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General: We may have to ignore Iraq deadline to halt al-Qaeda terror
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Deborah Haynes
Times Online
April 9, 2009
Times Online
April 9, 2009
The activities of al-Qaeda in two of Iraq’s most troubled cities could keep US combat troops engaged beyond the June 30 deadline for their withdrawal, the top US commander in the country has warned.
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He said that a joint assessment would be conducted with the Iraqi authorities in the coming weeks before a decision is made.
Combat troops are due to leave all Iraqi cities by the end of June. Any delay would be a potential setback for President Obama, who has pledged to withdraw all combat forces from Iraq by August 2010 as he switches his focus to Afghanistan.
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Who is now in charge of this Charlie Foxtrot?
How's My Driving Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
how about we get out of there and let Israel (London) pay for their own middle-east takeover.
Brittania Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 12:35 am
israelis only know how to shoot teenagers and abuse girls
DIY Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 12:56 am
More proof that Commander and Chief Obama doesn’t run anything!
DErAngeD Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 11:03 am
it goes back to what you want and what you get are 2 different things.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Ahhhh….Not done playing musical chairs now, are we ?
Hows about, GET OUT of THEIR COUNTRY….NOW !!!!
You have NO BUSINESS (apart from oil, poppy fields, human cargo) THERE.
lol
The Universe is ripping off the masks of lies, so one day soon, even a Homer Simpson will be awake.
9/11 was an inside job ~doh~
Hangman1 Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Conversely, keeping the troops in Iraq keeps them out of our hair here at home. The more troops they bring back, the more they up NorthComms Treasonous Troop Level for subduing We The People at home.
2bwise Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Hangman 1 “conversely” the “reason” that the nwo wants to leave both Iraq & Afghanistan is to untie their troops to invade Iran. Some time last year(I forget when) U.S tanks were being off-loaded from Ukrainian Cargo jets in Afghanistan. I’m sure you’re well aware that tanks are no good in a moutain covered country like Afghanistan but are very useful in flatland like Iran. I’ll bet 1 pork-chop against 2 doughnuts the nwo starts using phrases like “al-Qaeda in Iran”.
Vanguard Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
2bwise, that’s the plan alright… They are going to use those tanks on iran. Judgement and intuition says your right think that. The reason so… it to take out those missile sites, to open up the place for aircover and bombing runs. I know.
2bwise Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Vanguard, I bet Iran is beefing-up all its borders.
tahoe Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Iran came out on top with the fall of Iraq. Most Iraqis are aware of this especially since the Shia hold powerful positions inside og Iraq’s ‘new’ government. Bush played kissy kissy with the Supreme Leader of Iran ( which didnt get much airtime in the States ). In addition, here’s further developmets. “Obama” needs Iran for the Pak region.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/M.....0Ak03.html
Ummm. Yeah. Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Don’t be an idiot. Those could be your kids.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
I’ve been silenced.
and at times my name is altered. double 
.WITHOUT a doubt in my mind the message boards on this website have been infiltrated.
How's My Driving Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
yeah, we got trolls. right here in River City.
beal Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 11:08 am
How do you know it is government that removes coments or is censoring? I dont see any statements from this website making such claims on its webpage to inform people.
Ummm. Yeah. Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
yes. they are surprisingly silent on the point.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
it’s a real shame that the military has no real officers anymore, unable to think or properly wipe their asses without permission from higher ups. i gues anybody who wants to defends their god given rights are al-qaeda, not some poor villager tired of seen their family members get slaughter. this the reason i got out no real officers left but mini politicians with ranks who are willing to kill their own soldiers if they dare follow their councious instead of imoral orders.
insanity Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
What’s that mean? We started this war with a false flag operation that killed 3,000 of our own people! I’m sure there is a very real hatred that has manifested itself in the middle east that seeks to violently oppose our 100 year presence there, but again, that was a problem we ourselves created. Since the fall of the Ottoman Empire we have been playing Imperialist with the Anglos and reaping war, resentment, and a culture of murder and violence over there, and now here as well, and now Americans are sitting there saying we aren’t dealing with this in a logical manner!
Of course not, we can’t even admit how or who started all of this. Know thyself, know they enemy, a thousand battles fought will be a thousand battles won. We as the people know neither ourselves nor our “enemy.” An officer with balls and a real dedication to his country would realize the enemy sits in Washington, London, and banking houses across the US and Europe. USMC General Smedley “eats nails and pisses molten steal” Butler, my personal hero said this, not some hippy! We would be doing the exact same things as the Arabs if we were dealt the same cards! They are human beings the same as you or I, Islam has nothing to do with, not even a “perversion” of Islam. They are hacking heads off in Mexico, Columbia, and Guatemala – and they are Catholics! What they do have in common with the Arabs is a history of ceaseless exploitation, political manipulation by foreigners, and perpetual war.
If you really care about America, your principles, your fellow soldiers and Americans – you got to have the balls to dare to look where facts might compromise your perception of reality. It is not weakness to compromise your perception when you were WRONG! Its not weakness to study your enemy, his religion, his history, his culture, his speeches, and his thoughts and beliefs! Its not weakness to conclude that you are wrong about them and identify your real target.
ankh Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 12:52 am
http://www.arabwomanblues.blogspot.com/
Byron Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 4:07 am
Yes, I agree completely. The facts are the war was started by Israel, and the U.S. Military is being used as attack dogs to fight in wars that serve the interest of Israel. Lets really look at 911, and you find that while the term “inside job” is partially correct, no matter what part of it you examine, you find it was facilitated by dual-citizens of Israel and high level traitors without our government with loyalties to Israel. Mossad was clearly suspect in the bombing of the towers, as was their connection to Larry Silverstien and the head of the port authority. Silverstien himself was close personal friends to Benjamin Netanyahoo, who said “911 was very good for Israel.” Netanyahoo just so happened to be in London on the day of the 7/7 bombings and was reportedly warned not to ride a bus that day. Truth is stranger then fiction, and what you find at the end of the tunnel is that Zionist Jews are carrying out nearly all the terrorism, including the financial terrorism. that is why 9 out of 12 international banks involved in the looting of the planet right now are Jewish. These people are doing a number on the whole world, and Israel was established as their criminal base of operations outside US jurisdiction. I suggest you google 911 missing links and watch the free film, by far the BEST and most informative documentary on 911 and other Israeli crimes like the U.S.S. Liberty attack, which also shows a very disturbing trend amongst top US leaders to “cover up” for Israeli false flag terror, as they did in the case of the Liberty, which clearly points to one thing: United States is in fact a proxy state of Israel, it is working for Israel, our leaders make decisions in for the best interests of Israel, not our own country. The real truth that AJ seems to like to ignore.
jones Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
How reassuring that israhell’s leader’s last name is YAHOO.Brace yourself.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
oh wow !! what a surprise!! The americans are lying again
ARM-RESIST Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 3:51 am
Those scum aren’t real americans, don’t you dare categorize us with them.
kojak Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 9:51 am
What is a ‘real American’? One shouldn’t brush the negatives under the rug. Life involves reationships; relationships of all kinds. In order to even begin to try to make changes, one has to try to begin to look very closely at oneself no matter what one might see and how ‘painful’ it may be.
The US has been at war and in how many conflicts with World neighbors in just the last 50 years alone? When most of the rest of the World states that the US is ‘empirical’, ‘domineering’, ‘abusive’, ‘hypocritical’, ‘a tyrant’, etc…and the US does not listen and continues on and on with it’s behavior and arrogantly claims it is ‘right’…no matter the level of destruction in it’s path…..that is a sign.
I surely would not want to be in a personal relatinship with such a character; one that denies and covers all the terrible while simultaneously engaging in such acts. It takes one of integrity to take a deep look at oneself to recognize the wromgs and truly try to change. Not just change for a personal selfish gain, but changes because one really desires a change. Unfortunately, it did not matter how many people in other countries were having bombs & missiles coming into their homes and killing family members. It did not matter what chemicals were being developed to land inside the countrys of other humanbeings. It did not matter much who was being put in prisons and tortured or raped..even murdered.
Now though, now that much talk of FEMA camps at home, prison & torture at home, troops in the streets at home, bio-chem weapons at home……;now it matters?
Why did it not matter in past decades? Now the world, who has been saying and pleading to stop and leave us alone, go home, go away…ya think maybe now the citizens of the US can now relate? Now the US wants a change? Somehow that just doesn’t seem like a change whereas we are all in a world relationship and we should work together. It seems more like a situation where most in the US want a change so they wont have to suffer themselves.
Ummm. Yeah. Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Okay, Kojak: How’s about I take your money, poison your food, and put a gun to your head–then you can get busy “looking within yourself” for the solution.
kojak Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
The US has a routine. They approach a country and either cut a deal on promises, or they remove and install a leader to accomplish their goals. Look at history and now look at Pakistan.
Americans typically blame others for their past calamities and most of the current problems…all the while claiming freedoms and a democracy. Wow..y amay not have noticed but Americans arent really in charge of much and havent been for a long long time. Many were involved in flag waving and accumulating credit cards and demonizing others around the world that dont fit into a cookie-cutter World view.
Look at the realities…too many to list. America is NOT number one in the education system. America is NOT a leader in ethics, responsibilites or cultural mores. America is NOT the proverbial wealthiest country. But what typically happens is truths are covered and truth is an issue to be avoided. If America is a democract of the people, for the people and by the people..them every American citizen is responsible. If Americnas are not responsible for the current situation, then you have no democacy. WHich way is it?
April 9th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Iraqis are worthless cockroaches who are supporting Al-Qaeda. Only way to deal with the Terrorist who live in the cities of Mosul and Baquba is to carpet bomb the cities and clearing all the garbage out.
insanity Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
The only way to deal with Al – Qaeda is to admit that despite a trillion dollar army and 10 years we can not defeat them. Therefore everyone like Princess Zelda, and the millions of Americans still committed to this war and their hatred of Islam need to commit ritualistic suicide to redeem the honor they failed to find on battlefield. I will pay for the bullets and/or daggers.
Brittania Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 12:39 am
alqaeda in Iraq ? hahaha typical US wanker. enta kabd
April 9th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
The words lying mutherf*ckers immediately comes to mind!
April 9th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
I’ve always said the US’s greatest ally in the “War for Oil” was Al-Qaeda. When things look bleak, withdrawal imminent, Homeland Security legislation is on the rocks, Al-Qaeda comes in and saves the day. It got Bush reelected with Osama’s comments to the effect of “Oh? You are going to vote out Bush? What are you Americans? Chicken?”
And now back from the grave and the resounding “success” is Al Qaeda’s second (third) breath to keep us locked in permanently in Iraq. Logically, we’ve built the world’s largest embassy there in the Green Zone, many expensive, and very permanent military bases along the oil lines and fields, we aren’t going ANYWHERE!
Obama was as Alex Jones has repeated a million times, the bait and switch. This war is so transparently a fraud, manufactured and purposefully perpetuated that I’m surprised anyone still buys it! Let alone buys that Obama is really bringing “change.” He’s more like compounding our crisis and expanding Bush’s disastrous policy – but I guess that’s not a very catchy campaign slogan is it? Especially when John McCain was already using that one.
Beck smacker Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Anyone remember the passage in the Bible “When the Eagle departs, the Great Bear of the north shall desend”? This was referring to the middle east, right? Isn’t that exactly what will happen when we(the eagle) leave Iraq and they (the Russian Bear) will jump right in for that oil? Oh well……..just another prophesy come to pass. The next prophesy is a blast!
louis Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
Where is that in the bible?
the rock Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 11:01 am
i read the bible and don’t recall such a passage.
which bible? Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
!!!
El Qaeda Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
whatever happened to the fat jewish kid from orange county who threatened america with bloody streets if Bush was elected in 04? he was smart like the whip, senor.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
They just tacked on another $85 billion in war funding for 2009, surpassing the Bush war spending rate when adjusted for inflation. Oh but don’t worry, they say it’s just for diplomatic costs and the costs for cutting back the troops.
Obama the war monger.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
it it would of been great to see cynthia from the green party win as president , and have a different choice of people on there team that are for good the planet and just not for the crooks with all the money that run the show,the war mongers. also you had to wright in the names in the voting booth.not very fair !people need to be voting for these people that are the way better pick ,they need to know this!so the troops are pulled out !and there is a change a good change ,not a totaltolaryizm corrupt one world government depression sending people to war micro chipping every testing mad science like forcing these very unhealthy things on you.AND wile taking the healthy things away.war is a drain and kills innocent people in the cross fire .it is a tool for genocide.and its hard when all these countries that includes the usa that all have this vile greed for power through war and who has the biggest weapons the arms race.how to take this power of war away to make it like a big happy wood stock .feeding the poor that sounds good .but thats not any of these dictator like leaders plan.you see the western nwo version are fools thats there dream of taking control of every country .these countries will not part to let them control the idea like the chinese wanting to make a world currency ,beats a micro chip though.like this is the chinese version of the nwo. if all these leaders all the weapons all these military fighting were gone we would not miss them we would be a lot better off and without some control hungry vile governments around the world usa included testing there mad science on us mutating things !so you see if all the people helped the governments to turn to a greeny nature humane peace like hippies the world would be way better off and with more to spare around us ,not all this energy wasted on war!but you see these governments in power do not want people having a good time the leaders are like money grubbing frauds!is there any country with a caring leader ?
April 9th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
If the U.S. had not been in the middle east, there would never had been a 911. This fact irritates the Company Men who wish to protect the Rothchilds leases in the 9th Province of Iraq.. Off course they used Al Queda as “Patsy’s” and allowed them to accomplish their mission.
If the Iraqi’s were left alone they would dispatch Al Queda in short order. Instead The Cartel that runs America borrows money from China to pay our troops and personally profit from their Empire on loan.
If you voted for Obama because he said he would save us from this catastrophy, it’s time you seriously consider the idea that you may have been lied to. Everyone should call their Demopublican representative and demand the immediant withdrawl of all U.S. military forces from around the globe. We should keep a few good liberty ports the way every other country does and that’s about it.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
the above statement should be: If there had not been a 9/11, the U.S. would have never been in the middle east (iraq)
jason m Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 12:55 am
No, you and the Janitor are both right. I’m fresh from the page where someone was denouncing Ron Paul for not pushing the truth about 9/11. I don’t want to get into that, but I’ll say that even the most naive have to have a hard time arguing that there is any resentment in the world towards the US because they hate that we are “free”. Paul successfully argued, in my opinion, that its easy to find ill-will towards the US because we have been meddling in all the world’s business for so long. True, of course, that 9/11 happened in part to justify more war in the middle east, but also, if the US had not already been so involved, so far down the wrong path, 9/11 would not have been neccessary.
millions will che Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 3:53 am
Its the UK too – british empire u heard of that? it’s all UK+US based, these turds.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
As an Iraq War Veteran, the time to leave Iraq (and Afghanistan) is NOW!!!!! The true reason to halt the deadline for withdraw has nothing to do with Al-Qaeda. But, rather it has lot more to do with securing Iraq’s 115 billion barrels of oil for the major Petro companies like Shell, British Petroluem (BP), Exxonmobil, and Halliburton (in which it’s subsidiary KBR provides meals, laundry,
and other support services for the troops). With over 200 military installations (of which 58 are major ones) and the world’s largest U.S. embassy, the Pentagon and Wall Street have long vested interest to continue illegally occupying the country. Unfortnately, the Obama administration, is deceiving the American people on the issue of Iraq by reclassifying the combat troops in a “supporting” roles instead of a complete pull out. In the meantime, more soldiers are being sent back to Iraq on the fourth and fifth combat tours!!!!! Albert Einstein once said,”the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result.”
And to make matters worse, the Army and Marines “stop-loss” policy and with the bad economy here at home (”POVERTY DRAFT”), will ensure a steady stream of “cannon fodder” for this conflict.
In other words, they are caught between “a rock (or should I say IRAQ) and a hard place !!!” I’m glad I left the military when I did after 8 years of active duty service (4yrs in the Air Force/4yrs in
the Army) back in 2005 (served in Iraq in 2003).
thanks Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 12:06 am
thanks for serving our country. however, the cause is not justified. we need all military and police officials to wake up to the truth like you have. keep spreading the word, brother.
hahaha Reply:
April 11th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Thanks for serving our country? What the hell are you talking about?
HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 1:03 am
Grady…Don’t get me wrong bro’!!! I’ll never thank a fellow service member for their service. Never have!!! 3X 2different branches…Persian Gulf BuLLLshit(Radio archive Feb19@ 13:50hrs) but I respect that you, as myself, stood up to the fuckin’ plate!!! Some still have balls in the world!!! I wish you well…I know that’s not much Grady but, That’s all can say!!! In Mar03…too many dead babies is what my nephew informed me of!!! I can’t even be sarcastic at this point!!! Fuck the Dumb shit!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
April 9th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
There’s no money to be made in withdrawing. Wars are not about terrorists they’re about commerce. The terrorists that alledging committed 9-11 were a creation of the mil/industrial complex – to fight the Soviets in Afganistan. The argument that we need to fight them there ignores that fact that they were given legal entry into the U.S. when we were attacked. It’s not a plausible or rational approach to say what we are doing there will protect us. The U.S. has been in the Middle East long before 9-11 was perpetrated. How convenient that some forget. Did you forget Desert Shield and Desert Storm? I recall when the Marine barracks in Lebanon was attacked, I also recall how the Marine guards there were left with inadequate defenses or weapons to respond to such an attack. Our servicemembers are brave no doubt ( I was one), but the servicemembers bravery will not lead to any victory when that is not the real reason for being there or when they are lead by commanders suffering from stupidity. Stupid – doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
April 10th, 2009 at 12:18 am
the hierarchy is snakes at the top then pigs greasing the wheels then dogs for enforcement. it’s only about money for the pigs. the snakes are doing it for The Lord. can you guess who that is?
Ummm. Yeah. Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Nice allegory. You forgot to mention all the sheep at the base.
April 10th, 2009 at 1:19 am
Surprise, surprise. Something or someone led to every one of us waking up. How many millions, driven by a sense that war is bad, hated the Bush administration because of it and clung to Obama who would said he would end it? I understand the pull of wondering who the next American Idol will be and when that new electronic gadget is coming out is very distracting, but many of those millions have to notice that they’ve been lied to, right? Could it work against them? Am I too optomistic?
April 10th, 2009 at 4:07 am
Join the country wide protests tomorrow:
http://www.anewwayforward.org/.....y-list.php
April 10th, 2009 at 7:18 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page
Coolest Video! Check it out!
April 10th, 2009 at 10:04 am
when will the war end??!
by the way, does any one know if i can call in to the Alex Jones show, to speak with him?
beal Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Be prepared to be continually interrupted and have AJ dominate the subject matter and at the end of the call, be told, “thanks for the call”. Its funny actually. A high percenatge of callers get completely sidetracked, dont get allowed to speak their mind and 95% of the airtime is Alex talking.
TheGhost Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
ive noticed that too, its kind of annoying, but if youve ever listened to talk radio, you know that the people who usually call in dont have something really important to say or are just spouting personally opinions and not just evidence and things, so i can see why he’d talk over them..
Umm. Yeeeaaahh... Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
It’s called a ‘discussion’–and Alex is sometimes poor at those; understandably so, given the subject matter. Many of us have the same problem.
hahaha Reply:
April 11th, 2009 at 7:39 am
That’s very true beal. And it’s very fucking irritating Alex.
April 10th, 2009 at 11:25 am
http://www.rttv.ru/Top_News/20.....rgans.html
April 10th, 2009 at 11:44 am
BERLIN — A Dutch TV jury has found Osama bin Laden not guilty of the Sept. 11 attacks.
In the conclusion Wednesday night to the show “Devil’s Advocate” on Dutch public broadcaster Nederland 2, the jury of two men and three women, along with the studio audience, ruled there was no proof bin Laden was the mastermind behind the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon in 2001.
April 10th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
PLAYSTATION VIDEO GAME TRAILER MENTIONS FEMA,VACCINES,OUT BREAK OF A PANDEMIC,UNITED NATIONS,WORLD GOVERNEMNT !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO08Se6uM3g
April 10th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
you don’t give any credit to your website when you TROLL
April 10th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
READ MY LIPS NO MORE TROOPS AND WE WILL WITHDRAWL!!!! Sounds familiar.
April 11th, 2009 at 7:37 am
Support the troops.
god bless america.
April 11th, 2009 at 7:46 am
The only dirt I’ve ever seen on Alex is that he did steel the 9/11 prediction from Cooper and that’s 100% easily verified fact but Alex isn’t man enough to own up to it and be honest.
It’s also well known that gcn uses an ABC satelite for broadcasting and now ted anderson is advertising midas gold rip off on rush limpbags show! Nothing strange about that huh patriots?
April 12th, 2009 at 9:11 am
general, you are a pig who now works for fat rich greedy lazy worthless pigs
April 14th, 2009 at 2:00 am
The fucked up thing is that citizens like yourselves make up the army.