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GCHQ Confirms Violent Riots Staged By Chinese
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Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Thursday, March 27, 2008
Britain’s GCHQ spy agency has confirmed the fact that Chinese People’s Liberation Army agents posing as monks staged violent riots in Tibet in order to justify a brutal crackdown, but that the demonstrations have now escalated beyond Beijing’s control.
According to a report in today’s Epoch Times, "GCHQ analysts believe the decision was deliberately calculated by the Beijing leadership to provide an excuse to stamp out the simmering unrest in the region, which is already attracting unwelcome world attention in the run-up to the Olympic Games this summer."
Fearing that legitimate demonstrators would become more active in the months leading up to the Beijing Olympics, Chinese authorities planned to create a pretext to crush the movement by instigating violence that would sour global opinion towards the Tibetans.
According to the report, GCHQ’s geo-positioned satellites in space were able to obtain images proving that the Chinese had infiltrated agent provocateurs into Lhasa. PLA agents posing as monks were responsible for setting fire to buildings and killing non-ethnic Chinese citizens as well as police in an attempt to demonize the Dalai Lama and the Tibetan freedom movement.
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However, according to the report, "What the Beijing regime had not expected was how the riots would spread, not only across Tibet, but also to Sichuan, Quighai and Gansu provinces, turning a large area of western China into a battle zone."
Though the report seems to explain why images showed supposed Tibetans protesters inexplicably burning their own villages, it has to be cautioned that Epoch Times is a traditionally pro-Tibetan news outlet and there’s no doubt that propaganda is being used by both sides.
It’s probable that Chinese PLA agents instigated some of the violence but the fact that young Tibetans are engaging in violence completely of their own accord is largely accepted.
As the report points out, many of the Dalai Lama’s supporters are "young, unemployed and dispossessed and reject his philosophy of non-violence, believing the only hope for change is the radical action they are now carrying out"
On a personal note, having visited Tibet myself and experienced some less than cordial interactions with the Tibetan people, it has to be said that they are certainly not deserving of the angelic tag some quarters of the media lavish upon them – being tribal, aggressive and spiteful towards foreign visitors as well as hostile towards tourists from the Chinese mainland.
As we reported on Monday, former Chinese Communist Party official Ruan Ming was the first to accuse China of staging the violent riots in order to demonize Tibetans in the eyes of the international community, justify a brutal paramilitary police crackdown and force the Dalai Lama to resign.
"The demonstration on March 10 was meant to be peaceful. You can see from the pictures that the demonstration was all monks," he explained, adding that the CCP carefully introduced violent unrest in order to "deceive the world".
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March 27th, 2008 at 8:00 am
Doesn’t surprise me at all that China would do this sort of thing. The U.S. and Britain have been doing this in Iraq for years. Problem – Reaction – Solution until I am f---ing blue in the face! WAKE UP!
March 27th, 2008 at 8:27 am
When they poisoned my drinking water by putting a big black plastic water cistern in the flat upstairs and running a pipe down behind the fitted wardrobe to connect it to my water main and filled it with bio-warfare germs and carcinogenic chemicals, I nearly died.
My skin became covered in a smelly greasy film.
Big red sores erupted on the side of head that oozed smelly gunge. Under both years erupted with big red oozing sores.
Two small tumours appeared on my dick where I was pissing the stuff out.
My Adam’s apple went bigger on one side than another.
My skull changed shape and the muscle wasted off my right cheek.
My elbows went pointy and sore.
And they want to cover it up by falsely accusing me of mental illness.
Price Charles even commented that ?Anyone that thinks they had their drinking water supply poisoned should be forced to take chlorpromazine? in his Hickey column in the Daily Express.
Chlorpromazine is an old fashioned psychiatric drug with terrible side-effects.
And I don’t get support against a criminal regime that tried to murder me here.
Oh No you get your name paraded for being a Troll and JusticeUK joins up.
Yes the minute she came across injustice committed by the Tony Blair and Prince Charles she is so concerned about she goes off to compound the injustice and is part of a denial that the crimes took place at all.
I don’t think they are government agents but I do think they suck big time in the stupid troll group.
I think they are jealous that I am a person that knew enough for them to try and eliminate.
What do they know except for what they read on the internet? Nothing.
Find out what it is all about at:-
http://social.infowars.com/user_home.php
March 27th, 2008 at 8:31 am
Wherever there’s an assembly of people, there’s an agent provocateur. This has been true for centuries.
March 27th, 2008 at 8:40 am
Pschologists were used by stalin and it follows that snce this country, the formerly free America was and is secretely in bed with the “still” soviets, that this country and the UK are employing them as well to silence and disappear dissenters, I believe that psychologists have become an extension of the rat, antiAmerican CIA, they use the same techniques to invite compliance and subsequently inspire their victims actions, such as all the various school shootings!
Remember that FEMA is also using that ruse in their indoctrination of pastors to demonize gun owners and anyone whop would resist the police state.
If we were atually being attack by terrorists or an invading army as we now are! what purpose and good would it do to mass incarcerate the populace, wouldn’t our nations defense be better served if the armed citizenry were out fighting these “terrorists” alongside law enforcement and the military? No sir, the only terrorists I am aware of are those who don black masks and terrorize innocents under the color of law and the cover of justice!
So, what list are the pschologists to be placed boy and girls?
March 27th, 2008 at 9:05 am
FEMA’s paying attention to this. If they do this to the rEVOLution, likely they will achieve the same result. America is Mad as Hell, and not everyone in the Freedom movement is wedded to the idea of non-violence, though most prefer it. The right spark could still set it all off.
March 27th, 2008 at 9:26 am
Gun control history
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated
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China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million ‘educated’ people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
March 27th, 2008 at 9:51 am
Please don’t let this violence by the Chinese to be forgotten about. Check out http://www.freetibet.net for frequent news and continue the Boycott of Beijing 2008!
Free Tibet! (po rangzen!)
March 27th, 2008 at 10:09 am
Epoch Times is Falungong Propaganda!
It is not a reliable news source.
Question1: Why would Chinese stage protests before the 2008 Olympic Torch Relay?
Question2: How would this benefit Britain’s GCHQ?
Think People Think!
March 27th, 2008 at 10:13 am
This doesn’t surprise me and shouldn’t surprise any one of you. This has a double implication in the fact that it A) allows the Chinese to avoid any embarrassing incidents at the Olympic games involving Tibetan protesters and B) Allows western governments to continue to use an aggressive Chinese foreign policy to justify the expansion of the king of all new world order ideas, the star wars project. One must understand that the 2nd stage of the cold war is now in full effect. It’s why China got the Olympic Games in he first place, so that the entire world would be watching as the complicit Chinese and Western Governments berated and openly destroyed Chinese world standing, in order to justify dragging its people kicking and screaming into the N.W.O. as the guy above me states, PROBLEM – REACTION – SOLUTION. The Project for the New American Century states in its own literature that first it will be the Russians, then the Chinese, then asteroids, and finally the threat of extra terrestrial invasion that will be used as pre-texts to the completion of the star wars project. The documents are THERE TO BE READ. they are in the PUBLIC DOMAIN. Theres is no excuse for denying the reality of these documents and their implications.
This progression has been and will be a reality for a long time to come. It’s known that the cold war had ’something’ to do with the space race but most casual observers have absolutely no idea that the cold war was instigated to allow the conditions to arise under which everything could be classified for reasons of national security. To this day, the same system is still in place fronted by amongst others the BBC, the Murdoch press and similar U.S Media co-operations. For example, We were told for years by the mainstream media that Star Wars was a joke, unachievable and a pie in the sky dream. Then this year out of no-where Bush announces that actually its been secretly going on for years and now they’re all ready for it to go ahead and nobody bats an eyelid. WAKE UP PEOPLE
If we as a people do not start shunning the mass media and researching FOR YOURSELVES the Bavarian Illuminati, the end of the 2nd world war and the continuation of Nazi ideology under western governments, then it will continue unhindered by popular opinion as it has since 1946. These are the subjects that we as a generation have been brought up to ridicule, not to research. We are not told, as we would be under any other circumstance, to look it up for ourselves, we are simply told “it’s nonsense now lets not talk about it any more.” Skull and Bones members, lying in coffins and masturbating whilst swearing alliegence to the devil and to fellow bones men has been FILMED, PROVEN and DEBUNKED. Bohemian Grove’s cremation of care, a pagan ‘mock’ human sacrifice voiced by Walter Cronkite and attended by the most powerful men and women in the world has been FILMED, PROVEN and DEBUNKED. It’s time to understand and accept the reality of these things and move on to trying to figure a way in which society can coherently exist without them. My main worry is that by the time the masses have realized the problem, they’ll be doing it from the inside of a Labour camp.
Lastly, it’s something that people don’t say enough but God f---ing Bless Alex Jones for have the balls and understanding to research into these matters and openly voice them. It IS a dangerous thing to do and countless journalists before him have gone missing, been paid off or simply been blackballed from journalism for attempting to uncover half of what he has. Look at Dan Akroyd, celebrated and touted as a Genius for years by hollywood, until the point that he turned his attention to UFOs and the illuminati, at which point his television programme was cancelled and he now finds it impossible to sell his projects. go to video.Google.com and type in ”Dan Akroyd on U.F.O’s” and watch what the guy himself, one of the most talented writers and comedians of our collective generation, says about his experience.
My personal interest started with my university study of early 20th century history, the Roman Empire and the formation of Christianity from the Babylonian religions so don’t make the mistake that I’ve simply listened to Alex Jones and blindly believed him. Neither can you, Alex Jones is a stepping stone through which you can begin your own research into this, blindly following and listening to him without the back up of your own researched ideas is no better than blindly listening to and following the BBC. I’m sure he would agree that If its just Alex Jones saying this then it can be dismissed as one crazy doing a lot of ranting, as it generally is. If however, people look into the validity of what his arguments and research the truth of the matter and its implications, then we can ALL stand as one with the correct information and demand reform from the standpoint of an educated, informed and aware populace. rather than the propaganda eating serfs we have pathetically and lazily allowed ourselves to become. This goes back to what should have been acheived in the 2nd world war but ultimately was not, due to Eisenhower, Churchill and Hitler all working for the same illuminati groups, (most notably the Freemasons) with the same objectives; Incite a war to make a s--- load of money, destroy the prevailing liberal poor society arising at the time and fund the consolidation of the N.W.O under the guises of NASA, the CIA, The U.N, and NATO. Just research Werner von Braun, along with the other avowed Nazi’s working on the Apollo space programmes. The name itself ‘Apollo’ means America’s Program for Orbital and Lunar Landing Operations. A s--- acronym you might think, until you also realize Apollo was a Greek symbol of order and control over nature, as well as being linked inextricably with Helios, the Greek sun God. With Apollo himself being god of Light, prophecy and Manly beauty. Are we supposed to believe that the DOCUMENTED Nazi, occult worshiping NASA scientists were unaware of this multi-layered view of a Greek God? and that this information hints at no implications of sun worship, paganism and the occult amongst this taxpayer funded organization? Understand this, when you give your taxes, you are directly giving money to Nazi scientists to continue the work they were allowed to do under Hitler.
All one has to do is scratch the surface of Western history to begin to understand the roles secret societies played in ancient, and therefore in modern culture. The simple fact is that if today, the planet was not governed by Wealthy, power hungry societies with secret knowledge of our ancestry and history, this would literally be the first time in history that this has happened. NEVER make the mistake of believing we are further down the path to true free civilization than we are and most importantly, use your brain. Allow both disclosure and denial to permeate your mind and have faith that you do, despite what you’ve been told, have the intelligence and capacity to intuitively identify the truth.
March 27th, 2008 at 10:32 am
DAMN!!! ANOTHER GOVERNMENT ”INSIDE JOB” !!! CHINA IS GETTING TO BE MORE LIKE THE U.S. EVERY DAY.
March 27th, 2008 at 10:46 am
#6 7.62mm , #9 LetIgnoranceDie
both of ya are telling it straight, absolutely !!
I’m gonna be at the top of page 2 now and dammit people…
it’s worth it to backtrack and read what those two had to say!!
March 27th, 2008 at 10:49 am
Paul, What is Taiwan, DPP bulls---? Screw the, EPOCH TIMES. Remember that interview with, Jim Rogers, where he said, “you can trust the China government”, well you can. I live in Taiwan, and spent six months on the mainland in 2007, and China is free and open. I’m from, Austin, Texas. You don’t understand China and the CCP at all. Why was the Dalai Lama getting a medal from Bush during the same week that CCP was have it’s 17th party congress in Beijing? To insult the great nation of China! Beijing Rocks! Read their constiitution, they follow it.
http://english.peopledaily.com.....ution.html
March 27th, 2008 at 10:53 am
http://english.peopledaily.com.....ution.html
March 27th, 2008 at 11:13 am
For the sake of the Olympics I think Tibet should chill out for a while. Athletes deserve some respect.
By the way this article is total heresy, how can you beleive what a spy agency says? There’s probably 15 different spy agencies in this forum just laughin at us.
Tibetans have some attention due to the Olympics so it’s the best time for them to make a stand. China doesn’t take their s--- & everyone knows it. China is being china and suppressing the media frenzy. Why the heck would China want to destabalize right now? They wouldn’t. This only benefits Tibetans & other opponents to the China regime. That’s my 2 cents, I really wouldn’t bet on it’s accuracy, how the hell can we tell whats up here? Free Tibet! …just not yet
March 27th, 2008 at 11:35 am
Boycott the entire Olympics, not just the opening ceremony. I don’t even own a TV so it’s easy to do for me. Sporting events are the least important thing we should be concerned with in the world.
I wonder if we had a math, physics or biology competition if the U.s. could even qualify? I bet not.
China is one massive prison camp and should be shunned like a rodent with the plague. China is Nazi Germany times 10 and will never change until the people over run their leaders and take their country back.
March 27th, 2008 at 11:38 am
http://911essentials.com is your portal to reality
March 27th, 2008 at 11:51 am
Atheletes should be the FIRST to want to boycott. But if you consider all the ‘Spokesmen’ deals from companies out there , most atheletes don’t have the backbone. It’s true to say they ARE NOT TO BE CONSIDERED HEROES!!! Heroes have backbone. Heroes are ready to throw years of training and experience away in order to stand for their values and ideas. Atheletes are not the first to confront this. Anyone who ever did years of college and university to try and prove the value of life or proof in a higher being get their whole carrer threatened if they don’t tow the line. Many have stood up for their beliefs to the detriment of their careers. They didn’t die. Most feel they grew stronger AS A PERSON , A HUMAN. As far as Governments , China is supporting SOOOO many of them now , most won’t dream of jeapordizing the ‘Economic Aid’ they’re receiving. It takes individuals with integritiy to do something. Not many left in the world though.
March 27th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
root.man peak oil is a lie
http://tinyurl.com/ymcxyg
So what?
“tribal, aggressive and spiteful towards foreign visitors as well as hostile towards tourists from the Chinese mainland.”
“Less than cordial”..
I bet they are. These folks are suffering genocide.
What have you done for them?
All the Tibetan people in Tibet are Dalia Lama supporters.
Another lame report from they dynamic crew at the all knowing Alex Jones site.
March 27th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Looks as if the Chinese gov’t also utilizes false flags ops to achieve their tyrannical goals…not just for the NWO boys…
March 27th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Dennis, if China is so open and free, what is the Great Firewall of China? Why the news censorship? Do some Falon Gong exercises in the park and you’ll find out how free and open China is.
March 27th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Dan says: For the sake of the Olypics I think that Tibet should chill out for a while. Athletes
deserve some respect.
Sorry Dan, but this is the most unintelligent statement I have ever heard, not to mention inconsiderate to human life. The Chinese government is responceable for exploiting, oppression and murdering its own people and the people of Tibet, also forcing their spiritual leader into exile. But “chill out” Tibet, DAN wants to see how far athletes can throw a javellin pole.
I agree with you Mark, boycott the entire Olypics and send a message to these tyrannical governments.
Jutice for all, or justice for no one.
March 27th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Ahmen Deryck! The fact that somebody would be stupid enough to suggest that someones skills at throwing a shotput, sprinting down a field, or jumping with, on, or over a stick, outweighs the importance of people being murdered, enslaved, “politically re-educated”, or many other unspeakable things, is completely out of line and UNFORGIVABLE! This is the exact same dumbass attitude the American people have taken towards our own professional sports, where people can name every baseball stat, but haven’t a clue what is in their own Constitution! I’m sorry, there was a day when I was an athelete as well, I swam in highschool and college, I competed on military teams at various sports, I had 21 semi professional boxing matches and ran 5 triathelons, and now in my older (I hope wiser and certainly more injured) age, I see all of it for the BULLs--- it really is. There are so many more important things that peoples attention should be turned to and is not. It really angers me to see people concentrate on such things when so many truly profoundly important and permanent issues are facing mankind. This is to say nothing as for the absolute corruption that goes into the Olympics and all of the outrageous amounts of money that is generated by this stupidity! It takes all of about 3minutes of research to learn of the evils of the “Olympic commitee” and the disgusting things that the money is spent on after everyone leaves the stands, it makes my skin crawl. There has been almost no mention of the cruelty and evil that has been done in preperation by the Chinese govt, to make this nightmare come to fruition, just to watch some people run around a track. Meanwhile, Tibet is burning and innocent (albeit niave) people are being enslaved and processed as every country thats ever been touched by China has. Its a perfect example of what happens when people with guns disagree with those who don’t have guns or is unwilling to use them. I’de also like to say… as for the protestors sign that says “Are you willing to be a bystander or take part?” the American people aren’t even willing to get involved to save themselves… what in the hell makes you think they will give two s---s about your country? I would love to help and have written a few letters in the past, but its a waste of time. I’m to busy trying to plan and save to give my own family a chance for survival when this country burns to the ground. I don’t think anyone should watch the Olympics, it is against and harms everything that it claims to stand for and is completly overrun with corruption and evil!
March 27th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
somebody should PATENT “staging anarchist riots as a false flag operation in order to beat the crap out of peaceful demonstrators”!
we could sue the US, Chinese, whoever and get f---in rich
they’re using this old shoe tactics again and again, seems to work with a bought and ignorant press.
March 27th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
As a Ron Paul supporter, one of the things I appreciate about his policy is NON-INTERVENTION!
Let China and Tibet work these things out!
Do you want to go to war with China also?
I thought war with Afghanistan and Iraq was enough!
Our economy is bad…we need to bring out troops home to protect our borders.
We are NOT the policemen of the World!
March 27th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
My brother just got back from Beijing 2 days ago.
He showed me CNN pics being cropped to distort the news, and the entire pics shown in China; so you can’t believe everything you hear. I’m not saying I know what is going on there, who the heck does?
As for the Olympics, I knew the coach of the Canadian sprint champ (female) 20 years ago. He told me that the Olympics is one big F**K Fest; they literally run out of condoms and everyone is rabidly trying on the other svelte sex objects on for sport… so yeah, that’s what the world is paying for.
I remember when I was on vacation in Budapest when some Olympic organizing committee was in town; they took up the most expensive hotel’s suites, who the heck wants to pay for those parasites?
March 27th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
one other true tidbit: my brother was in a mall in Beijing, and with help, he couldn’t find a single website that was blocked or censored by the Chinese govt.
On the other hand, maybe mall terminals in China are unblocked for propaganda purposes, but then wouldn’t the locals use them? Who knows, I just know, it’s hard to believe anything these days.
Except Alex Jones! Nobel Peace Prize for Alex! coming up!
March 27th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
Dude I hardly watch the olympics, but you sound like a total couch potato when you say that they don’t deserve respect. It’s foolish to suggest that a boycott of the olympics is the answer here. Our countries need to come together, not isolate one-another.
Tibet are obviously using the olympics as a platform which to me & obviously China’s regime is unacceptable.
The Tibetans DO need to chill the hell out. Chinese people are way more switched on than Americans, so who really has the worse government?
Chinese people are good people and their government abuses them by our standards but everybody’s government abuses them. America is about the worst offender – look at how they’ve lulled you all to sleep on your comfy sofas eating TV dinners watching survivor ffs.
You want to talk about human rights atrocities? How about your stupid class system in America – he with the most money is somehow worth more than the other people…. come on man China is all good.
March 27th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
it is now time to unite in a vision of peace all beings included as we put down the illusion of seperation and hold the banner of the unity of the heart change is only possible when we stop feeling seperate feel the spirit of oneness that permeates the entire universe stop splitting hairs and join us as we march brothers and sisters into future hand in hand with love(GOD) on our side nothing can stop us
March 27th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
I’ve been studying with lots of Chinese guys on my engineering course for the past 4 years. I ask them about China all the time because I’m so interested. The only bad thing they had to say of China was that it’s hard to get into University – you have to have really high marks to qualify, even for the crappy universities. The Chinese people are much smarter than us New Zealanders, but we are not that smart I must admit.
The Chinese guys on my course are the most respectful, humble & hardest-working of anyone there. They were all “fresh off the boat” but didn’t let that hold them back.
I honestly think the world should put the Olympics before a bunch of violent Tibetans. The level of ignorance in this thread & in this article is surprising. China stands to gain nothing by this uprising and this article suggests that they were behind it. BULLs---!
March 27th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
This GCHQ is a spy agency – you need to stop sourcing from them Paul, you really are doing nothing for the genuine nature of this site. The only 2 articles I’ve found to be full of s--- are the 2 that use the GCHQ as the source. Nice 1 dickhead
March 27th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Dan: did you ask your ‘buds’ from China about what it’s like to live under an oppressive communist dictatorship which routinely tramples the God-given rights of its own citizenry? How about the forced abortion policy vis-a-vis the limits placed on the number of children allowed per family? How about the killing of female babies which are deemed of lesser value than healthy male babies who grow up to farm the rice paddies and wield SKS’s and AK-47’s? Remember Tiannamen (sp.?) square? How about Mao and his red purges? If China is so rosy, then why are these friends of yours not ‘in country’ (i.e., China)?! You’re characterizing the Tibetans as “violent”? You are a fool, ace. You are obviously the product of a largely upside-down and backwards world..try considering what’s right and wrong and perhaps you’ll see the light, college boy. Go with God! Semper Fi, Chris
March 27th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
The reason my Chinese “buds” are here is because they couldn’t get into the schools in China – they don’t have good enough grades. China actually takes an interest in educating their youth, to a much higher level than my country anyway.
It’s too easy to jump on the “Free Tibet” band wagon here, you need to ask why would China “do this to them”?
Don’t forget, intervention by way of boycott, sanction or anything else does not hurt China in any way. This riot has not helped China. Why would China try to spark these riots?
I don’t claim to know all the facts but I would put money on the Tibetans being the aggressors in this case. They are the only ones with anything to gain from this.
High Plains Drifter: Why is it your concern that Tibetans are being mistreated anyway? How many Tibetans do you know? Are they good people? Have you even been to Tibet? How do you know Tibet would be any nicer than China if they were the larger power?
Stop letting your emotions get the better of you and use your head. Sport is healthy and should come before politics in most cases. Without things like sport when would the world ever come together & be nice to each other? It’s important man. I don’t play or watch sport by the way, I skate which I consider an art form rather than a sport.
If you are a U.S. citizen you should focus on your own government driving your people off a cliff, not the Chinese and their battle to maintain stability in their region. You & Tibet should chill out. Just because MCA from the Beasties wants to see a free Tibet doesn’t mean you have to support idiot Tibetan youths rioting. This is nothing like what’s happening in Burma. This is propoganda aimed at destabilizing the Asia region, probably backed by some worm US/UK spy faggot agency
March 27th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Dan: If you knew me (you don’t) you’d know that I’m all about control of my emotions. If it weren’t as I say, then I’d have long since gone off on a ’spree’ (Interpret that as you will). Let’s get down to cases: China murdered millions of its own citizens (that’s documented..unless you’d like to go down the same road as the holocaust deniers). Was that systematic practice of mass murder indicative of an EVIL nation or a GOOD nation? Please answer in a word, initially, and then qualify your response. Semper Fi, Chris
March 27th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
How did they murder their citizens?
Was it the current regime that did that?
I’m not an expert on Chinese history by a long shot.
March 27th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
I can’t answer with “Good” or “bad” by the way, that would make no sense, this isn’t a competition bro.
March 27th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Dan..you’re non-responsive. Read the history..familiarise yourself with the matter, and then get back to me. By the way, your last sentence in your previous post speaks volumes as to the extent of either, a. your intellectual dishonesty (I pray it’s not that), or b. your monunental ignorance and/or apathy. Have a great night..I hope your conscience allows you to sleep. C
March 27th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
I gotta say though if you beleive the report you are an idiot. Here’s the opening paragraph of the actual report that Paul has ripped off:
“LONDON—Britain’s GCHQ, the government communications agency that electronically monitors half the world from space, has confirmed the claim by the Dalai Lama that agents of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army, the PLA, posing as monks, triggered the riots that have left hundreds of Tibetans dead or injured.”
Do you actually believe that a spy agency is telling us the truth?
Epoch is all s---, it’s more likely to be a spy agency that instigated this, not the Chinese government.
March 27th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Dan: I have 2 ‘biological’ sisters..they’re the only ones I allow to refer to me as, “bro”. I’m not your brother..I doubt it’s likely I could even be your friend, in light of your views. C
March 27th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
High plains drifter it’s 6pm here, go back to sleep … oh yeah, you are already asleep
March 28th, 2008 at 12:28 am
Are there good articles on Tibets history with MI6 and CIA?
I somehow have trouble believing this, maybe the Uighur stuff is more real although I doubt that, too
http://ap.google.com/article/A.....QD8VLLGO00
Woman Confesses to China Plane Attack
23 hours ago
BEIJING (AP) — A 19-year-old woman has confessed to attempting to hijack and crash a Chinese passenger plane that had to be diverted earlier this month after suspicious liquid was found on board, the official Xinhua News Agency said Thursday.
March 28th, 2008 at 2:06 am
MI7 more like
March 28th, 2008 at 9:50 am
I’m not going to re-state the obvious here in some multi-volume dissertation. What is Tibet? Imagine Texas, except it’s four miles high. With Mount Everest between it and Mexico. It’s basically a vast, windy, dry, semi-desert, where you can’t grow much, and you can only survive by eating critters. For centuries, it has been inhabited by a variety of tribes, some Muslim, most Tibetan Buddhists. The Tibetan Buddhists don’t even agree on who the head Lama really is. For ordinary people, the place is only accessible via China. India didn’t even seriously try to claim it, because they couldn’t afford to cross the Himalayas to get to it.
Life was harsh there, and the small ruling monkhoods and whatnot still managed to grasp 3/4 of whatever wealth was available, but the serfs survived somehow. It was merely presumed to belong to China, because no one else could see much reason to go there. Even China ignored it. But for the last hundred years, western powers that had little real success invading (or holding) other parts of China have been sending in spies. The monks and peasants didn’t know what these fake western “anthropologists” and “journalists” were about of course. But deals were made. In 1950, China’s army went up the hill to establish control over the situation.
So the monks are rioting now, overturning many automobiles, and burning down buildings. Well, Chinese people have been moving in, so now, of the roughly 6 million people on the Tibetan Plateau, there are perhaps two million original Tibetans, two million Chinese newcomers, and one million western “anthropologists, etc.” Since China became a thermonuclear power, with regular piloted space missions, and so on, Tibet has become strategically significant to China. And remember, there are about 700 Chinese for every inhabitant of Tibet, including the newcomers and “anthropologists.” Of course, the ruling monks and tribal chiefs don’t like this. However, if they had bothered to not make deals with all those western “anthropologists,” they would have attracted far less attention from Beijing.
The monk riots are coordinated with the upcoming Chinese Olympic games, plus a vast, very well funded, covert western public relations psyop to influence the western perception of China. Why?
My guess is that the western gamesters are somewhat divided over how the military/deindustrial complex should proceed. There are basically two plans: Continue the new War against Islam, which is not going very well, or attack the Eastern Powers, Russia, China, India, et al. (The people who manufactured your computer.) (And who are not helping at all with the War against Islam.) Everybody wants the almighty oil, and the two (belligerent) paths to the oil are to seize the oil outright, or to push back the Eastern Powers, who are contending for it. So some western gamesters want to continue trying colonize the Islamic oil regions, as others wish to re-ignite the Cold War. The faction that is exploiting Tibet is the one that wants to re-ignite the Cold War.
If things seem to be going badly in the Islamic oil holding regions, we would wish to not even think about re-igniting the Cold War. Remember, the Russians never destroyed (the really potent part of) their nuclear arsenal. And China now has extremely advanced weapons. Such as stealth submarines that carry stealth cruise missiles. With India, they now hold perhaps 90% of the readily renewable productive systems that were once ours. (Japan is the only alternative, but it is uniquely vulnerable.)
But the global gamesters need some kind of global conflict to ensure their stranglehold on the US economy. So they have created this fake Tibetan psyop to launch their new Cold War.