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Gates Open to Troop Increase in Afghanistan as More Civilians Die and Americans Oppose Occupation
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Little Alex in Wonderland
September 4, 2009
As the AP reports “dozens of civilians” killed in a U.S. airstrike overnight, Defense Secretary Robert Gates is shifting his position–toward that of the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley McChrystal–in being ‘open to increasing the number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan’ while reinforcing his support for continued U.S. occupation, adding: “I absolutely do not think it is time to get out of Afghanistan.”
Ann Scott Tyson reports at The Washington Post today:
Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates indicated Thursday that he is open to increasing the number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan, voicing a shift in his position as the administration ponders a military assessment expected to lead to a formal request for additional forces….
The number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan is already set to roughly double this year, to 68,000, including about 21,000 new troops that Obama ordered to deploy.
In recent months, Gates has warned repeatedly against deploying too many troops, saying the local population would reject them as an occupation force, much as Afghans opposed the 110,000 Soviet troops stationed in Afghanistan in the 1980s.
Now, however, it is widely anticipated that McChrystal will follow up his assessment soon with a request for several thousand more U.S. troops…
Officials said Gen. David H. Petraeus, the head of U.S. Central Command, has endorsed the assessment.
“I’ll tell you what made him”–Alexander the Great–”great,” Ret. C.I.A. senior analyst Ray McGovern told Scott Horton at AntiWar Radio last week. “He went into Afghanistan and guess what happened. All kinds of militants, insurgents–people who, for some strange reason didn’t like invaders coming into Afghanistan–they started widdling away at his armies… Alexander the Great looked up at those mountains and he looked at the casualties and he says, ‘This is probably a bad idea. I’m gonna change my mind.’ And he went back to Asia Minor.”
The rhetoric surrounding the “Af-Pak” War is about nothing more than juvenile “vengeance, not prevention”, as Justin Raimondo wrote a couple of days ago at AntiWar.com: “No one seems to know: or, more accurately, no one dares say what it’s really all about – revenge. It’s a war that has nothing to do with protecting America from another 9/11, and everything to do with institutionalizing an endless war of aggression the aim of which is slaughter for its own sake, as an end in itself.”
Mr. Raimondo continues, when that appeal to emotion falls flat, Chicken Little-esque claims of prevention are made to induce fear of ‘Pakistan being a safe haven for–or worse, falling to–al-Qa’ida’:
This evolving meme–that the Afghan occupation is all about saving Pakistan’s nukes from falling into Osama bin Laden’s hands–is based on fantasy, not reality. Sure, anything could happen, but Pakistan–a modern nation in many respects, with five times the population of Afghanistan and an enormous middle class that isn’t about to live in a feudalistic theocracy–is among the least likely to join OBL’s projected global caliphate….
Bin Laden and his cohorts don’t need any “safe havens” bigger than an apartment in Hamburg, Germany–or Florida–to plan the next 9/11. That’s the essential weakness of the U.S. position in the “war on terror,” a battle in which our very bigness and alleged advantages–the complexity and relative freedom of our modern civilization–work against us. The 9/11 hijackers integrated themselves seamlessly into our society and worked steadily and almost without detection toward their goal. Our position, in short, is necessarily defensive. The Bush administration tried to reverse this by adopting the old aphorism “the best defense is a good offense” as their strategic guiding principle, but it backfired badly–just as it will for the Obamaites, who are guilelessly pursuing the same generals-fighting-the-last-war game plan.
We have less to fear from Pakistan’s nukes–which couldn’t reach the U.S. anyway, in the highly unlikely event they fell into Islamist hands–than we do from a miniaturized nuke finding its way into the U.S. via our virtually open and defenseless ports, or from a “dirty bomb” being constructed right here in the U.S. We spend billions to fight a war to keep al-Qaeda from coming over the Afghan-Pakistani border, but our own border with Mexico is notoriously porous, and only the gods know how many al-Qaeda have made it into America alongside your gardener and the guy who made that nice retaining wall in your backyard.
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
The Corporate War Party’s efforts to exploit Obama-nia are beginning to fall flat. A CNN poll released on September 1 shows that 57% of Americans, including 75% of Democrats, currently oppose the U.S. occupation of Afghanistan:
“Fifty-seven percent of independents and nearly three-quarters of Democrats oppose the war. Seven in 10 Republicans support what the U.S. is doing in Afghanistan,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “Democrats mildly opposed the war in April while independents and Republicans favored it. But opposition has grown 18 points among Democrats and 10 points among independents.”…
President Barack Obama has called Afghanistan a “war of necessity” and has placed a great emphasis on defeating the Taliban and al Qaeda militants operating there and in Pakistan.
Despite Mr. Obama’s baseless assertion to insult 57% of the American population in the effort to continue his campaign of mass murder, Republican Rep. Chuck Hagel (R-NE)–and well-chronicled Iraq War opponent–wrote in a op-ed at The Washington Post that watching The Deer Hunter (1978) brought memories of Vietnam “tumbling back–the tragedy, the innocent victims, the waste”. Mr. Hagel directly relates the seemingly endless “tragedy” of theVietnam War–though, the “global architecture” around “today’s wars” are “quite different”–to the Afghan War:
The U.S. response, engaging in two wars, was a 20th-century reaction to 21st-century realities. These wars have cost more than 5,100 American lives; more than 35,000 have been wounded; a trillion dollars has been spent, with billions more departing our Treasury each month. We forgot all the lessons of Vietnam and the preceding history….
Accordingly, we cannot view U.S. involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan through a lens that sees only “winning” or “losing.” Iraq and Afghanistan are not America’s to win or lose. Win what? We can help them buy time or develop, but we cannot control their fates. There are too many cultural, ethnic and religious dynamics at play in these regions for any one nation to control. For example, the future of Afghanistan is linked directly to Pakistan and what happens in the mountains along their border….
Bogging down large armies in historically complex, dangerous areas ends in disaster. In Vietnam, we kept feeding more men, material and money into a corrupt Vietnamese government as our own leaders continued to deceive themselves and the American people….
The president and his national security team should listen to recordings of conversations that President Lyndon B. Johnson had with Sen. Richard Russell about Vietnam, especially those in which LBJ told Russell that we could not win in Vietnam but that he did not want to pull out and be the first American president to lose a war. Difficult decisions with historic consequences are coming soon for President Obama.
Long-time mainstream Beltway “Conservative” columnist at The Washington Post, George Will, wrote an op-ed September 1 titled, “Time to Get Out of Afghanistan“.
“Nation-building would be impossible even if we knew how, and even if Afghanistan were not the second-worst place to try,” Mr. Will wrote. “Afghanistan would need hundreds of thousands of coalition troops, perhaps for a decade or more. That is inconceivable.”
This week, James Dao at The New York Times reported of the troubles antiwar organizations have faced early on in the warmongering Obama Administration wrting that “they face a starkly changed political climate from just a year ago, when President George W. Bush provided a lightning rod for protests” as “many liberals continue to support Mr. Obama, or at least are hesitant about openly criticizing him”:
“People do not want to take on the administration,” said Jon Soltz, chairman of VoteVets.org. “Generating the kind of money that would be required to challenge the president’s policies just isn’t going to happen.”
Tom Andrews, national director for an antiwar coalition, Win Without War, said most liberals “want this guy to succeed.” But he said the antiwar movement would try to convince liberals that a prolonged war would undermine Mr. Obama’s domestic agenda. Afghanistan, he said, “could be a devastating albatross around the president’s neck.”
Despite the ‘hestitation to openly criticize’ Mr. Obama, antiwar groups are prepared to bomb the public eye with increased demonstrations this fall:
Anticipating a Pentagon request for more troops [in Afghanistan], antiwar leaders have engaged in a flurry of meetings to discuss a month of demonstrations, lobbying, teach-ins and memorials in October to publicize the casualty count, raise concerns about the cost of the war and pressure Congress to demand an exit strategy….
The October protest schedule is expected to include marches in Washington and elsewhere. But organizers acknowledge that it may be difficult to recruit large numbers of demonstrators. So groups like United for Peace and Justice are also planning smaller events in communities around the country, including teach-ins with veterans and families of deployed troops, lobbying sessions with members of Congress, film screenings and ad hoc memorials featuring the boots of deceased soldiers and Marines….
“In the next year, it will more and more become Obama’s war,” said Perry O’Brien, president of the New York chapter of Iraq Veterans Against the War. “He’ll be held responsible for the bloodshed.”
Constitutional lawyer Glenn Greenwald voiced the sad–yet, always true–Truth of the corporate State at Salon, yesterday:
The “mere” fact that a large majority of Americans oppose a war has little effect–none, actually–on whether the war will continue. Like so much of what happens in Washington, the National Security State and machinery of Endless War doesn’t need citizen support. It continues and strengthens itself without it. That’s because the most powerful factions in Washington–the permanent military and intelligence class, both public and private–would not permit an end to, or even a serious reduction of, America’s militarized character. It’s what they feed on. It’s the source of their wealth and power.
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September 4th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
first!!!!!!?
Call to Patriots Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Time to Dump Gates in the river with his criminal buddys !!! The world want an end to these sick fucks and their crimes against humanity !! The time is NOW !!
Olive Farmer Reply:
September 5th, 2009 at 4:27 am
Each and every citizen of the countries involved with this baby murdering is culpable.
You see the Sheeple?
Their hands drip with the blood of children.
At dinner, they dine on misery and the dead bodies of children.
Drink their blood.
This is what their pathetic apathy and stupid beliefs have drawn them into.
Accessory to murder.
That’s Enough of all that.
It’s Time to Start Again.
Ideas here:
http://olivefarmercrete.blogspot.com
chemtrailzombie Reply:
September 5th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
i just love it when people are not brainwashed,i can kind of see the mentality of brained washed people now and that leaves the people defending lies cause they just do not want to believe the truth, they need to realize how dumb they look when they are talking to someone that investigates this .Some even think chemtrail plums are real clouds after i show them .and it is very frustrating for me to tell very programed people . man the sky and us are getting sprayed!You know i think most of congress is brain washed like this..But the good news is people are starting to wake up out this big brother illuminati mind control propaganda tactics they use to give the people this kind of mentality of thinking.Use fear create the problem ,then say they will fix it and save you ,but little do the people know ,that the nwo criminals helped make the problems in the first place.
jeff Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
I guess they are expanding their opium operations. Slick operation indeed, Satans little helpers. The headline should read New Opium fields set to blossom, get ready inner city kids to be inundated in primo drugs. Satan laughing spreads his wings. Too bad these weak minded fools dont realize that Satan doesnt like them either, he just wants their perpetual misery after a little instant gratification.
September 4th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
1st
September 4th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
How much will it take before people stop signing up with the military?
terty Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
unfortunately there are too many poor people in the US promised of a better life or career by signing up. As long as the big difference of classes remain, theyll still enlist. OR, we can all live within our means, after all we dont really need big screen tvs, fancy cars, exaggerated homes that is not all used, plastic surgery, gadgets, alcohol, tobacco….
de obvious Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
sadly, it’s one of the few industries that has a constant need for employees.
Call to Patriots Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
PEOPLE ARE BRAINWASHED , They call them HEROs ? What a crazy nut job buncha freaks !
antinwo of bristol Reply:
September 6th, 2009 at 11:54 am
People need to sign up to the taliban.
September 4th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
weeeel doggy
September 4th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Having been invaded by Christian USA, after 6 years, Iraq experienced a 600% increase in birth defects, inadequate drinkable water, not enough electricity, and had much of its infra-structure blown to smithereens. As much as 1,820 tons of radioactive nuclear waste uranium was exploded into the 3 trillion dollar black hole of the Middle East probably the world’s worst man made ecological disaster. According to many studies, the U.S. inspired Iraq Nuclear contamination represents an estimated fourteen thousand Hiroshima’s and may continue killing for decades. Gulf War Veterans who have ingested the uranium may continue to die off over the next few decades from cancers and other diseases. Much of the Gulf war illnesses have been caused by waste uranium from bunker busters and other USA weaponry.
Also there remains an inexplicable difference between the hate monger (government) statistics and the Veteran’s Administration figures (May 2007) which show “total U.S. Military Gulf War Deaths since Gulf War One: 73,846; Deaths amongst Deployed: 17,847; Deaths amongst Non-Deployed Veterans: 55,999. Total “Undiagnosed Illness” (UDX) claims: 14,874. Total number of disability claims filed: 1,620,906. Disability Claims amongst Deployed: 407,911 Disability Claims amongst Non-Deployed Veterans: 1,212,995. Thirty six percent of combat veterans have filed for disability money. “The official U.S. government numbers, as of October 25, 2007, of deaths due to the War in Iraq is 3,838 with 28,171 reported wounded as of 2007”. This is not to omit the estimated one million Iraqi civilians killed with over 1 ½ million injuries caused by USA forces.
Adolph and Joseph would be very proud that Christian USA has accomplished the mission in Iraq.
Parker Reply:
September 6th, 2009 at 5:12 am
Very few of us Christians want anything to do with this. Cultural christians…yes…Genuine Christians, NO!
Dr. Philmore Entry Reply:
September 10th, 2009 at 7:08 am
I live with christians and most of em think if they don’t know something they can’t be held accountable for the sin. so they don’t want to hear any evidence of the 911 inside job.
September 4th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
There is no political solution
to our troubled evolution
have no faith in constitution
there is no bloody revolution
We are spirits in the material world
Our so-called leaders speak
with words they try to jail you
they subjugate the meek
but it’s the rhetoric of failure
We are spirits in the material world
Where does the answer lie?
Living from day to day
if it’s something we can’t buy
there must be another way
We are spirits in the material world
September 4th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
The Afghan anti-imperialist fighters are putting up one hell of a fight. Didn’t we learn our lesson in Vietnam?
September 4th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
more murder more murder more murder
blood n guts n dead babies pain pain pain
give me more give me more give me more
muahahahahahahahahahahaha
GATES…. YOUR MY BOY!!!
Sincerely,
SATAN
brainy smurf Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
I still say it’s amazing how the #1 military can’t defeat cavemen!It can only be an inside job b.s. military industrial complex magilacuttie jones situation.
Censored31 Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
…brain smurf…NWO Nazi’s are losing because the people are against them. You cannot win a war without the people. If you bombard them…the people will take revenge. It’s in the human nature.
Go and check out the pictures of the aftermath of the bombing in Kunduz yesterday:
http://censored31.skynetblogs.be
joel Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
why don’t they use the nsa \haarp\mk-ultra to it’s full potential.have a corrupting influence on their electronic comm links and direct their own fire on themselves[freindly fire].i’d save my ammo to maybe get some fresh meat.
michael Reply:
September 10th, 2009 at 11:13 am
see whatdoesitmean.com top story in red 9/10 re iran, israel and russia. yipes to the kingdom. michael
September 4th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
they are begging the 911truth movement to get with it—
the only weapon against escalation of middle east war
is 911truth
September 4th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.-Rev20.8
September 4th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS7GzSlFEn4
an inspirational video
September 4th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
the war can be won your all coward limp d icks who quote crap about ancients times when people threw rocks and sticks give up the drugs
Dr. Philmore Entry Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
potaroopatties. The war can be won and we don’t all have to don ak47’s and march on dc. all it takes is like you said, give up your favorite intoxicant’s, then, give up anything that can remotely be considered addictive that isn’t serving you, live clean, squeaky clean like an extremist, constantly expanding your boycott list, checking to make sure that your substitute products are not merely subsidiaries of the major corporations. We can do it!
September 4th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Who are you….check this video to find out….;
http://www.tpuc.org/node/558
September 4th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
this is a terrorist act.war crimes!
September 4th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
u all are buying guns to shoot citizens and police u should join the army if u have any balls and fight real enemy weaklings alex jones is always calling for revolution like a commie
snow3d Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Nice grammar.
Why don’t you go text someone, check your facebook and eat some hot pockets.
Prescott Steve Reply:
September 5th, 2009 at 7:20 am
Damn troll!
September 4th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Blah Blah Blah… Save yourself.
You might as well wait for the government to save you.
Keep quoting scripture pal.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
wife
September 4th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
AJ is a queer
Prescott Steve Reply:
September 5th, 2009 at 7:21 am
Dipshit allert!!!!
September 4th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
you like sucking pecker
September 4th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
ahh, they like that
September 4th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
block anything else
September 4th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
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September 4th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
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September 5th, 2009 at 12:32 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page
September 5th, 2009 at 2:28 am
You know what, the Afghans and Iraqis need not take this anymore! They need to take up arms and fight back. Is the US justified for killing people for the false belief that they are protecting national security?
YEAH YEAH Reply:
September 5th, 2009 at 4:47 am
right. i don’t agree with the supposed ‘islamic terrorist’ sentiment, but if you’re country is invaded by the US WAR-STEEL-THIEVE-PLUNDER-RAPE crew wouldn’t YOU fight back?
bastard evil thieving united states.
September 5th, 2009 at 2:32 am
If that was my people’s future is at stake, I would resist the US imperialism. This war will continue as long as Americans don’t care it is happening. The more people that die, their blood is on your hands! Thing is you cannot wash your hands of this!
"For What It's Worth" Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
It IS our future at stake..
September 5th, 2009 at 4:43 am
fucking american warmongers
September 5th, 2009 at 4:45 am
and by what factor does the US decide it’s ‘won’ the war? bullshit no one ever really wins they just like starting wars and fights a selling weapons american war-starting SCUM. bastard evil scum.
September 5th, 2009 at 7:02 am
Scum warpigs!
September 5th, 2009 at 7:05 am
Gates is a member of IMF, CFR and Bilderberger. TRAITOR!!!
September 5th, 2009 at 10:01 am
I find it absolutely amazing that the entire article says nothing about why the war is really going on in Afghanistan……Opium. Now, under the US, British, and German rule, Afghanistan is producing over 90% of the entire world’s heroin….Alqaida is supposedly funded by this Opium trade (but that is a lie, because they are really sponsered, and trained by the same people behind the US/UK, and German occupation), who’s main objective is not to make $, since they already make all the $ anyway, but rather to numb down the youth, who would normally be the one’s opposing the governments Tyranny, and blatant abuse of people’s god given rights, to truth, justice, and the pursuit of happiness. If they wanted to get rid of the opium, then all they would have to do is ariel spray it all with the specialized bacteria that the US developed in South America through the 80’s. This bacteria has been proven over, and over again, to kill 100% of the poppies, and render the soil unable to grow poppies for decades after. The reason why Obama increased troops recently, is because it is the harvest season for poppies, and his NWO cronies want their valuable crops protected. It would be good to see some accurate reporting on all this, but the only way you will ever get the whole picture is to read every article, and take little bits, and pieces, and put them all together to form the complete picture. By design, most people don’t have time to even read the news, let alone put the whole story together. I hope Info wars will do this service for the public, but so far, it seems to be dodging the opium issue. I read in the news the other day that the opium farmers are only making around $50 for 2.2 acres worth of poppies….farmers, just barely getting by, like usual. They are not to blame, and either are the Taliban, or Alqaida…..Try to imagine how much fertilizer is needed to grow all those poppies! Where is that all coming from?? Guess who….the oil companies, that also own the petro chemical companies…. How does all that fertilizer make it into the country? Because they let it! The military policy is to leave the farmers, and poppies alone, and not to ask questions….hmmm. Another great question, and this may be the biggest one…..How does all the Heroin get out of Afghanistan, and then get successfully shipped to, and smuggled into the US, and other countries, even though the Afghanistan is heavily occupied by the military, and the US borders are supposed to be heavily guarded? If the ‘enemy’ is really Al Qaida, or the Taliban, and their only source of income is Opium, then why not stop the farmers, cut the fertilizer supply from coming in, stop the Heroin from going out, and then spray the country with their specialized Bateria? Because the reason why the troops are there in the first place is to protect the crops, and make sure the opium trade is going according to the plan. Stop people from revolting by supplying strong, cheap, and readily available Heroin on every street corner, in every city, town, and province of the modern world…Nice work guys! The plan is working, and almost no one even has a clue about it.
Banksterwatch Reply:
September 6th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Well Truth Speaker
I give you a quote from Buddah
Believe nothing. No matter where you read it, or who said it, even if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.”
~ Buddha
What you say agrees with my own reason and common sense.
Unfortunately, most people are too busy struggling, in their daily lives, to have time to read anything but the bills and bank/credit card statements. This is the shit that the Satanic Banksters have put them in. Why don’t US citizens just stay at home or go fishing. Where is the sense in doing your heads in for the Banksters. You will lose whether you work or not.
God be with you
rmd Reply:
September 6th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
I have been trying to piece this together.
The media’s reasoning for being there is to protect us and the Afghani’s from the Taliban control, and Al Quaida.
We have to help rebuild their country
To get Karzai the ‘good guy’ elected.
Bush never really put too much effort there, so now Obama has to.
I’ve also read:
We have 75,000 contractors there.
Karzai is more corupt than the Taliban.
The Taliban was effectively dismantled shortly after 9/11 and Osama went to Pakistan.
The Taliban is now being paid by the army to not attack it’s bases.
Afghani’s are starting to resent our presence as it is feeling like an occupation.
There is no end game in site.
Terrorism training can occur anywhere in the world. So, dismantling Al Quaida, or the Taliban, doesn’t neccesarily make U.S. safer.
So, Why are we there?
Poppies
Oil pipeline(?)
Billions more to keep feeding the U.S.war machine
Afghanistan is the gateway to Eurasia, and whoever controls Afghanistan controls Eurasia.
Is that about it?
September 5th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
From March 2009…
Former Obama Advisor and CFR VP says 100,000+ Troops, 10+ more years needed in Afghanistan
http://www.theendrun.com/2009/.....ps-needed/
September 5th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Print some of these and hand them out. I handed them out outside the Clinton Presidential Library in Little Rock. I put them on windshields outside VFW’s and American Legion’s. Walk the streets and hand them out. It is concise and very effective for waking people up. Give them the red pill.
http://www.thegoodseed.com/Wha.....On%209.pdf
September 6th, 2009 at 12:19 am
truther—- I am sure you are sincere and mean well, but you are quoting verses that contradict each other. King James version was authored by King James who was a bastard. He needed to control his citizen and copied from Vienna Text and threw a lot out. The bible itself was plagiarized from ancient Egyptian Pagan Mystery Religion by so called Apostle Paul who was Insane and Adulterer.
Paul was learned and knew all Pagan religions belief of surrounding nations. He mixed most of the bible with Pagan belief and some Torah. You should do some research on Osiris/Dionysus, Oden, Zeus, Mithra, Krishna, Adonis, Aramis, Aztec etc. They all have similar Biography as that of Jesus, as presented to us by Saul of Tarsus (Paul).
There is not one verse in the bible where Jesus says, ‘I am God worship me’.
There is not one verse in the bible where he called his followers as ‘Christians’.
The word ‘Christians’ is not in the bible.
The word ‘Bible’ is not in the bible.
Do some research on Historical Jesus and not the mystical Jesus.
You are warning people from ‘Lake of Fire’ when you yourself are proceeding towards it, through your false belief and stubborn locked brain.
Christianity is a polytheistic man made religion and has nothing to do with God or his servant and Messiah Jesus.
Bible is not the Gospel of Jesus. It does not exist. The book that is most near to his gospel is the Gospel of Barnabas, it is available in the stores if you look for it.
Jesus is not the Savior. He was a Messenger and a teacher, to guide the rebellious Jews towards the Law.
His second entrance in the world will be specifically to Kill Ad-Dajjal (Anti-Christ/Master of Deception) and Gog and Magog. In other words He would be helping Muslims to defeat the non-Muslim Alliance that has waged un-just war on them through Lies and false charges.
As you have seen the onslaught of innocent Muslims all over the world. They never attacked USA or Britain or any other country. All the carnage was inside job wherever it happened.
But as for you, you should abandon Christianity (False Religion) and Revert to Islam, the only absolute Monotheistic Abrahamic Religion.
Parker Reply:
September 6th, 2009 at 5:20 am
Where do you nuts get all this crap? No, I mean it! What kinds of undocumented kook materials feed you all this brainkilling slop about the Bible? If you want to be a Muslim or some other religion, okay. BUT PLEASE use something factual to make your arguments…PLEASE!
September 6th, 2009 at 11:56 am
you said that once already so shut up.
September 6th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Check out the photo of those two guys! Look like losers to me. Certainly got no real brain power. Most assuredly “yes men.”
September 6th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
PS: How many of us loud mouths on this site are going to keep protesting and commenting when they start to put us in the torture camps?
I know I will, but based upon my past direct experience, almost every one of you will shut up and hide out. You know, like Saint Peter did, and he walked directly with Jesus.
September 7th, 2009 at 8:53 am
vist the 3rd woe web site. God Bless the world.
September 7th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Do any of you Jesus people know all 1100 commandments? That is something I would like to see.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
It was a mistake to put the disclaimer at the bottom of “Twenty Minutes With The President.” It should have been on top. You should repent of that little deception and correct it.
Thank you,
Lonnie Randall
September 9th, 2009 at 1:28 am
Time for the anti-war movement to get off their duffs…Where are they, now that Obama is in town?
September 9th, 2009 at 2:16 am
GOOD FOR CHARLIE SHEEN-BUT WHERE ARE ALL THESE OTHER HOLLYWOOD STARS?
"For What It's Worth" Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Good point Abaddon and where are all of the rich musicians who made their billions off of us too?
They are the part of the machine now with the possible exception of Neil Young…
September 9th, 2009 at 6:04 am
“You will not solicit anyone to make donations of any kind or your post will be deleted.” — infowars.com
So if i ask for donations for people who have no home, no food, no clothes and so on on your side – you will delete my post. That means that you balk people to help others that they dont die … it could be your fellow american …
infowars.com : “Dont ask for donations because the money you have is the money we want.” …
You forbid the people to ask for donations, people who need it – sometimes to ask on websites is the last hope for them too for help. Wow Alex and his sick crew .. wow .. people like you are the reason that the world is going down … with such extrem cold dumb actions …
you dont care about America … and forbidding donations proofs this really good .. you are like american maggots .. you are spritually dead …
But dont question your false leader Alexander Jones people .. dont do that .. he dont likes it … he HATES it … he cant live with that .. and Alexander Jones would not be what he is today without your stupidity …
LOL .. what a hypocrite … people who have no money .. infowars dont want them here …
And yes – what they do here is censoring .. and even more: denying people the chance for help … and if you tolerate that .. then you have already lost ….
READ the “comment rules” – there it stands .. if your brother or sister has no money one day and he / she askes here for help then her / his comment will be deleted … LOL .. what “brave americans” run infowars … cold and dark hypocrites run the SHOW here …
but hey .. the next “moneybomb” will come and then rich and goldhungry infowars will ask you for a donation that is right … then it is okay … infowars is a perverted SHOW of freaks …
if you follow such dumb and cold orders from your fucked up sect leader Jones .. then you are right .. then your country is going down …
Fools.
September 9th, 2009 at 6:32 am
New Jewish organ theft gang busted
http://www.presstv.com/detail......id=3510203
September 9th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Sorry off subject,Why is Butt Boy Obama at the schools trying to brainwash the next generation of voters?What a f-ing clown no wonder we have a clown competition with his face on it.He is a really slick piece of dung.Instead of following through on the promises he made in his last campaigne he is trying to get in the heads of the youth in this country.He has been of five vacations in eight months.People like him are the root of the problem lets vote this scum out of office.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:13 am
Yes I thought so to, the great AJ turns into a farce, well actually he already was, with his great mate mr sheen. An ex junkie, ex prisoner, ok not so important, but on the payroll of corrupt lying cheating, fake Hollywood!!!!. And then one joker talking to the other???
Look on the cap he is wearing(blue one), looks like an eye?? common people wake up!!!
I already cancelled my subscription of the great AJ.
I do not need this shit.
Cool now Im Me again: I am!!
And Im happy again, no more jokers or fearmongering!!!!
September 10th, 2009 at 7:26 am
…Fuck america…There I said it…
September 10th, 2009 at 8:49 am
All this bullshit will STOP once a Draft is re-instituted in America to supply bodies for these Wars!
All the colleges of young men / women need to be in fear of being forced to die in a far away land, before the anti-war protests will “kick” into high gear in America!
Everyone will begin to grow balls, after the body counts come back from the drafted dead! Hundreds per week, thousands per month. All dead for a population that wants us OUT of their country to begin with!
Vietnam – 10 years of killing – no lessons learned – based on FAKE objectives, nothing to “Win!”
Iraq – 7 years of killing – no lessons learned – based on FAKE objectives, nothing to “Win!”
Afghanistan – 7 years of killing – no lessons learned – based on FAKE objectives, nothing to “Win!”
Create a fight with Iran – BASED ON FAKE OBJECTIVES.
Create a fight with N. Korea – BASED ON FAKE OBJECTIVES.
Gates is a carry-over from Bush and the philosophy is a standard from the Vietnam era. “Kill the invisible enemy, no matter what the costs in civilian lives.” “Build more weapons, tax the public more, start more conflicts, create more fear in the Public’s life…..just like the Vietnam War!
September 10th, 2009 at 9:22 am
I keyed a car with a us army sticker on it yesterday.
afghan shit hound Reply:
September 10th, 2009 at 10:41 am
good on you, keep doing it!
September 10th, 2009 at 9:50 am
FINALLY!!!!
an article that comments are actually open on..
WHAT ON EARTH is going on?!!!!!
So.. like all Alex is going to feature on his page
is charlie sheen crap??
What about actual news???
And why are all the comments closed??!!!!
Someone answer me, please.
September 10th, 2009 at 10:41 am
the mainstream have blocked comments, they want to silence us. disclaimer, anyone who disagrees with me and starts slagging alex gets twated.
September 10th, 2009 at 11:05 am
The US govt. can’t begin to understand the mindset of the Afgani People. Their lives sucked yesterday, they suck today and they know in their hearts that their lives wil continue to suck tomorrow. Any day that their children have something to eat and no one actually tries to kill them is a pretty good day in their book. The only hope that they have for the future is the vision of Paradise that their Quran tells them that they will receive should they happen to die in combat fighting against the enemies of their faith.
The Viet Cong knew that they had nothing to look forward to either as long as the puppet govt. installed by the US remained in power. As long as they could see a stock of coffins waiting to receive their bodies should they fall in combat they would fight without fear unto death. Ever seen a wave assault by a bunch of pissed-off little people in black pajamas carrying AK-47s & RPGs? It ain’t pretty! No matter how many of them that you kill ……. more of them always seem to keep coming!
We lost in Vietnam and we will loose in Afganistan for the same reason. These people have no hope for tomorrow. What they expect to receive in the afterlife beats the hell of what they are subjected to here in this life.
Please don’t hate the young American men and women that are enlisting in the US Military. Ever since the US Govt. began facilitating the movement of American Jobs overseas to enrich Corporate America, the young American men and women growing up in Small-Town-USA have had as little of a future to look forward to as young Vietnamese or young Afganis. The US Military may not be their employeer of first choice; it may be the only chance for employment available to them.
I never thought that I would find myself saying this; but I am just glad that my poor father died before he could see what his beloved country has become. He was a true patriot with the medals to prove it. May God have mercy on us all and our poor country.
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September 10th, 2009 at 11:50 am
I disagree with you about losing in Vietnam…BTW were you attacked by the VC and did you get overrun? This page is full of HATE America first crowd! kids post on this site.Anti-military..they all hate the veteran and all things US..is our Gov.org Wrong ..Yes but hating your fellow country men is also wrong..as most of these comments are by the people of Islam..Jew haters worst than Hitler!
I hear all these posters call Americas Murderers but fail to point out the Murderers of other nations..Most of these punks will crap their shorts as soon as the first shot is fired! Most people like AJ and his stupid peace at any price cowards, will flee this nation and leave the fight against the NWO to the very people they hate Veterans!! for all you anti-military punks eat shit and die you cowards!
September 10th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
The Big Fool says to push on…There is more truth in an old folkie song than there is in years of USA administration. Stop occupying and killing innocent people. In this day and age there is no other need than profit from rich companies and individuals who have stocks in arms supplies, and all without conscience. Any regular logical American can see how wrong this is. But alas the government is only interested in itself. People are no longer an issue, $$$s are. It is appalling to sell your conscience for a buck.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
I guess you can post here
September 10th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Alex is showing his true colors now with the pro Joe Wilson article. I quess the comments aren’t going the way he expected. Joe Wilson mocks the American people everytime he’s on the floor.We will never forget YOU didn’t investigate September 11th Joe!
September 10th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyKR2-A0KPU
HOL FUX : YOUTUBE CENSORSHIP SEE THIS !!!
317 VIEWS -> 1300 RATINGS
SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG WITH THIS !!!!
WARNING !!!
September 10th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyKR2-A0KPU
HOL FUX : YOUTUBE CENSORSHIP SEE THIS !!!
317 VIEWS -> 1300 RATINGS
SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG WITH THIS !!!!
!!! WARNING !!!
September 10th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
the afganistan and iraq wars are all about pipe lines to get the oil and gas out of other countries. cheney is on the board of the company go figure??
September 10th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Never leave Afghanistan until the murders from 9/11, aka Osama Bin laden and his followers are dead and his head is rotting on a stick. The Taliban and al Queda are nothing but murders, drug runners, enslavers of innocent women and children. They all need to be wiped out. And shouldwould have been already had Cheney/Bush not decided to fight a war for OIL in Iraq.
September 10th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Needs more Sheen.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:16 am
This site is the last place I thought they would turn off the comments section…silly me!