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H1N1 Virus: Manufactured or Result of “Human Error”?
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Infowars
May 13, 2009
Bloomberg reports that the World Health Organization is investigating a claim by an Australian researcher that the swine flu virus may have been created as a result of human error.
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| Australian researcher Adrian Gibbs (r) suggests the H1N1 virus accidentally evolved in eggs scientists use to grow viruses and drugmakers use to make vaccines. | |
In an interview, Adrian Gibbs, who collaborated on research that led to the development of Roche Holding AG’s Tamiflu drug, said he will publish a report suggesting the new strain may have accidentally evolved in eggs scientists use to grow viruses and drugmakers use to make vaccines. “One of the simplest explanations is that it’s a laboratory escape,” Gibbs told Bloomberg. “But there are lots of others.”
Last month, according to investigative journalist Wayne Madsen, a top scientist at the United Nations, who has examined the outbreak of the deadly Ebola virus in Africa, as well as HIV/AIDS victims, concluded that H1N1 possesses certain transmission “vectors” that suggest that the new flu strain has been genetically-manufactured as a military biological warfare weapon.
Madsen’s United Nations source and another in Indonesia are “convinced that the current outbreak of a new strain of swine flu in Mexico and some parts of the United States is the result of the introduction of a human-engineered pathogen that could result in a widespread global pandemic, with potentially catastrophic consequences for domestic and international travel and commerce.”
The source in Jakarta, Indonesia, said WHO officials are afraid that the presence of gene segments from the H5N1 bird flu in the A-H1N1 swine flu strain could mean that the new swine flu strain was engineered to “jump species.”
Gibbs’ speculation that the H1N1 virus was a “mistake” that occurred at a vaccine production facility is reminiscent of the Baxter scandal. In February, the pharmaceutical company Baxter International sent vaccine material contaminated with H3N2 flu viruses to 18 countries. The contaminated product, which Baxter calls “experimental virus material,” was made at a research facility in Orth-Donau, Austria.
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On May 7, Baxter confirmed that it received a strain of the swine flu virus and was “taking all of the appropriate steps necessary to prepare for a large scale vaccine production,” according to the Chicago Tribune.
Adrian Gibbs also believes the virus could have jumped from a pig to another mammal or a bird before reaching humans. Other scientists, however, believe this is extremely unlikely. The virus is made up of components from the human flu virus, avian flu virus, and swine flu virus, a combination not possible in the natural world. There are no cases of swine being infected with the H1N1 virus.
“This strain of swine influenza that’s been cultured in a laboratory is something that’s not been seen anywhere actually in the United States and the world, so this is actually a new strain of influenza that’s been identified,” Dr. John Carlo, Dallas Co. Medical Director, said last month.
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May 13th, 2009 at 9:59 am
of course it is a man made manfactured virus…its not possible for all three to combine in nature
homedawg Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 10:10 am
Wht bothers me about it is no matter how much people say” The virus is made up of components from the human flu virus, avian flu virus, and swine flu virus, a combination not possible in the natural world”;The Masses,the sheeple of the world just ignore it….The Media and their mouthpieces wont put it on the 6 o’clock news and the idiots that reside in this country just go right on being….idiots
ups@ Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 10:21 am
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Battle Hymn Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Aha! My first imposter on this site!
Battle Hymn Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 11:11 am
I hear what you’re saying and I’m on your side. What would you like people to do about it? I think we should raise awareness. We can even make demands. But even if the truth is revealed to the masses in the end, it will just end up meaning another fall-guy’s head on a platter. The true culprits always skate free. Nothing will solve these problems until the entire system of government is dismantled, and new one is built. Even then, you can just expect a new cycle to begin where the new system is eventually corrupted. Awareness is the key. That’s why they are thinking up new laws to control information over the internet. My personal approach is to explain it to friends and family, gather as much knowledge as I can, and adhere first and foremost to my own principles. Laws of government are secondary and can be defied when necessary. So if the government tells me I must take this vaccine in the fall, I can say “no”. The consequences may be beyond my control, but I can at least control my own actions. I am interested to know if you have specific and practical ideas for solutions.
Bill Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
I think one way we might be able to get a handle on all this is to get people aware that governments (which literally means controllers of mind btw) are corporate entities and what they are doing is creating rules for members of the corporaton… that is all people who have been registered with their birth certificate. Of course then, there are corporate mergers like the EU and the soon to be NAU and finally all merge into the one world govt. If we could just go back to the “dark ages” and get the rights people had then under things like the magna carta we would be free of their control. This is common law or law of the land, which basically gives you the right to live your life as a free being only subject to the law if you harm another. Things have gotten so bad that in most countries there are no longer any common law courts in operation. Here in the US for example, there are only equity courts and admirality courts – these deal with issues between corporate entities. They have no juristiction over a free being. It is a complex subject (only because they have made it so), however I think it is the one way forward that empowers the sovereign independent being. If you consider the most likely ways you come in for punishment by the “authorities” there is no victim so no crime has been committed. For example… exceeding the speed limit, refusing shots, growing your own food, owning a gun, smoking pot, not paying taxes, driving a car etc. etc. Who is the victim other than yourself in these “crimes”. This is the kernel of the issue – if you haven’t harmed another – there is no crime.
Common law gives you an absolute right to trial by jury… imagine a jury of your peers – all knowledgeable sovereign beings themselves… me thinks you would get a truly fair trial on any matter!
RR Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 11:52 am
homedawg you’re exactly correct…it was the mantra of yet another Rockefeller venture called the Nazis along the lines of the bigger and more unbelievable the lie the easier it is to pull off.
Another genocide happening while you read this is the radical environmental movement and this ethanol/global warming scam. And again its sourced in the Rockefeller founded UN with David Rockefeller’s CFR dissemenating the supporting garbage. The original “race hygiene” of Hitler lore came about based on the Rockefeller supported Margret Sanger and the American eugenics movement and its main tool was selective abortion. And now we have Davie’s minion Ziggy Brzezinski ‘advising’ anti-born alive babies Barak along with this whole DNA data base scandal along with ‘free’ government health a-hem care. So we have the name Rockefeller and genocide in yet another UN-holy marriage.
Bottom line: this is evil on a Biblical level.
http://www.THEorYofLIVEvolution.com
AlexJoneMedia Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 10:11 am
This has go to stop, Spread the truth every where. Spam youtube with Truth Videos!
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ups@ Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 10:17 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33P-GBoRZlI
homedawg Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 10:31 am
posting a link to youtube isnt going to work…you have to articulate what you are trying to say…those videos are too long for most people to bother with…thats the problem now…and information overload on people who will spend maybe 30 seconds to a minute looking at something then move on…you have to write it out in short sentences….
grock Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 11:16 am
In response to
homedawg Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 10:10 am
What medical/viral/biological expertise to you have that could validate your claim this new virus didn’t come from nature, or a like virus capable of cross infecting species couldn’t come from nature?
sweetjustice Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 11:36 am
How many people do you see screwing pigs that have just left the bird’s nest?
theTruth Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
whether or not people are screwing pigs, or chickens, or a Baxter employee with manbearpig flu is all irrelevant…
“this is a combination of multiple flu strains never before seen”
the people who read a statement like that and don’t grasp the full amount of meaning in it are nothing more than prime candidates for some form of self-inflicted eugenics…they’re too busy wandering around looking up at stuff to see the cliffs edge they’re approaching…they’re the type of people who see a gun, pick it up, and instead of checking to see if it’s loaded or if the safety is on they start looking down the barrel and playing with the trigger..
you can’t wake up those who are too stupid to realize they’re asleep
sweetjustice Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
I agree.
homedawg Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 11:46 am
I have my degree in Biology but what you are asking me reqires me to be a virologist and have access to research that particular strain,which I seriously doubt anyone on here will be/have….so i ask you…why do you doubt the statement in the story above,absent any evidence to the contrary?” “Other scientists, however, believe this is extremely unlikely. The virus is made up of components from the human flu virus, avian flu virus, and swine flu virus, a combination not possible in the natural world”"…so,first,where did I say anything about ” or a like virus capable of cross infecting species couldn’t come from nature”?..I see nothing in my post even coming close to saying that?…ANY virus is capable of cross infecting species…that,in fact is ne of the three requirements for a pathogen to qualify for Plague status…the “1st jump” of a plague REQUIRES a jump from one species to another….the 2nd REQUIRES a jump from animal to man…you like to knock peoples posts down without offering anything in return,yes?
cheeseburger Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
I will grant you this: The notion that companies would commit horrific crimes against humanity in the name of reaping huge profits is certainly not out of the realm of possibility- and documented cases of evil corporations doing same abound. Two such cases come to mind. The first involves Chinese baby formula manufacturers. Here scientists discovered that a toxic chemical called melamine would mimic protein during chemical testing, effectively fooling the testing equipment into thinking the formula met required protein content. This case led to thousands of sick and dead babies….babies, for God’s sake!
Another such case involved European company Nestle back in the 1970’s. Here the company duped third world mother’s into falsely believing formula was better than breast milk for their babies, despite the fact that access to clean drinking water for mixing the formula did not exist. This practice continued with thousands of babies becoming sick from tainted formula mixed with dirty water. Babies died of typhoid, malaria and other diseases. Despite these facts Nestle continued to push formula in these developing countries.
So, yes, I would believe based on these two cases and thousands of similar ones, that corporations will go to desperate lengths to ensure their relevancy and profitability- even if it results in mass death and hysteria. This is where government’s duty is to closely regulate these companies is vital; this process is desperately lacking, I suspect based on the lack of oversight with regard to Wall street, mortgage companies, FDA sanction of harmful prescriptions, etc. to name a few.
Chris Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Man, really now……this swine flu has been around for along time it just now jumped from pigs to humans. I’m sorry I dig the show, but Alex needs to quit fear mongering. Really now….we’ve known about this flu since the 70’s. It just progressed, its also weaker then the normal flu. The kill ratio in a modern society has so far shown that it is weaker then the seasonal flu. This whole flu scare is being helped by Jones……
chevs911truth Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
If sheeple dont wake up soon, we are all finished. http://beyondbelief.weebly.com/
Dave Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Hell, I was saying this the day the news came out. Especially with all the hype and scare surrounding it those first few days. Like that one basterd said “Never let a crisis go to waste”. I can’t help thinking also in their minds it gos something like this as well, “and if we don’t have a crisis, hell, lets make one!”
daveb Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
You guys are still taliking about all three. It’s two kinds of swine flu recombined only, and as Gibbs suggests this recombination could have taken place in a laboratory. He says it was likely a mistake. I don’t necessarily think he is right there.
The people that are talking about three types of flu are still intentionally or unintentionally spreading disinfo. Do your research before you shoot your mouth off.
uchikoma Reply:
May 14th, 2009 at 4:08 am
It is possible for the three types of flu virus to mix in nature. However it is the fact that they have asian bird flu, european human flu and american strain swine flu in the novel flu that is impossible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 13th, 2009 at 10:02 am
on accident, of course.
May 13th, 2009 at 10:07 am
camels—-exactly. ray charles can see it was -”man-made”- and I use that term loosely.
May 13th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Yeah like life it’s so simple it’s accidental.
May 13th, 2009 at 10:15 am
http://www.sott.net/
May 13th, 2009 at 10:20 am
It was intentionally made to look accidental.
This was just to get us primed,the next will be much worse in order to get us away from our guns with forced relocations and evictions.
May 13th, 2009 at 10:28 am
20/20 had a show 8 years back that you can buy custom VIrus manufacturing kits off the internet. Anyone can make a designer virus but its virtual impossible to make people better or stop viruses from spreading.
May 13th, 2009 at 10:31 am
The w.h.o. said last week on cnn that they had a few flu’s lined up.
May 13th, 2009 at 10:31 am
OK we changed
http://www.sott.net/image/imag.....081111.jpg
Let’s just finish this…
May 13th, 2009 at 10:36 am
oh well that makes it alright then since it was only a accident…….. NOT!!!
they are like little kids when they say things like this, if it was accident like they say, they shouldnt be anywhere near deadly shit like the rest of the stuff they have in their labs.
May 13th, 2009 at 10:53 am
“Accidentally evolved…”?
Just like when they “accidentally” deposited the AIDS virus into Bayer Aspirin and shipped it to third world countries. Damn eugenicists. God help us if the small pox virus “accidentally” escapes their murderous laboratories.
WHAMMO! Reply:
May 14th, 2009 at 9:03 am
How exactly do you fuck a Bayer aspirin tablet? AIDS is sexually transmitted you dolt.
May 13th, 2009 at 10:54 am
WHen mandatory forced vacinations are forced upon the citizens do not believe for one second that the shots politicians will publically take for the media cameras is the same vacine that will be distributed to the masses. In fact you can also logically conclude that these NWO evil killers will most likely place intentionally contaminated vacines within the millions of doses and intentionally kill a pre-agreed percentage of doses administered in many different states to control the death rate in the areas they choose. They could use this military bio weapon to kill exactly who they deem the most threat to their future NWO luceferian vison by using genetic markers and most of all they can kill at a later date of their choosing all those that have been inoculated with the antivirus. It is the fact that this weapons was designed to do what it is doing is the main reason we should further investigate and do what is necessary to bring the guilty to justice once and for all.
Battle Hymn Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Hypothetical: Let’s say you wanted to rid the world of patriot types. You know…right wing extremists. So you come up with a relatively harmless flu and create a huge media buzz about it. Then you leak tidbits of info here and there about vaccines. You monitor the right wing sites to gage the perceptions. You see that the patriots will refuse the vaccine when the time comes. So you go to work on a much more deadly strain of the virus, and the legitimate vaccine. Later during flu season, you release the deadly strain and offer the vaccine. You give everyone the choice of being quarantined under government supervision (i.e. fema camp), or take the vaccine. As a patriot, you now have three options:
1 – take your chances with a vaccine you believe may actually be a deadly dose of virus.
2 – take your chances in a fema camp
3 – take your chances with breaking the law, with fleeing/tricking/escaping forced vaccination, and with having no immunity to a deadly pandemic
Just a hypothetical. All I’m saying is don’t find yourself backed into a corner. Have some options and keep your eyes and ears open.
cheeseburger Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
…or, knowing most ‘right-wing’ conspirators will resist the vaccine it becomes easier to freely vaccinate those wishing to survive and allow the rest to contract the viruses- including the ‘patriots’ hiding in their caves. You have to be careful when making crude assumptions such as this because logic can be manipulated in many directions. Sorry for adding to your already heightened paranoia, I couldn’t resist…
Battle Hymn Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
There’s no paranoia here. I just like to think of all of the possibilities before hand so I can hope for the best and prepare for the worst. I’m actually quite comfortable with my own well being in the event of forced vaccinations, martial law, etc. It’s others whom I hope are planning with forethought.
BTW, your scenario is pretty much what I described above.
evangelist Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
The Lord is the only One to stop all this madness. Truly the nwo will not take us all out. It looks bad now , but whatever they come up with it will be twarted.
May 13th, 2009 at 11:09 am
And even in the face of an obvious truth, the NWO and minions set up another Bullshit bomb to drop on the ignorant. Stop the bomb, create more education, the only defense against disinformation bombing!
May 13th, 2009 at 11:17 am
I’m in my late 40s and three years ago noticed that viruses had changed, in terms of how they came through our home, how they affected the kids vs. the adults, etc. I mentioned this to my doc — who is brilliant AND onto the NWO — and wondered out loud if some ugly stuff was being put out there on purpose.
He just nodded, then shook his head. When MDs are seeing it, you know it’s trouble.
May 13th, 2009 at 11:43 am
This isn’t spam, but read the book “Dr.Mary’s Monkey” by Edward T. Haslam. Interesting, true story, and it was almost 50 years ago. You can goggle it also.
May 13th, 2009 at 11:46 am
I’m waiting for my prison planet forum application to go through,,,,but until then,, Alex, please check out BLIP TV’S, “Jordan maxwell debunked.” from tsarioniswrong. I know you like truth and this guy does a great job of breaking things down. They also have a film “rant to the truth movement” This does not debunk anything you have said but adds to it,,,, Awsome. The Alex Jones Show looks amazing on this site too. Thanks
May 13th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Just got my “tyranny response team” hat and my bumper stickers. they sent me a couple extra stickers too. probably a mistake. but i’m not complaining. thanks infowars.
pro freedom Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
me too I ordered ‘resist the nwo t-shirt, and got 2 extra bumper stickers
May 13th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Be ready to fight-off forced innoculations.
In fact, i’m gonna intro some legislastion for my town next meeting, to initiate a vote for freewill- to SUPERCEDE the now f’r'd-up Constitution.
That’l fix their shift.
They will have to use the zip, (artillary designation)- codes…
DON’T TREAD ON ME
May 13th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Anyone Read This??
http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-.....RSS_PUBLIC
HEY Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Nice! Proof that cannot be refuted! Thank you!
May 13th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Tired of being messed with? Me too! Heelllloooo, this is OUR country! If we give the government their power, we can certainly take it back. Our country’s system our forefathers created is the best you’ll find ANYWHERE! All we need to do is follow it. We have a voice no matter how much “they” say we do not. Don’t believe their lies! We are THE PEOPLE! Our country needs us, our fellow man needs us! Wake people up, offer solutions, and never never never give up!
http://www.warnthepeople.org
dbk Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Yea those are some nice ‘I had a dream’ speeches you give but your preaching to the choir in here.
Why don’t you get your fuckin ass off this site and spam somewhere where people are not aware of what’s going on.
May 13th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
I’m not going to pretend I am a biologists, but from my basic understanding of biology, business, evil, and how the world works, I believe this H1N1 was man made.
The gut feeling I get when I hear that Usama bin Laden simulatiously coordinating attack’s against the U.S.A from a cave in Afghanistan is the same feeling I get when I hear that this virus jumped from a pig to ‘Rodriguez’ the farmer in outback Mexico.
May 13th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Who the hell is controlling these mad “scientist/eugenicists”? Shouldn’t the “Governments” be looking into these Frankensteinian laboratories, and shut them down? Too many “accidents”! Oh, never mind, gotta go report this family-owned organic farm down the way. I think they’re not using Monsanto seeds, and I know they’re not spraying chemicals everywhere. Tsk, tsk. Seig Heil for now!
May 13th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSmVmg544_0
May 13th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
I agree that this is probably man-made. What I don’t understand is how many of you automatically shout out that these “people” are satanists/luciferians. Come on people. Religion in itself is a lie designed specifically to control the masses. Darwinism sounds more logical than religion. Don’t get me wrong. I beleive in a higher-power or force, but not the white-bearded white man on a throne in the clouds. Bollocks.
Fight the Power, and yes, that includes organized religions. Believe in love. That’s all you need to go on.
HEY Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Right on!
May 13th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
The “governments” already know that this “swine flu” is manufactured. It was released on the public to see how we would respond and how well it would spread, and also to track mortality rates. This was a test. Next time they will release something deadlier. Nice of ‘em, huh?
May 13th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
The engineers of this viral attack really give themselves away not only by producing such an unlikely designer virus, but also by predicting exactly when and how this pandemic is supposed to play out. Thank God they are not gods, but fallible humans, these eugenicists. Christians are called to repent and pray that God will heal our land. Our mortal efforts only go so far.
I got very sick after a flu shot over ten years ago and have never had one since, nor do I plan to. It was a doctor who suggested that the shot made me sick. I thought it would be the end of me, but prayer, my cat Fantasia, and an improved diet pulled me through. But most of all, it was prayer that brought me back to health.
If my people who are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. (2 Chronicles 7:14)
May 13th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Anybody in the medical field at this point is, at best, substandard. They weed out the honest, smart, honorable, upstanding and have the lying, dishonest minions who will do their bidding.
Be VERY WARY of the medical field.
May 13th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
When will we as a a people, and as individuals, turn back to God? Bible prophecy is being fulfilled. The Bible predicts a global dictatorship at the end of the age, before Jesus comes back to set up His Kingom of Love. The Bible predicts that many will die from various plagues. It does NOT say that those plagues were sent by God, or whether they are man made or “natural”
Put that Bible prophecy, which WILL come to pass, together with something Prince Phillip, the father of Prince Charles said a number of years ago, that if he was reincarnated, he would like to come back as a deadly virus and wipe out half of the world’s population. THAT is the intent of the global elites – the Royal Family in England, on down – to wipe out a large portion of the world’s population, create one global crisis after another, and take control. What they are not counting on, though, is that Jesus will come and put and end to their rule shortly therafter.
So, let’s turn back to God, as a people and as individuals, and repent of our individual, national, and corporate sins, asking God for mercy and grace, and protection so that we may be spared of the global holocaust.
9 Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Where the hell is this god?
Where has he been for all the centuries on misery?
Ray Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Where is he? He doesn’t exist, but that doesn’t mean that the Devil or Satan does either. They are all man-made stories. Like good and evil; light and darkness; yin and yang. Why are we to follow a god that uses fear to keep us in line? i would think that a decent god would promote love and respect and that those who live along the lines of human compassion will be administered into the “kingdom”. Don’t try to scare me into loving You.
Pray all you want. God will not answer your prayers. That’s not how He rolls, apparently. The Church is in itself a blasphemy. Look at all the trinkets and statues of gold, the riches of the church…I thought that vanity and material objects were sinful, more so if you are taking your riches from the poor, the weak, the vulnerable and, let’s face it, the naive.
I won’t be praying when the shit hits the fan. I’ll be resisting the power hungry S.o.B. NWO.
peace and love.
cheeseburger Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
God is real, and he exists. The problem is you must earnestly seek him out for him to become real to you. Some people are so used to being spoon fed everything from news and sitcoms to reliance on self-inflated idiots like Alex Jones or Kurt Nimmo for setting reality for you. Unfortunately God does not grow in minds fertilized with hatred, jealousy and fear. As a garden oasis must have certain conditions to thrive, so too does God’s message in a man’s heart.
As to ‘God using fear to keep us in line?’ This is simply not true. Man rejected God’s attempts to show mankind how his way leads to peace and prosperity, a world described in the bible as one where ‘lions lay down next to sheep.’ Instead, mankind chose to ‘go it alone’ and God has separated himself from us- allowing us to live our own ‘freewill’. This is why evil and injustice prospers today. In order to find God you must seek him with the right frame of mind and be willing and open to his message.
I do agree that most religious ‘organizations’ are blasphemous as you state. This is simply because man is using every concept within his grasp in order to turn away from God and, unfortunately religion is no exception. I too am sickened by wealthy church leader’s who would rather drive by homeless people, splashing muddy water on them with their Cadillacs than taking them in and practicing the loving gospel Jesus’ preached. You are right to be angry with these false messenger’s as this behavior represents the height of blasphemy.
cheeseburger Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
…Ray. It is vitally important that you not cut yourself off to the concept of God in your life. For God spends our whole lives subtly trying to have a relationship with us. This is one reason our lives are filled with ups and downs. All life’s experiences present ways for us to turn to him with our concerns, fears, ideas, etc. The danger in choosing not to interact with God is that you may become labeled as what he calls ‘chaff’, which is the by-product of wheat production. In other words God expects that a certain number of human souls will not live spiritually productive lives, fail to respond to his attempts at a relationship or in seeking him and as a result will fall away from his promises like chaff from wheat or peels from an orange, if you will. These human ’seeds’ will not grow into productive fruit, and therefore will be disposed of as such. Do not become that person. Instead, reject all human ideas about God and find out what he is about for yourself, personally. I have found him or her to be very dynamic and beyond any experience I have ever had. The lessons I have learned since my’ transformation’ have been incredible. I try to interact as often daily as I can in an attitude of humility, as the created should approach one’s creator.
I only offer this advice through personal experience. During the death of my son, like you I went through periods where I questioned HIS existence and his motives in my life. At one point I began challenging him to reveal himself in my life. Things got so bad I used to pray he would take my life as well. At one point, I was alone fly-fishing. Perched on a rock in the middle of the river, I began to taunt God. I begged him to reveal himself to me or to just end the charade that my life as I saw it was becoming. I accused him of not loving me or my son and choosing to let him die instead of taking what I thought would be simple steps to save his life. What happened next I will never forget. In about a 20 foot circle around me snow began to fall. The rest of the river was sunny and breezy, except for this area around me. I began laughing and crying hysterically and as soon as my heart began to soften the snow turned quickly to rain. And, as quickly as it started it ended. I was soaked. I knew something had happened because on my way back to the truck a guy stopped me and asked me if I was ok. I said yes and asked him why. He said I looked as though I had fallen into the river. I was soaking wet and, apparently looking very pale and scared.
This point marked the day I began to actually believe in a living God as opposed to what I mostly believed was more like hocus-pocus prior to that time. Bottom line- no human alive knows why things happen the way they do. The only thing we can be certain of is that if we continue to seek the one who created us and believe in his power to give life and take it away, along with constantly striving to become better people we are GUARANTEED to be invited to join HIM in a land with streets paved in gold, free from all suffering and injustice. Clearly, this promise is made with the intent of having us struggle through our pathetic lives. Being forced to rely on HIM for guidance versus taking security in our own stupidity in the form of limited protection offered by our own technically ‘advanced’ society. For this life is but temporary. Hope this helps.
May 13th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
MR. Gibbs, you have shone light on the rats nest as well as Alex Jones.
Thank you! Now the public and those afraid of knowing the truth will take note.
May 13th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
I said it was a man made concoction in the begining. When the news said is was a combination of three different strains I knew it had to be man made. The likely hood of these three viruses meeting in nature and then mutating into a virus with three different sets of genetics are very, very, very rare. It is possible but not probable. Its more likely that bird flu and swine would of mixed, maybe even swine and human or bird and human but not all three especially this quick and being able to spread across the globe. Sorry there is too many coincedences.
If it is man made, get your money back because it didnt really do anything. If we saw a kill rate of 50% or higher then you should be scared.
May 13th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
New discovery!
Let T = sum of unfunded liabilities including medicaid, medicare, social security = $50 trillion U.S.
Let P = pandemic
T minus P = zero
T-P=0
!!!!!!!
problem solved!
Next challenge, why can’t people pass out freebies at the mall…. hmmmm…
May 13th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Kurt, I’ve read and heard 14 countries but 18 labs, so please let’s find out the correct details!
May 13th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Correction,
T + P = 0
I’m not as smart as my uncle, Albert…
May 13th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Oopsie!
The truth seeps out.
May 13th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
OK so this one is clearly man made but is proving to be a lot less virulent and deadly than the hype around it suggest.
Now they’re making lefthanded admissions about it possibly being man made and that it may have been released from a lab and putting everyone into a false sense of security.
Makes one wonder what is waiting in the wings for the next round of ramping up the tension and expanding the control grid.
May 13th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
this a messege to alll american we are the people, not we are the stupid.fellows american this is the time to fight and stop the beast before we are weak.america needs to stand up not live in your kneess.fran from mexico and fuck the union shit…………………..
May 13th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
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May 13th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Bloomberg reporting this!!
Ha Ha!! Mainstream media hates you Baxter!!
You must have made one of their elite employees sick.
May 13th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
…………On May 7, Baxter confirmed that it received a strain of the swine flu virus and was “taking all of the appropriate steps necessary to prepare for a large scale vaccine production,” according to the Chicago Tribune.
I’m bending over!! Give me the shot Baxter.
I know you have my best interest at heart.
Baa Baa
May 13th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
ya…ya…ya…even I knew this.
May 13th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
If the Frankenstein doctors would stop screwing with bacteria, viruses, and cutting up animals (they use the puss of dead animals to grow the vaccine cultures), and all their other barbaric practices we wouldn’t have AIDS or any of the other MONSTERS THEY’VE MADE IN THEIR FRANKENSTEIN LABS AND HAVE UNLEASHED AND GETTING READY TO UNLEASH MORE ON US.
The Word Health Organization spread AIDS all throughout the third-world countries with their creepy vaccines.
Remember, what they plan on doing to us, they’ve been doing to animals for years in their creepy labs, lying and calling it “science,” when it is not. And no, it’s not a matter of us vs. animals. The fact is no being on earth should be subject to these murderers, pedophiles and satanists, and that is exactly what they are.
Also remember that the ONLY hope is Jesus Christ. But we must be prepared to survive the coming onslaught which is NOW HERE FOLKS.
May 13th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Len Horowitz, member of the Kn1ghts 0f Ma!ta; has a creepy pic on his website showing him holding an owl (Moloch, Minerva?); check it out:
May 13th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
PLEASE BUY MORE GUNS !!!!!! FOR SAFETY !!!!!!!!!
dbk Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
why?
May 13th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
All of you conspiracy theorists are a hoot. This article is flawed leading to the wrong conclusions. Accept that the emergence of this virus is a natural occurrence. You want final proof of this — see if the report gets published in a peer-reviewed journal — it will NOT!!!!
dbk Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Yea you got it figured out there loser.
Over The Target Reply:
May 14th, 2009 at 4:23 am
if the delusional sheeple won’t believe peer reviewed demolition papers, why would believe any others?
/rhetorical
yellowhak1 Reply:
May 14th, 2009 at 10:36 am
WRONG like they’d ever allow it unless they had a scapegoat like that bevins scientist who supposably suicided himself. haven’t you noticed their able to cover up, distort, twist the truth into lies or half truths or flat out admit to it only when it serves their purpose? theres always truth to every lie. it can’t always be just a conspiracy. what next, horse flu?
May 13th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Hey lets just blame the Mexicans.. We can say “they are terrorist and They Attacked us” by infecting Mexico so it would find its way over to US. sounds real enough.
May 13th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
you can’t wake up those who are too stupid to realize they’re asleep, Gringos Pendejos
May 14th, 2009 at 12:04 am
I think it’s fairly obvious at this point that this virus was created. Could it happen in nature? Maybe in the sense that ANYTHING is possible, sure. But I think we can all agree that it has to be fact that this virus was engineered. Whether it was released purposely or on accident is some other issue I won’t go into. Here’s something I haven’t heard though. Where is the CDC in all of this mess? They’re the ones that investigate it to patient zero. And apparently, they seem to have found this patient zero, a small boy. But we haven’t heard the development of the story. Surely his body did not create it so where did he get it from? From his pig farm? Possible? Yes! Likely… not really!! I believe, in accordance with the way they operate, that they are either still tracking it or hit a brick wall in the form of the big guys upstairs telling them “NO!” Either way, the CDC has a responsibility too the citizens of the U.S. to divulge this information post haste. nuff said
May 14th, 2009 at 8:15 am
I left a reply, where the fuck is it ?
May 14th, 2009 at 10:28 am
they just reported this story today 5-14 they played the austrian scientist off the other scientist something about it being probable but highly unlikely. wtf!
May 15th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
It’s nice to see so many great minds in one place….you are all worth way more than what you seem….
May 25th, 2009 at 4:15 am
What do you all think about how the “A” flu (H1N1) comes out in Mexico in the test context of the RFID chips on humans for medical features?
May 25th, 2009 at 9:51 am
I think it’s all just a part of the coming apocalypse, the mayans predicted things like this new virus a few thousand years ago and if you just look at all the signs it’s sooooooooo obvious. You can read more at: http://www.2012-doomsday.com