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“Grand Larceny” on a Monumental Scale: Does the Bailout Bill Mark the End of America as We Know It?
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Richard C. Cook
Global Research
October 2, 2008
Tonight the Senate passed the $700 billion Wall Street bailout bill by a vote of 74-25. This follows the rejection of the bill by the House on Monday. In an MSNBC poll, 62 percent of Americans oppose the giveaway, but the lobbyists are doing everything possible to assure the rejection is overturned. According to Bob Borosage, co-director of The Campaign for America’s Future, House leaders "are bringing in the small business lobby and the banking lobby to buy the twelve Republican votes they need."
The Senate took up the bill in order to pressure House members who voted against it to change their positions when it returns to a vote on the House floor on Friday. This procedure may be unconstitutional, because revenue bills must originate in the House, but there is no time or political will for anyone to mount a challenge on constitutional grounds. As another means of inducement—or blackmail—the bill includes the repeal of the wildly unjust alternative minimum tax.
Every reputable economist commenting on the bill opposes it, including NYU’s Nouriel Roubini, who says the plan is "totally flawed." He says the plan is:
"a disgrace: a bailout of reckless bankers, lenders, and investors that provides little direct debt relief to borrowers and financially stressed households and that will come at a very high cost to the US taxpayer."
My own view is that the plan is worse than that: a crime; grand larceny on a monumental scale.
Here’s why: We know that the debacle started with homeowner defaults on subprime mortgages and that it has now spread to other types of mortgages as foreclosures spread. We know that the unhealthy use of subprime mortgages started during the Clinton administration, as did the bundling and sale of these mortgages into mortgage-backed securities sold in the financial markets.
What has not been reported is that the Bush administration turned these acts of reckless lending into a national program of mortgage fraud. Soon after George W. Bush became president in 2001, meetings at the White House between Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan and administration officials became more frequent. According to mortgage industry insiders I have interviewed, direction soon began to come down from the banks to mortgage brokers to falsify borrower income information to allow them to qualify for loans that were otherwise out of reach.
The FBI has investigations underway to prosecute some of these cases of mortgage fraud. But they are not reaching above the brokers’ level. The FBI is not gaining access—or at least they have not reported it publicly—to information about collusion at the political level or at the level of the banks which provided the leveraged funding for mortgage money.
But at the time the housing bubble was inflating, no one was watching. Note that when Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson testified before the Senate Banking Committee last week, he said he was shocked to learn when assuming office in June 2006 that no federal agency regulated mortgage lending. Rather this was an area left to the states.
What Paulson did not say was that when the states attempted to intervene, they were blocked by the Treasury Department’s Office of the Comptroller of the Currency. In a February 14 article in the Washington Post written before he resigned, New York governor Eliot Spitzer wrote:
"In 2003, during the height of the predatory lending crisis, the OCC invoked a clause from the 1863 National Bank Act to issue formal opinions preempting all state predatory lending laws, thereby rendering them inoperative. The OCC also promulgated new rules that prevented states from enforcing any of their own consumer protection laws against national banks. The federal government’s actions were so egregious and so unprecedented that all 50 state attorneys general, and all 50 state banking superintendents, actively fought the new rules. But the unanimous opposition of the 50 states did not deter, or even slow, the Bush administration in its goal of protecting the banks. In fact, when my office opened an investigation of possible discrimination in mortgage lending by a number of banks, the OCC filed a federal lawsuit to stop the investigation."
Why did the Bush administration do this? The only possible answer is that it had every intention of producing the housing bubble, one that had the effect of not only inflating the cost of homes and real estate but also pumping billions of dollars of borrowed cash into the economy through mortgage and home equity loans.
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The bubble enriched huge numbers of executives, managers, and shareholders throughout the financial and real estate industries, and provided jobs to millions of people. The bubble also brought back foreign capital to U.S. markets that had been scared away by the dot.com bust of 2000-2001.
Everyone seemed to benefit, but it was those at the top who skimmed the greatest profits. And for an economy that had already given away millions of its best manufacturing jobs through NAFTA, Most-Favored-Nation trading policies with China, World Trade Organization agreements, etc., the bubble acted as a kind of substitute economic engine.
It also resulted in tax revenues that allowed the Bush administration to implement its 2001 and 2003 tax cuts for the rich and provide funding for the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. Of course these tax revenues were not enough, as the national debt soared to over $9 trillion during the Bush years as well.
Economist Dean Baker of the Center for Economic and Policy Research makes the point:
"The near hysterical discussion (count the times ‘Great Depression’ appears in news stories) of the bailout still largely fails to recognize the roots of the economy’s current problems in the collapse of the housing bubble. Much of the discussion assumes that the problem is just bad subprime loans and that house prices will bounce back once the credit markets are working properly."
The point is critical, because what the Senate and House leaders are telling us, as are President George W. Bush, presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain, and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, is that the bailout is to get the American economy moving again. Credit, they say, is the lifeblood of the economy, and without credit no one can make a move.
But credit is the lifeblood of the economy only because people are broke. Purchasing power in the U.S. has collapsed, and it is getting worse as the recession which has now begun worsens.
People can’t get loans, not because the credit markets are stalled, but because they have no savings for down payments and can’t afford to repay what they wish to borrow. If they could repay their loans, plenty of credit would be available. But there is no money—and no savings—within the economy for it to get moving again. The only possible source is more federal borrowing to prime the pump Keynesian-style. That is what the politicians claim the bailout will do. But it won’t.
Then what is happening?
What is happening is that the Bush administration is engineering a massive raid on the Federal treasury to pay off the people within the financial industry who have been operating the housing scam because the politicians told them to do it. This is hush money.
The people in the financial institutions who are getting the money will be passing it on to the big banks that leveraged their criminal lending practices. The giant sucking sound you hear is almost a trillion dollars of future taxpayer earnings going into the vaults of the nations’s biggest banks, such as Citibank, Bank of American, and—the pet bank of the Rockefeller family—J.P. Morgan Chase. Much will also go into the vaults of foreign investors such as the Bank of China.
And these banks have no intention of recycling the money into productive U.S. investments. Despite the political posturing, where much of it will go at the second or third tier is into executive salaries and bonuses. The fat cats are "gittin’ out while the gittin’s good."
What happens next?
Well, it is already happening. In the post-bubble era there will be no more economic engines for the American economy. A long term recession and depression are inevitable, and they are expected by those in the know. In fact, there has been a plan in the works for a very long time to bring down the U.S. economy, and it will be happening over the coming months.
This is why the government is also preparing to implement martial law, or something close to it, in case public unrest breaks out. We will likely also see a clampdown on free speech, the right to protest, and use of the internet. Federal facilities are being prepared all around the country to backstop state prisons and local jails that are already bursting at the seams.
This is the plan, so people need to begin to take whatever measures they can to cut their cost of living, get out of debt, and protect themselves and their families.
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October 2nd, 2008 at 11:48 am
Let me preface this by saying that I am Canadian, not American.
But if there were ever a time in my life that I feel American, it’s right now, as I write this.
Ever since 9/11 I felt, more than any time before that, that my American neighbours had been viciously cheated. When I saw bodies falling from the twin towers, I realized just how pointless and stupid things like national rivalries and hubris and American/Canadian jokes really are. With that came the sobering realization that our destinies are more aligned than many of us care to think.
I’ve been following the trail of ________ group’s (I leave a blank because no matter who you refer to – be it the Bush Admin, the Bilderbergs, the Secret Societies, the Bankers, or whoever – they’re all the same massive, twisted cabal in the end) misdeed and destruction for 7 years now.
I can say with confidence now that it doesn’t take a f---ing rocket scientist to realize that America, Canada and the rest of the world is not run by politicians, militias or even presidents. We are all under governance by _______ group, and that, my friends, is the sick reality of life as we know it.
I suppose it took the greatest market crash since the 30’s to realize that we are inexorably linked to America more than anyone else in this world.
The question begging we Canadians is – what’ll happen to us? Our Prime Minister never spat in the face of the UN when they told us to stay put in ‘03. We never borrowed billions from China and failed to pay it back. We never sent an army to decimate a country in the Middle East for -
- wait a second…we did do that last thing.
But at least our Prime Minister never stole his high seat in office.
Then again, he did recently get exposed for bribing a whole bunch of retired Golfers into voting for him back in ‘06.
Sweet Jesus. What else have we done that we have no clue of? What will happen to us in the aftermath of this madness?
What will Canada do when the fear spills into her end of things?
I’ll tell you what will happen.
We are now going to feel the bullwhipping of the laws passed after 9/11 – laws we found no reason to worry about then. Laws that wormed their ways from The 9/11 Commission into our House of Commons.
Laws that, unbeknownst in our ignorance, are virtually the same as their “Patriot Act” and “Rendition Act,” only they carry different names in our legislation.
Laws that, at the time, seemed ridiculous and typically de facto of a delusional Bush Administration bent on bagging those crazy terrorists.
Laws that, once passed, cemented yet another piece of foundation for what will soon be known as the “North American Union,” the elitists’ next order of business to complete their one world government.
But we always knew the score. Or at least, we could easily have known it.
Even if the corporate media hid things from us, it wasn’t like hundreds of steadfast American and Canadian journalists weren’t risking their hides to expose certain “disturbing” things. Things like constitutional changes that allow the President to deploy American troops on his own soil to prevent headaches like “public unrest as a result of civil chaos or emergency crises.”
Constitutional “adjustments” that grant the President’s suits permission to cavity search any random person that so much as looks at them the wrong way.
Constitutional “corrections” that give federal authorities power to kidnap you, gag you and ship you off to Cuba to get tortured by hired thugs.
It was under our noses all along. All it took was a bit of curiousity and some basic knowledge of google to unearth these filthy and venal bills that Bush and Harper were passing like wind.
But we were all too busy worrying about who was going to win America’s Next Top Model. We were too concerned with upgrading to that newer and shinier Blackberry. Our personal schedules were always more important than the everyday raping of constitutional laws that for the past century, have secured our rights and privileges in this free continent.
You can kiss all those so-called “rights” goodbye now (if you haven’t already).
If you’re Canadian, and you’re reading this, take a telescope and point it to the border and stare hard.
You might be able to see Lady Liberty make a run for it.
For the first time in history, our developed first world will taste true chaos, and as a result, our governments will be forced to keep things in order.
They will tart up this necessary form of control with a special term – “Martial Law.”
What no one really knows is that “Martial Law” is simply a euphemism for “Military Dictatorship.”
What no one really knows is that as you read this, North America’s leaders have hastened to order a “brigade, shipping in from Iraq and Afghanistan and all sorts of bases in Canada and America to serve as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks…for the next 6 months to a year.”
This means that once 600 or so million North Americans click and realize that they’ve been robbed of untold amounts of tax money, the US and Canadian military (or the soon to be “world police”) will be here to make sure you don’t overreact.
Once the sirens start to scream and the s--- starts pelting the fan, the streets will run rampant with all the little people who never saw this coming. Throngs of soccer moms and meddling executives and labourers and starved students will stampede in every which way like confused cattle before the butchering.
If you protest these bullies, they’ll call you seditious and beat you so bad you’ll never be able to cry again.
If you try to escape, they’ll run you down like rats and pen you up in your house with just cause.
If you conspire against them, then God help you if they find out.
Which they will.
Then, they’ll stick a microchip in your arm so that if you misbehave again, they’ll know where and when to end you.
Mass panic and fear will spread like wildfire. The right kind of fuel for this kind of coup.
This economic clusterf---, like the Iraq war and 9/11 and Pearl Harbour before it, is precisely what was needed in order to finally put this Bush Doctrine to work.
My American brothers, there’s some educating to do. The people of our great continent need to know who’s really been sodomizing them for the past 70 years. I wonder what they’ll think when they found out it was never the politicians and policy makers behind this after all.
I wonder what people will think 50 years from now when everyone realizes that this financial 9/11 did nothing but unearth more lies and deceit and give absolute power to the culprits of global tyranny – the central banks.
I wonder what children will think 50 years from now about the way we used to use cash money to go about business. I wonder if they will ever register all the blood, tears and grief that went into making the Amero currency that they will use.
Maybe Orwell had something.
My American brothers, there’s work to do.
I love each and every one of you as much as I love my Aunt and Uncle and cousins in Foxborough, Mass.
As much as I love my cousin in Miami, Florida. As much as I love my best friend in West Palm Beach. As much as I love my aunt in Albany, New York.
When the s--- hits the fan, I wont sit and watch like I did in 2001. I’ll already be on your side of the border and by your side in arms. For when they lie to you, and rape you of your money and plot against your freedom, they do the same to me and my countrymen too.
When the s--- hits the fan, know that 20 million of your Canadian brothers will be by your side.
We’re in this together.
There are approximately 400 million of us and no more than 1000 of them.
We must find a way to remind them of that…
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:54 am
Ask yourselves this. Why do we need to increase the FDIC value to 250k if this bailout is supposed to save the economy?
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:01 pm
While the minority rule the majority it should be noted that the minority elite command billions of dollars and with that money they hire and corrupt our judicial, law enforcement, and political leaders and just about any local, state or federal organizations. With that much money they can hire thousands to do their bidding. Greed is linked with survival but I say that elite wealth should be confiscated before an all out revoltuion. In this way, the elite will be brought back down to Earth. Once they have to act human again they will realize that they are what they are, an elite who’s lifestyle is based on their riches. Take away the money and you have a normal citizen. Let’s begin with taking away what can be used against us. I will just bet that they will change thier attitudes right before our eyes if they are forced to suffer the fate of the masses.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Dude El Leo just left the realest message ever. I was thinking of leaving man for real. Now im going to stay and defend and fight for whats right because this is not fair. Ride til the Wheels go out!!!
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Well, it looks like the House got castrated only one day after I thought “they finally grew some”
That was short lived. Bunch of wussies!
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:19 pm
To: El Leo Supremacy, You are right there are 100’s of millions of us and only a few thousand elite; but remember there are millions of protective minnions around them. You need to find out where their “soft underbelie” is [like country clubs, golf courses, parks, casinos, etc.].
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:45 pm
…Ah-bdi…be damn !!! The cheater and the cheated !!!
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:32 pm
The pot is now right for the rest of congress to sell us out on the next vote..
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Bravo
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:22 pm
To WoW #4 – I’m glad you took it as real. And I’m glad you decided against running. If you do, you’re playing their game. Stand your ground. Like I said before – I don’t know you and it’s unlikely that I ever will, but if the time comes and they decide to f--- with us, I’ll be there right next to you fighting till the last breath.
To Victor #6 – You’re dead right. We need to expose their weakness. It’s interesting that you bring this up. I’ve been quite conflicted recently, within myself. Though I would have never advocated violence in the past, at the same time there is nothing I would love more than to see that scalawag piece of s--- Rockerfeller get the guillotine. I’ve never experienced rage and pure hatred like I have these past 7 years. It’s all because of “them.”
Trust me – I’ve been trying to think of a weakness of theirs that can exposed, but it’s evidently quite difficult. You’re right, they’ve got tank-loads of minions at their side, not to mention advanced intel, technology that we’d think for being alien it’s so advanced, weapons of all facets (biological, smart, etc.), hackers, the list goes on.
I fear that the only way to beat them is through violence.
There is an age-old rule in the game of revolution: Kill the leader. The rest will crumble.
I may get hunted down and offed for saying this, but, the Bilderbergs need to be wiped out. They are the nucleus and lifeline of all this corruption. The have meetings every year in different locations. They even came to Ottawa in 2006. It was there and then that they interrogated Alex Jones and his peers. You can read all about it on this website. They need to be taken out…
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:23 pm
El Leo – What a brilliant post. I live in Albany, and can tell you that I hope my fellow friends and Americans alike will fight along side me, you, and the rest of the men and women who wish for freedom. Defend ourselves, defend our friends, family, and whoever else is on our side.
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:27 pm
El Leo Supremacy : You brought tears to my eyes. You are a wonderful person, God bless you. Btw I live in Europe , and trust me , the problem is not just USA or Canada , they already own Europe 100%
. They wouldn’t have gained all this power and gone this far if American people had their own hands on their federal reserve and army. But beleive it or not , they have no chance. They are going to topple down. There is a huge wakening all around the world… and whether they like it or not sooner or later they are going to go down. As you said they are minority and we are majority. Death to NWO.
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Now we are talking!! All the posts here now are valid and pertinent. Get the word out. Redouble your efforts, FEAR NOT. We have the power of numbers and as much as I would like to see change NOW, it may take more time. Victory today, or victory tomorrow is still victory. Get the word out, get the word out, get the word out!
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Time to:
– Learn to grow and store food
– Setup bartering networks
– Accumulate small-denomination gold and silver coins and ditch the US Dollar
– Stock up on ammo…
It’s comin’……………
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:08 pm
are they still speaking French over there in Belgium? (The University of Liege). Well your a Daisy if you do!
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Some wonderful words there, El Leo.
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:15 pm
So Bail US Out, Bushie. I can’t make my bills now either, and neither can most of the Working Class. BUT You are NOT interested in us peasants.
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Somebody !! Say it aint so!!
http://www.newagecitizen.com/#.....eign_Banks
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:25 pm
GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH, WE NEED TO IMPEACH, IMPALE (OOPS) AND PROSOCUTE THESE CRIMINALS AT LEAST FOR BREAKING THIER OATH TO SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONTITUTION ( THIS IS THE BEST PART) FROM ALL ENEMIES FORIEGN OR DOMESTIC !!!!!!! WHAT A CROC BUT WE TRUE AMERICANS HAVE A DUTY TO DO JUST THAT !!!! LETS TAKE OUR GOV BACK FROM THESE CRIMINALS AND GIVE IT BACK TO THE PEOPLE………..
October 2nd, 2008 at 5:24 pm
This is it guys! Get ready……..One, two, three…………crash!!!
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:10 pm
The only way to win is never stop fighting. There is a reason they have over the years tried to take away all our weapons. They never really got past that part in america, I think that is why we are not further down the spiral then we are today. My advice is to learn tactics and the art of small unit minutemen fighting. If you read about army tactics is that they will not go after you if you attack and run. They dont want to get caught in an ambush. Use that to your advantage, arabs do it all the time. Watch out for UAV though. Best bet is to never stay in the same place for too long, it is harder to find you that way. Once you open the can of worms, training never stops. And sometimes it just fun to run around in the wilderness.
Give me liberty or give me death! Never fear death, it will happen anyways.
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Grand Larceny!! This IS why Bush is placing troops on US soil because he is fully aware that we are REALLY pissed off and he is hoping the troops will protect them from this TREASON of monumental proportions.
Well? One good part of this is the fact that when the troops decide to go AWOL, they are now on their home soil!
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Crazy Carl,
I think you hit the nail RIGHT ON THE HEAD!
Most people are afraid to die and this is precisely why nobody has gone the length necessary to show this system who is Boss.
This is a life that nobody will EVER get out of alive, so get used to this fact because they plan on killing us anyway and when you are dead, there is NO fighting back at that point. We right now have the necessary amount of people to get this done but we must act ASAP to take our power back from the international bankers before they begin this plan of mass genocide on the people of this nation.
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:25 pm
As I wrote in a comment on another story. This is grand larceny indeed.
there are mulltiple instances of the crime and a blatent conspiracy.
It is worth a glance at the law relating to conspiracy to commit larceny.
The law of larceny and related offenses was adopted in the United States and remained in effect throughout the country’s early history. Then, in the twentieth century, many legislatures abolished it in favor of a broad theft statute. In North Dakota, for example, the crime of theft now includes “larceny, stealing, purloining, embezzlement, obtaining money or property by false pretenses, extortion, blackmail, fraudulent conversion, receiving stolen property, misappropriation of public funds, swindling, and the like” (N.D. Cent. Code § 12.1-23-01 [1995]).
In states that have incorporated larceny into a broad theft statute, the punishment for a theft is based largely on the value of the stolen property. In Iowa, for example, theft of property exceeding $10,000 in value, theft directly from another’s person, and theft of property in and around certain abandoned buildings is theft in the first degree, a class C felony. A class C felony is punishable by a prison term of up to ten years.
if the value of the property reaches into the billions or even trillions, then the crime
is more serious, and with conspiracy may become a class B felony or greater.
Wisconsin Statute
Wisconsin Statute 939.31 provides: anyone who with intent that a crime be committed, agrees or combines with another for the purpose of committing that crime may, if one or more of the parties to the conspiracy does an act to effect its object, be fined or imprisoned or both not to exceed the maximum provided for the completed crime; except that for a conspiracy to commit a crime for which the penalty is life imprisonment, the actor is guilty of a Class B felony.
If the object of the conspiracy is to commit more than one crime, then the defendants can be charged with criminal conspiracy for each conspired crime. If the intent was to commit more than one crime, and at least one crime was committed, then the defendants can be charged with conspiracy for each intended crime plus the completed crime.
CLASS B FELONY
For a Class B Felony, the penalty is imprisonment up to 60 years; however, for a repeat offender the term of imprisonment may increase up to 2 years with prior misdemeanor convictions, and up to 6 years with a prior felony conviction.
Other possible consequences of committing a felony are loss of the rights of citizenship, deportation if the felon is an alien, and liability to a more severe sentence for successive offenses. Felonies are usually tried by jury, and in some states the accused must first have been indicted by a grand jury.
It is possible that multiple defendants might be indicted in several states at the same time
and some states still impose the death penalty in serious cases leading to loss of lives. In
the case of a federal trial and conviction, the miscreants may find themselves guilty of a
capital offence, for example under the AEDPA legislation, if these actions are deemed to
be terrorism, and of course the victims must be seen to have justice.
The Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996, Pub. L. No. 104-132, 110 Stat. 1214, (also known as AEDPA) is an Act of Congress signed into law on April 24, 1996 to “deter terrorism, provide justice for victims, provide for an effective death penalty, and for other purposes.” It was passed with broad bipartisan support by Congress (91-8-1 in the United States Senate, 293-133-7 in the House of Representatives)
The federal death penalty allows any method of execution if the person was given a federal trial. Lethal injection, electrocution, gas chambers, hanging and the firing squad.
So then Mr. Paulson et al, are you ready for a 60 year “lie down” or worse ?
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:44 pm
I belive their weaknesses ar ethe international drug trade, fuel supplies and TRUTH.
if we STOP using their drugs, we have the upper hand. If we walk more often, it will help, but if we hijack their fuel trucks we win.
TRUTH is their absolute weakness! They are terrified that the truth gets out which is why all the ones on the inside that are threatening to speak out end up DEAD! If you are in ‘THE KNOW’ and are on the inside, you MUST tell your story to the public and get the truth out, this is the ONLY way to assure your safety. You have a duty to the world to tell the truth because if you do not do this you will suffer the consequences both by the ones that are controlling you and the ones that are getting so upset that they will eventually get to the point that they will believe they no longer have anything left to lose.
Think about it!
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Yeah, Yeah…just watched the VP debates…Whatever! Bottom line is they are both two sides of the same coin and we are screwed either way just like the bailout bill. I personally think it would be much more adventagous for the american public to throw all the current admin. and the candidate parties and the ceo bankers and the money hungry greedy bastards and bitches on wall street into a giant oven set at 120 degrees with no food and water with giant forks and watch them all eat each other! Hell, the money made on pay per view would make enough to stimulate the economy.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Oh, I forgot…There are three kinds of people on this planet…
Those who do what they are told without question.
Those who control those who do what they are told without question.
Those who don’t play that game, envied and hated by the other two.
The only way to win the game is not to play the game at all! There is a revolution comming to this country and oh my god is it going to be ugly!
We are tired of being told what we can and can’t do.
We are tired of the rich controlling everything.
We are tired of our income being taxed and our purchases being taxed. My God they tax the money we make and the money we spend.
We are tired of other peoples ideology being made law without the consult of the American public.
We are tired of your lies.
We are tired of your spin.
We are tired of your double speak.
We are tired of living under laws that you make without our consult and watching you not live by the same rules.
We are tired of being controlled.
We are tired of your wars and murder that kill our own people and other inocent people so you can have more money, oil, power, land…whatever.
WE HAVE GROWN TIRED OF YOU AND ALL YOU STAND FOR AND DO!
WE HAVE GROWN TIRED OF YOU AND ALL YOU STAND FOR AND DO!
WE HAVE GROWN TIRED OF YOU AND ALL YOU STAND FOR AND DO!
WE HAVE GROWN TIRED OF YOU AND ALL YOU STAND FOR AND DO!
WE HAVE GROWN TIRED OF YOU AND ALL YOU STAND FOR AND DO!
WE HAVE GROWN TIRED OF YOU AND ALL YOU STAND FOR AND DO!
WE HAVE GROWN TIRED OF YOU AND ALL YOU STAND FOR AND DO!
When it starts, it won’t ever stop until you are cought and brought before OUR justice…You can run but you can’t hide. Soon will come the time when you are posed the statement…You are either for us or against us. If the question was posed today, the answer is obvious…You are against us. You have done all but publically declare war against the American people.
We have reached the end of our rope with you! You have brought on what is comming with your greed and ignorance and psychopathic meglomaniac personalities. You are control freeks playing God with others lives and we will not stand for it anymore. It is clear to the American public that you are way over payed, way over empowered and WAY undermedicated!!!
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:44 pm
All right. Looking at things logically in the “war” for our minds, it seems that we are not growing fast enough in equivalent to “them” coming out with all these laws, rules, regulations, and upscaled brutality. There are still so many people to “wake up”, but I see there is one thing that will get the people to muster together to the point of believing people like this group who bravely met and had their “down with the regime” conference.
Most people say here and some have even called into Alex Jones’ radio show to say that they are having such a hard time getting others to believe the “truth” stories. Yes, many have “awakened”, but percentage-wise, it is small. There is only one thing that will snap all the nation’s people to finally “get it”, where people who are like this brave group and those handing out “truth” DVD’s or flyers, will be able to be listened to almost immediately. That one thing might happen in the next 40 days or maybe an additional 75 days or so. It was said here by others and has been spoken about for years, starting from the Clinton era before he left office.
The only thing that will snap the entire country into “awakefulness” or realization of the “truth”, is to have Marshal Law, to stop either the presidential election somehow or to stop the transfer of power over to the president elect. All other Constitutional laws have been broken by this regime and the people have accepted it, but it seems that they want to have the Constitutional election. So what we need is to have that Marshal Law which seems to be the only thing that the people are saying that they will accept for stopping an election by the Constitution.
If the election or transition of power is done, then I would tend to believe that we really are in trouble because no one would transfer power, which technically is the same thing as giving oneself up to the authorities for crimes committed, unless that person(s) was assured of a safe haven and if a safe haven is available, that means that whomever is taking over the power position would be condoning all crimes committed and therefore would be just as bad as this regime. That allowance of the transfer of power would then obviously be done for a facade, to help fool the people, making it look like “CHANGE” actually is happening, when it would not be.
MARSHAL LAW (or the stoppage of the presidential CHANGEover) IS OUR SAVIOR that will gather the people together in one fell swoop that is not happening now,
Rhonda
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:02 pm
The Federal Reserve Board is the most evil and corrupt institution this world has ever known. This unscrupulous group of international money changers shut down the economy in Argentina a few years back. The Argentinians could not access their money. This was grand theft on a massive scale, and the bankers were given immunity from their crime. The Federal Reserve Board is the terrorist cell we should fear. They can strike at any time and we are currently powerless to stop them.
The bankers will use every form of abuse, deceit and violence to continue issuing and controlling our money. They have the power to bankrupt Nations. The Executive and Judicial branches of our Government are just a few tools at their disposal. They control our media, military, State and Municipal Governments as well as their public servants. Everyone, including you and me, are on their payroll!
The only solution is to vote fearless and powerful allies to our Republic into office. These individuals will introduce policies and enact laws that will remove the money changers power to issue money and declare all debts owed to them null and void. They must restore and uphold The Constitution. It will be a revolution that will require great sacrafice and cost lives. As they have given us, so shall it be given to them. These evil individuals must be held accountable and brought to justice for their crimes!
Right on El Leo Supremacy!
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:40 pm
does anybody know where J D rockerfeller, jp morgan, are buried so I can piss on thier grave this is what they wanted from the very beginning control of everything.
October 3rd, 2008 at 4:37 am
***** URGENT : TO ALL CONCERNED CITIZENS *****
We can use the internet to GAIN power over corporations and
corrupted government officials and END THIS NONSENSE -
I have explained my idea on how to achieve this in a PDF here
http://actiontrigger.no-ip.org.....litics.pdf
Please comment!!!!
I AM MAD AS HELL AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!
- The Network, 1976
October 3rd, 2008 at 4:37 am
***** URGENT : TO ALL CONCERNED CITIZENS *****
We can use the internet to GAIN power over corporations and
corrupted government officials and END THIS NONSENSE -
I have explained my idea on how to achieve this in a PDF here
http://actiontrigger.no-ip.org.....litics.pdf
Please comment!!!!
I AM MAD AS HELL AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!
- The Network, 1976
October 3rd, 2008 at 4:42 am
Violence is not the answer. Here is something that someone sent me after 2001. I touches the root of the answer better than anything I have seen and only requires we wake up and wake one another up. This was written by Clarissa Pinkola Estes, Ph.D, author of the bestseller, Women Who Run with the Wolves:
My friends, do not lose heart. We were made for these times. I have heard from so many recently who are deeply and properly bewildered. They are concerned about the state of affairs in our world right now. Ours is a time of almost daily astonishment and often righteous rage over the latest degradations of what matters most to civilized, visionary people.
You are right in your assessments. The lustre and hubris some have aspired to while endorsing acts so heinous against children, elders, everyday people, the poor, the unguarded, the helpless, is breathtaking. Yet, I urge you, ask you, gentle you, to please not spend your spirit dry by bewailing these difficult times. Especially do not lose hope.
Most particularly because, the fact is that we were made for these times. Yes. For years, we have been learning, practicing, been in training for and just waiting to meet on this exact plane of engagement…
I grew up on the Great Lakes and recognize a seaworthy vessel when I see one. Regarding awakened souls, there have never been more able vessels in the waters than there are right now across the world. And they are fully provisioned and able to signal one another as never before in the history of humankind… Look out over the prow; there are millions of boats of righteous souls on the waters with you. Even though your veneers may shiver from every wave in this stormy roil, I assure you that the long timbers composing your prow and rudder come from a greater forest. That long-grained lumber is known to withstand storms, to hold together, to hold its own, and to advance, regardless.
In any dark time, there is a tendency to veer toward fainting over how much is wrong or un-mended in the world. Do not focus on that. There is a tendency too to fall into being weakened by dwelling on what is outside your reach, by what cannot yet be. Do not focus there. That is spending the wind without raising the sails. We are needed, that is all we can know. And though we meet resistance, we more so will meet great souls who will hail us, love us and guide us, and we will know them when they appear. Didn’t you say you were a believer? Didn’t you say you pledged to listen to a voice greater? Didn’t you ask for grace? Don’t you remember that to be in grace means to submit to the voice greater?
Ours is not the task of fixing the entire world all at once, but of stretching out to mend the part of the world that is within our reach. Any small, calm thing that one soul can do to help another soul, to assist some portion of this poor suffering world, will help immensely. It is not given to us to know which acts or by whom will cause the critical mass to tip toward an enduring good. What is needed for dramatic change is an accumulation of acts, adding, adding to, adding more, continuing. We know that it does not take “everyone on Earth” to bring justice and peace, but only a small, determined group who will not give up during the first, second, or hundredth gale.
One of the most calming and powerful actions you can do to intervene in a stormy world is to stand up and show your soul. Soul on deck shines like gold in dark times. The light of the soul throws sparks, can send up flares, builds signal fires, causes proper matters to catch fire.
To display the lantern of soul in shadowy times like these – to be fierce and to show mercy toward others, both, are acts of immense bravery and greatest necessity. Struggling souls catch light from other souls who are fully lit and willing to show it. If you would help to calm the tumult, this is one of the strongest things you can do.
There will always be times when you feel discouraged. I too have felt despair many times in my life, but I do not keep a chair for it; I will not entertain it. It is not allowed to eat from my plate. The reason is this: In my uttermost bones I know something, as do you. It is that there can be no despair when you remember why you came to Earth, who you serve, and who sent you here. The good words we say and the good deeds we do are not ours: They are the words and deeds of the One who brought us here. In that spirit, I hope you will write this on your wall: When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no doubt. But that is not what great ships are built for. This comes with much love and a prayer that you remember who you came from, and why you came to this beautiful, needful Earth.
October 3rd, 2008 at 4:47 am
Yawn…….it ended quite some time ago but since the chemtrails all but put us in a coma, who knew? Forget the lost cash. You might want to peruse these as martial law is imminent and it smells a lot like what happened in Germany……….same pals, different country. website whatdoesitmean.com website stevequayle.com website uaff.us. Book 2008 God’s final witness. Fellow AMERICANS PREPARE FELLOW CHRISTIANS I AM RETURNS PENTECOST 2012 ALL GLORY TO HIM. IN GRACE, ONE OF THE REMNANT.
October 3rd, 2008 at 7:29 am
we knew this was coming. anyone who watched cnbc during 2000-2003 would hear many pundits worrying about deregulation, a housing bubble, etc. not to mention 1987 onward…
Jimmy Rogers moving out of US investments, etc.
anyone could see it if they were listening…
we should use political cartoons to show lynched bankers and politicians, perfectly legal, right?
Remember the ruckus in Denmark over cartoons? Let’s get started, who’s first?
October 3rd, 2008 at 8:10 am
Phil Graham, McCain’s former econ advisor until he told the public to stop whining, inserted this time bomb in the middle of a 200+ page bill. Clinton then signed it. I suspect he was too busy with his sex life to read carefully. Here is why they wanted the bad loans. You have a derivitive called a CDS that is basically betting on a loan failing. Next, you have the Prez direct Fanny and Freddie to push minorities (and, illegal immigrants) into loans they cannot keep up with called subprimes. Fanny and Freddie, being quasi government entities, do as they are told. (The Prez gave a speech saying he was directing them to do so) You then bundle those bad loans together and call them a security and sell them overseas where they still believe in American integrity. After all, they had already loaned a pile of money to the U.S. to pay off war profiteers. The bundled loans default predictably. You make sure that they do. You have gotten tons of bucks for bundled bad loans and then make tons of bucks from the bets that those same loans will default. When they default, you blame the minorities for the mess. Those foreign countries that the U.S. is already in debt to are understandably upset that their banks are now going belly up. If they call in those other loans that the U.S. now relies on to run the whole system, the U.S. is instantly bankrupt. Can’t call out the Prez without risking martial law or a false flag attack. The bailout is a shakedown, buying time. It cannot fix this because CDSs are running somewhere in the neighborhood of $55 Trillion and some are being bet on Treasury Bonds defaulting.
“The truth will set you free. But, first it will piss you off.” Gloria Steinem
October 3rd, 2008 at 8:11 am
http://video.google.com/videop.....2583451279
Paul Grignon’s 47-minute animated presentation of “Money as Debt” tells in very simple and effective graphic terms what money is and how it is being created. It is an entertaining way to get the message out. The Cowichan Citizens Coalition and its “Duncan Initiative” received high praise from those who previewed it. I recommend it as a painless but hard-hitting educational tool and encourage the widest distribution and use by all groups concerned with the present unsustainable monetary system in Canada and the United States
October 3rd, 2008 at 11:46 am
The chain of bankruptcies this year has caused some banking panic and might cause a long economic recession. Many of the recessions in the United States were caused by banking panics.
nomedals.blogspot.com
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:06 pm
its comforting to read the posts above because you realise there are many people who think this way.
but really when you talk to the man on the ground they are so disconnected from what is happening that after while it feels pointless to try and you end up looking like mr conspiracy with a screw loose.
we dont need governments to try to oppress us into silence other people will do it without hesitation.
i am fast coming to the conclusion that its better to keep my own counsel and
shut the f--- up
and sit back and watch what happens when these people are jolted from their sleep by the new reality coming to them.
f--- mr guy on the street i can think.
you deal with it i know what im gonna do
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:27 pm
we are so screwed,,can t speak because our words fall on deft ears . can t revolt , because that is what they want, they have their soldiers ready ,, all we can do is bitch, and prepare for the hell that is coming our way.. run for the hills or swamps . where ever they can,t find you and take food. and ammo for rabbits and squrrials , yeah you will be eating small fury creatures just to survive . when the food runs out people will do anything to save themselves . be as wise as serpents and as peacefull as doves . wait soldiers have to eat too . they could be a good sorce of food..and weapons .. i have invested in precious metals , like silver and steel and brass and copper fmj .. guns and ammo even liberals are buying guns..get them now while you still can..
October 4th, 2008 at 6:14 am
http://video.google.com/videop.....7695921912
WOW, THIS KNOCKED MY SOCKS OFF, NOW I KNOW WHAT THESE CALLERS WERE TALKING ABOUT WHEN THEY CALLED IN TO TALK TO ALEX. DOES ALEX NEED A NEW PARADIGM?
YOU HAVE TO VENTURE WELL INTO AN HOUR TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I’M GETTING AT.
October 4th, 2008 at 6:15 am
crazy carl
is it a lie that the pen is mightier than the sword?
October 6th, 2008 at 9:23 am
thank goodness for 2012
the planet is going to save us!!!
the chaos she will bring will seem nothing compared to the dark plans they had up their sleeve….
save yourself =-plant a tree and a carrot today !!
October 6th, 2008 at 10:13 am
I can’t believe it after all the great wars in the past and this is what America has come to. I say its better to be safe than sorry. You can only save yourselves from this tyranicalrex eating away the republic. No use telling people because they think the american dream can’t be destroyed, but I say dreams are only in your sleep. The only solution to this problem is to stand up against the tyrants and fight for our god given rights, as people on this planet stand up and fight for freedom, fight for your children and most of all fight for your survival!