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    Infowars
    April 24, 2009

    At 4 minutes 25 seconds into this video, the Secretary of States compares the eugenics advocate and racist Margaret Sanger to Thomas Jefferson. In fact, she seems to think Jefferson was a lesser person than Sanger because he held slaves.

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    During discussion with Congressman Jeff Fortenberry, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton praises Margaret Sanger.

    Are we to assume Hillary wants to kill Africans and African-Americans?

    In 1939, Clinton’s heroine said:

    “We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social service backgrounds and with engaging personalities … We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population.”

    There is a straight line from Sanger and the eugenicists and the Nazis.

    “Several prominent families are responsible for funding and promoting eugenics in America, namely the Rockefeller, Carnegie, Harriman, and Osborn families,” writes Daniel Taylor. “Two families, the Rockefellers and the Osborns, are particularly significant. John D. Rockefeller Sr. contributed a large amount of money to build the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory in the early 1900’s, which housed the Eugenics Records Office from 1910-1944. Rockefeller influence also spread overseas to Germany, where the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Psychiatry, and the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Eugenics, Anthropology and Human Heredity resided. Much of the money used to run these facilities came from Rockefeller. These institutes became centers for Nazi eugenics programs during the reign of Adolf Hitler.”

    Martin Barillas wrote for Spero News on March 27, 2009:

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is set to receive the highest award given by Planned Parenthood Federation of America — the Margaret Sanger Award, named for the organization’s founder, a noted eugenicist. The award will be presented at a gala event in Houston, Texas this evening. Co-hosting the event will be America Ferreira, the lead on the “Ugly Betty” television show, and PPFA President Cecile Richards.

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    Margaret Sanger, a former Catholic, founded Planned Parenthood in 1916 and was notable during the eugenics movement that with its pseudo-science influenced state legislature and local jurisdictions to neuter young people deemed racially unfit. Nazi Germany’s racial policies and extermination of Jews and so-called “life not fit for life” were also influenced by the movement and the lead organization – the American Eugenics Society.

    Marjorie Dannenfelser, President of the Susan B. Anthony List, a prolife organization spoke about Secretary Clinton and her acceptance of the Sanger Award. Said Dannenfelser, “If Secretary Clinton were fully aware of the eugenicist past of Margaret Sanger, I cannot believe that she would be accepting an award in her name. It is in fact shocking that the award still bear’s Sanger’s name.”

    Sanger broadly supported the Eugenics movement, advocating for a superior race that was free of poor, immigrant, and minority citizens. She even spoke at a rally of the Klu Klux Klan. Despite this evidence, Planned Parenthood, the nation’s leading abortion provider, has done little to distance itself from Sanger’s legacy.”

    Last year’s controversy involving a Planned Parenthood employee accepting donations earmarked specifically for the abortion of African American children draws attention to an important reality for the nation’s largest abortion provider. Planned Parenthood Federation of America needs to be very careful to steer clear of any appearance of adhering to Sanger’s pro-eugenics philosophy. And this ought to begin by renaming their highest award.”

    Some quotes of Margaret Sanger illustrate her attitudes towards race and eugenics,

    “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members” (Sanger’s letter to Clarence J. Gamble, 1939, December)

    Margaret Sanger referred to immigrants and Catholics as reckless breeders, writing in her book, Pivot of Civilization, “[They're] an unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all.” (Sanger, p.187).

    “The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it,” Margaret Sanger wrote in her 1920 book Women and the New Race (Sanger, p. 63).

    Last year an Idaho Planned Parenthood employee was disciplined for accepting a donation earmarked for the abortion of African Americans. According to a transcript of the call, Autumn Kersey, vice president of development and marketing for Planned Parenthood of Idaho, took a call from an actor saying he wanted his money to be used to eliminate unborn black babies because “the less black kids out there the better.” Kersey responded: “Understandable, understandable. … Excuse my hesitation, this is the first time I’ve had a donor call and make this kind of request, so I’m excited and want to make sure I don’t leave anything out.”

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    356 Responses to “Hillary Clinton Compares Margaret Sanger to Thomas Jefferson”

    1. NOPE Says:

      FIRST!!!!!!!

      Texan Reply:

      You are a dork.

      DIY Reply:

      There’s only two government agencies mentioned in the Constitution: DIY and TRT

      Do It Yourself and Tyranny Response Team

      lol

      Texas native Reply:

      i know from another point of view it seems that all americans are idiots to what is really going on. this is mostly true. but there are some of us who truly believe in freedom, and our constitution and want a better way to do things, we are not all completely brain dead. but i see it everyday, and it makes me want to kill myself. because this world is sickening. but at the same time, i know damn well i was meant to lead and fight for what is right, even against all odds, i will fight to the death in any situation to help free man-kind. i can only hope there are enough of us out there who are willing to go the extra LONG MILE to the end. by the time i am an old man, id like to be well known for saving humanity against tyranny. that is a personal goal and dream of mine. Let us stand agianst what is being forced upon us, from old aging tyrannts, trying to make their last impression upon the world that has seen enough of his ways, and be united under the belief that we are all free people that deserve rights, no matter what you believe. of course there will be laws, and yes taxes, but all regulated fairly. not the system you see today. thats bulls---.
      STAND AND UNITE THIS COUNTRY TO ITS ORIGINS, then worry about the rest of the world…
      how can we save them, or even worry about them when we are in shambles, this country is falling apart, and normal everyday people are part of its destruction and they cant see it. seriously, look outside of yourself and your everyday “problems” and ask yourself, “does this really matter? why do i worry so much about money? why do i complain about pointless policies when the real problem is the people who implement them? why do i worry who is on facebook right now? or what im missing on tv?” f--- all that, look at yourself as a human being, what do you really need. all that s--- in your house, or the people around you? your family, yourself! why are people so concerned about there social life, people actually kill themselves over EMBARRASEMENT in school! WoW! social reform people, start anew. and KILL REALITY TV PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!! i beg of you!!!!!!!! American idol is a show for the dumbMassess!!!!! wake up SHEEPLE HEADS!!!!!
      there is so much more i could say, but who would notice……

      Honor-bound Reply:

      I hear your words and see through your eyes Texas!

      The silent majority is preparing and with each small contribution like your patriotic thoughts, we push back against the government wall of traitors.

      “Come and take it” was a slogan used in the Texas Revolution in 1835

      Arkansas transplant Reply:

      Texas Native, unity is what is lacking. having been in the shadows of this movement for many years before oaklahoma city’s false flag operation and observing the fragmentation of the freedom movement that was accomplished by media propaganda of that event. This obvious fragmentation has lead me to believe that most alleged patriots are weak in thier character, philosophy and bodies . They are seeking leadership and affraid to even speak up when needed. I commend you for your writing your stance, how many have you personaly affected, appraoch strangers, walk up and spread the truth. Fear is what is the speed bump in our movement, fear of offending someone and losing friends when sharing the truth. I am glad you chose to be a leader but expect to be alone and prepare for the worst case scenerio. Do not stop your efforts.

      Washington Reply:

      The changing of the times will only be when the entire military finally realizes and understands that each of them took an oath to defend “The Constitution” from all enemies foreign and domestic. Again, they took an oath to protect the “Constitution” not the agenda of any political party, or the bankers interest, or the peace of the world.

      The founding fathers were very adamant about a simple foundation, ” Talk and trade with all, and entangled alliances with NO ONE !!!
      Yet, today we are so entangled with so many countries, that we don;t even address this country’s issues, we address the world’s issues.

      Without good unity and organization, there’s truly not alot will ever be done. The bankers have separated, with division, the population very well.

      Lovely Lady Reply:

      Marjorie Dannenfelser, President of the Susan B. Anthony List, a prolife organization spoke about Secretary Clinton and her acceptance of the Sanger Award. Said Dannenfelser, “If Secretary Clinton were fully aware of the eugenicist past of Margaret Sanger, I cannot believe that she would be accepting an award in her name. It is in fact shocking that the award still bears Sanger’s name.”

      Clinton knows what Margaret Sanger is and always has and continues to support this sick women and her beliefs because they are her beliefs.

      Simon Simpleton Reply:

      Lol!

      mikefrommerck Reply:

      Bill clinton was once uaoted saying ” Hillary has eaten more p***Y than I have” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page hyperinflation is coming

      51 Reply:

      please miss bilderburg tool. p;ease ask me again how it going to end. please. see you in the near future

      51 Reply:

      if the third lil pig made his house out of bricks and we put our money into banks then why are we bailing out WALL st?

      51 Reply:

      how come court rooms look like churches? and judges sit on a bench (latin for bank) and wear robes kinda like the black pope? why is there a white pope and a black pope?

      shut up and fight back Reply:

      you might not beleive this but. the catholic church architecture is actually a extremlly powerful occult symbol. as it smmons evil and demons. (the architecture of it represent a demon forteress).—no wonder there is so much evil on our world. we summoned it,without even knowing.

      Mike Reply:

      shut up and fight back,

      See my comments below, which debunk the claims that the Catholic Church’s worship practices are evil.

    2. Texan Says:

      It is amazing that Hillary can stand up for racist eugenics in a country dedicated to ” … the right to Life, Liberty, and the persuit of Happiness.”

      KleptoPsychotic Reply:

      Right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Sounds like Al-Queda talk to me, Texan. No, you have the right to be dominated by crooked, dickhead cops, to shut up until spoken to, and when spoken to, to only say what your masters want you to think.

      Right to life? Abortion. Right to Liberty? IRS, Social Security tax, CAFR, PATRIOT Act. Pursuit of Happiness? Well, as long as you’re happy being jerked around like a piece of cattle, having “your” government know everything about you at all times, and having 60% of your pay go directly into funding the most massive government that has ever existed on planet Earth, then have fun pursuing that happiness. But if that makes you unhappy… or dare I say MAD AS HELL, well then they’ve got a cozy little cell for you, and some lovely SSRI’s to MAKE you happy.

      Texas native Reply:

      hahaha, ahhh, what a life perspective…

      Future Revolutionary Reply:

      Just wanted to make sure you all know that “pursuit of happiness” really means the owning of slaves and property. But, rather than discuss the topic of slavery, it was omitted and replaced with “pursuit of happiness”.

      Therefore, the founding fathers could avoid the problems and disdain associated with slavery.

      homedawg Reply:

      hillary is a drone…period

      Georgette Orwell Reply:

      It makes perfect sense that Hilary applauds Sanger. She, as with Sanger, is a eugenicist. And she can applaud Sanger’s evil openly because most Americans are completely unaware of the origins of Planned Parenthood and the evil for which it stands.
      Google eugenics…

      ok Reply:

      Thomas Jefferson freed all his slaves. Most of them knew better than to leave the safe heaven of the Jefferson farm. Hillery Clinton is a demon from HELL

    3. Harry Says:

      This must stop!

      Simon Simpleton Reply:

      It won’t! Anglo racist mental illness is inbred.

      ProphetPX Reply:

      BEWARE! That (”Anglo racist mental illness is inbred”) is also a point of view which is borne straight out of Eugenics itself! Saying that anything is INBRED which is mental illness … is a Eugenics point of view. Anti-Eugenics (pro-LIFE) would emphasize that every creation of God has a right to life and to make their own way, no matter what any other man (or female filth in the case of Margaret Sanger) thinks.

    4. Harry Says:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page

    5. Saint Shannon Says:

      What really makes me sick is that Hillary and her kind can rip a baby from its womb and smile about it and be nice too.

      Outragedmom Reply:

      Boring!

      ProphetPX Reply:

      who or what is more boring? Someone (like the article author, or Saint Shannon who YOU replied to!) who actually has something to say? Or someone who has NOTHING intelligent to offer and merely shouts “Boring!”

      I agree with Saint Shannon. It’s amazing to me, given Hillary’s views (which are woefully and suspciously similar to Sanger’s), that Chelsea Clinton was ever even born in the first place. But perhaps bearing Chelsea was a mistake, OR perhaps bearing another child would have been just one more “useless eater” upon the Earth (according to the Clinton’s views), therefore they only had 1 child?

      Overworld Reply:

      I agree 100%. This article also seems to imply that abortion is ok as long as it’s not connected to eugenics, which is absurd because there is no difference, the author of this article apparently can’t connect the dots.

      Aeronautical Engineer Reply:

      Duh,

      thats why none of the stooges on the infowars staff put their name on it….

      shut up and fight back Reply:

      this is an infowars news. you to take and leave it sometime.

      im not saying what he is telling is wrong. but for a fact it is made up. so watch out. don’t eat all infowars and prisonplanet news.

      ive seen this on a secret files on a game. wich explain the idea behind putting real evidence and mixing with false. if you do this well. people will eventualy stop researching as they will be tired to find out that most of it is made up.(maybe its true. but still its made up)

      its like…one guy come and make jokes about the claasified documents or info.(to cover the thing up and spark curious people to ask questions and search about it.

      after that they put a hardcore researcher that come out of nowhere and start getting credit for all these classified info. at first they tell the truth,then they try to distort it or debunk part of it. to make you wonder on who side this guy really is,ultimatly he try to make it appear hoax-like and out of this world. in a effort to make both fake and real info being disreagarded as hoax or unimportant. —–alan colmes,gleen beck,etc… at one point i would have thought AJ would be there as well. but AJ did not pop up out of nowhere, he have been around here for quite a long time. he looks more like a rogue IAIS agent. XD

    6. Sgt. Spline Says:

      What is perhaps more interesting in this case, is that she accepted the award while holding the highest diplomatic post in the nation and her boss is of mixed racial lines. I’m not up on everything Margaret Sanger believed or advocated, but I’m pretty sure that being of mixed race would have been a big no-no in Sanger’s book. I wonder what the President would have to say about this…and then again, I doubt he would have anything to say publicly about this affront to common decency.

      Overworld Reply:

      Equal opportunity genocide.

    7. Saint Shannon Says:

      What religion was Margaret Sanger? if any, Humanist? Does anyone know?

      Billy Reply:

      She was an atheist. Surprised?

      uchikoma Reply:

      Idiot, most of us atheists follow the basic themes of christianity.
      Just we don’t need the mystical bulls---.

      Atheist = Dont f*ck people over.
      Religeous = Dont f*ck people over lest ye are besmacked upside the head by satan for all eternity, ye sinner yeeee.

      Texas native Reply:

      i like laughing at funny things! haha

      also Reply:

      uchikoma, you forgot for Religious:

      but f**k people over anyway, cos you can always be pardoned! That’s what confessions are for!

      Overworld Reply:

      Please name one positive contribution that Atheism has given to Humanity, something tangible.

      Jerome Reply:

      Science.

      Overworld Reply:

      Jerome, no reply link so I had to reply to my own so I don’t know if you’ll see this but…Science? Puuuhlease. Like evolution right, the religion of the atheist. No something has to be observed or observable to be accessible to science, evolution is neither, so bad science yes. All of the great original scientists were christians, so sorry, atheism did not give us science, try again.

      uchikoma Reply:

      Im sorry Overworld but you are wrong. Evolution can be observed. You fail to specify how it is that evolution can not be observed. You mean you cannot see it in action in the higher animals…

      This is because you don’t live long enough. What we can do is look back over the fossil record for major changes and our recent scientific catalogues for recent minor changes.

      That is how we make the obervations in that area.

      Another point is that evolution is not a religeon and, here ill say it, THE ELITE DO NOT BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION!!!!

      This counterintuative point is proved by the fact that members of the elite sponsor animal and plant conservation. This is massively at odds with the theory of evolution -> If you beleive in nature taking its course, why not let nature take its course???

      They don’t believe in evolution – they believe in their own godhood and an image of the earth remade in their own likeness. They want a dark-side garden of eden free of real people – christians and atheists alike. They want sith-only gated communities in the middle of vast parks filled with plants and animals hand picked by them. Do you not see??!?!?!????

      Other than sensible precautions like leaving deliberate wild areas, we should let whatever animals and plant thrive or not in response to the general enviroment.

      Have you noticed how there are loads of rodents, certain birds, feral dogs and cats, certain kids of fish, insects and loads of others????
      Have you noticed how there are less highly-specialized animals (pandas, big cats, certain fish and insects and loads of others) around these days????

      These are the examples of organisms thriving or flaking it in response to the world environment. If you don’t like rats and pidgeons dont worry! Something will evolve to eat them mofos within a million years or two!!!And it mite have cute looking offspring!!!YAY!!!!!

      And don’t even get me started on the microbial world that is evolving at a DIRECTLY OBERVABLE rate right under (and in) your nose!!!!!!!

      uchikoma Reply:

      Oh and yes:

      If I, in pursuit of my uni studies, can program a system that invokes the principles behind evolution (information crossover and mutation (randomness)) to find optimizations in high demensional search spaces – Why can’t god?

      But bluntly why can people create evolutionary system but not god??? (Who is supposidly a far better programmer than I and has a much better PC aka the f**king universe)

      Overworld Reply:

      Uchikoma, you are talking about adaptation not evolution, adapting to your surroundings is well within the created order of things, one animal changing into another is not, evolution violates at least two scientific observed and established laws i.e. entropy and biogenesis and a perfect God would not and did not use such a severely flawed mechanism as evolution even though that would be the only way evolution would be possible, it also violates scripture, e.g. evolution implies a whole lot of death just to get to Adam and Eve and the scriptures teach that death didn’t enter until they sinned so Theistic evolution is not compatible with the Bible. Evolution is a religion because it is based on faith and not facts.

      Outragedmom Reply:

      So what. Too many “Christians” are going along with the plan. Christians slaughtered many nations to spread the word of Jesus so spare me.

      mshort Reply:

      I think those words are harsh. The thing is that the illuminati believe in lucifer. They obviously sacrifice to him . MURDERING EVERY ONE THEY CAN. if the opposite of this is love ,truth, peace, all the things Christ walked and taught . Even when they beat Him, He asked His Father to forgive them. Oh ya he was murdered for being “a rebbel that spoke truth. HMMMM

      Joe Reply:

      Dude your wrong, the Vatican was founded by a pagan, Pope John Paul 2nd used to be on the board of the company that produced the gas used to kill the Jews, the current pope is a Nazi youth. Seriously, if you dont think the Vatican belongs to the mystery schools, and that they used the inquisition just as we use our bogus wars, then you are a fool.

      Mike Reply:

      Joe,

      See my comments below, which debunk the claims that the Catholic Church’s worship practices are evil.

      Overworld Reply:

      This is true, but they did it contrary to the teachings of the Messiah.

      ProphetPX Reply:

      Jesus Christ himself said: “by their fruits, ye shall know them”.

      HENCE, the “slaughtering of many nations to ’spread the word of Jesus’” WAS NOT CHRISTIAN nor was it done by christians. People can pretend and be self-deceived all they want, but slaughtering innocents is never “christian”.

      You are barking up the wrong tree, Outraged Mom.

      quikdagger Reply:

      Humanist has a new name in modern religious movements…its LaVeyic Satanism!

    8. Lynn Dartez Says:

      TO ALL,
      THIS IS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN STOP, AND THEN REVERSE, THE ILLEGAL ACTIONS OF THE TRAITORS IN HIGH OFFICE.
      I CALL ON ALL AMERICANS TO INSIST THAT CONSERVATIVE SENATORS ISSUE A VERY PUBLICIZED APPEAL TO ATTORNEY GENERALS, DISTRICT ATTORNEYS, AND THE MILITARY ADJUTANT GENERAL TO MOVE FORTH WITH THE IMMEDIATE ARREST OF THOSE WHO HAVE SO OBVIOUSLY CIRCUMVENTED AND SUBJUGATED AND SUBVERTED THE CONSTITUTION WHICH THEY HAVE TAKEN AN OATH TO DEFEND FROM ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.
      WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME AND DO NOT HAVE YEARS TO WAIT ON ANY OTHER MEASURES SUCH AS THE NEXT ELECTION OR SOME DRAWN OUT LITIGATION. ONE TERRORIST ATTACK OR ONE WACO INCIDENT AND THIS COUNTRY GOES HAYWIRE. CAN YOU IMAGINE A GROUP OF VETS AGAINST THE HEAVY HANDED ATF? OR SOME SIMILAR SCENARIO? WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THE TRAITORS WANT SO THAT THEY CAN CALL IN THE MILITARY TO “TAKE CONTROL OF THE POPULATION”. THESE ENEMIES MUST BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE IMMEDIATELY.

      quikdagger Reply:

      I call and write my congressmen and senators on a weekly basis…they are directly involved in the coup d’état. Why would they stand up for us. WE THE PEOPLE have to stand up as our founding fathers told us to do.

      NSS Reply:

      I think things are Well past the point of talking, or discussion.
      If you think a few protests are going to sway these hell bent people from there course of action, then you are playing there own cards, for them…bidding them time to further entrench the system.
      I think Alan Watt said something along the lines of “They are either going to Get what they want…or there’s gonna be a real mess in the streets.”
      No truer words spoken.
      As I see it, you have 2 choices….to accept what is coming, or to not.
      and either option will require a complete dedication of life, to that end.

      edjoy74 Reply:

      Yes they sure are all involved in the coup d’état and I saw this about how the insignia was made on money, etc. All this has been happening from the days of Thomas Jefferson and John Adams and all these people. When FDR came into office in the 30’s era he implemented a great deal more. The constitution is completely wrong – people have never been treated equally. Thomas Jefferson had slaves and had children out of wedlock with a black woman named Sally. The founding fathers were a bunch of masons and they were the beginning of all the problems that we see today. The US was always a very racist country – I laugh when I think of equality for all – what a crock.

      2FREEDOMLOVERS Reply:

      KUDOS!!!

    9. 909090909090909090909 Says:

      clinton political/media lobby did 911

    10. margie Says:

      Aj is a women hater.

      Warrior Priestess GrandMa Reply:

      Margie….Huh ???? Where the hell did this come from??? this little drive by asside directed at a Man who your lame ass sheepal boyfriend happens to be jealous of??? i doubt you have the brains to even say something REALY stupid like this, on your own…..SURPRISE !, douch bag, your boyfriend is a gay woman hater….wait a couple a years and find out.

      Alex risks EVERYTHING to SAVE little bitches like you and your Children EVERYDAY !!! does that make Him a bad guy ? What does the retarted fool who YOU sleep with do to protect “the least of these “?

      Oh never mind troll, you are probly in reality a big fat drag queen smokeing a cigar and eating bucket of kuntucky fried, extra crispy, washing it down with a coulpa steel reserves, ,and, couldnt get it up with a block and tackle if your life depended on it !

      Im sorry Alex the REAL Woman owe our very lives and dignity to You and We think You are sexyer than Elvis, so rock on Smart Man !!

      REAL !!!!! Woman LOVE Alex Jones !

      Margie Reply:

      only woimen who still are crap under a man’s feet

      Outragedmom Reply:

      Only woimen who are crap under a mans foot would know that. So how does the crap smell today?

      Margie Reply:

      u tell me outragedmom. Its 2009 not 1946 where men ran the womans life, the man is not a king is that how u treat your man. U r a doormat, get some help. get a real life, Wake up sister women are equal. with men. my husband of 35 yrs is on my side and is nam ve,t who also fought for your sad hides , so there Myonly beef with Aj is the right to birth controland Pro choice, that is it. So you don’t have to slam me on everything. Jeez do you agree with everything he says, if u do, well fine ;but he’s not a Messiah OK

      ProphetPX Reply:

      Sounds like Margie the FEMINIST TROLL needs to get with the times and read Dr. Henry Makow!

      http://www.SaveTheMales.CA/

      MEN AND WOMEN, READ Dr. Makow’s blog site AND FINALLY RETURN TO SANITY!

      edjoy74 Reply:

      Margie AJ isn’t a woman hater. AJ acts like a man of the old school southern type of gentleman who does everything he can to protect women. He is not a person who would marry some woman’s liber. I don’t agree with a lot of what AJ stands for but I do have to come in this time to say something about this.

      mshort Reply:

      HEAR HEAR

      ProphetPX Reply:

      And “margie” is a TROLL. Try getting to know Alex personally by listening to his radio shows. Alex does not hate women, and he didn’t even write this article!
      But I do know that he loves children and women and loves life and loves liberty and fights for all of us, even for you.

      To fight for what’s right, even if it means for the resulting benefit of one’s own “enemies”, is not without nobility!

    11. Warrior Priestess GrandMa Says:

      Upon this news, Grand Ma cant even respond right now…cant even pick my face up out of a pool of vomit, snot and tears of death dealing RAGE for this evil witch, and ALL who are like her.

      Oh !!!! OOOOOOOO MY DEAR GOD WHERE YOU !!!!!!! ????????

      FOR THIS I NEED NEW WORDS !!!!

    12. May Says:

      There is only one religion on Earth. The worship of the Madonna and child which has come down from Queen Semiramis and Nimrod….. what is this worship all about…. it is about the worship of the woman that gives birth to a God. But the bible tells us that this has happened before….

      Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

      Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

      PLEASE NOTE IN THE ABOVE VERSE, IT SAYS THE CHILDREN ARE THE SAME AS THE FATHER NOT HYBRIDS.

      Right now this is very important because this religion which is the same all over the world came from knowledge from before the flood. And this knowledge is this…. God is not some spirit in the sky, he is a race of beings of which we have been made in their image of, or rather altered to resemble them and they come down to Earth and use our woman as incubators for their seed which is not mixed with ours but the babies are purely of them. Eg the reference to the virgin birth because the babies ARE not of the women.

      Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

      Note in the above passage the use of “our” meaning plural.

      So what is being said in the bible is a race of beings came down to Earth and altered us to suit their purpose of bearing their children. Eg

      Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

      This refers to the fact that woman now give birth to a Baby with a head so large, it threatens not to be able to get out. So the pelvis of the woman has been enlarged. This is one alteration they have done to us, as well as we now have a body temperature some two degrees lower than all other mammals, this will also be to suit them, as well as many, many other alterations. The women that carried the babies of the Gods before the flood were seen as being great, as goddesses and they were worshiped and idolized and this worship has continued to this day. The promise of the return of Christ, is really the promise that these beings that we worshiped and who have left the Earth in our care, will return one day. It seems very apparent that they have promised to return and that return is said to be when we become as numerous as the sands in the sea which is where we are at today.

      Sally Reply:

      I also note

      thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

      Which husband are they taking about?

      Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

      909090909090909090909 Reply:

      good for you—-

      in america you have a right to freedom of religion and expression

      that is the american version of queen semiramis

      LIBERTY

      Warrior Priestess GrandMa Reply:

      So a bunch of annunnaki ALIANS came to Earth and raped a bunch of Human Woman, With their huge purple dicks, knocked them up with their VILE alian sperm, and, started a race of a bunch of Human hateing, mixed up beasts ?? and YOU think this is just fine?

      The history of Earth is FULL of storys about this kind of “upgradeing of Human stalk” ALIAN hybrid experiments….

      What ? do you think its cool that these ancient, Human, Woman, got raped by these “angels” who were doing NOTHING but demonstrateing the SUPERIORITY IMPRINT that has screwed up and devided Humans for ALL OF THIS TIME here on Earth?

      Im so sick of you dumb ass so called “christians” get this streight bible head…

      THE BIBLE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE DEVILS BIGGEST TOOL !!!
      ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE “RELIGIOUS DOCTRINS”….

      Do you believe for one nano second that the bible would be FLOODED into the prisons if it were not pure mind warping LIES/DIS INFO ???? get real !

      Jane Reply:

      I also know of what she is talking about …she said plainly the babies are not hybrids but purely them!!!! We have been genetic altered to carry these babies.

      Also and don’t ask me how I know this but they are a hive race and they are primarily male but have a queen per so many of them and the queen is the one that inserts the baby eggs into the uterus of the woman. The egg is made from herself and the Draco father so no human connection what so ever.

      NSS Reply:

      Did you knows there are literally Thousands of conspiracy theories out there, all propagated for one true purpose?
      That being, to confuse and pull people in every direction possible…and stop us from coming together with one common goal and one common direction.
      Please, look at the facts that have already been discovered and realize This is Enough to focus on….. The further continuation of our lives.

      Overworld Reply:

      “Don’t ask me how I know this”? So did they implant these ideas in your head when you were abducted? Also, Draco means Dragon, and the Bible says the world will worship the Dragon who is Satan…Nice theory you got there.

      chesterr Reply:

      wow, i wish i had a huge purple schlong…anyways, i married a filipina and they are breeding themselves out of existence…90 million people in place the size of arizona…

      FFJJ Reply:

      Reply to May Says:

      Interesting. I have not heard it expressed in that way before. I will log, and reflect.

      Outragedmom Reply:

      I cannot stomach people who constantly quote from the Bible. Read another book for some kind of perspective.

      Konk. Reply:

      The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy !!!

      uchikoma Reply:

      Don’t forget the Encyclopedia Galactica!!!!!!!

      chesterr Reply:

      i believe in God and my wife is a brickhead born again and i cant stand the bible thumpers either, not that she is one

      oldnamvet Reply:

      outragedmom I cant stand f---ing dumb females like you who dont beleive in the bible (KJV).As for Hillery why did she not abort her homely daughter,and to bad hillerys mother did not abort hillery for the world would be a better place without this lizbo communist traitor,drug dealer whore.I beleive woman was created for soulmate and helpmate for man,a EQUAL IF YOU WILL.

      ProphetPX Reply:

      oh? And what books would YOU recommend that we read, instead of the Bible, Outragedmom??? The BIBLE is the GUIDEBOOK to LIFE. NOT DEATH, NOT demonic warping of women’s uterus (plural), nor does it advocate that women should MURDER their babies! ACTUALLY if you take the time to read the Bible, God said “Thou shalt not murder” – the 10 Commandments come right from the Bible and form the ENTIRE BASIS of all known CIVIL human government laws that we have today, EXCEPT this ERROR NOTION that women somehow have “the right to choose [to murder any babies]“.

      DUH! ALL Humans have a RIGHT TO DO WHATEVER THEY SO PLEASE in LIFE, including THE RIGHT TO LIVE (AND even babies have a right to life and to MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES TOO!)

      If a woman says she has the “right” to murder her unborn baby, then that precedent ALSO gives ME the “right” to then, thereafter, MURDER HER because she MURDERED HER BABY. That is how human government, or “an eye for an eye” (which also stems out of the Old Testament) works!

      It is MURDER when a woman takes away her baby’s OWN choice, even a baby’s RIGHT … to LIVE!

      If a woman has a right to MURDER her baby, then I therefore have a RIGHT to MURDER HER!

      That is called JUSTICE. Which also comes out of the BIBLE, mind you!
      THERE IS NO GETTING AROUND THIS!!

      ProphetPX Reply:

      How many people, do you think, actually stop and pray to ask God’s opinion regarding if they may have permission to actually murder (abort) their unborn baby or not? Maybe some women do, but IRREGARDLESS, those women either unthinkingly FAIL or innately outright REFUSE… to face the fact that God’s opinion NEVER CHANGES regarding MURDER:

      “Thou shalt NOT murder.”

      Of COURSE everyone is born with “free will” (”choice”) to do as they so please, but that also goes for babies not yet born! Every action causes a reaction. Every choice brings a consequence! Murder brings judgment via justice. So is the way of things on life on earth so long as we have human government.

      But here is the rub: Saying we have “THE RIGHT” (to choose MURDER) on SOMEONE ELSE (even a baby) puts us into a SATANIC REBELLION MODE where we think we know better than the God of the Universe does. That is a SIN.

      Thus: Abortion = EUGENICS = Satanism = Rebellion against God = SIN.

      When you attempt to ELEVATE yourself (even if only in your own mind) above the knowledge, wisdom, RIGHT and power of God, the GIVER OF ALL LIFE, saying who should live, and who should die, then you are committing spiritual treason.

      Only satanists and atheists can justify abortion and Eugenics.
      It is NEVER for mankind (or spiritkind in the case of demons or angels) to DECIDE or otherwise “mete out” who is to live, or who is to die.

      IT IS ONLY FOR GOD THE CREATOR TO DECIDE!

      mshort Reply:

      MAY COME ON .. DIDNT I EXPLANE YESTERDAY DIG DEEPER

      May Reply:

      Why don’t you come on, you wouldn’t have a bloody clue and aren’t likely to get one soon!

      I Should Have Taken The Blue Pill Reply:

      I still can’t figure out what you’re saying….you don’t follow Sitichin’s BS theories I hope. he’s been debunked.

      You are referring to the story of the Nephilim…..not sure what that has to do with virgin birth…..obviously these women were not virgins…..i think you have watched the Matrix too many times.

      uchikoma Reply:

      Just look at the assyrian wall relief that he reckons is a perfect map of the solar system with 10 planets also featuring an annunaki figure sitting on a chair (or toilet?).

      Then look at a book for 5 year olds on the solar system.

      Then you relaise that the old coot, whilst he can read cuniform, is talking either BS or crazy.

      I Should Have Taken The Blue Pill Reply:

      Man, what is wrong with people?
      Check your email.

      Overworld Reply:

      Sons of God is a term referring to Angels, fallen Angels in this case. It’s interesting that this Biblical account of Demon/Human hybrids keeps popping up in modern movies and cartoons like City of Angels, Hellboy, Inuashi etc. The belief that these are Aliens is a Satanic deception that is part of the powerful Endtime Delusion.

    13. NINO WANTS A SATOGIE Says:

      REPENT.UNITE.RESIST.

    14. EYES ONLY Says:

      ONE DAY HER FACE IS GOING TO SPLIT OPEN AND AN ALIEN WORM IS GOING TO SLITHER OUT.

      Overworld Reply:

      Now that’s funny.

    15. Tinfoil Hat Says:

      “A bad cause will ever be supported by bad means
      and bad men.” (or in this case woman)

      Thomas Paine

    16. freeman Says:

      every time i see this woman on tv i find her more ignorant and full of it than i have ever seen her!! she thinks she has solutions to world problems..she should start by telling the people of america!! hey us politicians are full of s--- and have been skullfkin you for years!! hey remember and pay your taxes america so we can blow the f--- out of everyone that doesnt agree with what we think!! oh a tax that does not exist aswell!! now what does this woman know about anything??? outwith of what she is told to do by her masters……

    17. NativeAmerican Says:

      What an insult to Thomas Jefferson.

      "ren Reply:

      i agree

      Overworld Reply:

      Indeed.

    18. roaddog Says:

      They always throw words out but keep doing what they do, which is to spew hate and death. They read from the script in front of them like those are their own high and mighty words. Its all a show. Hollywood ain’t got nothing on them.

    19. Thom from Tejas Says:

      I read this and my jaw dropped.
      I used to merely despise Hillary Clinton but after reading this and her perverted actions described by Cathy O’Brian in The Trance Formation of America recently, I absolutely hate her.
      TJ is one of my greatest heroes and to compare Miss Planned Parenthood to him is just wrong on so many levels.

      edjoy74 Reply:

      I think if Hillary (Hitlery) ever got to be president you would see a tremendous exodus taking place in the US towards other countries. This nutcase of an extreme racist is something else. She is the supreme witch and who knows what she is up to.

      Overworld Reply:

      Your statement that she is a Witch is quite true, or at least she consults Witches. When she was still in the Whitehouse she brought in a Spiritist Medium named Jean Houston I believe and supposedly channeled the spirit of Eleanor Roosevelt while Bill looked on approvingly.

    20. F all whores Says:

      ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING, LIKE EVERY WOMAN WHO WOULD ALLOW SOMEONE TO CUT UP HER BABY AND SELL IT TO SCIENCE

      IF IT HAS A HEARTBEAT, IT IS ALIVE.

      STOP USING ABORTION AS BIRTH CONTROL FOR YOUR LACK OF WILL POWER AND INTELLIGENCE.

      Outragedmom Reply:

      You know I would pray to encourage the “girls” to keep their legs close as I would pray to encourage “boys” to keep their little man in their pants. But I know that all the prayers in the world would not make a drop of difference. I am a realist they are going to breed or at least fornicate.

    21. frnnkdlxx Says:

      lol. i’m black and i laughed, because hillary is such an openly evil m f’er.

      Simon Simpleton Reply:

      I wondered why the photos of affection between them?

      edjoy74 Reply:

      She sure is but I bet she liked what Obama had to offer her – his little man in his pants. LOL LOL.

    22. frnnkdlxx Says:

      p.s. thomas jefferson is my favorite president.

    23. 909090909090909090909 Says:

      a right to an abortion is one thing

      trying to create a whole culture based on negative eugenic policy in every facet of society is quite another

      I Should Have Taken The Blue Pill Reply:

      There are no rights to abortion.

      But we do have a right to life in the country.

      Overworld Reply:

      Wake up and do the math, margaret sanger was a eugenicist and the founder of the biggest abortion provider in the U.S, therefore abortion equals eugenics, it’s not rocket science.

    24. Asier Says:

      what kind of argument was that?

      909090909090909090909 Reply:

      all the tv shows—are not about interesting stories and entertainment—

      they are negative social conditioning based off eugenic philosophies—to try to tear people apart at every level

      fake msm media 2000s—no one gets laid and has fun on tv–

      its based off of seeing people as ‘bad’ and a nuisance at the core—an entire set of tv censorship standards—designed with the sole purpose of trying to create social mores based on stagnant death being the norm

      the s--- is falling apart

    25. Vince Says:

      Everbody shud hav a rite to an aboreshun, but im glad my mom dint git won.

      909090909090909090909 Reply:

      yeah…
      ultimately—only in a rape or medical emergency should there be a right to abortion

      yall are right

      Overworld Reply:

      There have been almost 50 million abortions in the U.S. since 1973, that makes the most dangerous place in America…The Mothers Womb. The place that is supposed to nurture life has been turned into a Grave.

    26. maasanova Says:

      So is that why they hired Obimbo?

    27. John Says:

      Hillary Clintons knowledge of history is as accurate as Adolph Hitlers knowledge of history.

    28. Michael(FL) Says:

      We weren’t the only country to have slaves.

      It’s over now, has been for hundreds of years. People need to get on with it and move on. We’re being enslaved now by the government. Time for another slave revolt.

      Michael(FL) Reply:

      And NO.

      I do not condone slavery.

      Yes, it is a black mark on our record as a country.

      DannyLukic Reply:

      We are not talking about other countries and their slave policies, we were talking about the comparison to Jefferson and Sanger.

      It has hardly been over for “100’s of years” and it is only being brought up because an article here was written about the comparison between the 2 and her defense of her admiration for both of them.

      Michael(FL) Reply:

      Picky picky.

      DannyLukic Reply:

      No Im not being picky, nor did I think you were condoning slavery. However the point that was made is that she is not condoning the racist beliefs of Sanger just like she did not condone the slave beliefs of Jefferson, or by proxy, any other founding fathers but for their positive contributions to life in America.

      It’s hypocritical for us to not acknowledge this fact when we all hold such high regard for our Founding Fathers. We need to think about that rationally and not just respond to such an article emotionally without seeing that hypocrisy as their are a helluva lot more legitimate things to attack her for, like exporting abortion to other countries via foreign policy among other things.

      NOTHINGUCANDO Reply:

      Michael,

      Its not over and the NWO has made all Amercians their slaves.

      “Nothings new under the sun” only the fashion in which, the raping, robbing and pillaging occurs.

      Prisons,unjust laws, taxation, collapsing the economy, fema camps, poisioning the air, water, food and medicines. …

    29. uncleeddie Says:

      Comparisons are good. Hillary and Linda Lovelace cum to mind.

    30. Wewton Says:

      Slave ownership was integrated and supported by common law in the 16th, 17th, 18th and eventually started to fade in the mid 19th Centuries during the civil war. Some slave owners were good to their workers, and others not. I think it was morally wrong, to hire workers and to own them for life, without the possibility of freedom. White slaves on the other hand could only be forced to work (yes there were white slaves also) and be bound by the terms of their contract, and then be guaranteed freedom and goods, after the terms of the agreement was satisfied.

      Im glad things have changed.

      DannyLukic Reply:

      Whether or not white slave owners were “good” to their slaves is, forgive me, an irrelevant point to ever make. I dont think it was your intention but I have heard that remark before to sort of redeem some slave owners. The bottom line, your life was owned without your consent and you had no right to your life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness.

      Whites were not slaves they were indentured servants. That was a legal contract that they entered into voluntarily in exchange for food, clothes, and in most cases travel to the US, in exchange for 3-7 years of service, and they were free to go when their contract expired. But they were not forced into this contract, it was by consent. Of course such contracts are illegal now, but still exists in this country as well by immigrants who wish to come into this country and are, for example, forced to work in prostitution once they get here.

      Red Dawn Now! Reply:

      You’re WRONG! whites, particularily Jew were slaves for thousands of years! There were and are white slaves in China,(chicom rats!) this is where the term shanghaied came from, whites would be dropped into pits beneath bars in places such as Washington state and renditioned off to china.

      The most aggrieves white slavery goes on to this day and dick rat cheney and the arab scum are some of the most guilty of this, along with the cockroaches of dynecorp of Austin, that is….SEX SLAVERY! Most of the young girls and women who turn up missing here in America and around the world are stolen by sex slaving satanic maggots! All these scum bags are going to be hunted down and….well, you know.

      IN Vietnam, china and Russia, they still have our POWs from the sixties held as slaves for reasons unknown..most definitely satanic rituakls that the communists are so embedded with, in that, there could be no other impetus to hold them.

      Black slavery STILL goes on in the repugnant continent of Africa!

      ba abbas = son of god Reply:

      Israel has a huge sex-slave trade business. Mostly they use women of Uzbekistan and the Balkans. The United States of America has a huge piece of the action in it too..along with the United States of America being havily involved in under cover drug trafficking & weapons trafficking and weapons of mass destruction distributions.

      Red Dawn Now! Reply:

      Yes, it is common knowledge that Israel has a commie government just as this putrid government now is, they both must be supplanted by the people who are the rightful owners!

      Neither of our governments represent us!

      bar abbas = son of god Reply:

      Hi Red Dawn Now
      I was thinking the same as you some time ago, in that the Israeli & United States ‘governments’ sure as hell are predatory and self-righteous. Both are dripping in deception and usary and claim special rights for their behaviors upon Peoples of this World; Twins.

      Both journied into regions and slew the Indigenous inhabitants by invoking that they had a god-given right

    31. Brzezinski Says:

      Hillary Clinton is the devil’s concubine!

    32. ron no inside job paul Says:

      That’s ok because her and ron no inside job paul had a pretty good chuckle the other day.

      Pat Riot Reply:

      HA!HA!hA!HAhaha! yeah, f that mother f’er!

    33. Andrew Jackson Says:

      i try noto to listen to hillary. i believe she and her buddies have turned the USA into a fat, urban, feminist colony

    34. marc27 Says:

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    35. Shadow Dancer Says:

      I don’t have any religion. I don’t worship any man or woman. Try to treat everyone in a Righteous manner but I don’t worship them. Creator watches & listens.

    36. "ren Says:

      MESSAGE TO BILL CLINTON: bill, would you be so kind as to f--- your wife to tears so she’ll quit s---ting out of her mouth? she is a disgrace to the female gender and i can say this because i’m a woman and there is NO WAY she’s been laid lately. maybe you could teach her to jack off? sorry for the rude statement y’all but she just pisses me off

    37. Off topic Chemtrail Sniffing Junkie Says:

      ADHD was apparently first diagnosed around the time Aspertame was first introduced in to the food chain! Check out “sweet misery” on google.

    38. Kansan Says:

      just sick

    39. Vince Says:

      Believe in Jesus man. Jesus will save you.

    40. Vince Says:

      Jesus will save us all, but first he better save himself.

      Jesus ain't worth s--- Reply:

      Can jesus BMX like these guys

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxNa3PIo4O8

    41. Sir Baby De Porky Says:

      What a nerve !!! Or is it called ” chutzpah ” ?!?

    42. screw u priestess Says:

      Priestess is a lousy zionist baby raper. Try Goggling ” Rabbi drinks blood from circumcised wounds” to see what her and her kind do.

      Jesus ain't worth s--- Reply:

      Did you know babies foreskins are now used in face creams only the rich can afford “because of the elastic properties in a foreskin” sad but TRUE.

      Jesus ain't worth s--- Reply:

      heres a link…

      http://www.alternet.org/environment/47421

    43. mark Says:

      she does have some nerve. many people do know that sanger was for killing blacks. does she really believe that people are going to buy this crap any longer? i for one sure hope not.

      Jesus ain't worth s--- Reply:

      Hillary is a old sack of s--- that is going to hell! If her Vooda ocullt s--- really works…How is it that
      Her ugly face is wrinkly as F***Ck!

      Overworld Reply:

      Most planned parenthood clinics are found in black neighborhoods, more black babies are aborted than born, that is called genocide.

    44. f--- you fat boy alex Says:

      Alex, you fat ass quit censoring everyone who has an opinion you dont like !! That priestess whore above is a zionist pig. Try doing a Google search for ” Rabbi drinks blood from circumcised wounds” to see what her kind does.

      Warrior Priestess GrandMa Reply:

      f--- you fat boy elvis

      Billy thinks you are Chris Jones from stormfrount, is that true?

      Odviously everybody knows that what you have said about me here is about as far from the truth as your dick is from your knee, so what ever….

      If you are not a total adl opperative, than,
      CONGRAGULATIONS, you just got yourself flagged as a anti semite

      oh, and thanks for calling the rabbi blood suckers to the forefrount here, inadvertantly, and unintentionally, of course, but, what ever, ” out of the mouths of idiots” as they say.

    45. Jesus ain't worth s--- Says:

      Yep they are definately into “foreskins” sad… but possibly true.

    46. reddog Says:

      shes f---in sick

    47. ron Says:

      they just look like a bunch of lesbians to me…no wonder bill was f---ing everything that walked

      Sir Baby De Porky Reply:

      I heard ” everything that has ears ” !!!

      edjoy74 Reply:

      LOL LOL. Those are the exact words of my husband. He calls Monica Lewinsky – Mona Liminsky and has us all laughing because he misconscrews her name. LOL LOL.

    48. fya Says:

      f--- you and all your pleasantries and formalities, call this bitch for who she is; a traitorous, scumbag of the world, piece of s---! Nothing more nothing less.

      Texassss Reply:

      And what do we do to traitors?

      We HANG THEM!

      fya Reply:

      Damn, Texassss sure is beautiful country, init?

      Dr. Sardonicus Reply:

      I’m a big fan of firing squads, actually. But I’m not that much of a stickler; whatever accomplishes the mission!

      Semper Fi, Chris in Colorado

    49. Jesus ain't worth s--- Says:

      I once read “bill clinton licked cocaine off Hillarys snatch” Is it true?

      I Have No Bunghole Reply:

      I can’t say for sure if the rumor of ole crazy Bill is true about licking cocaine of ole raunchy Hillary’s “snatch? But, what I can say is if that is true, I can but the poison of her rabid ole beaver numbed out his tongue way faster and harder than the coke, he probably still has horrible breath!!!

    50. EchoSierra71 Says:

      That “forked tongue” lifeless looking mannequin “Hillary Clinton” must have some big gnarly testicles to use the name of Thomas Jefferson to promote her Globalist Filth. It is interesting to see this rogue illegitimate fascist regime try to advance their demonic propaganda while posing as great Americans, as though they could even come close to measuring up to a particulate of the honor and integrity displayed by the founding fathers and the majority of that generation.

      I quote a friend of mine recently saying:

      “None of the current leaders of our nation are fit to shine the boots of those who founded it.”
      – former ACM XO

      fya Reply:

      beautiful.

    51. OilPatchPlug Says:

      Hog Flu was named after Hillary and her hero.Hope they will find a common place in hoghell.

    52. Texassss Says:

      This is NOT funny! I happen to like Thomas Jefferson. I named my shot gun after him! (My gun’s name is “T.J.”)

      I don’t like that nasty, filty ho comparing that other nasty, filthy ho to Thomas Jefferson.

      I think I will compare Hillary Clinton to … uh, let’s say, a fish! A really gross-looking, slimy and stinky ugly fish (one that you cannot eat because it smells like poo-poo and it oozes green mildewy slime when you cut it open).

    53. fya Says:

      ahhh…wtf!!! you censored my reply to EchoSierra. Wtf Jones, you fat hog!?…J/k. lol, love and, respect. For the re-cord,…I have been dorkin’, so I am not responsible for my comments henceforth.

    54. embrace constitution Says:

      Margaret Sanger was an athiest.

    55. n.w.aaa Says:

      She never really answers the question! all she does is throw thomas jefferson out there and its all okay, or soo she thinks… sanger is a evil bitch! i do not consider that a reasonable answer. its not even enough time to answer.

    56. Abraham Smith Says:

      Come on, she said, she admires AND deplores both Jefferson and Sanger for some of the things they’ve done. Just like you can admire Micheal Jackson for his Music and deplore him for his lust for children. No one’s perfect.

      And btw:
      If the NWO can rid us of those religious freaks, be it christians, muslims, or whatever, so be it. That’s change I can embrace. I’m sick of those people hating someone because s/he doesn’t adhere to their lifestyle, and I am sick of this Allah the Merciful and Jesus Loves You Missionairies. Get Real, Kids. Believe what you want, but don’t bother everyone with your personal believes. Thanks.

      At last: Don’t you think that Jefferson believed in a NWO when he envisioned the US as a nation state? There are many faces/facets of the NWO, both benevolent and malevolent.

      tacks Reply:

      “Believe what you want, but don’t bother everyone with your personal beliefs.”

      You’re bothering us with your personal belief that we shouldn’t bother others with our personal beliefs. Or is everything you say a “fact”?

      Overworld Reply:

      Excellent reply tacks!

      Abraham Smith Reply:

      Got me. Well done. Everything’s believe in the end. Facts exist only if you believe in some kind of reality that supports the concept of ‘fact’. And even then ‘facts’ are wide open to interpretation.

      The point I was trying to make: Religion may be your guide, but it is no argument. And far to often it is an obstacle to reason.

      But hey, what the heck. All Hail the Hypnotoad!

      Overworld Reply:

      I think you just contradicted yourself, if everything is belief in the end and facts are wide open to interpretation like you say, then reason has no value and then religion can hardly be an obstacle. All sounds very new agey and confusing.

      Abraham Smith Reply:

      Hope I can be less confusing..

      The problem with facts: Person A says: Because of X I want Y. Person B says: Because of X I want Z. Facts alone can not provide answers.

      To draw conclusions/find answers, we need some kind of believe: Believe in Reason, Science, the Bible, Human Rights, anything which provides a measure to attribute a value to things. Intrinsically, nothing has a value. Burning witches was morally right not so long ago, but not anymore. Why? Because we changed our minds on that, changed our values.

      I believe we can learn and know about the world by observation and intellect. It allows us to find solutions to problems and overcome them. Now, religion can always argue with “God’s will” or “heaven” or “hell”, with out-of-this-world causes and effects. That’s an obstacle for reasoning. Drastic Example: what does it help if some say hurricane Kathrina was God’s punishment für immoral behaviour? First, it’s (I assume) improbable, second it’s unprovable, third, it distracts from the more worldly causes (like neglected barrages).

      Anyway, this is not the right place to get any deeper into this topic. I really appreciate your comments. Take care.

    57. Alan Says:

      It’s really nice to see one of the congressmen from Nebraska doing or saying something worthwhile

    58. tyson Says:

      Please, everyone, WATCH THE VIDEO “THE NEW ATLANTIS”. It show that this thing of ours goes way back. I was shocked. It takes alot to do that to me!

    59. Tea Party Spokesman!! Says:

      I attended the Tea Party in Frankkklin NC and one of the people who talked to all of us made the case for pro-life by saying that all the aborted babies could be here now to help pay for the bail out and the babies could be paying taxes. I am some what glad to report that about only 3 out of 300 people claped at this statement. Just for the record I do not agree with abortion, but we are all people and I will not get involved in your life,”pro or not” and I want nobody to tell me how I should live either. Live and let live. Power to the peaceful/people!!

    60. Zombie Nation Says:

      I think its finally starting to sink into the western world that democracy and those that claim to “guard” it are lying deceitful scum , and the whole bloody thing has been a mass sham for the cameras and the gullible , this awful woman isnt to be trusted , and her ghastly husband is another piece of lying garbage who i wouldnt even buy a second hand car from..

    61. kjh Says:

      Alex, nobody knows who margrit sanger is. She could have killed a million people but ain’t nobody following this story. I’m sure that she is the epitome of evil and that billary supports her. big whoop.

    62. MOUNTINGFLAME Says:

      hilliary is about as liberal/commie as one can get….really love her for the whole sale of america to china so they would keep buying t-bills….thank you bitch…as i’m sure you really love mother russia…cause you sure don’t stand for “American” ideas….bitch..sorry

    63. tacks Says:

      Here is the pro-death position as articulated by Hitlerly “women have the choice to have their babies savagely murdered.” I’ve come to the conclusion that it is probably a good idea America collapses. America has killed millions of defenseless infants, which is the evilest crime imaginable.

      Zombie Nation Reply:

      ive come to a conclsuion also , and that is that the majority of Americans are good people and should not be written of as – killers of defenseless infants.

      Overworld Reply:

      Zombie Nation, unfortunately I would say that judging by the election of the most hardcore pro abortion politician ever to the presidency, that the majority in this nation are either pro abortion or simply do not care, and unfortunately that includes alot of christians.

      Overworld Reply:

      tacks, you speak the truth.

    64. tim Says:

      Liberlism is a mental disorder!

      Overworld Reply:

      Michael Savage, is that you?

    65. Joe Says:

      DO YOU WANT THE TRUTH!!!!???

      orbitfiles(dot)com, search for “william cooper mystery babylon” or search the same at google video or you tube!

      or how about when cooper was on your show? google video “BILL COOPER ON THE ALEX JONES RADIO SHOW FROM 1998 ( RARE ) ”

      or when you lied that you predicted 9/11 and in the same video he called you out!
      google video: “Alex Jones Didn’t Predict 9/11 Bill Cooper Did”

      or when he expose your Y2K scare!
      http(colon)//fr(dot)truveo(dot)com/William-Cooper-Examines-Alex-Jones-Radio-Show/id/689596222

      JAIL THE CRIMINAL BANKERS/QUEENS/KING Reply:

      Previewed the “truveo” audio. Seems like someonelses voice to me. Not A J.
      A robot voice. Though i do not know his voice in these older years.

      Whatever… The talk that cooper made (when previewing), is for stupid boys and girls.

      Getting scared is what you get automatically. The truth is scary.
      So don’t try to cut or hide the truth.

      Joe Reply:

      Wow you are a delusional person… you seriously think that is a robot voice??? Get the damn archive file from this website then!!!! I dont know who you are saying is scared but I will tell you that it isnt me. William Cooper wasnt trying to scare the public, that was Alex Jones. William Cooper told it like it is, and if people didnt like it he didnt give a damn! Look into him a little more before you got all ignorant and pretend like Alex Jones is God. Dont get me wrong either, I respect what Alex Jones contributes, but he needs to quit sensationalizing things and stick to the facts. I read Alex Jones, I buy his videos, but he leaves a big… BIG gap about the illuminati, the masons, and the mystery schools. And my point was to show you that there is far more to this then just what Alex Jones tells you! You need to open your mind and expand your research. And im pissed because everytime I post links to Bill Coopers mystery babylon series it gets deleted!!!!

      I Should Have Taken The Blue Pill Reply:

      What does Alex leave out about the illuminati, masons and mystery schools? I have heard him many times speak about them.

      Didn’t also William Cooper believe in the alien bs? And didn’t he later appoligize for speaking about them once he found out his information was a joke?

      Yes, Alex can go over the top. He is still the best at what he does. Alex works hard to make sure YOU and YOUR family are free…..

      Joe Reply:

      1st. Please then point me to some “good” information where he has spoken about them. Its lack luster at best.

      2nd. William Cooper always said, even in early speeches, that he had no way to verify the information he had seen on aliens, he also said that after awhile he felt that alien researchers were really mostly 30th degree or above masons, who were using the alien theory to distract people from the mystery schools, and have them focus on outside threats, instead of the ones facing us from behind the scenes in our own world.

      3rd. Alex Jones is good at what he does, but he is a sensationalist

      MY POINT HERE IS THAT PEOPLE NEED WILLIAM COOPERS PERSPECTIVE ON THE MYSTERY SCHOOLS, AS WELL AS WHAT ALEX JONES SAYS.

      If someone were to listen to the “Mystery Babylon” series that William Cooper put out and couple that with “End Game” and “The Obama Deception” most people would be nearly 100% awake. If all you listen to is Alex Jones, and watch him rant and rave and scream at TV hosts (on occasion) who arent affected by him in the least, then you are wasting your time. Rather then show that stupid crap, Alex could be using that time to focus on Freemasonry, the Illuminati (those indoctrinated into the mystery schools), etc. If you disagree then I dont know what to tell you.

      I Should Have Taken The Blue Pill Reply:

      Joe:
      1. I’m not one that saves links, but I’m sure someone here will provide. I have heard him speak of such things on numerous occasions. Yes, Alex keeps it political mostly….a right vs. wrong issues mostly…..it’s due to his ability to have a fanbase of many different people.

      2. William Cooper spread nonsense with the alien talk. I really like him, and have seen his mystery babylon series…..still, the alien talk was nonsense.

      3. Yes, Alex Jones is a sensationalist. I think it’s because he cares THAT much. I’ll agree, sometimes he takes it overboard.

      I agree with you mostly, though. William Cooper has some great information…..one just has to cut thru the BS. I don’t think anyone here is against the man.

    66. Princess Zelda Says:

      I’m big advocate of Eugenics while majority of Americans are foolish and easy to control. Most Americans are sitting on chair watching American Idol and other TV Series while people like myself believe in protecting humanity by supporting Eugenics

      I Should Have Taken The Blue Pill Reply:

      Protecting humanity by supporting tyranny is basically what you are saying.

      Overworld Reply:

      Princess Zelda, you are just jealous because you can’t sing, You probably got voted off by Simon.

    67. Princess Zelda Says:

      I’m big advocate of using eugenics worldwide swhile majority of Americans are foolish and easy to control. Most Americans are sitting on chairs and watching American Idol and other TV Series while people like myself believe in protecting humanity by supporting Eugenics

      Overworld Reply:

      Ok then, you first!

    68. Warrior Priestess GrandMa Says:

      Joe, I knew Milton William Cooper, and may God Bless and keep His otherwise Sweet and Dear Soul, He was crazy as a s--- house rat, on some levels, just like any MAN….say like….yourself?

      Joe Reply:

      Well granny you are entitled to your opinion but if you have ever read his book or listened to him, he truly cared for people, and he had a unique perspective into this whole system of deceit. Unlike Alex Jones, he kept the focus here in America, he believed in God, the constitution, and the basic unit of family! So granny if you want to call that crazy, then sign me up. I doubt you were ever shot at, forced off the road (to lose a leg), and gunned down by rogue police. But granny your right, he was just crazy, so crazy the establishment wanted him dead, so crazy he was on Bill Clintons most wanted list. So excuse me “WARRIOR PRIESTESS GRANDMA” but if you ask me, your the one crazy as a s--- house rat! I WILL NOT LET THE NAME OF WILLIAM COOPER DIE IN VAIN!!!!

      Warrior Priestess GrandMa Reply:

      Joe, Im SORRY, I am TRUELY SOOOO Sorry, PLEASE forgive Me….

      ( Dear Bill Please Forgive Me

      What i ment to say, is that He was sooooo ahead of His time, sooooo ALONE in His quests…SOOOOO BEAUTIFUL Hearted !!! THAT THEY TORMENTED HIM AND DROVE HIM TO THE POINT OF INSANITY

      You are right ! I stand corrected, I have slandered His integrady with a hasty conclusion…See, I realy Loved Him….but He didnt Love me. You got me dead to rights Joe, and, I am greatfull for Your response

      Please say that You will forgive Me., Yes of course I read all of His stuff, THAT makes me twice a guilty of slander upon this GREAT Man.

      Joe Reply:

      Although I have no right to forgive anyone, if it will ease your mind… you are forgiven, as I am sure Bill has forgiven you. Don’t let his words die in vain! Continue his fight! He used to talk about this woman named Vicky on his radio shows, who he had a falling out with. He loved her but felt betrayed by her. Dont become Vicky.

    69. mshort Says:

      LOL>>>>LOL>>>>>>>

    70. Tim(Iowa) Says:

      If One studies all who are known to be involved with illuminists theologies?
      One finds people eventually circummig to satanism or occult death worship. The Light being Lucifers lying Light of deception.
      Or? The Knowledge God the Creator did not give to them, The fallen sons of God that followed Lucifer to Earth.

      I just gasp/sigh, when I hear people say Jesus sucks , etc. They donot understand what they are saying……

      I Should Have Taken The Blue Pill Reply:

      Good words Tim.

      Joe Reply:

      I HAVE HAD IT WITH THESE DISCUSSION BOARDS, I WEIGHED IN ON THIS AND GAVE MY PERSPECTIVE AND GOD FORBID I MUST BE RIGHT BECAUSE GUESS WHAT…

      IT WAS REMOVED!!!!!

      I Should Have Taken The Blue Pill Reply:

      Sorry…didn’t get a chance to read them.

      Joe Reply:

      everytime i post it gets blocked. Im pissed off. So unless you give out your email, you will probably never hear what I have to say. I dont understand why Alex Jones and his site moderators have such a problem with me talking about the mystery schools of the illuminati!

      bar abbas = son of god Reply:

      Yep, it happens alot and especially when certain issues are discussed and moreso when those issues are discussed in detail. Ive seen this site call it “editing”, thats what the people here working the boards call it. They dont like to call themselves to be engaged in censoring, they put a different label on it; editiing. Well la-dee-la-dee-da…the govt isnt censoring the internet….theyre EDITING.

      Its like how like team Obama will takea Bush era plan and keep it, then by applying a different label to…we’re supposed to buy into it that a label CHANGES EVERYTHING.

      Overworld Reply:

      I hear ya Joe, that happened to me yesterday, this site rejected my post repeatedly with extreme prejudice, VERY FRUSTRATING!

      Overworld Reply:

      Tim, they are just thinking according to the tree of the knowledge of good and evil { rejecting Gods’ wisdom and deciding for ourselves according to our own corrupt minds } and in doing so are proving the Bible correct. Just look around and you will see that we all do it, myself included, although I try not to because I know better, and some do it more than others. We are all basically proving God’s point for him, and the state of this world testifies against us.

    71. Tim(Iowa) Says:

      Stipid Liberals say; I’m pro-Life but you women that don’t want your children inside you, have a right to kill them, because they maybe to expensive to feed or whatever excuse they can come up with.

      The Liberal says………..Murder is okay if ya do it they way we find it the most tolerable.

      Overworld Reply:

      Exactly, it starts with the babies because they are easy prey, they will eventually move on to the rest of us, abortion and eugenics are synonomous. Anyone who supports abortion but is against eugenics is a hypocrite, Doesn’t feel too good being on the receiving end of the knife.

    72. The Corporations official spokesman Says:

      Don’t worry America, everything is under control, The Beloved Mother Hillary has a plan and the power to back it up. She will take care of us.

    73. den Says:

      Be honest, who besides some black people really want more black people?
      Ok brainwashed made to feel constantly guilty self deniers, let me have it. How wrong i am and how mean that statement is.
      More crime? How about more squalor, more coraling and herding? More induced resentment and ignorant reactionary behavior? Just what society needs more of.

    74. we must start the revolution now Says:

      emergency !!!!!!!! if anyone has listened to the youtube video called, bird flu being shipped by home land security,,, well if no one believes the video here is the proof… there actually is 30 miles of trains sitting on the tracks to hold dead bodies.. the government is in the process of depopulation we must start the revolution now and overthrow the government before its to late we dont have much time left..
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UcLoHWKxes…

    75. chesterr Says:

      most people on earth were racist and ignorant in 1700s…Gen Patton didnt think the coloreds were smart enough to be in a tank battalion and he knew rapes would go up in the occupied towns they were in…he was at least right about the sex assualts and he did give them a chance to prove themselves….he told them “dont let your race down and g-damnit dont let me down?….just as long as they did a good job is all he cared about…as far as i know they did ok

    76. Mac-101 Says:

      What is so surprising that a leftist would idolise someone who is patrtialy responsible for the murder of hundreds of millions of babies around the world? She undobtedly outdid Hitler, maybe Stalin, and in a couple more years have more babies murdered than Mao had people killed. The left worships death!

      Overworld Reply:

      I agree, but you also find prolife democrats and proabortion republicans. Very few prolife politicians stand firm on the issue, it’s usually whatever is politically expedient.

    77. The Beagle Deception!!!! Says:

      Homey’s in da’ house!!! Yo’Yo’Yo’ economics bro’s!!! The “NEW” sheriff of Rock Ridge got’s it goin’ on!!! Word up!!! Thermally f---in’ Expand on that folks!!!

    78. The Beagle Deception!!!! Says:

      STFU already!!!

    79. we must start the revolution now Says:

      sorry wrong url here is the proof of bird flu video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A25bJVRoPfU

    80. Rich Says:

      The bottom line on this is…….. It is up to the states to decide on this issue!!!!! This issue is NOT in the federal jurisdiction!!!! Read the 10th amendment. just who does the federal gov think they are??? They are playing along with the globalists in TREASON. P.S. most of the “comments” on this string are just ludicrous.

    81. Norm Says:

      Has anyone heard THE SWINE FLU REPORTS YET???

      Why isn’t this on infowars? It’s all over MSM!

      Alex Jones + Hard Rock = “We The Sheep” Go listen!
      http://www.myspace.com/fanzamar

    82. we must start the revolution now Says:

      never mind they wont let me put the video up they keep changing the url… they love censoring

    83. jc Says:

      This bitch is evil and I guess the cats out of the bag heh

    84. Joseie Says:

      I am going to tell you all something and this will not go down well with the bible thumpers so please do not reply if you are one, everyone knows what you think already!!!!!

      The reptilian aliens are thus and I know this from abductions so please just listen and be quiet…. you don’t all know everything alright!!!

      Stargate the TV series, especially season one and two and alien the movies are the closest the Illuminati have come to telling you all the truth, they are a twist on the truth but pretty close.
      The truth is thus we have been genetic manipulated to suit the purpose of the reptilians and I am going to make it really brief and simple here. The reptilians are a hive race, they are mostly males and have a few queens. The males are like seahorses in that it is them that take care of their young. This is why they have been mistaken for being hermaphrodites, which they are not. They are about twelve feet tall and have a pouch much like a kangaroo and in this pouch they have a large droopy breast much like the one Hapy of Egypt mythology has except it is at the top of the inside of the pouch, they also have Hapy’s large extended belly. How they breed is thus, the queen inserts the fertilized egg into a female human and the male carries the female around in his pouch and feeds her via his nipple, she never eats or drinks any normal food from this point onward. This is why we humans are hairless as the repilians don’t like hair and why humans go against what it is to be mammal which is to have a covering to keep their heat in with.

      Anyway that is the very brief rundown. There is far more but most people have their ears shut and refuse to let anybody tell them anything, lets see how you cope with this much. If you think about it, this is very much like vampires movies and he does fly and has arms like a Pterosaur but their hands are more useful and wings slightly different.

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      I am a NON-reptilian Bible thumper, and I authoruize any truthers to bring light to this reptilian thingy that Joe-Sie has to say.
      Joesie, you are so full of fecal matter that your eyes are BROWN!
      you are so deluded by the evolutionists that you actually ascribe to the existence of Noveratu. “If you think about it, this is very much like vampires movies and he does fly and has arms like a Pterosaur but their hands are more useful and wings slightly different.”

      Sorry, I acutally THOUGHT about it.
      NOSVERATU EIS UN SWEINHUNDT, and more bull feces, a delusion of your warped Master’s mind.

      Billary is posessed. If any faithful are listening and disseminating, they will understand.
      For the likes of Joesie, well, worship the crystals, and burn the insence, and hope that you prayed enough to Allah, ’cause that is, I guess, your only New-Age hope to figure this stuff out.

      Joseie Reply:

      Up yours!!! And you lot wonder why people keep quiet and don’t say anything, it’s because assholes like you what to keep spurting the same old bulls---.

      I Should Have Taken The Blue Pill Reply:

      Man, take that alien crap elsewhere.

      Joe Reply:

      If you want the real story, (not this reptillian hoax that they are using to distract you) give me your email.

      Joseie Reply:

      I taking the information to a different forum site because the people here are assholes and shallow minded.

      Joe Reply:

      All they need to do is look at the words of Adam Weishaupt to see that….

      Of all the means I know to lead men, the most effectual is a concealed mystery.
      Adam Weishaupt

      Oh mortal man, is there anything you cannot be made to believe?
      Adam Weishaupt

      But alas, they are all sadly deficient, because they leave us under the domination of political and religious prejudices; and they are as inefficient as the sleepy dose of an ordinary sermon.
      Adam Weishaupt

      Joseie Reply:

      You lot are a bunch of morons, one of these days your eyes will be opened because they say in the end, all will know the truth, f--- are you lot in for a surprise Ahahah

      I Should Have Taken The Blue Pill Reply:

      still don’t understand your point

      Joseie Reply:

      That’s because you’re an idiot!

      Warrior Priestess GrandMa Reply:

      Josie, Grand Ma knows something of this particular reptile species that you are talking about. The problem is that there are many different species that have been liveing in the middle of Earth, and, underground up intil reciently as they are being driven out by the collapsing of the reality there in the center of Earth, and, undreground.

      There is much acceptance for Your experiance with these hiddious creatures over on http://www.educate-yourself.org Ken Adachie understands

      Here on this site the People are working on the political issues, and some are “christians” who like the cleaned up version of everything ONLY…..The guys on this site are not realy, shall we say, whole enough to look at the REAL HORROR of the alian thing, too much of a load for them i guess. besides they already have SOOOO much on their plate .

      ALOT of Us KNOW about the whole alian thingie, we just dont talk about it here in mixed company, but, yeah, the groop You speek of are just the very tip of this “alian,” iceberg.

      YIKES !!

      Please go tell Ken Your story

      Overworld Reply:

      Just more proof that alot of people get their beliefs from TV and movies. I like my Bible BIG, better to THUMP the lies with! Yes, you will know the truth in the end.

    85. uzi does it! Says:

      why is he sucking up to this golem?

    86. Zero Says:

      They have know idea what will be in store for them, once they over step their boundaries. Retribution and revenge will reign down upon them, and none will be spared. No, those who seek to have their revenge will have their justice.

    87. MontgomeryScott Says:

      Seriously, Hillary thinks Margaret Sanger is a founding mofather?
      WHAT DID YOU EXPECT, roses and hearts at the funeral of our country?
      “I see your true colors,
      Shining through.
      Your True Colors,
      That’s why I detest yiou!”

    88. JT Says:

      At this point and time, I’m not even sure anyone in Washington DC should even have the right to mention Thomas Jefferson, except for Ron Paul of course.

    89. I Should Have Taken The Blue Pill Says:

      truther…..you would get better response and more dialogue if you didn’t spam the boards and instead discussed specific topics.

    90. jm Says:

      Did any of you morons actually listen to what Hillary Clinton said? There are many people who have made significant contributions to human affairs and have had major character flaws at the same time – Thomas Jefferson had a black slave as his mistress – so what! it does not invalidate his remarkable contributions to the foundation of the US. Grow up and quit taking things out of context and exxagerating them – it trivializes your reputation in things that do matter and need to be exposed.

      Abraham Smith Reply:

      Totally agree.

      Overworld Reply:

      So what commendable contributions to society did margaret sanger provide exactly?

      jm Reply:

      Listen to the Clinton reply – it’s just a click away.

      Overworld Reply:

      I’m sorry, Margaret Sangers murderous beliefs completely overwhelms any good she might have done, you have to draw the line somewhere.

      uchikoma Reply:

      Yes but sanger has no redeeming features at all you “everything is up for interpretation” – global village idiot.

      jm Reply:

      People who see everything as black and white miss 90% of reality – I can understand being disgusted with Eugenics, but there are real contributions that Sanger brought to the empowerment and emancipation of women in general, and Clinton was acknowledging this. That’s about all there really is to this discussion.

      A good mind is interested in ideas, a mediocre mind is interested in only people and gossip.

      Overworld Reply:

      What is she remembered for most, what is she most associated with, abortion, that is her true legacy and it is evil. And what kind of mind likes to marginalize other minds? You may disagree with others but you shouldn’t make blanket judgements on a persons mind as a whole.

      joe blow Reply:

      yeah Adolph Hitler did some good things too

    91. Mike Says:

      truther,

      I’m really tired of this ill-informed Catholic bashing. The sacraments ARE necessary as the Early Church Fathers, who were taught by the original Apostles, practiced in a Eucharistic, Sacramental, and Liturgical fashion. These are the same people who decided which books of the Bible were inspired by God by their passed down TRADITION. Any reference to political corruption within the Church (which I do not deny) is irrelevant with respect to the truth of WORSHIP practices. For more reinforcement, look into the Marian apparitions of Garabandal on YouTube.

      Overworld Reply:

      You seem to be ill informed and well indoctrinated. People tend to accept a belief system and then defend it at all cost. No offense intended, I used to do the same thing. Question eveything, especially your own motives and thought processes, do you really want the truth or only if it lines up with what you already believe? The bible says to examine yourself and that those who perish do so because they refuse the truth and love a lie. Prove all things, hold fast that which is good.

      Mike Reply:

      Overworld,

      You just said the exact opposite of what I’m doing. I’m citing the early Church Fathers (1st to 5th century) to support my Denomination’s worship practices. How much more objective can I get? I even brought in modern Marian apparitions as a current check on my beliefs. There is my “proof” (evidence I would say), so address me on those lines, and not vague epistemological points that don’t even apply to me.

      Here are some Bible verses in addition to the Early Church Fathers:

      John 21:25
      But there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written.

      (Scripture only a small part of what Jesus taught. Tradition of the first Apostles carried on most of the rest)

      2 Tim 3:14-17
      But continue thou in those things which thou hast learned, and which have been committed to thee: knowing of whom thou hast learned them; And because from thy infancy thou hast known the holy scriptures, which can instruct thee to salvation, by the faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice, That the man of God may be perfect, furnished to every good work.

      (Scripture = Old Testament here. New Testament not written yet…)

      2 Thes 2:14
      Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle.

      (Tradition. Paul taught mainly by word of mouth, not by writing letters)

      bar abbas = son of god Reply:

      What “traditions” ?

      Do you know what “Ehyeh asher ehyeh” is translated to? It means ” I am who I am “.

      Do you know why this Moses supposedly asked his new Midianite mounatin god / god of war this question? Because in Egypt, Moses was an active meber of the Egyptian Royal family. From even you bible; ” Acts 7:22.. ” Moses was learned in all the Wisdom of the Egyptians.”. Moses was a part of Egyptian culture and it’s prctices & customs. he knew that by having a name applied to a ‘god’, some gods can be basically enslaved by man.

      His new god then apparently let it be known that if any “Israelite” or one of their animals set foot on this mounatin where god lives[d], that they will be stoned or shot thru. The new god demanded to be worshipped and if not, then the children, grandchildren and beyond would suffer vengeance. This new god also demanded the “Israelites” give him gold, linen, silver, brass, acacia and to build an ark to be covered in gold so he could live in the ark.

      Your christinaity goes directly back to ancient Egypt and you dont even know it or even care to know it.

      Mike Reply:

      That whole spiel was a complete red herring. I’m talking about the Traditions passed down to the Early Church that were taught to the Apostles by Jesus (see John 21:25), who then taught the early Church Fathers. I made no reference to Old Testament Tradition, although Paul does say that the Scripture of the Old Testament is inspired by God.

      Please address me on the points I made: The early Church Fathers and New Testament passages.

      bar abbas = son of god Reply:

      ‘early Church Fathers ‘? Are you speaking of the Qumranians, the Nasoreans or the Jerusalem Church. Thre are many so-called founders spread throughout the MidEast for 5000 years. Yer ‘Gentile’ beliefs that cam on the heels of the Roman invasion / occupation is simply an offshoot from the “Jewish” beliefs.

      It appears to you as a ‘red herring’ because you have a limted knowledge of historical facts of the Mid East and ‘foreign’ influence.

      Do you even know the true meaning of ‘messiah’ and how it related to that time period?

      Mike Reply:

      bar abbas = son of god,

      I’m talking about those found in the books the Ante-Nicene Fathers, who developed doctrine and fought heresy before the first Church council. I don’t doubt your historical knowledge of the Old Testament, but your points were red herrings as they had nothing to do with the Tradition passed to the Apostles down from Jesus. You went on a tangent about the tradition of the Jewish people. Let’s keep the dialogue limited to the Tradition of the early Church and relevant Scripture and not intellectual one-upmanship.

      Mike Reply:

      bar abbas = son of god,

      I’m talking about those found in the books the Ante-Nicene Fathers, who developed doctrine and fought heresy before the first Church council. I don’t doubt your historical knowledge of the Old Testament, but your points were red herrings as they had nothing to do with the Tradition passed to the Apostles down from Jesus. You went on a tangent about the tradition of the Jewish people. Let’s keep the dialogue limited to the Tradition of the early Church and relevant Scripture and not intellectual one-upmanship.

      barabbas = son of god Reply:

      Sorry Mike, on behalf on Infowars. My reply was not allowed so therefore it was censored / completely edited.

      bar abbas = son of god Reply:

      Worng and even Alex Jones has no clue of an ‘origin’.

      Overworld Reply:

      And also you said you were citing early church fathers, I said you were indoctrinated and I stand by my point, you interpret the scriptures through your catholic glasses, I did the same thing except they were baptist glasses. As far as marian apparitions go they are clearly demonic. step outside of your religion and try to see things objectively. Above all, ask the messiah to reveal to you if what I am saying is true, if you are sincere he will, it is him you have to answer to not me, and I wouldn’t say anything if I didn’t care.

      Mike Reply:

      Overworld,

      How do you justify Marian apparitions as “clearly demonic”? We must judge anything supernatural by their fruits as Jesus told us do to, and what evil has come from Marian apparitions? Those at Garabandal, for example, told four peasant children to think about the passion of Jesus, to pray for priests, and to visit Jesus in the Eucharist frequently. How is this evil? The basis of your statement probably stems from the assumption that the Catholic Sacraments and/or worship practices are evil (from my experience this is always the assumption of Protestants). However, I am backing up the legitimacy of Marian apparitions historically and scripturally by citing relevant passages from the New Testament and the Tradition passed down from the Apostles to the early Church Fathers. This cannot be said to be a mere Catholic bias because I’m going all the way back to the roots of Christianity, which all denominations should agree on. I’m trying to find common ground, and expand that ground for those who don’t even know it’s there.

      barabbas = son of god Reply:

      Mike, you do realize that the early Christian Church ( Catholicism ) runs counter to the Jewish theology that was already established in and around Jerusalem and inparts of the greater Middle East?

      The term ’son of god’ is an ancient term used to signify that anyone claiming kingship, has his right to rule. It was the christain / catholic sect of that time period who took from Jewish theology and injected the term to be used in a literal sense.

      The Gentiles basicaly hi-jacked Jewish tribal beliefs that were already established and this began in earnest around the second century. They quoted from Jewish texts but developed them for their own purposes. Christiaas inserted new ‘biblical’ passages and even removed those of obviously Jewish theological texts. Even in 1242 in Paris whole carts of Jewish scriptures were publicly burned after beeing stolen from Jewish synagogues.

      The Jewish term of messiah and the Christian term of messiah have nearly nothing at all in common.

      Mike Reply:

      barabbas = son of god,

      I’ve never heard of any of this before. Can you provide any primary texts that back up your point. (Specifically from the second century, as you say it goes back that far)?

      I also don’t see how this is relevant to the writings of the early Church Fathers, most of whom learned from Paul, Peter, and James, who were all former Jews and not Gentiles. How could they corrupt Jewish tribal ideas with such solid Jewish backgrounds?

      Overworld Reply:

      Mike, for one thing, the catholic church has set mary up as an intercessor between their faithful and their messiah Which completely contradicts the scriptures. Look, I’m not just picking on the catholic church, I’m saying the protestant denominations are also out of line with the scriptures and actually are following much catholic doctrine like the veneration of sunday as the lords day, although most reject such a notion. The Messiah said the Spirit of truth would lead us into all truth, not the church, he also said that not all that call him Lord will enter into the kingdom but he would say away from me you workers of iniquity, the word for iniquity is Anomia, which means without Law e.g. changing the Sabbath to sunday etc. I would explain more but this is a lengthy subject and half the time my comments don’t post.

      Mike Reply:

      Overworld,

      If Mary is the one who brought the Holy Ghost down to earth with the words “Let it be done according to thine will” (Fiat Mihi Secundum Verbum Tuum) and housed Jesus in her womb, then is she not the most obvious intercessor between us and Jesus? However, rather than debating this sort of theology, I would FIRST ask that you PLEASE look into DATA you have not considered yet. The Ante-Nicene Fathers makes it very clear the early Church immediately after the Apostles worshiped as Catholics do today. We need to look at actual data before we go off on interpretive tangents on topics like Mary and why Sunday was made the Sabbath (Christ rose from the dead on Sunday). Please, let’s bracket them off and look at more foundational data, or else we’ll never get anything settled.

      Also, I’m not reading any secondary sources you send me that bash the Church and base their arguments on ambiguous symbols and highly interpretive photographs (For example, the Pope has a duty to dialogue with other religions and where in the world can it be shown that his cross is satanic?). I’m 100% confident that the primary source writings of the early Church Fathers support a Eucharistic, Sacramental, and Liturgical Church, where primacy is given to the Bishop of Rome. This data undermines 99.9% of secondary source, highly interpretive, symbol dependant, Catholic bashing propaganda I have come across, and, after skimming it, your link fits that bill. (Being familiar with Texe Marrs, I have read it all before and don’t need to go back there again. He already tricked me once, as I am willing to look into anything. I have since refuted his stance on Catholicism with better data).

      Overworld Reply:

      http://www.godsonlygospel.com/.....ction2.htm Mike, here is a good link you can check out.

      Overworld Reply:

      http://www.godsonlygospel.com/.....anity2.htm Mike, here’s the home page.

      Mike Reply:

      As I said above…

      Overworld Reply:

      Mike, with all due respect, I do not care what the Ante Nicene fathers had to say or any other so called church father, I only care what the whole Bible has to say and there is absolutely no scriptural authority for making mary an intercessor or changing the Sabbath because messiah rose on the first day of the week, these are purely the inventions of men who have no authority to do such things. At any rate, it sounds like you are convinced and you are not going to change my mind so I will simply say thank you for a cordial debate. Regards, Todd.

      Mike Reply:

      One more thing. The problem with taking the Bible alone (sola scriptura) and ignoring the very people who put it together is that there is no place in the Bible itself that tells one to take that strict view. Besides, we would not even have the Bible as we know it today if it weren’t for the Ante-Nicene Fathers, who decided which Gospels and letters were inspired by God by using what the Apostles taught them (Tradition) as a guide. So it turns out that Tradition is absolutely necessary to Scripture, and this opens up a wide array of writings by the very relevant early Church Fathers.

      Overworld Reply:

      Tell that to William Tyndale who was burned at the stake by the catholic church for the “heresy” of translating the scriptures into the common language, and there were many more like him that suffered at the hands of the roman church that wasn’t even formed until the 3rd century when constantine formed his state religion and purged everything “Jewish” from it, including the Jewish Messiah and created a paganized, gentile religion that did not and does not even resemble the true Biblical worship of the Messiah, the Apostles etc. History is littered with the murdered bodies of this corrupt religion, it is not of God. Sorry to be so blunt but when I see someone so fervently defend such an abomination it saddens me.

      Mike Reply:

      You completely ignored my points and went for a red herring. While I am grieved by the political corruptness of the Church throughout history, the fact remains that my defense of Catholic WORSHIP PRACTICES remains valid.

      What really saddens ME is how Catholic bashers miss out on the Sacraments (ESPECIALLY the Eucharist), where instead they would rather be intellectually lazy and ignore the best points Catholic would make. They constantly hammer away at side issues like political corruption or individual acts of evil while never addressing the matter of early Church worship practices, or how the same people that had such similar practices as Catholics put the New Testament Bible together by using the Tradition passed down to them from Jesus as a guide.

      I made a very good point above that undermines sola scriptura, and I would appreciate it if you at least considered my evidence and reasoning.

      Overworld Reply:

      Mike, one more thing , I can’t believe that you say that what you have in the catholic church was passed down from the Messiah. The Messiah Kept the Hebrew Torah and so did the Apostles, does the catholic church? Absolutely not. Messiah kept the Feasts of YHWH, does the catholic church? No. Messiah kept the seventh day Sabbath, does the catholic church? No they do not. I could go on but you get the picture, and all this from the testimony of the scriptures alone. I believe it was Paul that spoke of false apostles that went out from among them, and he also said if anyone preached another gospel or another messiah or another spirit than let them be eternally condemned! pretty strong words, therefore if something contradicts the scriptures it must be rejected. The church of rome presents a gentile, pagan, torah breaking messiah that does not even resemble the true Hebrew Messiah, for there is ONE name under heaven by which we must be saved, Yahshua the Messiah, not mary.

      Mike Reply:

      So you’re saying that the writings in the Ante-Nicene Fathers (ANF) are to be rejected because they contradict the Bible? Are you basing this on the assumption that the writings found in the ANF were written by those rogue Apostles you casually mention, or do you have specifics where there is Biblical contradiction? When it comes down to it, I’m merely arguing for the validity of the Sacraments, so how do they contradict the Bible? They don’t, and your whole argument is speculative and in fact self-referentially contradictory because it was PAUL who deviated from Jewish beliefs in the first place. He had debated James on whether Christianity was to be an offshoot of Judaism or something new and Paul was the one who got away from a lot of the food laws. I’ll have to look into the other more radical deviations from Judaism later (I promise I will too, but I want you to promise to look into the ANF or get a run down from the interviews in the link below). My points about the Sacraments still stand completely untouched.

      No one is worshiping Mary! I’M SO SICK AND TIRED OF SAYING THIS. I’VE SAID IT A MILLION TIMES, BUT YOU CATHOLIC BASHERS LOVE TO SET UP WEAK REPRESENTATIONS TO KNOCK DOWN! Please look into actual Catholic doctrine from people that actually present evidence and reasoning that is representative of the best arguments. The show The Journey Home is a good place to start. They always have people on who are extremely intelligent and have converted to the Catholic Church. Some of them were even extreme Catholic bashers beforehand. http://www.ewtn.com/vondemand/.....&pgnu=

      Overworld Reply:

      Mike, I have done alot of research on the catholic church so I won’t bother with your link, and I will not hide my contempt for the catholic church theologically and historically, however I do not have contempt for catholics like yourself, just wanted to make that distinction. First, I think you misinterpret The teachings of Paul, Which is a common error, even Peter addressed this when he said that many things that Paul taught were hard to understand and unlearned men twisted to their own destruction and the destruction of their hearers. The messiah said it was easier for heaven and earth to pass than for one jot to disappear from the law, and also elsewhere he said not one jot or tittle would disappear until heaven and earth passed and all is fulfilled, obviously heaven and earth are still here. Now let’s address the eucharist, simply put this is the Passover, that was the whole point, he was the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world, he was the ultimate fulfillment of this feast of YHWH, he was saying do this in remembrance of me, the unleavened bread and wine REPRESENT his body and his blood, Paul says Messiah our Passover is sacrificed for us, therefore let us keep the feast 1Cor5:7,8. The catholic church has completely stripped the Hebraic meaning from this in the eucharist and then on top of that makes the claim that the priest actually turns the bread and wine into the actual flesh and blood of messiah in some wierd cannibalistic ritual. but as far as I’m concerned the sacraments are merely the tip of the iceberg, for me there are other problems that are much more glaring, like the blatant paganism of christmas and easter for example which is strictly forbidden throughout scripture, as a matter of fact it is a theme. Also the changing of Commandments like the Sabbath which is a sign between Israel and YHWH, Exodus31:12-17. Now, the new covenant is with the house of Israel and the house of Judah rejoined and YHWH writing his law on their hearts Jer31:31-37. In Romans chapter eleven, Paul clearly teaches that the gentiles are graffed into Israel. So, the new covenant is with the members of the house of Israel that are in Messiah and the gentiles that are graffed into Israel through the Messiah. YHWHs’ covenant is with Israel and always has been, he has no covenant with any so called church. Also, translating Ekklesia as church is a poor rendering, it is better translated as Congregation or called out Assembly, in Acts7:38 the word church is used in reference to Israel in the wilderness. If you are going to respond to this please use my email address overworld7@yahoo.com for it is easier than using this site and my replies don’t always post and it’s a real hassle.

      Mike Reply:

      I really have nothing left to say if you’re going to completely disregard my data, which undermines your positions on the Sacraments, and continue to raise side issues. Once the Sacrament “door” is opened all of your other criticisms of the Church (with the exception of the Eucharist, which my position is supported by the same people who put the very Bible you’re incorrectly interpreting together… How can you think your interpretation is better than the early Church Fathers?), even if hypothetically correct, are minor. When you have the time and are feeling more humble please have a look at the stuff I sent you and the texts I referenced. Barring that, at least wiki some of the early Fathers like Clement or Irenaeus.

      Also, yes, Paul intended for the Church to be grafted onto Judaism, but James disputed his position, foreseeing it becoming its own entity. Who then was correct between these two gigantic authorites?

      I would rather not e-mail this response, but I appreciate your offer.

      Overworld Reply:

      Mike, I believe you have side stepped many of my points also, and what you call political corruption and individual acts of evil I would call systematic murder, torture, oppression, persecution etc. The catholic church always imposed their will by intimidation, fear, force etc. and that was their mode of operation until they were met in kind and stopped by force. You said yourself that you will know a tree by the fruit it produces, and they produced some rotten fruit for many centuries, therefore it is not a red herring as you say but just another reason of many to reject the catholic church. You seem to hold the writings of the church fathers in the highest esteem, high and above everything else, but of course they are going to teach that everything they do is valid, every religion does that, what I am saying is to simply step outside your religion and look at some other sources, that’s what I did, because I wanted the truth, I asked the Messiah to show me the truth and I believe he did and boy how surprised I was to find out how deceived I had been, and he is still showing me things, whenever we think we have our theology all lined up and set out to defend it we are closed off from learning anything new. I will restate my main point, ask the Messiah to show you the truth and if you are SINCERE then he will, But if you think you have it all figured out than by all means build a fortress around it and defend it at all cost. I cannot change anyone’s mind, only the Messiah can do that and only if we are willing, so I do not wish to engage in a theological tit for tat because that would be a waste of time. overworld7@yahoo.com

      Mike Reply:

      I have already prayed the prayer that you have suggested in the past, and I have already worried over the murders of the Catholic Church and some of her doctrines. However, I have since come to realize that she is the Church of history. That being said, I bracket the historical validity of the Church’s worship practices into a separate category than the evil acts that were carried out from the top down, which is hardly a collected effort by the majority of Catholics. The murders you speak of were the evil acts of a free man with a lot of power, who happened to be Pope. If you’re going to look at fruits you have to look at the majority of PRACTICING Catholics, not a few in the past that have had enormous political power, which tends to corrupt ANY organization. Stick to investigating the history of the Church’s worship practices, and you will reach a very different conclusion. This is not side stepping, it is understanding the relation of ideas and which are foundational.

      Overworld Reply:

      Obviously we are on completely different pages and the biblical reasons I give mean nothing to you as you would rather listen to the church fathers. As far as them putting the bible together, first they didn’t write any of it and I believe the catholic bible was based on different manuscripts than the King James, Textus Receptus vs Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus, this is another subject altogether.

      Mike Reply:

      I’ll respond to this by e-mail.

      Overworld Reply:

      You said that paul intended for the church to be graffed onto judaism… You completely misunderstood everything I said.

      Mike Reply:

      Not so much, I was generally referring to how Paul saw followers of “The Way” (Christianity) related to Judaism. This would include Gentile believers in Christ.

      Warrior Priestess GrandMa Reply:

      The catholics are all involved with UNTHINKABLE evil

      The catholics are all involved with UNTHINKABLE evil

      nanny nanny na na

      and always have been

      Mike Reply:

      If you are referring to worship practices of Catholicism then what you said is tantamount to calling the practices of the Church from 1st to 5th century evil. Is the Tradition of the Apostles passed down to them by Jesus evil?

      ProphetPX Reply:

      Just how do you justify that “Catholic sacraments” are necessary based on the fact that the Apostles taught the early Church Fathers? Obviously the Apostles taught the early church fathers, but how does that prove the legitimacy of the Catholic sacraments?

      Seriously I do not see how you connect those 2 (seemingly to me, DISPARATE) ideas?
      I hope we at least agree that: abortion (murder) = eugenics = rebellion against God = Sin?

      Mike Reply:

      ProphetPX,

      I’m saying the Sacraments are necessary because the Tradition of the early Church is just as valid as Scripture, and the Sacraments were a huge part of the early Church. This is true because we wouldn’t even have the New Testament today if not for the early Church Fathers, who decided which Gospels and letters were inspired by God by using the Tradition passed down to them as a guidepost. Let’s also not forget the very last passage in the Gospel of John, where he says, “But there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written”. This means that the Scriptures only contain a very small part of what Jesus taught, so we must necessarily go outside of them to receive the fullness of Christianity, which is found in the Catholic Church (namely in the Sacraments).

      Yes, we absolutely do agree that abortion and eugenics are evil.

      Joe Reply:

      No direspect to you Mike but I was referring to the Vatican. Not the catholic faith, it is the institutions involved that are corrupt. Priests are held to a higher degree then the regular congregation, which itself goes against Christ’s teachings. The teachings of Jesus are the most sound teachings in the existance of human kind, those of which I follow to the best of my ability, but I care not for the doctrine spewed forth by the vatican and its churches. If you have ever read the gnostic gospels you will see why I feel the way I do. The old Roman empire became the vatican and started to corrupt and degrade the teachings of christ. Vatican II is pure blasphemy.

      Mike Reply:

      Joe,

      Well, historically speaking, there was a hierarchy in the VERY early Church. It started with Jesus choosing Apostles, who were distinct from His disciples, and is made more evident when Peter was named as the foundation of Jesus’ Church. Not long after that the bishops and presbyters were practicing in a hierarchical fashion, where primacy was given to the Bishop of Rome. This is made fairly clear by St. Irenaeus in the Ante-Nicene Fathers. Here’s a wiki overview of him http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irenaeus (Remember, his ideas are VERY early and pre-Constantine)

      The problem with trusting a book like the Gnostic Gospels is that Biblical historians usually rejected their accuracy because they do not conform to Paul, whose letters are the earliest known written records. Paul and the Tradition of the very early Church are the guide posts for a scripture’s legitimacy, and the Gnostic Gospels fall short.

      I’m also not a big fan of Vatican II, but I wouldn’t say “pure’ blasphemy. Marian apparitions still seem to affirm the legitimacy of the Church and her administration of the Sacraments (see Garabandal).

    92. The Gibroney Hunter Says:

      So infowars is against birth control? That’s f---in dumb. Maybe I’ll send Alex a wadded up tissue full of my spunk, and he can try to save the precious babies. Pro-Life = Anti-Woman and opposition to abortion is for silly superstitious people. The decision to give birth should lie with the female. If it did, it’d be easier for us to return to a matriarchal society, which is the human animal’s natural state, in terms of social structure. Alex and many other religionists seem to completely miss the fact that militant control asserted over reproductive and sexual freedom is a much more valuable weapon to the New World Order than some thin-stretched notion of eugenics through womens’ rights. Abortion isn’t murder. Everyone has the right to die with dignity. Religion is for cavepeople.

      Mac-101 Reply:

      It starts out with abortion then it becomes euthanization. Next it is culling people who do not have a net worth to society. See ya at a Soliet Green recycling ceter or more likely a FEMA Camp.

      Overworld Reply:

      Who said anything about birth control? Are you just trying to manipulate the conversation or are you saying that abortion as birth control is ok? Either way, there is no reasoning with people like you, Gibroney Hunter.

      ProphetPX Reply:

      Gibroney, IF pro-life is anti-woman then why were you born? Your momma coulda aborted you and we wouldn’t have to hear your heresy. Per your own reasoning, your very birth alone was ANTI-yo mama! According to that kind of reasoning your mother would have been better off not having you as a baby! Now come on, get real, it is so simple to understand!

      AJ is pro-life and I am happy to stand with him and agree.

      The decision to give birth is NOBODY’s decision …. it is a part of NATURE and WITHOUT abortion … is GOING to happen 1 way or the other!!! ABORTION is murder! Read my other posts on this thread and you can see why, if you can pull your head out of your ass long enough to listen with spiritual ears (but you might not have those anyway – find Jesus Christ first, the Author of Life, and then we’ll talk.)

      And contrary to your opinion about religion being for “Cave people”
      YOU Atheists also seem to miss the fact that WITHOUT ANY “religion” ever having come into society, to spiritually RESTRAIN the hearts and minds of SINFUL EVIL MANKIND (like you and I both!) we would have ALL DIED OUT A LONG TIME AGO from in-fighting and World War 1 would have happened thousands of years ago and we would barely be alive to this day.

      Obviously you are MISSING THE POINT when you say “the fact that militant control asserted over reproductive and sexual freedom is a much more valuable weapon to the New World Order than some thin-stretched notion of eugenics through womens’ rights.” = THEY ARE THE SAME THING! Eugenics IS IT’S OWN RELIGION OF MILITANT CONTROL over reproductive and sexual freedom!

      Abortion IS THE MURDER of a CONCEIVED HUMAN BEING and thus BETRAYS that baby’s rights and choices! IT IS MURDER. PERIOD.

      When you say “Everyone has the right to die with dignity.” I say, BABIES DESERVE TO LIVE AND BE BORN WITH DIGNITY TOO!

      When you say “Religion is for cavepeople.” I would remind you that MOST of the World History of noble and educated and spiritual leaders BENEFICIAL to mankind (including scientists, doctors, writers, educators, great thinkers, historic leaders, peacemakers, and the like …) WERE ALL RELIGIOUS and believed in 1 religion or another. And yes some WERE cave people but MOST OF THE REST were people who built up the very same society that you seem to be UNGRATEFUL for!

    93. SilverMasK7 Says:

      Perhaps, that is, haughtiness with persistent arrogance!

      Maybe I’m digressing from the topic now, and this is only my opinion, but doesn’t matter how heartfelt your expressions are, people will arrogant hearts will always response digressingly. For example like above … making incredibly silly quotations!

    94. Fear the Lizard People Says:

      why dont we take care of our own business, theres so many jobless americans w/o health care.

      oh ya thats right bringing the worlds population down to 1/2 billion is our main priority.

    95. Scott Webb Says:

      I wonder where she is within the witchcraft groups here http://www.youtube.com/watch?g.....re=related

    96. Tim(Iowa) Says:

      Joe If you use your back arrow sometimes you delete yourself.
      I don’t know what it is in the system that kicks the Post. I’ve done it to myself a few times before I figured it our.
      You have to refresh the page, then it kicks out sometimes even then. Post again.
      If it says you alreaDY SAID THAT? WAIT A FEW MINUTES.

    97. Scott Webb Says:

      Meanwhile skynews warns of deadly flu reaching into the USA http://tiny.cc/c0ubQ

      Lootus Maximus Reply:

      Swine Flu. A mixture of human, bird and swine virus.

      Sounds vaguely familiar, no?

      They caught the bastards trying to release it in the U.S.

      several months ago.

      Ingenious, eh? Turn it loose south of the border instead.

    98. Tim(Iowa) Says:

      I THINK THE HIGH VOLUME POSTING may be over running the servers ability

    99. Tim(Iowa) Says:

      I find sometimes my posts donot show up and someone else who posted right at the saem time as i did post will get logged wwhile mine will get kicked out.
      The Server just cannot handle it all at once

    100. Scott Webb Says:

      This is why people should UNDERSTAND why there is a delay :) http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/infowars.com

    101. Scott Webb Says:

      Cause for celebration me thinks ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....amp;fmt=18

    102. Tim(Iowa) Says:

      Scott Webb- Good Morning!- I got the coffee brewing. Ready for another day for the fight for Liberty & freedom? And to teach as many as we can, the truths!

      ; O )

      Scott Webb Reply:

      Same here matey……a nice organic coffee and some tunes in the background as i drop links and scan papers from around the world. It is great to see more and more of these Satan worshipping loones being exposed for the interbred scumbags they are :)

      Warrior Priestess GrandMa Reply:

      Thanks alot….compartmentalized sheep that i am….now i gotta have a cup of java ! : )

      Scott Webb Reply:

      I have just being looking at a 4 part vid over the last few days on what goes on behind the music industry……it has been done by the god squad and may put off a few from watching it for that reason……but the data within it makes me still want to link it as it gives major insight into how the power of lyrics within music and the icons created have a HUGE subliminal influence over youth.
      Here is part one….the rest are to the side of the vid …..They Sold Their Souls for Rock and Roll Part 1 – 4 http://video.google.co.uk/vide.....&hl=en

      Overworld Reply:

      Sold their souls is a great expose, I’ve got that on DVD, I have found that even non religious people are very open to it.

      Scott Webb Reply:

      Thanks for the feedback Overworld, i will put all 4 links up on Horizon then ;)

    103. Scott Webb Says:

      If we expose those who are helping the elites and the tactics they are using for various forms of mind control……we further weaken their power over all of us….and in doing so make us stronger…..knowing we are not alone in this :)

    104. jenkins Says:

      Ron Paul,
      Help us please. We need you in the White House. Things would be different if you had been treated fairly in our last election. Americans…wake up and lets put Congressman Paul in charge of our country when we vote again in the next presidential election. I believe that our next election will decide the fate of all of our futures. It’s up to us to change our future.

    105. Rittmeister Says:

      so Hillary is “pro death” (excluding her own posse of course).

    106. Shadow Dancer Says:

      While large segments of what is called the Christian Religion did murder in God’s name it is also written that God said they would be killing in his name thinking they are doing him a favor, but that is not necessarily limited to any one Religion, People’s or Nations.

      When the big land swipe as going on by your govt, according to my reading the Seventh Day Adventists thought your govt was the Beast of Revelation. So they were looking at things that were happening from a prophetic viewpoint. They didn’t stop what was happening, but they didn’t take part as far as I know in what was happening, nor condone what was happening.

      There are a prophetic researchers who consider you Nation is Mystery Babylon. Started when your Freemason founders planted their Branch of the New Order of the Ages in this land, the packaged it all up, marketed it, & sold it to you as America.

      They stated according to my reading that they patterned you Nation after Rome. Rome is considered a Beast Kingdom by many prophetic researches. God has already cast his Judgment upon any who worship the Beast, a Beast Kingdom, or Mystery Babylon & the Image of the Beast.

      Jesus did not teach religion. Jesus taught his Father’s Spiritual Kingdom that is not of the world of man, this world.

    107. Lootus Maximus Says:

      The only possible way Margaret Sanger could compare to Thomas Jefferson

      is in her looks.

      That’s one nasty coyote.

    108. Neocon Narc Says:

      Sometimes it takes me awhile to see the problems Alex brings to my attention.
      But this video has helped me see how hard they really are pushing for population reduction by a broad distribution.

      I do NOT know who Margaret Sanger is, but even this congressman agrees her views are corrupt.
      Unlike Missy, I do not praise Ted Bundy because he loved his mother, but had flaws about killing people.
      I too can change the subject when we are discussing a person you cannot defend efficiently.
      The fact is that abortion only happens to poor people unless there is a risk factor.
      That is why all the rich people are for eugenics.

      I am pro-abortion because poor people cannot always afford the medical bills.
      I also have friends looking to adopt but are blocked by planned parenthood because of their gene defects.
      You should always try to adopt first, I do NOT like Madonna, but feel she was a victim of these new policies.
      But if you are looking for liberty, then you must allow women in the U.S. that decision.
      Outside of the U.S. is none of our business. This is shameful!!!
      New World Order is code word for Global Dictatorship.

      I think our fore fathers would be upset to see the world we live in right now.
      Why wait for a tragedy to push a global agenda that has been talked about for over 40 years?
      Why make vaccinations and Flu shots mandatory?
      Why fight a war without an immediate threat to our country as a whole, not one event.
      We have not had another attack in over 8 years and yet liberties are still being taken away on such a basis that now Americans are in that category of terrorist.

      Alex Jones has your number!!!
      Even an idiot like myself can put the pieces together thanks to Alex putting all the pieces on the table that they hide.
      I agree with Alex approach that now they want the New World Order and are proclaiming it in the open.
      Let’s remind them that IT DOES NOT EXIST AND NEVER WILL. Remember..you told us only crazy people believe in NWO.
      And I am NOT for your ideals that you are trying to force on me and the world!!

      I really do wish you had an abortion Missy!!!! Because Chelsea looks like she was born with the Clinton inbred DNA defects!!!
      You might praise Margaret Sanger, but I think she would call you a fake!!!
      Just killing other people is not enough for eugenics, you have to practice at home what you preach in church.

      Overworld Reply:

      You are pro abortion because poor people cannot always afford the medical bills? Let’s take that line of reasoning one step further… so if you get sick and cannot afford the medical bills then is it ok to kill you? If not then you are saying you are of more value than the unborn, and make no mistake about it, that makes you no better than the eugenicists becuase that is exactly how they view you.

    109. anon Says:

      http://www.dakotavoice.com/200.....ger-award/

    110. American System Says:

      Yellow journalism with a distorted headline and then paragraph after paragraph about the history of Sanger. There is no story.
      Clinton didn’t ‘compare’ Sanger to Jefferson – she made a point.
      Politicians wax poetic name dropping scoundrels all the time because the American people are uneducated! Teddy Roosevelt was the father of the Fascist Environmentalist Movement and a British agent, yet politicians gush about “TR” and he’s on Mt. Rushmore! Harry Truman nuked the Japs who had surrenered to launch Bertrand Russell’s age of “Permanent War”, yet ohhh what a great president “Give Em Hall” Harry was.
      You wasted the readers’ time. And: You do yourselves a disservice as a news source. There was no story here! Kurt Nimmo is an excellent reporter – he backs up his stories with real meet. Maybe make him Editor.
      Infowars bashes Hillary, yet Ron Paul gets a free pass: What about Ron Paul’s gushing love of the foreign economic doctrine “Austrian Economics”? Austrian Economics, von Hayek, etc., is GREENSPAN Economics. I would have thought BRUNO pulling down his pants on Paul would’ve been a perfect opportunity to explore for the American people the other side of the coin of what “Austrian Economics” really is. It’s a FOREIGN DOCTRINE!

      jm Reply:

      Not to mention that Ron Paul is against a women’s reproductive rights – what’s up with that for a “Libertarian”? I though that Libertarians were against government interference in the private lives of citizens – this seems like a gross error on his part – reproductive rights are very personal and should be left to the personal jurisdiction of the individual. It fatally flawed his presidential bid in many peoles minds.

      ProphetPX Reply:

      RON PAUL is a MEDICAL DOCTOR, an OBSTETRICIAN! He has delivered 4,000 babies in his long medical career! He LOVES LIFE and he also loves the God-given LAWS OF NATURE that our Constitution was FOUNDED UPON! And so should you, or you would never have been born! You could have been aborted had your own mother preferred her own rights over YOURS!

      I don’t believe that the term “Reproductive rights” even existed before Roe vs. Wade!
      They are the sole jurisdiction of GOD and human beings should honor that!
      AND, in many OTHER people’s minds that only ENRICHED his presidential bid!

      jm Reply:

      “Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being”.

      Genesis 2:7

      As you can see from your religions standpoint, the Soul does not enter the body until after the birth happens. If you religious nut cases would actually read your own bible you would not have this issue with the fetus having rights as a person until they are actually born.

      It is the same with the other end of life – keeping brain dead humans alive is spiritual materialism – the Soul is not there any longer – and it is the Soul that is imortal – not the body, the body is just a vehicle for the Soul to operate in the physical world.

      When Christ raised people from the dead -they still eventually died, so it has never been about the body – it is about the Soul.

      This is what amazes me about you religious nut cases – you are the least spiritually aware people of all!

      AND please keep you religious opinion out of the public arena and allow others to have different points of view – especially when it concerns their own personal lives and choices. If a women does not want to have a baby then she should have the right to say no without the state or any other person dictating their opinion onto her body.

      Even if you don’t agree with her beliefs – she is not forcing you to have an abortion – so don’t have one! And please return the actual constitutionally guarnanteed right to her to stay out of her private affairs and not force her to carry out your beliefs in her body. You really do not understand what it really means to be an American and allow others thier personal freedoms – maybe you should go to Iran where religious bigotry is the goverments way.

    111. Billary Pods Says:

      The only pressing matter in this issue is which bitch possesses the most enticing, properly sculptured and attractive pair of female calves. Let’s see—Billary for some reason had her’s draped and hidden since you even heard about her; Sanger never exposed her’s to the public. What part of the populace do they want to punish to whet their appetite for control—-or maybe self-relief?

    112. ron no inside job paul Says:

      The powers control most the worlds gold and they control the price of what gold the people do have.

      So you should buy gold and we should go on their gold standard, right.

    113. Warrior Priestess GrandMa Says:

      My great great Grand Father was Samual Mudd, the doctor who set John Wilks Booth’s leg, after he shot Lincoln,and, went to prison a long time for being involved in the conspiracy.

      (my name is Mudd) ; )

      I, and, ALOT of other family members believe that he was probably guilty as sin, but can anyone tell me WHY ????? Dr,Mudd hated Lincoln and wanted him dead?

      Did my Grand Father LIKE the fed. or did he HATE the fed?

      Thanks

    114. wastelandsoldier Says:

      Yeah the tomas jefferson of murderers.lol.

    115. PeopleOnThisSiteRdumb Says:

      Ok this article is pretty stupid. What Clinton said made perfect sense, and she wasn’t really comparing the two people she was making a larger point.

      Also, Jefferson did own slaves, as did all the writers of the Constitution. A lot of people like to ignore that fact.

      ProphetPX Reply:

      Ben Franklin didn’t own slaves!

    116. Margie Says:

      I am not for eugenics you go back to he bedroom you doormant slut

    117. American System Says:

      THE issue NOW isn’t abortion – it’s how do we get out of Depression?
      How do we the people rise up and one by one force our so-called leaders to enact the kinds of measures and policies that can get us out of this $$$ mess.
      The answers? Ben Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, Mathew and Henry Carey, Lincoln, FDR, Kennedy – they knew the answers. One of the biggest lies is like Sinclair Lewis showed in IT CAN’T HAPPEN HERE: “These are special times with special problems and NEW SOLUTIONS are needed!” Bulls---. We know the answers. The Founders knew the answers. The COntinental Congress knew the answers.

      AMERICAN SYSTEM Economics. Find out about it!

      Sure, your representatives are corrupt, they’ll put on a phony show and pretend and do nothing – but only if we let them. Even Screwface Pelosi is facing the heat and now calling for a PECORA type investigation of the bailout. That’s a step forward.

      Call Congress – Investigate the Bailout FOR REAL!
      AND Demand American System Solutions! Find out what they are! Do you know?

      ProphetPX Reply:

      Interesting perspective!

    118. JECJAMEZ Says:

      and to think, most women thought she was a positive change for our country. they believed that she would truly empower women, more like take thier gifts from the great spirit away…… more like continue the united aryan movement and it is a rediculous notition that she is even holding an office as a legal aide attorney let aalone the actual office obama has seated her in. one that is that sickening should not be llowed as much power as she has been given.

      “When you take the justice out of the system,that leaves just us in the system.”

    119. American System Says:

      Ben Franklin directed Jefferson’s ‘authorship’ of the Constitution. Without Ben, there would have been no Constitution. Ben Franklin was not a slave owner.
      Jefferson spoke for Lord Shelburne and the British policy – America the Agrarian Paradise. Jefferson believed the United States should not industrialize, and remain a supplier of the British Empire. Ultimately, that would have meant bankruptcy and a culture like the Confederacy, no ‘paradise.’
      Jefferson – not a great president, hardly a great man in the realm of Alexander Hamilton or Henry Clay or even presidential advisors Henry and Mathew Carey. These are the “American System” men who made the USA.
      The Jefferson Memorial is a flaccid male organ – the Washington Memorial obelisk is a mighty male!

      Jachin & Boaz Reply:

      There are also Egyptian obelisks ( actual ones from Ancient Egypt ) in parts of Europe and in Washington D.C. Its interesting to me in that, DC has a strong Masonic embrace and the rights of ” King-making ” from Ancient Egypt run very very close to the words that are spoken and the events that are portrayed during Masonic ceremonies.

      ProphetPX Reply:

      Okay, but that only serves to say that without ALL of our Foundinf Fathers, we would not be here today. If we had only a scant few (half or less than that, less than all who were involved) then I doubt we would be the same country as we were when founded.

    120. Bill Says:

      That’s right. Get back in that kitchen and rattle some pots and pans. Radical feminists are obnoxious. Women in government, like Hillary Clinton, is partly what is wrong with this country.

    121. SD Says:

      what a disgusting human. is it me or is there a gag/dry heave/vomit factor when looking at or hearing her voice? when will these types take their millions and retire?

      birgit Reply:

      I am afraid she wont go away until she is president AGAIN….

      But related to the article next to Hitlary most sadistic people still look very tame……………………

    122. Typo Says:

      There is a typo in the article.

      Her name is Margaret Skanker.

    123. Martin Says:

      Lets not forget George H W Bush praising Sanger while in congress in the 1960s; congressman Bush was bashing the Pope in congress, for being against artificial contraception, and advocating global population control. see webster tarpleys chapter RUBBERS GGOES TO CONGRESS for all the gory details of evil bush sr. on this matter.

    124. gbush Says:

      First!Oh,damn.

    125. Kachusov Says:

      Не понимаю причину такого ажиотажа. Ничего нового и мнения разные.

    126. Anti-Hillary Says:

      Hillary Clinton Compares Margaret Sanger to Thomas Jefferson?

      A Bitch comparing a Witch to a Hero?

      Hillary is a political whore and Sanger was nothing more than a mass murderer!
      So, let’s name an award in her honor! An award for the biggest asshole in the World!

      Jefferson made America a country to be proud of!

      Stupid people need to helped off the planet ASAP!

    127. AIPAC Says:

      Thats why America will never change its path. As a whole, American REFUSE to look at its acts, reasons, historical facts on its behavior at home & abroad. Its the REFUSAL to come to grips on factual history because it is difficult. Its the REFUSAL to look in the mirror and admit terrible wrongs that have been committed.

      Before there can be ‘change’, there first must be awareness, recognition and then a continued devotion to correct behavior patterns. Most of the rest of the World has seen US behavior. Many have even unfortunately have had to deal with it. Well now, many Americans are having to deal with it; with what was so arrogantly dished out to other peoples in other countries.

    128. Jack Jones Says:

      Please don’t confuse Roman Catholicism with Christianity.

      How did Christianity contribute to Science? By ingraining the concept that there is an order to the universe from the orderly God who spoke it into existence.

      Margaret Sanger = Genocidal servant of satan.

      Hillary Clinton = Genocidal servant of satan.

      Abortion is modern child sacrifice to their lord and master…..satan.

      Why then does the Catholic system forbid birth control? To help flood the world with Catholics while those like Sanger and Clinton work feverishly to open abortion clinics in every CHRISTIAN country.

      Why did Bill Clinton suspend aerial patrols of the Mexican/USA border when he first took office?

      To flood America (a CHRISTIAN country) with Catholics (Mexicans).

      This is also why Bush Sr., Bush Jr., Bill Clinton, Condoleeza Rice and Tony Blair all went and bowed down to the dead body of Pope John Paul II. Google the photograph.

      Judge a tree by its fruit.

    129. Rocksteady Says:

      What up with all the profanity? Why do you people curse like teenagers? Don’t you want to make a good impression to people visiting the site?

      This is part of the reason I don’t associate with people from this site, or post more comments. I don’t mind if people know i read Infowars, and Prison Planet, and believe 911 was an inside job, but I can’t be associated with foul mouthed bickering cry babies.

      I believe like Alex does. We have to stand united. It’s like some people arent even listening. How many brain cells does it take to write,”lol, hillary is a bitch!”.

      You know who I’m talking to.

    130. Says Says:

      When Hilary is being tormented in hell, do we get to watch?

    131. Bman Says:

      Rocksteady is a little bitch….grow some testicals.

      The great thing about Infowars is that their blogs are completely UNCENSORED!!!! Unlike 99.9% of other news blogs I have the liberty to say my piece, and not only that…. I now have the liberty to say that Hillary clinton is an ELITIST PILE OF SCUM. I also can say much worse things that don’t get censored!!!

      LIKE MARGARET SANGER HAD f---ING MENTAL ILLNESS, SHE SHOULD HAVE LIVED BY HER MOTTO OF KILLING BABIES so that she counldn’t continue her lineage of mental illness….

      ITS GREAT I LOVE INFOWARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    132. NWO Personnel Depart Ment Says:

      I believe Margaret Sanger preached Eugenics to keep Blacks from multiplying. (Please check source), therefore, Hillary is agreeing.

      We are not against Democrats, or Republicans, nor is the battle White vs yellow vs black vs brown, rather the battle is between the PEOPLE and the SYSTEM which is stacked against us all.

    133. Jack Jones Says:

      Mexico City would be an ideal place to release an intentional bio-weapon.

      Dirty, filthy, over-populated…..It would be impossible to trace it back to the source.

      There would be lots of confusion.

      Will there also be mass immigration to the USA when the Mexicans are trying to escape the flu?

    134. Jack Jones Says:

      Also, in my experience, the “Wine and Cheese” Liberals like Hillary Clinton absolutely hate black people. They just have a very unique way of showing it.

      Do not be fooled. Hillary hates blacks.

      Remember the way she put on that fake accent back during the Primary Campaign and did her imitation of a black woman reciting poetry.

      It was enough to make a cat puke.

      And how about Bill moving his office to Harlem??? How is that working out? Another word for that is re-gentrification.

    135. Jack Jones Says:

      Does anyone here remember when Bill Clinton signed an executive order that ended the restriction on allowing HIV positive immigrants into the USA.

      He justified it by saying that they needed to come here because the USA has the best medical care.

      Down on the street, it meant that more Africans with HIV were assimilated into America. Imagine the damage that did to the black community in the USA.

      Bill and Hillary Clinton are as wicked as they come.

      I hope they repent and give their lives to Jesus. But I will not hold my breath for that one.

    136. they control us with the bible Says:

      im sorry to say this but.. the bible is the biggest bulls--- theory… anybody that believes in the bible you are weak … the bible is a way for the elites to control people….. if god was real, even though he is not, he would of showed himself by now. And the reason why the government is out to kill us is becouse they know there is no god… the devil doesnt even exist thats one of the other bulls--- theorys!!!!!!!! the aliens are our real creator…

    137. Gary Price Says:

      Obama is being compared to Jesus Christ..

      http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PA.....geId=96138