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  • Flying Pigs, Tamiflu and Factory Farms

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    F. William Engdahl
    Global Research
    April 29, 2009

    If we are to believe what our trusted international media report, the world is on the brink of a global pandemic outbreak of a new deadly strain of flu, H1N1 as it has been labelled, or more popularly, Swine Flu. As the story goes, the outbreak of the deadly flu was first discovered in Mexico. According to press reports, after several days, headlines reported as many as perhaps 150 deaths in Mexico were believed caused by this virulent people-killing pig virus that has spread to humans and now is allegedly being further spread from human to human. Cases were being reported hourly from Canada to Spain and beyond. The only thing wrong with this story is that it is largely based on lies, hype and coverup of possible real causes of Mexican deaths.

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    Pigs
    Pig Factory Farm Industrial Production is a classic breeder of disease and toxins but little attention is being paid to this source.

    One website, revealingly named Swine Flu Vaccine, reports the alarming news, ‘One out of every five residents of Mexico’s most populous city wore masks to protect themselves against the virus as Mexico City seems to be the epicenter of the outbreak. As many as 103 deaths have been attributed to the swine flu so far with many more feared to be on the horizon. The health department of Mexico said an additional 1,614 reported cases have been documented.’ We are told that the H1N1 ‘shares genetic material from human, avian and swine influenza viruses.’1

    Airports around the world have installed passenger temperature scans to identify anyone with above normal body temperature as possible suspect for swine flu. Travel to Mexico has collapsed. Sales of flu vaccines, above all Tamiflu from Roche Inc., have exploded in days. People have stopped buying pork fearing certain death. The World Health Organization has declared  a ‘a public health emergency of international concern,’ defined by them as ‘an occurrence or imminent threat of illness or health conditions caused by bioterrorism, epidemic or pandemic disease, or highly fatal infectious agents or toxins that pose serious risk to a significant number of people.’2

    What are the symptoms of this purported Swine Flu? That’s not at all clear according to virologists and public health experts. They say Swine Flu symptoms are relatively general and nonspecific. ‘So many different things can cause these symptoms. it is a dilemma,’ says one doctor interviewed by CNN. ‘There is not a perfect test right now to let a doctor know that a person has the Swine Flu.’ It has been noted that most individuals with Swine Flu had an early on set of fever. Also it was common to see dizziness, body aches and vomiting in addition to the common sneezing, headache and other cold symptoms. These are symptoms so general as to say nothing.

    The US Government’s Center for Disease Control (CDC) in Atlanta states on its official website, ‘Swine Influenza (swine flu) is a respiratory disease of pigs caused by type A influenza viruses that causes regular outbreaks in pigs. People do not normally get swine flu, but human infections can and do happen. Swine flu viruses have been reported to spread from person-to-person, but in the past, this transmission was limited and not sustained beyond three people.’ Nonetheless they add, ‘CDC has determined that this swine influenza A (H1N1) virus is contagious and is spreading from human to human. However, at this time, it is not known how easily the virus spreads between people.’3

    How many media that have grabbed on the headline ‘suspected case of Swine Flu’ in recent days bother to double check with the local health authorities to ask some basic questions? For example, the number of confirmed cases of H1N1 and their location? The number of deaths confirmed to have resulted from H1N1? Dates of both? Number of suspected cases and of suspected deaths related to the Swine Flu disease?

    Some known facts

    According to Biosurveillance, itself part of Veratect, a US Pentagon and Government-linked epidemic reporting center, on April 6, 2009 local health officials declared a health alert due to a respiratory disease outbreak in La Gloria, Perote Municipality, Veracruz State, Mexico. 

    They reported, ‘Sources characterized the event as a ‘strange’ outbreak of acute respiratory infection, which led to bronchial pneumonia in some pediatric cases. According to a local resident, symptoms included fever, severe cough, and large amounts of phlegm. Health officials recorded 400 cases that sought medical treatment in the last week in La Gloria, which has a population of 3,000; officials indicated that 60% of the town’s population (approximately 1,800 cases) has been affected. No precise timeframe was provided, but sources reported that a local official had been seeking health assistance for the town since February.’ What they later say is ‘strange’ is not the form of the illness but the time of year as most  flu cases occur in Mexico in the period October to February.

    The report went on to note, ‘Residents claimed that three pediatric cases, all under two years of age, died from the outbreak. However, health officials stated that there was no direct link between the pediatric deaths and the outbreak; they stated the three fatal cases were "isolated" and "not related" to each other.’

    Then, most revealingly, the aspect of the story which has been largely ignored by major media, they reported, ‘Residents believed the outbreak had been caused by contamination from pig breeding farms located in the area. They believed that the farms, operated by Granjas Carroll, polluted the atmosphere and local water bodies, which in turn led to the disease outbreak. According to residents, the company denied responsibility for the outbreak and attributed the cases to "flu." However, a municipal health official stated that preliminary investigations indicated that the disease vector was a type of fly that reproduces in pig waste and that the outbreak was linked to the pig farms.’4

    Since the dawn of American ‘agribusiness,’ a project initiated with funding by the Rockefeller Foundation in the 1950’s to turn farming into a pure profit maximization business, US pig or hog production has been transformed into a highly efficient, mass production industrialized enterprise from birth to slaughter. Pigs are caged in what are called Factory Farms, industrial concentrations which are run with the efficiency of a Dachau or Bergen-Belsen concentration camp. They are all conceived by artificial insemination and once born, are regularly injected with antibiotics, not because of illnesses which abound in the hyper-crowded growing pens, but in order to make them grow and add weight faster. Turn around time to slaughter is a profit factor of highest priority. The entire operation is vertically integrated from conception to slaughter to transport distribution to supermarket.

    Granjas Carroll de Mexico (GCM) happens to be such a Factory Farm concentration facility for hogs. In 2008 they produced almost one million factory hogs, 950,000 according to their own statistics. GCM is a joint venture operation owned 50% by the world’s largest pig producing industrial company, Smithfield Foods of Virginia.5 The pigs are grown in a tiny rural area of Mexico, a member of the North American Free Trade Agreement, and primarily trucked across the border to supermarkets in the USA, under the Smithfields’ family of labels. Most American consumers have no idea where the meat was raised. 

    Now the story becomes interesting.

    Manure Lagoons and other playing fields

    The Times of London interviewed the mother of 4-year-old Edgar Hernandez of La Gloria in Veracruz, the location of the giant Smithfield Foods hog production facility. Their local reporter notes, ‘Edgar Hernández plays among the dogs and goats that roam through the streets, seemingly unaware that the swine flu he contracted a few weeks ago — the first known case — has almost brought his country to a standstill and put the rest of the world on alert. ‘I feel great,’ the five-year-old boy said. ‘But I had a headache and a sore throat and a fever for a while. I had to lay down in bed.’’

    The reporters add, ‘It was confirmed on Monday (April 27 2009-w.e.) that Edgar was the first known sufferer of swine flu, a revelation that has put La Gloria and its surrounding factory pig farms and ‘manure lagoons’ at the centre of a global race to find how this new and deadly strain of swine flu emerged.’ 6

    That’s quite interesting. They speak of ‘La Gloria and its surrounding factory pig farms and ‘manure lagoons.’’ Presumably the manure lagoons around the LaGloria factory pig farm of Smithfield Foods are the waste dumping place for the feces and urine waste from at least 950,000 pigs a year that pass through the facility. The Smithfield’s Mexico joint venture, Norson, states that alone they slaughter 2,300 pigs daily. That’s a lot. It gives an idea of the volumes of pig waste involved in the concentration facility at La Gloria.

    Significantly, according to the Times reporters, ‘residents of La Gloria have been complaining since March that the odour from Granjas Carroll’s pig waste was causing severe respiratory infections. They held a demonstration this month at which they carried signs of pigs crossed with an X and marked with the word peligro (danger).’7 There have been calls to exhume the bodies of the children who died of pneumonia so that they could be tested. The state legislature of Veracruz has demanded that Smithfield’s Granjas Carroll release documents about its waste-handling practices. Smithfield Foods reportedly declined to comment on the request, saying that it would ‘not respond to rumours.’8

    A research compilation by Ed Harris reported, ‘According to residents, the company denied responsibility for the outbreak and attributed the cases to ‘flu.’ However, a municipal health official stated that preliminary investigations indicated that the disease vector was a type of fly that reproduces in pig waste and that the outbreak was linked to the pig farms.’9 That would imply that the entire Swine Flu scare might have originated from the PR spin doctors of the world’s largest industrial pig factory farm operation, Smithfield Foods.

    The Vera Cruz-based newspaper La Marcha blames Smithfield’s Granjos Carroll for the outbreak, highlighting inadequate treatment of massive quantities of animal waste from hog production.10

    Understandably the company is perhaps more than a bit uncomfortable with the sudden attention. The company, which supplies the McDonald’s and Subway fast-food chains, was fined $12.3 million in the United States 1997 for violating the Clean Water Act. Perhaps they are in a remote tiny Mexican rural area enjoying a relatively lax regulatory climate where they need not worry about being cited for violations of any Clean Water Act.

    Factory Farms as toxic concentrations

    At the very least the driving force for giant industrial agribusiness outsourcing of facilities to third world sites such as Veracruz, Mexico has more to do with further cost reduction and lack of health and safety scrutiny than it does with improving the health and safety quality of the food end product. It has been widely documented and subject of US Congressional reports that large-scale indoor animal production facilities such as that of Granjos Carroll are notorious breeding grounds for toxic pathogens.

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    A recent report by the US Pew Foundation in cooperation with the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health notes, ‘the method of producing food animals in the United States has changed from the extensive system of small and medium-sized farms owned by a single family to a system of large, intensive operations where the animals are housed in large numbers in enclosed structures that resemble industrial buildings more than they do a traditional barn. That change has happened primarily out of view of consumers but has come at a cost to the environment and a negative impact on public health, rural communities, and the health and well-being of the animals themselves. 11

    The Pew study notes, ‘The diversified, independent, family-owned farms of 40 years ago that produced a variety of crops and a few animals are disappearing as an economic entity, replaced by much larger, and often highly leveraged, farm factories. The animals that many of these farms produce are owned by the meat packing companies from the time they are born or hatched right through their arrival at the processing plant and from there to market.’ 12  

    The study emphasizes that application of ‘untreated animal waste on cropland can contribute to excessive nutrient loading, contaminate surface waters, and stimulate bacteria and algal growth and subsequent reductions in dissolved oxygen concentrations in surface waters.’13

    That is where the real investigation ought to begin, with the health and sanitary dangers of the industrial factory pig farms like the one at Perote in Veracruz. The media spread of panic-mongering reports of every person in the world who happens to contract ‘symptoms’ which vaguely resemble flu or even Swine Flu and the statements to date of authorities such as WHO or CDC are far from conducive to a rational scientific investigation..

    Tamiflu and Rummy

    In October 2005 the Pentagon ordered vaccination of all US military personnel worldwide against what it called Avian Flu, H5N1. Scare stories filled world media. Then, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld announced he had budgeted more than $1 billion to stockpile the vaccine, Oseltamivir sold under the name, Tamiflu. President Bush called on Congress to appropriate another $2 billion for Tamiflu stocks.

    What Rumsfeld neglected to report at the time was a colossal conflict of interest. Prior to coming to Washington in January 2001, Rumsfeld had been chairman of a California pharmaceutical company, Gilead Sciences. Gilead Sciences held exclusive world patent rights to Tamiflu, a drug it had developed and whose world marketing rights were sold to the Swiss pharma giant, Roche. Rumsfeld was reportedly the largest stock holder in Gilead which got 10% of every Tamiflu dose Roche sold. 14 When it leaked out, the Pentagon issued a curt statement to the effect that Secretary Rumsfeld had decided not to sell but to retain his stock in Gilead, claiming that to sell would have indicated something to hide.’ That agonizing decision won him reported added millions as the Gilead share price soared more than 700% in weeks.  

    Tamiflu is no mild candy to be taken lightly. It has heavy side effects. It contains matter that could have potentially deadly consequences for a person’s breathing and often reportedly leads to nausea, dizziness and other flu-like symptoms.

    Since the outbreak of Swine Flu Panic (not Swine Flu but Swine Flu Panic) sales of Tamiflu as well as any and every possible drug marketed as flu related have exploded. Wall Street firms have rushed to issue ‘buy’ recommendations for the company. ‘Gimme me a shot Doc, I don’t care what it is…I don’ wanna die…’ 

    Panic and fear of death was used by the Bush Administration skilfully to promote the Avian Flu fraud. With ominous echoes of the current Swine Flu scare, Avian Flu was traced back to huge chicken factory farms in Thailand and other parts of Asia whose products were shipped across the world. Instead of a serious investigation into the sanitary conditions of those chicken factory farms, the Bush Administration and WHO blamed ‘free-roaming chickens’ on small family farms, a move that had devastating economic consequences to the farmers whose chickens were being raised in the most sanitary natural conditions. Tyson Foods of Arkansas and CG Group of Thailand reportedly smiled all the way to the bank.

    Now it remains to be seen if the Obama Administration will use the scare around so-called Swine Flu to repeat the same scenario, this time with ‘flying pigs’ instead of flying birds. Already Mexican authorities have reported that the number of deaths confirmed from so-called Swine Flu is 7 not the 150 or more bandied in the media and that most other suspected cases were ordinary flu or influenza.

    (To be continued) 

    Notes

    1  Health Advisory, accessed in http://www.swine-flu-vaccine.info/.

    2  Ibid.

    3 Centers for Disease Control, Swine Influenza and You, accessed in
    http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/swineflu_you.htm.

    4 Biosurveillance, Swine Flu in Mexico- Timeline of Events, April 24, 2009, accessed in
    http://biosurveillance.typepad.com/biosurveillance/2009/04/swine-flu-in-mexico-timeline-of-events.html.

    5 Smithfield Foods website, accessed in
    http://www.smithfieldfoods.com/our_company/our_family/Norson.aspx.

    6 Ruth Maclean in La Gloria and Chris Ayres in Mexico City, I had a headache and fever’ says boy who survived, London Times, April 28, 2009.

    7 Ibid.

    8 Ibid.

    9 Ed Harris, Bloggers Examine Environmental Role in Mexico Swine Flu Outbreak, April 27, 2009, accessed in
     
    http://www.planetthoughts.org/?pg=pt/Whole&qid=2870.

    10 Ibid.

    11 The Pew Commission on Industrial Farm Animal Production, Putting Meat on the Table: Industrial Farm

    Animal Production in America, accessed in http://www.ncifap.org/_images/PCIFAPFin.pdf.

    12 Ibid.

    13 Ibid.

    14 F. William Engdahl, Is Avian Flu another Pentagon Hoax?, GlobalResearch, October 30, 2005.

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    121 Responses to “Flying Pigs, Tamiflu and Factory Farms”

    1. Franky goes to heaven Says:

      1st….YAY ME !!!

      Franky goes to heaven Reply:

      Pfffff….says you :P

      Newspeak Reply:

      Hate Speech Bill in House slippery slope to banning free speech!

      Alert! Alert!

      Beware “extremist” talk in the near future!

      Infighter Reply:

      The title of this article is funny.

      agentbluescreen Reply:

      Once again it’s the global mercantile monopolist Free For Us Only Trade crimes coming back to haunt us.
      “…widely documented and subject of US Congressional reports that large-scale indoor animal production facilities such as Smithfoods Granjos Carroll are notorious breeding grounds for toxic pathogens…”

      When the slaves die so do the masters….

      Sam Reply:

      Swine Flu is a big Hoax! It was discussed in Obamas meeting with Mexico! Its all part of Obamas plan for “Change” into a New World Order!

      BM Reply:

      Wher do you get your facts from?

      Palehorse Reply:

      Agree Remeber the Y2I scare? Anthrax scare? Every flu scare of each “Administration”?
      Scary is this insane group of criminals in D.C.

      “… April 29, 2009 posting … this morning CNN and other news sources posted that the “patient zero” was discovered in a small village in eastern mexico … his mom thought he got sick from a local pig farm … sounds pretty “scientific” to me … wow … they sure must think people are stupid out here … more people have died from the “regular flu” but this is being tauted as very serious by obama who is appropriating 1.5 billion dollars … for what ??? shots … will this be the beginning of the scare that starts people flocking to take their chip laden shots ??? there are many other sources covering these issues but one thing is certain … what we call the “95 percenters” … the sheeple … will take this bait hook line and sinker … remember that by the geneva convention you cannot be required to take a shot … jim mccanney …’ – http://jmccanneyscience.com/

      Jeremiah Joseph Sturk Reply:

      I HAVE TOLD YOU
      I AM TELLING YOU
      THIS ALERT IS A PRE-EMPTIVE STRICK TO TRY TO
      STOP THE COMING FORTH OF THE 2 WITNESSES
      MENTIONED IN REVELATIONS 11

      ELIJAH AND MOSES

      F*ck the system Reply:

      Lol i luv that band too Guns n moses rock.
      what airport they flying in from ill get their autographs for my guns n moses t-shirt

      LETS ROCK!!!

      WIDE-EYES Reply:

      lol

      Smart Ass Reply:

      You can’t stop GOD and his plan.Youv’e got to be stupid if you think people of this world can stop GOD and his plan.

      StopSatanismNow! Reply:

      I just love laughing at Alex Jones’ and the 9/11 truth movements futile attempts to derail the NWO agenda by trying to spread vital information about their sinister plans in hopes that people will know what to do when “it” happens.

      But we all know deep down inside that we are all going to die, and there is absolutely nothing we can do to stop this.

      We have probably but months to make peace with our gods before we all get killed by this NWO bioweapon.

      Joe Sucker Reply:

      You ARE THE PROBLEM. PEOPLE LIKE YOU WILL SACRIFICE YOUR OWN CHILDREN. to make sure we are ALL decieved. You have been triple spoofed. your the Con man getting decieved thinking you out con the con man who has decieved you into thinking you know how the Con Man is decieving you.

      Niko Reply:

      There is no point in what you just said, if we are all to die, I would rather die fighting. Also, they are not going to kill us all, if they even plan to kill us at all, they are going to obviously have to have a population to control, its just stupid of them to kill us all. Also there has never been a virus that has caused the extinction of a species as of yet, its very hard to kill across such a large area, also how would they survive, and really for what reason? Instead of blaming your lack of action on the fact that you belive it is inevitable, why don’t you accually do somthing? Especially if you are going to die, why don’t you fight them? Bring down the bastards who want to end us all, if we die, we should take them with us.

      rougueliberty Reply:

      …if nothing matters then why bother even telling us that? Because that is what matters to you. Nothing. Sorry to here you have nothing to live for other than your inevitable death…thats your choice. Not mine. The new lame order is going down[.]

      Liberty4free Reply:

      Hopefully, I will get a chance to take you out before I go…LMAO

      PityOnYou Reply:

      Agreed. Don’t stand in the way of the NWO, why even bother. They can have what they want, I’m not stopping my government.

      flying pig...oink... oink... Reply:

      This is really crazy. Now they are going to kill all the pigs because of a man made virus… Bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mad cows and flying pigs……………

      Get a clue……………. Get informed at: http://www.thegrandawakening.com

      lordofcheestos Reply:

      some insight into end days http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page how to make a cannibal holocaust

    2. yellowhak1 Says:

      do i see pigs flying or was that pink elephants in the room. damnit! i shouldn’t have taken the tamiflu

      Social Viability Reply:

      Yes!

      We should all take our Tamiflu and stop doubting the motives of our pharmaceutical companies and the politicians they buy with their election campaign contributions.

      Ignore the fact that it would take at least 6 months to create a vaccine specific to whatever virus this swine flu is supposed to be.

      Ignore the vested interests in creating this scare. (“Don’t Panic!”)

      Ignore the fact that the flu kills 40 million per year and that vaccinations often give you the disease along with a bunch of side effects and some nasty preservatives like formaldehyde and mercury along with them.

      Shut up, be obedient, remain frightened and submit to your masters’ will.

      Or: Ignore their crap and do everything you can to promote your health and prosperity in positive ways. Whichever.

      Don’t fight the system:
      Replace it
      http://socialviability.com/

      rat Reply:

      ? did the Tamiflu look like a tiny little postage stamp ?

      John_Holmes Reply:

      What I wouldn’t give for 1 or two of them ‘postage stamps’ right now – just to forget about all of this crap and be happy, if just for 1 day.

      yellowhak1 Reply:

      you mean the blue ones?

      blue pill Reply:

      Tamiflu is gonna be made into the form of a blue pill.

      HA! Would make sense if it were a blue pill.

      yellowhak1 Reply:

      i was just joking or should i say “hinting” to the postage stamp thingy but anyways i haven’t a clue what tamiflu looks like but that would be pretty funny if it were

    3. Chosen One Says:

      They are being used like cattle.

      They have inferior health care thats one reason so many want to come here and its free for them. The only ones suffering are the innocent. Is not that always the case in every culture? Its not a life threatining situation unless your mal nurished, an infant or elderly.

      All you christians need to read this verse and so do you NON-believers.
      James 1:27 “Pure religion and undefiled before God is this: to visit the fatherless and the widows in thier affliction and to keep oneself unblemished from the world” KJ

      Mark Reply:

      I am impressed with the down to earth, intelligent points here and comical too I might add.
      Most of the time you get christian new age wackos commenting on thier beliefs. I did not know something like that verse was in the bible.

      http://www.myspace.com/markrenne

      blue pill Reply:

      I read that 3 times and did not get it. :(

      Translation? :)

      James 1:27 “Pure religion and undefiled before God is this: to visit the fatherless and the widows in thier affliction and to keep oneself unblemished from the world”

      Chosen One Reply:

      It gets complicated if you want to translate from greek but its a simply statement.

      Fatherless = orphans = people without a father(or spiritual father), and widows = old ladies without husbands. Unblemished = you still posses your own soul =
      without BLAME = innocent

    4. slenderghost Says:

      Yup…

      We are the swine…

      They will have their way…

      Not if I don’t take their “pill”…

      Stupid sheep…er….pigs…

    5. Newspeak Says:

      Hate Speech Bill in House slippery slope to banning free speech!

      Alert! Alert!

      Beware “extremist” talk in the near future!

    6. slenderghost Says:

      Hey – ever thought of this?

      The idiot box chatterheads talk of us not travelling to Mexico…

      Have any of them mentioned that it would be wise for them to stop travel FROM Mexico?…

      Just asking…

      Maybe I’m wrong…

      Maybe the pig vomit is making me woozy…

      Lex Pakistan Reply:

      I bucked the trend and went down to my local mexican food joint and got me some super nachos. When the W.H.O. goes to level 5 I’ll head for the hills, I’m not scared of the flu, I’m scared of the government!

      Chosen One Reply:

      I have very little fear. Dont be afraid of anything. Its called FAITH

      Fear is thier most powerful weapon. James 1:27KJ

      Lex Pakistan Reply:

      “little fear” but you still have it. You tell me not to fear anything? Fear is bad when you hide under the bed from the boogie man. Fear is good when it makes you cautious, and causes you to take action.

    7. RantNation Says:

      This isn’t about controlling a virus, it’s about controlling the people. I’ll soon be heading to Cancun where I think I’ll have a swine flu party. There’s plenty of things in Mexico that will kill you before a flu bug.

    8. CubicleDroid Says:

      In 2008 in the US H1N1 is 98% resistant to Tamiflu according to WHO. In 2007 it was only 30% resistant. http://www.who.int/csr/disease.....te20090318 ed_ns.pdf

      CubicleDroid Reply:

      correction that was 30% in Q2 of ‘08

      rat Reply:

      Please CubicleDroid
      Tell us (for Iam not alone in wanting to know) is Obama still fudgin?.

    9. dAwRf mApLe Says:

      Center For Disease Creation should be the real name.

      http://911essentials.com wouldn’t believe a word the CDC said even if they gave us one of those cool pens doctors get from former cheerleaders who are recruited as pharmaceutical reps.

      1776jedi Reply:

      It’s sad to say, but Big Pharma makes kick ass pens. They write like a dream even though they have crap on them like “Zolodolapram (Zoldolaphyloxycronic-methlyethylbadshit-hydrocloride)”

    10. unhypnotize.com Says:

      Cypher: “I know what you’re thinking, ’cause right now I’m thinking the same thing. Actually, I’ve been thinking it ever since I got here: Why oh why didn’t I take the BLUE pill?”

      This is how I feel sometimes…other times I am happy to know….

    11. An European Voize Says:

      NAU wants Mexico
      not Mexicans

      Lex Pakistan Reply:

      Yeah- Mexico has oil, sandy beaches, warm weather, and good tequilla. I’d hate to see them loose all those lovely senoritas though!

      Joe Sucker Reply:

      DUH!

      Joe Sucker Reply:

      They want a North American Currency. DUH!

    12. A Quesiton... Says:

      So who is using this for fear? This entire thing is BS just like SARS and Bird Flu!

      http://www.smh.com.au/world/on.....-aml1.html

      Only 7 swine flu deaths, not 152, says WHO

      One Answer Reply:

      Geeze, what headline isn’t on the front page anymore? What happend to the articles about the banksters and the FED? How about this, you sheep worry about getting sick from some pigs while I take your money and buy the farm.

      Joe Sucker Reply:

      Dito

      Rush Limbo Reply:

      Dito Too. I uh,uh mmm, I , mmm,uhh Agr,mmm,uh ee, aGREE!

      Francisco Reply:

      Very possible. I believe Alex will come out with the final number, after all. Doctors are not aware yet because they are performing post-mortem exams (or specific autopsies), that we know. Other bio “agents” are also possible.

      Chosen One Reply:

      Make up your own mind. The DEVIL, Bankers, Politicins, Police, Preist, anyone in a position of power is more likely to be hiding a perversion. “The wolf in sheeps clothing” Its evil! I think thats obvious.

    13. jonnyairtime Says:

      Americans love to eat swine now the swine will have its last laugh the Bible reads .. you not to eat swine.. but then you don’t read in America you just watch the Tv tube ….. Americans making fun of Muslims for not eating swine looks like the Muslims were right all along …. why eat filth …. The Pig Factory Farm is a classic breeder of disease…. if Americans were real Christians they would not eat swine … oh well keep sending Robertson yr 10% he needs another jet

      Michael(FL) Reply:

      That’s OLD Testament, buddy. When Jesus accepted the sins of the world, everything changed. That’s what CHRISTIANITY is.

      I Should Have Taken The Blue Pill Reply:

      “I come not to abolish the law, or the prophets, but to fulfill it”

      Now what part of fulfill means to do away with? Jonnyairtime is correct, we should not be eating swine.

      Maarten from The Netherlands Reply:

      It is also written in Romans 14:1-3 that those who eat everything and those who eat certain things should not criticise others. The law is to love others as you love yourself and to love God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength. Upon these two commands is based the entire law.

      UHHH Reply:

      Rom 6:15. Rom 3:31, 1 John 3:4 STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR EATING SWINE

      Michael(FL) Reply:

      Maarten from the Netherlands said it for me. Thank you, Maarten.

      Please do not condemn other Christians.

      What does being under the law have to do with eating pork?

      What does entering your mother’s womb a second(being reborn in Christ) time have to do with eating pork?

      I’m not an idiot, thank you.

      Cows,cats and dogs are filthy!! Reply:

      Have you ever been to a slaughter house? All caged animals are filthy. I had a pig for a pet for about 15yrs and this is one smart animal. My pig never smelled bad never messed in the house and never rolled in a bloated festered up opossum that had been baken in the sun for days like my dog did a week ago. You can eat what a pig can eat. Pigs eat mostly roots vegitation and small animals like moles. They will not eat where they make, unless you cage them. My pig never messed in the house even when it was a piglet, only when she started to loose her back legs. My pig was the easiest to house train than any of the dogs or cats I have own. Pigs will not eat dead things, unless it was cooked and smothered in butter. Pigs are demonized and why? Mostly from religion. Jews, muslums, and from some chistains. I find it ironic that these people can hate one of gods beautiful creation. People are misinformed when it comes to pigs.

      I Should Have Taken The Blue Pill Reply:

      their digestive system is different than most animals. They are not able to release toxins, and those toxins get absorbed inside their flesh.

      Nobody said they hate God’s beautiful creation…..just that they aren’t good to eat.

    14. will say Says:

      raking in dough selling vaccines admitted ineffective. i agree with cubicle droid. again, research.

      http://www.who.int/csr/disease.....0ed_ns.pdf

    15. Jason_pod Says:

      Interesting findings.

    16. booshdingo Says:

      ALEX NEEDS TO HIRE SOMEONE TO SPELL CHECK THESE STORIES….

      “A research compilation by Ed Harris reported, ‘According to residents, the company denied responsibility for the outbreak and attributed the cases to ‘flu.’ However, a municipal health official stated that preliminary investigations indicated that the disease vector was a type of fly that reproduces in pig waste and that the outbreak was linked to the pig farms.’9 That would imply that the entire Swine Flu scare might have originated from the PR spin doctors of the world’s largest industrial pig factory farm operation, Smithfield Foods.”

      “TYPE OF FLY”?

      Joe Sucker Reply:

      Hey BOO, You added an apostrophy after farms and before 9. You need to check yourself before demanding perfect grammer from everyone else. Have nice day. Come again.

      Thom in Tejas Reply:

      “FLY”, as in a type of insect that is attracted to feces. Most likely buzzing around your head at this moment.

    17. mp Says:

      http://johnofallfaith.multiply....._Auschwitz

    18. HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Says:

      Welcome my son…Welcome… toooo Machine!!! Pink Floyd nails it from 1973!!! But don’t fret folks…the “New” Sheriff of Rock Ridge will save us all!!! Word Up!!! A little Pimp-A-Hol is the cure y’all!!! Voodoo in da’ house brothers!!! It’s all gooooood!!!! “All ‘Thermal Expansion!!!”

      Pink Floyed Animals! Reply:

      I can see you know your Floyed. Animals says it all. For all who have never listen to Animals check it out!! Animals is my favorite Floyed album. And yes I did say album. Albums that are far older than CD’s. Ain’t it funny that you can find albums that are over 40yrs old and you still can listen to them and if you take care of them they still sound as good as they did when you pulled it out of the wraper. So much for new technology.

      Thom in Tejas Reply:

      Pink Floyd:Sheep
      One of my favorite songs….

    19. PIGS IN SPACE Says:

      SWINE+HUMAN+SPANISH=PIGS IN SPACE!

    20. saywhat Says:

      Sorry for being off subject here, but this is something I feel everybody should be supporting.
      .
      Tim DeChristopher… a guy with big cojones that decided to make a stand and fight the system, not using guns but something more powerful.. his ideas on how to beat them.
      .
      Check it out….
      .
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ature=fvsr

    21. rose Says:

      regardless if it’s “hype” or not! the fact remains it’s here! millions upon millions of concerned citizens will become pantic over something such as this. if it isn’t containted! the ramafacations and pandamoneium. caused will be so over whelming. no one will be able containing it! no world government will be able dealing with it! millions upon millions. including the president. have smaller children and grandchildren lives. taking into consideration. the comment made by obama. “there’s no cause of “alarm.” regarding this out break of “swine flu.” sounds typical. but ten to one. he’d sing a different tune. if it ever came into washington d c. crossing his desk at the white house! does anyone remember the movie known as “the out break?” it was about the ebmoil virus. where it came into a small american town. the situation got so bad. the president issued. a low impact nuclear divice being dropped. even though this movie was “fiction” or not “real.” the question here remains. what “IF!” myself. i shatter to think of that kind of scenierio! it must be remembered. obama is by far one of the most powerful men on earth! with just a stroke of the pen. it becomes law! and once it does. there’s not much someone could do! with the pictures that were taken. they have shown people wearing face masks. the red cross. and even colen powel! ( as it looked as though it might have been him. in one of the pictures taken! the same with the red cross. ) and the C D C wearing invirormental protection suits. since that is the case. regarding this. what is that suggesting? sounds more like it’s air born! not being contracted from person to person! or being contracted from pigs! the pictures that were taken. showed sear fear, terror, hopelessness. sadness and the other things. associated with something of this magnatuide! ( and there’s some things. “hype” or the camera “can’t hide!” or “play down!” “no matter what!” ) does anyone feel the hot breath of horses nostrils. breathing down the back of their neck? does anyone hear the sound of thundering hoves? does anyone’s hair stand-on end? does anyone have that “creepy” “crawly” feeling? like goose bumps raising on them? does anyone have that sixth sense. some thing “big” is about to happen ,”SOON!” it’s as though the whole world is crying out! as though it’s going through labor pains! “what I say unto you.” “I say unto all.” “WATCH!” this has a much deeper and perfound meaning. it would do well. “thinking about it.”

    22. Indecent Proposal Says:

      WHen I was a small child i lived on a pig farm, there is nothing clean about it. I know where i live the farmers put the manure on the crops for fertilizer. My dad was raised on slaughtering and eating pig. Try to get him too eat pig now is impossible. And not just that he takes it too another level when he is at a restaurant when he orders a burger he tells the waiteress he doent want a ham burger he wants a steak burger, if it has ham in it he dont want it. Of course he is only messing with the waitress like all old timers do, but Let me tell you its embarrassing at times, well all the time when we go out to eat. lol
      I really think that these high fluentant (pun intended) officials dont really know what the freak is going on. Seriously, its like the three monkeys, hear no evil , see no evil , says no evil.
      they dont know what is really going on, they are just too busy wiping every ones arse instead of getting to the real issues, and at which they know the issues but send some smuck out to the media who hasnt a clue, hence the three monkeys.
      I am sure there is a hell alot of kickback going on back in forth between Smithfields , Tyson, and the Big Corp PHarmesuticals to not only congressinial folks but all the way to OB.(pres. Tampon)

      My dad also no longer buys supermarket eggs or chicken, he would rather get it from a farmer or a local meat shop instead of going to the supermarket.

      One more thing that burns my ass about the Corp world is that Walmart used to be “American Made” used to be a time when you could buy clothes or other items that were made here in America, I challenge any one to go to Walmart and find any thing made in the USA. YOu would probably spend the entire day there to find something, most of it comes from China or Other Countries.
      This whole fucking birdswinehuman flu has now hit my state and I am worried for my 8 month
      old baby. She hasnt been out of the house since this epidimic but we got to go out some time.
      My fear is because the closest store to me to buy food is Walmart I have to take her with me,
      I am afraid she will get sick in the check out lane. Or get contaminated by the fruit that comes from mexico or south america.
      There is no way Ill let her take that tamiflu and she sure wont get vaccinated for chicken pox either. Man I am sick of these vaccines that are making children sick like the MMR getting children to have Autism. Not my girl you can take that to the bank. I mean your mattress.

      Sorry I rambled alot. Thanks for the sounding Board.

    23. Ethel Benson Says:

      Egypt is now going to kill all their pigs. LOL people ~ please never forget that the ELITE live for BLOOD SACRIFICE. Animal sacrifice gets them exited and all worked up. Ironically also, pigs are one of the most intelligent of animals AND their body parts are even utilitzed as replicants for parts used in humans for open heart surgery.
      SO ~ PAY ATTENTION ~ blood sacrifice with each of these animal THREATS — don’t forget the MAD COW disease. All of these are CONSTRUCTS, they are INVENTED and perpetrated by the NWO.

      Hugs
      Ethel

      HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Reply:

      So…how’s your son Carol??? “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”

      Warrior Priestess GrandMa Reply:

      Hugs back Ethal

      Thanks for voiceing Your insite, and, thanks for knowing !

    24. Solutions Says:

      NOTICE

      Due to delays in vaccine production, the pandemic has been postponed until further notice.

      Warrior Priestess GrandMa Reply:

      : ) : (

      blue pill Reply:

      “NOTICE

      Due to delays in vaccine production, the pandemic has been postponed until further notice.”

      If wolf bliztzer on CNN said that, about 40% of the people watching would fall for it. 55% would not notice what he said. ?)

      yellowhak1 Reply:

      BLUEPILL: LOL!

    25. NC1165 Says:

      Note 11 – The Pew Commission on Industrial Farm Animal Production, Putting Meat on the Table: Industrial Farm

      hahahaha – that’s funny!

    26. JAJA Says:

      The farm history is the perfect scapegoat, i dont believe a word of it

    27. Rambo 3 Says:

      The flu was engineered, and the cure is worst than the diseace !

    28. Salty Dog Says:

      Does Smithfield foods really know the truth?

    29. Solutions Says:

      I find it HIGHLY fascinating that Russia(former Soviet Union) that was in fact light years ahead of the US in terms of viral bio-weapons, has recently banned all US meats in their country in responce to the pandemic flu.

      When the Soviet Union collapsed, US virologists were floored and shocked to learn from Soviet researchers how advanced they were. IMO, the Russians are not stupid and anyone that thinks they are a bunch of fools for banning pork and meat products should put their thinking caps back on.

      Other countries also refuse to purchase US meats because we feed our livestock GMO grains which CHANGES livestock proteins and amino acids. When you consider that differences in protein and amino acid chains is also what makes one species different from another, then maybe the Russians are not so stupid afterall, since this difference is the also the very basis of cross species disease barriers.

      It may very well be that eating GMO meats or livestock fed with GMO grains, may make a population more prone to contracting certain viruses, or potentially more fatal when such a designer virus is actually contracted.

      Like what happens to someone who eats lots of GMO fed pork, when the swine simultaneously develop a designer strain of the Swine flu? Would it be easier for the virus to be lethal among those that have consumed the same combinations of amino acids and proteins. Keep in mind that petri dishes work based upon the fact that specific nutrients such as protiens and aminos are not only a diagnostic observation, but are also an enabler that’s actually necessary for a postive cultrue.

      The question becomes, what do the Russians know and does eating GMO pork and meats turn humans into more receptive petri dishes when an outbreak occurs?

      jojo Reply:

      what you say is highly interesting. and disturbing.
      i eat quite a bit of pork.

      could it perhaps be economic warfare under cover of public health/ food safety.?
      please comment.
      i believe you know what you speak of.

      quite disturbing.

    30. libertea1776 Says:

      This “Swine Flu” is being used because the majority of the sheeple will side with the government against the patriots refusing vaccination. Also, pigs aren’t its origin, so why the deceptive name “Swine Flu?” Well why is the Federal Reserve called the Federal Reserve, why is the Patriot Act called the Patriot Act? Deception. Also, this will be used to implement the Animal ID act regulations even though its origins are a man-made synthetic virus, and an overwhelming majority of people oppose preposterous regulations like animal ID.
      It is clearly becoming a pretext for martial law and UN control in the former Amerika.

    31. nader paul kucinich gravel Says:

      A huge government that lies is worthless.

      And deadly.

    32. pssst Says:

      Special Alert: The Swine Flu Pandemic – Fact or Fiction?
      By Dr. Mercola

      Where did This Mysterious New Animal-Human Flu Strain Come From?

      Alongside the fear-mongering headlines, I’ve also seen increasing numbers of reports questioning the true nature of this virus. And rightfully so.

      Could a mixed animal-human mutant like this occur naturally? And if not, who made it, and how was it released?

      Not one to dabble too deep in conspiracy theories, I don’t have to strain very hard to find actual facts to support the notion that this may not be a natural mutation, and that those who stand to gain have the wherewithal to pull off such a stunt.

      Just last month I reported on the story that the American pharmaceutical company Baxter was under investigation for distributing the deadly avian flu virus to 18 different countries as part of a seasonal flu vaccine shipment. Czech reporters were probing to see if it may have been part of a deliberate attempt to start a pandemic; as such a “mistake” would be virtually impossible under the security protocols of that virus.

      The H5N1 virus on its own is not very airborne. However, when combined with seasonal flu viruses, which are more easily spread, the effect could be a potent, airborne, deadly, biological weapon. If this batch of live bird flu and seasonal flu viruses had reached the public, it could have resulted in dire consequences.

      There is a name for this mixing of viruses; it’s called “reassortment,” and it is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created in the lab. Some scientists say the most recent global outbreak — the 1977 Russian flu — was started by a virus created and leaked from a laboratory.

      Another example of the less sterling integrity of Big Pharma is the case of Bayer, who sold millions of dollars worth of an injectable blood-clotting medicine to Asian, Latin American, and some European countries in the mid-1980s, even though they knew it was tainted with the AIDS virus.

      http://articles.mercola.com/si.....e-Flu.aspx

    33. Warrior Priestess GrandMa Says:

      Maybe its Miss Piggy’s Revenge, for that time when Jesus sent all the demons into the poor piggys than made them jump off a cliff into the ocean

      Pay backs a bitch !

    34. Wounder Bug Says:

      I saw the video about the 10-in-one vitamin thing on this web site. I am ordering it because its on Alex Jones site and it sounds good. Has anyone been taking it? Any feed back on it. I ordered it cause it said if your not satisfied you can return the empty bottle and get your money back. I know i don’t get the vitamins i need everyday and i will take a shot every morning of that stuff if it gives me what i need 20 bucks a day. Not much for good health. Any feed back would be helpful, is it really worth buying and taking everyday?

    35. ED Says:

      WAR OF THE WORLDS

      Same now as was then

      People are gullible

    36. madmagic Says:

      I think they might use this to pass madatory national vaccinations laced with even deadlier viruses so that they can mutate into pandemics this way when people start going missing they can blame all the mysterious deaths on the pandemic that they tried to “save” us from…this would create a global “fog of war” to do lots of other dirty deeds in somewhat secrecy…to some the ultimate power is self control…to others it’s control over other people’s lives against their will…

    37. Detrement Says:

      Change?!?

      Thats all you will be left with, spare change.

    38. Cloned Says:

      HMMMMM, maybe this is one way the government can implement cloning of humans and of human organs, oKay it does sound assinine now that i actually wrote it.

      But I think they have been pushing cloning for last what like ten years on animals just a matter of time on human beings. I know they have been growing ears and noses on lab rats, seen a docomentary on it a few years ago. If they clone some one they just might piss off God.

      yellowhak1 Reply:

      CLONED GLOWING PUPPIES ANYONE? REMEMBER THE CLONED GLOWING PIGGIES? HOW BOUT THE LAB RAT GROWING A HUMAN LIMB. CLONED PEOPLE, OF COURSE THEY ARE.

    39. Blondie4030 Says:

      I find it amusing that the influenza virus kills many people particularly the elderly and children. There’s a video of Swine Flu on YouTube from 1976 telling everyone “to get your swine flu shot”. Vaccines kill more then they protect as they contain mercury. If you’ve a good immune system you’re protected against these ‘bio-weapon” laboratory created diseases!

    40. Hate Says:

      Please to remember
      The fifth of November,
      Gunpowder treason and plot;
      I see no reason
      Why gunpowder treason
      Should ever be forgot.

    41. Jacethespace Says:

      I started to wonder about this “pig flu” hype when the bbc interviewed someone coming off the plane from mexico and there quote on tv was ” we came back from mexico and didnt know anything about this “pig flu” until we landed back in England.
      Thats when i started to wonder how much propaganda are they using.

      THE FLYING PIG!!!!! Reply:

      Did they speak spanish? Se habla espanol??

    42. Read it ! Says:

      http://www.chugai-pharm.co.jp/....._12_04.pdf – search for tamiflu in text ! in 2009 +500% ?! – this is from march 2008 !!

    43. Aussie Says:

      A precursor to the current “silent” braindead American mentality:

      Between 16 July 1945 and 23 September 1992 the United States of America conducted (by official count) 1054 nuclear tests, and two nuclear attacks.

      One Thousand and Fifty Four Tests!!!…Oh…and Two Nuclear Attacks…

      The number of actual nuclear devices (aka “bombs”) tested, and nuclear explosions is larger than this, but harder to establish precisely. Some devices that were tested failed to produce any noticeable explosion (some by design, some not), other “tests” (by official definition) were actually multiple device detonations. It is not clear whether all multiple device tests have yet been identified, and enumerated.

      Conducted Below Ground.
      Conducted At Ground Level.
      Conducted In The Atmosphere.
      Conducted In Space.

      All aided and abetted over the decades by a largely “silent” braindead population!!!…the breeders of the current largely “silent” braindead population!!!

      Silent!!!!!!

      Sssssshhh!!!

    44. Koss Says:

      If you just stuck to the facts, and didn’t go on and on about paranoid conspiracies, I would bookmark your site.

      However, correlation do not equate causation, and any conspiracies you dream up, do not include everyone and their dog. There may be smaller “clubs”, but they are probably far less sinister than what is in your dirty mind..

      Aussie Reply:

      Try doing a few google searches “eugenics quotes” “nwo quotes”

      Dirty mind???

      Your not one of the “braindead” are ya’???

    45. frankiefool Says:

      first swineflu case in the netherlands

      also possible false flag attack on the queen of the netherlands today? a car drove into the crowd on queensday today almost hitting the bus with the dutch royal family in it.

      could this be a false flag attack in the netherlands?

      Aussie Reply:

      could this be a false flag attack in the netherlands?

      frankie…drop off the frankie from your username…fool seems quite apt!

      .

      yet another of the “braindead”…there’s a heck of a lot of you fuckers out there!!!

    46. rod blogojevich Says:

      factory hog farming is the most inhumane farming practice in the world. any civilization that allows it needs to be eliminated.

    47. Floyd Fan Says:

      Can’t help but wonder how appropriate PINK FLOYD’s – Pigs song fits the news of the day!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNa551dR6Rc and this song was released just after the 1976 SWINE FLU.

      WATCH OUT- THERE IS A FLYING PIG ABOUT!!!

    48. Floyd Fan Says:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNa551dR6Rc

    49. Floyd Fan Says:

      Sorry for the double post… I didn’t think the first one went through. If you don’t like floyd perhaps you might like BLACK SABBATH – WAR PIGS as another theme song for the mess we are in!

      “Hey you WHITEHOUSE, HAHA CHARADE YOU ARE!” (originally intended for Amy Whitehouse… non the less.)

    50. infogirl Says:

      as the story goes …….mom can i please please have one?……yes dear when pigs fly!

    51. Corpse Slayer Says:

      You said you’d believe me when pigs could fly,
      Well now they can and you’d better ask why!
      The new world order is at it again.
      There’s only so long, until you can’t pretend.
      War was declared on you along time ago.
      Show me your papers! I dare you to say No!
      Open your other eye, and connect the dots.
      A little research, will force you to do lots.
      Real information, facts, not lies and hype.
      Mainstream ad-missions in black and white.
      Pick your jaw off the floor and grab another cup.
      I bet you get arrested screaming, “Wake The F Up!”

    52. Dave Says:

      Check out the top two articles

      http://www.narconews.com/

    53. mystical_pig Says:

      oink, oniky onikidy oink

    54. AreYouKiddingME? Says:

      It seems that heard a while ago that there was a stockpile of Tamiflu which was about to expire.

      I wonder if they are also trying to SELL OFF this stockpile before it expires ensuring they do not lose millions of dollars. Although, seeing they are all poison anyway I do not know why they would not just REPACKAGE the OUTDATED stockpiles and sell it as new later.

    55. THE FLYING PIG!!!!! Says:

      “Look Mommy, there is a pig in the sky!”

      This is a strange disturbing omen.

    56. THE FLYING PIG!!!!! Says:

      I just got an automated call from the FBI!!! FREAKS ME OUT!!!!

    57. Jollyroger Says:

      I don’t know if Obama will exploit the swine flu but I’m sure Alex Jones will.

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