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Fort Hood Shooter Information Not Adding Up
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Corruption American Style
November 6, 2009
What happened Thursday November 5, 2009 was a tragedy. Gunman Major Nidal Malik Hasan allegedly snapped and went on a shooting rampage at Fort Hood in Texas, killing at least 12 and injuring 31 others. The information coming in has been conflicting and at times wildly contradictory. Some of this is the result of the newness of the tragedy. But through nonstop coverege the media has begun to flesh out a good deal of the story, and yet a careful examination of just some of the more widely stated information shows there are troubling and conflicting problems with the MSM and government’s version of what happened.
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This is starting to have the earmarks and anatomy of a disinformation psy ops story.
For instance, the media reported that Hasan was promoted to Major in May of this year. And yet, stories coming from what is passing as his family, the FBI and co-workers state that Hasan had wanted out of the military given the government’s stand on Afghanistan and Muslims. Indeed, his Aunt “Noel Hasan” (who is interestingly enough identified herself as a Bank President) and his cousin both gave statements to the media which provided that Hasan wanted out of the military and had been harassed since 9-11 about his Muslim faith. Co-workers and the authorities have also stated that Hasan had an Internet presence and a Facebook account, and the FBI has him under survailance for the past 6 months for radical anti-American and pro-Muslim writings on his online accounts.
Now, why on earth would the military promote a man who was unhappy, had objected to being in the military, had not wanted to deploy to anywhere outside of the U.S., and who had allegedly made himself a security threat with online radical comments? The answer is they would never promote such an individual, and someone who badly wants out of the military (to the point of offering to pay back medical school costs to the U.S. military, according to Hasan’s Banker aunt). Not only that, if Hasan was truly radical and wanted out he would have never put in for a promotion to Major. But the fact remains he was promoted to Major this year. Try to reconcile those conflicting testimonies and facts.
The media had originally reported that witnesses had seen between 3 and 5 gunmen. Then that number went to 3, with Hasan being wounded and taken in to custody, and two other suspects allegedly being taken into custody and later released after being “cleared” and jumping into a Crown Victoria with US Government license plates on it (and men in suits inside). Now we are even being told that Hasan was yelling “Allahu Akbar” or (Allah is good) while he was gunning down victims. Hours ago witnesses remarked how methodical and stoic the accused gunman was.
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”The shooter’s cousin, Nader Hasan, told Fox News that their family is in shock.
“We are trying to make sense of all this,” Nader Hasan said. “He wasn’t even someone who enjoyed going to the firing range.”
They cannot even decide if the man if 40 or 39. And on top of that, he graduated from Virginia Tech for his undergraduate work, and others “close” to Hasan said he was gentle and quiet and wanted to make a career out of his Psychiatry degree in the military. Hasan was not married, but very religious who prayed daily. One source stated he was not looking for a wife, another source (in the same article) says he was.
Confused yet? It is only going to get worse. And one thing is for sure, Hasan will be the lone gunman, the other’s idenitified by eyewitnesses as shooters as well will be ignored and forgotten by the military and the media. And Hasan will be portrayed as a radical unstable Muslim idealist who somehow passed screening into the Army, into Army medical school and psychiatry residency, and the lone gunman here.
And since Hasan has no immediate family and is single, with two so-called family members who appear to have all the media savvy of a PR man from the Rendon Group, he is the perfect patsy.
I hate to say it, but this tragedy stinks to high heavens and reaks of clandestine intelligence operations.
Only time will tell, but the government media complex will continue to lie about this for as long as they can get away with it. And against this backdrop, the website Chicago.com is blasting President Obama for his Frightening Insinsesativity following the shootings.
We are truly living in a bizarre and corrupt time.
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November 6th, 2009 at 10:36 am
[IF IT SMELLS LIKE DAWG-CRAP, IT PROBABLY IS]
AbuBakerSmith Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Lets be clear. The writer of this article is a lair. There were NO other shooters sighted. They were looking for other people who ran out of the room at the onset of Hasan’s spree. They found them and they were in fact just RUNNING because someone (Hasan)was shooting.
Of course this is how disinformationists work. Take natural confusion of a traumatic event, speculative comments by media idiots and use it to SPIN a false story which they can build a conspiracy upon and possibly make a few dollars off of the backs of the dead in the process.
scienceofficer Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:06 am
9/11 did not happen! this shooting at ft hood did not happen?
we are not real its all a manufactured illusion created to confuse ghosts!
luci Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHHA
MAD DOG Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I’LL JUST WAIT UNTIL NEXT WEEK WHEN ALEX MAKES A 200 GRAND MOVIE OUT OF THIS, THAT IS IF THE ARMY ISN’T WATCHING HIM ?
hipo Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 5:08 am
Of course they are we all are ((It`s not gay it`s fear).
Jason Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Listen, the only thing that I’ve seen in this incident, is an out of control immigration policies that the NWO have set up to further undermine this country.Question why do we have a policy of allowing those with no cultural similarites to come here? Answer we’ve murdered 50 million babies through abortion.
Red Crow Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
So how did you get here you dont belong here either look at your own past from you got here the murder donot stop and many were silent now its your time you better stop making inflammatory remarks or the same murderers will kill us all
confusednative Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Jason you and the rest of the racist scum. read your own comment “why do we have a policy of allowing those with no cultural similarites to come here?”. i would bet the native americans thought the same thing!!
Its people like you that give the rest a bad name.
rik thomas Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
jason= disinterested paid troll witht he iq of a moron. but folks, we as humans are easy to mess with.
Pitiful Pete Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
“His parents didn’t want him to go into the military,”
Mr. Hasan’s dad said that, “He said to us, ‘No, I was born and raised here, I’m going to do my duty to the country.’
TROLLING FOR DOLLARS Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
THE TSUNAMI WAS AN INSIDE JOB!
HTTP://WWW.THETSUNAMIWASANINSIDEJOB.COM
Jason Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
@confusednative What you call Native Americans (Barring the Kennewick man of course.) Welcomed us because we brought metallurgical skills with us that they could use( Tomahawks all the better to Cleave the opposing tribes head with.)
@Red Crow I got here because my ancestors actually brought a skill and contributed to this country. Not to get on welfare or to “Make Money” while holding onto to the Turdworld values that most immigrants hold on to now. Thanks to the Globalist education system that hates The Founders, hates Western ideology, as well as Christianity. Your charge of racism holds no water, it was The Native Americans racism that allowed themselves to be divided and conquered.
Son of Isaac Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Jason, you are one of the very few smart people left in this world. Enjoy it.
Pillerill Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Well jason, I’m sure the Native Americans are well pleased now!
RedSky Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
The NWO indoctrinated fools, love using the word Racist.
They have been so brain-washed by the NWO, that they
do not even know, that they are racist against their own race.
The NWO are good, really good at mind-control, look at those
brain-locked fools, they only know three words…”Your a racist”.
Truth is, every race is racist, but lets not talk about that,
it’s not politically-correct.
Nothing but a bunch of NWO school indoctrinated zombies.
ablaubangada Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
http://worldreports.org/
From Babylon to Timbuktu Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 2:06 am
Jason and Son of Isaac are he same person! But Hey Jason, here is a quick history lesson…The europeans did not bring anything to this country but disease and death(covered by Alex). The natives taught them how to farm, barter, and almost all other economic, social and life customs. The african slave women taught the slave masters women how to breast feed and nurse their babies. -all facts and mainstream history
SICK OF THIS s---! Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
I BELIEVE IT!
THESE SICK GLOBALIST FEDERAL GOV CRIMINALS ARE JUST PLAYING WITH OUR HEADS! DID YOU SEE THIS HAPPEN? ME EITHER! THEY PLANT THESE STORIES TO DIVIDE US! I SAY VIVA LA REVOLUTION AND ALL WILL BE UNITED FOR LIBERTY AGAINST THE CRIMINALLY INSANE GOV!
devo Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:13 am
hay, 12 dead 31 hert? was this a daycare or a milltary base with the single goal of killing humans and blowing up bridges?
ya something is vary out of phase?
devo Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:37 am
ok, i see now: the news outlets forgot to get a copy of their news script off the elciada fax machine?
Austin Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
We don’t walk around base with loaded weapons… There are very few people on bases that actually are tasked with security, and are armed.
Fuct Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Austin, that’s right. Also, when the story first broke on the news I was getting pissed because they talked about how hard it is to get on post and how they inspect cars and insure peoples destinations. That is BS. I am a soldier at Ft. Hood I work only at least 3 blocks from where this happened and I don’t know the real story but, when it initially happened when they told all of us to go inside we were told there was “automatic rifle fire” going on and that there were three shooters, one was killed and one was “cornered” while the other was still on post. Having said all that I was able to get off post before it was even locked down at least 30 minutes after the first shots were fired and everybody had already heard about it and PA system warned people to seek shelter. They only do random car inspections on Ft. Hood and you can get on post with a drivers license. I agree a little bit with some posters that the shooter Hasan sounds like a fall guy.
Karen Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
I agree with you, AbuBaker Smith. Way too soon to be writing this article (whoever wrote it?????????)!
kris Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
I don’t think it is to early to write about it. The reported him the “shooter” dead for a long time yesterday and said that a civilian police shot the “shooter” Then hours later they reported him alive and at the hospital in stable condition. The Army has mastered a lot of things but they do not and will never bring anyone back to life. Also even if he had two pistals he would have had to reload the gun. The Army is trained in that type of stuff. they would have stopped him. It is a big lie!!!
doa Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
and just HOW the HELL do you know all these “details” you are either a disinfo agent or well, a disinfo agent…
Hangtime55 Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Agreed Abu . . . until some facts(?) are released , we have to go by what we find and paste it all together to make all persons , locations , times and events fit into a logical senarrio on what happened yesterday .
” Read Everything , Listen to Everybody ,
Don’t Trust Anything Unless You Can Prove It
With Your Own Research “
jmc Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
abu ..babe …i of all people would be the first in a long line of asshats that would feverishly callout anyone at this site for fudgeing any and all reports of any and all infotainment…but ! all and i meen ALL news reports from the onslaut of this ‘happening’ {as in the movie} said 3 shooters 3 and so why would you expect anything different from a recycled story…i think the most interesting thing was nadal or nidal was dead for at least 3 hours …now THAT my freind was interesting…calling the alexhats out for’lieing’ has become a mute piont….
Andy Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
first off, until very late in the day, we had no images/pictures of the scene.
how the reports came out, that there were 3 suspected shooters ?
I’m sure there were alot of people running, but somehow, someone thought they saw more than one shooter. So, where did these reports come from ? someone reported it.
then the shooter was killed, where did these reports come from ?
then the shooter wasn’t killed and he Hassan,
very strange indeed.
how you can say the author is a liar ? what is the lie ?
StarinaNovak Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Only idiot could think that one man could do that, to kill 12 and wound 30 or so SOLDIERS.
Now, as I heard, he had only 2 hand guns, and that is not a weapon for something that happened.
At first I presumed he had at least a Sherman Tank, or that M2 or something.
What they told you is not what happened there.
Major Malik was microbiologist and also had a degree in psychology.
That was another hoax, and attempt to find a common threat, a moslim, thus justifying illegal CIA prisons, creating common enemy which should bring cohesive element in diverse american society by FEAR.
They want you to think what they tell you to think.
Wake up!
bardarian Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
You make a good point that he wasn’t taking on just everyday people, they were soldiers. I do feel like from the start a lot about this story just doesn’t add up beyond face value. My dad says people have been going postal for thousands of years without warning, I just don’t know what to think.
brandini Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
“KNOW THAT I KNOW”
TROLLING FOR DOLLARS Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
THE WHOLE THING does seem like A CONVENIENT EXCUSE to bad-press THE MUSLIMS
one love brothers!
streetcourt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
pm
“The federal Bureau of Labor Statistics said 517 people were the victims of homicide in U.S. workplaces last year, 413 by gunshot.”
By Alex Johnson of msnbc.com with Catherine Corrigan, Daniel Linden, Jesse Rodriguez and Dax Tejera of NBC News.. NBC station WESH-TV of Orlando contributed to this report
Mass shootings in two days, bringing to forefront will help to take away your guns because of the above, “413 by GUNshot”.
Other Mr. T Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Let’s do a sense check here, they claim 12 dead and 31 wounded. That means – at least 43 rounds fired. Since it’s nearly impossible (unlike in a video game) to kill someone with just one handgun round, let’s be generous and guestimate that about 50 rounds were fired. That’s 4 or more clips. At least one re-load for each handgun.He had 2, supposedly. That takes time. Goes without mentioning, but the whole place is cc video surveilled. Everything inside is guarded and monitored. In all the time, the shooting went on – no MP’s or other armed persons were able to respond at the scene and take the guy down before he had a chance to re-load 2 guns… possibly more than once !?!? I am no logistician, but the timeline of the event that the news reporters gave is OBVIOUSLY bogus.
Marko Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
I think you are spot-on with that summary. Unless it’s the return of JFK’s magic bullet. Joking aside, it really sounds like there was a few extra lone shooters. Laws on hand-guns to get tighter, or a clamp down on Muslims, or probably both.
It’s all very, very crap.
Just Facts Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 12:18 am
IF the reports are correct that the shooter was using the FN 5/7, he could have mags that hold up to 30 rounds each. Times that by 4. Or if he had 2 guns like some reports say, he could have theoretically got off 60 rounds without a reload.
Karen Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
AbuBakerSmith, it is impossible for one man who hates guns to wound thirty people and kill others in such a short time and then conveniently run into a female officer who just happens to be in the right place at the right time to almost kill a man that was on a diabolical rampage to kill kill kill military men!!! Abu, or who ever you really are, this is not about some imagined conspiracy theory; this is about killing military people by government “design,” to further manufactor a Muslim enemy who is not our enemy at all.
Karen
Just Facts Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 12:40 am
With all due respect Karen or who ever you are today, you just sound so, well, girl. MANUFACTURE A MUSLIM ENEMY? NOT OUR ENEMY AT ALL? You’re absolutely precious! Kumbayah! Visualize World Peas! And maybe when you grow up you can be president some day! (in a land full of special people far, far, away)
Marshall W Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
you are an Idiot Abu! were you there,did you see Hasan Shooting? No you didn’t, you are just another sheep in the herd who can’t fathom that are government is wicked and willing to blame a innocent man of muslim faith to promote Progahganda and fear in this country. Next you will tell me that 9/11 wasn’t a inside job! Why don’t you grow a pair and realize that this country would rather have us in fear then be Happy! This is just the beginning, it is ploy the government is using so we can remain in Iraq and Afgahn.
kay Reply:
November 15th, 2009 at 12:25 am
Did you see shooting? No. So why make statements as though its fact? Wake up and grow up. Stop reading your end times novels.
Miguel Grande Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
I found this on another website. It makes alot more sense.
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Written by Mouser
“In Washington, a senior U.S. official said authorities at Fort Hood initially thought one of the victims who had been shot and killed was the shooter. The mistake resulted in a delay of several hours in identifying Hasan as the alleged assailant.”
The truth is probably something VERY different. For example:
‘Two US privates John Smith and John Henry had been seeing a military psychiatrist major Hasan at Fort hood for a few weeks. Both privates said they were completely against the war of oppression in the middle east and would refuse to report for active duty if ordered to do so.
So the army put them both in therapy with Dr. Hasan. After more than five weeks of therapy both Christian privates were called to go to Afghanistan. Both privates warned they would not go and they would defend themselves with force if the army tried to force them to fight in a war they believed was morally wrong.
Yesterday fellow soldiers tried to surprise the two conscientcious objectors but the privates were prepared and killed 12 soldiers who tried to force their way into the privates’ barracks at Fort Hood.
During the melee their psychiatrist major Hasan, tried to talk the two privates into surrendering but he was shot twice.
Finally both privates were overcome and killed. Their psychiatrist major Hasan is in hospital recovering.’
Officials of the military have spun the story to make it seem the privates’ doctor (who has a muslim sounding name) was the perpetraitor so that the public does not understand just how much resistance there is to the middle east war in the military rank and file.
The whole official Fort Hood cover story is 98% a lie – just like 9/11. Do you trust the main stream media for the truth in a story like this? Heck, for any story?
IrishGal Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
The author of this article is full of crap. The reason this Hasan guy was coddled and promoted is because of the psychotic “political correctness” that has infiltrated every institution in this country including the military. It is true that the U.S. government has continued these outlandish wars in Iraq and Afghanistan for sinister reasons, such as enriching private military contractors, promoting the dissemination of drugs around the world, the protection of oil resources that the Wall Street crowd will make trillions upon trillions as they make oil more scarce through the global warming scare, and on and on. However, this does not negate the truth that there is a radical Islamic movement that seeks to overtake the moderate Muslim world and the through their Jihad, take over the world. The insanity is that our so-called leadership does not recognize this very real threat because to do so would shatter their twisted world in which there can be no real threats, no real dangers only a series of victims, tradegies and other spectres that reinforce their self image as all powerful, masters of the world. In addition, I believe our deranged “leadership” actually identifies with the Islamic jihadists, in that as the jihadists seeks a muslim takeover of the non-muslim world, our elites seek the complete takeover and domination of the American people.
ANWAR Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Well said
Just some guy Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Listen AbuBakerSmith, we don’t know exactly what happen yet, not you, not me & not the author of the story.
What we have are lots of conflicting news reports & speculation, this story does not claim to know for sure that there is a conspiracy, it uses language like “troubling and conflicting problems” & “Only time will tell”.
You claim “The writer of this article is a lair. There were NO other shooters sighted”,
I’m not sure if it was the first news report but the first one i saw alleged that a gunman was dead & they were looking for two more, this story isn’t lying, it’s speculating on inconsistencies in the story that has been developing.
Do you think it is not worth comment that a man who is alleged to have had strong views against the war, had been sympathetic towards suicide attacks & wanted to leave the army, was not only being deployed but had been promoted?
The story is still emerging, nobody knows all the facts yet but if you don’t think that there are inconsistencies in the reports thus far, worthy of comment then i don’t know what is?
wtf Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 4:33 am
And i guess you were there? There’s nothing more pathetic than persons representing personal view as fact….now SU
Wolfsburg Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 4:42 am
AbuBakerSmith: It’s interesting that the Governor of Texas himself stated that there were 3 shooters! Go watch the video on youtube. Now if anybody is going to have accurate information about what occurred at Fort Hood, Texas then it would probably be the Governor of Texas himself. Check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQg-UhYEnGU
tpoohf Reply:
November 13th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Thank you for making that statementent because there was a lot of mis information, we were in the building (the theater) and they told us that there were more than one shooterout…at the PX, at one of the housing areas and with this information alot of the graduates were shaken up and paranoid!
rudibr Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Crap, delivered to us all chewed up by the media on how we should think or react about it.
It worked for 9-11, worked for 7-7, GW and so on, and will work again now too.
The number of people realizing the truth beyond this schemes is growing steadly, but its still far away from becoming a critical mass, im afraid.
doa Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
i agree
FreeMasons at it again Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:01 am
31 wounded reverse 13. Happened at 1:30 another visual 13. No doubt an inside job. Probably another Project Monarch mind control puppet. Damn they know their time is short.
SPIRITBLADE Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:18 am
[AMEN]
StarinaNovak Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Another Sirhan Sirhan?
killthenwo Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Yeah, I noticed that was strange. It’s like how some criminals leave clues to their true identities. WE NEED BATMAN!!!!!!
BATMAN Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 2:59 am
Swish…I”m here, what did I miss?
oland Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Remember, remember, the 5th of November.
V Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
The 5th of November is my bday!
hipo Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 5:19 am
Happy birthady.
Judy Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
This sounds like witchcraft. Am very interested in tghe occult ramifications. Can you explain. Not familiar with witchcraft and it’s symbols and numberology, Judy
streetcourt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
The fruit of the tree is self-evident, even without trying the fruit of their actions is always exposed, often without their conscious knowledge; puppets merely perform.
the thinker Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Always keep an open mind.
Great article.
hipo Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 5:20 am
But not so open that your brains fall out.
Will See Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Ok, let’s hold on here. Wait and see what comes up.
On one hand it is not unbelievable that Hasan snapped and picked Guy Falks Day (Nov.5th) to activate an attack against an ugly system that kills millions of civilians and US Servicemen in illegal foreign wars — all based on the lies of 911.
You have to remember that the majority of our armed forces servicemen and women support Ron Paul’s position on ending these costly and worthless wars.
But it is also likely that the news media and Co-intel will paint this up as an “attack” by cell group terrorists hiding in the US. They could even be behind that very agenda, and if not, determined to make it work that way.
Mdodd Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Has anyone missed the obvious? Everyone knew when Obama was elected the next act would be a domestic gun terrorist. Your off the target speculation is boring. Back to making cookies.
Michael Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Simple, review all the recordings from all the camera’s in every room of the place. Ohh, wait, they will have some excuse saying that the were down for repair or malfunctioning.
Palehorse Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 2:28 am
Jt does and is.
Real story versus fake story:
http://www.worldreports.org/ne.....ency_boxes
November 6th, 2009 at 10:41 am
This article reeks of a clandestine intelligence operation.
Notice the word is spelled reek not reak
SPIRITBLADE Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:19 am
[LOL]
Wreak?
click Mee Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Be sure that all MSM reports about the Ft. Hood shooter and incident are disinfo.
click Mee for truth
click Mee Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
click mee
November 6th, 2009 at 10:44 am
second
November 6th, 2009 at 10:51 am
GEEEEZ!!!
sometimes by making EVERYTHING into a conspiracy, you undermine the REAL problems like the Federal Reserve and Patriot Act and bail out bill and stimulus BS.
The minute I heard about the shooting, I was thinking right away- I wonder how people will spin it into part of the grand conspiracy and started to make up in my head what BS would be said.
Sure enough it was almost the same BS you wrote.
Why does EVERYTHINg have to be a comspiracy?
Did Rothchilds really do THIS too?
Thomas Morton Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:02 am
What in the wide, wide world of sports are you babbling about?
Are the “conspiracy theorists” out to get you? Why is investigating, or even simply exploratory journalism, frightening for you?
Hard to figure out what you’re whining about regarding this article.
V Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Thomas Morton – you must be an IDIOT!!
Obviously he believes in the big picture and knows what is going on and probably would be considered a “conspiracy theorist”
But like many, don’t like the negative connotations that go with it because of some that think EVERYTHING is a conspiracy which clouds the big picture and the real conspiracies and major issues like the Federal Reserve.
Do you really think the Rothchilds and Rockefellers did THIS too? Its too small for them. Get real!! They are frying BIG fish right now and not doing some small thing.
By people turning every little thing that happens into a conspiracy- you make the rest of us look like idiots. 9-11 was a conspiracy. NOT THIS small bs !!
By looking crazy about small things like this- you also make people look crazy for important big things like 9-11!!
Weather you agree or not, your not an idiot if you disagree. Your an idiot for not understanding what he was trying to say.
Beavis Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Dear V, Weather? your an idiot?
Who is the English idiot here?
Boinggg!!!
v Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
your a moron!!! what are you the spelling and grammer police?
Sit arround and wait for one mistake online in a chat room and point out the one mistake-
GET A LIFE LOSER!!!
worry about content, not a grammer mistake –
Go get a government proofreading job LOSER!!
RightofRush Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:52 am
What does “V” stand for? Vapid? Vacuous? There were at least 50 shots fired that hit people. Unless the victims were standing at attention, that many from “one” gunman beggars credulity.
Considering the improbability of “a lone gunman” inflecting that many casualties, there must have at least three shooters, perhaps including one confused major.
Caution! Trolls sighted without a bridge for cover!
doa Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
hmmmm….and how do YOU know there was 50 shots fired>?
ONCE AGAIN….people on here posting what they don’t know as if they do!!
missy Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
RightofRush-I agree, and he was using a handgun! How many rounds can you fire from a handgun or two without reloading? Ok, so he reloads, no one could take him down at that point? This is insulting to the intelligence.
RightofRush Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
doa, there were 44 casualties, some with mutliple wounds. 50 is most likely a low ball estimate.
Once again… people post here without thought.
v Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
it stands for Victory which will not happen if you dont keep your eye on the ball. Not every event is a Rothschild/ Rockefeller conspiracy- Get real!!
People were just shot in an Orlando office building- i can’t wait- I bet that was the Rothschild and Rockefeller conspiracy too.
Everything is.
Keep your eye on the ball.
End the Fed!
Beavis Reply:
November 9th, 2009 at 8:14 am
dear troll (v), 2 replies- 1) poor grammar= poor mind.
2) chat is just that. It’s not one person calling everyone an idiot for not agreeing with them. We’re all in this together- even the “idiots” and “losers”. Try to respect your fellow Americans – troll.
RightofRush Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
This smells of MK Ultra.
missy Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Um DOA-well if 43 people are shot, I guess he could have fired 43 rounds… You idiot!
talltexxan Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
hey MISSY!! R u for real? Just take one damn second and just think about what happened. unless this guy nailed all 13 of the soliders with a head shot, its gonna take more than one round to kill someone. and I’ve seen reports of many of the wounded that have several gun wounds. so right there that tells you that there HAD to be over 50 rounds. And depending on his shooting style ie: single pistol of two handed shooting. I dont know if youve ever shot 2 pistols at the same time, but its quite difficult to be very accuate. so right there, that lends itself to even more shots being fired. so either this guy had ATLEAST 4 magizines on him or there actually was multiple shooters! come on MISSY use your brain.
C Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Whether or not it was “planned” as part of a “grand conspiracy” is irrelevant, due to the fact that it will almost certainly be used to justify unconstitutional legislature or military policy…which is sort of part of a “conspiracy”.
v Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Good, at least a logical discussion may begin with that comment. Yes, politicians can capitalize off the situation with new unconstitutional legislation. They may take advantage of what happpened and be ready to point out the unconstitutionality of future actions, but this was not some grand Rockefeller/ Rothschild conspiracy. Either was the people shot in Orlando today.
Some of you make the smart truthers seem crazy!
luci Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
yeah but if 9 11 can get pulled off, this is blink…yet, i am not too quick to jump on the conspiracy train either…..Evil evil evil..
v Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
too easy for them to pull off, and no reason to. This is nothing to make a big deal of.
If anything, it will wake people up to really protest the war!
talltexxan Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
hey V. Im not one to jump on the “C” word train either but here is alittle food for thought. wouldnt it be just like the NWO’ers to be behind this. because this would be an perfect argument to have extreme gun regulations and get guns out of our hands! I’m pretty sure they would much rather have us weaponless when the shtf. so why make a NWO like move to get it done. why not use a “tragedy” to implement unconstitutional laws. hmmmmm sounds alot like a certain incedent on sept 11th. I dunno.. just a thought.
777 beats 666 Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
maybe they are doing this to start the revolution. they are hoping for a revolt for martial law. they already say we are a nation of cowards.. sound like sand line drawings to me. Or did it start and we dont know it yet?
Christopher Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Hey V what do you mean by every little thing. The media is making this into a huge story so it’s not a little thing. The story doesn’t add up, what’s wrong with actually using critical thinking instead of just believing what the media tells us. The shooting in Orlando today, unless I find good evidence to the contrary, was probably just a copycat; but this incident is suspicious.
Christopher Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Also look how this plays into the propaganda that vets are dangerous. Before some asshat corrects me I realize he was active military and not a vet.
z8it Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Wow, is this really that hard to understand?
” not everything is a conspiracy”
“Did the Rothchilds really do this too?”
Yeah, good point…
but these “mass shooting” events are perfect DISTRACTIONS ; to divert the attention of the sheeple from a GLOBAL TAX (on being a living human being) ; which is about to be levied on ALL OF US!
The secret N.W.O, Illuminati, ( i.e. Rothchilds) are doing that!
It’s called LOGIC …look into it.
doa Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
no dips---…the FBI and or CIA did it…..they just WORK for the rothschilds….learn what the f--- you are talking about before just spitting idiocy…..
missy Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
The question being addressed was the number of rounds fired. You’re still an idiot.
StarinaNovak Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
He “fired” at least 43 rounds from his weapon, presuming he did not miss any of his shots.
Now, that does not happen, because it was needed 17 shots to kill a man in WWI, 100+ shots in WWII, and later number was getting higher.
So, there is something else going on.
You people don’t beleive that Sirhan Sirhan fired 10 shots from a gun with just 8 bullets without reloading, do you?
RightofRush Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Good points. One of the survivors was shot in his boot without ill effect. Sirhan was definitely a mind control subject, and Hasan has all the hallmarks of being one.
Note: All most always a person who cannot express himself without use of the universal, all purpose adjective, adverb, verb, and noun can be ignored.
Something to consider is that as support for the Afghan war has waned, this incident may have been deemed necessary.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:59 am
These are the kind of articles that make Alex Jones and Infowars less and less credible. AJ may attract new ppl to his views, then turn ppl away after reading garbage like this. NOT EVERYTHING IS A CONSPIRACY ALEX JONES!!! unreal. Patsy? WTF are you talking about? Are you metally retarded perhaps? comparing him to the 07/07 bombers? What do you think happened, this guy thought he was shooting air bullets? or he was being controlled by the voices in his head transmitted through a chip implanted in his head? or it wasn’t him at all? PLEASE AUTHOR? WTF ARE U THINKING? Obviously this guy did what he did, it wasn’t a set up, it wasn’t mind control.
“from all the evidence that has emerged thus far, and in comparing it with other terror scams in the past where patsies have been deliberately groomed and set up to be the fall guys for false flag attacks, everything we know about yesterday’s events suggests that there is infinitely more to the story of Nidal Malik Hasan than meets the eye.”
WHAT EVIDENCE? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? ARE YOU HIGH? ITS CLEAR THAT THIS MAN COMMITTED THESE ACTS. THERE IS NO TEXTBOOK ANSWER AS HOW ONE IS SUPPOSED TO ACT LEADING UP TO AN ACT LIKE THIS.
Please AJ, focus on tangible s---, not this kind of garbage journalism.
Joseph Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Tom,
No everything is not a conspiracy. Just Muslim American soldiers going on a rampage on a military base killing a dozen people and wounding others. Then finding that there are serious errors and conflicts in the story. It may turn out to be nothing, but I for one won’t put anything past our government anymore. If you think it is ok for us to let our guard down at this point, then by all means, turn in your guns now and accept your spot in the new world order.
As for evidence, what about the other two guys who were arrested and then released and carted off for no reason. The one who is high at this point appears to be you. Good luck with that.
As for the conflicting stories, this guy may have had a double life. He may have been one of these Monarch insiders who was setup for this and actually had multiple personalities going at once. This is pure speculation on my part. No evidence, but it does fit what we know so far.
matt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Not only that, HOW DO THESE PEOPLE CLAIMING THAT THESE ARTICLES ARE WRONG KNOW ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT THE “REAL STORY”?? ALL the info has come from media sources, other than the witnesses they cut off on TV and that contradict the “official story”.. How IS THERE ALREADY AN “OFFICIAL STORY” ABOUT THIS?? Honestly you’d have to be pretty dense not to see that there is something up here.
doa Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
EXACTLY!!!!
cl3@cl./\/\3$$3l\|G3r Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 9:59 am
On top of the fact that there are always going to be those who don’t understand the Truth, or just don’t WANT to understand, let’s not forget they have A FULL CREW employed by the dirty gov. to spread disinformation ON THIS SITE ALONE. Every major conspiracy site has it’s own group of monitors and infiltraitors working in gov. “intelligence”… more like gov. IGNORANCE!
…dttnwo…
doa Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
yeah , and lee harvey oswald killed kennedy…
this SIGHT reeks of disinfo agents…..hired under the FBI’s “cyber security” guise….
get a f---ing real job you prick.
Bobfortuna Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Even though I think most Infowarriors are assholes and AJ is wrong about most things I think this is the one are where Infowars excells.
The MSM wouldnt have the guts to be skeptical about This. Maybe theres no conspiracy here but atleast here are some people who are looking.
arrive2thruth Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
alex does NOT Write every w0rd jr article on his sites. HE allows free speech and thought. How else would 72.9% of gou space cadet get too spew your s---.
The only censoring he does ‘IS SWEARING BAF WORDS on his live shows.
The biggest reason most tune in is FREE THOUGHT.
This is written Truth’
StarinaNovak Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Tom, that man could not possibly last long enough to inflict that kind of damage.
At least 43 bullets, and assuming that every fifth bullet hit intended target, ha had to carry over 200 rounds, and that is heavy and bulky, not to mention that he had to reload the weapon every now and then in combat against trained soldier.
Since 9/11, I do not trust any official report made by US.
Period.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:59 am
…how does anyone with two pistols hit 43 people??????????????????????????????????????????????
just curious.
SPIRITBLADE Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Magazines can be extended beyond production specs.
(as i’ve recently learned, there’s alot of things that can be modified for greater firepower)
StarinaNovak Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
And add John Wayne and cavalry behind him. And Billy the Kid. And Wild Horde.
And that would not be enough for that.
Madman Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I’d say 2 15 round clips, and one reload, myself… 45 bullets…
I just hope the Patriots here can do as much with so little, when the time comes.
StarinaNovak Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
You can fire a whole 30 round clip in the battle without hiting anything!
Mostly you achieve is supressing fire in joint effort to accomplish task on battlefield.
Nothing more.
Otherwise, with all those ammo fired, every war could last a couple days at most.
talltexxan Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
AMEN to that! all i got to say is keep your boots tied and your powder dry! live long America we love you!
Air Force Secuirty Police Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:38 am
They have to empty both magazines then reload one the pistols once more. For a total of 45 rounds 43 of them striking their target. Thats of course not knowing how many of the victims recieved multiple gunshot wounds. In that case he could have had to reload several times.
StarinaNovak Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
That is impossible.
Maybe with M60 machine gun. But, your “targets” could look for cover and run in various directions, and guess what, shoot back from various directions.
Madman Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Have you ever took a spot light, and shined it directly at a deer, it freezes in fear.
I’m pretty sure, if someone jumped in a crowded room with guns blazing, chaos and fear stricken people would be little more than moving targets, if they didn’t just stand still, like a deer, waiting to be shot. In a crowd of say 200 people, they would trample each other, and it would create a bottle neck of people at the exits, that you could just unload a clip into and kill at least 13 people.
Chrisco Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
I would hope that soldiers in their final prep for Afghanistan wouldn’t freeze up at the sound of gun fire.
Chrisco Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
I just heard a news report stating that each victim had 3 to 4 bullet wounds. Wouldn’t that be over 100 rounds?
doa Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
HMMMM>>>>> they don’t…
Dutch Lloyd Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
i have a dozen 33 round mags for my Glock 17. at the range, i keep all of them in one cargo pocket in my pants. that means i can totally conceal over 400 rounds, counting the regular length 17 rounder in the weapon at the time. that being said…i think there’s alot more to this story than the Big Guv is letting us hear.
ablaubangada Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
see-http://worldreports.org/
missy Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
My point exactly.
brandini Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Yeah. How the f--- does 1 man, with a gun in each hand hit 43 people? Whatever happened November 5Th 2009 in Fort Hood, Texas wasn’t good! Its BIG! ITS REAL BIG! OBAMA’S PLAN IS UNRAVELING. We are watching our lives being ruined, ON CNN, MSNBC and FOX NEWS every single day and we don’t even realize it. Let me correct myself. I know what the f--- is going on, the rest of the world does not! WE NEED TO SPREAD THE WORD! THE TRUTH NEEDS TO BE TOLD.
We cant do anything about it. What our government has planned for us, has been planned for decades! The only thing we can do is inform people and maybe their natural human instinct will kick in and they will know what to do.
ALL I KNOW IS ITS ALL BAD. WE HAVE NO FUTURE! OUR CHILDREN WILL HAVE NO FUTURE! THE WORLD, “AS WE KNOW IT” IS COMING TO AN END! AND THERE ISN’T s--- WE CAN DO ABOUT IT! TRY TO DO SOMETHING AND YOU’LL END UP IN A FEMA CAMP OR IN ONE OF THOSE MANY “DISPOSABLE” COFFINS THEY HAVE STACKED UP WAITING FOR US! ITS SAD! IT BRINGS TEARS TO MY EYES AND THAT’S THE ONLY THING THAT DOES!
WHOEVER BEGS TO DIFFER, GO f--- YOURSELF! YOUR IN DENIAL AND YOUR SCARED! IVE DONE THE RESEARCH. AND LET ME TELL YOU I DID SOME EXCESSIVE AND INTENSIVE RESEARCH! 8+ HOURS A DAY RESEARCHING EVERY LITTLE LINK, EVERY LITTLE NAME, THE ROTHSCHILD’S, OH f--- THE ROTHSCHILD’S! THEIR f---ED! THEY ARE SOME TWISTED ASS PEOPLE. YOU THINK YOU HAVE SEEN MOVIES OR HEARD STORIES? THAT ISN’T s---! THESE PEOPLE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO MADE US. WHO MADE OUR LIVES AND CONTROL EVERY LITTLE DETAIL OF HOW ITS LIVED!
HOURS TURNED INTO DAYS, DAYS TURNED INTO WEEKS. I HAVEN’T BEEN THE SAME SINCE. LIFE AS I KNEW IT WILL NEVER BE THE SAME. HERE’S SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO, REMEMBER THE PATRIOT ACT? DID YOU KNOW THERE WAS A PATRIOT ACT II? YEAH NO ONE TOLD US ABOUT IT. WANT TO KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THEY DON’T HAVE TO! WE HAVE NO f---ING RIGHTS! THE CONSTITUTION? WHAT THE f--- IS THE CONSTITUTION? THE WHOLE PURPOSE FOR THE CONSTITUTION WAS SO THAT OUR GOVERNMENT COULDN’T GO ON A FULL BLOWN POWER TRIP.
ENOUGH! I CANT DO THIS! I’M A 24YR OLD WHITE FEMALE AND I KNOW THE TRUTH. DO YOU?
I know, I know. Damn she’s good! NVME
cl3@cl./\/\3$$3l\|G3r Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 10:12 am
If we are ever going to heal humanity, we have to heal ourselves first.
Brandini, I have no intention to hurt your feelings, but you really should get over yourself. There is nothing special about you, or me, or any of us, beside the fact that we are all Creation’s children with the ability to CHOOSE our destiny.
Transcend your ego… it is the only way to ever achieve any kind of real inner peace and satisfaction.
…dttnwo…
November 6th, 2009 at 11:01 am
It’s difficult to conceive that a lone gunman can kill 12 and injure 31 with a pair of handguns. Come on, I don’t care how much training you have, that is hollywood blockbuster ninja style efficiency. To be so deadly accurate one would have to have ice in their veins. A person motivated by religious extremism, as we are led to believe they are, are under the influence of emotion. Being emotional doesn’t tend to lead to efficiency in battle. Efficiency, like the 12 killed yesterday or 7/7 or 9/11 or OKC bombing or even JFK cannot be accomplished by lone wingnuts or even groups of wingnuts. People are trained to undertake these missions with the efficiency of rambo by the CIA. How can this be the result of anything else.
I am not a muslim but I know many. Muslim people are peaceful, loving people who want nothing more than to be a part of an civil world. The gov’t has turned the people against them in a colossal act of smoke and mirrors.
SPIRITBLADE Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Ye-ah,
i’ve read the parts of the Koran, where i’m worthy only of death.
so-
[WHATEVER]
matt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
yeah but those exact same lines are in the Old Testament.. LOL but we don’t consider ALL christians and jews to be potentially dangerous terrorists… well unless youre the DHS HAHA
but my point is.. youre an idiot for reading a couple “parts” of a book and assuming things about an entire population of people. I could do the same with the OT anyday.. in fact i would bet the OT is worse and more barbaric and violent than the koran
Tim Singleton Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
You would bet? Wow. You actually admitted you were taking the Islamic side against the Christian just because your personal prejudices incline you to do so.
The Koran is much more violent than the Old Testament. I HAVE read the Old Testament and nothing there indicates that the world must be cleansed of all unbelievers at the point of a sword.
Not all muslims are Islamic terrorists, but there are hundreds if not tens of thousands of Islamic terrorists and sympathizers for every single so-called Christian fundamentalist who mostly only want to be left along on their own property. It is not illegal to be crazy; it IS illegal to be violent and homocidal.
doa Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
hmmmm.the georgia guidestones say the same thing….
brandini Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
YEAH! IF YOU READ ANY OF THOSE BOOKS OF LIES YOU MIGHT AS WELL THROW IN THE TOWEL!
mercyflush Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Plenty of “exact same lines” in the Koran are borrowed from the old testament. Koran quotes moses, mentions david, jesus etc. Refers to jews as ‘the people of the book’. One of the books ( in particular) in the Koran, The Imrans, calls for all non-muslims to be killed. Hell, with everything else that has been going on lately, we’re all cool with that , right?
Max Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Hey Space, I love your show. I will listen to you tommorrow. I’m sure we will get some more audacious lies by the Illuminati soon.
Isaiduseplastic-sheets2Bsafe Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
This The Spaceman from MOJO Radio in Toronto??
Your just like any other regular talking head. Speak a truth with insight, then slide in the lie right behind it to have it excepted as truth.
One, two, a couple guys, who cares how many. Next time it might be 50 of them jumping out of a school bus in a suburban neighbourhood in Dallas with rapid fire machine guns.
I have heard you a few times but not recently. I now wonder what has happened to you and what side you really are on now.
The Muslims here are really just a Trojan Horse with a BS peace message and false smiles on their faces. They are just waiting to take this all over when it all goes down. I can feel their hate when I pass them on the street and see the “it’s not much longer look in their eyes.”
The Muslims have slaughtered thousands of Christians in Sumatra and The Sudan just for having a different believe than themselves.
Those Muslims up in Brampton, they will be comin for you first!!
cl3@cl./\/\3$$3l\|G3r Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 10:27 am
I assure you, it’s not Muslims you need to be wary of. Looks like YOU have fallen for the great 9/11 deception, whether you realize it or not. Try to face your fears and rediscover how to think with REASON instead of letting your misguided emotions twist your worldview.
The only true boogeyman is ourselves. Our world is a collective reflection of our state of Consciousness.
End all oppression… MANIFEST LOVE!
DTTNWO!!!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:03 am
I guess since this wasn’t a White/Black issue, Barry didn’t want to jump to conclusions.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:03 am
If anything it seems like one of us finally got through to one of the military and they fought back against the machine.
SPIRITBLADE Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Wow.
i see that you live in “BUTT-ST00PID”
v Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:52 am
your the stupid one
hipo Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 5:21 am
There can be only one stupid one
hipo Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 5:28 am
Sorry it seems there can in fact be more than one.
Madman Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:45 am
If only we could be so lucky… wouldn’t it be ironic that the first shot of the revolution, were televised, and they were at the hands of a Muslim, who didn’t want to kill his own people. Kind of a poetic irony there, if you think about it.
Bobfortuna Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Revolution is Stupid. If you win you Oppress me. If I win I Oppress you. and theres 10000 factions.
Bobfortuna Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
And most peoples conception of their oppressors is completely misguided. In my mind the only time a Revolution is ever justified is if theres Ethnic Cleansing going on. The American Revolution was not Morally Justified. All those people killed. Over Taxes?:???
Madman Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
If you want to really get down to the jist of things, most wars, and revolutions are really fought for nothing more than ideals, and principals, and these are paid for in human blood and suffering.
It comes down to the question of, are you willing to die for something, or live for nothing.
Bobfortuna Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
We have democratic institutions. You can learn to use them to your bennefit or you can be a “revolutionary” and get killed.
ablaubangada Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
property rights bobby-taxes were just one instance of alot of sufferings created and still are by the men who prefer other men to be king over them (slaves)
Madman Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Bob, I reject your false democracy, and it’s institutions.
I believe in the Republic… for which it stands…
Socrates had no fear of death, nor do I.
Why should anyone fear death?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:10 am
how does someone hit 43 people without being disabled ?
see port arthur massacre
November 6th, 2009 at 11:16 am
The truth is that our government is not protecting us from these attacks. We know it was probably an inside job. If he is muslim and posted anti American remarks on Facebook and he should have been removed from the military. Heres my point this is a good time to get enough support from the American people to overthrow the govt. because it is evident that govt. is not protecting us. All the technology during 9/11 attacks to protect us wasnt used. We truthers know it was an inside job and now its time to recruit the sum of the whole population. I think it is a good argument. Maybe Ron paul, Jesse Ventura, Alex Jones, and all their supporters can all stand up at one time and take our country back in one day:)
matt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
yeah cause thats what we need vatican operatives and masons taking our country “back” from vatican operatives and masons lol
MightyMike Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Did you say your mom is a vatican operative, in addition to the operations she performs on my pen** you f---ing stupid f---. Im not falling for your s--- f---face.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:17 am
What about the ones who were murdered? Was there a reason someone may have wanted them dead, or was it completely random? I’m not crying conspiracy here, but something really doesn’t add up. Why did he have guns there and no one else?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:19 am
“and the FBI has him under survailance for”
It’s surveillance.
I have no idea what to believe at this point – your article raises some interesting points. But snarky remarks and misspelled words do not lend much credibility. How can I show these stories to others without them thinking I’m crazy for coming here for information with writing like this?
notasheeple Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:58 am
if the fbi was watching him then they must of had a clue he wasn’t quite right mentally. Why then would they let him have a gun and use a gun on a military base and promote him. Kinda reminds me of the 911 incident. When the s--- hit the fan all the military planes were conviently out of the area just like the mp’s were conviently on a break eating donuts i guess. I can’t imagine anyone would make it 5 feet on a base discharging a fire arm. But stranger things have happened i suppose. He could just be 1 man that broke and it showed how the military base failed at protecting it’s own on it’s own turf.
brandini Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
If the FBI is watching? If?
t_maestro Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
David if you are afraid of what others think of you…you should stand down now, cuz it is gonna get dirty!!!
As for the shooter; it is a black operation smothered with special ops brewed by The Silent Coup et al.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:21 am
I wonder how it is that Abu thinks he knows so damn much.
Also, the correct spelling IS “reeks”. Abu should also learn how to spell “liar”.
This whole scenario probably IS just a big distraction, and mixed stories so we won’t know who/what to believe…which helps out our not noticing being robbed blind, poisoned by vaccines, and our upcoming transfer of US sovereinty to the UN.
Welcome to the prison, Abu. Spelling won’t much matter there….or just get your vaccine, and then spelling won’t matter at all.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Not everything is an evil conspiracy!!!! This guy was obviously in complete hatred of the US policy of war and decided to off american soldiers on a personal jihad. Simple as that. The fact is, radical muslims hate us all because we are americans. if we are for or against the war matters not to them. Now focus your conspiracies on the real assholes: the Fed & corrupt bankers.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Our military understands they have been deceived.
Whistle-blowers and leaks will not be blacklisted.
Loud chicken-hawks hide behind the troops.
News blackout while lies are fabricated.
Wall Street & not-Federal no-Reserve.
Israel-first dual-national AIPAC.
Mossad media megaphone.
Official 9/11 propaganda.
Anthrax intimidation.
Stealth cia neocons
November 6th, 2009 at 11:23 am
i wonder if they brought him back to life…just to put him on trial and execute him…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMEWh2HBjr0
this world…
November 6th, 2009 at 11:24 am
The key is to keep eye on both balls, healthcare and this “show-ting”. What are the consequences of this event? That will tell you what it really was.
Does it occupy so much media, that people get distracted from health care?
Does it prep the media mind to accept future military defectors /defectives?
Can you juggle or do you suffer from cognitive dissonance?
notasheeple Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
not just healthcare reform distraction but also a distraction from whats going on in the ukraine. The microbiologist that was also muslim that reported months earlier that there would be a biological attack by baxter through vaccination starting in the ukraine. He was whisked away accused of threatening the white house. I wonder where he is now? prolly in a bed next to the gunman from fort hood.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:25 am
easily! a building with lots of unarmed people, a couple of glocks or berrettas with 21 shot magazines thats 42 bullets, or a couple of extended mags mabey 30 rds eack theres 60 bullets in two guns, once the first shot is fired everybody is diveing for cover or frozen in disbelief, and this also shows you the differance bettween a trained soilder shooting a handgun and a gang member trying to be cool shooting hollywood style. (cant hit the broadside of a barn at point blank range).
Air Force Secuirty Police Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:59 am
The odds of him having extended mags and or 21 or more shot magasizines is highly unlikely. especially at a Military installation. If you own a firearm and live on a military installation you have to keep it locked up in the armory on base. I don’t know if that applies to base housing or just barracks style living. But if he just bought the guns with, well he has to wait the 10 day period so he probably already owned them. And I would like to look more into the report about him going to school at virgina Tech because if that is the case then we need to be taking a look at that school. When the Virginia Tech school shooting occured. Cathy O’brien sent out a reminder to certain people to look in her 1996 book trance-formation of american where she reveals being taken to Blacksburg Virginia, home of Virgina Tech, for mind control programming.
AbuBakerSmith Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
OR, he just brought them in from his apartment that morning. Duh…. He was after all a member of Obama’s transition team.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Let’s not forget that the extremist muslim threat is largely a fallacy devised and developed through the combined efforts of British, American and Israeli intelligence. This is known and established fact that most infowars readers should be aware of. Now if it doesn’t exist then this fella going off on a extremist muslim shooting binge to kill the infidels is a story that the media is going to build to mesh it with the rest of the extemist muslim propaganda.
By the way, weren’t a number of the 9/11 terrorists “under FBI surveillance” before the attacks? Maybe they actually mean “under FBI protection”.
Isaiduseplastic-sheets2Bsafe Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
And Again
This The Spaceman from MOJO Radio in Toronto??
Your just like any other regular talking head. Speak a truth with insight, then slide in the lie right behind it to have it excepted as truth.
One, two, a couple guys, who cares how many. Next time it might be 50 of them jumping out of a school bus in a suburban neighbourhood in Dallas with rapid fire machine guns.
I have heard you a few times but not recently. I now wonder what has happened to you and what side you really are on now.
The Muslims here are really just a Trojan Horse with a BS peace message and false smiles on their faces. They are just waiting to take this all over when it all goes down. I can feel their hate when I pass them on the street and see the “it’s not much longer look in their eyes.”
The Muslims have slaughtered thousands of Christians in Sumatra and The Sudan just for having a different believe than themselves.
Those Muslims up in Brampton, they will be comin for you first!!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:37 am
People do contradictory things, it says in some of the other news articles that he’d gotten crap for being a muslim since after 9/11 – hence he was in the army since before they went to Afghanistan, who’s to say that he’s been anti-American and a fundamental islamist all that time? Anyone stop to think that it was because of Afghanistan/Iraq that he decided he wanted out of the army?
Just because all the information isn’t there yet doesn’t mean that its some sort of cover up. Some peoples actions just can’t be explained.
AbuBakerSmith Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
You ever stop to think that you might be an idiot?
Mike Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Did I say I was right? What makes you think you got this whole thing figured out?
Some people just go nuts, it doesn’t have to have been planned and facilitated by the government – EVEN IF they do use it to their advantage (as I’m sure they will).
November 6th, 2009 at 11:37 am
PATSY
MKULTRA
DISTRACTION… Need I say more.
HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Actually yes…you forgot ‘Fool’!!! Remember, you’re Mr.T!!! Ya’ gotta’ end it as such ‘Fool’!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
November 6th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Why do you people have to turn everything into a big conspiracy??? I knew as soon as the shooting happened, that it was a hateful Muslim killing off his fellow soldiers before his name was announced. It doesn’t take a genius to figure that out. Muslims should not be permitted in the military because they not only pose a risk to other soldiers, but also to missions as well.
YELLOWHAK1 Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
CHANEL GIRL lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!your name says it all. very original.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Let me tell you now. It takes an act of congress to promote officers. You just dont make it to O-6 and then shoot at the very people you were trying to help. You cant really even sneak guns on to base. As soon as you open fire, the MA/MP’s would be on top of you.——————This smells like another case of MK Ultra
November 6th, 2009 at 11:45 am
After Pearl Harbor American japs were put in interment camps so why after 9/11 didn’t the gov.org round up all Muslims ? it really make you wonder? if they are such a threat? not that it could not be a Sleeper or MK-ultra?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:45 am
I fear this incident will be the excuse to end privately owned weapons for members of the military…
November 6th, 2009 at 11:54 am
We all need to keep an eye on WHAT ELSE is going down right now.
The NWO is famous for smoke screens and red herrings. Thing is
not to let this otherwise good man get FLUSHED for something he
may have either been brainwashed or set up for.
The idea may be to get all of us looking sideways at every Muslim
or Muslim-looking person we see, thinking they might go off and
start shooting. These days there’s ALWAYS more to events than
meets the eye. We just don’t want to let Hasan slip through the
cracks like another mere piece of trash the NWO wants disposed of.
The NWO wants to make THUGS of us all! Stir our passions up…
make us into RACISTS, BIGOTS & SOCIOPATHS just like THEY are.
Angry and frustrated as we may be, LET US NOT STOOP TO
THEIR LOW LEVEL.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:55 am
http://www.youtube.com/comment.....KYl2HTePYc
November 6th, 2009 at 11:56 am
CHECK out this COMMENT posted at Rawstory: HOW THE TRUTH IS USED AGAINST Americans…
By @ Rawstory.com
http://rawstory.com/2009/11/ar.....-shooting/
Darin43
Wake up
In Washington, a senior U.S. official said authorities at Fort Hood initially thought one of the victims who had been shot and killed was the shooter. The mistake resulted in a delay of several hours in identifying Hasan as the alleged assailant.”
The truth is probably something VERY different. For example:
‘Two US privates John Smith and John Henry had been seeing a military psychiatrist major Hasan at Fort hood for a few weeks. Both privates said they were completely against the war of oppression in the middle east and would refuse to report for active duty if ordered to do so.
So the army put them both in therapy with Dr. Hasan. After more than five weeks of therapy both Christian privates were called to go to Afghanistan. Both privates warned they would not go and they would defend themselves with force if the army tried to force them to fight in a war they believed was morally wrong.
Yesterday fellow soldiers tried to surprize the two consciencious objectors but the privates were prepared and killed 12 soldiers who tried to force their way into the privates’ barracks at Fort Hood.
During the mele their psychiatrist major Hasan, tried to talk the two privates into surrendering but he was shot twice.
Finally both privates were overcome and killed. Their psychiatrist major Hasan is in hospital recovering.’
Officials of the military have spun the story to make it seem the privates’ doctor (who has a muslim sounding name) was the perpetraitor so that the public does not understand just how much resistance there is to the middle east war in the military rank and file.
The whole official Fort Hood cover story is 98% a lie – just like 9/11. Do you trust the main stream media for the truth in a story like this? Heck, for any story?
matt Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
well put.
Hangtime55 Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
” Read Everything , Listen to Everybody ,
Don’t Trust Anything Unless You Can Prove It
With Your Own Research “
We The People Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Reborn You hit this Subject on the Head! out of all the posted comments here Bravo!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:57 am
In the meantime, the house is about to vote on Obama care…
unemployed unarmed in SoCal Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Frank Castle Says…
Sums it up perfectly! Others mentioned watch the other hand. Healthcare, in a word. I am now hearing there is another “shooting” taking place in Orlando.
It is simply about power at this point. Just one example. Why would Bloomberg spend a reported $1,000,000.00 on an election to an office where he agrees to a salary of $1.00? I have nothing against Bloomberg. I feel both parties are equally corrupt. It is all about power at this point.
I am beyond worried about our country. Will a new George Washington show up?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:58 am
And this all happened on the anniversary of Guy Fawkes Day (1601 England). Guess what??? Guy Fawkes was a patsy in that deal also.
Looks like this is a Psy Op that has been repeated by the same dastardly elitists that ran the game way back then.
They have a library of dirty tricks to play at any given time.
A False Flag to whip up anger at the Muslims and push us into hating other humans and the WW3 they are going to have soon.
Look under the surface and find the fermenting ooze that is the NWO.
Remember, you heard it here first, from Charlie Frost.
Aloha.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:59 am
The people that were apprehended and released had nothing to do with the shooting at all. They were just running in the opposite direction of the gunfire and naturally in the state of hysteria, they were apprehended by authorities safely taking no chances that anybody could be a suspect. This has already been confirmed. Regardless of his religion, the fact remains, this guy did what he did. There were not voices in his head transmitted via brain implants, and he wasn’t part of a “drill” like the 07/07 bombers thinking he was shooting air bullets. The magnitude of this horrendous act would be extremely difficult to call a set up. The dozens of injured will surely confirm this nutjob did in fact shoot them. Why is it inconceivable that one man can do this? He does have military training after all? I am all for fighting the NWO. Now obviously this incident makes Muslims look bad and of course the NWO will use this to further their agenda, etc etc. But to suggest this guy was somehow manipulated to do this is a little too far. Maybe all the victims are in on the conspiracy? yeah thats it, they’re just taking one to their slavemaster bigbrother to further the NWO cause. yeah, that makes so much more sense. Face it dimwits, no conspiracy here, some guy went nuts and exploded. he just happened to be muslim. thats it.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
sigh…..consipiracy theorists. Why do you make me feel disappointed to be one? Are you smart enough to use common sense? Can you lay off the shock factor in trying to paint everything as part of the grand scheme conspiracy? Please take the time to think before you write.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Hey didn’t they say the base they was in was full of unarmed solders how the hell he was the only one with two dam pistols… f---in set up
November 6th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Perhaps it’s just a whole bunch of incompetence-based inaccuracies….
No problem-reaction-solution scenario is present here. It’s just a guy that went nuts.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
12 dead (at least)
31 others injured (at least)
——————————-
=43 bullets
M9 Beretta (handgun used by military forces for missions in Afghanistan and Iraq) = 15 round magazines
According to mainstream stories, he paused to reload once.
Therefore, he shot (at most) 45 bullets and hit 43 targets. He went on a shooting rampage and shot with 95.5% accuracy (43/45 hits). This is a portly islamic guy who doesn’t want to be in the military. Use your own reason.
Mike Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Errr read the articles: HE USED NON MILITARY PISTOLS.
Hangtime55 Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Maybe he reloaded twice , or 3 times.
Forget the mainstream stories ! They weren’t there !
The Mainstrean stories also reported that Husan was shot dead moments after the incident !
DUH !
StarinaNovak Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Maybe he reloaded seven times.
Or he had a tank. After all it is written on the gate, armour units, tanks and APC’s inside.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Are you insane? Who wrote this tripe? This paranoia of yours has reached new depths. You need mental health aid and the sooner the better.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
i keep hearing in the news that 13 people died and 30 wonded and he had two handguns. Now i have a question, how many bullets are in the standard issue army handguns? Without any misses we can obviously count 33 shots..Also, if i was on a military base and was planning on gunning down a bunch of people why the hell wouldnt you steal a tank or a big a$$ gun? Atleast a semi auto come on..
Hangtime55 Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Maybe he reloaded twice , or 3 times.
Forget the mainstream stories ! They weren’t there !
The Mainstrean stories also reported that Husan was shot dead moments after the incident !
DUH !
It was reported that there were 3 gunmen involved and that the other 2 they found later after fleeing the scene were later released because they said these 2 guys were just running scared ?
That or they flashed their CIA I.D’s
Eric Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
No One Wants These Israelis Advisors Floating Around
So What’s The Real Truth?
Israel put us in Iraq to kill off Iraq’s military, leaders, and all possible future resistance. They have assured the provocations, and slaughters like Fallujah, through hand-picked Generals Franks and Natonski, who are both Zionist.
When an operation is about to commence, such as Operation Matador, which will secure the Syria border towns, or Haditha, which provides the electrical power for western Iraq, the Mossad will pull a heinous act, that enrages the Marines.
In Haditha, Israeli intelligence hit a convoy with six snipers, and two days later, they took out a APC with 14 Marines. The Marines will now hit the town looking for blood, to avenge their fallen.
http://onlinejournal.com/artma.....3546.shtml
November 6th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
the soldiers were sacrificed. 12 dead 31 injured is the number 231. bill clinton born on 231st day of the year. the shooting took place 216 days from ny shooting in april. obama born on 216th day of the year.
Hangtime55 Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Sorry dude , the death toll is up to 13 .
HO! 13 is a bad number too !
LOL
November 6th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
This is an inside job, no doubt! Two shooters that ran, and poor Hassan as the patsy, lone gunman wingnut, radical muslim, military member gun owner, facebook ranter, poor soldier with radical leanings, etc etc, how much further should I go. As I watched the crap unfolding on Faux news yesterday, I truly found it amazing how much info they had on this guy literally within 30 minutes. Almost like someone dropped a box off at bureau HQ. New “info” on the “shooter” every few minutes. Almost as if someone was reading it off a grand scale playbook.
One thing everyone must remember, everytime there is a mass shooting, regardless of the reasons, the very first thing that happens is the medias call for gun control. Who better to disarm than our own military. Haven’t we already heard of this thing just this summer? Military members being forced to fill out additional forms to register their personal firearms? Remember who the terrorists are according to the dept of Human Sacrifice? Military members returning from theaters of war? This seriously stinks. It was less than an hour after the shootings that Faux news rolled out their favorite anti-gun poster child talking head, Shep Smith. Immediately he began railing on taking away personally owned firearms.
Ok, now lets take a good look at the events in question. But first take a look at my qualifications of what I speak. Vet. Ex-black Ops under G. H. W. B. (the reason I got out). Small arms expert. Even though it has been awhile since being active in the military, it hasn’t been awhile since being at the range. Handguns are limited range, limited power (except for certain large caliber wheel guns). Limited capacity. That is one of the keys here. You have 43 people shot. Already the first responders are saying on the news this morning that many of them were shot more than once. Most handguns with high capacity magazines, will hold between 15-17 rounds. Even if you have one “up the pipe”, how many times did he supposedly have to change mags? The standard M-9 Beretta hi-cap military mags, hold 15. Do the math! Even if he had 2 handguns, and two mags each at 15 rounds, plus an extra round in the chamber in each handgun, that makes 47 rounds total available. If we believe the reports that many of the wounded and dead had multiple shots, there is no way one guy could have pulled this off. You can’t control two handguns, change mags that many times, and make aimed shots that would take that many lives. I truly believe that the reason they said two handguns, is to make it seem more viable, that many shots could have been fired by a “lone gunman”. I guess average citizen might fall for that. Too many western movies of two gun gunslingers. Fact is, he would have been better off with a single auto, with multiple magazines. It takes two hands to operate a high capacity handgun. Sure you can fire single handed, but you can’t operate the mag release, and change mags, and operate the slide, while killing your fellow brothers in arms. It can’t be done, even by expert competition factory shooters. They carry one handgun, multiple mags, and shoot with both hands. Not to mention in order to stay that proficient, they shoot about 100,000 rounds a year. No way.
More likely, two expert shooters, stepped up behind the major, using him as the patsy and a human shield and opened up on the victims. Two shooters with multiple mags, could pull this off. One shooter with two handguns? No freaking way. This seriously stinks!!!
Hangtime55 Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Agreed .
Witnesses state he reloaded once . Okay , did Husan reload both his weapons once , or only one of his weapons once ? I’m even surprised that these facts(?) are being released in the first place .
What has me going is the 2 other guys who fleed from the scene . Why would they single out 2 of the many folks there ? I’m sure that these 2 guys weren’t the only ones trying to get the hell out of there when the shooting began .
If these other 2 guys were beside or near Husan at the beginning of the assault , then that could be cause but SOMETHING Specifcally had to Single out these 2 particular individuals ? What was it ? And were these 2 guys that were apprehended even the same guys who were witnessed fleeing ?
Yup , it stinks .
YELLOWHAK1 Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
OHCRAPNOTAGAIN you missed one, copkiller type guns he used as they showed an animated pic of both guns blazing.
can you say jerry mclick Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 12:20 am
jerry mclick that shoots for smith and wesson is possibly the best shooter of all time. just the fact that he fired that many shells bull crap to that cause its unblieve able why dont alex jones go get 2 guns some water mellons and try this like he did with the 28 gauge shot gun when dick cheney shot that lawyer in the mellon lol. you cant belive the zionist contolled media one itty bitty .
deputydawg931 Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
10-4 Brother, best explaination yet! One report said one of the hanguns was a revolver??? One man did not pull this off, nuff said.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
The so called all the truth all the time news media is still asking “Do you know why this Muslim Major committed these murderers while chanting praise to Allah.”
This question answers itself and is pure unadulterated idiocy by the news moderator.
Most of us forget that in 2003 a 27-year-old captain, Christopher Scott Seifert, was killed and 15 servicemen wounded early in the attack on a tented command area at Camp Pennsylvania, the rear base for the 1st Brigade of the 101st Airborne Division? Who did it? A US soldier converted to Islam.
Or, in May when five American service members were killed at a counseling center on an American military base in Baghdad and were gunned down by a fellow soldier who was later taken into custody. Another converted soldier turned Muslim.
And now so far another 13 US Army soldiers are murdered by a US Muslim soldier at Fort Hood.
And why? Well it’s really quite simple is it not? “He’s a Muslim, and it seems he was just against the war.”
My oh my. So when one is against the war all he has to do to be accepted is to commit murder? How nice.
And where is the news media on all of this? As usual, they are silent.
Remember, if you are not a Muslim then the Quran says you are an infidel, and must be put to death. Many say no way? I say, see for yourself.
Oh and by the way, are you aware that Islam is OK to be preached and taught on all US bases in Iraq and Afghanistan. But US Pastors are commanded to burn any Bibles that are written in Arabic as we do not want to disturb them by committing the sin of proselytizing. And this Infidel Christian religion that calls for peace and says that we are to love our enemies must not be used and, or preached anywhere as Allah must be praised.
And Katie bar the door should anyone bring a Torah on a base.
KORAN commands to kill infidels:
Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. – Sura 2:98
On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. – Sura 2:161
Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. – 2:191
Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah’s religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God’s entirely. – Sura 2:193 and 8:39
Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. – 2:216 Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.
….. martyrs…. Enter heaven – Surah 3:140-43
If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. – 3:157-8
You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. – Surah 3:169-71
If we are going to have those serving in our military who hate us, what can we expect and when the hell are we going to wake up?
BDS
Comrade Bubba Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
The FIRST reply that was right on the money!
November 6th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
MK Ultra Black Op…???? No, I seriously doubt it. Just your typical government establishment that absolutely CANNOT see the enemy in his own tent. Although I feel sorry for the victims, I can ONLY blame the government leadership at large for NOT ONLY allowing him to “serve” in the military, but by even being in the USA! Especially when one considers that he was under observance by the FBI for his radical postings on the net! If it walks like a duck, acts like a duck, and quacks like a duck – well then, guess what? You have 13 dead as a result and a paralyzed government aparatus that has been betrayed by its leaders for embelishing itself in political correctness for so long that it doesn’t dare engage itself in enemy identification let alone even doing anything about if they do identify him. The Federal Government is a major screw job to the American people and even their own soldiers at home or abroad.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
This Hassan fellow went to Virginia Tech. Does this seem strange to anyone else in light of the mass shootings and beheading of coeds at that school?
adam goldstein Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
and ft hood is in killing texas where the lubus massachre occured
November 6th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
i dont see why a pissed off muslim with a gun is hard to believe. the others are probably tied to a board sumwhere upside down with water being poured down their nostrils. thats my theory, and we may never know what the hell really went on on the 5th of november. but i agree that just because it happened on US soil doesn’t mean that its a false flag or the work of the government. the government is not the only thing in the united states that is f---ed in the head. i do agree that the story is very fishy, but leave it to the mainstream media to f--- every single story around unitl it bleeds out the ass with confusion and second guessing. but then again, leave it to the alternative media to assume that just because 13 american soldiers die on US soil that the government was behind it. if the govt wanted them to die (and of course they did) they would have died in the middle east “for a cause.” thats just my opinion tho. and by no means am i stickin up for big brother cus he can suck a fat one. im just sayin theres just as many holes in the theory as there is in cnn’s story or fox news’ story. i think theyre all just scratchin their heads with the other thumb up their asses.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
By Christopher Story FRSA, Editor and Publisher, International Currency Review, World Reports Limited, London and New York.
FORT HOOD: RECOVERY OF THE CHINESE CURRENCY BOXES
OPERATION TO SEIZE BACK BOX GANG’S LOOT MASKED BY SHOOTINGS
Friday 6 November 2009 02:15
THE FORT HOOD SHOOTINGS: THE REAL STORY
The shootings were staged in order to cover up what was really happening behind the scenes which was as follows:
(1): George H. W. D. V. D. Bush, the head of THE BOX GANG working with the Clintons, had stored some or all of the stolen/diverted 1933 dollar currency Chinese currency boxes referenced in our reports dated 4th and 5th November 2009 at Fort Hood. These boxes form part of the Settlement negotiated with the Chinese parties, who were immediately double-crossed by the Americans.
(2): We do not know at the time of posting whether George Bush Sr. had flown in to Fort Hood from Germany, but as this base is located close to Crawford and other Bush Crime Family locations, we believe this to be HIGHLY PROBABLE.
(3): Whether Bush Sr. flew into Fort Hood to be joined with the stolen/diverted Chinese-sourced currency boxes, or was accompanying stolen boxes on the plane, is not strictly material, because what we DO KNOW is as follows:
(4): An operation was mounted at Fort Hood to CONFISCATE THE STOLEN CHINESE CURRENCY BOXES FROM BUSH SR., which achieved its objective. The currency boxes, forming part of the Settlement that Adolf Schickelbusch sabotaged with the duplicitous assistance of his agent, Chancellor Angela Merkel [see preceding reports], were retrieved.
(5): It is likely that the shoot-out which occurred for public consumption was a diversionary operation masking a parallel shoot-out involving Bush bodyguards and US military, although we cannot confirm this. Certainly, the ‘mainstream’ media, as usual, is running the wrong story.
(6): The deployment of 500+ heavily armed troops, and the fact that military helicopters were called in, implies a sizeable operation, which would be make little sense in the context of a shooting such as is described in the media. That does not diminish the nastiness and tragedy of the loss of life as reported: but when this operation was planned, loss of life was factored into the equation.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
http://www.worldreports.org/ne.....ency_boxes
.9.th.1. Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
The Plot Thickens…
Thanks for the Intel Report !
November 6th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Rothschild deus ex machina…???? http://www.folloder.com/pix/cl.....monkey.swf
November 6th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Just heard there was a mass shooting in Orlando, Florida. I bet government is going to use these events as a means to step up the police state and ram through gun control bills.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
WOW BREAKING NEWS WITH CONFLICTING REPORTS AND SOME FACTURAL ERRORS.
IT MUST BE THE NWO AND JEWS!!!!!11111111111111111111111
are you guys this retarded
ablaubangada Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
no we are not as retarded as you-who is it then wiseguy thats what I thought
November 6th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
This is just too messy for the people that really sustain the world. Make the economy bloom again.
My proposal: employment for 5 to 10% of the adult population in each country of the world. In the USA it will be at the cost of 0.7 trillion per year, which is below the national debt (10 to 20 million jobs at $70000 to 35000 per year). The economy is lifted at the same time. Terrorism will slow down and jobs are created not for weaponery, enough of that.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
The way I see it is this:
New unemployment numbers are up and there is no sign of that stopping. What do you do? Create a diversion so as to distract the sheeple and take their attention away from the economy. That way 10% unemployment does not look as bad as 13 dead 31 injured at the hands of a Muslim (You know the people that the government says are trying to kill us).
Madman Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
I agree with you.
People are easily distracted. Wall Street nearly shat it’s self yesterday, when the first time unemployment numbers came out 20,000 less than expected… no one took into consideration that 512,000 people got the axe. Now that the real unemployment numbers *halved, of course* are hitting the street, Wall Street is still s---ting bullion and pissing silver. Much better they have something to push this behind… if they could have saved Michael Jackson’s death until now, we’d all be listening to Beat It, and remembering the days of yore, and forgetting about our unemployed brothers and sisters.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
I have a question, why was the local police on the base?
Doesn’t fort hood have a provost marshal office ?
I searched the internet I couldn’t find one.
I was in the Marine Corps, and every base had a provost marshal and military police.
Fuct Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Yes there is a provost marshal but for whatever reason LTG Cone the Installation Commander hired contracted police to collaborate with the MPs here at Ft. Hood.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
There is such paranoia from the writer of this article it’s funny.
There is nothing strange about a man doing his job while letting slip some discontent over U.S. policy or even not wanting to be shipped to a war zone AND still being promoted. You get promoted just by time served alone! You can be a near total s--- bird and still get promoted, just not as fast as someone who does everything right. It’s like working in a union or a government job.
His family defends him and sheds the best possibly light on him….that is natural. Those not close to him, naturally see him in a different light.
Also mentioned was his behavior prior to the shooting…I see nothing contradictory. His mind was resolved, so he lived out his last morning like any other. If he was conflicted then he might appear more nervous and act more strange, but he wasn’t conflicted. That explains his behavior. He shouted allah akbar, he expected to be shot dead but he had no fear of death. That is the resolve of a terrorist. Some terrorists might exhibit fear others might not. He did not.
The writer of this story needs to expand his thinking and not let his paranoid feelings control his thinking.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
DISTRACTION
DISTRACTION
DISTRACTION
DISTRACTION
Gary Cooper Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Yup.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
The other shooters remind me of OKC John Doe #2. I don’t see how so many successful shots came from one shooter, on a millitary base. Where were the MP’s or soldiers at the firing range? Why did a local police force have to come to the rescue?
How did a guy that was blatantly anti-US Military with Islamic extremist tendencies get deployed to an overseas war zone?
November 6th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Rothschild deus ex machina …??? http://www.folloder.com/pix/cl.....monkey.swf
November 6th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Mutiny in the ranks & refusal to deploy being covered up by a stereotypical “Muslim Terrorist suicide” style plot maybe? I mean they are hardly likely to announce publicly that there was mutiny are they????
More info will probably leak in the coming days……..we’d be wise not to jump to the conclusion we’re being led to.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
MM:How Convieniant is this the convieniant Truth?! The Real Consperacy Story.This will be a shocking opener to to the American People Report to NYT Imediatley!
Revolt NOW!
November 6th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Good Morning JIHAD America. Wake up and smell what’s brewing at your local mosque. If this is an endorsement for Muslim Mental Health then you can keep it. No Sale, No deal, No thank you.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
What a silly excuse for a story, why was this even published here? No wonder most people don’t take this site seriously. While were at it why not harp on the fact his home address while in high school was 666 Ramada. Perhaps the devil took him over then, or when he attended VA Tech, known for it’s reputation of murder by gun and beheading. Let’s talk facts, not sensationalism.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Who believes this is the motive posted on this blog site below:
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.....=517345456
November 6th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. – Sura 2:98 God is the enemy to unbelievers. Not True, hate can’t hate what doesn’t exist
On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. – Sura 2:161 I guess if the other doesn’t work logically, then I guess it must be me.
That’s exactly right.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
TOM HENEGHAN SAYS:
The latest neocon “False Flag” black op attack at Fort Hood, Texas was staged to divert and divide the U.S. Military and keep patriotic U.S. Flag Officers from arresting the Bush-Clinton Crime Family Syndicate, along with its compromised rogue intelligence agency and corporate-controlled fascist, extortion-friendly U.S. media enablers.
.9th.1 Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
BINGO !
You Are Exactly Correct !!!
November 6th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
‘hes just misunderstood’so says the left of the equation.just like the 911hijackers?
hipo Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 5:23 am
What hijackers?
November 6th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
RED FLAG ALERT! USA Today is stating: “Web Post By Fort Hood Gunman Major Nidal Malik Hassan Could Shed Light On Motives” It then shifts and states he is not actually confirmed to have made a hostile web post, only suspected of it. But they give us the frowned on quote anyway, despite admitting admit Hasan could have absolutely nothing to do with: “Scholars have paralled [sic] this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers. If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory. ”
He went to Virginia Tech… The Waco Red Cross Office has a hotline open …Just swallow this story as a psycho rampage from a Major who was supposedly bullied for his Muslim faith, yet we don’t know who claimed this… Who bullied a Major? Colonels and Generals?
November 6th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
As a current military officer myself I wanted to add a few comments. Promotion boards are set by a board of random officer peers and other more senior officers from the entire service (so for a major promotion board the board would have consisted of some majors and colonels most likely) who put in for it. So, likely, the officers who chose to promote this guy to major didn’t know him personally, as it ought to be. At a promotion board, officers by law, can only look at official Officer evaluation reports and other “official” documents. All this hear-say about family members saying he wanted out could very possibly have never gotten anywhere near his official military record.
They are limited in what kinds of things they can look at at a promotion board. So his official record was compared against the official record of many other officers and the names likely would have been no different than different seriel numbers to the board members.
Come on Alex, does everything need to be a conspiracy? Does everything need to bear some connection to the NWO? Isn’t it possible this is just a random nut case who went off the deep end??
November 6th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Now this article is 1000 times better than Paul Watson’s article. This actually goes into why he is a patsy. Watson cant write to save his life.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
on CNN they said it was ’suspicious’ that he went shopping that morning in his muslim clothing! the guys a f’ing muslim! they ware that stuff for casual wear.
i’ve even heard it called a ‘terrorist incident’ ! any excuse!
plus he was a psyc-guy, looked after troops returning from the bollocks iraq and afgan wars, suicidal with guilt over the meaningless of their missions. that is why there are currently record suicides amongst marines – they know the truth.
MEN WHO STARE AT GOATS came out in cinemas yesterday – and the film includes a plot where a troop shoots up a military base. check the film on imdb.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
i beleive he was caught up in the occult like the rest of the sheeple.all the conflicting information in all directions its a matter of time before everyones number comes and they decide to ‘check out’the biggest occult outlet is that ‘idiot box’that people covent so much.i forget witch one of the old testament profits said’woe unto him that worships the dumb stone laid in silver and gold[transistors&circuitry]behold it will teach,alas there is no breath in its midst’.something like that anyway.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan
NEW YORK – Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the alleged shooter in yesterday’s massacre at Fort Hood, played a homeland security advisory role in President Barack Obama’s transition into the White House, according to a key university policy institute document.
The Homeland Security Policy Institute at George Washington University published a document May 19, entitled “Thinking Anew – Security Priorities for the Next Administration: Proceedings Report of the HSPI Presidential Transition Task Force, April 2008 – January 2009,” in which Hasan of the Uniformed Services University School of Medicine is listed on page 29 of the document as a Task Force Event Participant.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
this story does in fact stink! when they asked this black lady about the shooter she said that she didnt notice nothing strange about this guy. but then she said she saw allah written on the wall written by the suspect. now if you ask me that is a red flag! this story is very strange. there is something very strange about it! we must remember that the media is full of dirty tricks.
Semfi Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
At 2:30 eastern, 1:30 local time, a mass shooting occurred at the Fort Hood army base, the largest American military installation in the world, covering some 15 square miles. Army Lieutenant Colonel Christopher Garver confirmed that the violence erupted at or near the Howze Theatre, next door to the Folgers Soldier Readiness Processing Center contained within a former sports dome at the base, located in Killeen, Texas, some 50 miles from Waco.
Initial reports indicated that seven personnel were dead and that 12 had been wounded. These reports also indicated that one gunman was in custody and that another was being sought. Later reports have confirmed that the total number of personnel who died is twelve, with 31 injured.
Later reports said that more than 30 personnel were injured, that the base was in ‘lockdown’ and that the assailant, named as Major Malik Nadal Hassan, a US Army mental health psychologist or psychiatrist, had been shot dead. Two other assailants were arrested and are in custody, according to a briefing by Army Lieutenant General Robert Cone, the post commander.
British press sources state that Major Hassan had walked into the training centre armed with two handguns and had opened fire on fellow military personnel who were having last-minute medical and dental checks before being deployed to Afghanistan – whereupon gunfire erupted around the base as the two accomplices were captured.
The Daily Telegraph says that one of the assailants had holed himself up in a brain injury unit, where he was surrounded by SWAT teams, Four police officers were wounded before he was arrested. 500+ troops were deployed to lock down Fort Hood as helicopters swept overhead.
Lieutenant Commander Cone mouthed for the eager press:
‘It’s been a terrible tragedy. It’s stunning. We are absolutely devastated. The shooter was killed. He was a soldier. We since then have apprehended two additional soldiers who are suspects. There were eyewitness accounts that there may have been more than one shooter’.
The violence erupted shortly before a graduate ceremony for soldiers was due to start at the base. Enter President Barack Obama with this bromide for public consumption:
“These are men and women who have made the selfless and courageous decision to risk, and at times give, their lives to protect us’.
‘It‘s difficult enough when we lose these brave men and women overseas. It is horrifying when we lose them on American soil’.
Step forward, also, Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, who pronounced:
‘Our dedicated military personnel have sacrificed so much in service to our country and it sickens me that the men and women of Fort Hood have been subjected to this senseless, random violence’.
Okay, that’s enough. Base commanders and the Pentagon stated that they had no early indication of the motive for the shootings. As the story ‘line’ matured, though, it was being said that the killer, aged 39, was ‘upset about being ordered to be deployed to Iraq’.
Note the convenient Islamic name description of the now assailant, who was initially declared dead. However some British reports mid-morning were saying that the assailant has survived.
THE FORT HOOD SHOOTINGS: THE REAL STORY
The shootings were staged in order to cover up what was really happening behind the scenes which was as follows:
(1): George H. W. D. V. D. Bush, the head of THE BOX GANG working with the Clintons, had stored some or all of the stolen/diverted 1933 dollar currency Chinese currency boxes referenced in our reports dated 4th and 5th November 2009 at Fort Hood. These boxes form part of the Settlement negotiated with the Chinese parties, who were immediately double-crossed by the Americans.
(2): We do not know at the time of posting whether George Bush Sr. had flown in to Fort Hood from Germany, but as this base is located close to Crawford and other Bush Crime Family locations, we believe this to be HIGHLY PROBABLE.
(3): Whether Bush Sr. flew into Fort Hood to be joined with the stolen/diverted Chinese-sourced currency boxes, or was accompanying stolen boxes on the plane, is not strictly material, because what we DO KNOW is as follows:
(4): An operation was mounted at Fort Hood to CONFISCATE THE STOLEN CHINESE CURRENCY BOXES FROM BUSH SR., which achieved its objective. The currency boxes, forming part of the Settlement that Adolf Schickelbusch sabotaged with the duplicitous assistance of his agent, Chancellor Angela Merkel [see preceding reports], were retrieved.
(5): It is likely that the shoot-out which occurred for public consumption was a diversionary operation masking a parallel shoot-out involving Bush bodyguards and US military, although we cannot confirm this. Certainly, the ‘mainstream’ media, as usual, is running the wrong story.
(6): The deployment of 500+ heavily armed troops, and the fact that military helicopters were called in, implies a sizeable operation, which would be make little sense in the context of a shooting such as is described in the media. That does not diminish the nastiness and tragedy of the loss of life as reported: but when this operation was planned, loss of life was factored into the equation.
• It’s called cynically: COLLATERAL DAMAGE.
[Do they CARE that at least seven personnel lost their lives and over 30 were injured in a parallel cover-up operation? That’s like asking whether the sacrifice of over 100 special US operatives who spearheaded the Bush-directed seizure of the Central Bank of Iraq in Baghdad in 2003, all of whom were massacred immediately afterwards so that none of them would survive to report for posterity what actually happened, was an accident. That operation went badly wrong, and was exposed, too: reliable Iraqi eyewitnesses supplied the necessary reports and confirmation].
It is impossible at this juncture to be sure whether the gunfire was part of the main operation, i.e., the whole operation was synchronised, or whether two separate operations were run in parallel. But that is hardly material, given the momentous details and substance of this report.
(7): Separately, we understand that George Bush Sr.’s assets in the Caribbean – ‘his’ money – was seized at the same time, or at least at some stage on 5th November 2009.
(8): Adolf Schickelbusch has also been informed that ‘you are not going to get a penny. You will be paid NOTHING’. [Assuming, that is, that he's still vertical. But that's all we know right now].
This reflects the fact identified earlier, namely that these Germans ALWAYS go too far. Bush Sr. WENT TOO FAR by sabotaging EVEN the carefully nuanced arrangements worked out with the Chinese authorities and parties, and with the other sovereign powers, including the British Monarchical Power. He thought he could carry on carrying on, blind to the fact that IT’S OVER.
• As a consequence, HE HAS LOST EVERYTHING. HE HAS BEEN CLEANED OUT.
NOW. As indicated, we cannot yet confirm that GEORGE BUSH HIMSELF flew into Fort Hood. If he did, it stands to reason, given the above FACTS, which have themselves been CONFIRMED, that George H. W. Bush would have been arrested OR HORIZONTALISED.
We may yet learn that this took place.
All we can do at this stage is to remind you of the phrase ‘Not YET’ in the preceding report.
Was Bush 43 also arrested, horizontalised or all of the above during this showdown?
WE HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT WHEN CERTAIN STRUCTURES WERE MADE AWARE THAT WE HAD WORKED THIS OUT, THERE WAS A STUNNED SILENCE.
• THE STRUCTURES CONCERNED WERE ‘SHOCKED TO HEAR IT FROM US’, WE WERE TOLD.
PART OF THE PREVIOUSLY REFERENCED INTERNATIONAL CLEAN-UP OPERATION
Who ordered this operation? It would have been ordered, or at least condoned (see below) by the ‘President ‘of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama, who, we have repeatedly been told, has been anxious to complete the Settlements and was known to be fretting under the weight of the general contempt in which he was being held by all ‘in the know’, concerning his apparent inability to get his ARROGANT inferiors to carry out his instructions on this score.
At the same time, this operation implies the likelihood that it forms part of the INTERNATIONAL clean-up associated inter alia with the presence in the United States of 72 heavily armed cadres tasked with ENFORCEMENT of the Writ of Execution by all means, including the use of FORCE. Therefore to state that the operation will have been ordered by President Obama may be too simplistic. There are further major developments in the pipeline, and further revelations too.
Nevetheless, Mr Obama has been systematically sabotaged by penetration operatives, including Rahm Emanuel, Lawrence Summers, Timothy Geithner, Mrs Hillary Clinton, and Dr Ben Bernanke.
If this assessment is correct, we would anticipate some high-level dismissals or resignations from the US Government soon, if it turns out that this DECISIVE ACTION has indeed broken the impasse and destabilised the opposition beyond any likelihood of recovery. We shall (soon) see.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
My Cheerios spelled ‘Flouride’ this morning. No s---.
hipo Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 5:24 am
Thx
November 6th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
there is a book that can explain much of my ‘theory’.'mozarts brain&the fighter pilot’i liked the audio version i found dr.ryciaks voice relaxing.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
NOT EVERYTHING IS A CONSPIRACY, INFOWARS! Infowars is losing some credibility in my eyes.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
peoples brains have been trained to be so malleble and their so gullable they beleive every thing they hear or see.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
This site is lame!
hipo Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 5:24 am
Well most of us are walking wounded.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
I find it interesting how so many people could believe something as HUGE as 9/11 could be a staged event, but a small mass murder at Fort Hood could not be.
American government and American media has become a profit-run industry. Why would it be hard to believe that something like this could be fabricated to fan the American fear of terrorism for a higher purpose, such as keeping the war going? It is sick, but it makes sense. Contradictions can be found everywhere, but in a situation like this – EVERY DETAIL matters. The man was a psychiatrist, in a place where psychiatric screening takes place, where psychiatric drugs KNOWN to cause homicidal and suicidal tendencies are handed out like candy on Halloween.
Did you know that Hitler was treated by psychiatrists before becoming one of the world’s most famous dickwad?
Pay attention – something bigger could be being covered up, something bigger could be starting. We need to know our government, know its intentions, and counter it. Or else we could become an only for profit people.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Such a Pathetic ” Fall – Guy ” Black Operation that the United States
and the World have not seen since Lee Harvey Oswald was the Patsy
Fall Guy for The Shooting of President John F. Kennedy in Dallas, Texas !
Also Everyone Should Notice the ” Proximity ” of This Shooting and The Dallas JFK Shooting !
November 6th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Sure Abu… Go ahead and defend the media and the Gov. But the witnesses are the ones saying there were other gunmen. I hope this incident spawns hundreds if not thousands of military truth seekers. I say we try to contact them and enlighten them on what just went down. Then they will know what they are supporting and join us.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
My Posts are Constantly Being Removed from this Alex’s Forum !
I do not think that Alex or any of his staff is Deleting Anyone’s Posts !
This Deletion and Control of Who Can Post and What Posts They Leave,
is No Doubt Being Done and with Internet Over-Ride Access That ONLY THE FED’S Could Have !
You Know that you are Over The Target, When You are Taking Flak !
November 6th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
This is nonsens hahaha sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory. Do you also believe in 9/11 that it happened? hahahahaha
November 6th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Once again an event with way too many holes and questionable responses from the military. This guy must’ve been one hell of a soldier to inflict this much damage. The Military is very good at deception, lies and strange Psyops. Good for anyone questioning this event. Same as the Joseph Moshe event. Just a cesspool of incomplete half-truths and fog-of-war. Maybe they’re testing responses to the event, to see if they can make us believe anything they want us to believe? Just a thought, of course! Stay aware, awake and always question!
soldier Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 2:24 am
I bet if you put me in a room armed with 2 pistols against 20, elite, well trained navy seals that are UNARMED, and start out at least 10-20 feet away from me, and give me the element of surprise (I walk in and immediately just start shooting) I bet I could do some damage.
A gun multiplies your kill power many times over someone who doesn’t have a gun, PERIOD.
Soldiers are not allowed to have guns while on base, unless you are a guard or a MP. The gun grabbers are just as responsible for what happened here as anyone.
damn those gun grabbers.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
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For those who think that they just have to have that vaccine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIjm9w_-tNY
November 6th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
This are from the media…
Officials are not ruling out the possibility that some of the casualties may have been victims of “friendly fire,” that in the confusion at the shooting scene some of the responding military officials may have shot some of the victims.
Col. Steve Braverman, the Fort Hood hospital commander, said early Friday that Hasan was on deployment orders to Afghanistan. A military official later told The Associated Press that Hasan was to be deployed to Iraq. It was not immediately possible to verify the discrepancy.
Cone acknowledged that it was “counterintuitive” that a single shooter could hit so many people, but he said the massacre occurred in “close quarters.
At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.
Investigators had not determined for certain whether Hasan was the author of the posting, and a formal investigation had not been opened before the shooting, said law enforcement officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the case.
Seems like somebody jumped the gun , and THEY didn’t have everything set up properly ..? All the lies for us ?
November 6th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Of course all the shootings deflect attention from that dismal employment report. . .
November 6th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
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Any word on what kind of pistols he was shooting?
My guess is a Beretta 9 mil….being that he is military, and a foreigner and if he got any training from the military in shooting a pistol, it was with a 9 mil.
13 kills is a damn good score with 9 mil ammo. This guy was a good shooter, or he had help.
I smell a satanic psy-op for several reasons….
1.)——Being that the shooting is almost exactly 20 years to the day from the Luby’s Cafeteria shooting in Killeen, TX
2.)——-It falls along the same lay lines as the Clinton era school shootings.
3.)———Dates and times… 11-5-09 at the 13th hour of the day, with 13 now dead.
4.)———–Shooter was a Virginia Tech graduate (same school as the asian shooter who killed 22? people at VA Tech.) That area has strong ties to the whole military psych warfare community.
And from a practical perspective….WHY DO WE HAVE MUSLIMS IN OUR ARMY ?!?!?!?!!?????
Or for that matter, why do we even allow them in the country?
soldier Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 2:19 am
Not all muslums are hell bent on killing others. Surely you would agree with this.
The true solution to this is to allow eveyone to be armed as needed. We should all be allowed to be armed as we walk around as civilians and the military on bases should be allowed to be armed. Prohibiting guns anywhere just gets the guns away from the good, law-abiders, PERIOD. I beleive that tyranny anywhere could be eliminted if every single person has a gun.
A gun in every home = peace on every street.
November 6th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
I am in Iraq but stationed out of Fort Hood. My wife and children are living on base, I have confirmed through friends back home that there was more than one shooter. There were 3 places shootings took place all at the same time. My wife and neighbor both separately heard shots in the housing area’s which are nowhere near the processing center. There was shooting at the Theater AND the Processing Center. Fort Hood is controlling the news going out and the reporters are not allowed on base.
November 6th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Rothschild says Excellllent…..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc9_cDdLsms
November 6th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Question why do we have a policy of allowing those with no cultural similarites to come here? some dude wrote this, from this ignorant statement i can only guess he’s a caucasian. i find most caucasians to be the most hyprocrytical people on earth. i wonder if the natives of this beautiful land said the same thing when the europeans came to north america bringing their diseases and their whores. i come on this site daily almost. the message is clear something is not right but most ppl are arguing with each other. who cares alex jones is making money thats what man does wouldnt u. its part of who we are bottom line is one way or another this s--- is happening. im jus sad cause all of our brother and sisters keep fighting with each other. time is ticking it never stops not for u not for me not for them. and stop using unintelligent words. every other person is like f--- this, asshole that, are u really the dumb. go read a dictionary.
November 6th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
where is william cooper to figure this out alex jones is working for obama and wont say any thing thats 100 percent truthful cause his wife is one of them and we should all make our own web site and boy cott alex jones cause he is the enemy
Hangtime96 Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 12:28 am
If your a true Bill Cooper Fan , like I am , then you’ll know what to do . I am a UFO conspirator and been one going back to the early 90’s . Bill had alot of good information available for many years . Like Phil Schneider , they were warning us about A NWO for a long time .
Well , Phil was found Murdered on 1/17/1996 , and even though the cause of death was listed as a stroke , it was found later that he was strangled to death .
Bill Cooper , after being harrased by ‘ authorities ‘ for a long time , Bill was shot dead at his front door step , UNARMED .
Point here is that Bill Cooper always said :
” . . . Read Everything , Listen to Everybody ,
Don’t Trust Anything Unless You Can Prove It With Your Own Research . . . ”
I’ve always lived by that motto . Sure Alex Jones ‘ seems ‘ like he’s one of ‘ us ‘ , but I don’t trust anyone I don’t know . Alex Jones is a guy who tels ME what he thinks and he makes alot of sense most of the time but do I trust him ? ? ?
Like Bill Cooper said :
” . . . Read Everything , Listen to Everybody ,
Don’t Trust Anything Unless You Can Prove It With Your Own Research . . . “
November 6th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
The fact that he is still alive proves it’s a cover up. Normally, one would have 30 to 50 rounds in his or her dead body after firing on a crowd of people. Not in this case…Nope….He was shot 4 times by a single officer. He is alive to reinforce whatever story they come up with.
Pete Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Conflicting reports are because everyone is trying to get the scoop on any piece of information even if it is not researched. It boils down to a member of the “Religion of Peace” got upset and killed soliders in the US Army. Give him whatever excuse you want. He killed fellow soliders. The deepest depts of hell have a special place for traitors. And as for cover up the Army ranger in Iraq who attacked and killed his fellow soliders was not killed either. Its not a cover up just no one finished the job.
Chrisco Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Oh, so you bought the line fed by the media…..Alrighty then. Hmmm, there’s already reports that the majority of the 43 people had 3 to 4 bullet wounds each. “He” must have been a really fast reloader. Yeah, never mind the first reports of others being involved. Oh well, I’m sure it will all be explained to us later.
soldier Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 2:32 am
Not saying it wasn’t a conspiracy because it probably was, but do you know how easy it is to drop a magazine from a modern weapon and slip in another one and reload with another 15 ready to go? I agree that an untrained civilian on an adrenalen rush would be fumbling all over the place, but a trained military person could reload super quick. It isn’t like extra magazines weigh 50 lbs each either.
November 6th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Why does it surprise any one there is confusing reports .
You had the same thing with LA fitness shooting in Pittsburgh.
Everyone wearing same type of clothing etc. and people making half statements and statements during stress no wonder all the confusion everyone making assumptions based on what?
Let the smoke clear examine the evidence then decide.
otherwise everything is a conspiracy and you make yyourself sound like a kook.
November 6th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
In the UK, if I remember correctly, anybody who intends to serve their minimum term but leave immediately afterwards, without buying their way out (the only other legal manner to exit) gets the rank of ‘Major’. Excuse me if I’m wrong, and the situation may not replicate stateside. So, he intended to leave is all that the promotion to Major represents, I believe.
November 6th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
This whole incident stinks. I’m sure it will be ignored but these “lone gunmen” incidents are bogous as hell.
November 6th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Just got a Facebook message from a friend in the Army stationed at Ft. Bragg, NC. Here’s what he said…
“We got a breifing today on something that might interest you. The army is piecing some s--- together and is trying to prepare for a false flag situation. My unit got briefed on domestic threats and homeland security breachings and s---. The s--- your talking about seems to be true man, the shooting at fort hood is connected with alot of other things appearantly and its all hush hush. They also brought out the fact that there are more and more car bombs being used and found in the U.S., this s--- is wild.”
Eric Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
The 99 of 100 Americans (heavly armed sheep) not in federal prison on `lock-down` are getting restless.
Take care, and remember that grand juries exist for the agent provocateurs and other criminals and their uniformed bodygards.
Where is our Octavian to cure the ills of the American Empire?
Augustus was undoubtedly one of the most talented, energetic and skillful administrators that the world has ever known. The enormously far-reaching work of reorganization and rehabilitation which he undertook in every branch of his vast empire created a new Roman peace with unprecedented prosperity.
Following in the footsteps of Julius Caesar, he won genuine popular support by hosting games, erecting new buildings, and by other measures to the general good.
November 6th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
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November 6th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
seems like Icke’s problem-reaction-solution theory is working here…..
Icketards eatreptilepoop Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
seems like an Icketard thinks Icke first exposed the whole Hegelian Dialectic/Problem-Reaction-Solution thing. He didn’t. Icke just ‘borrowed’ a bunch of conspiracy info from books etc. of others and added his new agey touch and laced it with his reptile $hit.
November 6th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
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November 6th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Two Guns and 12 dead and 31 injured…MAGIC BULLETS!
soldier Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 2:39 am
A. Cho Sung We killed quite a few, I dont think he was a professionally trained soldier.
B. the people were unarmed. Who knows how much time he enjoyed? When you got scared unarmed people against someone armed, maybe he was able to take his time? We can’t assume that our video gameified wussified generation x soldiers are brave people particularly when they are unarmed
November 6th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Two pistols. 43 rounds. Firing two handed. Young, healthy, battle hardened soldiers running. He would have been lucky to kill 3 to 4.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
What “We” the people should pay attention to is what our so called elected representatives invoke draconian measure which are also pursued by the Obama administration to somehow act as if they have some solution to this type of crime without discussing the facts of the crime.
The real crime is the false, lazy, decietful whore mongering, traitorous main street media giants. Did I mention they were liars? Yes, I did, ok anyway…
What a joke. These guys get payed to lie and are always inventing new ways to milk the government for the act of selling the nation down the river for a few magic beans. These guys are real IDIOTS and we are starting to see them for what they are. Liars, murderers, greed, power drunk crack addicts that laugh and cackle when they drink the blood of innocent victims.
We should admit that we are fed up and yet they show no degree of ever becoming human again.
The elected officials of this nation have perhaps been taken over by seed pods filled with lots and lots of money from big business. This point alone is a major problem with America and not until we remove the corruption from politics will we as a nation ever be back on the road to freedom and prosperity.
We must hold someone accountable and that accountability must be the same for the top as much as for the little guy at the bottom. Equal justice for all fuels freedom and without it we are wasting our time and our lives.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Rothschild says …Don’t look at this….??? http://www.youtube.com/user/po.....dQ8ctWqxYU
November 6th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
He was under surveillence for anti-american writings. I hope these agents know the people on this website are not anti-american. We are anti-germanic death cult that has hijacked the american gov’t. That’s just for the record. So you idiots can stop all the snooping on us right now. The only anti-american writings come from your bosses. add that to my dossier you devils
November 6th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Their are things that don’t ad up, this is what confuses me:
Why was the killer pronounced dead, than declared alive, and lily to recover?
Why did no one stop him before he killed and wounded so many?
If the woman who stopped the shooter was no longer a member of the military, was she a civilian, and if so why was she involved?
And why was the president so quick to rush over the topic when he spoke of it.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Do you really think I,The Lord, don’t know what’s really going on behind closed doors? Are you foolish enough to believe that this whole scenario isn’t Mine? I have made a new covenant with mankind which can only be fulfilled by the death of “some” of My “innocents”. Do not be afraid of the “vermin”…they will be extinguished in My good time. But first YOU must be “proven”. I need to know if all that you have been saying is from you heart…and I already know…now it’s time for you to know.
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November 7th, 2009 at 5:26 am
Can I have next weekend off please?.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
you would be suprised at the people they promote in the military, usually the crappy ones move up the ranks faster.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
“Graduated from Virginia Tech”… wow two major mass shootings within a few years by a student and a former student of that school. Anyone know much about what programs are being run out of V-Tech?
November 6th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Port Arthur there were 3 gunmen to, same pysch-ops plan.
Martin Bryant could not have killed so many so quickly, same situation was constantly pushed.
Same Media in play, now they will push for the guns. Same thing happened here in Australia.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/.....515668/pg1
There been many lies, but one fact about it, the weaponary Bryant used and how specific it was.
Not saying he was not guilty, but a feeble mind can be used, you just gotta no how to control that person.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
That is some weak s--- you’re spewing. Of course the Army would promote someone who didn’t want to be there, particularly someone they had paid an exorbitant amount of money to complete medical school and psychiatry training. Is that really too hard to comprehend?
November 6th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Obvioulsy the writer of this article did not spend 34 years in the military as I have. The Army can be a fickled thing when it chooses to be. The shooter wants a pay raise too…therefore he will accept all promotions that increase his base pay. Because he is a doctor, a muslim, and being readied for deployment he was a “shoo in” for a promotion…you know, the PC thing. He obvioulsly didn’t deny the promotion. He is a Jihadist…a lone Jihadist I assume but a Jihadist none the less. There are 1 Billion muslims…10% (100,000 million) are radical and willing suicide bombers…quite an army available to infiltrate all branches of service…if he was mentally ill then all 100,000 million sucide bombers are mentally ill. Rest assured, this will not be the last incident.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
This much I agree on- this whole thing stinks.
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November 6th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Here’s what really turns my crank. I mean no disrespect.
The media is so focussed on one guy and the events that transpired at Fort Hood. It’s been on 24-7 since it happened. Why? Because it happened on American Soil?
This one shooter has gotten more media attention than the thousands brave men and women who have died in this meaningless war combined.
It would be really refreshing if the mainstream media devoted as much attention to the brave men and woman of all coalition forces who have died in this dreaded war.
Dan Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
“Brave men and women” – my typo
November 6th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
Listen, I used to read all of Alex Jones stuff all the time. While some of what he posts has the utmost credibility I find that his continuence to find a conspiracy in everything on the planet takes away from much of his credibility.
To put it simply, If we lived on a perfect planet without a single problem at all Alex Jones would still find something wrong and some conspiracy within it. So for that reason I hardly come here anymore or give anything on his web site any credance.
For those of you that want to believe there is a spook behind every tree and under every rock so be it. You people who live on the lunatic fringe will never believe anything other than the minority conspiricists theory anyways. So enjoy your cartoon life.
I think it is a shame Alex is so all over the place and can’t stick to what has some evidence of proof behind it like the Fed being a entity outside the Government and above the law because he could be a formidable foe to tyranny in this country but instead the main stream sees him for what he is a crackpot and don’t take him serious.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
Don’t have the name in front of me…but one of the female troops that was hit in the shooting is quoted by family when she called on her cel phone, and she said, “They shot me! They shot me!”
Excuse me? “They” ????????????? WTH?
November 7th, 2009 at 12:23 am
Hey Alex, I didnt get to hear your show today but Im with you on almost all of the topics you cover I am in the Army and remember the oath I took I am not a disinfo agent by any means and this is my first time to commit on your site but first of all this story is so wrong because if you know how the Army promotes their members it is based on a point system and their “promotion boards” are not connected directly to the unit the person is apart of, let alone he was a physiologist their is a very very large demand for them now with all of the problems that is going on from PTSD to suicide especially since after a Gen. son killed him self ( thats a different story, because the “Army did seem to care until that happened” anyways the DOD is not much dif. then any other “company”, I say that because anyone reading this knows that life is not fair and people will get promoted no matter of their job performance promotions come and go and sometimes people just in the right place at the right time and sometime its not who you know its who you blow and that… that is life on earth, sorry but thats the way it is. Now almost all of this story is so untrue not saying that their is more to this story then fox or cnn is reporting because there always is, I know that. I support you AJ in almost that you do and thats why I have to say your wrong this time military post and bases are not as secure as anyone who dosnt know better would think we dont carry weaponds, they are locked up. just like a back locks up their cash because they know there thieves every where even working for you let alone there is a ammo shortish even in the military so their is no unit in the army stock piling 5.56 rounds with there weapons. The Ammo goes overseas. every time I been with my unit to the range there has been a shortage on ammo keeping the commander from doing what he would like to do as far as training goes. there was a office shoting today in Fl its no diff. I going to bed now I done with this I just wanted to say what I did because it dosnt help the movement to tell such dumb things as this because those in the know will not jump on a ship full of s---
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November 7th, 2009 at 9:32 am
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November 7th, 2009 at 1:48 am
Major Nidal Malik Hasan is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:02 am
Camilla also met with Ontario provincial finance minister one day before shoot-out at Fort Hood.
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Big Doode Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 9:18 am
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November 7th, 2009 at 2:40 am
This guy decided to do his bit for the Jihad, the struggle Islam wages against non-muslims for world-wide domination. Islam is not just a religion, it’s a political system that has spread itself from its origins in the Arabian desert to large areas of the earth using many stategies. Winston Churchill compared Hitler’s Mein Kampf, his book on Nazi plans to set up a empire in Europe, with the Koran.
Where Islam is strong enough it uses violence and warfare; a large majority of struggles throughout the world involve Muslims waging war against non-muslims. Where it is numerically weaker as in the US it uses more subtle and deceptive strategies while it builds up its strength. This guy, by using violence long before Islam is strong enough in the US to take that path, has exposed the true intentions of the Islamists.
There are plenty of blogs that expose the Jihad being waged against against the West, something that the MSM will not cover. Take a look at Atlas Shrugs.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:48 am
I read an anti-gun report saying only one handgun was fired. 12 + 31 = 43 targets hit with that one handgun? I doubt that. After the several reloads required most would have found cover or left the area.
The base commander says the gunman was killed. Base commanders are certainly able to tell when their target is killed or not killed. Otherwise how can they do their job which they train for constantly for their entire adult lives?
This story certainly does not add up and of course that is to be expected because everything in politics happens for a reason and is never what it appears to be.
Yes this is certainly political. It wreaks of politics every way you look at it.
Notice the cluster? Another shooting rampage in FL and now all the experts (those who drip under pressure) are once again arguing for additional gun control.
What do they do? Push a “BERSERKER” button from some underground facility when they want to pass another anti-gun law?
Seems that way.
November 7th, 2009 at 6:33 am
It is obvious this man had Mental Problems that went unchecked. He was probably like a little child backed in to a corner, then comes out fighting. Pure and simple this I am sure is not what he had Planned. It is very sad that at this day and age People still struggle to the point of Madness. I am sad with what is happening in America and abroad. I listen to rederick and people spouting off every day about Muslims and I try and reiterate that there is a difference between extremism and faithful Loving spiritualism. I am saddened by this and every action performed by Mad men in the World.
November 7th, 2009 at 7:39 am
this guy is a patsy just like tim mcveigh was and the so called 911 terroist.i take lots of gun training and how can one guy shoot 40 people with armed army commandoes all around,something reeks.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:48 am
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November 7th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Please remember. There are at least two sides to every event like this: 1) The Official Version, and 2) What actually happened and why. And BTW, it is “REEKS” not “reaks”. Alex, Alex, Alex; I know you can’t be everywhere, but for God’s sake: HAVE YOUR PEOPLE USE SPELL CHECK! Consider this: There are many individuals that may believe if you can’t get the spelling right, maybe you can’t get the RESEARCH right, either! Our credibility is on the line here!!!
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November 7th, 2009 at 10:32 am
“…one thing is for sure, Hasan will be the lone gunman, the other’s idenitified by eyewitnesses as shooters as well will be ignored and forgotten by the military and the media. And Hasan will be portrayed as a radical unstable Muslim idealist who somehow passed screening into the Army, into Army medical school and psychiatry residency, and the lone gunman here.”
Yes, it’s ALWAYS some lone nut! Let’s face it – only ONE MAN could take on a whole army base! I’ve seen enough Steven Seagal movies to know that ONE MAN IS ALL YOU NEED!
Personally, I’m waiting for the ‘chilling’ videotape to be discovered that will show Hasan just minutes before his rampage railing against US foreign policy, vaccines and Obamacare..
Solutions Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Yes wtf, that way all US citizens that diagree with our foreign – foreign policy being implemented in this country can be classified as terrorists.
Wallah, works like a charm and what a miraculous psyopp right in the nick of time!
November 7th, 2009 at 11:52 am
I sincerely think that one has to be a superman to be able to hit 43 trained soldiers by using two pistols, unless those 43 volunteered to get killed.
Dave Ped Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
it gets more unbelievable. one of the pistols wasn’t fired.
http://www2.wsls.com/sls/news/.....lly/60567/
So then one handgun hits 43 targets before the gunman is stopped? On a military base with trained military police?
There’s fishy and then there’s downright lies.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
There is something about this man’s face that for some reason, reminds me of Lee Harvey Oswald and Sir Han – call it that blank stare.
At minimum, it’s another Texas shooting in a highly protected area.
What should the citizenry do when these goons are patrolling our streets under Marshall Law?
The only soultion is for everyone to be armed to the hilt, so if a crazy shooter begins firing, they can be stopped quickly. One of him with an auto in a large public area could take out hundreds of citizens if the citizenry is not properly armed.
Jeese, it’s a crying shame we let these crazies into this country in the first place and then we give them guns too boot! Maybe we will get lucky and and the idiots running this country will hire them as body guards, so long as they have a psychiatrist’s note and are taking their pills.
Walker was on pills and look what he did with the Patriot Act, re-writing FISA, spying on everyone and encouraging the massive debt. It only takes one nut job at just the right/wrong place to screw thing over big time and now they call We The People terrorists because our leaders are disoriented.
What will we do when Obama pushes the button and yells out, “praise Allah, Allah is great,” or silently worships the death of our Constitution & Bill of Rights, as freedom in America turns belly up for the Holy sacrifice. When the dust settles, which God will Obama thank for spiritual guidance???!!!
Holy $hi# we are in SERIOUS trouble!!!
November 7th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Excuse me,I don’t know a lot about weapons or ballistics, but isn’t it possible for one bullet to wound more than one person, particularly if the shooter is on the same plane as the shootees and the range is close? That said, this whole incident still smells to high heaven.
November 7th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
“In Washington, a senior U.S. official said authorities at Fort Hood initially thought one of the victims who had been shot and killed was the shooter. The mistake resulted in a delay of several hours in identifying Hasan as the alleged assailant.”
The truth is probably something VERY different. For example:
‘Two US privates John Smith and John Henry had been seeing a military psychiatrist major Hasan at Fort Hood for a few weeks. Both privates said they were completely against the war of oppression in the middle east and would refuse to report for active duty if ordered to do so.
So the army put them both in therapy with Dr. Hasan. After more than five weeks of therapy both Christian privates were called to go to Afghanistan. Both privates warned they would not go and they would defend themselves with force if the army tried to force them to fight in a war they believed was morally wrong.
Yesterday fellow soldiers tried to surprise the two conscientious objectors but the privates were prepared and killed 12 soldiers who tried to force their way into the privates’ barracks at Fort Hood.
During the mêlée their psychiatrist major Hasan, tried to talk the two privates into surrendering but he was shot twice.
Finally both privates were overcome and killed. Their psychiatrist major Hasan is in hospital recovering.’
Officials of the military have spun the story to make it seem the privates’ doctor (who has a muslim sounding name) was the perpetrator so that the public does not understand just how much resistance there is to the middle east war in the military rank and file.
The whole official Fort Hood cover story is 98% a lie – just like 9/11. Do you trust the main stream media for the truth in a story like this? Heck, for any story?
I do not.
Support the troops. End the war in the middle east and bring the troops home.
Now.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:51 am
“IN EVERY WAY ORGANIZE NOW”
Ft. Hood
43 hits (at least) + one(1) shooter + two guns + open space + varied range +
extreme confusion and movement= 12 dead soldiers/31 wounded soldiers
reason for the shooting / UNKNOWN
probability as reality / low
New York City
41 rounds fired/19 hits + four(4) shooters(undercover cops) +
enclosed area(porch) + limited range(near point blank) =
1 dead innocent 23 year old legal male immigrant / Amadou Diallo
reason for shooting / COWARDICE x 4
probability as reality / documented fact
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Dave Ped Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
One gun was not fired according to police.
Believability / 2 = LIE
November 8th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
@AbuBakerSmith…unless you were there then you need to be quiet and stop calling people liars. People that were ACTUALLY there in different bldgs( cause if you didn’t know there are quite a few bldgs right in the immediate area)including a few of my family members are all saying there had to be more than one shooter. One who was in the bldg that does finance even said that as they were running out, because of the shots they heard from the other bldg, they realized there were shots being fired inside their bldg…1 person cannot shoot or doing anything else for that matter, physically, in 2 places at the same time.
Furthermore, just use a little bit of common sense. If the first responding officer was shot 4 times and the pregnant soldier was shot 4 times, another person shot twice(all from news reports) then thats already 10 bullets. I find it hard to believe that each of the other victims were shot only once and that some shared bullets which is what would have had to had happened unless he reloaded more than once. In which case you would have to believe that everyone just sat around in fear while they watched and waited for him to reload…get outta here.
call it what u want but I call it terrorism and a helluva cover up! But I don’t expect anything different from the Army..they’ve been doing it for years. Anyone thats been around the army long should already know that.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Two more points.
Its not a stretch at all that he was promoted to Major and it is surely not a stretch that he put in for the promotion. Promotion= more money..the rest has pretty much been answered by others who posted already.
Next point, the questions about the Presidents response to this are ridiculous. If he hadn’t responded at all then people would be bitchin and callin him anti american. He responds about something he has yet to fully unfold therefore not allowing him to be fully informed. So, he takes the best route possible and responds but it is not very detailed and ya’ll still talk trash. What would you have him do instead??? Make a big long speech and say stuff that is totally incorrect and possibly insensitive to the families of the victims?
I say all that to say this…Get a life and just admit that in your eyes the President is damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t.
Furthermore, he can make as many speeches as he wants the bottomline is that the truth is not going to come out. PERIOD POINT BLANK…and it wouldnt matter who the president was. The army is the army.