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Former UK ambassador: CIA sent people to be ‘raped with broken bottles’
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Daniel Tencer
The Raw Story
November 5, 2009
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The CIA relied on intelligence based on torture in prisons in Uzbekistan, a place where widespread torture practices include raping suspects with broken bottles and boiling them alive, says a former British ambassador to the central Asian country.
Craig Murray, the rector of the University of Dundee in Scotland and until 2004 the UK’s ambassador to Uzbekistan, said the CIA not only relied on confessions gleaned through extreme torture, it sent terror war suspects to Uzbekistan as part of its extraordinary rendition program.
“I’m talking of people being raped with broken bottles,” he said at a lecture late last month that was re-broadcast by the Real News Network. “I’m talking of people having their children tortured in front of them until they sign a confession. I’m talking of people being boiled alive. And the intelligence from these torture sessions was being received by the CIA, and was being passed on.”
Human rights groups have long been raising the alarm about the legal system in Uzbekistan. In 2007, Human Rights Watch declared that torture is “endemic” to the country’s justice system.
Murray said he only realized after his stint as ambassador that the CIA was sending people to be tortured in Uzbekistan, country he describes as a “totalitarian” state that has never moved on from its communist era, when it was a part of the Soviet Union.
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November 5th, 2009 at 10:06 am
KILL ALL LIARS, NOW.
[SELAH]
Intelligence R Us Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
is it not comforting to think the wars are ABOUT something, rather than just for the hell of it? just to waste people and their money, keep them hardworking and too tired to think. no, it’s not that at all, we have REASONS. the global spread of fear and death is far more valuable than the natural gas. these spiritual gases of inhuman ugliness are the fuel that powers the dark masters, rulers of world church & state.
morethanposting Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:45 am
my stepdad was in the CIA, he says that things went on their that were “unspeakable” he would say all the time, “There are some things that the american people should not know”. Its a shame that they brainwashed him into believing this shit, they brainwash most of the new people in the CIA to believe that doing evil is good. Something similar to how Hitler had most of the NAZI SS thinking they were saving the world by torturing and murdering innocent Jews instead of the Zionist militant ones like David Rockefeller. This is sick and if you have any intent of joining the CIA, you may as well be ready to except SATAN as your master, cuz he definately has more of a control over the minds of the agents than Jesus or God or any benevolent entity.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Sooo.. what’s he doing about it?
Talking about it Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Talking about it, releasing the information and educating people about it. What are you doing?
November 5th, 2009 at 10:09 am
“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”
Adolf Hitler
November 5th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Jeeze I wonder what “We the people” will do with this information. Nothing. Same thing we always do.
Keep posting on infowars, and not doing anything about it.
WTF Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 10:39 am
You obviously dont understand the internet, posting makes the information available to more people. If I repeat “CIA sent people to be ‘raped with broken bottles’” in a comment it increases the visibility of this article slightly, if everyone does it then it helps a lot, information is your weapon and the Globalists know this.
bigoldpuppy Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 11:41 am
WRONG!!
Information only has value when it is dispersed AND acted upon.
Dispersing information alone DOESN’T accomplish squad. You have to get it into the right hands, in the hands of people who want to and will act, not just be informed. Which seems is NOT the same as being vigilant.
You guys are still not ready to accept reality which is rubbed right into your faces and keep thinking someone else will carry the ball for you.
WRONG!!
The ball is yours!!
These are NOT your rulers, they are your ELECTED representatives.
UNELECT THEM.
In reality, laws cannot be changed without the consent of the populace. The inverted pyramid structure we have created and call democracy OBVIOUSLY has some flaws. Your representatives do not represent you because, like most employees, they don’t work worth a dang without proper supervision.
You, my friends, are the supervisors, but YOU didn’t do your jobs and allowed the store to be stolen from you because of your lacks attitude. Don’t blame the thief, blame the guy who places his wallet in the middle of the sidewalk and watches the thief walk away with it!! And THAT is about the whole extend of what is happening at this very moment.
goeleet Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Now tel me BigOldPuppy, What did you exactly do to create change in your surroundings? How did you hold the rulers responsible? Is there some coup d’etat you pulled off I should know about?
I agree that information alone will not change anything, and that it has to be acted upon.
But for the power to be restored to the people, and the establishment to be dismantled, there has to be a time of chaos. Only in a time of chaos can a revolt of the people occur and can a new order (of the people) be created. The chaos is definitely coming, our best chance now is to educate enough people, so that enough people will revolt, when for example the lights go out, wall street crashes, a false flag nuke goes off, martial law is initiated, the razzia’s begin, the water stops running, the ATM’s shut down, or the grocerie stores close their doors. Only then will enough people be ready to take the power back for once and for all.
Goeleet
boycott the junk Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
use whats left of your power and dont buy products from off shore companies those traitors didnt have the guts to fight the system instead left us here to do the dirty work.. MASSIVE BOYCOTTING will send a message.. “…hey,” there sure is ALOT of THEM”!!” were hip to the jive , and we wont BUY your junk.
D Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 11:55 am
As long as unelected power elites control the wealth and the system, it won’t matter who we elect or unelect. Any politician who stands up to them will be turned, disgraced, or killed.
boycott the junk Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
and how do you keep them wealthy?? by BUYING THEIR JUNK,, thats how!!!Refuse to do it sanymore your pistol is in your pocket. Its your wallet.!!
OK lets give up Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
OK Bigoldpuppy
First stage is to get the information out, trust me I know a little about how information is passed around, how can people act if they cant make an informed opinion, I think you are arguing for the sake of it.
Bigoldpuppy Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Yes, to some point you are absolutely right. I AM arguing for the arguments’ sake. And yes, you are right again, that people shouldn’t act until they have information needed to make a decision.
However, this forum is not used to pass information around. It is used to satisfy the need of many to ACT as if they are acting. Armchair revolutionaries, (a term coined by someone some time ago), never accomplish anything besides wearing our cushions.
If you are educated in the art of information dispersal you should offer your knowledge and assistance to those who need to pass information in a private manner.
ConspiracyRealist Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Join Oath Keepers and do something about it.
Ok Lets give up Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:39 am
@ Bigoldpuppy
I do post many many links to relevant articles on various websites/blogs and online newspapers. This is the easiest and most powerful way for many to get information out to as many people as possible or at least those that bother to inform themselves, obviously getting the message across to the average Joe is a little trickier, I know from personal experience that promoting these ideas to ones own family is often met with derision.
One thing though is true and has been true throughout the ages, when the average Joe wakes from his slumber he is not slow to take the fight to them.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:20 am
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November 5th, 2009 at 10:53 am
This is really horrific, I wish I hadnt read this. Why are humans so evil? How can one human do such atrocious things to another? We need an intervention from God , Stat! This shouldnt be allowed to go on any longer. What a tragedy.
doa Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 11:26 am
yeah dipshit “god” will save you?…how about “guns” will save you..
boycott the junk Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
dont be fooled either , by the propaganda… SCARE TACTICS are great intimidators!!! Refuse to be ruled by FEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 5th, 2009 at 11:08 am
How to end the NWO: http://www.freedomguide.weebly.com
Jordan Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Sounds like the perfect scam to me
fiapopp Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 9:18 am
here’s a link to Video on Russia today that goes perfect with this story…
http://www.russiatoday.com/Top.....taly.html#
November 5th, 2009 at 11:12 am
If someone is criminal enough to DO that to someone just to get them to say what they want to hear, why not just SAY he said it & confessed all? CRAP, If I have to listen that that damned Lee Greenwoods “Proud to an American” one more time I think Ill puke.
boycott the junk Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
get busy America, it may happen here someday.STOP BUYING off shore products and services, get your money OUT OF THEIR BANKS.. find a small locally owned bank and do business totally with THEM, not the bad guys. Our tools are economic, JUST LIKE THEIRS!
Williams_pad Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
I agree with the boycott and hit them where it hurts. I think for any true revolution to take place it has to start with the hearts and minds of people. You can change a system but without changed hearts and minds any revolution won’t last or take root. For example, why are so many Americans in debt. Because they took the “easy way” There was a time when people would work hard, save hard and then buy. However, everyone took to the “buy now pay later” policy and now the “borrower is servant to the lender”. I look at small societies like the Amish for example, who just refused the modern world completely. I feel that their stance is a little too extreme. I mean some modern inventions can be helpful, like electricity etc. However, how many of the Amish are in danger of being foreclosed? Also, I have read articles how groups like the Mormons have created their own welfare services for their members, which is totally independent of the government. More things like this need to happen. People need to ban together to help those in financial trouble. Get them off the credit card addiction. teach people to live within their income, stop borrowing from the banks. Borrow from people you can trust, family friends etc. (if you must borrow). I stopped borrowing money years ago. I need to watch how I spend my money, and yes I have passed up many items that I would like to have, but I have my necessities and it is enough for me and my family. Also, we might have less Obese people in the US which is the fattest country in the world by the way, if people got back to living and eating what they need and stop this gorging of material wealth and junk food. Yes, their are forces at work like the NWO people who are behind much of the evil, but unless people can see that this “consumer society” was created by them to lull the people to sleep and to entrap them through debt, there will be no revolution. So the bottom line is. People need to change their attitudes and break out of the materialism addiction and realize that many of things you are told that you need are really luxuries and not needs. I am 55 years old, have lived in 8 countries, have fathered 5 children. I have never owned a house for example, and you know what. I have a small nest egg and I don’t worry about loosing my house, cause I ain’t got one to loose. With my nest egg I can purchase a trailer or whatever if the need arises. The point is that I feel like a true free man, because I have no debt. That is true freedom. Remember as long as you are in debt you are someone’s servant and not free.
morethanposting Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:36 am
Heres a good thing to do, tell them to take the credit system and shove it, if you have credit bills, just dont pay, sure you will get a lot of shitty phone calls and threatening letters but they cant take your soul. Be subversive.
Chris ~ Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:32 am
Williams -In the “good old days”, a person could save money to make large purchases like cars, houses and applicances. Since then the Federal Reserve Bank has kept inflation of the fiat dollar growing, so that your dollar buys less than it did years ago. This is why the prices of almost everything has out grwon the growth of wages. How could a person who has normal everyday living expeneses, making the average wage of $35,000 a year, save the money to pay cash for a $30,000 car ?? (average price of a car)
Since the Federal Reserve Act was signed into law in 1913, the dollar has been devalued by $.95. That means your dollar is only worth $.05 of what it was worth in 1913. Wages have not grown at the same pace as inflation. Which is by design.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Right now, Nancy Pelosi is struggling to come up with some PR spin on this so she doesn’t have to do anything about it. She’ll say “this is sad but we can’t lose our focus which is to bring these terrorists who want to harm small children to justice”. Torturers who harm small children are ok though, they aer only doing their part to help.
I just really hope more than anything that Nancy Pelosi is never raped with a broken glass bottle because she is a really nice lady.
boycott the junk Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
nancy pelosi, “YUK! of the highest order!
who said that Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
that really nice lady as you call her wants to take away every freedom you ever had, are you crazy?
pissed in pahrump Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
he was being NICE and trying to stay out of jail it is called sarcasm
ROBIN_HOOD Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:40 am
too fugly….
November 5th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Rothschild says prep them…???
November 5th, 2009 at 11:37 am
There are apparently many idle minds in world governments, because if this isn’t the devil’s workshop, there is none.
boycott the junk Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
we know he owns the world, were just renting!
jkio Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
White devils “own” the world!
pissed in pahrump Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
that is why you should be joining with us white freedom lovers to defeat them, it is well known the rothschilds etc are raceist,
their motto is divide and conqure
example many here complain about illegal mexicans, yup i agree we need to follow the law BUT ( that means i dont want them here taking american job etc ) guess what new world order controls the flow of illegal, AND the very same people made life in mexico and many other countries BAD sooo
if we really want to win the war do the unexpected and RECRUIT the illegals to fight the new world order, explain to them who steals their country controls their country etc just who is starving their family ( if my family was starving i would do about anything to feed them , crossing a border is nothing
the possible plans of new world order is to get us to fight illegals, lets fuck the nwo and get illegals to help us fight evil ones and we can then help them fix mexico
in fact perhaps a new american with OUR constitution and we include them ( mexico or what eer land we can get to combine a free republic
i dont give a damm what color or race someone is
the new world order does
i demand a free republic let mexico join a free republic, the new world order wants a controled north american union how about a north american free republic
if we let these basterds divide and conqure we will loose
we perhaps should consider to stand near the border and explain all of this to them teach the constitution to them and we ALL fight TOGETHER
NOW THAT WOULD REALLY SCARE THE NWO if they see us join with the repressed starving people from all the world
please recal they attempt a new WORLD order we americans are NOT the only victims
so many here talk about god what would he do would he want christans to fight christans? or resist evil TOGETHER ???
ALL THOSE THAT THINK THEY KNOW MILITARY TACTICS ( it is called allies) think about it a bit this is an attempt at a new WORLD order, these people are all over the world we are a small percent that will fight with arms
what happens if that same percent of people from all over the world joins us
these basterds will have NO place to hide
i think aj said america is a constitution i will ad NOT a place so much but an idea of freedom
it is damm time we join people of the world to defeat them
long before 9-11 i knwe as americans we should be doing something to really make ma diferance since 9-11 i learn who makes life so bad in third world countries
the enemy of my enemy is MY FRIEND lets join together for the freedoms of free rebublic and make it even better
the last thing the new world order wants is on e world that is a free rebublic, we are so lucky here in usa that we have had a taste of a free rebuplic lets set our goals HIGH
to hell with just trying to save usa , lets call it a new world free republic
we have been defensive lets think BIG
ROBIN_HOOD Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:40 am
shut the hell up RACIST…go back to Africa
YOWCH! Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Whoa! Apparantly “anything goes” on this board.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:41 am
WOAH !!!!!!!
November 5th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Although it is largely ignored by western news media networks, there is currently an outbreak of H1N1 sweeping thru Eastern Europe. Ukraine, Romania, Russia, Poland, Turkey, are all experiencing rising numbers of H1N1 cases. You can read about it at http://fluhealer.blogspot.com
morethanposting Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:40 am
its government propaganda to try to make people take the flu shot, I just heard that swine flu is sweeping through the small town I live in, its flu season, people get the flu every year at this time, the government is taking advantage of this and exploiting it, along with the manufacturers of the swine flu vaccine, so they can make huge profits off the naive american people and now internationally to make huge profits off of all people, and they do not know what the side effects of the swine flu vaccine are, especially not long term.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Watch Fall Of The Republic in full version and educate yourself online at: http://www.joemarquis.com/videos.htm
I took the time to build an area within my own business website where you can educate yourself by watching in Highest Quality full versions of Alex Jone’s and other’s DVD’s. A great place to start if your new or old and want to learn about the New World Order.
pissed in pahrump Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
hey thanks you made it easy to see the vid, i subscribe to prison planet tv and i can not figure how to watch anything now aj made changes, but then i am an old guy and a computer dummy lol but thanks i watched if very easy at your site, question can i download from your site, i want to help aj and buy but on tight budget and any extra now goes to guns food and ammo
by the way any freedom lovers or truth seekers in pahrump nv ( or vegas) that need help with food prep i have started with dehydration , my first machine and i hope to buy a few more so i can do at least 80 square feet of food at a time and will help others if you do not have time or equipment, i want well feed patriot near me contact wolfdjg@msn.com
November 5th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
very cool short film about gun rights and revolution and what the elite think of the people very cool tells it like it is film, must see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dqf88ZBnLM
November 5th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
So whats new in human history.all governments use torture.This is what they are letting you know,in time for what?The problem is us,yes us we the people have let this happen an continue to let it go on.Don’t be horrified or upset you feed this breast.The nation is a “DEATH CULT’
November 5th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
cops are the same way….they don’t care about finding the guilty party, they just want a confession…
November 5th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
i’m not sure killing people will ever do any good
November 5th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
We need to send most of congress over there and maybe they will get the Truth out of them!
November 5th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
If Obama agrees that torture is OK, then he is a criminal by association, just like Charlie Manson. Fuckin’ psychopathic trash – rot in Hell!!!!!!!
November 5th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
your next
ROBIN_HOOD Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:03 am
you’re going down NWO SCUM!
November 5th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
you are next
November 5th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Everyone is lying to make people scared and to let everyone know this world is falling apart and no 1 man can keep us in peace and keep us all sane and to prove my point just kick back and enjoy the show!!! H1N1 is a conspiracy to get rid of alot of people bacause our world is getting overpopulated. The govornment is trying to “do away with” all the “bad apples” so to speak and the only way to secretly do that is to experiment on us without us knowing and maybe someday we will all die or become a ‘resident evil zombie’ or something simular. If not they came up with this swine flu to do the job for them and it’s working!
November 5th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
When HIS angels return, your head will be sliced-off by them first!
Know ye not that the Overcomers shall judge angels, how much less a man, even a heathen?
The heathen are the corruption-problem to our whole society!
November 5th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Jesus still loves you , even though you think so “HIGH”ly of him may GOD HAVE MERCY ON
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOUR SOUL, you do have a soul , right… You are so brain washed that you love the
NEW WORLD ORDER, GOD BLESS YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 5th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
now you know why god aint found in the usa after these comments people if they are true you big mouths should suffer same
ROBIN_HOOD Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:05 am
manter…banter…muthafukin troll
November 5th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
This is final straw i aint following any shit no more i will deal with my street i place at a time fuck the world let it end
November 5th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
There is now a confirmed outbreak in the Ukraine. Romania is placing all of its hospitals under official quarantine. Turkey is reporting increased cases of H1N1 flu. In the Ukraine alone, they are already running out of face masks. Remember the Anthrax scare when they ran out of gas masks? Don’t wait until its late. Get daily Swine Flu Pandemic updates without the usual bullshit at http://fluhealer.blogspot.com
November 5th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Uzbekistan is a thirld world Islamic country. They still live in middle ages. What did you expect from them???
November 5th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
CIA is a white DEMONIC organization!!!
IrishGal Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
The C.I.A. is just another arm of the NWO satan worshiping thugs – they all need to be taken out. Rise up world and join the U.S.A. in the second American Revolution – if America is freed, it will set the stage for freedom and liberty to reign throughout the world and the destruction of the Satanic movement that would kill us all.
Chris ~ Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:17 am
You are right, the CIA was founded by the Rothschilds family.
Bubba Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
David Rockefeller is the chief slob
ROBIN_HOOD Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:30 am
Rockefeller mothafuker = USA head scum (
} – ROTHSCHILDS control LONDON…off with their heads….
November 5th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
CIA is a white DEMONIC organization!!!
ROBIN_HOOD Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:06 am
stupid…it’s not about WHITE…yes it is SATANIC however, you’re 1/2 right
November 5th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Over many years we have all been lied to by our Governments, but not just our Governments but many religous leaders. Many things we have been taught are not even in Scripture and millions have swallowed so many lies by these false prophets. If you are a truth seeker please visit the following web site and take the time to read some of the articles, you will be shocked.
http://www.2besaved.com
Blessings
Ben
November 5th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
The cute lil birdies are singing sweetly while “humans” boil each other !!!
SONGBIRD Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
THE BIRDYS ARE SO BEAUTIFUL AND THE SONGS THAT THEY SING ARE SO NICE!!
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:11 am
While ” humans ” will rape n’ torture your daughter in front of you !!!
P.S. Screw ” humans ” !!!
November 5th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
I wonder if these CIA operatives that ran the torture was some of the same people that are wanted by Italian Government Officials.
November 5th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
I am a member of Oath Keepers, a Veteran of the US Navy, and a forum moderator on the Second Revolution Forum. We DO stand a chance. There is 5.5 billion of us 500 million of them. The numbers favor us. It is time to say NO to the NWO, One world Government, The Bankster Elite that are ruining this Beautiful world for everyone.
Come join us on the Second Revolution Forum.
http://thesecondrevolution.viviti.com/
November 5th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Raw Story delivers some hard-hitting news, yet again. Keep it coming.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
I think it would be a good idea if we stopped bashing each other and organized under a common agenda. Like Alex said, it could be trying to stop Sodium Fluoride from being put into the common water source. What ever the cause, let us unite instead of fight against each other. Let’s get involved in a group like We Are Change. Be the change you want to see. If we fight with each other we cannot fight them.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Matial law, border closure! ALERT! ALERT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4eRltGEyqo
November 5th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
This 2 hour and 17 min lecture will blow you away and is a must see if you don’t have ADD or ADHD yet!! http://video.google.com/videop.....024486145#
November 5th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
sicko
November 5th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
He said, “My son, you can hold perfection in your arms if you wish.”
but I sit at a banquet for traitors
placed here between a thief and a liar.
“Just run and hold perfection in your arms as I slip…”
but I’ll make you the god of a liar
cause I’ve been both a saint and a viper.
I’ll make you the god of a liar.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:26 am
This is beyond Tyranny, this is government sponsored terrorism, What the hell happened to America between, 1990 when I graduated Highschool and joined the Army until present I can’t recognize this place anymore. I want my country back God, They are killing woman and children, and good men of all colors and nations, and they are laughing at us, Help us Father, God Save the Republic!
November 6th, 2009 at 1:08 am
I have been hearing about the NWO and the concentration camps that the govt. plans on putting us in for the last 20 years. I don’t believe the bit about the camps, because there would not be enough citizens to work and pay taxes. I am more concerned about the total breakdown of society and the violence that is pervasive in our society.
Chris ~ Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:38 am
You mean pay taxes with the worthless fiat paper currency ?? Just think about that for a few minutes.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:46 am
Yea, the violence pervasive in our society IS the NWO reptilian-led drones that build CAMP FEMA’ Stop watching Oprah, and read books, or at least listen to Alex Jones. Wake up,sis.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:26 am
Does anything like this to do with the CIA suprise you? Those sickos who kill untold number with the black drug trading. whats a bit of torture……………..
November 6th, 2009 at 5:25 am
Wow, I just hope that we all contribute something to making the world change for the better. We all have the power to do our part to make things change. You are all smart, caring people who were put here for a reason. Follow your heart and things will change for the better. I guarantee it.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Here’s a link to a video from Russia today that pretty much goes right in with this story…
http://www.russiatoday.com/Top.....taly.html#
November 6th, 2009 at 9:25 am
What?
November 6th, 2009 at 9:33 am
This stuff is disgusting. But Americans should not be surprised that this has gone on and will continue to. Our country is not all nicey, nicey. People who believe so are ignorant. The person whos father was CIA said we shouldn’t know. If the truth be know most people don’t want to know as long as their world is comfortable and safe. Let someone else take care of the “details”.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Our very own shadow government.
Erik Prince Blackwater Xe “enforcement”