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Globalists Angle to Hijack Children with “Pre-K Education” Bills
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Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
July 24, 2008
Two bills now in the House of Representatives provide further evidence the government wants to tell you how to raise your children. The Pre-K Act (HR 3289) and the Education Begins at Home Act (HR 2343) aim to micromanage families in the military and those that fall below the poverty line.
| In this clip, Alex Jones talks about the efforts of government to control the lives of children. | |
According to Chelsea Schilling, writing for WorldNetDaily, the two bills “could give the federal government unprecedented control over the way parents raise their children – even providing funds for state workers to come into homes and screen babies for emotional and developmental problems.” The proposed legislation supposedly aims to prevent child abuse, evaluate medical conditions, and “close the achievement gap in education between poor and minority infants versus middle-class children.”
Of course, only the government is capable of determining the “emotional and developmental problems” of children, not parents. Under this program, ready for debate in the House, the government will decide the “cultural awareness” of children, not parents. “There’s some blather in the language of the bill about having cultural awareness of the differences in parenting practices, but it seems like that never applies to Christian parents,” pediatrician Karen Effrem told WND. In other words, the state will decide what sort of “education” children receive and that process will now start before kids enter a state inculcation camp, otherwise known as a public school. In fact, the language of HR 3289 — lovingly called the “Pre-K Act” — suggests children are to be steered into a preschool or daycare that follows state standards while mothers are to be moved into the “workforce,” that is to say disassociated from the education of their children.
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“Once they are involved, they don’t have any say over curriculum,” Effrem said. “There’s plenty of evidence of preschool curriculum that deals with issues that have nothing to do with a child’s academic development – like gender, gender identity, careers, environmentalism, multiculturalism, feminism and all of that – things that don’t amount to a hill of beans as far as a child learning how to read.” In other words, children will be brainwashed by the state. State education obviously has nothing to do with literacy or academic development. It has to do with making sure children are trained to follow the dictates of the state. It is about breaking down the family in deference to feminism, gender identity, and careers outside the family. It is about “family planning” and eugenics. It is about programming impressionable minds to accept homosexuality and abortion.
As Effrem notes (see Preschool Socioemotional Screening), a “movement already exists within organized psychiatry to label and drug people mentally ill based on highly controversial political and religious criteria, such as ‘intolerance’…. Due to reimbursement patterns, government promotion, and pharmaceutical industry influence, treatment almost always means use of psychotropic drugs. According to a survey of members of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, 9 out of 10 children that see a psychiatrist receive a prescription for psychoactive drugs.”
While HR 3289 and HR 2343 “may not be mandatory for low-income and military families, there is no wording in the Education Begins at Home Act requiring parental permission for treatment or ongoing care once the family is enrolled – a point that leads some to ask where parental rights end and the government takes over,” writes Schilling.
Obviously, according to the state, parents do not have rights, especially if they are “intolerant” Christians, home schoolers, or they have their own ideas about how their children should be educated. Once passed, it is said HR 3289 and HR 2343 will be voluntary, but as we know such programs have a way of eventually becoming mandatory, especially if a family is receiving some sort of state or federal “assistance.”
“If we and our children do not want to be a sociologically-controlled and semi-ignorant members of the United Nations New World Order, we need to recognize the importance of knowledge, and reject attempts at emotional manipulation and knowledge limitation,” writes Erica Carle. “Today’s problem-solving and decision-making system of education uses students, plays on their emotions, and tries to alienate them from those who should be closest to them. It creates animosity between classmates; wastes valuable learning time by forcing students to form opinions and listen to the uninformed opinions of their classmates; and discourages intelligent and moral behavior. It turns students against their own country and its Constitution in favor of the United Nations New World Order management system. Is this what we want for America’s children? If not, let’s get to work informing our state’s legislators that they must reclaim the schools and restore the Constitution.”
HR 3289 and HR 2343, likely to become mandatory for all pre-school age children, is part and parcel of this NWO management system.
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July 24th, 2008 at 10:18 am
There is a saying quantity VS quality – you can have quantity but very LIMITED quality.
The Human species is in large quantity so the quality is very rare.
So the ” idiots’ get into Leadership Positions (Government / Business Owners CEO’s) and all Hell is released on Earth – that is what we have NOW on Planet Earth
July 24th, 2008 at 10:25 am
If the U.K. is the U.S.’s training ground, then monkey see monkey do. WTF I am so mad. We, living on this planet, are nothing more than entertainment for the elite. We should ban together as the people living behind bars in this world we call a zoo, and begin charging admission. Just think, the poor and middle class soon could become rich. We just need to start charging. Then maybe we can become elite. LMAO Think people!
July 24th, 2008 at 10:32 am
To: U.S. Congress
We the people for The United States of America do hereby petition the Congress for The United States of America to vote into law the following legislation.
Transparency of Loyalty in Government Amendment: A proposal to keep citizens safe from cultivated treason against The United States of America.
“If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or accept and retain any present, pension, office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, foreign power, or secret society, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them.”
The intent of the Amendment is to ensure that no citizen hold any allegiance that would stand in contradiction to the free and open nature of the United States of America.
Sincerely,
The Undersigned
http://www.petitiononline.com/.....ition.html
July 24th, 2008 at 11:01 am
ALL OF YOU ARE UNAPPRECIATIVE INGRATES. LEAVE THE COUNTRY IF YOU DON’T LOVE IT. JUST GET OUT AND SHUT UP.
July 24th, 2008 at 11:03 am
Leave government away from our kids completely!
BEAT the international bankers at their own game…….secure your finances and become debt free!
http://www.becomericher.info
July 24th, 2008 at 11:21 am
in my locale in Ontario, the local ‘forces’ are calling for more child psychiatrists because up to 25 % of little children are undiagnosed and need treatment. This would have to assume psychological damage or disorders that require drug management. That is so disgusting.
July 24th, 2008 at 11:28 am
Who should be raising our nation’s children…a bunch of homophobic, racist, and sexist Amerikkkans or a bunch of trained professionals who know how to properly stimulate the physical, emotional, psychosexual, intellectual, and mental development? Stop living in the past. We can’t afford to not let the state play a major role in the raising of American children. You guys are just afraid that with expansion of public education, kids will see your racist eurocentricism for what it is and a generation that wants a new world order governed by all races (rather than our racist eurocentric global society ruled by white males).
July 24th, 2008 at 11:29 am
ah….
it’s for the children……
how sweetly wonderful to gain access to my home and business by a nosy high school grad working for the government who has the authority to tell me how to raise my child.
stuff it and go pound sand.
July 24th, 2008 at 11:42 am
NAZI YOUTH = NWO YOUTH
ATTENTION ALL PATRIOTS!
PREPARE YOURSELVES TO FIGHT AGAINST TREASON!
PREPARE TO TAKE A STAND,
WITH THE CONSTITUTION AND A GUN IN YOUR HAND!
YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!!
HOO-YAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.theamericanvoice.com
July 24th, 2008 at 11:42 am
and jasmine
you don’t have to love your government to love your country.
They are mutually exclusive and have zero to do one with another where patriotism and loyalty are concerned.
Government is not my mommy or daddy to tell me what to do and how to live.
Matter of fact my mommy and daddy don’t tell me what to do either.
You never add anything intelligent to any discussion my dear…just ramble on and seem very angry all the time name calling to all those who do not agree with your very narrow view of what you’ve been told to say and think.
You don’t sound like a very happy person or really do not like your life.
If you’re getting paid to be an ass on this website, please dear find another line of work-say a telemarketer or stand up comedian (try the middle east for the latter)?
I’m sure those jobs pay more than what you’re being paid..as we all know government jobs pay way less than their private industry counterparts.
July 24th, 2008 at 11:52 am
“The children must worship Molech of the grove or die! You all must lose faith in christianity and forget the purpose of family and life and worship the evil that the government worships.” Anonymous Dictator
Is this the new policy?
July 24th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
College Kid: you’re either a troll or the most politically uneducated youngster I’ve seen. Never mind, when you grow up, you and your evil cronies will never find me when I run off to the mountains for 20 years until your global empire crashes and burns in record time. The bigger they are the faster they fall.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
after hearing that lady talk about public schools on alex’s show I’m really thinking about homeschooling for the first time ever for my 9 yr old. My 1 yr old son was always a possibility because i’m never getting him vaccinated. I told my 9 yr old to never even mention any family matters at school for fear of cps, not that anything is wrong, but I’ve heard the horror stories. now I’m afraid of what they might be teaching her that I don’t know about and can’t control. What is a good mom to do?
July 24th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
#7 has partially revealed a good point.
“You guys are just afraid that with expansion of public education, kids will see your racist eurocentricism for what it is and a generation that wants a new world order governed by all races (rather than our racist eurocentric global society ruled by white males).”
While it’s not fair to assume that someone is afraid of an idea because they oppose it, it is certainly true that contemporary and historic world leadership, for the most part, are comprised of white males. I also don’t think it’s a smart or productive idea to implement a government made up of all races necessarily. Certainly, there should be the opportunity for anyone to rise to office, but, in my mind, that decision ought to be based on the merit of the individual and not their race.
Also, in regards to this statement:
“Who should be raising our nation’s children…a bunch of trained professionals who know how to properly stimulate development?”
Everyone should note that “the government” is not a singular entity. It is made up of thousands of people just like you or I. There are good people who work in government. In fact, a very wise neighbor of mine was recently elected as a council member in my city; Now she is a part of the government. I’ve met the mayor of my town on several occasions and his mother lives in a quiet home down the street from me. She is an ordinary, elderly woman and he, while lending himself to some common political stereotypes, is a decent man. This supposed NWO led by the Bilderbergs or the Jews or aliens or robots or what-have-you is in reality made up of ordinary people. The president can order his subordinates to begin the random slaughter of citizens, but I doubt that many, if any would follow such orders. The chief of a fire department can instruct his men to let burning people die but who is to say whether or not an individual firefighter will be courageous enough to go against orders?
To place an umbrella of blame on “the government” reveals a lack of consideration, especially from those here who make reference to compartmentalization. If an order comes down from the top, it must be followed and implemented on almost every level or else the order will fail. The president may mandate that everyone amputate their middle fingers. Perhaps he is corrupt and has loyal followers who disperse this order down the chain of command. Perhaps they have followings of political aspirants who, again, are willing to order their subordinates to comply. Yet at what point do you think that the chain of command will break? Is it a citizen who won’t submit to this unwanted procedure? Is it the surgeon who refuses? His director? The man or woman above that or yet another person from a tier above that? Society is incredibly more complex than “society” and government is far more interconnected with and interdependent upon society than is “the government”.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
SINCE THERE IS NO LONGER TIPS @ INFOWARS
Denver police / media ‘training the public’ to be handcuffed and taken ‘away for their safety’.
http://www.9news.com/video/default.aspx?aid=57851
Is this really the police first rodeo at a bank robbery? How could the police think for one minute after talking to the ‘victims’ that a second bank robber is still in the bank?
The local media does their part and ‘SELL’ the ‘handcuffing’ victims is ’standard procedure’.
So remember this video when the claim is…”there COULD BE terrorists in YOUR neighborhood” and…”It’s standard police / military procedure to handcuff you” and take you away from your home.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
to this day I hold the 2nd place all time record for the most number of swats ever given to a child in the history of the elementary school I went to … I never did like those people … they were always trying to instill in me the idea that there was something wrong with my family … trying to get me to turn in my parents … needless to say I dropped out of high school for a brief visit with college … today I program for an oil company and as long as I continue to work 10 hour days I will be able to maintain the lifestyle of having my own home … I am 40 yrs old now but I will not forget that I was hit with a wooden paddle an average of once a day from the time I started school until I was old enough to hit back
July 24th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
the nature of this life is war … the war is for your life … for your time and your efforts … yours and your childrens
July 24th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Serious , serious , serious !!!!!! watch now!!!!!!! http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?p=742
July 24th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
If the Globalists are your enemies, and you are Christians, why are you talking so badly about them? AREN’T YOU SUPPOSED TO LOVE YOUR ENEMIES AND BLESS THOSE WHO PERSECUTE YOU? I GUESS SINCE THAT IS DIFFICULT TO DO, YOU SHOULD JUST PRETEND JESUS NEVER TOLD YOU TO DO THAT. IF HE REALLY WANTED YOU TO LOVE YOUR ENEMIES AND BLESS YOUR PERSECUTORS, HE WOULD HAVE MADE THAT EASY TO DO.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
In 2005-2006 I went to see a pyschiatrist because I was feeling depressed. The first thing he did was put me on a cocktail of over 6 drugs. During our first meetings he asked me questions about my religion, my religous beliefs, and specifically whether or not I was a Christian. Once it become clear that I was not a Christian and had no religous sways one way or the other my treatment began to change drastically. I kept hoping I was wrong. Suddenly the doctor was canceling appointments, wasn’t there on 3 seperate occasions when I did fianlly get an appointment. The last time I went was the most disturbing. He had basically stopped seeing adult patients and was now exclusively seeing children. His entire office was filled with at least a dozen children waiting in his office. Whats my point?
My fear was that he was seeing the children simply to “promote” a Christian belief system. I saw and felt his techniques about “getting to know God” and understanding Christianity that he had tried with me…so I can only guess what kinds of pressure he was using with these children. Come to find out that 9 out of 10 are now of drugs would never surprise me. Question: What if the 4,500% increase since Bush took office in the diagnosis of “depression, bi polar, and ADD” are nothing more than ploys to introduce children to a devout cult religon like Christianity and get them on worthless untested, harmful drugs making Trillions of dollars? This Bush regime has done so many harmful things to its citizens that nothing can be “off the table”?
July 24th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
To connick:
“The president can order his subordinates to begin the random slaughter of citizens, but I doubt that many, if any would follow such orders.”
Yep, I’m sure most of the Iraqi civilians would agree with that statement.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
It’s the age old good vs evil. I can forgive the elite globalist for some of the atrocities ALREADY committed but I will never quietly march step into the type of future they’ve planned with all their “wisdom”. If not us at least our children deserve more.
“I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword”
J. Christ
July 24th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
@#4 JASMINE,
government oversteps constitutional bounds and you’re telling your countrymen to leave because they don’t like it? Well since you like it sooooo much…why don’t and take your ass and your corrupt politicians with you to another foriegn land…and forget you were ever our countrymen.
I hope in the future someone from my bloodline defeats someone from your bloodline on the battlefield. May he spill your decendants blood on American soil fighting your tyranical ideas to take back his life and his rights back.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
YOUR SPECIAL K CHILDREN ARE NOT GOING TO RISE UP ANYWAY. WHO DO YOU THINK YOU’RE KIDDING?
July 24th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
It’s really easy 2 translate the government once U know the key – they always mean the EXACT OPPOSITE!
They say it’s 2 ’screen 4 probs’, therefore it is 2 CREATE probs where they find NONE! In other words, 2 say the kids have ‘probs’, shove a bunch of pills down their throat – create MORE probs, & thus keep the system ever-expanding… 4 what? Y, ‘2 solve probs’ of course! HAHAHA
N E 1 associated with government is a suicidal creep, just like N E 1 who works 4 a corporation. I’m done pretending I have N E thing in common with Americans – hideous fat suicide freaks. Just look @ Alex 4 instance. Look what he’s doing 2 himself – killing himself with junk food just like 99.999% of all U Walmart cows. He could help himself so much more just by doing LESS!
Hey Alex – get control of your own arms OK? Stop piling crap into your face!
) Get a grip! R U a man or what? U can’t even control your own mouth? HAHAHA pathetic – so weak. Oh where’s my cheeseburger (gobble gobble) – jeez
Good riddance! Go pray 2 your non-existent ‘magic jew in the sky’ as your belly gains a new time zone HAHA
July 24th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Love your enemies, and pray for them. Bless them… but who was it that said you must bless thier actions and go along with thier every whim? You do yourself a favor to recognize the evil in this world, and to avoid it. “The shrewd one that has seen the calamity has concealed himself; the inexperienced that have passed along have suffered the penalty.”
Who calls themselves a Christian and yet does not love?
Who calls themselves an athiest, and yet hopes to God that these things will not come to pass?
In any case, the coming one world government was foretold in Revelation, nearly 2000 years ago. The best part is what happens later though. For now, however, it is only to get worse… and worse..
July 24th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
TO SEAH.
You are right, over indulging in food is a craving just like greed and all other negative emotions. If our body is unhealthy we become lazy, unmotivated, lacking the revolutionary will to fight this battle into greater depth. Alex Jones loves food, just like another person loves video games. We all over -idulge in something for Alex it is food.
But this is wrong. When you are in a position to change the world, I think you should sacrifice your desires for this greater purpose. If you don’t eliminate these poisons, then you are only a puppet, and not worthy to hold the throne. Any if this realization does not fit your inner spirit, then it is up to you Alex to work out your problems to transcend them, and not be passified by your feelings. Rise above them.
Only when man has conquered self, can he truly be called righteous.
July 24th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
“It is about programming impressionable minds to accept homosexuality and abortion.” OK, I understand that eugenists must love abortion and others will argue liberal homosexuality breaks down the ‘traditional family’ but please not every single issue in America revolves solely around being for or against the New World Order. It’s like saying the women’s suffrage movement was evil because the Rockefellers wanted to further split up families or maybe recycling is wrong too because global warming is a fraud. Maybe we should ban all police period because the war on terror is a fraud and we need to protect our rights. I agree with most of this article but at some point we need to admit some issues like homosexuality and abortion are a bit more complicated then simply being with or against the New World Order.
July 24th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
…Ah-bdi… Them dirty mother fuckers !!!
July 24th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
They will classify kids as x y or z then when the enforced sterilization comes back in, they will be able to eliminate huge swathes from breeding. Look at the pro-NWO crowd and u will see rank hypocrasy and materialism as absolute norms. Pure ego controlled robots.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Kucinich is one of the sponsors of this nonsense………jeez…
July 24th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
sorry..link to all co-sponsors…..
http://www.govtrack.us/congres.....=h110-2343
July 24th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
And this is yet another reason why I am so thankful to my parents for not sending me to school
Just my quick thought
Teenager
July 24th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Good thing no one knows me here. I must be tired because some of the “debunking” is starting to make sense to me. For instance, although not debunking, I agree fully with FishKing’s comment #28. I will extend that further saying that it is actually logical to have Eugenics as described all through Alex Jones’ shows and websites. If there were not so many different types of people around, there would not be all the problems that we are now having. It could not be. It is clear and as simple as that.
I do not believe in the killing off of the people who now are alive. To want that, tells me that the “elites” do not see that their special secret technology will keep them alive forever or else they could just wait for the masses to die of natural causes. Of course that would mean that the birth rate or reproduction of the human race would have to virtually stop.
Then again, there could be the already mentioned obvious and that is that maybe they do have the “Fountain of Youth”, but enjoy lording over everyone and putting fear into the ever growing control factor being the main point of their ploy. There really is no way of telling and that is because of my first statement, that there are too many different types of people around thereby having too many different types of opinions.
No matter, after all this information is constantly being soaked in by either hearing radio shows or reading about them in forums like this, it shows that a One World of one standard would be the best. The question then becomes, what is that one standard? Whose standard should be followed? As far as standards go, that is the answer right there. There really is no right or wrong. It is just what is accepted, what the standard is, almost like the rules of a game. Who creates the rules? Why are they the rules that they are? Why can they not be different? Why is there a book out to show you how to play 101 ways of the card game of Solitaire? Which is the “real” game of Solitaire?
Too many choices! Yes, Eugenics has its place also. Just read all the comments within here and see all the variations of the same theme. If there was only one standard, a professional like me would not have to always know who my audience is to keep them happy. It would be a one time learning and that would be it. The results would be a given known, like a mathematical equation.
Time to read more “inspiring” material around here,
Rhonda
July 24th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
GET OUT OF THIS COUNTRY YOU USELESS INGRATES. INFOIDIOTS BE GONE
July 24th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Dear Representative ______,
The Pre-K Act (HR 3289) and the Education Begins at Home Act (HR 2343) are two bills that would give unprecedented control over the way parents raise their children – TO THE GOVERNMENT!! The bills would authorize government workers to come into homes and use extremely subjective “socioemotional screening” techniques on babies and youngsters for emotional and developmental problems. There is no wording in the legislation requiring parental permission for treatment or ongoing care if a family is enrolled, and assuming a family can decline enrollment, even that choice will be documented by the government. Also, The Congressional Budget Office estimates that implementing the Education Begins at Home Act would cost taxpayers $190 million for state home visiting plus “such sums as may be necessary” for in-hospital parent education. The Pre-K Act, or HR 3289, is estimated to cost $500 million for each of fiscal years 2008 through 2013.
I strongly urge you to do all you can to strike both of these acts dead before they have the opportunity to get off the ground. There are absolutely no constitutional grounds for either of these acts, and I feel they are in direct opposition to the 3rd, 4th and 10th amendment.
Respectfully,
-YOUR NAME
Cut and past to:
https://forms.house.gov/wyr/welcome.shtml
July 24th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Comment to jr #20 (”During our first meetings he asked me questions about my religion, my religous beliefs, and specifically whether or not I was a Christian.” etc.):
When I read your input I actually got the impression that the psychiatrist was deliberately trying to intoxicate Christian individuals with his drug soup. Since you were not Christian he felt no need to destroy you and mess with your faith. Christians are not supposed to take medication – the greek word for “sorcery” is pharmakeia (pharmacy). If we take drugs we are saying to God – “hey, we don’t believe in you and in your power, we’d rather believe in the healing of these manmade chemicals”. It appears to me this “doctor” was deliberately seeking out Christians, but not for the reasons you assume.
The foundation for my faith in Jesus is not religious. I base my faith on the scientific credibility of the Bible, on geology, archaeology, nature, history, and common sense actually. I doubt that you could explain the life cycle of a butterfly to me, in logical evolutionary terms. Where are the LIVING links between man and ape? Surely some of the intermediate creatures would have had some beneficial assets that would grant them survival, even to this day. Evolution doesn’t make sense. We don’t observe creatures that are half-dogs. It’s an insane religion. Since the history of civilization is so short, since we can make diamonds in laboratories rapidly, since tales and depictions of dragons/dinosaurs are so abundant, since creatures can only turn into fossils in water, since humans are the only truly creative and intelligent creature on earth, since stalagmites and stalactites form quickly, since polystrata fossils are found all over the world… The list goes on and on. Only a willingly ignorant person can deny the Creator. And any person who accepts a religion that contradicts reality (such as catholicism, islam, hinduism etc) are at best blind or deceived. If you think catholicism is a christian religion, think again; Idolatry (pope and Mary), calling a person of flesh “Father”, acceptance of strange gods, whoring with the religion of evolution, and so on.
July 24th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
They must be pediphiles. Brainwashing the young to think everything they say is the truth, and it won’t hurt. It’s OK. Everyone does it. It’s normal. Trust me, I would never lie to you. Now do as you’re told. It’s for the better.
July 24th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
I’ve read a number of articles that have made me think the same thing: the government is moving in and heavy-handedly solving problems that society could have, should have dealt with on a grassroots level and did not.
There is no question about the fact that the government and big business created these problems. But that is no excuse for the fact that society did nothing.
Nobody White cared that minority groups were systematically being povertized and brutalized.
It was OK that the ghettos were hellholes of drugs, prostitution and corruption because it was “them”.
Then their kids started being bussed into middle class and lower middle class White schools and the school enviornment became a nightmare for kids who didn’t come to school with razor blades between two pairs of socks (I actually remember a girl in 5th grade who was bussed in from Coney Island who did that).
But no one did anything on a grassroots level to help.
So, now the gov’t is stepping in with “solutions” to the problems they created that White people didn’t care enough to try to solve and you’re whining.
***There is nothing that the gov’t is doing to you that you didn’t ask for with your indifference and your complacency and your prejudice.***
America has become what you ordered it up to become.
Either stop whining or begin to solve the problems yourselves.
D2
July 24th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Pour ceux qui recherche un forum en français:
Patriotes en éveil
http://911veilleqc.exprimetoi.net/
Inscrit-toi et participe au forum!!!L’armée des patriotes vous attends!!!
July 24th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Hey Jasmine, why don’t you make us leave? You’re all blow and no show.
BTW Jasmine, you’re really Troy, aren’t you? If so, how did you like those free matching linked bracelets the cops gave you when you got arrested for assault and resisting arrest? I hope Joe Beimel gets a restraining order on you.
July 25th, 2008 at 12:11 am
Rhonda,#34
Maybe take a few minutes off from admiring yourself(body) and realize what is being said here.
There isn’t a bunch of choices but one if you aren’t fast asleep.
That choice is only yours to make.
No institution or government should tell people how to raise their kids.(Period)
Some posters are making some suggestions that are worded to sell the idea of joint child rearing.
Don’t buy it.
Look within and you will find all the answers.
To Jasmine and the rest of the moles go FUCK yourself!!!!!!!
July 25th, 2008 at 1:17 am
@ Doreen Ellen:
“Nobody White cared that minority groups were systematically being povertized and brutalized.”
– Your statements are factually incorrect. Get over your racism.
July 25th, 2008 at 7:23 am
Until we unite and stand and make known what we the people wish.They will tell us what to do,take the fight to your state rep in congress never let up.Harp on them don’t let them rest.Pass on to others what you know.Always let your children know how much you love them.
July 25th, 2008 at 9:00 am
If we expect our government to coddle us, this is what we get. Along with a BILL comes a need to PAY THE BILL. Social insurances has created the misinterpretation that we expect to be coddled in order to feel safe and warm. Good god you crazy feds. You must think we are the stupidest slaves in history.
July 25th, 2008 at 11:10 am
This bill makes the communist manifesto look like the boy scout training manual! This is the very definition of tyranny.
People need to turn off their TV’s and video games and wake the hell up!
July 25th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Off_theGrid,
Your comment #43 is a polite one to me, but beyond just letting you know that I have seen it, I will comment on it because you did do one thing that annoys me with many people. I wish people would read what someone else says in the entire context. I realize that without body (no pun intended over what you said) language and hearing how a person means something, it is hard to always understand what is being said, but after re-reading what I said, it still seems rather explicit to me.
Yes, I understand exactly what the article is saying and I also agree with you and the many others here that it is a problem. I said I was tired and it seemed to me that some things from the naysayers seemed logical, whether we want to hear them or not. Then I gave a bunch of examples that showed why maybe some of those debunking comments make sense. My final examples about a card or sport game questioning why are the rules the only rules that have to be accepted should have made you and others think, even if you do not like what the article is relaying. That is all.
Now, you must have seen me here before, because if not, then I wonder how you could have been so polite to me and yet be able to compartmentalize your ending so well towards Jasmine. If you really think that what I said about knowing my audience was talking about my body with no other input to judge that by, you have a problem over nitpicking and then making up things. Therefore since I do not think you have that problem, you must have seen me around here before maybe going back quite some time, so give me the opportunity to say something in my “defense”.
Yes, I have spoken about my body in the past here. I have made a living because of my body, therefore there is a natural tendency for me to speak with that little flair at times, but that is not the reason I have done it. I have done it because as you know, we have the ones like Jasmine (who does make sense at times believe it or not) who takes things so seriously. We have all the religionists who call out for doom and gloom, some able to refer to on-topic sections, but mostly they just say what they say all over the place. Then we have the ones calling for war or for death or for hangings or for shootings or just for anything that is so serious. I do my “body” talk to help give some lightheartedness to the people here while attempting to stay on topic. Is that really so bad?
I realize that I am not in my own domain here. I also realize no one knows who I am. Therefore I am not going on name recognition and also therefore can be alittle bit more open in what I say, something I cannot do in my public world, but if you (and a few others here who have said the same thing as you about me and my body) cannot enjoy in this hard core format alittle bit of “sit back” beauty daydreaming to enter into all your seriousness, you are going to get an ulcer.
We all get so serious at times in our lives. During my career, I had received more letters from people who had very serious personal problems than even Alex does some days. Sure, this is not a “love” format, but no one ever said I did not give them at least a moment to smile when they felt their worst. I do hope that if you see me again and I mention about my body, that you do sit back for a moment and let the stress of that moment settle down. That is the only real reason why I have mentioned about my body now and then. Believe me, I do not have to brag. I know my place and I know where my best attribute has helped doing my little part for mankind all around the world when I was active. I was given my rewards and am humbled by the many I have received. I hope this helped to get you to understand me alittle bit better as well as maybe understanding better that there never really is only one way of looking at things as I was attempting to say in my other comment.
Now back to the battle (and not of the sexes–hehe)!
Rhonda