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Global treaty could throw file-sharers off Internet after ‘three strikes’
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Daniel Tencer
The Raw Story
November 5, 2009
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And the worst-case scenario could see popular Web sites like YouTube and Flickr shut down because of a provision in the treaty that would force them to monitor everything uploaded to the site for copyright violations.
Internet law professor Michael Geist published details of “leaked” portions of the discussions on ACTA on his blog Tuesday, as a new round of ACTA negotiations began in Seoul, South Korea. The US, along with all the countries of the European Union as well as Japan, Canada, Australia and a handful of other countries, are involved in the negotiations.
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November 5th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Shit just got real
Paul Revere Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
We will NOT stop. Even if they cut off the net.
Patriots will just be even MORE energized to bring them down!
The truth is OUT and downloaded from the net.
They may try, but they won’t stop the truth.
this will never work Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
This will never work. So you can just go to someone’s open wifi hotspot and download illegal crap and get them banned forever. Then you have proxies, encryption, etc, etc. oh and not to mention MILLIONS of people doing it. GOOD LUCK!!!
MAD DOG Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
WE CAN UPLOAD HOT SOFTWARE TO THEIR SERVES.
THEN THEY’LL HAVE TO BUST THE SOFTWARE DEALERS.
JB Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
This is total BS…
Do you have ANY idea how fast Internet companies would BURN if they fucked with the population?????
I worked for Comcast and people shoot into our building over TV!
You start kicking people offline….people will die, providers will burn.
Thats all there is to it. Dipshits that signed this “treaty” know not what they play with~
ImCrime Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Word… Paul, I mean do they really think the net is the only thing allowing this discontent to continue? If they cut it off, which IS possible, we will find other ways to communicate. Probably more effective, face-to-face, communication. It WILL back-fire. Elites haven’t got a clue, at all. Their only option is to give up because we will not.
Drekx Omega Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 10:30 am
UK City Councilman Demands US/UK Admit ET Presence…..See link:
http://www.thisishampshire.net.....ns/?ref=mr
MAD DOG Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU PEOPLE, BUT THERE’S SOFTWARE I GOT ON LINE, THAT HAD I NOT GOTTEN IT FREE, I WOULDNT HAVE IT.
THEY LOST NO MONEY ON ACCOUNT OF ME USING A FILE SHARING PROGRAM.
Citizen Val Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
I concur. Alex Jones shit for example. I couldn’t afford to buy it – no way.
I would say that this country is going to hell .. but … i’m pretty damn sure that we are WELL on our way.
Max Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:46 am
I concur also. Over 90% of the crap is crap and gets deleted anyways.
MAD DOG Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
YOU GOT IT.
w1nst0n Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 7:53 am
has anyone here ever BOUGHT photoshop?
software comes in 2 prices, outrageous and opensource
November 5th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Rothschild says prep them…??? http://shavemyyeti.com/
November 5th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Shit just got real
Apples Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Shit just got real
bob boblaw Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Shit just got real
VancouverSucks Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:19 am
Shit just got real
Max Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Shit just got real.
If anyone who is criminal it is Google not the users of the internet file sharing.
Subcommander ShitJustGot Real Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Shit just got rael
November 5th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Shit just got real.
nobody Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
nothing
nothing Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
nobody
VancouverSucks Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:20 am
no one
VancouverSucks Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:21 am
am i the only one who laughed super hard at all this repetition..haha…
Just saw Food Inc.
oh man. We are fukked!
Shanghai Spike Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Does the word “RETARD” mean something to you?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Guns guns guns. Pray pray pray. Love love love.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:51 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqMiigy92qU
markus Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Dude, my gut hurts now. Thanks!
markus Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Feces recently became authenticated – that’s classic.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:54 am
and how will they be able to identify the offenders? is there going to be some kind of access password requirment? internet2 anybody? how do they do it in china?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:55 am
…..i just got real
Shit just got......... Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:23 am
………real.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:55 am
shit is fo rillz n shit
November 5th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Watch Fall Of The Republic in full version and educate yourself online at: http://www.joemarquis.com/videos.htm
I took the time to build an area within my own business website where you can educate yourself by watching in Highest Quality full versions of Alex Jone’s and other’s DVD’s. A great place to start if your new or old and want to learn about the New World Order.
SAY NO TO TREASON Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Thanks…you do everyone a service by providing the information to the uneducated masses.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Shit just got real.
Subcommander ShitJustGot Real Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Shit just got real
November 5th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Shit just got real…redundant.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:58 am
this is all over the net. If this isn’t a hoax, people are really going to have to wake up…. They’re not trying to hide their agenda anymore.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:59 am
attention all patriots it is of the utmost importance that you research bill cooper….just do it
listen to what he is saying , begin thinking for yourself. i appreciate alex for waking me up all credit due to him but i felt a second, more meaningful awaking after researching bill and watching some of his lectures. he also showed me some of the things about alex that are a major negative to the patriot movement. bill also exposed 9/11 in june 2001 a month before alex, even tho alex is quoted in saying that he was the first to expose 9/11 and also some other lies that alex had been caught in……RESEARCH WILLIAM COOPER!!!!!!
November 5th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
INGSOC just got real.
Ha! Ha! suckers
Long live FATHER! Long live INGSOC!
Subcommander ShitJustGot Real Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
INGSOC just got real
November 5th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
very cool short film about gun rights and revolution and what the elite think of the people very cool tells it like it is film, must see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dqf88ZBnLM
November 5th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Forget mass murder…..want to get the slaves in an uproar…take away file sharing and video games!
soldier Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
damn right. When WOW is taken down, THER WILL BE WAR.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
So how do they think they can block people from accessing the internet? If they ever blocked me from the net I’d just steal WiFi from a neighbor and be back on the net in 2 seconds. None of their schemes and plans will work in the end and they’ll just have to accept that people will share files for as long as the internet exists.
soldier Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
I say round up the local converted national guard unit, seeze control of the nearest ISP then enjoy wow, facebook, etc.
When facist nazi amercian soldiers come to put a stop to it we shall have war.
We can play real Call of Duty 4 and the video game!
November 5th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Ya because all that great Cable Television is worth the extra 100 bucks a month…It will be a sad day if youtube has to be shut down. Ever since I canceled my cable I use Youtube and Hulu to watch the very few shows I like. How would they even regulate the internet? I am of confused here. How do you just stop people from sharing files? Isn’t that impossible?
rave669 Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
The native Americans thought you couldn’t own land, until the settlers showed them a little invention called a fence.
They can just turn off the internet at the tap by shutting down an ISP, shutdown hubs, they can block individual IP addresses, hell they can open and close ports too. Comcast got into serious trouble for shaping the traffic and limiting bandwith for bittorrent file transfers. It’s not impossible.
Sure, you can copy a CD and hand that copy to someone personally; You can xerox or scan pages from a book, put them on a thumb drive, etc… You can’t make file sharing completely disappear, but they can warp the networks in such ways as to make it very challenging. And, for the most part, if the solution to sharing files isn’t “point-and-click” not nearly as many people will be sharing files. People have been doing it for ages, but not many people have the patience to figure out usenet, telnet or newsgroups. The more complicated the method, the less people will do it, and I’m sure the powers that be are okay with that.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Time is running out. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ now, or get ready for the tribulation. This is not a drill, but truth. Hell on earth is about to be unleashed very shortly. We are the final generation, you must change your mind about Christ. He died on the Cross for your and my sins and paid the price with his blood. You must believe upon Christ as savior or will you face the seven years of wrath.
2012 Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
pound ur christian bullshit back up ur ass where it came from
Lets not fight we're on the same side Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:32 am
You are being very ugly – what do you have against christians?
November 5th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
There is no stopping piraters. If they get kicked off the internet they will find other ways to share, like before the rise of the internet. They will not win that fight….
Chris H. Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Yeah…Haven’t they heard of “bootleggers”? Pirates have been operating for hundreds of years. If they weren’t stopped before, there’s no stopping them now.
Glad I got all the music I can, and was able to download all of Alex Jones’ films, plus others. I’ve been preparing for that day to come for a long time.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Shit just got real.
They’re using this as an excuse to terminate our voices. I lol’d when I read, “..monitor everything uploaded to the site for copyright violations.” The internet is our only real source of having a human-to-human voice, and it is also our only way of finding out what the governments are doing. So they use this bullshit against us. Catch my drift?
Only you can prevent forest fires…. this has been a black metal public service announcement.
P.S. Not even Chuck Norris can save us.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
the pirate bay has been actin funny lately. I dont find it hard to belive that soon there will be “radical” alternative ISPs…the grassroots truth community’s own underground system or what not…………..if not this shit is getting foe real son
November 5th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Here is what I would do as the CEO of facebook. Tell all employees to ignore having to police the net, let them all carry AR-15s to work, and to install lots of cameras outside and inside the building. When the nazi american or un soldiers are forced to storm the facebook HQ, we get it all on tape then upload to the net to show the facists in the open.
Then maybe we have civil war 2. I guess after that its a matter of how pussy the Americans are.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
In a last ditch effort why not just allow people to only post text messages and not put in links, photos, movies, etc. on these websites.
We could still talk to each other, and it would just be our words.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
CRAP just got real.
Watch you language!
yup Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
watch YOU grammer
Want to know more about real shit? Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 10:12 am
watch YOU spelleng
badalandalabad Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
grammar nazi
Subcommander ShitJustGot Real Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
The Grammar Police will have you all arrested for your atrocious spelling.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
US citizens already get ZERO STRIKES! Clinton signed the Telecommunications Act of 1996 making it possible for the FCC to order internet providers to disconnect your service for downloading & sharing material that has been deemed “unlicensed”.
KFG39288 Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Clinton even signed the DMCA in 1999 and yes the Telecommunications Act of 1996. So 2 doors are closed cause of Dipsy DJ Doodle World Odor. Music from radio stations are bland and ear pain.
Jondoe Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Clinton thinks that all computers are like the office computers at work that there is NO DOWNLOADING allowed just like you are in the computer lab at school. Your computer is part of the NWO’s computer lab and we are lab rats.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Global Censorship /
bbc beck blitzer bolton breitbart coulter cspan
drudge gutfeld hannity huckabee imus ingraham
krauthammer kristol limbaugh malkin north
o’reilly rivera rove scarborough stossel susteren
November 5th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Rothschild says wear your seat belt…??? http://www.youtube.com/user/32.....iavJC7Q-TM
November 5th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
I shared the Boing Boing article on twitter (which has all the provisions) yesterday. No re-tweets at all. No one seems to care that the best way to quell dissent is to stop communications!
November 5th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
soldier, i agree, if WoW getts taken off line there will be ALOT of angry people with a whooooole lot of extra time on their hands heh
November 5th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
You guys are conspiracy theorists. The Internets doesn’t even exist.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Forgetting morality altogether, this is a stupid thing for the elite to try. Those free files keep a lot of people distracted. All the movies and games people want? Nothing could keep people distracted longer than that.
If these idiots want to rob people of their only sources of entertainment, then good luck to them. The last thing you would want, at this point, is more people paying attention.
Gary Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
I have to say that’s a pretty deep observation. Maybe that’s why they don’t bust torrent users? It’s easily done, you know. Torrents open your IP up for all the world to see. The feds could just sit back and bust people all day long, giving out fines and reaping a huge revenue. Maybe you’ve just explained why this isn’t done.
And as others have said on this page, the movies, music, games, etc. really are a load of time-wasting crap. People live in these fantasy worlds instead of the real world. I saw some people in my office gathered around a lady who’d downloaded “virtual leaves.” They were all oohing and aahing about the fake leaves. We live in the Ozarks, it’s November, the REAL TREES are bursting with REAL AUTUMN COLORS! But they can’t be bothered to go outside and brave the bright blue skies and clean crisp air. Weird. Very weird.
I’m going home and walking my dogs. They love the leaves. Real leaves that is.
Chris H. Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Hey Gary, you know I listen to a shitload of music…but I still pay attention to what’s going on.
H Chris Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Hey gary, i hate music, but i”m in raptures over the fake leaves. love the fakies.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
I went to a local gas station today in front of the clerk was a big box of dvd’s all illegal copied , online there are sites that let you download the latest hollywood crap that they put out, I don’t think its “file sharers” they are after its more like them trying to limit free speech and freedom, the morons who steal the copyright and copy/download the junk that passes for film/software do not know or care about the law but the guy selling these downloads does know he is doing something illegal, like the guy at the gas station today, I did tell him those were bootlegs, he gave me a dirty look and mumbled in some middle eastern language.
November 5th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
shit just got gay
November 5th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Hmm… I’m thinking this is more about torrents and the illegal spread of pirated software and media. I say let ‘em bust the torrent thieves. Anyone who honestly believes their “freedom” extends to ripping off other people’s copyrighted material is just bonkers. Certainly I don’t fret over some millionaire celeb getting cheated out of an MP3 here and there, but you can’t expect theft to be part of the “Bill of Rights” and 1st Amendment.
As for YouTube, most of those videos consist of 30 seconds of very lame and worthless introduction, then lots of typed text that you have to read (no vocalization), loud ugly music ripped off from some other source, and a bunch of video clips ripped off of other shitty videos. They usually end with another 30 seconds of idiotic promotion of a fake trademark that the uploader created in MS Paint. That’s not to say that all YouTube videos are garbage, only 90% of them are.
Do you get my drift? Most of these videos are not “homemade.” The are bits of clips ripped off from someone else, mixed with bits of music ripped off from someone else, with lots of lame, misspelled and grammatically incorrect text. It’s laughable.
Bottom line: if you’re stealing via Torrents you deserve what you get. I won’t cry for you and I certainly won’t fight for your non-right to rip people off.
Chris H. Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Dude, I’ve put a SHITLOAD of my money in the past into the music business. Between my father and myself, we own over 20,000 cd’s. That doesn’t include the thousands of concerts we’ve went to. Some of the artists today have been ripping off the fans…Not just the record companies, but the BANDS have also been doing this for their greed. I have RARELY seen a music artist actually give back to the fans that have supported them.
Chris H. Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
I forgot to add…the motion picture industry NEVER gives back to the fans. They just keep taking…and taking…and taking. Most movies these days suck…All flashy special effects without a good story.
badalandalabad Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
statistacally ppl who download music,buy more music,+i would not be able to buy all the music i listen to, let alone try and find the music i listen to,wich is unfindable in stores. making downloads illegal is like if i made crappy drawing but nobody is allowed to see it for free,if someone would steal the actual paper thats different,as for music,music is sound,how can u steal sound? the artists will still be able to play live,and ppl still always buy cd’s+ its the popular crap that gets downloaded the most,and thats a good thing,we should all encourage douchebags to download their douchebag music.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Practice safe computing. Always use a proxy when downloading.
Chilly8 Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Proxy won’t work if the data is being sniffed, unless it is an encrypted one. Pay for an encrypted proxy service, that should do it.
November 5th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
We should start our own internet, infonet…
John Doe #2 Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 10:20 am
good name
November 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
already cracked 2 wep connections near my house which i can pick up as long as my laptop is near the window (either side of my house). once i get an nvidia card i can crack the wpa’s around here (takes too long to crack the key on my cpu). proxies are too slow and often stop working or get their ip’s banned, so generally they’re only good for surfing anonymously – not mass file sharing. I’m currently running 2tb worth of videos off of my neighbors connection, also i got into his router which lists my laptop and server as the only 2 machines to ever have connected to it (it keeps them saved for a week then they disappear) which would indicate that no one is using it. 2wire routers always have wep encryption :p
Chilly8 Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 9:28 am
You might improve your connection with an antenna made out of a Pringles can. That would boost your send and receive.
November 5th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Feces have recently been authenticated
November 5th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
The day I pay Microsoft, Adobe, Sony, etc. for software that basically sucks….I’ll go back to traditional ways of communication.
As far as songs go, most bands WANT you to take their songs because, not everyone is Metallica, GaGa, or Snoop Dog with big record deals!
Fuck the Internet, fuck the Government trying to control the Internet.
For fun, I’ll just go find ways to fuck things up around town again!
November 6th, 2009 at 1:43 am
I dont know about music but when movie rights are sold the artist/producer get a small amount, the distributor gets a bigger chunk and rarely if they ever are big budget or hyped up go to movie theatres and make money usually the movies in theatres loose money, there is usually only costs covered if lucky, the major money made is still from dvd sales/rentals if the bootleggers take that channel away there will be alot of small producers -like myself- out of work and the only movies you see will be the mainstream crap most people who like movies hate.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:49 am
Copyright Law does NOT necessarily mean that copying or modifying copyrighted material such as songs, books, software, is illegal. The restrictions about what you can do or not do with copyrighted materials are determined by the license agreement for each copyrighted work. Open source licences such as the GPL, Creative Commons, and many others specifically enforce people’s rights TO copy, modify and share copyrighted materials when the copyright holder commits to applying such a license to their work. This is nothing new. Linux, for example has been around for almost two decades and the GPL has held it’s own in multiple court cases such as the famous SCO lawsuit. I would recommend that politicians learn about technology before they blindly generate legislation that will be useless the moment it is signed into law.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:25 am
I could see the old UUCP network coming back. That would be almost impossible for the government to police. Unlike the Internet, UUCP would be to censor.
For the younger folk, UUCP is a network that predates the internet, where one computer would dial anohter and so on for delivering data. It is a lot slower than the Internet, but that might have to happen if this shit goes through.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Three strikes? One too many. Every dog’s allowed one bite, sure, so i’d reduce the number of strikes to two. But i’d go further than merely banning these criminals from the internet after their second offence. I’d have them shipped off to forced labour camps, or better yet, shot! And i’d invoice their closest relative for the cost of the bullet, put them on ice and strip them of their organs and auction them off to the highest bidder on the international market (Chinese-style). Perhaps if we televised the torture of some of these criminals it may deter others from following suit. TV adverts broadcasting their ear piercing screams and helpless sobs while showing their bloody pulp of a face and panning over to the harrowing expressions on the faces of their loved ones should do the trick.
You bleeding heart pinko commies Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 10:17 am
should take your woolly do-gooder liberal ideas elsewhere!
concerned citizen of planet earth Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
[sarcasm]I don’t play base ball, when your’e out your out. Howzaaat![sarcasm]
November 6th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Just ask Richard Stallman.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
PETITION: LINUX IN EVERY CLASSROOM
November 6th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Chilly8: It used to be that a person could get around censorware by using a proxy. Well, I know of at least one piece of censorware that blocks proxies…if they’re unencrypted. Seems it can’t block an encrypted proxy.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Lets think about it for a second… What is this going to affect? You Tube will not just simply shutdown how ever, if Youtube have to regulate their upload content it might take weeks to get none copyright infringement material ie. video of police brutality or open political fascism uploaded. This will mean that real people news will not happen as quickly or as efficiently as has been the case in recent years. G20 protests and police brutality footage was available in almost real time, as a result most of us internet users were able to form our own informed decisions before government censorship could bury the story – As a result of this global treaty world wide instant information will be put back under the controls of our regulators (our governments) real people you tube videos may take weeks to surface may be even months due to “our back log of upload material….” and even a few days in difference of information delivery can be the difference in success or failure. ( Remember Waterloo, Rothchilde, Wellington and British gold – This all came down to Rothchilde receiving vital information about the battle a full two days ahead of the British monarchy and as a result being able to hijack the entire countries gold supply.)
Failure to retain the internet as a public servant of the people for the people will result in the same disastrous consequences that came about through loosing ownership of our Governments and police services……..
TOTAL TYRANNY
November 8th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
indeed ,it’s not only copyrighted stuff they are after,but a war on information