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Historic 9/11 Debate with Bigard, Laurent, Kassovitz and Harrit on French TV
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World for 9/11 Truth
October 20, 2009
You have until October 28 to learn French because French TV France 2’s “L’objet du scandale” with Guillaume Durand will air a historic debate over the official version of the 9/11 events.
On one side: 4 people with the hard task to defend the official version. On the other side, Jean-Marie Bigard, Mathieu Kassovitz, Éric Laurent and special guest Niels Harrit will tell France and the world why they don’t support the official theory and why they find it disturbing.
This is already a victory for the Bigard/Kassovitz camp who challenged the French media to organize a fair debate over 9/11 after being vilified by many French journalists because of their positions on 9/11. They have been called many names and even received death threats. But no serious journalist was able to challenge them on their positions and to seriously make a case against them based on facts. Now will be their chance, and like Bigard mentions in the below video, “good luck to them.”
This is also a victory for the 9/11 truth movement because the official US government conspiracy theory is supposedly not debatable. That’s what Bush said. That’s also what Obama said many times. The very fact of having a real open public debate, wherever that is, proves that the subject is debatable. And it needs to be debatable. The day we stop debating important topics is the day we surrender freedom. Not only is it debatable, but the 9/11 truth movement is growing faster than ever — worldwide — and nothing will stop it.
We hope a fair public debate will soon move to the US media as well. Pundits recently backed away from Charlie Sheen’s offer of a fair public debate on CNN’s Larry King. Are they scared they won’t be able to defend the official conspiracy theory?
This time Bigard and Kassovitz will both be in very good company. Éric Laurent, great reporter and international politics specialist wrote a book in 2004 called “La face cachée du 11 septembre” (lit: the hidden face of September 11). He also wrote books about the Kosovo war, the banking system, oil, Iran, along with the worldwide acclaimed Bush’s Secret World: Religion, Big Business and Hidden Networks. Laurent appeared on the French TV talk show “Tout le monde en parle” with Thierry Ardisson in 2003, in which he defended his book on 9/11 in a 32 minute interview. A great interview, with great questions and a fair treatment. Laurent knows about 9/11 inside and out.
As if these three were not enough to create a very powerful debate over 9/11, a special guest will join their rank. Niels Harrit, is the lead author of the 2009 published scientific paper entitled Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe along with scientists Kevin Ryan and Steven E. Jones. It will be Harrit’s first appearance on French TV.
We wish good luck to all participants and we can’t wait to see this debate. Most of all, we really would appreciate those who will defend the official theory to actually try to support their claims with real arguments instead of throwing names at their opponents. Calling us Holocaust deniers won’t help your cause. The Holocaust was real. Rwanda was real. And if there is one thing you should learn from these horrible events is that questioning the power structures is a sign of health in a society. So get over it, we’ve heard you say it many times over and just between us, you look anything but intelligent when you hide behind this mask.
We will try to post the video here with English subtitles as soon as we can after the debate.
Jean-Marie Bigard announcing the 9/11 debate
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October 20th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Finally the rest of the world is catching on…let’s see if any US media even mentions this “debate”…I do hope it doesn’t become a shouting fest like what goes on all the time on Fox…
jimbobjones Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
lol the rest of the world is catchin on??????the rest of the world knew about 9/11 way before you slow ass americans did
Gerri Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Jimbobjones…I’m disappointed in your opinion of us “slow ass americans”…
The only worldwide outspoken truth about 911 that I ever heard or read was a guy in Japan…
I didn’t see any articles that ever questioned the “official story”…and if there were…they were quickly “discredited”…
And can you blame Americans for being “slow”…we’ve been ensnared in the matrix ever since we were forced into “gubernment” education….
Might want to look up John Taylor Gatto…Alex interviewed him a couple years ago…
I just recently read up on Mr. Gatto and his understandings…and I no longer blame the American Public for being so “stupid”…it’s not our fault…and it will take a generation or more to undo the damage done…
Hammer Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:58 am
You’re right Gerri. Sad to say, americans were brought up to be stupid.
Doctor Who Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Americans are not stupid Hammer. I’m from the UK but all the Americans I’ve met are kind warm hearted people. Their only crime is trust. They believed the lie. They believed that they lived in the land of the free, that they could trust their government and their media but sadly trusting and government are two things that should never go together.
More and more American people are beginning to wake up to the lie. So when they do, and they come here to learn more, treat them with kindness and respect and you’ll find, I think, that they wake up even faster.
Ampkilla Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Well put Doctor Who.
concerned citizen of planet earth Reply:
October 24th, 2009 at 12:10 am
Here here Doctor
StarinaNovak Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 6:57 am
I would not say you are “slow ass” or “stupid”.
Controlled heard might be better term for you.
I recommend a book, “Animal farm”.
team zero Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 7:23 am
sad but tue….read 1984 after animal farm…
Peace
InvestigatEverything Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Great point Jimbo!! LOL. I’m American and I can definitely say that our friends abroad suspected foul play way prior to us coming around. But give us credit. There are many of us that are now awake. Hopefully it’s not too late!!
Jim Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
All I hear is that my tin foil hat is too tight. But I won’t stop. You’re never going to convince everyone of anything.
anti/PRO Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Quiet! Im listening to a french guy talk!
Roberto Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
At least 911 DISCLOSED two GROUPS of AMERICANS. The genuine and the trolls.
American Veteran Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
jimbob jones good lord thats about as redneck as you can get. go to a family reunion find your female cousins mate with them and bring more idiots into the world.
spawnocide Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Spawn of 911 them there people under them explosions http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3cEHTInfPA
Roberto Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Good video. I had to stop looking. (Robots) They should see this before going to WAR.
Unconquered Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Ok, its official: All the jokes about the French being wussies for not resisting the Nazis must now end. They have bigger stones than we do in america. we should all hang our heads in shame. Nazis aren’t even pointing guns at us and we do nothing.
RJB Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 3:48 am
The French underground resistance were famous for their resistance efforts, and for their brutal enforcement of loyalty and secrecy. Traitors and collaborators were summarily shot. Many shot themselves rather than be captured, to protect their comrades.
Americans could learn a lot from the French. Sure, they got it wrong with the Magineaux Line, and the Vichy government, but they got it right once the Nazis took over and they took the fight underground. The Americans would not have had the success we had in France without them. A lot more Americans would have died.
Screwball Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:36 pm
funny… cos I saw Private Ryan an I didn’t see any French in it.
American Veteran Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
what the hell was that french guy saying?????
RJB Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 3:43 am
Where are the hunger stikes?
Who has been willing to publicly starve themsleves, to death if necessary, to demand the truth?
I guess nobody really wants the truth THAT bad.
Until at least some Americans get brave and serious enough to literally put their lives on the line for the truth, visibly and publicly, so that they cannot be ignored, we will not get it, not publicly anyway.
StarinaNovak Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 6:55 am
We are catching on??
Well, it is US who is to catch on.
Max Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:46 pm
LMAO the many in rest of the world new it when was happening. Japan already debated in parliament on TV. The Illuminati run press runs America’s mind. they cannot think for themselves especially the stooges in military and law enforcement in storm trooper costumes.
Hawk Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Thank God for French Television. Charlie Sheen asked CNN to play a live debate on 9/11. L…..M…..A….O. A live debate about the decor of Michael Jackson’s funeral, but 9/11 yeah right!
Hawk Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:14 pm
People in here NEED to know that Alex Jones is a New World Order Shill. His purpose is to stir up fear within the american population, to keep people in a constant state of anxiety. I used to listen to him all the time, until I did my homework.
Why is he a New World Order Shill?
1. Bill Cooper brilliantly exposed him LYING during the Y2K bug. Among his preposterous lies were that Russia had declared martial law and was traversing down the street in tanks, nuclear power plants in america were shutting down.
2. He “snuck into” Bohemian Grove. Yeah………right! There were two other people who tried the same thing, and guess where they ended up: IN PRISON. There is as much secret service in Bohemian Grove as there is in the White House. Alex Jones’ purpose was to whitewash the evil occult rituals and show that the elite are just having a good ‘ol occult time.
3. He pretends to believe EVERYTHING his guests have to say. No matter how ridiculous his guests are. This is especially true when you watch the interviews with David Icke. Not only does he pretend to believe in the ludicrous drabble of David Icke, but he encourages him to rant. Most people in the conspiracy community are wise enough to disregard David Icke’s thoughts as absolute rubbish, not Alex Jones.
4. His interview with Charlie Sheen. Watch carefully and you will see that the WHOLE THING IS SCRIPTED. It’s as if they are at a table read rehearsing before the first day of filming. I’m not kidding, if you watch it carefully the conversation does not seem even close to real.
5. He NEVER addresses Jesuit/Vatican conspiracies. The guys from cloak and dagger believe that he is a Jesuit operative and offer some very convincing evidence to this fact. In any event, if he is a conspiracy theorist trying to expose the evils of the world government why wouldn’t he at the very least entertain conspiracy theories regarding the vatican.
If anybody has anything else please let me know.
Do not believe in this CIA Agent’s Lies!!
Gerri Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Hawk…Alex isn’t all evil…he tells people to do the research themselves…find out for ourselves…don’t drink the fluoridated water…stock up on food supplies…get off the couch and do something…anything…hmmm…none of it sounds bad to me…
We all are entitled to our opinions…and yes there are some “interviews” that he does that don’t seem “kosher”…but at least he’s trying get information out to people…and the variety he presents isn’t a conspiracy…really…
He’s on everyday…good God…there are so many conspiracies going on in this world…he may get “distracted”…it’s his show…he can talk about whatever he wants…I don’t hold it against him because he doesn’t talk about what I think he should…
Look…Hawk…you could start your own Radio Show…and talk about whatever you’d like…
I have complete respect for Mr. Jones and what he’s done and doing…he’s first and foremost…human…mistakes happen…
October 20th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
I believe most of us already know the truth. As sad as that is…
chickenmcnuggets Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
911 never forget the CoVER UP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA8nvCPnHJ4
RJB Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 3:50 am
When I say we need to get at the truth, it implies that JUSTICE should immediately follw. Right now we have the truth, but no public admission or effort to render justice to the guilty.
October 20th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
LOL the 9/11 truth people’ll be portrayed as right-wing by the french media, and left-wing by the american, most likely.
Tim Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Right wing, left wing – baloney! You’re either for humanity or against it. You’re either with the gov’t crime syndicate or with the people.
RJB Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 3:52 am
I’ve been accused of being a bleeding heart Marxist liberal and a jackbooted Nazi, all in the same day, in the same discussion group. Most people wouldn’t know the difference if it hit them upside the head.
October 20th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
I can not wait untill the truth is realized by the American public…when that happens the house of cards will crash…the real perps must be really afraid …the people will go nuts over this treason and murder
ron paul Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
There was no gov. conspiracy in 9/11.
October 20th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
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October 20th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
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October 20th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
The French People are to be looked up to.
raise taxes a tad. RIOTS…
Je parle Francais!..
October 20th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
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JJ Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Send this to your SENATORS too:
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Global warming or global governance?
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October 20th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
On botte des culs nous , la théorie du 11 septembre on y croit pas !!! aux armes !!!!!!!!!!! nous sommes les marseillaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis !!!!!!!!!! ET NOUS ALLONS GAGNER !!!!!! AUX ARRRRRRRRRRRMES !!!!!
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
C’est le moment d’en déchirer des nouveaux !!!
October 20th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
This is another step in a long walk. As long as we keep on walking, we’ll progress to our desired destination!
Foreign investigation into 9/11 is very important. When presented with the findings of true 9/11 investigation, our brethren in other countries will not have their defenses up like Americans will. Many Americans instinctively reject the truth in order to preserve their emotional balance. In other words, they want to believe all is well and get back to their personal prusuits. In outside nations, this threat to ones mental well being isn’t as heightened–the mind is open.
As an American, I am very pleased to have any intelligent research or discussions from outside our country. This material is a powerful tool to waking up Americans. It says to the viewer, “see, a rational discussion is taking place there, why can’t we do the same in the country that was most affected by the events of 9/11?”
StarinaNovak Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 7:00 am
You can do it in France, Sweden, Norway, Spain, Portugal, Netherlands, Belgium, Austria, Germany … In fact, those discussiona are quite frequent, but will not get air time in US media.
Not in USA.
All you have to do is ask simple question.
Why?
October 20th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9/11.
twncpcone Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
And there was no holocaust either.
RightofRush Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:25 am
Yes there was a holocaust. Aprox. nine million Germans lost their lives in the ethnic cleansing of Prussia, Silesia, Pomerania, Sudetenland, etc., after hostilities ceased.
RJB Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 4:03 am
Holocaust? OK. Which one of the many holocausts would you be talking about exactly?
The Ukranian Holocaust where up to 30 million Ukranian Christians were starved to death under Josef Stalin and his mostly Jewish Bolsheviks?.
The Chinese Holocaust where up to 60 million educated Chinese were murdered in what they called their “Cultural Revolution”, for the crime of being too educated?
The 20 million Native Americans who died in the American Holocaust after Columbus arrived?
OHHHHH, you mean the Jewish Holocaust, which was the least significant of all of them, if it happened as is reported?
Ask yourself WHY the only Holocaust most people ever heard of was the smallest of all of them, aside from the Turks killing 2 million Armenians.
Why would the owners and controllers of our mass media only want you to know about THEIR holocaust, as if it was the only one?
RightofRush Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Your reading comprehension needs an upgrade. The Holocaust mentioned was the nine million Germans killed during ethnic cleansing.
amalgom virgo Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:39 pm
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. Did you notice how they changed the topic to the holocaust vs. the planes of 9-11?! Watch out for misdirection when talking about the truth that there were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11.
October 20th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
We live in China and are huge Infowars followers, 9/11 was an inside job not by American people, it was the international Illuminazi.
October 20th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Bull Crap!
I am American.
I knew that something was fishy with 9-11 as I was watching it LIVE !!!!!
The first thing suspicious was the airplane numbers. 11, 77, 93 and 175.
Some of us knew AS IT WAS HAPPENING.
We are not as slow as you think we are.
And if you have a good solution, then maybe you can go up to Washington, D.C. and tell them all about it.
I’m sure they will be glad to listen.
RJB Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 4:05 am
A Russian general reported that they watched it live via spy satellites, and knew it was bogus before the planes even hit the buildings.
Fantastic Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 7:48 am
Can you be more detailed and specific about the suspicious nature of the airplane numbers? Thanks.
Crito Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:37 pm
WTC7 is the only issue. There’s absolutely no way to debunk the building’s obvious demolition. Don’t let them distract you with anything else.
WTC7, WTC 7, WTC-7, 7WTC
no jet fuel involved in the fire +
Barry Jennings eyewitness to explosions +
symmetrical implosion into its own footprint = INSIDE JOB.
October 20th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
I can see it now “French crackpots challenge 9-11 report” courtesy Fox News… but this is great that someone is being heard.
October 20th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
looking forward to this.a fresh perspective will be well received…
October 20th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Charlie Sheen offered to do same on Fox and they are know they cannot defend the official story in a fair debate and thus knew better than take on Charlie. This show will end up being an eye opening event for France even though most in France, Italy, and Spain know what really happened on 9/11 that want to know. I have spent my past two summers there and know this first hand.
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Yep , n’ Charlie won that so clearly , it’s embarassing ( these roaches didn’t even show up !!! )
October 20th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Rothschild says… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....rofilepage
October 20th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Does Berlitz make a 9/11 French edition?
October 20th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
SOMEBODY please do myself & the world a HUGE service & please subtitle this debate … GET IT UPLOADED ONTO THE WEB & THE LETS GET THE WORLD to OPEN their EYES >>> MAYBE THEN PRESSURE WILL BE BROUGHT TO BEAR & people will finally see the truth……(Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light–George Washington) PEACE!!!!!!!
October 20th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
questioning the power structures is a sign of health in a society.
i disagree i think its a sign of low moral and distrust
Big Mowma Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. Thomas Paine
RJB Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 4:11 am
Trust should be EARNED and moral should be based on something real, not to be happy just for the sake of being happy, by avoiding the necessary pain of facing painful issues and working your way through them.
Governments proved long ago that they cannot be trusted.
Reagan said “Trust, but verify”.
We trusted, now, two endless wars and trillions of dollars in crippling debt later, its time to verify that our trust was not badly misplaced, as it appears to have been.
Truth and justice have a way of restoring moral.
October 20th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Okay, so you all knew the official story was a bunch of crap. Now do something about it! Write letters to your local paper asking for a new investigation! Don’t just sit there and let the rest of us do the work for you…..and yes, I am doing the work.
RJB Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 4:17 am
Appeals to the criminal purpetrators, or their criminal friends who helped cover it up and take us to war with the wrong enemy, are going to succeed. They cannot possibly succeed. We should not waste any more time begging criminals to stop being criminals and fess up. They aren’t going to, because their lives are literally at stake if they do.
Only popular will and FORCE will achieve justice in this case. Everything else is, and has been, a waste of time. The only value has been in educating the people, but until we rise up and TAKE justice, they will not give it to us, and we will not get it.
Think about it people. We are asking that the complicit mass media and those in government who were responsible put the noose around their own necks, just because we ask them to.
REPEAT AFTER ME: “IT ISN’T GOING TO HAPPEN THAT WAY”.
RJB Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 4:36 am
Correction: “Appeals to the criminal purpetrators, or their criminal friends who helped cover it up and take us to war with the wrong enemy, are NOT going to succeed…”
October 20th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
A lot of people that died were not Americans. That should be an ‘international’ crime scene.
RJB Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 3:34 am
If only the international community would have insisted. We were too shocked to even think straight at the time, which put us at a disadvantage.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
keep telling people the truth about 9/11, absolutely do not give up. we can not be silent about this, that is exactly what they want us to do, so we do the opposite, we don’t stop talking about, we don’t stop learning more about it. we never forget. hear that bush – cheney – rumsfeld – rice, the truth is coming for you!!!!
RJB Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:09 pm
I’m not saying we should just shut up, not by any means. All I am saying is to not expect anything to change just because we are making lots of noise. They have become all too good at simply ignoring us, no matter how much noise we make. They have no shame, so cannot be shamed or embarassed.
No, the needed change will only come by a show of FORCE.
These criminals only understand FORCE. It is the only thing they will respond to. Their lives are on the line, so do not expect them to give up ANYTHING, except by FORCE.
Plymouth Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:10 pm
puppetsinDC is right.
RJB is wrong. Force is useless unless the majority of the population has already woken up. The elite will demonise the people showing force and portray them as terrorists unless the majority of the population has already woken up. They’ll slaughter the people showing force.
Therefore we need to keep waking people up. The reason they ignore us is that the majority of people have not yet woken up. I’d say we’re at about 20% of people fully awake.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
vivre la france , fuck the american pigs . i gotta agree with one the comment bout americans being slow , u ppl dont even know shit bout the world but ur own . ur education system sucks ass , half of u dont even finish highschool or if u do then go to college u work 3 fucking jobs just to pay back ur student loanse . when this job not enough , u work 2 more jobs and not have time to educate ur own kids u just let the govt system do it for u on the tele , and this 1 guy comment he talkin about its gonna take 1 or more generation to wake americans up , oh plz with that shit ur kids are now learning to obey Obama and snitch on u yes u parents if u oppose what he does , then their kids gonna grow up to be dumb asses just like u cause they were never though better . americans lives is focus on the TV 24/7 thats their main education , the women there cant cook shit so its get home give the family hamburger helpers and thats it , there no more spending time with family in america these were the old days , its all about work work work work , making money , paying the morgage , paying the car note , the student loans , assurance , no health care or if there is one its gonna cost half of ur salary just for medical coverage , then they gonna be 70 – 80 years old still working at walmart till they die and moving on to the next generation and so on….
RJB Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 3:27 am
Watch this BBC documentary “The Century of the Self” and you will see how and why Americans are the way they are today. They are not to blame, though they are responsible for recognizing what has been done to them, and finding their way back to their basic humanity, and away from being socially engineered “consumers”.
http://www.moviesfoundonline.c.....e_self.php
RJB Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 3:32 am
You will see that the roots of what has been done to socially engineer America are in Europe, and lead back to Sigmund Freud, and his nephew, Edward Bernays, the father of modern propaganda and public relations.
Even Hitler used Bernays book “Propaganda” as the blueprint for Nazi mind mass control. The same principles were applied in both Europe and America, though with slightly differnt goals. The goal here was to create a huge nation of Pavlovian “consumers” to gernate massive profits for the banks and corporations. In Europe, it was used to build the Nazi war machine and for societal control in the aftermath of the war.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:37 am
Here is the traduction
http://www.dailymotion.com/vid.....911-o_news
October 21st, 2009 at 4:11 am
Hi,
at last, a debate in France. So far it’s been like “no, you can’t talk about 9/11 and question the official version, you damn conspiracy theorist! you’re being anti american blah blah blah. You’re a negationist and so on and so forth” while Bigard merely said “ok, the official version says that, but I find it hard to believe, there are some weird details, things that don’t add up. I’m not saying anything else. I’m just having doubts.” Well, the media made his life miserable cuz of that.
October 21st, 2009 at 4:34 am
I’d be very interested to know WHY this particular message is deemed to be “Awaiting moderation”.
RJB Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 5:03 am
Could it be because I compared the social engineering of mass mind control by Bernays and Freud to the experiments conducted in Nazi concentration camps?
Which do you think dehumanized and killed more people?
Which one has gone on for generations and still threatens an entire nation, and the entire world?
October 21st, 2009 at 5:05 am
Funny how a discussion about the lack of a debate in America is being “moderated” to limit and control the debate.
Rather hypocritical, I should say, is it not? Is it not exactly what is being discussed as being a problem?
October 21st, 2009 at 7:10 am
What will it take to get American media outlets, small and large, to run this story. I also believe insider trading and the specific parties involved with trading on 9/11 should be thoroughly exposed. If we went after other inside traders, why do these folks get a free pass? You know why!!!
nader paul kucinich gravel Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 9:02 am
Wall Street
Glorify Israel
Anti 9/11 Truth
bbc beck blitzer bolton breitbart coulter
cspan drudge gutfeld hannity huckabee imus
ingraham krauthammer kristol limbaugh malkin
north oreilly rivera rove scarborough stossel susteren
Gotta Serve Somebody by Bob Dylan
RJB Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:18 pm
What will it take to get American media outlets to report the truth and demand accountability?
A change of ownership, for one.
Anyone got an extra few hundred billion dollars lying around they could lend us?
Maybe Alex should lead a campaign to raise enough money to buy one of the major networks, and then he and us would have the bullhorn we need.
If we could get a million patriots to give $1,000 each, there would be the first billion.
How about a few Hollywood millionaire armchair quarterbacks kick in a million a piece?
Charlie Sheen probably wouldn’t even miss a measely million. He could make that back
in a heartbeat.
Maybe the problem is we have not been setting our sights high enough.
Of course, there is that FCC licensing thing that could get in the way.
RJB Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 2:50 am
Alex could set up an escrow or trust fund, and invite patriots everywhere to invest. An accounting would be kept of each patriot’s contribution to the fund.
The money thus invested could then be invested into gold and silver, which he says he expects to continue their dreastic increase in value, relative to the dollar.
With the massive profits generated, a network could be either purchased or established, and everyone who contributed would become a shareholder.
Just some thoughts on raising money and leveraging to enable us to accomplish more than we would through donations alone.
Bottom line is that it might be easier to raise money if it was structured as an investment, rather than as a donation.
We need to learn from our corporate enemies, and use their own tools to strengthen ourselves, as they do themselves.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:39 pm
http://www.dailymotion.com/vid.....cal-pa_fun
Johnny Sundown Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Eh merde! Ça ne marche Plus, non? Pour le traduction, on est prête, je croit!
Oui, Allons-y. Putain, alors déjà.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:09 am
I don´t speak french, so I don´t know what the heck this is all.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:13 am
I got another message for YOU: God is dead! The people killed him.
When men at last pass the intersection to supermen, they won´t need any god.
All they need and all they have will be humanity!
RJB Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:03 am
The biggest weakness and self-destructive characteristic of humanity is a strong tendency toward pridefullness, arrogance, and narcissism. Looking to something beyond ourselves, something bigger and more powerful than ourselves, acts as a counterbalance.
The only thing that would be a bigger delusion that a blind belief in a God that many argue may or may not exist, is for man to believe himself a god, and that some men are greater gods, and some lesser, just because they have decided for themselves, something which they have no intellectual, logical, or moral right to declare, given what little we know about the universe, and ourselves.
If god does not exist, it does not make us gods by default. We are still just tiny blobs of carbon and water based goo, crawling around on a tiny speck of dust, like a colony of microbes screwing and devouring each other, and feeling somehow superior when we do.
Whatever we do here, we are as close to being nothing in the grand scheme of things as we could possibly be in that context. It serves us best, and keeps us closer to the truth of things, for us to remain humble, whether there is a God in heaven to bless us for it, or not.
History is repleat with examples of all the bad things that happen whenever men take themselves to be gods.
el nino Reply:
October 28th, 2009 at 4:51 am
to the first part: absolutely.
to the second part: you don´t see that humans are indeed something special
and what it is that divides them from the other animals! that´s your problem.
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:10 am
The American people aren’t stupid their just dependant on the media for information because they have to work so much and care for their kids. they have come to trust the media so much that any alternate view is shunned from the get go. But there is nothing like a hungry gut to wake someone up even if it is to late.
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:21 am
First lets start with the FACT that 8 out of the 19 “highjackers were alive and well after 911. Three of them wanted to fly to the US and give interviews and ask why their faces and names were being used as killers?!!(A complete US media blackout was ordered against anyone trying to interview these people. The US media corporations are owned by the top US military corporations, GE owns NBC, Westinghouse owns CBS. The media companies do everything their military owners tell them to do. If half the supposed highjackers show up alive…then the military companies have just lost TRILLIONS in military spending. That is why you will never see these men on TV ever again!)
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11!! That means there were no highjacking terrorists!!!! Who cares about the rabbit hole story of where they were trained…THERE WERE NO COMMERCIAL PLANE CRASHES ON 9-11. Be careful of the rabbit holes. Focusing on ‘highjackers’ when there were no commercial plane crashes is a waste of time. Instead focus only on debris verification. After 8 years not one single piece has ever been verified from ANY of the 4 planes from 9-11…..not one single piece. Why? Because there were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11.
RJB Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:06 am
Yes, all te wreckage should be put up for public examination and scrutiny. Al lserial numbers should be verified and cross-checked against maintenace logs.
Just the same, it does serve us well to also document the parallel operation that was setup to provide us with convenient patsies to blame. It is all part of deciphering the whole story, not just parts of it.
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:18 pm
I just read a CRAZY article about a US political refugee living in Argentina who just came out with a book about his findings while working for FEMA at the WTC after 9/11!
He’s got a LOT of evidence in the form of videotapes of the WTC site, WTC 7, and has been harassed and imprisoned by the US government since then—hence his move to Argentina for political asylum.
check out the story:
http://world911truth.org/911-f.....es-public/
this guy is an ex-insider…..talk about a credible source! as one Argentinian Senator said: “it is their {the US’} behavior that belies their true motivations”
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Sorry to put a damper on things… as it were.
But you are all getting carried away before the programme has aired. How do you lot know that the French broadcasters aren’t going to do what the BBC does (at every chance it gets)….. that is show both sides, but make it look that official story is the correct one….. a ‘hit piece’, I think they call it.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:49 am
to inform, the debate will not be because it has been canceled by the chanel.
see you later as they used to…because the subject is too polemical and too sensible
for be traited on france2. The censure on the questioning and challenging 9/11 is reality
in France where most of media and journalist are impossible to think… don’t forget
we have said in a past that tchernobyl radioactive clouds have been stopped in the border
to be continued…
by a frenchie
October 24th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
republic,rapidly withdraw,let the insurgents run right into the new democracy,put a bounty\open season on the insurgents,send them varmint hunting,level economic sanctions,bring in missionaries[possibly christian\the single group to contribute the most to humanity]to raise townships,the new economy willspring
October 28th, 2009 at 6:44 am
The french public channel, decided not to do this debate anymore, this decision was taken this last week end…. It’s a small victory anyway with this turnover…..
October 29th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
The debate did happen yesterday on french TV but unfortunately they refused to invite the physician Niels Harrit.
here is the link of the video without subtitles, I hope that you would be able to understand something of this heated debate :
http://www.dailymotion.com/vid.....sur-f_news