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Gates Talks of Rapid Troop Increase in Afghanistan
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ELISABETH BUMILLER
The New York Times
December 11, 2008
KANDAHAR, Afghanistan — Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates said here on Thursday that the Pentagon, which plans to send 20,000 additional troops to Afghanistan, was trying to get thousands of them into the country as soon as next spring, a sign of the seriousness of the threat by the Taliban.
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The soldiers were requested by Gen. David D. McKiernan, the top commander in Afghanistan. The first of them, about 3,500 to 4,000 troops from the Third Brigade of the 10th Mountain Division from Fort Drum, N.Y., are scheduled to arrive in Afghanistan next month.
Mr. Gates said he hoped to deploy an additional two combat brigades by the spring as part of an effort to combat growing violence and chaos in the country. Pentagon officials have said it would take 12 to 18 months to get all 20,000 troops to Afghanistan. The United States currently has some 34,000 troops in the country.
Both Mr. Gates and General McKiernan also said Thursday that there would be a “sustained commitment” of American troops in Afghanistan for the next three or four years, although they declined to put a number on that commitment.
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December 11th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
see we are getting the troops out of iraq. man this is a mess
http://www.aniboom.com/video/2.....ound-bomb/
December 11th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
I dont think it matters how many troops they put in. The Soviets had around double at any one time compared to NATO (between 80-100k troops & over 600,000 served between 1979-88) and they still could not control territory for very long, despite inflicting huge casualties on the Mujahideen and of course Afghan civilians. Weapons, recruits and finance are not a problem for the Taliban and other resistance groups. The Zios should pull out now, no imperialist has ever or will ever control Afghanistan.
December 11th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
i don’t even know what to say anymore. the american people are no longer in denial about anything except maybe the very very young and the very very old and people who still have a job. today 12-11-08 i saw two large military type vehicles hauling unknown equipment. i live on the west coast. its not the first time i’ve seen this but will this become the norm.
December 11th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Now theres some CHANGE you can believe in.
Would you like fries with that?
Would you like an F-18 with that ?
December 11th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Gates go to hell.
December 11th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Merry fuckin’ Christmas?
December 11th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Troops, I suggest you go AWOL. Seems they might be getting you away from the home front for a reason…
Strand you in the Middle East and cut off your supply lines (or allow them to be cut off by the “enemy”), leaving the “homeland” defended only by the untrained and easily disarmed citizen patriots…
December 11th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Gates looks, talks and acts like KGB. It’s strange how what is going on all around us in this country is very much like what was done in the former Soviet Union. My Belarussian wife tells me this is all very much like what has been done in her country and why her and her friends wanted out. At the rate things are going, life in Russia might be better than here, at least they have no illusions about being free and a number of other things which I won’t mention because they’re racist. Belarus means “White Russia”.
December 11th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Big News
Interesting.
DA Juan Guerra Controls Floor at Cheney Indictment Hearing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=channel
December 11th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
Just watched a movie entitled “home of the brave” and it was heart wrenching. I say, before these neocon warmongers like Gates, Bush, Cheney, (soon to be Obama) and the others go off and sacrifice our boys to a war without end……………………. force them to watch this movie along with others. Better yet, make them volunteer their own loved ones first and then see how anxious they are to be involved in this senseless occuoation. Maybe if they put one of their own on the front lines ………they’ll think twice about going off to another neeedless war where the majority of the people don’t want us there anyway. As I write this comment, just read where another bomber kills 55 people in baghdad. This needs to stop NOW! Get our boys the hell out of there. I have the upmost respect for our soldiers. I have ZERO respect for the ones that sent them over there.
December 11th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
The military industrial complex must maintain its profits.
The Iraq war is growing ever more unpopular. But the fighting must go on. The arms manufacturers wield far too much political influence for peace to be tolerated.
Lucrative industries fund the political process.
Make no mistake: those that fund the politicians, own the politicians. Arms manufacturing is a multi-billion dollar industry. Is it really any wonder that your politicians are war-mongers?
Criminals run your society and all you have to do to dissolve their power is to stop using their money. The money is the control mechanism that keeps all of us economically enslaved. When we stop using the currency that they supply to us, the Federal Reserve will dissolve and the politicians they employ will be out of a job.
Don’t fight the system:
Replace it
http://socialviability.com/
December 11th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Soon to be anointed, King, Obama will build new barracks in Afghanistan – to house an extra 20,000 troops – to police the CIA poppy crop.
The given reason for invading Afghanistan was the blatant lie that a handful of low-tech-terrorists, called Al Qaeda, had carried out the 9/11 attacks.
Even if Al Qaeda had the technology to turn-off the Nine-Trillion-Dollar United States Air Defence System – and the high-tec explosives needed to demolish the Twin Towers the total “Al Qaeda Army” at that time numbered around 3,000 highly religious nut jobs in small groups scattered around the globe….
http://sxolsout.110mb.com/amer.html Scroll down to Illegal Troop Deployment.
December 11th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
they’ll have to invade pakistan to protect the CIA opium road now.
December 11th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
I’m not sure how to put this..Screw Afghanistan, Screw Iraq, Screw Iran, Screw Israel; let them all work it out amongst themselves; it is time to take care of our home; to take care of our own.
Let Bush and all those Traitors with him go fight in Afghanistan if it is so important to them. In fact I resent that Yankee Bastard in my state so let him and all those with him go move in with their Arab kissing cousins.
Geez, am I going to have to fight my own people? Are we going to be forced to face off with our fellow countrymen for these bastards? What the hell is wrong with our Generals? and what’s with our using these KGB types like Gates?
Well, let’s not lose track of the heads of this snake and where is Chaney anyway?
December 11th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
CUT OUR LOSSES AND RUN. START OVER. RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT!
December 12th, 2008 at 12:24 am
Didn’t they just mention/station about 20,000 troops in the US for “emergencies”? Well there are your troops Gates. Get your priorities straight… We have armed people here that are not fighting the US military.. and we can protect ourselves. We just have to narrow down who the enemy is and it is not an Arab here.
December 12th, 2008 at 12:29 am
Gates is a CFR member and supports their agenda.
An ex-CFR memebr’s opinion.
STEWART’S REPORT ON THE UNITED STATES MILITARY
http://www.freerepublic.com/fo.....6965/posts
December 12th, 2008 at 9:20 am
If i was in command i would scale down the iraq forces by at least half cause god knows they have plenty of blackwater goons and send about 75000 to afganistan and turn the place upside down! have speacial forces make clandestine manuvers into the pakistani border where the real terrorist camps are .AND DEMAND THAT THE CIA THAWE OUT OSAMA AND BURY HIM IN THE BUSH FAMILY PLOT ! CAUSE WE ALL KNOW THE BIN LADINS AND BUSHES ARE FAMILY !!LOL
December 12th, 2008 at 9:58 am
Meanwhile in the uk…..the war continues on the public http://news.sky.com/skynews/Ho....._Workplace
December 12th, 2008 at 9:59 am
why don’t presidents fight the war?! Why do they always send the poor?!
Serj Tankien
December 12th, 2008 at 10:57 am
Is it just me or does anyone else wonder why the Democrats are so obsessed with sending troops over to Afghanistan but they don’t want anything to do with Iraq? Interesting.
December 12th, 2008 at 11:14 am
Goes to show that not only is war perpetual, but Obama has no intention of ever getting us out of it.
The same party, two different aisles.
War is so obviously about money and not national threats at this point it’s pathetic.
We live in the nuclear age. The big wars are over. We just spend all of our time and money in crappy countries that only attack us because we oppress their markets and people.
Why are we still building tanks in an age of laser satellites and nuclear platforms?
Doesn’t make sense, does it?
I hope everyone likes war, because the United States is awesome at getting you there: http://mediacondom.com/?p=189
December 12th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Does anyone think this troop deployment is to set up for attacking Pakistan as well as the usual; feeding the psychopathic military industrial complex?
December 12th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Wow, I’m not a regular reader of the New York Times, but since I know they’re so rabidly left wing I’m pretty sure that they have been anti-war (not because they think the government is who perpretrated 9-11 but because a Republican was in the White House) just to spite Bush (who watched the first plane hit the towers, even though the only publicized footage came out the day after 911). Now it sounds like they’ve turned a new leaf bacause Lord Obama said he plans to stamp out terrorism, and hunt Osama’s ghost. The NYT doesn’t even try to hide their bias now because Obama is sooo dreamy.
December 12th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Well he can start by putting himself and bush on the front lines.
December 12th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
The military is simply being used as pawns in the game. Period. Are they slaves or solders? Are they pentagon peons and dept of defense serfs or Americans? SO well “end ” the war in Iraq only to shift more soldiers to afghanistan to kill, maime, and torture innocent afghanis instead of Iraqi’s. It doesn’t take a genius to uncover the scheme. The plan is perpetual warfare. They have created this shadowy enemy that largely exists in peoples’ minds. Are we actually supposed to believe it takes the most powerful military in the world 7 years to defeat a ragtag group like the taliban? ANd why are we fighting the taliban in the first place. Did the taliban fly planes into the World trade center? Of course not the CIA did. The U.S. military is an oppresive, occupying force and any group who dares challenge them are labeled “extremists groups”. The taliban “threat” is actually the taliban doing the best they can to defend their families from the aggressive U.S. government. Instead of withdrawing all troops from BOTH COUNTRIES, the shadow government decided to let Barack “send em to afghanistan” Obama take the presidency. THe public is brainwashed into being fixated with IRaq. Iraq isn’t the only country we need to leave. We need to leave the MIDDLE EAST altogether. BUt the foriegn base fiends and military intrusionists continue to bang the war drum. Its amazing how they created this psuedo enemy with no real target. WHen you read something about the “taliban” ask yourself how do we know its the taliban? Do they have uniforms that say TALIBAN across the front? Its alla mind game!
December 12th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
US military – “Imprisoning civilians, destroying countries, and teaching young men and women of all ages the fun of pointless violence. since the genocide of the NA Natives” Remember if you dont support the war on terror you are part of Al’queda or a domestic homegrown terrorist..
December 12th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Dont be betrayed by CIA asset Alex Judas Jones like the Gray family was
http://www.christianmediaresearch.com/jones.html
December 12th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
http://www.tona2009.com/
“If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or accept and retain any present, pension, office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, foreign power, or secret society, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them.”
#444. Ward J Adams This would be a legitimate “Patriot Act”.
chris s. | Seymour, TN
This is what is required to secure our sovereignty from the political or corporate elite who have been conspiring for decades to bring about a catastrophe that would destroy our great nation. If you value the rights you posses as a Free citizen of the US, then it is your patriotic duty to sign this amendment.
December 12th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
The war in Afghanistan is lost.
December 13th, 2008 at 1:40 am
Check out this site…
http://propagandawerks.blogspot.com
December 13th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America.” he told a fundraising crowd in the Pacific Northwest on Sunday. “Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”
Joe Biden
Working on what every president has faced in their first 6 months a president going back to JFK
http://posmedprod.webs.com/presidentialhistory.htm
December 14th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
Okay this shows us that the draft is on the way!! As more American soldiers have to die for their globalist lords and gods who are playing God. As they will be rejected by the Almighty God on the soon Judgment Day as being lucifers children and monsters who will be in the Great Lake of Fire and Brimstone with him!!
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