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Hillary, Cronkite call for world government
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Henry Lamb
Enter Stage Right
December 13, 1999
There was not a blip on the main-stream news media radar when Hillary Clinton introduced Walter Cronkite to the World Federalist Association (WFA) on October 19. Not until the Washington Times reprinted the Cronkite speech Friday, December 3, did Americans discover that both Hillary and Walter are avid advocates of world government.
Cronkite says “democracy, civilization itself, is at stake,” unless the “basic structure of our global community” is changed in the next few years. Cronkite’s appeal for world government came only five days before the release of the Charter for Global Democracy which embodies the version of world government preferred by the United Nations Association (UNA).
Both the UNA and the WFA have been promoting world government for years. Cronkite’s group, the WFA, prefers a “federalist” system which would create a weighted system of voting in the U.N. General Assembly to create a legislative body roughly akin to the American Congress. The UNA prefers a “consensus” process that takes into account recommendations offered by civil society (non-government organizations accredited by the U.N.).
Both organizations want to elevate the U.N. to world government status and empower the U.N. to enforce all international law. In fact, in 1986, the WFA filed suit against the United States over U.S. foreign policy, arguing that Article VI of the U.S. Constitution made the U.N. Charter as well as other U.N. treaties, the “supreme law of the land.” The courts ruled against the WFA in 1989.
Hillary’s presence at the WFA meeting, and her introduction of Cronkite, directly aligns her with the world government movement, and particularly with the WFA’s world government aspirations.
Cronkite called for the “revision” and limitation of the veto power of permanent members of the U.N. Security Council. The Commission on Global Governance and the Charter for Global Democracy, call for the elimination of both the veto and permanent member status on the Security Council. This latter recommendation will be presented as the needed “reform” to the Millennium Assembly next September. Cronkite’s more timid approach, as well as his “federalism” ideas have been overwhelmed by the U.N.’s “consensus” process now on a fast track toward adoption.
Cronkite called for the immediate ratification of a laundry list of U.N. treaties, including the infamous Convention on the Rights of the Child; the Convention on the Elimination of all forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW); and “most important,” Cronkite says, the International Criminal Court, which empowers the U.N. to prosecute American citizens whether or not it is ratified by the Senate.
Hillary made her support for these positions clear when she attended the U.N. Beijing Conference on Women in 1995.
Cronkite said in order to achieve world government, “Americans will have to yield up some of our sovereignty.” He said “the notion of unlimited national sovereignty means international anarchy.”
Under the world government scheme embodied in the Charter for Global Democracy, any individual nation could wield only the power assigned to it by the U.N. National armies would be disarmed to the level of a national police force. The U.N. would maintain a “directly recruited” standing army under the direct authority of the U.N. Secretary-General. Private citizens would be disarmed, and the U.N. would control the manufacture, sale, licensing and distribution of all fire arms.
To finance this expanded world government, the U.N. would be given the authority to impose taxes on the exchange of currency, on the use of resources, including the air, outer space, and the seas. Taxing authority is seen not only as the source of unlimited revenue, but also as a way to force a reduction of natural resources, especially fossil fuels, water, trees, and minerals.
Like the Clinton administration, and other world government advocates, Cronkite demeans opponents. He says that like America’s rejection of the League of Nations, current opposition to world government is “led by a handful of willful Senators who choose to pursue their narrow, selfish political objectives at the cost of our nation’s conscience.”
He goes even further to single out the “Christian Coalition and the rest of the religious right wing” as the culprits who have kept the world in a state of sovereign anarchy and prevented the emergence of a “civilized force of law” administered by the United Nations.
The fact that people of the stature of Hillary Clinton and Walter Cronkite are now willing to publicly advocate world government is an indication of their confidence that the world is now ready to accept their plan. World government is no longer the exclusive domain of the “black helicopter crowd.” Finally, the sinister plans to rule the world are being exposed by those who expect to rule.
The time line is, indeed, short. After decades of silent and denied preparation, the United Nations has made public the millennium year agenda which is crowned by the largest gathering of heads of state in the history of the world next September.
World government, called “global governance” by the U.N., will not occur on a day certain. It is a process that has been underway for years. The Millennium Assembly and Summit next September, with the adoption of the Charter for Global Democracy, is seen to be the point from which there is no turning back.
The only way to stop world government at this late date, is for the American people to send a government to Washington in the next election that can muster the courage to just say no.
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February 18th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
hillary bitch clinton took an oath as a member of congress, to protect and serve the constitution
her call for world government, is treason.
you are a traitor piece of scum hillary
February 18th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
As much as everybody loves Uncle Walt you have to remember he was at a bilderberg meeting years ago so it’s not surprising he comes out for world government. Now Hitlery is the annointed one the globalist criminals want as our leader, F*** that! She is a criminal CIA operative and has been for years and she had to kill Vince Foster to get in among the elite criminal cabal. She is corrupt as they have ever come yet people still think as female criminal is better than a male, WRONG! and this is just the start of her proving she can be as ruthless as any man. KISS MY ASS HITLERY!
By the way your word press is frigging annoying telling me I’m posting too fast. I’m not spamming or anything and I have to be the slowest typist on the planet so how is that too fast? Can I go now word press?
February 18th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
yeah fuck you Hilary you cunt
February 18th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Ive seen this a couple of times… good to put spotlight on it but I doubt it will get her out of the race.
The harsh reality of this is No matter what any of us do we are not gonna get our government back
until we surround the white house/pentagon and demand the resignation of this fraudulent Hijacked
government by force if needed. The only way to get the numbers to do this at some point in the
future is spread the infowar, the mercury in the vaccines, the corrupt media , 911 being a inside job … etc etc …
February 18th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
These described global actions are clearly actions of “Domestic Enemies. Domestic enemies of America need to be removed from public life and not elected into any office of responsibility. They should further be arrested and imprisoned for their traitorous actions. Anyone including media that supports such groups should lose their license to broadcast and after a prison stay they should be branded socially like we do child molesters. They should not be allowed to run for office or work in any capacity dealing with government. They need to be monitored 24/7 in all their private and social contact activities and they should be the registered in any community they plan to reside in. Let’s get serious with these Domestic Enemy jerks. It is time to bring these traitors to real justice. Confiscate their property and money and then fine them heavily for being Domestic Enemies. Until we do they will continue to think that they are impervious to any justice and they will continue to think that they are untouchable. It is time to take back our nation and dealing with Domestic Enemies is a start in the right direction.
February 18th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
“To finance this expanded world government, the U.N. would be given the authority to impose taxes on the exchange of currency, on the use of resources, including the air…”(sic!)
Since breathing is going to become a taxable activity and not a fundamental human body function then it’s time to move from this planet. Those people are seriously fucked up!!!
February 18th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Matt:
I think an air tax would be good so that you loony-bins will suffocate. You’re low-income wouldn’t be able to support your constant paranoid hyperventilation over your self-created fantasy worlds.
LOL
February 18th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Hillary, Obama or McCain what differance is one from another ? America is in the middle of electing some of the same things all over again, only worse, on the way to the NAU, followed by a World Government, whether they will like it to or not. It’s all being played out in the hands of the Elites who are getting closer everyday with little or no opposition. They are laughing, big time.
February 18th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
You Satanic pieces of lying shit. FUCK YOU!!!!
February 18th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Shillary, Cronkite, and their UN scam can burn in hell!! Devil worshipping murdering scumbags.
February 18th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Alex, your readers/listeners need brain-to-mouth (finger) filters! Don’t you have moderation to keep comments like:
“yeah fuck you Hilary you cunt” (misspelled Hillary)
“KISS MY ASS HITLERY” (how is this constructive in any way?)
I like the new layout and functionality of the site, but you might want to consider requiring a login to post. Introducing some accountability into your website might make people be more conscious of how they express themselves.
Your readers who post these abusive and offensive comments really bring down the quality of your new site. I hate to say it, especially after all the work you’ve obviously put into it, your new site sucks, and it’s because of the childish comments of your users.
February 18th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
I agree Stutter……… They’re just a bunch of little kids running their mouths, you can tell by what they say and how they act on here, They don’t understand how serious all this is, that THEIR world is coming to an end right in front of their eyes. BUT, it will all come to a head soon, no sense in getting irate over any of it, I just say we fight when the time comes, when they come marching up in our houses, arresting us and saying we’re ENEMY COMBATANTS. The American People……Enemy Combatants….lol……….Wow………..and i’m sure ALL of us has somebody thats died in a war, or served and so on……………….and we get treated like this? I wonder what them ole boys would have done if they knew that Bush and Cheney and Clinton and all the others in the CFR adn BILDERBURG and SKULL AND BONES and so forth………..would do? Them brave guys would have marched to Washington and demanded Arrests for these Devil Worshipping AssHats…………OH WELL………..Now i’m gettin PISSED…lol
We need ADMIN on here………..to boot the little kids……..or like you said Stutter……Filter it and make everybody sign in……Then we know we’re dealing with Adults, instead of some nasty mouthed underaged retard. ………….Thanks Todd Smith
February 18th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Just ignore them. I’d rather hear someone say “fuck Hillary” instead of “you tin foil hats should vote Hillary to help the country.” At least the “fuck Hillary” folks have their heart in the right place. It’s the trolls that call us “kooks” who try to instigate pissing contests that aggravate me.
Back to the topic. Hillary is a communist. The WFA is a shady group of NWO handlers who will stop at nothing at destroying our sovereinty. The sad part is some so called “Americans” buy into the “global community” garbage, thinking that we will have peace as a result. These people love to blame nationalism for all the world’s ills.
February 18th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Exactly right, Patrick. I keep telling everyone the same thing but they won’t listen. Don’t grab the bait like a sucker, and don’t bother trying to talk sense into the haters and trolls. Your beating a dead horse, braindead that is! Unless they bring up a valid arguement, which they never do, completely ignore them and they will find something else to do. If it works on my dog it will work on these domesticated primates.
February 18th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Your right Phantom, I just bit the bait in another thread, some guy named jed. Pointless pissing contest. I’m giving him exactly what he wants. Time to take my own advice and bid him goodnight.
February 18th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
During all these years of listening to Alex, I never really look back in retrospect and thought of any real reason to believe we should actually reject global government (aside from the apparent fact that it’s main proponents have been totally discredited or demonized), all I heard is how people will be automatically enslaved once this is done, no signs of how or who is going to do it or the reasons or methods, there’s a deep void between world government and humanity’s enslavement, that not even Alex wants to talk about and I think that it’s probably because all of these allegations are not really based on facts but in lies, exaggerations and distortion of the facts. I hear Alex today that I have his permission to write comments here that disagree, so beat it, I have made this section my official source of world government news, except that I will flip them upside down and go actually to the original sources instead of just scratching the surface and chew only the ultra-right wing propaganda.
February 18th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
No censorship, woot! Maybe boys can eventually learn how to cope with freedom. As far as Stevie goes, I smell a fella who never suffered from lack of $$$$$. Funny how that type can be so ignorant ;-0 it works well for them.
February 18th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
Dearest Stevie,
You need only look at history to see what´s in store for us. Many, many tyrants have tried world domination. Try reading a little history. If that´s too tough for you, try the production end of a Tazer, Waterboard, or maybe get a room in the upper floors of the Twin Towers and time the melting point of steel. Get an education.
February 18th, 2008 at 7:40 pm
She is a real peach! Have you seen the Peter Paul Video? Fuc#@n Bitch!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPxtv6kcn7s
February 18th, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Thomas Jefferson said it best…. “Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.” That’s as simple an anti-NWO, anti-globalist message as you can get.
February 18th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
Why don’t Alex just come out and tell everyone the the fourth Reich is in power right now in this country. Nostradamus said they would return. They would change their colors and insignia but would return. “An the world will wonder when the see the beast that was and is not and yet is” BFS
February 18th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Dearest Infinitum,
You judge too quick.
There’s a big difference between conquering the world by means force, like what Napoleon, King Henry, Caesar and Hitler wanted, than a general agreement of nations to eliminate all borders and form a global entity and making that next step following their inhabitants interests, the two things are totally different, my dear, and just because too many tyrants have actually pursued that dream it doesn’t means that it’s something that you have to be automatically against it, a world government or a single world entity is the future of mankind whether you like the idea or not. It’s natural evolution of society just like the time when the church ceased from being the top level authority.
February 18th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
JUDGMENT UPON THE WORLDS TRADING SYSTEMS…
Prophetic word received November 1999.
For I tell you, indeed, I declare to you the things that have yet to take place upon the Earth, before the time of the great tribulation.
For the Depression of 1929 shall be as nothing in comparison to the losses and devestation that will strike the stock markets of the world stage in the years ahead. For I tell you that as each man to himself has trusted in and has placed his trust in idols of gold and of silver,so shall the judgements start to rain down.
So it shall be in a twinkling of an eye that the stock markets and the trading systems of the great nations shall, even in a matter of forty-eight-hour period, collapse. That every man who for himself has laid up great treasure shall in this season be reduced to nothing.
For that which man has placed his trust in will fail him. The trading systems of this world, which men have been told are infallible,shall prove themselves tenuous at the least and shall be the ruins of many millions in the year to come. And the ruin shall come greater upon those who have placed much faith in the arm of man. For I prophesy that the stock markets of the Western and Eastern world shall fall. And as they fall, so devestation shall strike the world’s economy. And so those who have trusted in the wealthof man to save them shall finally see their idols for what they are.They shall say:”We are brought down to nothing,as in a day; that which we were told could not be has happened in a day.”
And so a great terror shall strike at the heart of those who have ruled the nations by control and manipulation–by trade and by extortion–as they see their idols collapse before them.And so the great shaking and judgments upon the Earth shall begin.
For I have warned My people, says the Lord. I have warned them in the days of Noah, I warned them in the days of Sodom. I warned them at Babel but still, says the Lord, the Sovereign and One True God, still my people rebelled against Me. And their hearts strayed for from Me.And as I searched the cities of My great beloved Earth, surely it was only a remnant that I saw. A remnant that looked out for My interests and yearned for My appearing.
And so in these enddays,My heart burns within Me and becomes vexed. For through the centuries they killed My prophets. And even now My prophets are despised. And so this last generation ,they have made themselves idols out of their hands, and they have turned away from Me. They worship idols of wood and clay–their homes, automobiles–and they worship idols of gold and silver. They exchange worship of Me, the Living God, for that of stocks and shares of gold and bonds–for the worship of oil and armaments.
They have exchanged their souls for that which cannot save them. For so it is that astheir life expires,all they have amassed inthe high places of the Earth,all their idols shall stand silent.
For more Prophecies from Wendy Alec go to http://www.unknownprophet.com
This specific prophecy is from the book,”Journal of the unknown Prophet”.
During a ten day period in November in 1999. Wendy Alec recieved a visitaiton from the Lord Jesus Christ.
This is the extraordinary record of His discourse.
February 18th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
DOES THE WIND,WHEN IT HOWLS,PUT A CHILL IN YOUR SOUL-AS YOU LAY IN A DAZE WITH YOUR THOUGHTS UNCONTROLLED-AND THE TIME LOST BEHIND,LEAVES YOU LONELY IN THE COLD-CAN YOU HEAR ALL THE FEAR,THAT THE NIGHT WINDS HOLD-AND THE DARK LEAVES A MARK IN THE DEPTHS OF YOUR SOUL-AND THE BEAST IS RELEASED AS IT HAS BEEN FORTOLD-AND THE STORM HAS BEEN FORMED IN THE PLACE OF MAGEDDO-WILL YOU STAND LIKE A MAN WHEN THE NIGHT WINDS BLOW?
February 18th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Hi Z.O.G.,
LOL, thanks.
Putting all disagreement aside, I know deep down that most of you have good intentions, but that doesn’t means you’re correct in every sense, in one way I feel a lot of compassion for guys and lads like you because I can see myself in you a few years ago, then I finally opened my eyes, when my open wallet was empty, and fear have taken it all away, I hope you can realize that you’re being manipulated by this ultra right wing fear mongering propaganda before it’s too late for you too, and before it passed 6 years of your life believing all sorts of this radicalized black and white non-sense. Just read the sort of people that is being attracted to this Alex Jones guys, if you can’t see it then I can’t help you, you can judge the three by it’s fruits. The other day I hear one of his listeners openly calling for the assassination of all freemasons. this is pure ultra right wing stuff. you better watch out. I highly recommend to avoid this sedentary lifestyle and start to actually meet friends in real life, I’m actually starting to think that this is the reason why so many people specially the young have this tendency of believing everything they’re told, and it’s because they’re online friends have also the same tendencies, and irresponsible people are willing to take advantage of it. Don’t fall for this lad, while I do encourage you to always have a critical mind.
February 18th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Could you imagine this Douche Bag as the president of the USA? God help us! A Stanky Hole or some Insane Guy? Hillary Clinton or McInsane. Is this what the once great America has come too? Hell is coming! And its only going to get worse before it gets better. God blesses the good people of the world and give them strength. You are going to need it!
February 18th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Stevie -
you post a lot of fancy words, and yes, some of the people that listen to alex are ultra right wing…
but the entire concept of right wing and left wing is a matrix, a construct, it isn’t real..
even Jesus wasn’t conservative or liberal about everything…, he made whips to throw people out a temple, made wine for a party, and then drank the wine, but then, commanded people about purity and keeping their hearts and minds pure…
yes, some people are crazy and go off on a tangent, but …., you never actually disagreed with this article….
hillary is a communist, has worked for communists, and was hired by the CIA with her hubby in the 60’s to fulfill a specific role…., you can disagree, but offer an alternative, not just judge ‘right wingers’ …,
the CFR run almost all the presidential candidates, and their stated goal is to bring down the USA and it’s sovereignity, so, when that happens, and the world follows and world gov is established and they come to give you your microchip, this eternal skepticism or pseudo-intellectualism will mean nothing….
i agree, make friends, real friends, that will die for you and your family and you for them, get out of the matrix and lead a real life, and never ever be violent…., except in self-defence
as alduos huxley said , he believes his book ‘brave new world’, is more like than orwell’s 1984, because its simply more efficient, people will be conditioned to love their slavery, i think huxley was right, and where he was wrong, (i.e. the nanny state), the 1984 police-state will come and crush your skull
February 19th, 2008 at 6:32 am
As such I wouldn’t have a problem with a global government as such, which I find will come sooner or later, at least as soon as mankind will enhabit other places in space,
but rather WHOM will be in charge.
February 19th, 2008 at 7:16 am
When are all of us going to stand up, we have to get out in the streets and stop this .
February 19th, 2008 at 8:48 am
Steve,
LOL, do you actually have any evidence to claim that Hillary is a communist? or is this only a rethorical comment a “known fact” and what evidence do you have that the CFR is the source of all the presidents, or what evidence do you have that the goal of the CFR is to “bring down America” and “to take out it’s soveraignty” Do you have any real evidence of this or it’s just rethorical “common knowledge”?
don’t get me wrong, I find Hillary despicable, but where did Hillary actually calls for a global government, all she’s doing is praising someone else who is, have you even cared to see or read what the other guys who is actually calling for a world government actually is saying? Or are you one of the bunch one of the heard that actually takes Alex Jones words and conclussions for granted and blindly accepts them, there have been many tyrants over the course of history trying to take global domination by brute force and have failed misserably, but a general agreement of countries and voluntary steps for world government is possible, it doesn’t have to be a capitalistic one though, it could be anything, including a world christian teocracy for all I care, the point is, Alex have inflicted you the notion that any world government or global entity effort is automatically evil and you have to necessarely oppose ir regardless of the reasons or benefits it could actually bring about.
February 19th, 2008 at 10:04 am
Steve, Would you praise Hitler, Mao, Stalin because you did not believe in what they did or said? The first day Bill Clinton was in office they wore VI Lennon buttons. Did you not read Hillarys health care program? Did you not read the transcript of Hillarys speech where she says “we will take things away from you on behave of the common good”? 13 of the 16 founding members of the UN were commies or had ties to it, you would really trust a foundation based this way? Did you not read the UN charter where they say you have all these “rights” but at the end it basically says “oh by the way all of these can be taken away at any time”? Google it, it’s all out there! I know you don’t listen to Alex’s show or you would know that he does NOT want any of his listeners to take him at his word. He wants everyone to look it up for themselves. I’ve been doing this for 20 years, long before this internet deal where you really had to dig to get this information and from my research Alex has been right on. Stop getting you news from Dr. Phil and start doing some research. I suggest you start with the Bible!
February 19th, 2008 at 10:07 am
Sorry, I ment Stevie NOT Steve.
February 19th, 2008 at 11:54 am
You guys got to understand that world government will NOT come in a day! It will be gradual, like now. A slow, very slow indoctrination of the concept, then much chatter about it, then more chatter, then randome acts in that direction , then more of it then eventually people’s minds will begin to be ready to accept it and little by little society will grab it because it will seem to be the best of all scenarios but it will be the worse.
Like The devil with EVE. He did not put a gun to her hear and say “take this and eat it or else!!” No no it don’t work that way. If he did this he would have been defeated and she would not have disobeyed God.
He “suggested” that she do so and she did. Very cunning, patient and crafty it works every time.
So world Gov or any evil works the same way.
When my son at 4 years old saw his first killing on TV he was devastated and I had to explain it to him. But the 50,000th time he saw someone get wasted on tv it hardly raised his temperature at the age of around maybe 21. You see what I mean.
But world government is coming I believe this whole heartedly just a matter when and how not so much who and we won’t like it. It will be devastating.
February 19th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
dude, where the hell have you been since 911
let me guess, you just woke up?
i’ve been watching this since 92, we are in overdrive now.
February 19th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Yeah, The MAN,
These rookies can really get your dander up cant they ?
Hey STEVIE,,,,Seniorita Hillery, NO BUENO !!!
SEE ????
February 19th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
hey freak, mother i was talking about you
add stupid to that as well
February 19th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
i am a fag
February 19th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
NONpaul sounds like a sissy
February 19th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
“its the end of the world as we know it, and i feel fine”
buy firearms and stockpile your amo…
February 19th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
They are taking our money, food, guns, country, and the free will to think. Not enough of us have the balls to get together and fight this crap. Don’t follow, lead. So I guess every man for himself.
February 19th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
They have us because we are so divided which is probably why they want diversity, ethnic or otherwise.
I recently read in a NWO thread that one dude suggested to another, (I recall in the Roman empire) that the slaves should be made to wear wristbands to identify them. The listener said
“No. If we do, they will realise how many of them there are.”
We are the majority. The whole system is akin to the Wizzard of Oz, with his smoke and levers. Sadly most are slow to listen. There will be a war and it will last seven years (Daniel’s 70th Week) but these diabolical maggots, manipulators of the creation, will not fully succeed except to generate Armaggedon where upon a wonderful millenium will begin their having been defeated.
What we face is akin to the movie the Time Machine whereby the inventor has to move forward, which is how we need to see this, only in this instance, a criminal fraternity has gained control of the US government and is spreading its cancer world wide.
It will be awful, worse than anything so far experienced by history but it will not succeed.
As for the posting promoting the false prophetess Wendy Alec (2 Peter 2.1-3) I draw you to her alleged gift of tongues, seen and heard first hand:
“Hi ya, haha, hi ya, haha, hi ya, haha, hi ya, haha, hi ya, haha…” said Wendy Alec.
Yeah Right! Another manipulating sow!
February 19th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Hi Number 6,
Hillary praised the guy, that’s what the header of this article should be: “Hillary praises Cronkite….” not “Hillary and Cronkite calls for …..” this is what I call distortion of the facts, and Hillary praises too many people anyway so that you could make your own conclusions about her, and I’m not even defending the bitch but an “Infowarrior” should be honest on the facts and judgment. Also, your demonization of Hillary by equating her with Stalin, Hitler and Mao it’s ridiculous and extreme, how can anyone take you seriously, Hillary so far haven’t done any more wrong to this country that any other average senator so that she deserve that much crap and hate from you, her only sin has been to wish a universal healthcare system for the benefit of millions of un-insured citizens that don’t have the means of take care of their medical expenses because of the medical cartel skyrocketing prices, and have actually failed miserably, so if you hate her for that then shame on you. If you’re going to hate her, be it for the right reasons… having praised someone that is openly calling for a world government is not a good reason.
February 19th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Hey Stevie, There is no question that the heathcare system is in shambles but her solution just won’t work ask anyone in Canada or Russia where she has taken her ideas from. Besides that if you read it you would see it is nothing more than a way to control people, you can’t even reject a “mandated” shot or you’re off to jail. I’m on the National Vaccine Centers email list and there is many many problems with them. If you think my demonization of Hillary by equating her with Stalin, Hitler and Mao it’s ridiculous and extreme just wait until she gets into office. While I do not believe she will ring up a multi-million body count she will lead us down the New World Order path. I’m sorry you can’t see what the NWO has in store for us. Please go read the UN “human rights” on their website for your sake and the sake of your children. As far as being taken seriously I don’t care if people do or not. What needs to be taken seriously are the facts and if you do your research you will see the the patriots are right. Please do your homework then come stand by our side.
February 19th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
“The Clinton Chronicles” at You Tube are very enlightening. If you thought that the Clintons were anything less that unadulterated “gutter trash” before you watched it, you certainly won’t be entertaining any of those illusions afterward.
February 19th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Wow. Hasn’t anyone realized why different forms of government work while some fail? We are still basically predatory animals that run mostly on instinct. We are not evolved enough to handle centralized power. If we were benevolent creatures dictatorships would work for everyone, communisms would be utopias, but we aren’t, we are corruptable and greedy, and the more power we put in the hands of few the worse it gets for the rest. We must face the facts that we are selfish beings and we must protect ourselves by spreading out the power. I would rather have wars and suffering between countries than everyone’s neck under the same boot. At least as seperate entities we can keep each other in check. If some poeple are untouchable in one circle, there are other circles to hold them accountable. The whole problem with our current situation is that there are individuals that are accountable to NO ONE and they will do as they please. At best, and system that supports this is doomed to fail, at worste it will succeed.
If the governments of the world want to get together and make things better they could start with forgiving each other’s debts and abolishing fiat money / usury. I can’t imagine the horrible things we are going to do once we have a unified army and some poor country can’t make good on a loan…
February 19th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
The right hand says “its” needs no apostrophe; the word is possessive in itself.
The left hand says if you believe in God and the Devil, all this is quite simple.
February 19th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
I posted this on my tube a while ago.. and I think they screwed with my views
February 19th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
I watched this doc. some time ago and have for some time now considered that the contemptuous elite are basically cannibalizing their own flesh. A type of self sacrifice for the diabolical agenda of one world government. These people are not honorable in the slightest and will turn on their own in order to further their agendas. The nature of evil is to eventually destroy every part of its own self in order to complete its maleficence. That is why this world government cannot and will not succeed in anything other than complete world apocalypse. But then again that is what i believe this all to be ultimately. Before things on earth can ever truly take a turn for the better it has to get a lot worse. There will be a new world order that will succeed in the end, though not the world order that mankind will construct. And all these elitists who think that their lies and murderous deeds will secure for them some lasting position of power is the ultimate delusion of grandeur. Conspiring murders will conspire against and murder each other if there is no one else beside themselves to murder. It is their diabolical nature. These are not true human beings, these are spiritless monsters. They are “Wandering stars for whom it is reserved the blackness of darkness forever”. These are they who were “preordained to this condemnation”. Read the book of Jude in the new testament, it speaks about these “man-faced” undead (twice dead). “When they begin to say peace and security know that sudden destruction comes”. Look up, your redemption draws near.
February 19th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
oops i meant to post this on another topic only…. O well i guess it fits both bills.
February 20th, 2008 at 7:54 am
Hi Number 6,
I was actually by your side for many years until now, I found that many of my beliefs were based only on fear, assumptions and illusions of “knowing”. You said that I should wait until Hillary is in office to realize how evil she is, well let me tell you that in fact the only candidate with that potential is actualy Ron Paul, if he was elected and boy I’m glad he’s not, he would round up and put in jail or concentration camps all Mexican illegal aliens, effectively making him a new kind of Hitler, I’m sure you will be dying of joy just as the German people were when Hitler was doing the same to the Jews, I realize that Alex would love this too. Ron Paul declared the war against hispanics when he insisted on protecting our borders (to the south, of couse, because Canadians are White beautiful people), effectively declaring the war against the hispanic working class in this country. The NWO is faceless enemy that Alex uses as a wild card to sell and inflict irrational fear. I’m not saying there isn’t evil and wrongdoing in this world that deserve some attention I’m just saying that he goes many times to great lenghts and into the realms of the absurdity and exaggeration.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:45 am
Stevie-
The world would be much better off without people like you in in. The last thing we need is ignorant assholes such ass yourself. I am sick and tired of you closed minded people. Maybe you can start a revolution of you own if you don’t agree with the good Ron Paul and Alex Jones. So please do us a favor and quickly blow your brains out and maybe the other assholes will quicly follow.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:02 am
Stevie, White people are beautiful people. Yet the anglo saxon nation, and its other tribal cultures that have evolved and devoloped into the various European nations, do not wish to be divided against our other human brothers and sisters. Different we may be but blessed be to those differences, we all belong to the same human race however with respect of everyones cultural identity I think we could end this Divide and Conquer tactic that the propagandist have used against us. Having a flood of immigrants from any country wouldn’t be good for the common wealth of this nation if only for the reason that it would be used against everyone else, to drive up wages and yes perhaps to have a pretense for concentration camps in the u.s.. I sense a lot of aggresion and perhaps hatred Stevie. It’s understandable given the situation, but be at peace!
February 20th, 2008 at 10:05 am
Good day Stevie,
I urge you once again to do some research for if you have you would not have “illusions of knowing” you would have true knowledge of what is going on. For it is ALL in their (governments, UN, NWO, Trilats, Bilderberg, CFR) documents for what they have planned for us. I truly do wish Alex was talking out of his porthole and inflicting irrational fear but he’s not for what is to come for the USA is ungodly to say the least. As I stated before I’ve been researching this for a long time, not just listening in to a show and repeating what I heard, I found it for myself. As far a Ron Paul is concerned I’ve been on his email list for 7 years now and I have not seen anything to make me believe that he would put the Mexicans in a concentration camp. He is the only person who can set this country back to what the founding fathers intended. Yes there should be a war on the ILLEGALS. There is a whole lot more coming across our southern boarder than just lawn keepers, that’s why we are concentrating down there. If the Canadians were coming across by the millions and taking our jobs, social security, committing crimes such as drug dealing, murder and gangs, MS13 the worlds most dangerous gang (that’s what the History Channel called them) is ALL Mexican/latino. Do you want to live in their neighborhood? Don’t hear alot about those Canadian gangs do you? Yes some of them do belong in jail or deported but to think they will be put in concentration camps. You do not understand who the 100+ FEMA concentration camps are for, their for you and me, again FEMA documents, look them up I don’t have the time to hold your hand and help you to see what’s happening. Don’t fool yourself for a minute to think that you will have your American rights under UN control. You’re going to get a taste of it soon under the North American Union, again their own documents. You have two choices to live free or die. Choose wisely.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:37 am
NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY WILL PREVAIL!! DEATH TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER!! KEEP FAITH IN AND EDUCATE YOUR FELLOW COUNTRYMEN AND WE WILL ANNIHILATE THE NEW WORLD ORDER!! NEVER GIVE UP AND KEEP FIGHTING THE INTERNATIONALIST SCUM-SUCKERS!! THEY WILL NEVER GET WORLD GOVERNMENT UNLESS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SUBMIT!! NEVER SUBMIT TO THESE PARASITES AND SHOW THEM THAT THE IRRESISTABLE WILL OF FREE HUMAN BEINGS IS AN OVERWHELMING JUGGERNAUT THAT WILL OBLITERATE ALL ENEMIES AND RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION AND EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER THE LAW!! LET JUSTICE BE DONE OR THY HEAVENS FALL!! JUST REMEMBER TO PREPARE, PREPARE, AND PREPARE SOME MORE FOR THE COMING STORM!!
February 20th, 2008 at 10:46 am
DEATH TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER
February 20th, 2008 at 10:48 am
THE LIBERTY ROPE
http://social.infowars.com/blo.....ry_id=2836
February 20th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Hi again Number 6,
What is true knowledge to you?
For example, you can say that the government is criminal because of the Operation Northwood Documents and that the government is capable of inflicting 911 to it’s own citizens. You and I have done the same research my dear but there’s a huge difference between you and me, you and I are getting into a different conclusions, OK? for you, the Northwood documents it’s the solid proof that the government is not only capable of that in the sixties but that also is responsible for 911, for me, the Northwood documents is simply an obscure plan that was rejected and never actually happen, that the CIA may engage in similar black ops is very possible, but for me there’s a big difference between a regular black ops which may be political motivated than a huge terrorist attack on our own people, it’s the same research but different conclusions. Why do you have to keep accusing me of lack of research if you don’t really know me?
What other documents can you cite? the CFR “Rebuilding our National Defenses”? Just because they mention that we would need another pearl harbor in order to strengthen our defenses, my grandpa could have come with that idea too, does this means that my grandpa would be guilty of 911? what evidence do you have that the CFR is involved in 911? you must admit it, yours are only suspicions fueled by fear and full of emotions from the tragedy. Is this true knowledge to you?… it’s ridiculous!!! Just make an assessment again of what you consider solid truth. It is irrational.
Alex Jones is constantly calling for mass crack-down, round-up and arrests to millions of illegal aliens and their children, for denying these children health care or even education, of school lunches, this is more criminal to me than just crossing the border for hopes of a better living, Alex even says that overpopulation is not a problem, that the whole world can fit in Texas with green areas and every amenity so why is he contradicting himself by rejecting the Mexican illegals? there will always be crime among the Hispanics specially the poor ones but this doesn’t mean that we should round them all and put in Fema camps as Jones would like happen, I don’t stand behind that cruelty, if you do then shame on you. The source of Hispanic crime and immigration is margination and poverty, deportation is not the solution.
Ron Paul, the so-called “champion of the constitution” is the only candidate that actually WANTS to change it, just to mention one of the examples, he wants to change the 14th amendment and possibly even retroactively deny the citizenship to millions of children born of illegal aliens. When Ron Paul was asked during the Fox debate if he would also put a fence on the north side with Canada, he was shaking with an erratic voice, he knew where the question was coming from, you think that the terrorist come from the south border, well if I were a terrorist I would come from plane directly to the main land or if there is too much protection from the south border I would come from the north one, don’t be a fool, a terrorist would come in from wherever is easier, the fact that you guys want a ridiculous fence it’s only racially motivated, this ultra rigth wing motivations have their sources directly from the supremacy groups. There are many radical groups in this country for an entire list of them with zip codes and everything I suggest you to visit the ADL website.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
http://www.worldslastchance.com
February 20th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
i call for hillary, Obama and mccain to SHUT UP IMMEDIATELY<(english accent). Your followers are idiot morons who dont think, your ideas are stupid as hell and promote marxist evil, and no im not saying this because your a woman, your a victim of your own biases towards others, as you project them back at your self. And dont call me a ninny, your the one in the spotlight lady garrrr actually see i like having pretend conversations, it acts out exactly what I think of someone. Gives me a chance to vent, sarcasticly..that and I really hate lying thieves who brainwash stupid girls and guys to follow the most moronic set of ideas in the history of everything that ever was or will be.
February 20th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Stevie, The only reason I have been pushing you with the research is I have a hard time believing that anyone who has seen the same documents that I have could come up with the conclusion that these people don’t mean business. They don’t come up with these ideas for shits and grins. 9/11 was done almost to the letter from the Northwood document, suspicious wouldn’t you think. As soon as I saw the towers fall I said they were pulled, way to clean. I’ve had the honor of being able to talk to some of the firemen from 9/11 (we were on the same cruse together) they confirmed the bombs that were there. If you say that they were wrong or lied what did they have to gain from a lie? I never said that the CFR is involved I was pointing out the depth of the people and groups involved in the entire plan to bring down the USA. For an example that slightly off the track Department of State Publication 7277 from 1961 states how America is to be disarmed. What have we seen from then many many laws against the 2nd, they made it they implement it. what happens when the 2nd is gone? Their all gone, then they can do what they want to us when they want. Why do I bring that up? Everything is interlinked. If we can’t fight back their will be done.
What gives Mexico the right to our jobs, social security, health care etc? I can’t understand how people think that it’s the right thing to do. Why don’t they put their efforts into bettering their own country? If you say that their country is too corrupt what’s going to happen when 50 million more are up here? They will have all of their people in office and they will be right back where they started. The only thing that will be accomplished is our destruction. At the Austin “immigrants rights” rally there were 30% of the people wearing shirts referring to the Plan of San Diego:
PLAN OF SAN DIEGO. With the outbreak of revolution in northern Mexico in 1910, federal authorities and officials of the state of Texas feared that the violence and disorder might spill over into the Rio Grande valley. The Mexican and Mexican-American populations residing in the Valley far outnumbered the Anglo population. Many Valley residents either had relatives living in areas of Mexico affected by revolutionary activity or aided the various revolutionary factions in Mexico. The revolution caused an influx of political refugees and illegal immigrants into the border region, politicizing the Valley population and disturbing the traditional politics of the region. Some radical elements saw the Mexican Revolution as an opportunity to bring about drastic political and economic changes in South Texas. The most extreme example of this was a movement supporting the “Plan of San Diego,” a revolutionary manifesto supposedly written and signed at the South Texas town of San Diego on January 6, 1915. The plan, actually drafted in a jail in Monterrey, Nuevo León, provided for the formation of a “Liberating Army of Races and Peoples,” to be made up of Mexican Americans, African Americans, and Japanese, to “free” the states of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, and Colorado from United States control. The liberated states would be organized into an independent republic, which might later seek annexation to Mexico. There would be a no-quarter race war, with summary execution of all white males over the age of sixteen. Yea I want to give these people free reign. Russia stated that they would penetrate from the soft under belly of the USA aka southern boarder, a much easier place to do that. Not saying that there aren’t other places to enter. Don’t think old Russia is dead. Russia said they would play dead and then when our guard was down the would smash us with a clenched fist. Many Russians believe that the only way to defeat America is through the UN, as I said many many groups involved in trying to bring us down. I hope you re-awake before it’s too late.
February 20th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Prepare for RED DAWN.
February 20th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Maybe the N.W.O. is God punishing the people of the world for their wickedness.
God says; …..for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: …… Zephaniah 3:8
February 20th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
God, Preacher man,
Get it threw your head…The ORIGINAL, Father of “humans” didnt say any of that shit in the bible nor did HE orchrastrate all of the atrositys mentioned in it eather………The god that said all that missleading crapola was a bunch of tripped out guys whos camels ran off and left them in the desert with nothing else to do but eat mana (mushrooms), and listen to lucifer narrate the plan for global inslavement….
The BIG deception has been going on FOREVER…
The guys in the desert were Elohim ( canaanite, diety(s?) …who were a bunch of rebellious “ancient ones” who were masqueradeing as God…and have been keeping the spoof going …EVEN YET , apparently.
Remember in the book of gen. 1:26, “let US make man after OUR likeness”
Calm down….nobody is going to hell….unless they WANT to go there.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Mother- Get it through your head that you are a blasphemer. REPENT!
February 20th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Mother, you have a vivid imagination. However, you do have a valid point concerning Genesis 1:26. In fact, there are many places in the Bible where “God” is referred to in terms alluding to a possible mono, and yet multifaceted personage.
His voice is as the voice of many waters.
Jesus said he was the “Son of man”- what does that really mean?
He has many names, Yahweh, Jehova, Jesus, Emmanuel, messiah, Alpha/Omega, Adonai, Yeshua, savior, Father, and yet is one?
Jesus said “I and the father are one.”
Matthew 25:40 “Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.”
“Let us make man in OUR image…..”
I don’t know the full of the mystery of “God”. But I do know alot of scriptures also describe God as separate, sitting on his throne, and the angels and people worshipping him. And Jesus says that no man is perfect, or your father, but one, he in heaven. And so, I think what the scripture means, regarding these mystery’s, is that God literally “walks in the shoes” of all living.
He is all powerful, all knowing, and thus- entirely and completely empathetic, and shares in everything we experience, fully, as much as we do.
His “consciousness”, is vast, and far beyond what we can concieve. But he is one- yet vast. We enter heaven as little children. So it seems, we are made in love, to fellowship, and to grow as his children- the ever expanding extension of his creation.
I believe God has always existed, and always will exist. He is the constant denominator. And all things created flow from his omniscient omnipotence.
February 21st, 2008 at 8:45 am
Hi again Number 6,
There is a wide river between suspicions and conclusions and you seem to like jumping it instead of building the bridge, the twins towers had good reasons and perfectly good explanations to why they fell, huge Boeing aircraft impacted them, weaken their structure and added weight, that alone is a perfectly fine explanation, the day that one of the conspirators comes forward detailing all the events behind the supposed conspiracy that is the day I may start believing again, but while this doesn’t happen, I can’t put the blame on anyone and start hating them for it. It is fine with me if you have suspicions and that this could lead you for fact gatherings, but when you guys start putting blame on a lot of people that’s when you start becoming irrational and lose all credibility, specially with little or no evidence. That is what people called witch hunting, and if we were in the seventeen hundreds, bush et al would have been already lynched, just because his incompetence seems suspicious to you.
The CFR is a think thank, their jobs is to create plans for the future of American relations with other countries, some of their members may become or may be government officials some other don’t and their studies doesn’t means that the US government is going to follow them, they can create a hundred different plans and describe the details and predict the outcome for what they think will be in the best interest of the Nation but the US government doesn’t need to follow it, and even if the US government executes their own decisions that happen to be close to one of the CFR plans, it doesn’t means that the CFR had any influence whatsoever either.
I’m not necessarily against gun control, I’ve never owned a gun and never had been in a position where I may need it and I’m sure that many of the people that own guns have really never had shot one single bullet not even for practice purposes. The only time I may have like to use is when I got in a fight with one of my neighbors and I’m glad I didn’t had one because I would be writing this from jail. We’re not in the wild wild west anymore and there are many countries where there is a lot of restriction of guns and they aren’t slaves as far as the definition of slave in the dictionary is. Owning a gun doesn’t make any difference neither on the personal or the collective level when the same government that you’re being afraid of have much bigger weapons and has the power to kill thousands by the push of a button (if it was really evil) guns are more useless than diamonds or gold in this new civilized society, the 2th was Ok I guess in the eighteen hundreds, but then ask a Black and they may think differently as they were not even considered persons and the other end of the rifles were being pointed at them. What are you going to do with a gun if a bunch of cops come into your house to arrest you? or what are you going to do with a gun in a middle of a protest or coup d’etat? assuming that the government is truly evil, which is not, people owning guns doesn’t change a thing, when they have all the training, the resources and the power to control entire countries and bring them to their knees if they truly wanted to. The only thing you’re doing is putting money into the arm makers pocket and you’re going to die and the gravestone is going to read, here lies Number 6 with his loved guns, he never fired one single bullet. Guns are meant to kill, and if you’re a true Christian like many in this movement claim to be, then you should follow the commandments, thou should not kill, the funny thing is that me being an Atheist are more willing to follow that precept of thou should not kill better than most of you, funny eh?
When you talk about Mexico’s right (the country) of having our jobs, SS and health care, I can’t do anything else but laugh, you talk about Mexico as if it was a beggar that is being handed a coin every single day from the same rich person and that it somehow has develop the notion that the rich man has the obligation to him to hand out coins forever. You talk about jobs, SS and health care as it was mana from the gods, something that you have the god given right to. My friend, in this world, everyone has the right for all of that, Jobs are not gifts that you should be thankful without having to sweat and exercise and pay your taxes for it first, and you’re technically wrong to say that Mexico is entitled to our SS, that’s a blasphemy, first because Mexico is a country and secondly because not even illegal aliens working here are entitled to any of the SS benefits and they don’t even have the opportunity to claim back the taxes that the federal government is taking in excess, with all this huge rip off at least they should be entitled for an emergency humanitarian healthcare such as them having babies here, minimum!, they’re not asking anything from us freely, they work, they consume and they also pay taxes here, and it is ridiculous to fear that 50 million of them would come here.
As far as the plan of san Diego goes, I don’t totally discard the idea that it is also fake just as the protocols of Zion are too, these two documents are being used by radical groups such as the ku klux klan and minute men to justify their hate towards the Jews and the Mexicans, I’m not sure where did you get the impression that most of the Mexicans (30%) come here with the idea of invading the country for military and mercenary purposes although I suspect that Alex implanted that idea to you to sell you the same old fear, most of the Mexicans here not even know how to read, they don’t even know the Mexican constitution and very few of them have actually read the bible let alone have read that obscure document of plan of san Diego that just looking on the internet you can never find it’s true source other than White Supremacy radical groups or patriot movement websites, you’re the ones promoting it because the Mexicans I know have never heard of it in their entire lives.
February 21st, 2008 at 9:46 am
WF-u motherfucker, and that’s the way it is. And as for Hillery Cunton, die bitch, die.
February 21st, 2008 at 10:04 am
Well Stevie, Looks like we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I believe we both have had viable points. Just a few quick comments though. Yes I am a Christian, matter of fact one of my nick names is Mr. Christian. I would never kill someone just to kill, but to protect myself and my family, damn right I’m going to drop that sucker. I don’t believe God would hold that against me. Jesus said in Luke 22 35-37, And he said to them, “When I sent you out with no moneybag or knapsack or sandals, did you lack anything?” They said, “Nothing.” He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword (modern day gun) sell his cloak and buy one. For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in me: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors.’ For what is written about me has its fulfillment.” What am I going to do when the SS officers come for me? Yea not much but die, but I’ll die free, don’t misunderstand I’m in no hurry to get there. But it’s our duty as patriots to not let this type of action happen on our watch. I don’t want my kids growing up in a 1984 world. Fear based peace is no peace at all. I wish you could see this for what it is, nothing less than Satan’s NWO. For in the end times Satan is to rule the world and through the NWO/UN is how it’s going to happen. Without the wisdom of God (God opening your eyes to, not compairing myself to God, I fall very short of that) these things can not be understood. I know being a Atheist this might be a hard concept to grasp.
Read The True Story of the Bilderberg Group by Daniel Estulin lot of great info on CFR, Trilats, etc. Think you’ll like it. Also check out Alex’s 911 series and Dave VonKlise 911 In Plane Sight.
I’ve enjoyed out debate look forward to more on other subjects. Who knows mabey we’ll find some common ground somewhere else.
Until then friend take care,
Number 6
February 21st, 2008 at 10:30 am
Z.O.G., some people just don’t get it.
February 21st, 2008 at 10:51 am
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February 21st, 2008 at 11:52 am
Hi again Number 6,
I own some of Alex’s documentaries and in fact the 911 in plane site, which is loose change narrated by the old man, the theory of the missile etc… I’m not the ignorant you think I am, just to remind you, I wasted almost 6 years listening to Alex, I’ve heard it all, but I am tired of all the irracional conclusions, half truths, exaggerations and distortion of the facts, not all of it’s crap, government or CIA black ops I can imagine that it happens, USS liberty did happen, was it incompetence or was it evil nobody knows for sure, there is some common ground between you and me believe it or not, I’m not the kind of guy that rejects the evil of the events as they unfold but I’m not the person that can easily jump into conclussions either, I have my doubts that Osama is the mastermind of the 911 attacks just as much that it was Bush who did it, I simply don’t have evidence against neither of them, if I’m going to be hated for this then shame on everybody it’s not my fault that there are not hard conclussive evidence maybe in the future somebody steps forward, maybe one of the demo speciallist could tell his story of how they planted bombs on the twin towers, but so far I don’t have any reason to believe this conspiracy theory in particular that is being promoted by Alex (and he’s getting rich for it).
As for owning guns, it’s fine with me if you want to own them, I personally don’t believe in guns but I’m tolerant of other responsible people who want to feel secure by them, but everytime an innocent dies at hand of a street criminal, from a gangster or innocent children being killed on schools then the shame is not on me either, the shame is on everyone that feels protected by them and are distributing and encouraing. Owning a gun doesn’t really bring any kind of protection because the guns are never there when you really need them, unless you’re a cowboy in the wild wild west.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Stevie you gotta be either the dumbest mother fucker iv’e ever seen at infowars, or your a fucking cointel. It’s scary to me, but I think you are actually a real person. And what’s really scary is that you claim to be educated, having listened to Alex for 6 years.
It’s obvious you have no appreciation whatsoever for the founding fathers, or the gift of the 2nd amendment which IS THE ONLY DEFENSE OF THE PEASANTS AGAINST TYRANNY.
Your doubting Thomas impression astounds me. It defies reality.
Why don’t you explain WTC7 for us, genius?
How about executive order #11000? Or #10995-12919?
Why don’t you explain SOP failure on 911 for two fucking hours?
How about Norm Minetta, Willie Rodriegez, and countless others?
Why don’t you debunk http://www.patriotsquestion911.com- your clearly smarter than these people?
Why don’t you explain the benefits of secrecy, despite what Kennedy warned?
Why don’t you re-spin the Oswald story for us all? -Despite Hunts confession.
Why don’t you rationalize Money Masters for us all?
Why don’t you rationalize Arron Russo’s “Freedom to facism” for us?
Why don’t you tell us about the oil mafia that effectively doubled their profits overnight?
Why don’t you explain Stan Mayer genius? http://www.waterpoweredcar.com
Why don’t you downplay the brutal and unconstitutional encroachment of the police state?
How about justifying torture, twinkie? 8th amendment, case you forgot.
Why don’t you tell us how great it is our governments infested and controlled by secret societies?
I could go on all day long, and spam literally millions of connected dots till I literally pass out from exhaustion, but why? You apparently enjoy living with your head up your ass. Your obviously a complete fucking idiot past the red levels on the denial meter. Do us all a favor and go back to work, quit wasting yours and our time here, and stay glued to the idiot box.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Why should I waste my time with you and all the insults you’re throwin at me, Number 6 at least is very respectful, could you do better than him?
Many of the founding fathers were also pro-slavery, so it isn’t like you have to praise them as demi-gods either. Having black slaves was something acceptable at the time, the same as bearing arms was something necessary, but we don’t live on those times anymore that’s my point, there’s no purpose bearing arms anymore we don’t have the same level of violance as we did two hundred years ago, you have to understand that.
Other thoughts on cascade:
WTC 7 was damaged.
Executive order #11000: Re: Labor Organization in the event of an emergency, it’s Very Wise.
Ecerutive Order #10995: Re: Telecommunications: Very wise too.
SOP failure on 911: Incompetence.
Norm Minetta: Incompetent.
Willie Rodriguez: Making money, muslim, exploiting people emotions.
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com: conspiracy cooks.
Kenndy on secrecy: means nothing.
Oswald: Killer, idiot.
Arron Russo’s: Re: Federal Reserve, you either pay taxes or go to jail, simple.
the Browns, criminals.
oil mafia: Don’t buy gas then…
Stan Mayer: Farsant, Deceptive, how convinient that he was poisoned, but his “twin” lives, doing the same thing, and he’s hiding.. you have to be lunatic to buy in that.
Torture: I don’t justify it, so refrain from putting words on my mouth.
For every single evil event, it doesn’t mean that there’s someone or some group planning, funding and carrying out it in order to take away “your liberty and freedom” as you call it, I don’t believe that there’s someone out there, a boogey man, ancious of putting chains in your hands and feet or killing or “enslaving” 90% of us and that everyone has to carry a magical gun in order to prevent it, or that all jews consider themselves the superior race or that all mexicans want to take back their territory by killing white people, I JUST SIMPLY DON’T BUY THAT. evil events could have many causes and reasons, given a series of accidents, negligence, corruption, incompetence, buroeucracy, revenge, overreaction, ignorance, willfullnes or a multi combination of these, but from all the reasons you always choose the easier explanation, that a group of people, namely the government, bush, military industrial complex, NWO are conspiring to take away your “freedoms” and form a global government, etc. If you want to believe that crap then that is your problem, there may be corrupt people in government willing to take wrong decisions to befenit a certain group and that the collective inconscious of these people could actually influcence the domestic and foreing policy to a certain degree that it appears as if someone trully evil is pulling all these strings to bring down america and destroy the planet, but this last is just an illusion or at least it is while you don’t have real evidence. Who can deny evil and unfortunate events?
February 21st, 2008 at 2:20 pm
SANE you communist PIG, Sorry SCOBMAN, you are banned from using this forum!
February 21st, 2008 at 2:21 pm
whoah whoah guys come on, the war on the nwo will not be won with cynicism and sarcasm. but with articulate and eloquent discussions, which will lead to action
February 21st, 2008 at 2:22 pm
SANE prisonplanet forum fag moderator, cut & paste pig, Your un-american
February 21st, 2008 at 2:23 pm
SANE, you are banned from using this forum. *
February 21st, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Calm down now, Scobman. Don’t let “TRON” get the best of you, brother.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Gabriel king, a regular here I see. Cool Im calling SANE out, wish he would show his face.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Aaron Dykes said he couldnt even help me in a personal email ???
February 21st, 2008 at 2:27 pm
SANE’S a master spammer. He’s smart in alot of ways, but I doubt he owns a gun. LOL.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Ill short circuit his candy ass, he had no legitament reason to ban me except I didnt agree with him.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:28 pm
He forced me to cancel my prisonplanet tv membership too so he is costing alex some cash.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:31 pm
To be honest, SANE had me banned from pp forum for daring to suggest defending our Constitutional rights by force. How dare me. I don’t hate him, and I agree with him on alot of things, but he is fast becoming a control freak who thinks he knows everything.
Truth is, he isn’t even a solid Christian. LOL. God love him anyway.
Hell end up in a FEMA camp if he doesn’t face some hard reality soon.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:36 pm
What Alex and crew need to realize, is that hardcore Christian Constitutionalists comprise the bulk of their constituincy. Not liberal pacifists rubbing Dahli lama beads and quoting Ghandi.
And “Ghandi”, had literally nothing to do with winning the revolutionary war, and creating a Constitution to ensure the liberties of the peasantry were never again trodden upon.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Oh so he banned you too? His moderator power has turned into dictator power, we should protest his job to alex.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:41 pm
I guess if you dont drink SANE’s kool-aid on the PP forum your banned. Im more of a patriot then his bald headed ass. Id wish he would show up to defend his actions.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:46 pm
One of his minions said I was smoking crack, then SANE laughed, I said “keep it up and Ill cancel my PP tv membership” and he banned me and his minion is still active.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:49 pm
I call for SANE’s impeachment. He is hurting alex and his cash flow. Creating mad viewers who donated 2300 to ron paul and thinks he is so cool when he is a real jerk.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Sanes posted more comments than i’ve ever drawn individual breaths. For someone who prides themself as an “intellectual”, he certainly overlooks the 1st amendment right of others. LOL.
Maybe we should organize an intervention, just like for drug addicts, out of love and concern for SANE. Restrict him from the keyboard while he undergoes therapy. LOL.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:58 pm
He ignores “Intellectual rights” too when he cuts & pastes others articles. Too bad I cant unlease my MPAA fag friends on him.
February 21st, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Even if you were, “smoking crack”, that should not diminish your right to express an opposing opinion. The neo cons recently discredited Willie Nelson for “smoking pot”. Well, I say, pass the joint, and let’s watch WTC7 freefall on repeat play together.
I’ll back Sanes impeachment, and temporary ban for one month. Maybe that would be enough time for him to reflect upon the error of his ways.
February 21st, 2008 at 3:02 pm
it is true, gabriel, that the christian constitutionalist do comprise the bulk of their following. its been ever so evident now that we can post comments on here. i wonder if its because they truly do want a 1 world government, hence justifying the book of revelations, and proof that jebus is coming soon.
damn solar cult
February 21st, 2008 at 3:03 pm
The ban is temp? 1 month ? Its too easy to skirt the system and get back on now but thats not how I want to do it. I want an apology as well. Its the principle of the matter. I dunno even know what crack looks like.
February 21st, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Oh, come on now Scobman. Banning him for a month is enough. Have a little pity- the guy is somewhat patriotically dysfunctional, and deluded a little. Apologies forced are not sincere. LOL.
February 21st, 2008 at 8:48 pm
“The Jewish people as a whole will become its own Messiah. It will attain world dominion by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy and by the establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship.
In this New World Order the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition. The Governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state.
Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which is said that when the Messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole world in their hands.” -Baruch Levy, Letter to Karl Marx, apparently printed by the ‘La Revue de Paris’, page 574, June 1, 1928
February 21st, 2008 at 9:13 pm
ZOG, Here’s another good article also. Check this out on dual citizenship.
C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\Dual Citizenship — Should we be worried.mht
Dual Citizenship — Loyal to Whom?
by Dan Eden
Someone wrote and asked me, “Why are there Israeli- but not Mexican-American Dual Nationals?”
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Walter actually says in this video “im glad im sitting at the right hand of satan” check it out on my youtube page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inu9vKXsrFA
May 16th, 2008 at 7:11 am
You stupid mule, it seems that the Mexican Marijuana you are smoking is so bad that is making you write incoherencies..
Definitively, mules like you should be quarantined
October 3rd, 2008 at 8:45 pm
I wish the Globalists were smoking pot , at least it would slow them down a bit , with their maniacal goal of global domination .
February 22nd, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Ra Ra! Hitlery and Walter marching the lemmings over the cliff to global serfdom.