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Get Taxpayers to Pay for Your Clunker
Associated Press
April 2, 2009
Car shoppers may have a good reason to trade in their old jalopy for something that gets better gas mileage.
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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., have signaled support for some type of car scrappage program and lawmakers are trying to develop a compromise that could win approval in both chambers.
“It will jump-start the demand for new cars, helping our auto industries,” said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y. “And most importantly help families trade in expensive, low miles per gallon vehicles for cheaper fuel efficient vehicles.”
With General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC surviving on billions in government aid and few takers at car dealerships, lawmakers have been trying to develop incentives to help the auto industry and respond to environmental groups that want better fuel efficiency in the vehicle fleet.
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April 2nd, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Lets not forget that you have to buy a car that is from 2003 or newer. Legislation demanded that cars have boxes in them starting that year to track your car. This was for the long planned gas tax and another Big Brother initiative.
Steve-oh Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Yeah it’s funny they say it’s for cost savings, Consumer Reports did a study showing repairing an old car and bad gas mileage is still cheaper than a new car by $1000’s of dollars.
Go ahead America keep consuming, until the only thing left to consume is yourselves.
Dissident Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:10 pm
When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.
Cree Prophecy
mark Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:25 pm
SEMA.ORG IS fighting this along with other laws, like the ohio raids of car’s and car parts in buildings under zoneing and eye sore laws, they made many ppl crush old claasic cars, In many state’s fROM zoning and eye sore laws, IF THE CAR DONT RUN , JUDGES Y FORCESED YOU TO CRUSH IT OR $500 A DAY FINE
mark Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:35 pm
SEMA.ORG worked with the state’S so ppl could keep their inoperable vehicle’s MOST SATES HAVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP none running CAR’s, in ohio some counties did barn raids 3 years back, under zoning laws forced ppl to scrape thier old cars and car parts that was hid in barn’s, cause they was not zoned automotive, there fore could not have none running car’s or car parts
mark Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:42 pm
http://www.sema.org the government is trying to take cars away every day these ppl fight them they took down the first bill, this is the same bill more add ins
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:34 pm
I don’t want government vouchers or a new car.
My car runs just fine.
Can they give us the cash instead? I promise to stimulate the economy!!! I’ll go buy something else that is more useful to me.
Like….
Food and guns.
TEX Reply:
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Hell Just By a prostiute and you stimulate everything.We all gotta eat
hehheheheh
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Yeah…give us your dependable car that doesn’t have a locator chip installed…and we’ll give you a voucher for one that does!
I agree with Michael!
oldnamvet Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:34 pm
My 2002 granprix has a locater chip I guess,so when the s--- hits the fan,I will park in front of the nearest bank and get out on foot with my rifle and be a rambo and they will think my car is in front of a bank and I aint in,so they will s--- and think this guy is robbing the bank.You have to f--- with their minds in war ya know.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Maybe I should change my handle to “John Connor”
Leader of the human resistance against SkygovernmentNET.
Namrehs Reply:
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:36 am
Heh heh, truth be told it seems more and more that this time is upon us.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:44 pm
They have to pry the keys out of my cold dead hands before they take away my Trans Am!
Pelosi can shove it. They know nothing on how a vehicle works. I’ve driven my T/A from Los Angeles to Sacramento on one tank of fuel. If they did then this legislation wouldn’t exist.
+1 for MDefiant.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Well, the other side is it’s an “earmark” for your own money back. Yes, the right way is to remove the thievery in the first place, and the whole thing suits an agenda. But, if you’ve got an old car and plan on buying a new one anyway, it’s a pretty good deal. Now after that $5000, they still owe me 15 grand on the year….
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Yeah right,so they can track you,cause older cars didnt have the new technology in it,i dont think so
Politically Incorrect Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:58 pm
They will just make it mandatory to get a federal car inspection yearly and in the rules for your car to pass the federal inspection it will need the “box” installed.
Wait and see.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Charles Schumer……. now there’s someone we can trust.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Everytime stuff like this comes up, it only strengthens my urge to go buy an old 1970 340 Dodge Dart…
oldnamvet Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Hey man I had a old Corvair one time and it was a piece of s--- but I liked it.
John Henke Reply:
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:30 am
I LOVE my 1989 Dodge Aries! It’s not much of a pussy magnet I’ll admit, but I’m married and got that at home anyway.
I drive like an old man, ( since that’s just what I am ), and I get about 35 MPG. And Big Brother hasn’t a clue of where I’m going in it.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
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~JTCoyoté
John Henke Reply:
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:35 am
SPAM is a wonderful meat product made from the left overs of unknown animals. I love to fry it in an iron pan until it is brown on both sides. Place on toast with mustard and relish and, my God! That’s a good sandwich!
Now I’m hungry! Thanks a lot JT!
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:46 pm
I can drive my 2009 VW Jetta Sportwagen from Vancouver BC to San Francisco on less than a Full Tank of Diesel (14.5 US Gallons!)
Volks Wagen should BUY GM, Chrysler and Ford!
Today GERMANY! Tomorrow,the WORLD!
Miguel Grande Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Volkswagon was broke and on their last legs just recently. All the hedge funds went short (naked) expecting a blood bath. Porche started buying stock slow an steady, and then purchased VW. Porche kept buying the stock on the uptick and created a giant short squeeze slaughtering the hedge funds, there was this multi-billionaire who committed suicide because he lost billions. Chalk one up for the good guys.
Viva La Revolution!!
John Henke Reply:
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:36 am
Billionaires are pussies!
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:58 pm
This makes alot of non-sense. The government is complaining that they don’t have enough tax revenue from gas taxes because people are buying less gas because they are buying more fuel efficent cars. Now they are saying they want to offer a rebate with money they don’t have so that americans can turn in a vehicle they can’t afford to put gas into in order to get a more fuel efficent vehicle they again can’t afford. Seems these guys are pulling on the last straws.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
I heard about the exploitation of automotive MPU units back in 2003. My cousin owns a small garage and told me about it. 2003 was the first year this system started to show up on American built automobiles. They can track you, even shut down your vehicle by using it. This was this was
quietly mandated by the Bush administration. All vehicles sold in the US after 2007 had to be equipped with this system. I had a 2003 pickup that had this system, don’t have it anymore. I went all diesel with my vehicles last year and mechanical injection diesels to boot. Makes one wonder if the switch from mechanical to electronic injection on diesel engines was solely about emissions standards.
I have come to like diesel. I get better fuel mileage (29 MPG for my car, 20 for my 8ft ext cab pickup) more fuel options, and no intrusive electronic systems.
sandy Reply:
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:05 pm
01 diesel excursion for me…and it aint goin no where… plus i can use used oil with a conversion kit,,,,,, yea like a want a car payment and higher insurance…uh how bout NO
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
This is one step away from mandatory crushing of all vehicles
over a certain age. Politicians have been drooling over this
for years. The puppet-masters want to completely brainwash
younger Americans into thinking “It was always this way”.
Dependable old cars that operate for decades without any
computers or electronic tracking systems are a burr on the
ass of the New World Order. Same with people who live
independently of the gov’t, don’t use banks and always pay
in cash or barter.
NWO Nazis despise and fear anything they can’t completely
control. This is the dog biscuit they are holding out right before
they bring out the whip.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:06 pm
I thought we were already payin for the worlds biggest clunker called the US government…
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:26 pm
The End Is Near.
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:45 pm
“It will jump-start the demand for new cars, helping our auto industries,” said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y. “And most importantly help families trade in expensive, low miles per gallon vehicles for cheaper fuel efficient vehicles.”
F*** you Schumer. As if you know the total cost of gas/maintenance/insurance that each individual or family has with their current older vehicle, versus how much it would cost to buy and maintain a new car.
Politicians are prostitutes.
John Henke Reply:
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:40 am
Politicians are s--- heads!
Gasoline isn’t the only expense involved with a car.
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Check out the MPG off cars from the early to late 80’s, It would shock you.
My 84 Tercel got MPG in the high 40’s and I had a lead foot. My 86 Camry got the same. Heck, Escorts got 42 highway. Yes cars are more equipped, but c’mon, no improvement in mpg in 30 years??
Its obvious isn’t it? Its not about economy or climate change, of the preservation of the common worms natural habitat(haha). Its about structured control over us.
From volunteer groups, to the president, we are surrounded by the corrupt. Thats what drives them into these roles. Normals, don’t need this and assume people searching power are the same as them. WE ARE WAKING UP TO THIS IN A BIG WAY.
They all have the hands out, they all take orders and all end up really well off ($$) for stupid elected positions. They are arrogant phuks who thinks their better than you or me. ITS TIME CLEAR HOUSE AN KICK THEM ALL ALL ALL OUT!
Its their choice how its done.
They’ll take the hard way just like many Elitest scum have throughout history.
Fine, let them end up like El Duce, Der Furer, and the rest. History always finds them ending up the same way.
If any revolution would start, it would be from the Americans. We are the most alive people I have ever known throughout the world.
Why?
We have something to fight for, but we get comfortable and slack off and end up like we are now. We got lazy, but there is enough now that have woken up.
They have sped the process up and became greedy, and we are no longer in the slow boiling pot, but feeling the temp rise. We are waking up in a big way. Bad for them, but thats what greed gets. The slow process was hard, but now they are getting sloppy. They have lost control, and more people are aware of this, and look through the past years and see the evidence of what was always going on.
They are OUR SLAVES, bout time we treat them like it.
They work for US.
V
Get an old Time magazine from the 70’s and 80’s. Same promises, same BS. Its areal eye opener. We’ve been played.
Bedrock Conservative Barney Rubble Reply:
April 4th, 2009 at 10:36 am
You’re right, Not so silent. Search the internet for “200 mpg carburator” and see what
you find. The inventions that could save the American people a foutune, would cost
the Financial Elite billions. So inventors are either paid off, or delt with harshly.
Some flee to foreign countries for their own (and their family’s) safety.
April 2nd, 2009 at 11:14 pm
let’s have them scrap nancy pelosi’s plane with her in it for a more fuel efficient plane.
April 2nd, 2009 at 11:26 pm
is that the bat mobil model?
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:00 am
hey congress……get a clue…no one will buy a f---ing car if they are out of work and can’t afford the car note… and also are in fear of getting laid off from the one they may have……and all the while you washington jack asses are raping the tax payer to cover goldenman sachs and AIG corrupt greed driven ponzi scheme mess..
you guys caused this s--- from years of fraud and greed so reap the whirl wind ass whipes
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:59 am
What? You mean to tell me I sold my good car to move here and now the new one has a chip? Where is there info on this? Can it be removed? Should I instead go buy an old car instead?
April 3rd, 2009 at 9:48 am
Yep, sell all the new cars, (if we can) and get something diesel if possible, with mechanical injectors.
As stated above, you can run those on all kinds of fuel.
Second choise would be an old points system gas engine with a carb, and a manual transmission.
Park it nose down on a hill.
Bury a few sets of points and condensors, in case an EMP gets popped.
Mainly, we need to start saying no, and mean it, now.
Wake up those in deep slumber around you, now.
Raise some stink with your “representatives”, now.
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:29 pm
In texas they will give you 3000$ i heard for any running vehicle that is older than 1973 or so without a catalytic converter etc…