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Former ISI Chief: Mumbai And 9/11 Both “Inside Jobs”
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Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Monday, December 8, 2008
General Hamid Gul, the former head of the Pakistani ISI, told CNN yesterday that both the Mumbai attacks and 9/11 were “inside jobs,” much to the chagrin of host and CFR luminary Fareed Zakaria, who told viewers that Gul’s opinions were “absolutely wrong and thoroughly discredited”.
“When you look at the full spectrum of possibilities, who could have done it, then one knows that Samjhauta Express was a similar case, in which Pakistan ISI was accused. But it turned out that it was the militant Hindus themselves who had killed 68 passengers in that train, and that it was an inside job,” said Gul.
“Now Colonel Srikant Purohit, who is a serving army officer, he has been caught in this particular case. And the whole thing has turned around.”
“So, obviously, there is an inside job.”
The revelation that Mukhtar Ahmed, a “counterinsurgency police officer who may have been on an undercover mission” working for Indian authorities was arrested for illegally buying mobile phone cards used by the Mumbai gunmen, allied with the numerous intelligence warnings proving that the method, arrival and targets of attack were all known well in advance, proves Gul right in his assertion that the terrorists could not have achieved such carnage without help from people on the inside.
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Asked by Zakaria, “What is your hunch as to who did – who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks?,” Gul responded, “Well, I have been on record, and I said it is the Zionists or the neocons. They have done it. It was an inside job.”
“And they wanted to go on the world conquerors. They were looking upon it as an opportunity window, when the Muslim world was lying prostrate. Russia was nowhere in sight. China was still not an economic giant that is has turned out to be.”
“And they thought that this was a good time to go and fill those strategic areas, which are still lying without any American presence. And, of course, to control the energy tap of the world.”
“Presently, it is the Middle East, and in future it is going to be Central Asia,” added Gul.
Gul told Zakaria that the evidence for 9/11 being planned by Osama Bin Laden and executed by Al-Qaeda has not emerged and that the events are still “shrouded in mystery”.
“A lot of people have a lot of misgivings about that. And it’s not only me. I think a lot of people in America would be thinking the same way. There are scientists, there are scholars, who have written articles on it,” added Gul, calling for President elect Barack Obama to set up a new commission to investigate the attacks.
Gul said the attacks were planned inside America by people with a dangerous agenda who have “turned the world upside-down”.
Returning from a commercial break, Zakaria, editor of Newsweek, Council on Foreign Relations kingpin and also a Trilateral Commission board member, told his viewers, “Some of General Gul’s views are simply false. There is a mountain of evidence about 9/11 that refutes his assertions,” but Zakaria failed to cite any of it.
Zakaria was then joined by counter-insurgency expert David Kilcullen who said that the Mumbai attacks bore all the hallmarks of a “clandestine operation or a covert operation style activity,” but when pressed he refused to directly implicate Pakistan in the attack.
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December 8th, 2008 at 9:18 am
Was 9/11 an inside job? Yes.
Did the ISI provide help? Yes.
Can gov’t ever be trusted? No.
Never.
December 8th, 2008 at 9:25 am
Well done that man
December 8th, 2008 at 9:26 am
What hypocrisy, first you promote Fabled Enemies trying to pin blame on Pakistan for 9/11 and now you use an opinion piece from the former head of the ISI in which he accuses America and Israel, are you trying to mind f--- everyone ?
December 8th, 2008 at 9:26 am
Ok. SO who is the “Zionists”?
December 8th, 2008 at 9:27 am
Can we get a utube link to him saying this. I love telling people about this at work but if i cant show them they wont believe me.
December 8th, 2008 at 9:29 am
The Israeli intelligence service is called Mossad and their motto is : “By deception thou shalt do war” .
They are experts at tricking others to go to war for them. They can deceive others to spend all their wealth and blood to fight against the Israeli enemies.
9/11 suckered the USA to fight Israel’s prime threat – IRAQ.
Mumbai is one more step to getting the Indian public ready for another war with Pakistan.
The Israeli Mossad and the Indian equivalent called RAW extensively train together and both target PAKISTAN — the only Nuclear threat to the Antichrist nation of Israel.
December 8th, 2008 at 9:36 am
The Israelites did not kill Jesus, they got the Romans to do it.
The Zionists did not push the Jews of Europe into Israel , they suckered the Germans into doing it.
The Israelis did not murder 1 million Iraqis, they got the Americans to do it.
Who will be deceived next ?
December 8th, 2008 at 9:42 am
There is a a war on your mind and these guys will never pin the blame of 9.11 on Israel. Fabled enemies was a brain ENEMA. By deception they do war and by deception they will lead the truth movement. Our strength is in de-centralized work and grass roots spread of the truth. The “leaders” of some truth movements will propagate 99% of the truth but twist the last 1% so you never know the real culprits. Keep reading and getting info but remember all roads lead to Israel.
December 8th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Hamid Gul mentioned the fact that 9/11 was planned by the Bush Gang as a precursor to world domination. With Obama at helm that plan has not changed. see Going Down Slow http://sxolsout.110mb.com/amer.html
December 8th, 2008 at 9:54 am
#3 Truth Seeker… Don’t be a narrow minded fool… 5 seconds on wikipedia shows this:
“Hamid Gul served as the director general of Pakistan’s Inter Services Intelligence during 1987-89, mainly in the time when Benazir Bhutto was Prime Minister of Pakistan.”
You know Bhutto was no fan of NWO trying to run Pakistan with their puppet Musharraf.. which is why they had to off her… (I mean,.. she bumped her head)
December 8th, 2008 at 9:54 am
This could actually be a good thing:
The Russians are looking to ban Emo and Goth music and lifestyles:
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/.....368995.htm
December 8th, 2008 at 10:09 am
——> “There is a mountain of evidence about 9/11 that refutes his assertions,” but Zakaria failed to cite any of it.”
The last thing these lunimaries want to do is discuss the evidence.
December 8th, 2008 at 10:11 am
#11 Josh B….maybe you can make what your saying clear, you only stated facts, but didn’t offer any opinion.
Facts stated: Hamid Gul was director general of ISI, WHEN Bhutto was Prime Minster.
What does that have to do with Bhutto getting taken out ?
And what does that have to do with Fabled Enemies pointing to Pakistan and now the same people who pointed the finger are using Gul as a supporter of the “Inside Job” theory ?
Don’t insult me again either, I won’t bother responding to adults that can’t act their age.
December 8th, 2008 at 10:20 am
#5 Todd, here is the a link to the interview:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/vid.....ideosearch
December 8th, 2008 at 10:24 am
Only fools would call 9/11 being an inside job a “theory.” That 9/11 WAS an inside job is an irrefutable fact!
December 8th, 2008 at 10:28 am
Hey Todd…Click on the link in the article for the CNN transcripts.
December 8th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Eric Phelps author of Vatican Assassins: Wounded in the house of my friend,says the Black Pope aka the Jesuit General is REALLY running things behind the scene. If you recall Bush said back in March,2003,” this CRUSADE IS GOING TO TAKE AWHILE”.He was right about that for sure. The Jesuit General commands a very disciplined military world wide. Some of their operations include the assassination of JFK and 9/11 to name a few.You might want to check out Vatican Assassins.org
December 8th, 2008 at 10:32 am
Why doesn’t Alex admit when the attacks first occurred he said it was “tribal” warfare,and “those people over there” are always killing each other.As if Mumbai and India are backwards tribal areas.
Why does he still insist that Kasmmir was a part of Pakistan, when Pakistan was a part of India before partition in 1947.History began before 1947.The reason that there is a muslim majority in Kashmir is that the Hindus were ethnically cleansed.
http://www.kashmir-information.com/history.html
How is it the master of information can be so uneducated about this.
Is it bigotry or a misdirection because Alex is serving a hidden (illumonati) agenda?
Can I please get an answer?
December 8th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Alex is not God, Ralph. Do you seriously expect him to be accurate on everything? And when he’s not, you automatically assume that he’s serving some hidden illuminati agenda. Wow. Get a life
December 8th, 2008 at 10:39 am
Sorry Ralph, your information is WRONG.
Kashmir was a Muslim majority area at the time of Partition and this is a well known fact.
The problem was that the ruler was a HINDU and did not want to follow the wishes of the majority of the Kashmiris so he decided to delay the secession from India.
This one act of non-democratic arrogance is what caused the problem we see today.
In 1947 Kashmir, like the rest of Western India was all majority Muslim.
Saying all the Hindus were ethnically cleansed is ignorance. Were they also cleansed from the area now called Pakistan ?
Hindus are still a majority in the Sindh area of Pakistan….. TO THIS DAY.
December 8th, 2008 at 10:50 am
#4 asks, “So, who are the Zionists?”
They are everyone and they are no one. We are survived by hiding from them, by running from them. But they are the gatekeepers. They are guarding all the doors. They are holding all the keys, which means that sooner or later, someone is going to have to fight them. I won’t lie to you, every single man or woman who has stood their ground, everyone who has fought a Zionist has died. But where they have failed, we can succeed. I’ve seen a Zionist punch through a concrete wall. Men have emptied entire clips at them and hit nothing but air. Yet their strength and their speed are still based in a world that is built on rules. Because of that, they will never be as strong or as fast as we can be. I’m trying to tell you that concerning dodging bullets, when we’re ready, we won’t have to.
December 8th, 2008 at 10:51 am
New Video~Visionary’s of a New World Order…For all you Bob Marley fans out there =)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ONRuARwXKg
December 8th, 2008 at 10:53 am
If you watch what Israel has been doing to try to wipe out the existence and memory of Muslims in their area you will see the same pattern of planning, deception and re-writing of history amongst the Extremist Hindus of India.
India and Israel have so much in common and they are the backbone of the NWO.
Both India and Israel claim to be bastions of Democracy and Freedom but a closer look shows that they are actually evolving THEOCRACIES that promote ethnic cleansing of minorities. In this case the minorities in both countries are MUSLIMS.
December 8th, 2008 at 11:11 am
LOL @ #14 Truth Seeker –
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“#11 Josh B….maybe you can make what your saying clear, you only stated facts, but didn’t offer any opinion.”
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Please go study Bhutto and the internal political power struggles in Pakistan between the people of Pakistan and Western influence.
December 8th, 2008 at 11:24 am
Israel=Zionism=Talmudic Rabbis=Judaism. That said, the hatred/pogrom waged against Christian/Muslim populations is at heart a religious war. It is currently directed primarily against Islam because they control both quanities of petroleum and most routes needed to bring other sources of oil to market (the Balkans and the ______stans). One must wonder if Mexico where to find a huge new source of oil, would our border be so porous, or would troops be preparing to open a new front in the forgotten War o Drugs. Food for thought.
December 8th, 2008 at 11:26 am
#12 What????????????????????????????
December 8th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Yoooww this is Alex jones of infobull.com , just buy my tool to purify water it’s on infobull.com , george bush is on cocain but of course i’m not , and everytime someone uses a gun I say it will trigger world war 3 , and where do i say it ?! ON INFOBULL.COM DAMMIT !!!!!!!
December 8th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Why won’t people read the information.Kashmir is an ancient Indian state.The only reason that any part of India has a muslim majority is because they conquered India by force,including the destruction of many hindu temples and sacred sites.
The whole idea of the British, at the time of partition, was to keep India perpetually weak thru never ending war with Pakistan.At the time of partition there were millions of people killed as they migrated past each other.Hindus to India,Muslims to Pakistan.Doesnt anybody know the history?The unfortunate fact is that these people had been living side by side in peace, up to partition.
Due to the sinister British plot ethnic cleansing occured on both sides by the millions.
According to some people’s logic if there is a hindu majority in some part of Pakistan, shouldn’t that area be retuned to India,if the only basis of ownership is religious majority, no matter what the history of the culture is.
As far as Alex goes I don’t expect hiom to be right about everything just the important obvious things.And I expect him to stop Hindu Bashing and eastern religion bashing.
If people can’t respond respectfully to these comments don’t bother.
Try not to be puffed up ugly Americans.
December 8th, 2008 at 11:33 am
i thought I heard Alex’s show insist that he too….was searching for answers. No one, in seeking the truth…will always be right…..all of the time. When people discredit Alex, it is mostly an attempt to elevate themselves above that person. Critics are essentially, weak and feeble minded. The world needs accurate knowledge. not bought and paid for by corporations….not printed by firms with an agenda…..
The Bible indicates…that “the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.” (quote directly from Scripture) If the Illuminati are really worshipping Satan….then you are battling Satan on his terms. You all are trying to set up a government or system that will “work”.
Give it up…..there is, and always will be…only one solution to the world’s problems…
God’s Kingdom…which is what we were taught to pray for.
All efforts by men are fruitless, and doomed to fail…..
Dan 2:44
December 8th, 2008 at 11:47 am
You are critsizing the critics. Does that mean your trying to elevate yourself artificially above them. Does that mean your weak and feeble minded.
Weak and feeble minded is to follow an ordinary fellow man blindly, and to disrespect people who disagree.
December 8th, 2008 at 11:54 am
Listen not brings religion in to this. Some people might not have a belief like your, some are probably spiritual, atheist, agnostic or whatever. Quoting scriptures is feeble minded, because every religion has a different interpertation….
December 8th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
This is so wonderful !! This man called it like he saw it and that means that others who are in positions of power will also sound the alarm as to the trickeries and the deceptions of the new world antichrist order!! Gul had the gull to call them out as traitors and devils who live on lies and deceptions and gross murders!! He should be given much credit for his bravery and courage in revealing the truth of these genocidal and murderous monsters!!
Lets pray that God raises up more political officials like Gul who will show the world the truth and overthrow the lies of the new world antichrist order!! BUT UNTIL THEN; WE NEED MORE PEOPLE LIKE ALEX JONES WHO WILL PREACH THE GOSPEL AS GOD WILL EVENTUALLY DEFEAT THE EVIL FORCES OF lucifer and his fallen angels and his dark lords of evil!! Gor the Great God of Heaven will defeat them all at Armageddon and bring them all before HIS GREAT WHITE THRONE WHERE THEY WILL BE JUDGED AND DUMPED INTO THE GREAT LAKE OF FIRE AND BRIMSTONE WHERE THEY AND those who followed them and took the beast chip and those who refused to give their lives to Jesus before HE RETURNS WILL BE THROWN INTO THAT HORRIBLE FIERY LAKE WITH THEM!! AS THEY SHALL NEVER NEVER TRULY DIE OR CEASE TO EXIST!!
December 8th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
FaReak Craparia is a total propagandist just like the rest of our bought & paid for media lairs. They are paid to continue the lies and distractions while americans run in circles of confusion. At what point do we protest the Propagandists? It should be a crime to report lies without any repercussions. Who’s up for a Media Blackout Day? What would be a good date to assemble and take a stand?
December 8th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Hamid Gul is the first 911 truther.
His September 14, 2001 interview with Arnaud De Bourchgrave said the Mossad and rogue Air Force elements pulled it off:
http://www.robert-fisk.com/ham.....6_2001.htm
December 8th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
if you think about it everything is
a Inside Job this one big social experiment
the illuminati think of us as lab-rats
america is just a cage..
December 8th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8ZrqCWvo88
link to Youtube.com video of his comments
December 8th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Here you go again! The Jews did it? What about the O-Rings on the Challenger? Were they responsible for that too?
Keep recycling this old crap and we will NEVER realize that a cigar is sometimes just a cigar, and that the enemy often is who the enemy appears to be.
Dis information is disinformation.
Open your eyes, and lay off the Jews for a while.
Google “Occum’s Razor” and learn something.
December 8th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
I reckon if 9/11 happened in Russia or China and they invaded Iraq and became legally a nation run by warcriminals(because they signed up with the United Nations) I’ll bet few Americans would find it difficult to believe it was an inside job for China or Russia to invade. As Americans we’d demand to see an international investigation of 9/11. Hell we’d probably storm their country with nukes if they didn’t comply with U.N. rules…hmm I better get my survival fallout plans ready.
December 8th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Obammy’s going to do what? Yea right. Wish in one hand and poop in the other see which one gets full faster. He’s just going to Obomb Obomb Obomb Pakistan, and Iran.
December 8th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Watch the vid!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8ZrqCWvo88
December 8th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Like everyone here I believe 9/11 was an inside job but I really don’t feel many here who blame it on Israel or the Jews is helping the 9/11 truth moverment. As a matter of fact I believe many here who want to blame Israel or the Jews for everything seem to have a totally different, hateful hidden agenda then those of us who are truly seeking 9/11 truth and justice.
Face it, we have many evil people within our own government capable of pulling off 9/11 without the approval or assistance of Israel or the Mossad. What happened on 9/11 didn’t really benefit Israel. We still give them aid. Iraq wasn’t a threat to them before 9/11 or now. In my honest opinion if Israel or the Mossad were truly behind 9/11 the blame would have been placed on Iran or Syria who seem to pose more of a threat to Israel then Iraq did.
We need to look at the facts. What happened after 9/11? Our government used the 9/11 attacks as an excuse to attack both Afghanistan and Iraq. Who benefits from this? The defense industry, share holders and other contractors like BlackwaterUSA . Our government used the attacks to pass draconian laws like the Patriot Acts I & II, the Military Commissions Act, the John Warner Defense Act of 2007, etc, etc.
There is no doubt in my mind that the current economic and financial crisis and the passing of the laws mentioned above after 9/11 were all planned. Those who really control our government want America to collapse into riots, chaos and mayhem so that they can then apply those laws with an iron fist against Americans. They want the chaos in order to fulfill their agenda. With chaos filling our cities and streets Americans will rightfully but blindly be begging for government help and assistance but what we will get is not what we expected. Do not play into their hands by citing violence. What they want and are depending on is groups of Americans preying/killing on other Americans in order to survive. They know with no economy, food shortages etc, man will become animals towards one another. This is the whole key to their evil plan to take over the world.
December 8th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Mossad and Zionism may be jews, but not all jews are mossad and zionists. Stop being little children.
CIA and neocons may be Americans, but if someone criticizes CIA or PNAC or other modern Trotsky-ites, that does not mean they are criticizing all Americans, …you little CHILDREN!
December 8th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Spot on, #42. If Zionists were responsible for 9/11 and other inside jobs, they are but mere pawns. The global elite DO NOT care what religion you hold or which faction you hold company with. Zionists, Islamic terrorists, Hindu extremists, White Power, ISI, CIA… all of them are tools for the real power brokers. Puppets and puppeteers, my friends.
December 8th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Zakaria: Wake-up call for India 2:48
Fareed Zakaria says the Mumbai attacks offer a chance for the government to make much needed changes.
Fareed Zakaria says mother worked at Taj hotel. family had commandos in their home during the raid next to the hotel and have bullets as souvenirs
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/vid.....y.1130.cnn
December 8th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Its official the USA is TOTALLY corrupt! The supreme court wil not ‘hear’ the Proof about Nobamas fake birth records… They were OBvoiusly paid off by illuminati SCUM!!! All Liberals are about to see there chickens come home to roost in their own personal lives…
December 8th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
This Fareed Zakaria guy is total sycophant trash.
December 8th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Is there a video clip for this?
December 8th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Airing Date Dec.07, 2008
Pakistan’s former Intelligence Chief, General Hamid Gul, speaks with CNN’s Fareed Zakaria
Says 911 was an inside job.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19R9H01IB1s
December 8th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
The Illuminati are the terrorists.. identify and expose them! The Federal Reserve (JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Bank of America) The IMF, The Bank of England, The Buildiberg Group , the CFR, the Tri-lateral Commission, Freemasons, and all of their puppet politicians world-wide should be ARRESTED IMMEDIATELY!!!
December 8th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
911 was real the facts have been faked. The conjectures do not support the facts. Do you really think Osama Bin Laden using a 4 watt CB radio could control US Airspace? How did an old sick kidney failure man living 14, 000 miles away control separate non-related terrorist groups in the USA to cause 4 Civilian airliners into a precision well coordinated attack on buildings? Well… how did he do it? Did you ever see a report from the Pentagon or any other Military source clearly demonstrate how this was done? How did a civilian airliner fly into a Restricted Military zone and get past secret missile bases designed to respond and bring down any rouge aircraft within The Washington DC area? How did a 757 or 767 make turns at 500 miles an hour and not be noticed?
60 miles an hour is a mile a minute. 500 miles an hour is 8.3 miles per minute. It would take the aircraft flying into the Pentagon miles and miles to make the correct turns to line up and hit the target area. Nobody saw this odd behavior of a civilian airliner? You mean the radars of civilian and military airfields did not see this 500 mile object making zig zag turns and challenge it? Forget making accurate short 500 mile turns; the Aircraft stress load factors would prevent it.
We are beyond Bluffing here. If jet fuel burns at a maximum of 1800 degrees in the open air, how did the ball bearings in the wheels melt? How did the Titanium parts in the engines disappear? It takes more than 2500 degrees to burn and pulverize human bone, so how did 1800 degrees in a flash do that? Where is the luggage, black boxes, and the rest of the 10, 000 gallons of jet fuel that would have been sprayed all over the Pentagon building? Well where is it? How did Osama Bin Laden get past the most sosphicated spy network in the world? I mean the U.S. has spies everywhere and certainly Osama Bin Laden must have been a person of interest. Why is he #2 or 3 on FBI most wanted list? How is it that 2 of the so called hijackers are alive and flying Aircraft in Foreign Countries? Well what about it? Something is wrong here; the facts do not support conjectures.
December 8th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
#47 unfortunately, that story is true. i read it today on msn news. how much more proof do the obama voters need. when people realize they’ve been played for fools look out, that or they’ll be in such disbelief and numb from the brain down they won’t do anything due to extreme shock.
December 8th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Here’s the link to the CNN video that this article is based on.
December 8th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
omg omg i am jumping for joy let the truth be heard !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GUL is my hero
December 8th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
#3
“first you promote Fabled Enemies trying to pin blame on Pakistan for 9/11″
How do you figure Fabled enemies is trying to “pin blame on Pakistan for 9/11″? They didn’t have a clue that the $100000 was going to someone who was going to end up getting framed for murdering 3000 people on US soil…. Would you have wired Atta the money when you could have sent it via the pakistani embasy, through diplomatic channels and then had it hand delivered to him if you thought he was going to use the money to finance the murser of 3000 people on us soil?
They didn’t know Atta and co were scheduled to be fitted up as patsies until after the fact. The person who the wire transfer was traceable to was told him on the day of 9/11 that they had him (and the rest of pakistan) over a barrel.
That’s why he’d been summoned to washington on that day. because they wanted to tell him face to face that pakistan was goign to be a good little ally in the war on terror…. either that or a useful victim in the war on terror due to the neocons waving the evidence of that wire transfer in the faces of an american public that was, at that time, desperate for a culprit or two that they could punish. That’s why biden was making speeches about “pakistan in particular” having some very difficult choices to make.
The wire transfer to Atta is concrete proof that those who sent it weren’t in on the scheme
December 8th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Wow! This is amazing ———-> http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/1876951,12,1,1,item.html
Check out the comments on this site!
They’re all in Polish but you can certainly understand that when people write about “CIA” or “WTC7″ they may very well be 9/11 Truthers.
Poland is waking up! – what about YOUR country??
December 8th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
i think most of us who come on this website know september 11 was a complete fraud!
anyway, I think ashnbell is right.
I honestly dont think the pakistani government did not know $100,000 was gonna be used 2 frame mohammed Atta and company.
That was a well executed diversionary tactic by the neocons….
These guys are realy clever. we are actually dealing with intelligent conspirators here!
December 8th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
though, i do know 9/11 is an inside fraud, i refuse to give a platform to a Pakastani savage. might as well believe a turk. his statement means nothing, he is a dog who no doubt took part in torture of Pakastani people. why even give this fascist pig a platform? he discredits 9/11 truth. i spit on him.
December 8th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
molten metal burning for weeks after the event,i think says it all.
December 8th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
#47, I hate to say this but you and anyone else who believes these stories about Obama’s supposedly false birth records are fools and being played. This non story has been engineered and pushed by wealthy reichwing conservative nutjobs who are angry because their taxes are going to be raised, they are angry that their party has lost control and all they are trying to do is what they do best, divide by deceiving. They are also angry at the way the left attacked Bush for the last eight years so to them this is payback and they will spin whatever lies they can find on Obama to further divide this country.
Now before I get called out and attacked for being an Obama supporter, I do not think Obama is an angel or perfect but I will not stand still and allow morons to slander the man out of their own anger for their own agenda.
December 8th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
to #52
JM, don’t forget:
1. there are real witnesses who will swear the south tower plane was an air force or MAC jet with a nice blue logo up front. And the videos support that, no tail logo to be seen.
2. the dog that did not bark: where bush was left unprotected from more “hijacked” planes for another hour after the attacks
3. more than enough video (audiovisual) evidence of cutting charges exploding 20-30 floors under the collapsing pyroclastic flow.
4. nobody collected on the insurance on any of those planes, due to lack of black boxes (they were stolen by some spooks identifying as FBI , 2 firemen witnessed that)
5. 2 of the planes are still on the “active list” , meaning they probably didnt even crash, and got “landed” somewhere, crew wellstoned most probably.
6. 6 of the alleged hijackers are still alive.
7. None of the “hijacked” airplane passenger lists contained arabic names. In their place however, we did see an Israeli commando expert in aircraft hijackings, who had AIDS (maybe suicide mission?).
8. Do we really believe a passport survived unscathed and was found after the collapse of the towers ? (Atta’s), Nahhhh, I didn’t think so.
9. WTC7 was pulled by Silvers---, who wanted to collect on the insurance, and get tripple rich.
There are many more, but these are just some that stand out, and see that I didn’t even have to mention Bin Laden.
December 8th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Dear #61: f--- Obama, and f--- You.
December 8th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Pakistani ISI General Hamid Gul ‘9/11 Inside Job’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSLgC4cTKcs
December 8th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
The Reichwing is so obvious I cant believe people still vote republican to be honest. Im surprised it’s not more Democrat/Independant to return this country to a centrist government more representative of ALL its people instead of some NEOcon-job party that represents the top 5% of rich creeps and warmongers. You dumb republicans actually think your party cares about ‘log-cabin’ values???
December 8th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
#62 Kyle, spot on with what you say there!!!!
December 8th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
General Hamid Gul, Former ISI Chief Mumbai And 9 11 Both Inside Jobs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUj9-Xcue08
December 8th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Insidious Prophet,
I believe you’re being attacked because you engage in sophistry and name calling. Using words such as “reichwing”, “morons”, and “nutjobs” don’t support an argument, they just make you appear petty and juvenile. If there are some question regarding his birth records then it needs to be sorted out. I would think everybody would agree, regardless of political persuasion that the law is important and though you want Obama in office, a person shouldn’t want a person in office that has falsified a legal document to become elected. That shows a moral flaw in character and if you support that then we should all be greatly disturbed. If it is found that he is qualified, then there is no arguement and we can continue with our lives. It is time to begin scrutinizing all candidates not just some based on political party. However, your attack on people trying to get to the truth regardless of motivation makes you disingenuous. Obviously, you must be afraid of what could be found.
December 8th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
The CNN interview with Mr. Gul is here too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSLgC4cTKcs
December 8th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
In reading ‘Crossing the Rubicon’, the American Empire only attacks when there is an advantage for them-do not ever think it is to preserve any nations’ freedom, even ours; it is in some cases to gain pipeline access, protection of pipeline construction, or for oil in some way. Dick Cheney has KBR and Halliburton that in so many aspects gains from wars, i.e. from food preparation, trasnsport of food, to construction of cities we destroy–he should be tried for war crimes, treason, high crimes, misdemeanors.
And another reason for the alleged ‘terrorists’ attacks 9/11–NWO –more of our freedoms were taken, and with the next attacks, and there will be, the justification in fear to strip us of more of our freedoms.
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
December 8th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
There is no doubt in my mind that the current economic and financial crisis and the passing of the laws mentioned above after 9/11 were all planned. Those who really control our government want America to collapse into riots, chaos and mayhem so that they can then apply those laws with an iron fist against Americans. They want the chaos in order to fulfill their agenda. With chaos filling our cities and streets Americans will rightfully but blindly be begging for government help and assistance but what we will get is not what we expected. Do not play into their hands by citing violence. What they want and are depending on is groups of Americans preying/killing on other Americans in order to survive. They know with no economy, food shortages etc, man will become animals towards one another. This is the whole key to their evil plan to take over the world.
EXACTLY–TO ELITISTS LIKE GEORGE SOROS, A HUNGARIAN MEDDLING IN OUR POLITICS AND BACKED OBAMA, WE ARE MERE ‘USELESS EATERS’ TO BE EXTINGUISHED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 8th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Zionists are supporters of evey Evil on earth. Those who support the Antichrist nation of Israel and her inhumane treatment of Palestinians are also part of the evil.
A small group of Jews are opposing this disease in humanity.
Check them out at – http://www.NKUSA.org
December 8th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Wow, Muslims have been fighting the evil of Zionism singlehandedly for the past 40 years while we have done everything possible to hurt their effort.
When will we wake up and start helping them, not opposing them ?
December 8th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
obama was born in kenya the information is out their we have a illegitimate president that is a globalist and marxist. He has no real connection to our country besides hes president now. He conned america with the help of his globalist buddies and the media. he may be one of the most anti constitution presidents we have ever had. Ron Paul that’s all i got to say haha
December 8th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
Here is the YouTube link with the actual video…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSLgC4cTKcs
Wow! Wait for evidence? Set up a proper investigative commission? 9/11 to start a phase of global conquest? What novel ideas.
And of course CNN needs to pull the anti-Semite card. Zionists are not Jews. They are about as Jewish as Bush and Cheney are Constitutionalists. They are power whores just like Nazis, Communists, and Anglo-American imperialists of all stripes. Same old tricks, and more people are waking up to it because of the facts and inconsistencies getting out there.
December 8th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
I have come with a message of information.
“The american men are sell out, weak ass, pathetic, coward, pussy, trash.
December 8th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
this sept 11 2001 of him says it all:
http://www.robert-fisk.com/ham.....6_2001.htm
December 8th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
Sorry #42 but you forgot to mention the media and the federal reserve. It is common knowledge who owns both of those entities, without which 9/11 would not have been possible. I know you feel attacked here everyday because you are Jewish (obviously), but defending the criminals behind 9/11 (and most other things) just because you think you are standing up for “your people” is only going to hurt you in the end because when the world finally wakes up and realizes that Zionists (or at least the people who founded Zionism) really are behind 9/11 and everything else, they are going to have their heads and you will be seen as one of their gatekeepers. Do the right thing, stand with us against the monster.
December 8th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
#68 I was calling the groups that are calling for Obama’s birth certificate reichwingers, morons and nutjobs. I call those that believe in this bulls--- story fools. If there was actual evidence of Obama’s birth certificate don’t you think that the Clinton campaign or the McCain campaign would have gone after him on it?
Cripes, they went after him on Reverend Wright, being a muslin, going to an extreme Islamic school in Indonesia as a youth, connected him with Tony Rezko, connected him with Bill Ayers, called him the most liberal senator in the senate, questioned his patriotism, why wouldn’t they go after him on the birth certificate if it were truly legitimate. How could he get a passport without a legitimate birth certificate?
AmericanPsycho…Why don’t you go phuck yourself! You douchebag!
December 8th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
how can you be so dumb Says:
December 8th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
obama was born in kenya the information is out their we have a illegitimate president that is a globalist and marxist. He has no real connection to our country besides hes president now. He conned america with the help of his globalist buddies and the media. he may be one of the most anti constitution presidents we have ever had. Ron Paul that’s all i got to say haha
how dumb can you be, Thankfully not as dumb as you seem to be. What information is out there? Information from??? Rush Limbaugh? WeThePeopleFoundation? Oh you mean those right wing lunatic fringe nutjobs!?! Rush Limbaugh would call his own mother a terrorist if it would make him a dollar.
As I said before. If the claims of Obama’s birth certificate being a fraud why then didn’t the Clinton or McCain campaign take on the issue? Get over it already and focus on something more important like cleaning your mommies cats litter box.
December 8th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
This is quite a high level official to proclaim that statement.
December 8th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
So what. Look at all the high profile people who have come out for 9/11 truth. What bit of difference has it made in waking up the coward dip s--- trash public? None and neither will this.
December 8th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Im kind of with you a little bit #85 but, my beef is with the military you would think that one honest commander would take a look at the nwo crowd and the American people and make the right choice. I mean these guys have guns and tanks and s---. Man they could wipe out the nwo,cfr, trilat,rockefeller..etc..in one fatal swoop. I do not understand why they support a none American gov. I mean why do they go to work in the morning?. Didn’t they swear an oath to support and defend the people from tyrants. s--- work at starbucks , hell its is an honest living.
December 8th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
YouTube video of former Pakistan ISI Chief, states: “false flag.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YUfxHhKf4A
December 8th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
There was a guy that was interviewed about the Mumbai attacts that was there, and he said he was furious at the authorities because they had so…. many oppertunies to shoot the bad guys, and they wouldn’t. He said he was screaming at them “shoot them! why wont you shoot!” So my guess is they were given orders not to shoot by there serpieors.
December 8th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Excellent article… Here is the vid! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8ZrqCWvo88
December 8th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Alex, as usual, does the mad scramble to dance all around the fact that the Jews, yes with the complicity of others, but the Jews were the primary movers in all the important aspects of 9-11…he goes into the Brits and the IRA, the assassination of Ghandi, blah, blah, rambling on about anything but, pointing the finger squarely where it belongs : the Mossad, and their American Jannissaries.
He knows, damn good and well, that if he ever came out and really went after them for the unending list of Jewish crimes perpetrated against America, for many, many years, he’d be off the air or he’d have one of those “single car accidents”.
In any event, it’s been time to move on from 9-11 for awhile, because after all, most people know that, at least, we aren’t being told the truth…but so what?No lynch mobs that I know of…
Americans have been conditioned to accept any outrage, there is nothing anymore that shocks people into real action.
December 9th, 2008 at 1:09 am
#82 insidious prophet
As an adult, Obama has traveled overseas using an Indonesian passport. That does not make his “certificate of live birth” erroneous, but does at least make him a duel citizen, which means he did have to renounce his other citizenship, which he Did Not do!
Oh yeah, a certificate of live birth is not the same thing as a birth certificate and it was several democrats who brought these law suites in several of the states, but then you already knew that, didn’t you? Try to keep up!!!
*Merry Christmas Everybody*
December 9th, 2008 at 1:34 am
Why isnt this website reporting on the 4 guys pleading guilty to the 9-11 attacks? its in the mainstream news!
December 9th, 2008 at 2:09 am
Im not trying to say that 9-11 wan’t and inside job but where is the story about this? No headline on here? Been on all day! Not even a blurb!?
December 9th, 2008 at 2:17 am
“Why isnt this website reporting on the 4 guys pleading guilty to the 9-11 attacks? its in the mainstream news!”
You do realize that it took 7 years to TORTURE the confessions out of these people right? These confessions are not reliable, you can torture anyone long enough to confess to anything. You first clue should have been that it was in the MSM to start with.
December 9th, 2008 at 2:53 am
Of course Mumbai was an inside job. I knew it when i heard it. International Bankers need another war over there. Evil criminals! Who is going to save us?
December 9th, 2008 at 5:40 am
just get my coffee and doughnut mr. hamid if i want to hear bulls--- i’ll put on keith homoman on t.v.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:16 am
The start date for the Mumbai bombing was 26-11-2008, so : 2+6+1 =9 and 1+2+8 =11 (9/11)
PURE ACCIDENT?
December 9th, 2008 at 7:36 am
Something tells me the Chief isn’t bulls---tin. There was quite a fallin out between ISI, cia, mi6,and some other intel agencies…Id prob tattle too if i screwed over.
Hope they dont find him somewhere with a suicide note, gun in his hand, and 12 rounds into his head
As far as Zionism etc. Well lets say…dont let them tell ya it is a position by jews for Israel to exist as a state. Has nothing to do with that. Nazis simply changed their names to Zionist…still got the lighting bolt Z going on and alot of ashkeNAZIs on board that train
December 9th, 2008 at 7:39 am
Wayan Says:
December 9th, 2008 at 7:16 am
The start date for the Mumbai bombing was 26-11-2008, so : 2+6+1 =9 and 1+2+8 =11 (9/11)
PURE ACCIDENT?
very good….you have learned their language.
12/12 The Day the Earth Stood Still. Be interesting to see what they have planned on that day or shortly thereafter.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:45 am
It seems India is the ‘Asian darling’ (along with China) of the new world order. Hey, India’s got Bollywood, just like Hollywood! They’ve got infobabes on TV. Their farmers are growing GM crops. And now India, like all good members of the new world order, has been attacked by the evil Jihadists. Oh, they gotta learn, don’t they. They need a security state, just like us.
December 9th, 2008 at 8:32 am
#100.
Spot on there.
HW Spartan
December 9th, 2008 at 8:46 am
This is unbeLIEvable… what a great story.
Found the vid that goes with the article… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8ZrqCWvo88
December 9th, 2008 at 10:53 am
Did not the prophets of old tell us of the events leading to the last days.Jesus himself told us what the world would be like. The persecution and slaughter of Christians who are not a threat to any political system who are commanded by our holy book to obey and be good citizens and to worship GOD and to tell others of his loving kindness through is son JESUS. Have his saying not come to pass foolish men look up judgement is coming and woe to us all.
December 9th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Good to see that Hamid Gul is exposing the Zionist Jews and their evil agenda, we must continue to expose these evil people.
Latest JCN News info
December 9th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
There is no doubt that Lt. Gen Hamid Gul (Retired) is a master of creative intelligence. He created quite a lot for us here today. Lies, half-truths, obfuscation and line-toeing is his job. Everything he says has a purpose, and not the one you think. Well done to Alex for demonstrating what preparing to blow someone sounds like on the radio.
December 9th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
The former chief must’ve hired soup tasters.
December 9th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Two weeks before the Mumbai attacks the Indian government arrested several Army officers and Hindu Extremists for false flag bombings blamed on Muslims.
The Democratically elected govt promised MORE investigations concerning the infiltration of Hindu terrorists into the Indian Army, Police and RAW.
India was in shock…..never before has a govt had the courage to take on the Hindu Extremists.
The ATS chief in charge of the investigations & his 2nd in command were both killed in Mumbai.
GOOGLE : “INDIA SHOCK ARMY ARRESTED”
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December 10th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
http://www.hirhome.com/iranira.....htm#israel
The true relationship between the US and Israel In 1982, Israel invaded Lebanon because the PLO, from its bases there, was murdering Israeli civilians (in addition to terrorizing the Lebanese population). The Israeli operation was successful, but right as the Israelis were about to deal the PLO terrorists the final blow, the Reagan administration intervened to save the PLO from the Israelis, moreover providing this terrorist organization with a military escort to their new refuge — in Tunis.[23]
Why? Because the US is an ally of Israel?
From Tunis the PLO was finding it very difficult to kill Israelis, so the PLO was in fact defeated, at this time. But once again the PLO’s problems were solved by the US when Bush Sr.’s administration threatened the Israelis for 8 months with the withdrawal of all economic aid unless they agreed to bring the PLO inside Israel, which the Israelis finally did when the Clinton administration continued these policies (known collectively as the Oslo ‘Peace’ Process).[24] This US bully diplomacy, which has allowed the PLO to kill many more Israelis than before, has increased to a high pitch in Bush Jr.’s administration, with the results that we can all see.
Now, would an ally of Israel force the Jewish state to accept as the government over the West Bank and Gaza Arabs an organization — the PLO — whose controlling core, Al Fatah, traces its roots to Adolf Hitler’s Final Solution,[25] and whose founding (and still current) charter states that its purpose is the extermination of the Israeli Jews?[26]
No. An ally would not.
My hypothesis that the US is not an ally of Israel is consistent with sundry other details, such as the fact that, as the Oslo ‘Peace’ Process began in 1994, the CIA was training the PLO, even though the PLO was that very minute explaining in public, in English, to the Western press, that it was going to be killing Israeli civilians (and any Arabs who didn’t want to kill Jews).[27] My hypothesis is consistent with much else besides, which you may verify by consulting HIR’s in-depth investigation into the US-Israel relationship here:
www dot hirhome.com/israel/hirally.htm
December 12th, 2008 at 1:31 am
I have posted a full transcript at proudprimate.com/resources/hamidgul.htm
The mp3 is also posted there, and an email address where to send corrections/suggestions (at least 16 are known to be needed).
This is such an important conversation, every word needs to be established with the highest possible fidelity.
If there are enough interested emails, I could start a blogspot site where everyone can see every other (scholar)’s insights, and benefit from them.