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H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic: Iowa Contemplates “Forced Confinement” in a “Quarantine Facility”
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Michel Chossudovsky
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September 6, 2009
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Iowa public health officials have acknowledged the existence of a blank template entitled FACILITY QUARANTINE ORDER in the case of a Novel Influenza A H1N1 pandemic. The official press release states, however, that there is no draft or text of a “Quarantine Order” by the Iowa Department of Public Health.
Reported by the Iowa Independent:
“A quarantine template created by the Iowa Department of Public Health and accessible through the Centers for Disease Control Web site should not be of great concern, according to a press release from health department officials. ‘IDPH wants to make it clear that Iowa has not issued any isolation and quarantine orders for novel influenza A (H1N1), and has no plans to issue any this fall,’ officials wrote in the press release. See Health officials: Iowa quarantine document not cause for concern, Iowa Independent, Sept 1, 2009
The IDPH suggests in this regard that the drafting of public health templates is a routine undertaking, while also confirming that ”in preparation for public health emergencies,” …“isolation and quarantine orders are only very rarely used in very specific situations.” (emphasis added).
The last statement of the IDPH is notoriously ambiguous: If indeed isolation and quarantine orders are rarely used, why then was a template prepared which explicitly contemplates an ORDER pertaining to a QUARANTINE FACILITY? Moreover, the template was issued on May 1st, at the very outset of the H1N1 swine flu crisis in Mexico, barely two days after the WHO declared a level 5 pandemic advisory on April 29th.
Are we playing on words?
The template already contains the essential features of a formal QUARANTINE ORDER, which suggests that quarantine procedures are contemplated within the Iowa Department of Public Health. The result of these procedures have led to the formulation of the blank template.
The issue, therefore, is not whether a quarantine order has been activated. The issue is
1) the State of Iowa has contemplated a policy of “forced confinement”,
2) at some future date, in the next few months, the blank template entitled FACILITY QUARANTINE ORDER could be activated with a view to actually implementing the quarantine precedures.
Also of significance is the fact that this template entitled FACILITY QUARANTINE ORDER has been endorsed by the Atlanta based Center for Disease Control (CDC), which has published the document on its website.The CDC is the main federal agency responsible for H1N1 pandemic preparedness in coordination with other governmental agencies including FEMA, Homeland Security, State and municipal governments, as well as in liaison with the WHO.
There are two quarantine documents on the CDC’s website. The first refers to HOME QUARANTINE ORDER, the second to FACILITY QUARANTINE ORDER. (pdf)
Click to access the CDC page, which identifies both templates as CDC reference documents. Media reports pointed to “rumors swirling after a quarantine form was found by someone on the internet…” (See report on kimt.com, September 1, 2009)
We are not dealing with rumors. The FACILITY QUARANTINE ORDER document posted on the website of the CDC, a federal government agency, envisages quite explicitly “forced confinement” in the case of the H1N1 swine flu:
“The Department has determined that it is necessary to quarantine your movement to a specific facility to prevent further spread of this disease. The Department has determined that quarantine in your home and other less restrictive alternatives are not acceptable because [insert the reason home quarantine is not acceptable, the person violated a previously issued home quarantine order, the person does not have an appropriate home setting conducive to home quarantine, etc.] The Department is therefore ordering you to comply with the following provisions during the entire period of quarantine:
1. Terms of confinement. You are ordered to remain at the quarantine facility, _____________________ [insert name and address of facility], from ___________ to ____________ [insert dates of quarantine].
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4. Legal authority. This order is issued pursuant to the legal authority contained at Iowa Code chapters 135, 139A and 641 Iowa Administrative Code chapter 1, a copy of which is labeled Attachment B and is attached to this order for your review. The Department shall comply with the principles for quarantine contained in subrule 1.9(3) of this attachment when issuing and implementing this order.
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5. Ensuring compliance. In order to ensure that you strictly comply with this Quarantine Order the Department or persons authorized by the Department may regularly inspect the quarantine facility.
6. Violations of order. If you fail to comply with this Quarantine Order you may be ordered to be quarantined in a more restrictive facility. In addition, failure to comply with this order is a simple misdemeanor for which you may be arrested, fined, and imprisoned.”
This is an official document of the Iowa State government, which has also been endorsed by the Centre for Disease Control (CDC). If it were a preliminary or internal draft, it would not have been published by the CDC. The question is whether similar quarantine procedures are being replicated in other states across America.
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The full text of the controversial Iowa Template is indicated below: To access the pdf version of the Template on the CDC website, click FACILITY QUARANTINE ORDER
BEFORE THE IOWA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH
DIRECTED TO: [insert full name and address of subject of order]
[insert case #]
FACILITY QUARANTINE ORDER
The Iowa Department of Public Health (Department) has determined that you have had contact with a person with Novel Influenza A H1N1. Novel Influenza A H1N1 is a disease which is spread from person to person and is associated with fever (greater than 100.0 F), cough, sore throat, rhinorrhea (runny nose), nasal congestion, body aches, headache, chills and fatigue. Novel Influenza A H1N1 presents a risk of serious harm to public health and if it spreads in the community severe public health consequences may result.
The Department has determined that it is necessary to quarantine your movement to a specific facility to prevent further spread of this disease. The Department has determined that quarantine in your home and other less restrictive alternatives are not acceptable because [insert the reason home quarantine is not acceptable, the person violated a previously issued home quarantine order, the person does not have an appropriate home setting conducive to home quarantine, etc.] The Department is therefore ordering you to comply with the following provisions during the entire period of quarantine:
1. Terms of confinement. You are ordered to remain at the quarantine facility, _____________________ [insert name and address of facility], from ___________ to ____________ [insert dates of quarantine].
2. Requirements during confinement. During the period of quarantine:
a. You must not leave the quarantine facility at any time unless you have received prior written authorization from the Department to do so.
b. You must not come into contact with anyone except the following persons:
(i) other persons who are also under similar quarantine order at the quarantine facility;
(ii) authorized healthcare providers and other staff at the quarantine facility;
(iii) authorized Department staff or other persons acting on behalf of the Department; and
(iv) such other persons as are authorized by the Department.
c. Your daily needs, including food, shelter, and medical care, will be provided for you during the period of quarantine at the quarantine facility. You should bring clothing, toiletries, and other personal items with you to the quarantine facility. You will have limited access to a telephone at the quarantine facility. You may bring your cell phone with you should you desire to have greater access to a means of communication.
d. You should inform your employer that you are under quarantine order and are not authorized to physically come to the work place, although you may work from the facility via electronic or other means if appropriate. You should be aware that Iowa law prohibits an employer from firing, demoting, or otherwise discriminating against an employee due to the compliance of an employee with a quarantine order issued by the Department. (Iowa Code Section 139A.13A)3. Information about Novel Influenza A H1N1. You should review the information contained at Attachment A for information about Novel Influenza A H1N1. You should refer to information provided at the quarantine facility to address specific concerns and questions you have about Novel Influenza A H1N1. In order to find out more information about Novel Influenza A H1N1 and its symptoms and spread, you may also access the Department’s web-page at www.idph.state.ia.us. If you do not have access to the internet from the quarantine facility, you may contact the Department at 1-800-362-2736.
4. Legal authority. This order is issued pursuant to the legal authority contained at Iowa Code chapters 135, 139A and 641 Iowa Administrative Code chapter 1, a copy of which is labeled Attachment B and is attached to this order for your review. The Department shall comply with the principles for quarantine contained in subrule 1.9(3) of this attachment when issuing and implementing this order.
5. Ensuring compliance. In order to ensure that you strictly comply with this Quarantine Order the Department or persons authorized by the Department may regularly inspect the quarantine facility.
6. Violations of order. If you fail to comply with this Quarantine Order you may be ordered to be quarantined in a more restrictive facility. In addition, failure to comply with this order is a simple misdemeanor for which you may be arrested, fined, and imprisoned.
7. Your rights B appeal rights. While under quarantine you have the rights as described in subrule 1.9(8) of Attachment B. In addition, you have the right to appeal this order pursuant to subrule 1.9(7) of Attachment B.
(signed & dated)
DIRECTOR or MEDICAL DIRECTOR
IOWA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH
Lucas State Office Building
Des Moines, IA 50319
Attachments to this Order:
Attachment A — Facts About Novel Influenza A H1N1
Attachment B — 641 Iowa Administrative Code chapter 1To access the second document click HOME QUARANTINE ORDER
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KarmakazeNZ Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 2:04 am
You have GOT to love the heapings of retard in this article! let’s all enjoy it together shall we?
“The last statement of the IDPH is notoriously ambiguous: If indeed isolation and quarantine orders are rarely used, why then was a template prepared which explicitly contemplates an ORDER pertaining to a QUARANTINE FACILITY? Moreover, the template was issued on May 1st, at the very outset of the H1N1 swine flu crisis in Mexico, barely two days after the WHO declared a level 5 pandemic advisory on April 29th. ”
Let’s see. A Novel virus springs up, quickly killing a fair number of people. WHO declares a level 5 pandemic alert (the equivalent of defcon 1) and two days later someone in Iowa thinks…
“Hmm maybe we should prepare a document in case we need to forcibly quarantine Alex Jones Fanboys who will run from quarantine and risk killing millions because they think the NWO is gonna get them… and submit it for legal approval?”
I don’t suppose any of THAT could be POSSIBLE could it?
Oh no it just HAS to be the start of the NWO pandemic that’s going to kill us all… wait, you mean it DIDN’T start up?
Well then its disinfo that is being used to discredit … err
Umm WTF IS the point again?
In fact, lets not move on yet. Lets have a closer look:
“If indeed isolation and quarantine orders are rarely used, why then was a template prepared which explicitly contemplates an ORDER pertaining to a QUARANTINE FACILITY?”
RARELY… not NEVER… And that’s only ONE of the retarded things about this statement.
The other is:
“rarely used, why then was a template prepared ”
I don’t know, because they are rarely used and they didn’t have one?
Jesus this guy is a retard on several levels. This might in fact be the cause of the Big Bang…
“Are we playing on words?”
YES YOU ARE YOU f---ING LYING RETARD!!!!
Jesus they’re even BLATANTLY TELLING YOU now!
“The template already contains the essential features of a formal QUARANTINE ORDER,”
NO s--- SHERLOCK!!! My god this guy is f---ing dumb. It is a TEMPLATE for an ORDER… so OF COURSE it has the essential features of one!
Do you see how these guys work? The state the perfectly NORMAL in hysterical overhyped BULLs--- ways, and then act like they’ve exposed the evil conspiracy!
How can any of you take Alex and his Merry Men seriously when THIS is the kind of bulls--- they feed you? Are you THAT dumb?
KarmakazeNZ Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 2:08 am
Oh by the way – its forced quarantine of the potentially sick, or forced vaccination of everyone..
Take your pick, you idiots.
Do you tards not get it – MILLIONS COULD DIE – this is not a f---ing game. Now, I personally don’t think it will happen. BUT, if it does, shouldn’t we do something to stop it from killing most of us?
So what does MR f---ing Alex retard Jones think we should do IF a terrible pandemic breaks out?
DIE?
Guy Mann Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 8:09 am
Who says their vaccine is the answer? Here’s how it could work. The virus is created to make you sick but rarely die, which is what H1N1 does, it kills less than the regular flue. So then they create a panic, which they’re doing, and introduce the vaccine. Say one out of 1000 vaccines is a soft kill weapon. So one out of 1000 people extra will DIE (from the vaccine) of the same symptoms as the flu, which will make more people want to get vaccinated. Remeber, the vaccine is “untested” and the last time they used it in the 1970’s thousands died of nerve damage (look it up). I’m not saying this is what’s going on, but it seems like it. And there’s no way I’m trusting a vaccine that’s totally untested and has a track record of killing you in horrible ways if you’re unlucky. Also, why make huge preperations for something that’s less bad than the regular flu? Like quarantine plans…
Karmakaze Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Stupid ass software… posted a full rebuttal… and its gone…
Oh well, you’ll just have to take my word for it: at the end you looked like a bigger retard than you do now
Guy Mann Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 8:13 am
What’s your problem, officer? This information wasn’t widely available until AJ put it up. Implying that a legitimate lack of knowledge of something is stupidity is actually the halmark of stupidity. Let me put it in terms you may understand – YOU ARE ACTUALLY THE STUPID PERSON. Now go write a parking ticket or direct traffic or something.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
just a routine “undertaking”…interesting choice of words
KarmakazeNZ Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 2:13 am
Two days AFTER a level 5 pandemic alert..
Yes, in THAT situation, it IS a routine undertaking. And has been for decades! Do you people think the word “quarantine” is some new NWO invention or something?
evo Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 10:13 am
LOL good point.
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Karmakaze Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
I know…
Stay tuned for more…
Same truth time, same truth channel…
September 6th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Sweet Mother of Pearl !! Geez Truther, your posts keep getting longer and longer.
Moderator: You’ve done a great job in not allowing so many other posts, I’m just wondering why you continue to let this person take over a thread. I love God, and try to live my life right, but to have to navigate through Truthers ever growing diatribe, is getting on my nerves. If I wanted to read verses, I would go to the Bible. This site IS NOT the Bible.
KarmakazeNZ Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 2:16 am
“I’m just wondering why you continue to let this person take over a thread.”
Because this site is run by right wing Christian retards? I wouldn’t be surprised if Truther is actually a Watson.
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September 6th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Ok, back to the article. The Swine Flu is a flop. America and half the world allready know it is a setup. Nobody really wants the vaccine. Even the old fart of a doctor on Fox News Sunday said HE WOULD NOT take the vaccine. He did not say anything was wrong with it, but did say everyone should at least take the regular flu shot.
Of course I will not even take the regular shot. I’m older than most on this site and have never taken the shot since the mid 70’s when, well, you know. The last two years, my wife talked me into getting the seasonal flu shot, and both times I got sick. This year NO SHOTS, never again.
Iowa is just blowing smoke. This is what happens when you have a state worker with too much time on their hands. I HOPE. I originally thought Mass. was a trial balloon, but I expect that perhaps it was just Ted and his crew pulling the same old crap.
If there IS a rapid succesion of state after state following suite, then I’ll be “buttoning up things” around my castle. I still do not think the flu scare was meant to be the “big one”. Not now anyways. Too many cats have been let out of the bag. Too many people are WIDE AWAKE.
k Reply:
September 6th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
I agree with you on the ‘no shots’ part,.but why would Iowa just be blowing smoke? Why waste time putting something on paper they do not intend to ‘use’ at some point?
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Get some Vit. D3,..CoQ10, wash your hands and stay healthy.
The sad part of this is,..’how many people’ that are in Iowa and read it,.will then go to the
doctors for treatment? Some may be afraid they’ll get whisked away to some quarantine camp and not seek medical care that they may need….
oldenough Reply:
September 6th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
K,
I was just trying to illustrate that this could be nothing more than the work of a bored/freaked out State worker, with nothing better to do. I am fully convinced that this template has been drafted by CDC or WHO, and the Iowa worker came across it, modified it to reflect Iowa, and presented it to his boss. This is an ASSUMTION.
As I stated, unless we start seeing multiple states getting onboard with similar documents, I am not going to lose any sleep over it. I pick and choose my battles, and THIS is nothing more than a skirmish.
dn Reply:
September 6th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
whiskey..thats been a secret cure for many ailments over the years..forget vitamins/minerals. even doctors/experts use it for such purposes in winter….have done for over a century!
oldenough Reply:
September 6th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
K,
Sorry, forgot to respond to your concern about people reading the quarantine doc. and thinking they better get the shot. I’m sure that most people have allready made up their mind as far as whether or not they are going to get the shot. Those who have decided “NO”, do not care what anyone says, they know they cannot be forced, and if that means “doing whatever is neccesary” to keep from getting the shot, then so be it.
Those who have decided yes, well then, no problem. To hell with the flip flopping, spineless sheeple that are left. You cannot save the world. Besides that, I’m still not convinced that the swine flu shot is nothing more than Big Brother and Big Pharma sharing the billions.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 2:51 am
@k
“Why waste time putting something on paper they do not intend to ‘use’ at some point?”
Let me see, I’m sure it said why right there in the article… yep here it is:
“barely two days after the WHO declared a level 5 pandemic advisory on April 29th. ”
OMG! The WHO declared the pandemic equivalent of defcon 1, and two days later Iowa prepared a template for an order “just in case”? How dare they!
The NON-RETARD question is why didn’t EVERY state prepare one? I bet they did!
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@oldenough
“I was just trying to illustrate that this could be nothing more than the work of a bored/freaked out State worker, with nothing better to do.”
Holy s--- dude… don’t try and do that! They’ll start calling YOU a shill next!
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@dn
“whiskey..thats been a secret cure for many ailments over the years..forget vitamins/minerals. even doctors/experts use it for such purposes in winter….have done for over a century!”
So has arsenic… why don’t you take a megadose and make REALLY sure you don’t die from the flu?
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@oldenough
“Those who have decided “NO”, do not care what anyone says, they know they cannot be forced, and if that means “doing whatever is neccesary” to keep from getting the shot, then so be it.”
Except the one thing that WILL be necessary if you refuse to be vaccinated and are exposed – quarantine – right?
You’d risk spreading a killer disease to everyone you know and love – but hey at least you’ll have your FREEEEDOOOMM (yelled in best phony Scottish/American accent)
Dave Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 7:05 am
The flu is already a pandemic that kills hundreds of thousands around the globe each year. Its only a killer disease if you are in poor health, live in poor conditions, etc. Why subject us to forced vaccinations and quarantine for something that already happens every single day of our lives? If you can’t see that, you are living under a rock (which apparently you are).
You must not be an American though, because you would understand the premise of freedom if you were. Our country was founded on certain freedoms, and the point is that people are trying to take those away. Just because you are uneducated and sarcastic doesn’t mean you’re right.
KarmakazeNZ Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 7:47 am
“The flu is already a pandemic that kills hundreds of thousands around the globe each year. ”
Tell me about it… I’ve been trying to explain that to these retards for ages now.
“Its only a killer disease if you are in poor health, live in poor conditions, etc.”
Aw damn.. thought I met someone that knew what they were talking about…
No, *Seasonal Human Influenza* is only a killer disease for the immunocompromised (the sick, elderly and children) – A pandemic strain WON’T be normal seasonal flu (well it is but not the way WHO has decided to define it for now).
The Spanish Flu of 1918 and all other dangerous pandemic strains over the years have had one thing in common with each other that they don’t share with the normal seasonal strains – the ability to cause a cytokine storm in the host.
A cytokine storm is the term used to describe a massive OVERREACTION by the body’s immune system. In those strains, the flu doesn’t kill you, your immune system does.
So in the Pandemic strains you are actually more likely to die the STRONGER your immune system is. For example in 1918, the young healthy adults were relatively more likely to die, rather than just get really sick.
KarmakazeNZ Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 7:47 am
“Why subject us to forced vaccinations and quarantine for something that already happens every single day of our lives?”
They’re not. They are saying they will subject you to those things IF a pandemic strain like the 1918 strain starts killing people en mass. Normal seasonal flu is less than 5% fatal, but the 1918 strain for example was closer to 50% – one out of every two people that actually contracted the virus died. Under THOSE conditions, vaccination and quarantine are the LEAST of your problems.
Of course there are retards in government too. There are four ways to look at it:
“It won’t happen”
“It might happen, so we should be prepared”
“It will happen and we should do something NOW!”
and
“Who cares if it happens, we can get f---ing rich because the peons think it will!”
Only the second one is logical and not based on pure greed or stupidity.
“If you can’t see that, you are living under a rock (which apparently you are).”
Ooooh… Don’t YOU feel stupid now?
KarmakazeNZ Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 8:05 am
God this software is s--- house… wont let me post this last bit and I have no idea why…
Here is a link to a site with software that works so you can read the last bit if I cant get it on this retard site:
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JesusThisSoftwareSucks Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 8:16 am
By the way Dave…
Seeing as you say I am uneducated, let’s see how educated YOU are.
I come from New Zealand. What is the name of MY country’s founding document?
I know yours, so you prove how much more educated then me you are…
Come on… I won’t even call you a cheat for using Google.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
*crickets chirping*
KarmakazeNZ Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 2:18 am
“If there IS a rapid succesion of state after state following suite, then I’ll be “buttoning up things” around my castle.”
What will you do when 5 out of 10 people on your street cough up their lungs and die? Will you log in to infowars.com to see what Alex thinks you should do?
sarah marie Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 11:48 am
everyone should stop giving this f--- the time of day. he’s a waste of intelligent discussion, waste of space, waste of air. obviously a TROLL. can’t complete three out of four sentences without the use of “retard”. takes one to know one, i suppose.
go get the vaccine and die from the virus you’re trying to protect yourself from.
why don’t you do a little research on vaccines and then try to form a knowledgeable argument. or are knowledgeable arguments just too high above you?
Karmakaze Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
“he’s a waste of intelligent discussion”
You wouldn’t know “intelligent conversation” if it slapped you in the face…
*SLAP*
See?
“waste of space, waste of air”
Worried about your “Carbon Tax” Bill?
“obviously a TROLL”
No s---, Sherlock! Did you figure that out for yourself?
“can’t complete three out of four sentences without the use of “retard””
No? You noticed? It’s a speech impediment called “Talkingtomoronsitis”… And I thought I had it under control
“takes one to know one, i suppose.”
Ever heard of “capitalisation”? I see you know what capitals are… so why don’t you use them?
“go get the vaccine and die from the virus you’re trying to protect yourself from.”
If the virus is a manufactured bioweapon… why do they bother making a vaccine to do the same thing? Retard. Damn.. there it is again… I guess I’ll have to up my meds…
“why don’t you do a little research on vaccines and then try to form a knowledgeable argument.”
I have.. a LOT more than you! Here is an example:
Vaccines have saved millions if not billions of lives. While the measles vaccine can cause adverse reactions including brain damage and death – the incidence of such reactions is minute compared to the incidence of brain damage and death caused by the measles virus in unprotected hosts. See third world measles statistics for proof.
Now don’t YOU feel like a retard? Damn! I think it’s getting worse!
“or are knowledgeable arguments just too high above you?”
No, being a retard (crap!), you have misdiagnosed the real problem. You see, “knowledgeable arguments” are so “high above” people like YOU that whenever I make them all you do is call me a shill and disinfo agent. This is the primary cause of my Talkingtomoronsitis.
Yes, retard (oh f--- it), I am saying that YOU cause more brain damage than vaccines do..
Thanks for playing.
September 6th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
And there are still crass imbeciles who think government serves any purpose?
Pack a gun and pay no tax.
KarmakazeNZ Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 2:19 am
Oh yes indeed!
The only purpose I want it to serve… is to protect me from gun toting retards like you…
Other have other needs, but that will do me for now.
September 6th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
It’s time to start carrying concealed weapons people. Everywhere you go. When the s--- hits the fan you’ll be glad you’re packing heat.
oldenough Reply:
September 6th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
You will be even happier if you are carrying it LEGALLY. That’s kind of important you know.
Have you applied for your license?
Karmakaze Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 2:53 am
A license? He doesn’t need no steenkin license!
He is an AMURCAN HERO!!!!!
Rofling@you since '84 Reply:
September 6th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Good thing about living in Az. I dont have to conceal my weapons. A gun is as easy to obtain here as hookers in Las Vagas. And legal too..At one of Obamas healthcare reform tours here in Phoenix, somone had an Ar-16 strapped to his shoulder during the protest. Cops couldnt even ask him to leave.
This is the place to come when s--- finally goes down, most of the civilians already have a firearm here.
KarmakazeNZ Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 2:37 am
“At one of Obamas healthcare reform tours here in Phoenix, somone had an Ar-16 strapped to his shoulder during the protest. ”
I thought you Alex Jones tards said that didn’t happen?
Make up your minds already!
Rofling@you since '84 Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 3:58 am
No that really happen..I was there…Im sure you can youtube it..At the smaller town hall meeting for the governers many people had pistols holstered to there hip. Its common here. The last real state left.
BTW. Im not an Alex Jones Tard. I take any information from anyone with a grain of salt.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 7:15 am
OMG Thank you!
Ok, so I take it all back. I have no problem with people questioning authority – in fact I demand it… I just demand they question ALL “authority” including their heroes like Alex Jones.
Too many here don’t, and worse, attack anyone who does.
My apologies for thinking you are one of them.
Mark The True Patriot Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 6:19 am
Well You would be at home in Texas then cause even my baby sister sports an ak47
KarmakazeNZ Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 2:20 am
“It’s time to start carrying concealed weapons people. Everywhere you go. When the s--- hits the fan you’ll be glad you’re packing heat.”
Yeah, because an 45 can totally take out H1N1…
Who needs actual healthcare? Let’s just kill s--- YEEEEHHAAAAAA!!!!
September 6th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
******************************YOUR GUEST HAS (((((((NO))))))))) CRED Because he is FROM S.F.*****************************************************He will NEVER overcome that!!
September 6th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
tell that to the thousands of dead over the past 120 years..in about 20 conflicts..now if he accidently let one shell impact..sure..he may still exist. but were talking MILLIONS of innocents he refused to stop the slaughter of. including hundreds of god fearing Christians.
September 6th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Sure LET’S GO TO QUARANTINE!!!!
COME ON NWO SCUM…TAKE ME…
MY 9MM WILL HELP TAKE US ALL TO QUARANTINE…IN A F’n BLAZE OF GLORY!!!!
BRING IT!!!!
I GUARAN MOTHER f---IN T you got yours coming!!!!
KarmakazeNZ Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 2:22 am
You try to get your sick ass OUT of quarantine and I will be the first to shoot you right between the eyes.
Your death is a small price to pay to prevent MILLIONS..
So go right ahead – run from quarantine (should it ever be needed) – the gene pool could use a cleaning.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 4:01 am
Actually, the truth is, if that idiot (real vets don’t have to brag about it) ever saw the business end of a gun, the only thing running would be the urine down his pantleg.
September 6th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
The intention of this flu scare is to scare the states putting into place these preposterous laws since the feds have no power to do this themselves. Scare the people steal their freedoms… simple and it appears to be working. Since when did everyone turn into fear mongering cowards..
KarmakazeNZ Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 2:23 am
Did you know all countries, all states, all counties have quarantine laws?
They were first introduced in the days of the plague – and they’re probably the reason we aren’t extinct yet…
But hey ALEX says they’re bad so it HAS to be true, right retard?
September 6th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
ah hes holy alright – you got it right! 120 million last century and a few billion coming soon. What are these christians going to do when they are not raptured except by a bullet or a needle. I used to be christian but have since learned what bull s--- it is! Watch George Carllin – Greats bull s--- story ever sold. Go to the website http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/. God can’t heal them because he does not give a s--- or does not exist. Some sheeple need a crutch others have the strength to be good because they want to be and can stand alone with out some vapor being watching and guiding the lives-oh I forgot free will and all that horse s---. If you do something wrong it is your free will and “god” knew you were going to do that and “he” still “loves you” of course you may have killed how many or set youself on fire. What ever he ain’t doing s--- for you or anybody else.
Get over it and get your s--- together in one sock and start living on your hind legs.
Also look up Micahel Tsarian and leran you DF christian how you have been duped. Also watch and study Zetgeist.
Perosanly I hope a bunch of people take the shot- cleanse the gene pool. Some pople need killing and there a bunch of useless eaters.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 4:03 am
Read the Book Of Job…
Wait, hear me out – you’ll like this.
That book in the bible, the “unquestionable word of god” PROVES that god doesn’t exist.
Go have a read and see if you can see why.
September 6th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
http://www.youtube.com/user/eyesonly2019
September 7th, 2009 at 2:14 am
I have a far more important message for you:
God doesn’t exist, and I can prove it using ONLY the bible.
Wake up, it’s time to stop dreaming of fairies and goblins…
September 7th, 2009 at 4:38 am
I live in iowa and i can tell you that inforcement whould be a joke. The town i live in shares one cop with the town six miles away. County wise there is the sheriff and his two hillbillys.
September 7th, 2009 at 6:39 am
“IN EVERY WAY ORGANIZE NOW”
Dear rpd,
Do you remember the Martial Law drills this past July.
I am sure the U.N. CONTROLLED military personel sent to THIS country from all the
“other” countries, were the kind of people you might want to go have a beer with.
The next time “THEY” come, you can most likely bet the farm, these will be the most vicious,
murderous people The U.N. and the “ROCKERFELLAS” COULD FIND.
Military and law enforcement poised to “work side by side” with these should consider
watching “their own backs”, rather than putting “our backs” against the wall!
You might want to have a warm sit down chat with the Sheriff and “The Hatfeild” and “The Mcoy”.
Concerning this article,
I responded to “the first article” of which I bookmarked, copied to my documents and recorded
at google!
The document and format appear different than the “first article”! WHY?
check it out for yourself?
Dear A.J and crew,
I sent “you’ “you’all” SEVERAL TIMES #34. “WOLVES FROM THE SHEEP”
An indictment against MAIN STREAM MEDIA concerning “EVENT 91101″
Is “IT” not important enough to support, publish or even respond back to as a courtesy?
If “you’all” did’nt get it for one reason or another, “you” can get it at eveplebeodious.com
“WE” need to put MSM on notice; all of “THEM”
I believe “WOLVES FROM THE SHEEP” says it all. The sting on the cheek if you will.
eveplebeodious.com
Cisco d
September 7th, 2009 at 8:43 am
vist the 3rd woe web site. God Bless the world.
September 7th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Joker Vaccine Poster
http://sharebee.com/6e4a7b49
September 7th, 2009 at 10:03 am
I believe that we should be organized in every way possible. Because if it isn’t the swine flu it will be another “terrorist” attack. I am trying my best to contact other patriots and share ideas. I’d like to hear what some of you are doing.
My SOP so far is to see if they enforce mandatory vaccs. on the public. If they start running checkpoints on roads, then I will find a secluded place to establish a base camp and link up with others in the Resistance.
sarah marie Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 11:54 am
we can’t run nor hide now. technology is too advanced for that.
Karmakaze Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
“My SOP so far is to see if they enforce mandatory vaccs. on the public.”
Your standard operating procedure is to sit and wait for something? Do you know what the phrase means?
Karmakaze Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
PS…
WOLVERINES!