charge – gratis? Making the UC benefits even less effective by adding the cost of random drug testing is just plain stupid talk.
Chase Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Great comment TNathe !
Chase Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Im my perfect vision of the world people who speak like “KJ” should be locked up for the way you disrespect people. FAMA camps for A-holes….i’m all for it….Yeah i said it.
Lion King In The Jungle Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
If you people really want to know what is the truth. Jesus has already come back with a new name as Revelation states in chapter three. He is Ras Tafari. Teacher of reggae music. Conquering Lion of Judah in chapter five. Emperor Haile Sellasie I, opening the seven seals. Teaching the twelve elders of zion including Bob Marley a new song. The Ark of the Covenant is in Ethiopia where He designated. Become Rastafari… Survive tribulation
Lion King In The Jungle Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Tell me who stole all of the africans gold. they would trade it for its weight in any other commodity it was so plentiful. Europe is a place where there is no gold, no rubies, no diamonds, no tea, tobacco, corn, sugar, rice, rubber, oil, lumber, its cold and the sun dont shine. The catholics created templars during crusades, created banking using stolen wealth and putting more paper out than they had gold. Yes the descendants of vikings and rome have enslaved us through huge issuances of debt and credit monopolies. If we dont live in divided rome then why are all our languages based on latin.
Destroy Babylon… Chant them down with music as king moses chanted down the walls of babylon. Free africa and the world will follow. where do you think all of the resources to enslave us come from? Reggae has the TRUTH
RoyalT Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Lion of Yahudah. Are you sure that the Ark of the Covenant is in Ethiopia? Cause my understanding is that the Ark of the Covenant will be in YisraEL. Correct me if I’m wrong, using Scriptures,and I mean from the old test.
No FEMA Funding Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
See the entry about calling the congressmen’s office.
Homebrew Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
UNEMPLOYMENT isn’t work, but you earned the right to collect by working. I say NO drug test as a requirement so you can collect what is rightfully yours.
Griz Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
This is an outrage. We pay in to “unemployment insurance” so some fool official can find reasons for the “insurance” not to pay our even though we’re unemployed?
WRONG ANSWER!
No FEMA Funding Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
The psyops here is stunning. The presumption being, that to be jobless is a crime. Equating unemployment with criminal behavior. The sequeway then into being rounded up and imprisoned for unemployment is not that far a stretch- and that is what this FEMA f*KK is edging towards, dont doubt it folks.
Plus it gets everyones DNA and vital biometric markers in the All Seeing Eye surveillance data bank.
Rocky Horror Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
antigovernment??? LOL…
Beavis Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
This is just a way for the government to save money. Plain and simple. They know that a shit load of people smoke weed and will fail the tests so they don’t have to hand over the cash. Fuckin’ assholes!
John_Holmes Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Quick Fix synthetic urine. Works every time.
czzi5 Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
You sir are a moron! You willingly give up personal freedoms to the gov’t and then people like you are also willing to turn your neighbors in, (which makes you a scum bag) and you are the type of asshole who has NO RIGHT to tell anyone what to do. Your type will pay the price one day and it will be of your own making! ASSHOLE! Obviously you are not anti anything just a whiner and LOSER!
enoch7 Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Why do they feel it so urgent to drug test everyone but themselves. Government officials,politicians are never subjected to this shit. They make the decisions on going to war and the things that effect all the rest of us and are lives but none of these hypocrites ever impose drug tests for themselves. You going to dig a ditch you have to piss in this cup.You have the launch codes on all the nukes, have a nice day.
temudgin the great khan Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 11:23 am
why dont politicians have a phsyc evaluation before they take office? how about a lie detector test? lets make them take drug tests before they go in office…. just another inasion of privacy, i mean we have no more privacy!!!
vttruth Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
antigovernment—- get a clue. Sounds like you like government. Drug testing is an invasion of privacy. I would never take a job that invaded my privacy, so you should not either.
dennis Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
so they pay into the program and now they want regulations to collect money youve put in to the system. what if someones so down about being out of work and smokes a joint with a friend they dont deserve their money. more goverment bullshit and control. how far are we going to let them intrude on our private lives. lets throw all drug users in jail and let the pedophiles run rampant. whats wrong with this picture.
CT_Truther Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Caps lock does not make me want to read you comment, but pass over it. Idiot…
The Judge Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
maybe we need to drug test Obama….with all the decisions and appiontments he been making lately..hes either dumb as shyt or on drugs..
SPEAK UP NOW! Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Everyone check this site out and get involved!!!!
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/i.....geId=91398
Giordano Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
This is BS, of course, but honestly, it really doesn’t matter, because soon the economy will be bankrupt and NO ONE will be receiving benefits regardless of what they’ve been smoking.
Harry Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
Well said ANTIGOVERNMENT. I think they should include anal probes as part of the requirement also. If they are getting money for nothing while others have to work then they should be nmade to pay in some other way.
Maybe the unemployed could be required have chemical testing done on them too and if after 12 months they are still unemployed we could just shoot them.
Idiot.
disbelief Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 6:14 am
I can’t believe you Americans have to take a drug test to be employed! I’ve never taken a drug test for any job, even flight attendant. You must be only talking about high responsibility jobs like truck driver or school bus driver.
robin of locksley Reply:
March 18th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
no factory work and telemarketing too
One-World Mafia Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 6:36 am
Another pseudo Libertarian.
Major Karma Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Is liquor a drug? And what about all these people on mood altering drugs given out like candy from doctors? Hypocrites.. such low-life hypocrites. This country is infested with sick people and I don’t see any cure except for me and mine, the answer is to sail away from all you people. I am going to take me and my children as far from all of you all as possible and frankly, I hope you kill each other and this country reverts back to the Indians. Most Americans are sick..very sick, twist, immoral, hypocritical scum… Baby Killers, Liars, Cheats, Thieves, Lazy Self Serving Betrayers. Alex says it better but unlike him, I have lived longer and know most are so screwed up that there is no turning them around. Sometimes the only answer is burn it down and start over but I am no murderer, so I will remove myself and turn my head while all of your karma plays out on all sides.
robin of locksley Reply:
March 18th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
things are going to slide in all dierections
undertow Reply:
March 18th, 2009 at 6:54 am
Drug testing unemployed people in order to receive their benefits is completely absurd and a very scary. What a way for the govt. to label you as a criminal and use the test results against you. Better watch what you say after you fail the test if this becomes a reality.
mountainlionco Reply:
March 18th, 2009 at 11:26 am
“justifying it as a way to make state funds go further.”
They obviously intend to deny more people coverage through this program than what the costs of implementing the program will be.
That means that they will HAVE to deny a certain number of people to justify the expense. They will have a quota to fill.
If you are clean and unemployed, good luck, hope they dont try to slip you a flase positive. What then? You destiny is in someone elses hands.
justwondering Reply:
March 18th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Unemployment it not the same as welfare; you need to learn the difference. Unemployment is money you paid in from your jobs and when you need it, if you do, then it is there. It does not belong to the government, illegal aliens or anyone else.
But, everything is open to abuse. Remember the story about the people who got all this medicare money under fraudulent means? Yah, they were living like big, fat, rich cats on someone elses money.
When you get hired on most jobs nowadays, you have to take a drug test; not a problem. But when you get laid off from that same job, you should not have to take another drug test again. If people go for this, then they deserve everything they get. When you go to get unemployment, there is a whole set of different questions one has to answer than when one signs up for welfare. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING; GOT IT?
March 16th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Out of control, these people want all these drug test, what you can’t get benfits if some THC, in the system,
Now the doctors want piss test before they give you more pills
March 16th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
BUT DONT GET ME WRONG, I THINK NOBODY SHOULD BE TESTED, BUT IF I AM GETTING TESTED TO EARN MONEY THEN HAVE IT STOLEN FROM ME FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND THEN GIVIN AWAY FOR FREE TO PEOPLE IN “NEED” I THINK ITS STUPID
Robert46 Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
You’re a fucking weak minded fool is the reason why you think like you do!
Rocky Horror Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
i worked 20 years at the same job and paid my unemployment for 35 years and never collected.
now this numbnut wants me to get drug tested!
Beavis Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
You’re a fuckin’ dipshit!!
Juice-Man-78 Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Two Thumbs Up !!!
March 16th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Along with the drug test, be sure to bring a complete list of prescriptions you are taking, your doctor’s name/address/telephone, your complete medical records and your complete diet for the last 60 days, including where you ate & where you bought your food. [ A poppy seed roll will show positive for opiates in most quicky drug tests].
And while the government is collecting bio-samples from you be ready to give a DNA sample, blood sample, hair sample, semen sample & stool sample. Get fingerprinted, photographed, scanned, scammed & slammed by your friendly government.
justwondering Reply:
March 18th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Outrage, I love it and how true it is!
March 16th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
I agree that unemployment benefits should not pay for someones drug habbit. People who get high shouldn’t have the right to unemployment….and i am a weed smoker. If i lose my job and want to file i should have to clean myself up and continue to prove that im not using drugs. It’s a law that makes sense.
Robert46 Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Another weak minded fool. Most people especially these days are not getting laid off for some supposed drug use. they are getting laid off because of the economy! Maybe you need to quit smoking….period, because its fucked up your brain so much you don’t even know what a Free Republic is or supposed to be!
Beavis Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Fuckin’ retard!!
czzi5 Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Chase what a moron, you must be butt buddies with anti gov. AND if you are weed smoker what difference does it make if it is unemployment or work ? You are not a weed smoker if you buy into this crap. Tell us who you really are ! Because no weedsmoker is for any drug testing. Do you guys not realize that your urine is your body fluid and what right does the govt have or private employer have to take your bodily fluids.? NONE! But people like you are such sheeple that you go along and you to will get what you deserve one day when you wake up and realize that you are not free anymore and they control you.
Mich307 Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
You’re part of the problem. Your reasoning also indicates that your employer has the right to monitor where and how your earned money is spent.
Unemployment Insurance money is insurance for unemployment fool. Does your insurance company also have the right to monitor and control how and where you spend your claim money??
You are certainly the problem. One must work to be entirled to UI and that is the only criteria – period.
Whether I eat dog shit or smoke pot, should make absolutely no difference in my entitlements!
Get yourself to the camps quick moron!
dennis Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
again what right do they have to tell someone who paid into the system what to do with their money. i notice theres nothing about alcohol which is a drug to. whats next if you smoke cigs you cant get unemployment.bottom line they cant tell us what to do with money that origanaly came from their checks.
Chase Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
You people just dont get it do you. People who don’t smoke up the Government hand outs should have first dibs on the benefits. The people who take their unemployment check and go buy a bag of weed are trash. If they can’t stop smoking in order to receive the benefits then they need to go without eating for a while untill they do.
Chase Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Heres what need to be done. Instead of forcing everyone to take a drug test(which i agree is wrong) We should have harsher penalties for people that get who get arrested with drugs that receive unemployment benefits unless some how they can prove they didnt us the Govenment funds to purchase. Drug testing every single person is not right…
Juice-Man-78 Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Go to a UNEMPLOYMENT web site and see how it works,(Chase) looking like a dumb ass
Chase Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
One day someone will shut that filty hole in your face!
justwondering Reply:
March 18th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Chase, unemployment is NOT welfare.
robin of locksley Reply:
March 18th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
who give this boy dope he done smoked his self retarded
March 16th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
While they are at it they should test all legislators for drugs including alcohol.
BuddyCanUSpareAJob Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Lets not forget the CEOs. A lot of them love coke.
Jeffrey Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Amen to that my brother and I’ve been calling for something similar to that for years now! I would like to see Cops, D.A.’s, Judges, Airport Security Screeners, Prison Guards and anyone else employed in the government (law enforcement and otherwise) be ROUTINELY screened for drug and alcohol use. After all, they are supposed to be the ones setting the example of “good” behavior for the rest of us…so why should they not be held to a higher standard??? I have a feeling that hypocrisy would be exposed to greater degree than any of us could EVER imagine!
March 16th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Might as well get chipped and get the latest Baxter flu vaccine too.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Atypical republican cruelty. I despise the republican party and most democrats aren’t far behind. Many of these “legislators” feel they have to make their mark by creating some kind of law. Worthless is as worthless does. I’ve been unemployed after working many years. This kind of bullshit is not needed.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
ANTIGOVERNMENT,FUCK YOU! You are OVERmedicated and UNDEReducated. I am an Industrial Electrician(Outside Wireman),and I already have to piss in a jar when I pick a slip up at the IBEW Local where I live!
I am currently on Unemployment Insurance now. I paid into it.WANNA KNOW SOMETHING ELSE? The Volkswagen dealership just phoned and told me that I can pick up my NEW 2009 Jetta SportWagen Clean Diesel with DSG transmission on Thursday!
Drug test to get POGEY! What a joke! From Canada!
March 16th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
soooo
who is testing the government ?
why do they get a free pass ?
fucking lets revolt already god dammit
end the fed now
March 16th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
laws for us but not for them. typical! as for the other idiots posting comments, you really can’t be that dense can you?
March 16th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Anybody that thinks this is a good thing don’t deserve to call themselves Americans. Glad I don’t live in that state because i am 100% rebel. You weak minded fools that keep buying in to or going along with these anti-human rights laws that keep getting passed or introduced need to go freaking jump! You are neither Free thinking human being nor a true American as far as i am concerned! Guess this you fools that would go along with this florida law thats being introduced, I have never smoked, drunk, sniffed,popped, shot anything into my body of any illegal nature but gosh darn it i should not have to prove to anybody i am innocent just because! This country has gotten to the top of the heep of a shit pile as far as human rights go!
Chase Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Heres what need to be done. Instead of forcing everyone to take a drug test(which i agree is wrong) We should have harsher penalties for people that get who get arrested with drugs that receive unemployment benefits unless some how they can prove they didnt us the Govenment funds to purchase. Drug testing every single person is not right.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
I have an idea. Let’s do away with both paying into the broken system and also do away with the benefits. I don’t recall the Constitution promising money for not working. The system is hampering my “Pursuit of Happiness” by making my pay check just a little smaller as well as my employer’s. Big Government. Give me my money and I will invest it into something and support myself if/when I need to. The same argument can be made against the Social Security System. I will invest my money into land/farm/guns/gold/silver/food. Whatever. It is my money. If I fail. I fail. I won’t bring down everyone else. I take responsibilty for my own actions. If only everyone else would.
I'm So Bored With The U-S-A Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
In Florida, unemployment insurance is not taken out of your paycheck.
50% of it is paid for by your former employer AFTER you lose your job through “no fault of your own,” and the other 50% comes from the state.
The employer, of course, uses money brought in by the labor of its employees to pay these expenses, and the state uses money brought in through the taxation of these same workers.
That is why those qualifying for unemployment have already “earned” this benefit.
As to people being “forced” to take a pre-employment drug test, this is absolute nonsense.
No one can make you apply for a job where this is a requirement – you could, for instance, become a Florida legislator without taking a piss test – and, due to the limited half-life of most drugs, the only drug that you can really test for this way is marijuana, which the applicant could have smoked months before becoming unemployed and still test positive for.
Bill Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
My sentiments exactly, Dr Mike… however, that takes self-reliant, responsible, independent, thinking beings… something the NWO has been working frantically to destroy… good thing there are a few of us left!
screw the fed Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
amen to that!!!! lets everyone claim individual soverienety
robin of locksley Reply:
March 18th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
oh that every man would tend to his own bussiness
I believe FDR said that
support your local flea market I said that
March 16th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Yea, why doesn’t the gov’t folks get tested every week for there pay check???? To say that unemployed people are most likely dope addicts is crazy. Sounds like to me more gov’t big brother watching BS.
minitman762mm Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Good point.Lets not stop there however.All elected officials should be capped at the same wages that other public service people make.You know,like fire
fighters,real public servants.Target corruption with lots of prison time instead of monetary punishments.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Many idiots on here pose a good argument for forced sterilization. And I’m sure if the NWO puts us in the FEMA camps, people like ANTIGOVERNMENT will be at the front of the line for that. They don’t seem to realize that unemployment is your own money fund that you accumulate based on your earnings. When I collect unemployment, I am not taking YOUR money. I am just getting back money that I made and put in the government piggybank. I earned that money, its not your option to create hoops for me to jump through to prevent me from getting it. As a highly paid single male, I pay an incredibly disproportionate share of taxes. One of the only benefits I partake of the taxes I pay is unemployment. I am sick of leeches like Michael Bennett. Maybe I’m so stressed out that I need to smoke a little weed to deal with being unemployed? Does that mean I am unemployable? Would it be better if I take Prozac and and go out and mass murder a bunch of people? Hmm… maybe that is what the NWO wants.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Yea, Why doesn’t all gov’t folks have dope test before they get their paycheck???? Sounds like to me that unemployed folks are all dope addicts. This is just more big brother watching BD.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Firstly, many people reading this have already enabled these unConstitutional, unScriptural policies. If you are one of these, before unemployment ever becomes an issue, when you get probationary overtones in the workplace, ask your manager for hard numbers. You are there for purposes of business. Do not, under any condition, accept wishy washy lectures about what things seem like, or how they look. Work hard, be accountable, keep records, and make your employer uphold his end of the social contract in a court of law — without volunteering any private information, whatsoever.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
The War on Drugs Lobby feels threatened ~
March 16th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
What a shitcrock!
It’s bad enough I’ve had to turn down decent jobs in the past because I smoke pot occationaly …
Now I’m not even allowed to smoke whilest unemployed?
I had finally found a *good* job where they didn’t really care that I’m a lifelong smoker. As long as I busted my ass every day 12 hours a day: they paid decent wages and everything was just fine.
I get laid off because of a financial coup d’ état, and suddenly I can’t even smoke while having NO job? Go fuck yourself buddy!
You try living on $200 a week UE wages, and tell me *YOU* don’t want to get stoned to forget all about it.
In the past only degenerates became homeless. Several VERY hardworking people I know are on the verge of loosing their homes, because they’ve already lost their jobs, and there aren’t anymore to be found in this area.
And then the Government has the fucking nerve to tell us what we can or can not put into our bodies! FUCK YOU CONGRESS.
How about you guys concentrate more on *WHY* there are so many unemployed people as opposed to what to do with them, and ways to limit their benefits.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
thats bullshit a drug test might as well be called a weed test if we werent so stupid it would be legal becouse the rights lost aren’t worth the minimal risks involved be worth itit is not your bosses place to tell u what u can and cant do in your own time if someone wants to get high let them that myth about lazy drug users isn’t true everyone i know smokes pot pays taxes they deserve to get what they paid into the war on drugs is just a excuse the gooberment is burning the candle on both ends they bring drugs in the us if there were legal just like in the prohibition days criminals wouldn’t sell it anymore because it wouldn’t be worth it for example how many peole buy wiskey from the mafia nowadays or do u go to the store in by it fact is is weed were legal there would be less harder drugs out there more jobs and more taxes but taxes doesnt really meen much couse the gooberment makes a killing selling and arresting people for them im so sick of this work place drug testing is unconstitutional if there was a way to distinguish if u used it on that day sure for workmans comp claims is understandable to to take a test 30 days after smoking pot and failing is just wrong it is noones place to tell u what to do if ur not hurting urself or others then its your right
March 16th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
I guess ANTIGOVERNMENT is just fine with treating the unemployed as second-class slaves.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
And what about the people who don’t use illegal drugs, but refuse to sell out their 4th and 5th amendment rights?
Should they be bankrupted and starve because of their political beliefs?
March 16th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
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March 16th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
ANTIGOVERMENT should just move to COMMUNIST CHINA. He would like it there!
I already have to piss in a jar when I pick a slip up at the IBEW Local.
I am currently unemployed right now! The VW dealership just phoned to say I can pick up my NEW 2009 SportWagen Clean Diesel on Thursday!
How do you like that.ANTIGOVERNMENT!
March 16th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
And let us not forget that with the electronic medical record keeping coming, this will go down on your permanent record!
March 16th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
My first response to this title:
Lul…wat?
Graft Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
I just realized this…. WHO’S GONNA PAY FOR THE TESTS!!!!!!
That’s right, taxpayers.
I'm So Bored With The U-S-A Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
You’re almost right – It’ll be the unemployed taxpayer taking the test that pays – Even if they “pass.”
March 16th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
In Florida, unemployment insurance is not taken out of your paycheck.
Half of it is paid for by your former employer AFTER you lose your job through “no fault of your own,” and the other half comes from the state.
(It comes out to a whopping 50% of your average paycheck, and can be claimed for no more than 5 months, as well.)
The employer, of course, uses money brought in by the labor of its employees to pay these expenses, and the state uses money brought in through the taxation of these same workers to cover its share.
That is why those qualifying for unemployment compensation have already “earned” this benefit.
As to people being “forced” to take a pre-employment piss test, this is complete & total nonsense.
No one can force you to apply for a position where this is a requirement – you could become a Florida legislator, for instance.
Not only that, but the only drug you can reliably test for this way is marijuana – provided, of course, they haven’t taken one of the dozens of reliable products for cheating the test that are currently on the market – and the applicant could have smoked pot months before taking the test and still test positive.
Plus, you have to pay for the test – even if you return a negative result – not to mention the cost of the gas/transportation to get to the test site, and the time lost for your job search.
Luckily, the ACLU has already said they will sue to block this law should it ever pass, which in a regressive state like Florida, is a definite possibility.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
I want random drug tests for all bureaucrats, business owners.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
I HAVE SMOKED WEED EVERYDAY FOR THE PAST 6 YEARS SO DON’T TELL ME THAT I CANT BE A WEED SMOKER, ALL I AM SAYING THAT IF I HAVE TO PASS A DRUGTEST TO WORK THEN BIUTCH YOU GOTTA PASS IT TO GET YOUR FREE BENEFITS, AND THIS IS AIMED MOSTLY AT WELFARE BUT YES ALSO UNEMPLOYMENT, IF YOU ARE SITTING ON YOUR ASS NOT LOOKING FOR A JOB AND SMOKIN WEED OR DOING ANYTHING AND COLLECTING JUST TO BUY DRUGS THAT’S IGNORANT FOR YOU TO WANT THIS TO GO ON. ITS SIMPLE IF YOU GOTTA PASS A DRUG TEST TO WORK FOR MONEY THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE TO PASS ONE TO RECEIVE FREE MONEY. WHY IS THAT UNAMERICAN, WHY IS THAT IGNORANT ALL OF YOU ARE IGNORANT.
Thought_criminal Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
I, for one, don’t “sit on my ass”. I work for cash under the table on top of my UE check and it’s still not enough to pay bills. I haven’t smoked weed since November… because I’m under the impression that mabie just mabie I CAN get another decent job.
If I drive an ambulance… then duh.. obviously I shouldn’t be ABLE to get high at work… It should be a crime (and it is)… But if my job is loading 50lb boxes onto trucks all day.. then who the fuck cares? What’s the difference?
Now that I’m “unemployed”: not only have I *stopped* smoking pot, but I also work various odd jobs for cash.
So you can go sit on it. Just because you are opposed to the Gov testing ppl for doing *nothing* doesn’t mean you wish to sit around getting high all day.
Even when I could afford pot it was only for consumption during evening hours, and not on the clock.
Weither or not I have money (or ability If I wish to get another job) for pot now is irregardless to the fact that I’M NOT ON THE CLOCK IN MY OWN HOME>
If I want to get high (and believe me I really do) … It’s none of the government’s fucking business: I still deserve my UE benefits, because I worked my ass off to get them.
The Ghost of Tom Joad Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Hey tough guy: Blackopsman. I get high, and beat the fuck, out little weekend warrior, pussies, like you, just for shits and giggles. You government trash, or just a pretender? Hopefully the latter, you better have some tactical training, out here BOY, we stomp tough guy, govt. trash like you into the fucking mud. Come on up to West Virginia, BOY, we’re not a bunch of five foot tall mexicans you can push around and feel tough about yourself. When this corn fed, white boys get a hold of you, and skull fucks your big bubbly head, your going to feel it.
Major Karma Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
LOL…another pothead with an opinion.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
OR SIMPLY DO AWAY WITH ALL DRUG TEST, IF I DON’T HAVE TO PASS ONE TO EARN MONEY, THEN I DON’T THINK IT WOULD BE RIGHT FOR SOMEONE UNEMPLOYED TO HAVE TO
March 16th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
In Florida, unemployment insurance is not taken out of your paycheck.
Half of it is paid for by your former employer AFTER you lose your job through “no fault of your own,” and the other half comes from the state.
(It comes out to a whopping 50% of your average paycheck, and can be claimed for no more than 5 months, as well.)
The employer, of course, uses money brought in by the labor of its employees to pay these expenses, and the state uses money brought in through the taxation of these same workers to cover its share.
That is why those qualifying for unemployment have already “earned” this benefit.
As to people being “forced” to take a pre-employment piss test, this is complete & total nonsense.
No one can force you to apply for a position where this is a requirement – you could become a Florida legislator, for instance.
Not only that, but the only drug you can reliably test for this way is marijuana – provided, of course, they haven’t taken one of the dozens of reliable products for cheating the test that are currently on the market – and the applicant could have smoked pot months before taking the test and still test positive.
Plus, you have to pay for the test – even if you return a negative result – not to mention the cost of the gas/transportation to get to the test site, and the time lost for your job search.
Luckily, the ACLU has already said they will sue to block this law should it ever pass, which in a regressive state like Florida, is a definite possibility.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
I sort of agree with antigovernment, I don’t think it is right for anybody to tell anyone what you can and cant do with your life, if you want to smoke smoke, that’s the way I see it. BUT if you have to pass a drug test in order to earn money, and earn a living, why am I gonna give money to someone who sits on there ass all day having no actual intention on finding a job but simply collecting benefits and smoking, o and by the way to the idiot that said “now I cant even smoke while unemployed” hey dumb ass you cant smoke and find a decent job anyways, you’re the kind of person that makes people write this shit. I smoke everyday as well, but if I lost my job, the first thing that will need to be done is to stop smoking weed, because if anybody wants to find a decent job nowadays you must pass a urine test. I think weed should be legal, but while it is not same rules apply to everyone.
I'm So Bored With The U-S-A Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Why would you assume that they’re sitting “on there ass all day having no actual intention of finding a job but simply collecting benefits and smoking?”
If they bought a six pack of beer to drink after a long day’s job search would mean they were getting drunk all day instead of looking for work?
Some pot smokers are highly productive – Just ask our last 3 presidents…
yellowhak1 Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 10:05 am
i see the ids got nothing after that comment. which president was it who said i tried it but i didn’t inhale or i didn’t have sexual relations with that woman?
March 16th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
ha i got in on 420
March 16th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
they need to have, not just a carbon tax…but how about an all-encompassing tax on life?
Just work 40 hours a week, and have it deposited directly into the federal government’s account.
it would save a lot of hassle inbetween.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
The Fourth Amendment clearly states that a person is protected from search and seizure without probable cause. There is no probable cause involved in any form of drug testing. That’s it end of argument. The Constitution has spoken! And if those black robed dictators on the Supreme Court can’t read then we need to get rid of them.
robin of locksley Reply:
March 18th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
I’m sure they can read its their comprehension skills im worried about
March 16th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
What about the CEOs? A lot of them love cocaine.
I'm So Bored With The U-S-A Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Cocaine is usually out of your system within 72 hours, which is why some people on probation for weed end up moving over to blow – They can party on Friday night, and be clean in time for their piss test on Monday.
In fact, most drugs, with the notable exception of marijuana, are out of your system within 1-5 days, making pot the only drug that urinalysis is a really effective test for.
(You could even be on LSD at the time & they wouldn’t be able to tell from the results.)
The test also makes no distinction as to whether or not you have smoked pot – or used any other drug – on the job vs. on your own time at home, and you can test positive for it months after using it last.
Luckily, there are any number of effective products on the market for beating these tests, making them all the more a waste of time & money.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
When they LONG ago began checking credit histories’ as a background check for jobs – I knew then that it was all over. Drug testing aside, why didn’t anyone become outraged by a company doing a check of your personal finances??? What right does any company have to do a check on whether or not you own a home, was late on paying a medical bill or defaulted on a carpayment?? If you are qualified for a job, then you are qualified! But no – corporations pushed it a step further with no resistance from anyone. The very banks and tax structure that has set the people up to fail and helped create personal destruction of peoples finances are the very people who have made it possible for companies to have access to your personal financial situation. So now, drug testing…? Well whats new. You smoke a little weed, take a sleeping pill or whatever you can’t get a job. You dont have a credit score over 750 or you have a debt to credit ration too high, you don’t get a job. You don’t get a job if you are fat, white, or aren’t bilingual. You can’t get a job if you lack 3 degrees and aren’t an uber candidate (read: doesn’t exist in the real world) and if you are lucky enough to get a job…the corp structure and politic makes it hard for you to continue to sustain in the shark-tank where everyone is doing their best to look like they know what the hell they are talking about and spend an inordinate amount of time sabotaging the efforts of the smarter underling or the underling sabotaging the efforts of his co worker and the bosses pretty much collect the fat paychecks and take all the credit. We live in a hostile, nasty, screwed up world and nobody gives a crap about anyone else. The juggernauts are in control – you little Plebs mean nothing!!!
robin of locksley Reply:
March 18th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
well said
March 16th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
WHY would they do something that will cost $$$$$ probably millions of our tax money what a waste THEIR THE ONES THAT NEED TEST NOT JUST DRUG PSYCHOLOGICAL TEST
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March 16th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
why does this web site or fox news not mention that this state senator is a republicon most cons like the drug laws and most dems don’t and that goes for unions, good wages ,healthcare and fair taxes but you keep saying there is no difference i beg to differ.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Randomly drug test all business owners/managers and ALL politicians and Bankers.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Next you’ll have to take a piss test to take a piss.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
In Florida, unemployment insurance doesn’t come out of your paycheck.
Half of it is paid by your employer AFTER you have lost your job “through no fault of your own,” and the remainder is paid for by the state.
(It also works out to only 50% of your average income, and can be claimed for no more than 5 months.)
Of course, the employer uses money generated by its employees to cover these expenses, while the state’s portion comes from taxes paid by these same workers, which is why anyone qualifying for unemployment compensation has already “earned” this benefit.
As to people being “forced” to take a pre-employment drug screen, that is complete nonsense.
No one can force anyone to apply for a position that requires a piss test to be hired – You could become a Florida legislator, for instance.
Luckily, the ACLU has announced plans to sue the state to block this law should it pass, which, as regressive as Florida is, is a real possibility.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
What drugs? If everyone has to get tested Bush Jr. would have failed in 2000. Any year for that matter.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
“However, according to election disclosure forms, he did receive a $500 donation to his 2006 election campaign from Abbott Laboratories, which provides workplace drug test kits”
What a cheap shot at the end of that article. $500 will not influence legislation that MIGHT give Abbott Labs a contract to earn thousands. I would expect better from RAWSTORY.
NOTE: I AM AGAINST the unemployed taking drug tests.
March 16th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
I am an employer and have been for many many years in NC. Every quarter I, not the employeee. me I yours truly, pays into the system for the employees unemployment insurance. And watch out if you lay someone off cause your tax rate goes up. I think the employee should have to pay a fee like other taxes for that insurance if they are the ones going to collect if laid off, not me. I get screwed enough as a business owner.
As far as drug testing……..lets drug test every person that works for the government. From the president down. Then lets give them lie detector tests. Might be the best way to cull out government of deadbeats.
March 16th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Sorry kids it is a GOOD IDEA…Seen too many people who have been using the teat of the state to play and not seriously look for work…All the 20ish year old kids…Talking about their rights but refuse to vote or educate themselves…So fuck it no drug test no welfare, no Section 8, no unemployment etc etc.
As for the “embaressment” of having to write down u take viagra or paxil or whatever? Get over it.
YELLOWHAK1 Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
YOUR OBVIOUSLY USING THE WRONG NOODLE TO THINK WITH
March 16th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
ahaha isnt it so predictable? these psycopaths are always looking to skewer someone to keep the electorate
from focusing on those that always need to he watched – government….hey, you now cant lose your job to outsourcing or corporate swindling withyou YOU being the bad guy!….i agree with some of the other folks…random drug tests and lie detector tests for all those paid on the tax payers dime in power!….they can make the case why not if they dont like it.
March 16th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
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March 16th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Fantastic! Test everyone!! Employed and unemployed alike. Regular random testing for one and all!!! Laborers, service workers, supervisors, managers, executives, teachers, doctors, professors, government employees, CEOs, professors… from the very top of the ladder all the way down to the bottom—every strata of society.
This is a FABULOUS plan. As long as the testing for pot, alcohol, cocaine, amphetamines, barbituates, etc. includes:
Prozac, Paxil, Cymbalta, Zoloft, Wellbrutin, Lexapro, Effexor, Celexa, Fluvoxamine, Elavil, metrazepine, trazadone, Nardil, Parnate, Adapin, Anafranil, Endep, Ludiomil, Norpramin, Pamelor, Pertrofrane, Sinequan, Torfranil, Vivactil, Buspar, Desyrel, Edronax, Remeron, Serzone…. Thorazine, Taractan, Clozaril, Prolixin, Haldol, Loxitane, Serentil, Moban, Zyprexa, Trilaphon, Seroquel, Risperdal, Navane, Vespren…etcetera, etcetera, etcetera…
(may cause: weight gain, weight loss, dry mouth, excessive salivation, drowsiness, sexual dysfunction, nausea, fatigue, excessive sweating, sleepiness, nervousness, blurred vision, crying spells, extreme restlessness, aches, pains, skin rashes, menstrual irregularity, irregularity, loss of libido, agitation, anxiety, constipation, sleep disruption, headaches, abdominal pain, loss of appetite, insatiable hunger, liver and kidney dysfunction, heart irregularities, cognitive dulling, aggression, anger…etcetera, etcetera, etcetera… oh, yeah…and Death)
Ooops…. that would pretty much disqualify and eliminate most of the workforce. And, expose TOO many more layers of the big stinky onion, now wouldn’t it?
Uh, speaking of drugs and alcohol—do a research of how much is paid out via SS and SSI to teens, young adults, and just plain LOSERS (who have contributed little to nothing INTO the system..) that qualify as “disabled” because they have a “substance abuse” problem. They not only get CHECKS IN THE MAIL but housing assistance, utility assistance, free training, counseling, programs, classes and college educations, food stamps, child care assistance… you name it. All the “perks”. These agencies are all networking buddies, and are funded with our tax dollars.
So, I am all for my aforementioned testing. BRING IT ON!
Maybe then I can finally get some real work done around here…
March 16th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Do you want to know what headline *I* would like to see??? “All Politicians are now required to take a drug test”. But that will NEVER happen. Sure, some poor sap that got laid off because the asshole that wants this bill passed is the same asshole that voted to give a few hundred billion to AIG, and now that asshole wants the same guy he got laid off to be drug tested, all the while he’s sitting in his office snorting lines of cocaine. I WANT MANDATORY DRUG TESTS FOR ALL POLITICIANS, AND IF THEY FAIL, THEY ARE AUTOMATICALLY IMPEACHED. I DON’T WANT SOME COKE SNORTING, POT SMOKING METH ADDICT MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT MY LIFE!
Oh, and by the way, who’s going to PAY for these drug tests??? The taxpayer. I’m sure the drug testing companies are ALL FOR legislation like this. I just means more GUARANTEED money in their pockets.
March 16th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
This sounds great but remember the old saying what is good for the Goose is definitely Good for the Gander!
Vicki’s Bill: All Congressmen, Legislators, judges, appointed officials, and the President are to be randomly tested starting immediately!!
YEA!!!!
March 16th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Seriously dude, You shouldn’t support drug testing just because your job requires drug testing. I think America’s drug laws need a complete overhaul. I’m in favor of legalizing so called “drugs” in their natural form. That means legalizing any “drug” found in nature on God’s green Earth including pot, coca, opium, mushrooms and a variety of other plants. You could of course impose age limits and driving restrictions. It’s when people try to change these plants with chemicals and alter their natural state that the real problems begin. Some of these are heroin, meth, cocaine and pcp. Secondly, we need a new institutional layout which treats drug addicts different than common criminals. They shouldn’t go to jail, they should go to mandatory rehab and new centers should be built and new employees should be hired to staff them. These new jobs could replace all the jobs lost by the crooked DEA and all the pigs who fly around in helicopters looking for pot plants.
March 16th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
This legislator is a piece of scum. The people who recieve unemployment have paid for it already. These people are not on welfare, they are using the insurance they have paid for. I say let them do what they want in their own private life, and keep the state out of people’s personal lives. This scumbag is just trying to steal from the people what is already rightfully theirs. This scumbag needs to understand the role of government is not to control peoples lives.
March 17th, 2009 at 12:58 am
This is bullshit. 99% of the failed drug test will be for marijuana and marijuana keeps suicide rates down during heavy mental depression and unemployment. Why don’t they test for alcohol abuse? Oh yeah, it’s legal to get fucked up, rape your kids and beat your wife. My bad. Alcohol is okay, weed is not. Fuck this law!
March 17th, 2009 at 1:53 am
What a disgusting system!
March 17th, 2009 at 2:13 am
It needs to be said that most of the people who are posting on this site need their heads examined. I cannot understand how you all go back and forth and insult each other just because one of you thinks they are more right then the next one. The fact is we are all dependent on the government in some form, we allow ourselves to represent the artifical person created in our name via birth certificates, drivers licenses, social security cards, grocery stores, cars, taxes, etc. You all seem to miss the point that we as a society allow these things to take place and the blame needs to be viewed by looking in the mirror. If we were completely responsible for ourselves, via growing our own food, getting our own water, teaching our own kids, building our own houses, etc we wouldnt be so damn screwed right now. But we as a nation we have forgotten our roots in true freedom, the freedom of self preservations. Now if we didnt have a grocery store or a water system, we would literally starve to death, etc. We have allowed ourselves to need this system and now we cannot live without it. As long as we have all these documents and certificates we will never have true freedom, and as long as we cannot sustain ourselves we will never have true freedom. When will you all realize that the constitution does not give you any rights, instead your rights are endowed to you by your creator. It doesnt matter what act or statute is passed, as long as you rely on their system you will always be subservient to it. So again, if you wish to blame anyone, look in the mirror. You may have not been raised with the tools to take care of yourself and sustain your own life, but as an adult you should be learning how to. As long as we keep buying into these systems, we will always depend on them. That is the beauty of our founding documents, they realized this and that is why this country was founded the way it was. We were supposed to live free of government, being governed only by the liberties we shared as a common humainty. During the industrial revolution we lost sight and failed ourselves. Now we need to take our lives back, stop living as an artificial person, and instead live as a natural person. Example: if a baby is born outside of a hospital and never is given a birth certificate or SSN does it mean that the child has no right to be in this country? If the child is taught to sustain himself, is schooled by his parents, and was allowed to live off the land, he would have no need for the laws of government. But because we have been raised this way, we have no choice but to live under this tyranny, and as long as we live this way, someone will always be around to try and seize power and control the masses.
GulagCentral Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 4:57 am
Joe, very well said. Would you also agree about marriage and the “document”?..i.e. people are just as married without the marriage license and with?
Joe Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Absolutely, a certificate establishes nothing. The love between two people is there whether a certificate is present or not. The marriage license is just another tool they use to make their system easier for the masses to use. If you have it, you can get better insurance or tax incentives. Basically you become more enslaved into the system. I wish people would realize that they have the tools they need to fight this war now, its all just a matter or self-reliance. The same can be said for organized religion. Granted i am a Roman Catholic, but beliefs should not govern ones freedoms, rather be a guide to how we use those freedoms.
March 17th, 2009 at 2:34 am
You first mother fucker ! In fact, drug test ALL of the reps, state and federal !!! RANDOM like…bet those cock suckers are on more shit than we’ve ever seen…passing this legislation as of late…what a bunch of assholes to even suggest this shit ! THEY sell our country out and have the fucking NERVE to suggest testing US for behaviors THEY aren’t held accountable for? The biggest difference between us and the founding fathers is….our founding fathers would of had these pricks strung up and dead before this story even HIT the press….nation of pussies! I’ll take your piss test, OPEN FUCKING WIDE !
March 17th, 2009 at 2:51 am
How about a drug test for all the wall street bailout thieves and all the Bilderburg and Federal Reserve members?.
Are they next going to have a drug test for drug dealers and prostitutes?, what about panhandlers, junkies and thieves.
This is just like dumb and dumber with the law makers being the dumbest.
Just imagine if they did this during the French revolution “let them eat cake but drug test them first”.
Jason Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 8:36 am
I Agree
March 17th, 2009 at 3:34 am
ok i will gladly take a drugs test, all you have to do is drop my pants and open your mouth.
March 17th, 2009 at 4:52 am
Is AJ always this misleading? Look at the photo. Do these people look like Floridians?? They look like Wall Street Brokers. You may say that doesn’t make a diff….but doesn’t it color your first impression? If the diff between me getting or not getting a welfare check over a Mexican/Cuban/Asia/Whitey whatever who was a pot/crack head….test em.
March 17th, 2009 at 5:10 am
First the Florida legislators and their families need to be drug tested. That will stop this business.
March 17th, 2009 at 5:51 am
I say we the people make congress have a drug test, and refuse to pay them if they come back hot, since they don’t pay their taxes most of the time- they must be HIGH!
March 17th, 2009 at 6:17 am
Just another scam for unemployment to NOT pay you. It already takes 6 weeks to get it and without a job, you’re already starving. Scumbags.
yellowhak1 Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
WITH ALL THE SCAMS GOING ON WONDER HOW LONG BEFORE UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS RUN OUT. NOTICE HOW THE VULTURES AT THE TOP ARE GETTING THEIR SHARE AND THAN SOME.
March 17th, 2009 at 7:10 am
Anyone who supports this is an asshole/I just wish i could meet some of these assholes face to face.. you all will look pretty funny with no FUCKING TEETH
March 17th, 2009 at 8:08 am
I do believe Anyone Who Demands Drug Testing as a Norm, Should be drug tested Everyday and a SWORN AFFIDAVIT taken. These CONTROL FREAKS must Go! Evil Little @!@#@@!#$! Curse This Evil Elite that wish to Dictate To Me Or Anyone! Go Stright to Your Loving HELL! I am Tired of your Mind Games, Prapaganda, Double Speak, Your Institutions of Control, And Your Fake Money System. Besides,… Drug Testing Is Illegal Under The United States Constitution, didn’t you Know? 4th and 5th Amendment. Why do you sign for Permission for the test?? Your giving up your Rights! Everyone should know a trade so to flip off these companies that demand testing. I have heard stories from many who say the corperate owner,boss do better drugs than their employees and demand testing. Whats that called?…Hypocrisy !!
Peace
Jason Reply:
March 17th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Oh by the way,….Alex Jones,
I am venting my fustration. It’s all ridiculus, but…? We are screwed….Wake Up All!!!
March 17th, 2009 at 8:51 am
And by the way why don,t you just go ahead and add SMOKING CIGG. DRINKING ANY ALCOHAL and PASSING BEAN GAS you fucking nut!Just like the county I live in if you smoke the county will not hire you and if you smoke you can,t do it when working /and must take smoking classes ???? vDam HITLER didn,t have shit on all these fuckers!!!!
March 17th, 2009 at 10:12 am
truly brainwashing the masses to keep them occupied (infighting) lest they figure out laws they continually come up with are to benefit them and screw the rest of us. this is exactly why there has to be checks and balances because man will take it as far as their allowed. shit how much more proof do people need?
March 17th, 2009 at 10:13 am
I am curious (and this may be a stretch). Let us say that an American loses his job. Let us also say that this American is, after the fact, diagnosed with a serious disease/disorder that would affect his ability to gain employment for some time (if ever).
Following the statement of “able to work”, does that then mean that said unemployed American (one who actually “contributed” to the taxpaying scheme) will not be qualified to receive unemployment benefits due to his medical condition?
I use this as an example because a friend’s parents, who worked for the same auto manufacturer for many years, were laid off simultaneously. They were both diagnosed with debilitating disorders. My friend’s mother was diagnosed with MD and his step-father was diagnosed with cardiomyopathy and a disorder that restricts his breathing (not asthma). Would they not have been qualified to receive benefits? As it took over one year for them to receive SS benefits, the unemployment benefits helped greatly.
As I said, that may be a bit of a stretch. Perhaps I am reading too much into the politician’s proposal. Given Obama’s attempt to have the VA reimbursed for medical care promised to injured/disabled members of the military via private health insurance, such a thing would not be surprising.
March 17th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Gee whiz, the guy gets campaign money from a pharmaceutical company that makes drug test kits!! What are the odds of that? This waste of skin needs to be taken out back of the state house and whipped with a rubber hose until he gets it.
March 17th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
TEST ALL THE POLITICIANS, NOW!!!
They must be snorting, smoking, shooting some really goooood stuff.
March 17th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Y’all are fucking joking right the big shot CEO sters are using mAD drugs, and the bad ones too like coke n shit…drug tests only bust bud users as the rest of that shit gets out of ur system in 4-48 hours….
WAKE THE FUCK UP
March 17th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Why is everything about rights? You make drug testing for state $ seem wrong, you make fingerprinting for transfering property seem wrong…i agree it should be across the board…All state, federal and county workers should be tested…All including judges, legislators etc.
But my only question is if you have nothing to hide then why worry?
March 17th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
I am shocked at some of the ignorant comments on here! Those of you who think your taxes are paying for unemployment and say it is a good thing to hand over bodily fluids in order to recieve some miniscule, puny little unemployment check when you are laid off..NOT FIRED but laid off..usually because the place you worked either failed in businees or let you go wrongly..not because your lazy but because you want to work but can’t. You are unaware of how Unemployment benefits work..please research before you say anything for this intrusion of privacy that basically says you are guilty untill proven innocent!
These banks are not lending out to businesses so they are laying people off and in most states there is nobody looking to hire. Most businesses will lie to keep a person from recieving their due unemployment payment.
Meanwhile AIG is using your tax money and even your unborn Grandchildrens future earnings to give themselves bonuses in the millions!!!!!
Come on people..aim your anger in the right direction please not at your fellow citizens who are struggling maybe a little sooner than you but trust me..you also will suffer because the market may appear to go up sometimes but things are going to get even harder…we have to stick together because if you think these bankers are all of a sudden going to grow a heart for your plight, crawl out of their nice warm jacuzzi and give the money back you are fooling yourselves!
Thomas Jefferson Reply:
March 18th, 2009 at 1:50 am
Here, Here! Spot on! Couldn’t have said it better if they paid me!
Blondebrainstorm Reply:
March 18th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Do you think funds that supply unemployment with an operating budget are “free”. Do you think money for those funds is simply printed without cost to the American public? Every expenditure made by a local, state, or the federal budget has to be accounted for by the taxpayers. To say that unemployment benefits are not, at some point, supported by taxpayers is attempting to imply that any social benefits exist of their own accord without support.
YELLOWHAK1 Reply:
March 18th, 2009 at 10:29 am
where is your outrage: touche!
March 17th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Wow… with all this hostility, all you self professed weed smokers should take a time out and hit the bong!!!
March 17th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Florida wants your DNA out of that “test” also…
March 17th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Takeing away unemployment benifits would definantly cause a huge surge in violent street crime.
Typical Stupid American Politician…
March 17th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
been smoking ever since i was 15 not even as late for work in 20 years. always a way around these test BE CREATIVE.
March 17th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Well, they need to drug test OBAMA FIRST, lol.
March 17th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Well drugs should be banned anyways…I am figuring what NOW wants doing that…usually they want everyone on crack ..high and dizzy….
March 18th, 2009 at 1:45 am
WHO IS THE KING OF TEXAS
I will show myself on April 22 in Waco Texas at the massacre site. I am calling as many Christians of this nation who can find the time to come and see what it is that you don’t even know that you want.
I have the answers for the Christians who have never been defended by their government but have rather been oppressed by their so called government of freedom.
I also have the answers to the current generated economic crisis. This is a peaceful gathering for YHWH our God. But you might want to bring a firearm just in case. After all let us not forget what they did to us in Waco. MAY OUR LORD JESUS BE WITH YOU FRIEND.
I realize it is off topic please forgive me.
March 18th, 2009 at 10:33 am
no problem waste more money but if they pass this then all people working or not should take the test so we can piss away more money i think that the government in fla should all be screened and drug tested and hair tested for drugs also wow did he just come off the boat from cuba or what. we as tax payers pay for our compensation threw our years of working some of us are lucky to never have to collect others not so lucky but either way lets piss the whole state and waste more tax payers money what an ass
March 18th, 2009 at 11:28 am
What a bunch of whiny bitches. All I hear is don’t take my wellfare. I say, don’t give my money away to anyone. High or clean. It is my money you greedy, lazy, dope smoking bitches. Reach down grab your nuts and cowboy the fuck up.
March 18th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
I would much rather see them do drug tests on the families who are multi-generation welfare recipients who have never given anything into the system ever. If the government wants to do anything, get rid of the freeloaders first!
March 18th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
we still gonna beat those drug tests its just a waste of MONEY!! AT WHAT PRICE ARE WE GOING TO GIVE UP ALL OUR FREEDOMS????
March 19th, 2009 at 9:43 am
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March 19th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Personally, I have nothing against a drug screen to collect unemployment…having to pay for it out of my own pocket, however, is where I draw the line. I have held my fair share of shitty “McJobs”…I’ve done my time at the bottom the ladder…I paid my way though school, and now I enjoy sitting behind a desk. That fact does not entitle me to anything more than anyone else, it is merely representative of how I made my life, not how you, or anyone else made theirs…but being as it was my way, I have little else to compare to it, and thus view the complete lack of implementation on the “Welfare” system as just sad.
I grew up in a very poor southern state (which will remain anonymous), and watched countless times as “poor” families attained “status” clothing, superior performance cars (for their “family”), and received the best medical care available (dental, vision, or elective surgery) all while living in homes subsidized by the government and while never maintaining a reportable job…and I asked myself repeatedly; “how can they do this?”.
The answer, surprisingly enough, was a simple one…The government allows it to happen.
Until this country is either overrun with poverty and strife, or taken over by another country (most likely without ever firing a shot)…or we the People decide we have been fucked over enough and decide to change things (ala V for Vendetta style)…we will suffer countless more indignities and ruthless atrocities…until we change how (and who) things are done.
March 19th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
chen say,soon you will smell the head of a chinese pecker under your nose when china take over and crush fat stupid american.hehe.
March 19th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
chen say,soon you will smell head of chinese pecker under nose.when china take over and crush fat stupid american.hehe.
March 19th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
It’s understandable that taxpayer’s don’t want “their” money going to anything but the bare necessities. They’ll overlook this incremental step to make the usually unavoidable state unemployment to move from a common and unfortunate situation to something immoral and criminal.
“Conservatives” love misery; unemployed and broke isn’t bad enough – those bums should feel and look miserable at all times. May as well include prohibiting cigarettes, beer, candy bars, chewing gum, ketchup, watching TV and basically anything except a bowl of gruel on a semi-regular basis.
Add mandatory wake up and bed times and require walking the streets 8 hours a day looking for a job that either isn’t there or you can’t get. Basically school detention / being grounded for adults. And if that’s not strict enough, or if they don’t show the proper amount of humility and shame, there’s ALWAYS enough money to put them in jail. That will teach people not to be unemployed in a country that exposed all it’s labor jobs and has a terrible education system!
All well and good until the usual voting blocks of the old loose their their pensions and Social Security and the “Christians” are unemployed too. THEN they’ll cry about having the Government and Police on THEIR backs, and what they do with the money THEY paid in taxes to cover unemployment should be their business how they spend it when receiving it back.
What goes around comes around.
March 20th, 2009 at 8:34 am
This initiative is actually good and about time they brought it in. The ammount of dole bludges I know of that spend there incom on drugs is beyond what most would expect.
You see the thing is, dole bludges are useally unmotivated, lazy people who don’t grasp the concept of achievement like most people. They don’t spend most of their dole on neccessities, most is to secure the drugs that they liv off. Because they are involved in this scene and people, they are useally involved in crime also, as they don’t work they have lots of time, and also need more income as drugs is a costly thing. So getting the people off the dole who shouldn’t be on it will change allot of these people; the need to get a job will motivate them and when eventually getting a job will be beneficial to there morality and psycological status and reduce crime and make a stronger economy.
The down side is allot of clean people are going to feel an invasion of privacy and being stood over with a draconian initiative.
Personally, I would veto the idea and spend more resources spying on suspects of abusing the system.
March 21st, 2009 at 7:16 pm
I do not agree with drug testing for people who recieve unemployment. They worked for this money and it is a short term program. What I would like to see is required drug testing for anybody receiving welfare. Now these people are the drains of society.
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