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History: How the US Government Was Overthrown In Three Easy Steps
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TocqueDeville
Daily Kos
July 27, 2008
So what if I told you that the powers of financial capitalism (bankers etc.), had a far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands, able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole.
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This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world’s central banks which were themselves private corporations?
And what if I told you they had succeeded?
Wow! The most powerful bankers creating a world system of financial control, dominating the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole, with secret meetings. Surely you would think Tocque has fallen under the spell of a wild conspiracy theory.
But you can put away the cat in the tinfoil hat. Those are not my words. And it’s not a theory. They are the words of one of the greatest, most eminent historians in modern times, the late Carroll Quigley – of Harvard, Princeton and the Georgetown Foreign School.
Here is Bill Clinton referring to his former college professor Quigley at the 1992 Democratic convention:
"As a teenager, I heard John Kennedy’s summons to citizenship. And then, as a student at Georgetown I heard that call clarified by a professor named Carroll Quigley, who said to us that America was the greatest nation in history because our people had always believed in two things: that tomorrow can be better than today and that every one of us has a personal moral responsibility to make it so."
Quigley could write credibly about the far reaching aims of these ruling elites because he himself was a member of the ruling class and, as such, he was given unprecedented access to their private files and records. When he published these words in his 1300 page tome, Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time, not only was he adding to the historical record a previously untold story, he was making history himself in doing so.
The story I am about to share is critically important. One simply cannot understand politics without understanding the significant role the ruling class plays in it – behind the scenes, and beyond the grasp of democratic oversight. Quigley is an essential introduction to what I call the adult history of the world. And it is only with this historical understanding that we can understand the forces shaping our world, and possibly hope to affect them.
The time for the common man, or at the very least the educated political class like us, to be let in on the secret has long since passed. To take our country back, we must know who exactly we are taking it back from. And we must know what their real agenda is, and their methods for achieving it. It is simply unacceptable in this information age for so many to be oblivious to the real forces of political power, and to allow those forces to operate in secrecy.
These excerpts from Quigley are just the beginning. And while his revelations are about the financial powers of the early 20th Century, they are essential for understanding the power structures that exist today.
Perhaps most importantly, his revelations help us recognize that there is indeed a power class, working behind the scenes, acting upon our government, the mass media and education to bring about a world that is very much contrary to the interests and aims of the public.
The Historian Spills the Beans
Tragedy and Hope is not a book about the ruling class, and it is certainly not a "conspiracy" book. It is, as its title says, a history of the modern world. Quigley has merely reinserted the role of the ruling powers back into the narrative where they belong for any accurate account.
But in the process, Quigley drops a number of bombshells. And I don’t mean two week press cycle bombshells. I mean rewrite history bombshells. Here is an incredibly brief synopsis of some of them, followed by the relevant excerptions. (I have linked to the excerpt that corresponds to each item. Just click the number to quickly scroll down.)
BOMBSHELL #1
Cecil Rhodes, the founder of De Beers and creator of the Rhodes’ Trust (of which the Rhodes’ Scholarship is a part) formed a secret society with some of the wealthiest and most powerful men in Britain and New York. The primary goal of this group was to federate the English speaking world and to expand the British empire. The structure of this society was an inner circle of "initiates" and outer circles of "helpers." The outer circles were called Round Table groups.
This was during the Gilded Age and it is difficult to even comprehend the wealth of these people (I posted a pic of one of their houses just to convey). And to truly understand their aims, you have to appreciate the reach of their industry. These were the first globalists of the modern era and their vision was breathtaking in scope. They sought to create a transnational trading system that would allow them unfettered access to markets and resources worldwide with minimal red tape. In essence, they were the pioneers of globalization and national sovereignty and colonial unrest was their primary impediment.
It appears the specific goals of this group evolved over the years, and their dream of a world federation gave way to a softer, more subtle alignment. But one can only describe their general aim of recalibrating the political environment, consisting of most major nations, into a global free trading system as being highly successful.
We are witnessing now the fruition of a plan set in motion over a century ago, conceived in secret, and implemented over multiple generations. And while the modern world certainly differs from that imagined by these founders, they are truly the architects of what we may call the Anglo-American empire that thrives today. They laid the foundation, both for the transnational banking and industrial system we have now, and for the methods of exerting the power to create that system.
Intermission
At this point, if this isn’t blowing your mind a bit, it’s because you already know all about Carroll Quigley and his revelations, you haven’t been reading carefully, or you think I’m off my rocker. Let me assure you, I am not a conspiracy theorist. I have zero interest in secret societies. Skull and Bones bores me. My only interest in the ruling class is their subversion, for their own aims, of American democracy, and the many crimes against humanity and nature they commit daily around the world.
It is only to the extent that they are a force in politics that I have any interest at all. Through my involvement in the entertainment industry and academic associations I have known more than a few in the ruling class (mostly their offspring) and I can tell you unequivocally that they are not all evil, Bohemian Grove is not a cult but a fancy camping trip, and that almost all the conspiracy theories you will find on the interenet are wrong. There is, as far as I know, no Illuminati or any other such bullshit. And this is not the X-Files.
What we have is pluralism meets feudalism with a hefty amount of mafia thrown in. The ruling class in the early 20th Century, as it is now, was not monolithic. And in spite of their working together to bring about one globalized order, they often compete and work against each other, just like any other political bloc. It is imperative to understand, this is not a conspiracy. It was in its conception. And the powerful certainly conspire and collude daily. But "globalization" is a movement, not too unlike the progressive movement. The difference is the globalists have literally trillions of dollars, euros, and pounds to throw around on their campaign.
BOMBSHELL #2
The Council on Foreign Relations was a front organization for this group. This shouldn’t come as any surprise. The CFR is known well now as a trade lobby. And many also already have a pretty good idea of their role in empire maintenance. But to discover their secret origins was one of Quigley’s greatest finds. And if one has any doubt about the power of the CFR, one merely has to read this bit of homespun wisdom spoken on the Senate floor from Senator Earnest Hollings (D) of South Carolina (Congressional Record, June 30, 1993, S8315):
If you ever run for President, you get very wonderful, embossed invitations from the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission, and you get the coffee and fine china, and, man, you are really a high muckety-muck.
And then what they do is get you to swear on the altar of free trade an undying loyalty and support—free trade, free trade. That is all they want. And they co-opt every one of these young Senators that want to run for President.
In England, the front is called the Royal Institute of International Affairs or Chatham House.
BOMBSHELL #3
Here Quigley describes the methods the group uses to implement its far reaching aims. I’m going to revisit this part in my next post. But this should be of special interest to us all. In fact, I place this as the most important of all of Quigley’s revelations.
"The methods can be summed up under three headings: (a) a triple-front penetration in politics, education, and journalism; (b) the recruitment of men of ability (chiefly from [certain universities) and the linking of these men to the [Group] by matrimonial alliances and by gratitude for titles and positions of power; and (c) the influencing of public policy by placing members of the [Group] in positions of power shielded as much as possible from public attention. (Carroll Quigley – The Anglo American Establishment
Thus the title of this diary – Three Easy Steps. This movement has penetrated every power structure civilized life – from politics of course, to journalism (See bombshell #4), and even down to our schools and universities, all with the goal of facilitating their control.
BOMBSHELL #4
The group had significant control over the most powerful newspapers in the US and Britain, and infiltrated the Left-wing with such instruments as the New Republic:
The American branch of this "English Establishment" exerted much of its influence through five American newspapers (The New York Times, New York Herald Tribune, Christian Science Monitor, the Washington Post, and the lamented Boston Evening Transcript)
Here begins the excerpt section. It’s a hard read with many unfamiliar names – and some you will know. But I highly recommend reading it. There is far more treasure in here than I outlined.
This association was formally established on February 5, 1891, when Rhodes and Stead organized a secret society of which Rhodes had been dreaming for sixteen years. In this secret society Rhodes was to be leader; Stead, Brett (Lord Esher), and Lord Milner were to form an executive committee; Arthur (Lord) Balfour, (Sir) Harry Johnston, Lord Rothschild, Albert (Lord) Grey, and others were listed as potential members of a "Circle of Initiates"; while there was to be an outer circle known as the "Association of Helpers" (later organized by Milner as the Round Table organization)….Thus the central part of the secret society was established by March 1891. It continued to function as a formal group, although the outer circle was, apparently, not organized until 1909-1913.
Quigley describes the "outer", Round Table group’s formation thusly:
The Round Table Groups have already been mentioned in this book several times, notably in connection with the formation of the British Commonwealth in chapter 4 and in the discussion of appeasement in chapter 12 ("the Cliveden Set"). At the risk of some repetition, the story will be summarized here, because the American branch of this organization (sometimes called the "Eastern Establishment’ ) has played a very significant role in the history of the United States in the last generation.
The Round Table Groups were semi-secret discussion and lobbying groups organized by Lionel Curtis, Philip H. Kerr (Lord Lothian), and (Sir) William S. Marris in 1908- 1911. This was done on behalf of Lord Milner, the dominant Trustee of the Rhodes Trust in the two decades 1905-1925. The original purpose of these groups was to seek to federate the English-speaking world along lines laid down by Cecil Rhodes (1853-1902) and William T. Stead (1849-1912), and the money for the organizational work came originally from the Rhodes Trust. By 1915 Round Table groups existed in seven countries, including England, South Africa, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, and a rather loosely organized group in the United States (George Louis Beer, Walter Lippmann, Frank Aydelotte, Whitney Shepardson, Thomas W. Lamont, Jerome D. Greene, Erwin D. Canham of the Christian Science Monitor, and others). The attitudes of the various groups were coordinated by frequent visits and discussions and by a well informed and totally anonymous quarterly magazine, The Round Table, whose first issue, largely written by Philip Kerr, appeared in November 1910.
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Money for the widely ramified activities of this organization came originally from the associates and followers of Cecil Rhodes, chiefly from the Rhodes Trust itself, and from wealthy associates such as the Beit brothers, from Sir Abe Bailey, and (after 1915) from the Astor family. Since 1925 there have been substantial contributions from wealthy individuals and from foundations and firms associated with the international banking fraternity, especially the Carnegie United Kingdom Trust, and other organizations associated with J. P. Morgan, the Rockefeller and Whitney families, and the associates of Lazard Brothers and of Morgan, Grenfell, and Company.
The chief backbone of this organization grew up along the already existing financial cooperation running from the Morgan Bank in New York to a group of international financiers in London led by Lazard Brothers. Milner himself in 1901 had refused a fabulous offer, worth up to $100,000 a year, to become one of the three partners of the Morgan Bank in London, in succession to the younger J. P. Morgan who moved from London to join his father in New York (eventually the vacancy went to E. C. Grenfell, so that the London affiliate of Morgan became known as Morgan, Grenfell, and Company). Instead, Milner became director of a number of public banks, chiefly the London Joint Stock Bank, corporate precursor of the Midland Bank. He became one of the greatest political and financial powers in England, with his disciples strategically placed throughout England in significant places, such as the editorship of The Times, the editorship of The Observer, the managing directorship of Lazard Brothers, various administrative posts, and even Cabinet positions. Ramifications were established in politics, high finance, Oxford and London universities, periodicals, the civil service, and tax-exempt foundations.
#2 Expanding the Empire to the US – Council on Foreign Relations
At the end of the war of 1914, it became clear that the organization of this system had to be greatly extended. Once again the task was entrusted to Lionel Curtis who established, in England and each dominion, a front organization to the existing local Round Table Group. This front organization, called the Royal Institute of International Affairs, had as its nucleus in each area the existing submerged Round Table Group. In New York it was known as the Council on Foreign Relations, and was a front for J. P. Morgan and Company in association with the very small American Round Table Group. The American organizers were dominated by the large number of Morgan "experts," including Lamont and Beer, who had gone to the Paris Peace Conference and there became close friends with the similar group of English "experts" which had been recruited by the Milner group. In fact, the original plans for the Royal Institute of International Affairs and the Council on Foreign Relations were drawn up at Paris. The Council of the RIIA (which, by Curtis’s energy came to be housed in Chatham House, across St. James’s Square from the Astors, and was soon known by the name of this headquarters) and the board of the Council on Foreign Relations have carried ever since the marks of their origin. Until 1960 the council at Chatham House was dominated by the dwindling group of Milner’s associates, while the paid staff members were largely the agents of Lionel Curtis. The Round Table for years (until 1961) was edited from the back door of Chatham House grounds in Ormond Yard, and its telephone came through the Chatham House switchboard.
The New York branch was dominated by the associates of the Morgan Bank. For example, in 1928 the Council on Foreign Relations had John W. Davis as president, Paul Cravath as vice-president, and a council of thirteen others, which included Owen D. Young, Russell C. Leffingwell, Norman Davis, Allen Dulles, George W. Wickersham, Frank L. Polk, Whitney Shepardson, Isaiah Bowman, Stephen P. Duggan, and Otto Kahn. Throughout its history the council has been associated with the American Round Tablers, such as Beer, Lippmann. Shepardson. and Jerome Greene.
The academic figures have been those linked to Morgan, such as James T. Shotwell, Charles Seymour, Joseph P. Chamberlain, Philip Jessup, Isaiah Bowman and, more recently, Philip Moseley, Grayson L. Kirk, and Henry M. Wriston. The Wall Street contacts with these were created originally from Morgan’s influence in handling large academic endowments. In the case of the largest of these endowments, that at Harvard, the influence was usually exercised indirectly through "State Street," Boston, which, for much of the twentieth century, came through the Boston banker Thomas Nelson Perkins.
The American Group and the CIA
Closely allied with this Morgan influence were a small group of Wall Street law firms, whose chief figures were Elihu Root, John W. Davis, Paul D. Cravath, Russell Leffingwell, the Dulles brothers (Alan Dulles was head of CIA) and, more recently, Arthur H. Dean, Philip D. Reed, and John J. McCloy. Other nonlegal agents of Morgan included men like Owen D. Young and Norman H. Davis.
Roots of the Anglo-American alliance
On this basis, which was originally financial and goes back to George Peabody, there grew up in the twentieth century a power structure between London and New York which penetrated deeply into university life, the press, and the practice of foreign policy. In England the center was the Round Table Group, while in the United States it was J. P. Morgan and Company or its local branches in Boston, Philadelphia, and Cleveland. Some rather incidental examples of the operations of this structure are very revealing, just because they are incidental. For example, it set up in Princeton a reasonable copy of the Round Table Group’s chief Oxford headquarters, All Souls College. This copy, called the Institute for Advanced Study, and best known, perhaps, as the refuge of Einstein, Oppenheimer, John von Neumann, and George F. Kennan, was organized by Abraham Flexner of the Carnegie Foundation and Rockefeller’s General Education Board after he had experienced the delights of All Souls while serving as Rhodes Memorial Lecturer at Oxford. The plans were largely drawn by Tom Jones, one of the Round Table’s most active intriguers and foundation administrators.(cont. below)
THE MILNER GROUP could never have been built up by Milner’s own efforts. He had no political power or even influence. All that he had was ability and ideas. The same thing is true about many of the other members of the Milner Group, at least at the time that they joined the Group. The power that was utilized by Milner and his Group was really the power of the Cecil family and its allied families such as the Lyttelton (Viscounts Cobham), Wyndham (Barons Leconfield), Grosvenor (Dukes of Westminster), Balfour, Wemyss, Palmer (Earls of Selborne and Viscounts Wolmer), Cavendish (Dukes of Devonshire and Marquesses of Hartington), and Gathorne-Hardy (Earls of Cranbrook). The Milner Group was originally a major fief within the great nexus of power, influence, and privilege controlled by the Cecil family. It is not possible to describe here the ramifications of the Cecil influence. It has been all-pervasive in British life since 1886. This Cecil Bloc was built up by Robert Arthur Talbot Gascoyne-Cecil, Viscount Cranborne and third Marquess of Salisbury (1830-1903). The methods used by this man were merely copied by the Milner Group. These methods can be summed up under three headings: (a) a triple-front penetration in politics, education, and journalism; (b) the recruitment of men of ability (chiefly from All Souls) and the linking of these men to the Cecil Bloc by matrimonal alliances and by gratitude for titles and positions of power; and (c) the influencing of public policy by placing members of the Cecil Bloc in positions of power shielded as much as possible from public attention.
The American branch of this "English Establishment" exerted much of its influence through five American newspapers (The New York Times, New York Herald Tribune, Christian Science Monitor, the Washington Post, and the lamented Boston Evening Transcript). In fact, the editor of the Christian Science Monitor was the chief American correspondent (anonymously) of The Round Table, and Lord Lothian, the original editor of The Round Table and later secretary of the Rhodes Trust (1925-1939) and ambassador to Washington, was a frequent writer in the Monitor. It might be mentioned that the existence of this Wall Street, Anglo-American axis is quite obvious once it is pointed out. It is reflected in the fact that such Wall Street luminaries as John W. Davis, Lewis Douglas, Jock Whitney, and Douglas Dillon were appointed to be American ambassadors in London.
…This group wielded great influence because it controlled the Rhodes Trust, the Beit Trust, The Times of London, The Observer, the influential and highly anonymous quarterly review known as The Round Table (founded in 1910 with money supplied by Sir Abe Bailey and the Rhodes Trust, and with Lothian as editor), and it dominated the Royal Institute of International Affairs, called "Chatham House" (of which Sir Abe Bailey and the Astors were the chief financial supporters, while Lionel Curtis was the actual founder), the Carnegie United Kingdom Trust, and All Souls College, Oxford…
Infiltrating the Left-wing and the New Republic
More than fifty years ago the Morgan firm decided to infiltrate the Left-wing political movements in the United States. This was relatively easy to do, since these groups were starved for funds and eager for a voice to reach the people. Wall Street supplied both. The purpose was not to destroy … or take over but was really threefold: (1) to keep informed about the thinking of Left-wing or liberal groups; (2) to provide them with a mouthpiece so that they could "blow off steam," and (3) to have a final veto on their publicity and possibly on their actions, if they ever went "radical."
There was nothing really new about this decision, since other financiers had talked about it and even attempted it earlier. What made it decisively important this time was the combination of its adoption by the dominant Wall Street financier, at a time when tax policy was driving all financiers to seek tax-exempt refuges for their fortunes, and at a time when the ultimate in Left-wing radicalism was about to appear under the banner of the Third International.
The best example of this alliance of Wall Street and Left-wing publications was The New Republic, a magazine founded by Willard Straight, using Payne Whitney money, in 1914. Straight, who had been assistant to Sir Robert Hart (Director of the Chinese Imperial Customs Service and the head of the European imperialist penetration of China) and had remained in the Far East from 1901 to r9l:, became a Morgan partner and the firm’s chief expert on the Far East. He married Dorothy Payne Whitney whose names indicate the family alliance of two of America’s greatest fortunes. She was the daughter of William C. Whitney, New York utility millionaire and the sister and co-heiress of Oliver Payne, of the Standard Oil "trust." One of her brothers married Gertrude Vanderbilt, while the other, Payne Whitney, married the daughter of Secretary of State John Hay, who enunciated the American policy of the "Open Door" in China. In the next generation, three first cousins, John Hay ("Jock") Whitney, Cornelius Vanderbilt ("Sonny") Whitney, and Michael Whitney ("Mike") Straight, were allied in numerous public policy enterprises of a propagandist nature, and all three served in varied roles in the late New Deal and Truman administrations. In these they were closely allied with other "Wall Street liberals," such as Nelson Rockefeller.
The New Republic was founded by Willard and Dorothy Straight, using her money, in 1914, and continued to be supported by her financial contributions until March 23, 1953. The original purpose for establishing the paper was to provide an outlet for the progressive Left and to guide it quietly in an Anglophile direction. This latter task was entrusted to a young man, only four years out of Harvard, but already a member of the mysterious Round Table group, which has played a major role in directing England’s foreign policy since its formal establishment in 1909. This new recruit, Walter Lippmann, has been, from 1914 to the present, the authentic spokesman in American journalism for the Establishments on both sides of the Atlantic in international affairs. His biweekly columns, which appear in hundreds of American papers, are copyrighted by the New York Herald Tribune which is now owned by J. H. Whitney. It was these connections, as a link between Wall Street and the Round Table Group, which gave Lippmann the opportunity in 1918, while still in his twenties, to be the official interpreter of the meaning of Woodrow Wilson’s Fourteen Points to the British government.
A final word
Please use caution when reading this. There is a broader context to this that I am unable to address in this space. Quigley’s Tragedy and Hope is over 1300 pages and these citations are scattered seamlessly throughout.
The point is not to assert that there is a secret group who is pulling the strings of the modern world. It is far more complex. It is possible that there still exist the inner circle of "initiates." But I have no evidence for it. In fact, the evidence strongly suggest that after 1910 or so, the whole organization took on a new character. And it certainly got uglier.
The point is to draw light on this hidden part of our history and the inner workings of the one percent of one percent. They love the shadows and secrecy. They control the flow of information to a horrifying extent. They have untold influence over our government in ways most people can’t imagine.
And they have a perilous vision for our world. Who has jurisdiction over a transnational economy. Who can regulate it? What democratic institution can even stand up to it?
This is the central downfall of the globalization idea. As David Rothkopf observes in this Newsweek column, having a global economy is great for the pirates, but is devasting for democracy, sovereignty, and justice.
The current financial crisis is another such example, producing serious questions about the influence of the superclass. Of the world’s elites, none has strutted the world stage for the past decade like global investment bankers. Masters of money, they created something new: global markets and a constantly evolving array of securities that were both beyond the reach and the comprehension of regulators. Now, the value of some of the complex investment vehicles they created is proving to be illusory.
As a consequence, the world economy was set for the crisis that is currently unfolding. There was no effective global regulator to keep the system in check, and there was no real voice for the average Joe. The Federal Reserve stepped in to stabilize the burnout of one of these major market makers—even though they have no jurisdiction over investment banks, even though many of those supporting the bailout/buyout were the same who have long clamored for "self-regulation," even though many were the ones who had cited the moral hazard of helping to bail out homeowners and encouraging their bad borrowing behavior. And so you have a financial leadership structure that bails out investment bankers worldwide, but not homeowners.
I’ll leave you with this video clip I excerpted from the publisher of Harper’s and Texaco heir Lewis Lapham’s movie, The American Ruling CLass
"The ruling class is so able to manipulate our democracy that they really control democracy, I feel." – Walter Cronkite
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July 27th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
The ruling elites can only control things as long as the public is excluded from all critical decision-making. It’s up to us to eliminate that choke-hold. Already there’s been major progress made at the local and municipal levels of government in the US in just the last 60 years. Before the Iraq invasion had even started local governments had already sent petitions to Washington DC demanding the war not start.. this is one of the first times in American history that’s ever happened! Even the way the snivelers and thugs in Congress have been trying to sneak everything through using Presidential decrees shows they are running in fear and horror of the public. There really are changes happening for the better, and the massive reactions form the scumbag unemployable ‘elites’ shows that they’re running in fear!
July 27th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
How bloody convenient. Barely a Jew mentioned in the entire expose.
Hmmm…
ALL the shareholders of the Federal Reserve System are Jewish-owned and controlled Wall Street banks.
The Bank of England is owned and controlled by the Jewish Rothschilds.
The Bank for International Settlements is owned and controlled by the Jewish Rothschilds.
EVERY central bank in the English dominions is Jewish-owned and controlled, in some cases “secretly.”
Give me a break already.
Mainstream media in Anglo-Saxon land, for the most part, is Jewish-owned and controlled. Reuters, the European equivalent to AP is in fact owned by Rothschilds.
Hollywood is controlled by Jews. Duh!
American foreign policy is steered and controlled by Jews. Just ask the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), the bastards who are leading the push for a war on Iran.
Jews Jews Jews EVERYWHERE.
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is not a fair tale. It is fact and the basis for today’s Globalism.
Damn right there’s an Illuminati. For those in the dark, it’s an alliance between Sabbatean-Frankist Jews and Anglo-Saxon Freemasonry. (Notice how the Jews are listed first.)
All that the college professor has depicted is the Anglo-Saxon faction (Freemasonry). The REAL POWER is entirely JEWISH. Anglo-Saxon Freemasons are nothing more than lowly servant schmucks to do Jewish bidding–they’re a front for the elite Jews.
REMEMBER: whoever issues and controls currency IS government, which in the case of this present World, is Jewish. WHY Ariel Sharon is on record for stating, “We (Jews) control the United States of America!” Damn straight.
Tell Henry Makow of Canada (a Christian Jew) and regular columnist on Rense.com that the Illuminati doesn’t exist and he’ll ROTFLOL. Tell him the City (Wall Street counterpart in London, England) is not Jewish-controlled and doesn’t rule the world and he’ll most likely suggest you check in at the nearest mental hospital.
The fact that Jews run most of the World is a very badly kept secret for those of us who have eyes to see. Furthermore, elite Jews are notorious manipulators and LIARS. Surprise surprise…
Nice try Quigley.
P.S. David Rockefeller’s wealth is reputed to exceed $12 trillion dollars, a paltry figure compared to the Rothschilds who are reputed to be worth more than $150 trillion dollars!!
P.P.S. The British Empire was taken over by the English arm of the Rothschilds, where they got the lion’s share of their start-up cash.
July 27th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Boy they sure took that clip down fast! I knew when I made the Declaration of Magnus Allumanati to the Hawaii Supreme Court in Supreme Court Case No. 27843 that some where out there a group had made a decision to let this one through. After reading this article I understand why. Its like the wizard of OZ. Just a little man behind a curtain manipulating everyone. I am ready to take a step to like Bob Marley go beyond the boundaries and take leadership. Thanks Alex Jones for giving us a place to blow off steam. Your doing a good and correct job. Love to all MCB (MA)
July 27th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Deville is either being willfully ignorant, or extremely deceptive, when claiming that the BGC is just a “fancy camping trip”. Give me a fucking break. And pretending to be shocking, while saying anything about the Grove that’s on the internet is BS makes him full of it!
I knew everything he stated 20+ years ago. This is old news, and sure as Hell isn’t a bomb shell. All he did was write a book report on something he was probably asked to write by a few powerful friends.
Why the Hell do you think it was published by dailykos?
July 27th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Aren’t there any rich elites with a heart that are on our side? Some kid who inherited great wealth and in some religious epiphany grew up to be a modern day Robin Hood? Can’t there be a pool of good people in them that would destroy their cabal?
July 27th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Hillk, give the rest of us in the know a break, the “GROVE” has existed since I think 1879. Get your hea aot of the sand ****please. ARe you that brainwashed my boy???
July 27th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
It is thoroughly disgusting that they have “BRAINWASHED” the American people to the way that you are speaking. Wake up and smell the coffee while you still have a chance KOMRAD. Think about it for a change. Communism is coming to you neighborhood soon Komrad Idiot.
July 27th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
History repeats itself.
July 27th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
I say that someone needs to steal the id of the rich elite, cash in and turn it all back on them.
July 27th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
PROCLAMATION OF SOVEREIGN STANDING IN ALL UNITED STATES COURTS BY MAGNUS ALLUMANATI (MA)
A SOVEREIGN ENTITY
LET IT BE KNOWN TO ALL MEN THAT THIS DAY OCTOBER 21, 2007, THAT IT IS HERE BY PROCLAIMED IN THE HAWAII DISTRICT COURT OF THE THIRD CIRCUIT THAT:
I. BORN FROM THE DERISION OF THE HAWAII COURT SYSTEM CAME MAGNUS ALLUMANATI (MA) A SOVEREIGN ENTITY. THE COURTS DERISION HAS NOW CARRIED THE STATE OF HAWAII INTO DERISION AGAINST THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH, AND AGAINST THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH. THIS ACTION PUTS OUR GOVERNMENT INTO FREE FALL AND SO SETS THE GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE PEOPLE.
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July 27th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Please get this book!! Don’t let the prices on Amazon or other online book sellers discourage you. I found this book at the local used book store for considerably less than any price online. It is too big to read front to back. I recommend using the index or table of contents to find sections that are interesting to you and tackle it slowly. I have come across the passages quoted in the article above and I found them easily just by following my interests. In addition to “pulling back the curtain” this book is an important modern history lesson, very well worth the read.
Please people don’t just listen to Alex Jones, Alan Watt or, any other information source. Go out and get the books that they talk about and study it for your self. And then reason it out for your self, free from any external dialectic.
Great teachers can only show you the path to wisdom you have to walk it alone and then shine the light for others to see the path.
I am a college student and a Veteran (USMC). I have been citing Tragedy and Hope in my papers for summer classes and my grades have shown improvement. So college students go out there and get a book that you won’t sell back. Quote your teacher’s teachers and affect change any way you can.
Knowledge is power.
The next books on the mental forge for me are: The Republic – Plato and Public and Private Papers – Jefferson. If any one has insight on these books please share as they will be the next sharpening blocks for my mind. I am also very interested in the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers but have not had time to purchase these classics yet. Insights??… please shine the light.
In closing:
“You must first understand the system before you can hope to change it and only then can you articulate what it is you want to change.” – Alan Watt (paraphrase)
“Old men told me don’t be bind to deception, only strive for perfection, your mind is a weapon!” – Wu-tang Clan.
WATER THE TREE
July 28th, 2008 at 12:04 am
I see very few posts on this sight of great substance. It is far too late to be spreading hate and nonsense; we need knowledgeable discourse on many subjects vital to humanities survival. Where is the tradition of Letters in today’s society? Who will be the next Cicero, Thoreau or, Douglas. I am not even worthy to stand in the shadow of these men but I will try to restart the great tradition which we now so desperately need. My mind is young and I am only beginning to germinate the seeds of wisdom. All I know is that I don’t know. Any response or discourse on the following letter will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for reading this.
Letter
The intent of this letter is to express to all peoples who truly understand the human, natural and, sovereign rights that American citizens enjoy; especially students, the need for global progress in the area of rights that are afforded to each person by the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Education within the structure is essential in order to effectively change the negative aspects of a system which is believed to have inherent and intrinsic value but contains elements of tyranny and regression.
Students must educate themselves with the intent of progressing human kind and specifically progress toward a global society which excludes no one from the hard won freedoms that the citizens of the United States have won.
No other nations allow people to enjoy the human, natural and, sovereign rights that are provided by the protection of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
If the global society is inevitable and integration is the only possible course for survival then taking a world view and applying it to the rights that Americans have earned is essential.
Make no mistake; we are the leader in this area of progress. Education and actualization in said rights must be self-evident if other countries and their citizens choose to participate in this global system.
The benefits and freedoms that have been hard won over the last three hundred years should be provided to those that choose to participate with us in this time of global integration.
While cultural exchange is essential for progress, participation with those countries, peoples, or entities that choose not to extend these essential freedoms should not take place, for this is detrimental to personal sovereignty and the whole of humanity.
Thank you
WATER THE TREE
July 28th, 2008 at 12:47 am
I have to say this:
To compare the Global Elite to pirates does a huge disservice to pirates.
The Global Elite is about tyrrany.
The first modern democracies were PIRATE CREWS.
NOTHING happened on board ship without a vote by the entire crew. Once the decision was made to pursue a ship, the Captain’s word was law, but only until the battle was over. Pirate crews were mostly made up of men who had grown sick of the harsh discipline and dictatorial command of merchant and naval service.
Furthermore, while the Globalists want free trade for themselves, they don’t want it for us. REAL free trade benefits all. What they seek is the freedom to control our trade themselves. Just like in the golden age of pyracy: we American colonists were forbidden to trade with any but our british overlords.
It was the pyrates of the day that enabled the colonists to buy what the british refused to sell us; or to buy cheaply what the british would only sell dear. This is why Pyrates were welcomed with open arms in most colonial ports.
In the immortal words of pyrate captain Black Sam Bellamy:
“They vilify us, the scoundrels do, when there is only this difference: they rob the poor under cover of law, forsooth, while we plunder the rich under the protection of our own courage….I am a free prince, with as much authority to make war upon the whole world as any with a hundred sail of ship at sea or a hundred thousand men in the field. And this, my conscience tells me…”
So don’t you DARE compare pyrates to the NWO goat-kissing bilge rats! Pyrates symbolize the exact opposite of everything the NWO stands for.
July 28th, 2008 at 12:50 am
This guy is good but he is wrong about the Bohemian Grove. It is a cult or at least occultic in its rituals is you dont wish to call it a cult is definetly occultic. Its obvious and they are conspiring with each other thats obvious to with their meetings. Globalization is a movement but it was put forth by the Bankers who are running the entire operation. They are evil as well. The inner circle that are running the entire thing are evil. They dont believe they are but they are. They worship Lucifer(not Satan, because they believe Lucifer is god) they are doing this globalization and bringing about World Government for the purposes of the Anti-christ. They are setting up his entire system, that the Bible prophecies, and awaiting his arrival. They believe they are doing good because they worship Lucifer.
July 28th, 2008 at 1:40 am
One long ass article!!!!!!!! knowledge: You are a go at this station!!! For modern reading “Body of Secrets” by defense analyst James Bamford subtitle…History of the NSA. At least of what we know but, extremely informative!!! Not boring!!!
July 28th, 2008 at 1:46 am
BEAT the international bankers at their own game……..set your finances free and become debt free!
http://www.becomericher.info
July 28th, 2008 at 1:49 am
Just the idea that there is secrecy shows that they are up to no good and they have a lot to hide.
Remember, two people can keep a secret if one is dead, the omerta is a popular attitude, common in areas of Italy where the Mafia is strong, that implies never collaborating with the police. It can be intended also as a vow of silence among mafiosi.
Then we have another example of secrecy, ODESSA, which stands for the German phrase Organisation der ehemaligen SS-Angehörigen, which in turn translates as “Organization of Former Members of the SS,” is the name given to an international Nazi network alleged to have been set up towards the end of World War II by a group of SS officers in order to prevent their prosecutions for war crimes.
The New World order had ties to the Mafia and the Nazis, if you study assassinations, hostile takeovers, seizing of assets and land or territories, invasions of countries from the inside and outside, plus the element of surprise and how they use their heavy handed force of fear on their victims, then you will begin to see the pattern of the New World Order as it raises it’s ugly head on the the earth, it is “THE BEAST” being released on the physical earthly realm, this is all part of the true contest between good and evil.
God is stronger than all, good will prevail, the forces of light will blind those hiding in places of darkness and cast them down to hell, the souls of the humble will survive because it is gods plan and nothing is stronger than the almighty god and the forces of all that is good.
July 28th, 2008 at 2:09 am
Nicely written…..
BEAT the international bankers at their own game……..
http://www.becomericher.info
July 28th, 2008 at 2:13 am
So which is worse, being a Rhodes Scholar or a Hitler Scholar? Think about it!
–Pol Pot Scholar
July 28th, 2008 at 3:20 am
Tragedy and Hope is available in .pdf format at: archive.org This book should be considered required reading for all.
July 28th, 2008 at 3:42 am
This was a long post that dealt with information about a group of people who supposedly wish to control the world. Even the book mentioned in the article made my head hurt and I have not read it yet. My reading list is quite long, and I have been told by wifey to clean up the stack of books on my side of the bed. I will attempt to find this book and read it and understand what it has to say. Cecil Rhode’s biography, which I have, was a very interesting read. In all eras, new, intelligent and interesting men come forth. He was one of them.
July 28th, 2008 at 4:12 am
its easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God. (heaven) …wow cool…there won’t be many rich people in heaven. Sounds like heaven to me.
July 28th, 2008 at 4:31 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CXPtmvdWDo
Operation Garden Plot – Activated?
As we fast approach total economic collapse what evidence is there that America will be taken into Martial Law? Operation Garden Plot is a declassified document detailing the plan to mobilize US Armed Forces and UN Troops against US Citizens. How much of it is a reality?
July 28th, 2008 at 4:44 am
NoWorries…
As someone who used to be part of the Hollywood system…I can say from first-hand experience that you are EXACTLY right. While over the years some of my best friends have been of the Jewish faith…the fact is that not even THEY realize the depths of international control that is exerted. Rationalizations such as “tradition” and “the chosen people” help them (and “Christians”) to ignore the materialistic, political and economic facts.
While this article may not be perfect…it is light years ahead of anything Kurt (the bullsh*tter) Nimmo has written on this site. And I thank the author for their contribution.
To answer caulbearer who asked:
“Aren’t there any rich elites with a heart that are on our side? Some kid who inherited great wealth and in some religious epiphany grew up to be a modern day Robin Hood?”
That’s in the process of being organized. But what you must understand is that the offspring of elites are just as brainwashed as the middle class. They have to go through the same realization process that you did. It’s not exactly easy to allow yourself to admit that everything you ever believed was a total lie….otherwise EVERYONE WOULD BE DOING IT.
So the short answer is “yes” but don’t expect it to happen right away.
Finally…
I’d like to thank the author for pointing out that THE GOAL OF INFILTRATION OF ACTIVISTS IS …”to provide them with a mouthpiece so that they could “blow off steam…”
NOW…DOES THAT REMIND ANYONE OF A PARTICULAR WEBSITE ????
YOU KNOW…WHERE PEOPLE BLOW OFF STEAM IN COMMENTS.
AND SUPERFICIAL, SHOW DEMONSTRATIONS ARE ORGANIZED.
BUT
NO BOYCOTTS!
NO SIT-INS!
NO DISRUPTION OF COMMERCE!
IS EVER ENGAGED IN.
IF YOU HAPPEN TO THINK OF A SITE THAT FITS THAT DESCRIPTION.
LET ME KNOW!
ROTFLOL
Alex Jones…
The bullhorn icon is the giveaway.
ALEXANDER JONES
The BULL horn
EYE-CON is the giveaway.
July 28th, 2008 at 4:47 am
nwo = occult sekt
need to be dealt with else billions will find dead
nature is dying
world please wake up
July 28th, 2008 at 5:15 am
miss direction,..! i would like if u could show me some fact on alex cia jones, being a tool of/for nwo or what they are called this week?
July 28th, 2008 at 7:48 am
How the New World Order was overthrown in 3 easy steps
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oar8hxZpkXo
July 28th, 2008 at 8:53 am
Good article,
Congrats to the daily KOS for doing it.
But, it’s funny how TocqueDeville feels the need to poo poo nodes of conspiracy like “skull and bones” or “bohemian grove” on the one hand while aknowledging the vast conspiracy of “initiates” on the other.
Great start keep going. Let this article be your gateway.
Try the banned video “Conspiracy of Silence”, that documents ritual abuse of children and implicates the highest level individuals of government and corporations.
And before poo pooing it, investigate the history of skull and bones, where you have an intersection of blue blood elite establishment, training for high level government positions, (CIA, White House, etc.), founded by individuals connected to the drug trade (British East India), involving philosophical roots that were shared with the Nazis’ (Thule society).
July 28th, 2008 at 8:57 am
500.000 coffins in Georgia, and guess what’s also in Georgia, te guidestones.
It seems like it has to do with on and other.
July 28th, 2008 at 9:30 am
Ah, yes, the talented Mr. Rhodes, after which “Rhodesia”, (which is now the terribly troubled, indeed mortally wounded, truly cursed Zimbabwe – perhaps portending America’s and the West’s own futures?) ) was named…Men certainly do come and go, but the earth with her storehouses of wealth (like ZIM) abides & remains (often in badly altered fashion) to be “inherited” by the sometimes unworthy survivors of the prior devastating upheavals. Survivors, NOT victors, because with each devastating war, and with each suceeding holocaust piled upon yet another holocaust , and with each seemingly simple “I don’t see and I don’t hear and I don’t care” attitude human beings are sacrificing more and more of their human-ness, their humanity. In these times, we are certainly witnessing “The Transformation”, but since we are heading so unbelievably rapidly downward it is not “Great”.
July 28th, 2008 at 9:45 am
I can’t take seriously a very wordy article that dismisses Skull and Bones, Bohemian Grove and conspiracy in a couple of sentences, all the while describing in great detail the mechanisms through which the elite have wrested control of politics, media and academia for the purposes of subverting all the governments of the world.
Thanks, TocqueDeville, for the assurances that although the elite really do control everything for their own reasons, and have worked furtively for generations to attain this control, it’s not really a conspiracy.
July 28th, 2008 at 9:56 am
A Fact To Enlighten Morons
Their money has NO VALUE…if you will not accept it or allow it to be of value…their menagerie crumbles to dust! Barter and refuse all currency that is not food, clothing or shelter.
July 28th, 2008 at 9:58 am
News Alert George Bush declares that Hu Jintao’s sperm tastes a lot like his mother’s ass.
July 28th, 2008 at 10:31 am
At least the internet is here for those who care to research how the world really works~
July 28th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Walter Cronkite, isn’t involved in all of this mess that our country is in. Isn’t he a soldier in brain washing the american people.
July 28th, 2008 at 11:38 am
This is long, but good. Maybe someone should plagerize it and use it as a college paper. (To say, as someone here just did, that some ONE thing in particular has not been said or said enough in this article, such as the Bohemian Grove, is ridiculous because there is always more that can said about anything. Anyway, Alex Jones says enough about Bohemian Grove, maybe too much for this poster to make such a comment. Seems like almost being brainwashed thinking that is the most important thing. A shame. Even though Alex does talk way too much about that in my opinion, I am saddened to see that the constant repetition from him has started to brainwash someone here to the point of thinking that that is maybe the most important bit of information not spoken about or enough about.)
Rhonda
July 28th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Miss Direction -
Please explain what a bullhorn icon has to do with anything.
July 28th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
“What is the price-current of an honest man and patriot to-day? They hesitate, and they regret, and sometimes they petition; but they do nothing in earnest and with effect. They will wait, well disposed, for others to remedy the evil, that they may no longer have it to regret. At most, they give only a cheap vote, and a feeble countenance and God-speed, to the right, as it goes by them. There are nine hundred and ninety-nine patrons of virtue to one virtuous man; but it is easier to deal with the real possessor of a thing than with the temporary guardian of it.”
Thoreau – Civil Disobedience
WATER THE TREE
July 28th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
I agree with RC. It seems that TocqueDeville is so worried about this article being labeled as “conspiracy” . But that is only buying into the media strategy of marginalizing those who ask serious questions by labeling them as “conspiracy theorists”. Truth is truth, it doesn’t matter what you call it, and you must ask questions in order to arrive at the truth.
July 28th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
stop grasping for conspiracies, its not a conspiracy it’s common sense. Powerful influential wealthy individuals acting to retain their great power and wealth.. come on . conspiracy? Keep reading up on bohemian grove and skull and bones though, im sure you’ll get somewhere with that..
July 28th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
im sorry /sarcasm off
July 28th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
“No, I make no pretension to patriotism. So long as my voice can be heard on this or the other side of the Atlantic, I will hold up America to the lightning scorn of moral indignation. In doing this, I shall feel myself discharging the duty of a true patriot; for he is a lover of his country who rebukes and does not excuse its sins.”
Douglass – If I Had a Country, I Should be a Patriot
WATER THE TREE
July 28th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
BUT HAVING ALL THAT MONEY DOESNT MAKE THEM BULLETPROOF…..THERE WILL COME A TIME WHEN THE AVERAGE WORKING MAN GETS TIRED OF BEING OPPRESSED, TIRED OF HIS COUNTRY BEING PISSED ON, TIRED OF TYRANNY, AND HE RISES UP A PATRIOT AND HUNTS THE RULING CLASS DOWN LIKE DOGS AND GIVES THEM ALL A 1ST CLASS TICKET TO HELL….
July 28th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Although this article’s dismissal of the Bohemian Grove is quickly dismissed in this article, i think it’s still damage done guys. Think about the people that read the Kos, most of them have never heard of the Grove, and now they’ll probably look into it themselves. We should all be happy about more mainstream articles putting people down the path to truth. I don’t know about most of you guys, but i came into all this from the money and banking end of this global conspiracy, and now i’m reading Jim Marrs and Jordan Maxwell. So be happy guys, our work is paying off!
July 28th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Nihilism, you can’t logically deduce that certain facts of history CANT exist (like the conspiratorial nature of the money masters) just because you would feel uncomfortable for them. You’re sarcastic remarks are meaningless. Carol Quigley admits in the text that these bankers also had their own masters in turn whom he did not know of. Also, these men do not simply wish to preserve their wealth, they have a very specific goal they would like to reach, and they are working hard to achieve that goal. If you have a small cabal of powerful men lying to the masses while secretly furthering their one world government agenda, that’s called conspiracy. Just don’t think when world government comes that we just tripped over ourselves and landed there, this is all BY DESIGN.
July 28th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear.”
Marcus Tullius Cicero – Speech in the Roman Senate
WATER THE TREE
July 28th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Quigley’s book is great. This article does a very good job of bringing 1300 pages of information into focus. Well done. Quigley must have known about the Iron Mountain project when he wrote this. IM was commissioned in 1961-62? by JFK. The conclusions and actions to be taken are being seen in every aspect of politics today. There is a great video at: http://www.documentarywire.com.....or-tyranny that explains it all. It is basically Quigely in action?
July 28th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Pappa Bush said in 1991: If they knew what we were doing they would chase us down and hang us from the light posts”
July 28th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
SEE YOU ALL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS.
THIS IS GOING BE A ROUGH ONE.
REMEMBER.
IF IT ALL GOES TO HELL, CITIES WILL BURN THEN THE POWER IS SURE TO GO OUT.
METALS WILL GO UP 50 TIMES MINIMUM AS THE CURRENCY CRASHES.
COPPER WILL GO UP TO CURRENT SILVER PRICES OF 20 BUCKS AN OZ.
THERE ARE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN COPPER ABOVE OUR HEADS IN POWER LINES.
BRING THEM DOWN AND CUT THEM INTO 1 INCH PIECES AND POUND THEM INTO COINS WITH A HAMMER.
AND THERE YOU GO.
BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF ACTUAL HARD ASSETS DUMPED INTO ECONOMY AS THE PAPER SHRIVELS UP.
COMPANIES WILL CRASH, PEOPLE WILL LOOSE MOST OF THEIR LUXURIES, WE’LL ALL BE REDUCED DOWN TO A SIMPLE COMMON LEVEL.
( I AM ALREADY HERE WAITING FOR YA)
BUT IF WE GROW CROPS IN EVERY YARD AND RAISE AS MANY CHICKENS ,RABBITS AND COWS AS WE CAN.
WE’LL GET BY.
AND GUESS WHAT, IT’LL BE AN INTEREST FREE ECONOMY, WHICH MEANS NO INCOME TAX.
SO INSTEAD OF RIDING THE BUS OVER THE CLIFF, WE JUMP OUT AT THE LAST MOMENT AND JUST START OVER ALL NEW AND FRESH LIKE,
NO TV FOR 6 MONTHS, WILL EXPOSE EVERYONE TO THE TRUTH AS WE SIT AROUND FIRES AT NIGHT AND ACTUALLY TALK TO ONE ANOTHER,
IF WE HANDLE THIS RIGHT, THIS MIGHT EVEN BE A BLESSING, FORCING OUR HAND AT WHICH WE’RE RELUCTANT TO PLAY.
THIS CRASH STUFF, COULD BE A NEW GREATER BEGINNING.
IT’S ALL STAGED AND FAKE, TELL THEM YOU DON’T BELIEVE IT AND CARRY ON AS NORMAL FOR AS LONG AS YOU CAN.
AMERICA ALWAYS GETS KNOCKED ON IT’S ASS, BEFORE THE PEOPLE ARE CONVINCED TO FIGHT, BUT FIGHT WE DO AND WE ALWAYS OVER COME. I EXPECT NO LESS.
SO DON’T FEAR THE CHAOS, WELCOME IT, EMBRACE IT.
July 28th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
the ruling class all lke the rest of us have to die. Thank god for God. We cant blame God on the present situation because we got the government we deserved. Just like the Israelites in the bible we are going to be punished for all the crap we have done-dished out over the last 60 odd years. most of us will die and those who survive have slavery to look forward to. How long will be determined in how long it takes us to go back to god. I think the elite will get a rude awakening eventually as god himself will take them out, as i said we all have to die sometime.
July 28th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
I don’t believe any amount of preparation will matter. When martial law is enacted, anyone remaining in their homes will be dragged out in the middle of the night and sent to FEMA camps; those that fled to the mountains or where ever will be sought out by technology that none of us are probably aware of along with the technology we ARE aware of. Those who are on the run and have guns and ammo, good luck or God be with you; whatever phrase you find acceptable. The choice is either be constantly on the run to the point of exhaustion which will make growing food difficult or be taken away into camps.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
SAM
THATS WHY WE DONT RUN.
WHEN THEY COME, WE RESPOND IN FORCE. WE WILL NEVER BE STRONGER THEN WE WILL BE SECONDS BEFORE YOUR DOOR CRASHES IN, IT’S DOWN HILL FROM THERE.
MAKE YOUR STAND, ALL OF US.
AND THERE WILL BE NO RUNNING TO THE HILLS.
THEY START IT AND WE OPEN A CAN OF WHOOP AZZ AND LET IT FLY.
WE’LL NEVER HAVE A BETTER CHANCE TO WIN, THEN AT THAT TIME.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
A Prayer for Vengeance
1 O LORD God, to whom vengeance belongeth;
O God, to whom vengeance belongeth, show thyself.
2 Lift up thyself, thou judge of the earth:
render a reward to the proud.
3 LORD, how long shall the wicked,
how long shall the wicked triumph?
4 How long shall they utter and speak hard things?
and all the workers of iniquity boast themselves?
5 They break in pieces thy people, O LORD,
and afflict thine heritage.
6 They slay the widow and the stranger,
and murder the fatherless.
7 Yet they say, The LORD shall not see,
neither shall the God of Jacob regard it.
8 Understand, ye brutish among the people:
and ye fools, when will ye be wise?
9 He that planted the ear, shall he not hear?
He that formed the eye, shall he not see?
10 He that chastiseth the heathen, shall not he correct?
He that teacheth man knowledge, shall not he know?
11 The LORD knoweth the thoughts of man,
that they are vanity. 1 Cor. 3.20
12 Blessed is the man whom thou chastenest, O LORD,
and teachest him out of thy law;
13 that thou mayest give him rest from the days of adversity,
until the pit be digged for the wicked.
14 For the LORD will not cast off his people,
neither will he forsake his inheritance.
15 But judgment shall return unto righteousness:
and all the upright in heart shall follow it.
16 Who will rise up for me against the evildoers?
Or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?
17 Unless the LORD had been my help,
my soul had almost dwelt in silence.
18 When I said, My foot slippeth;
thy mercy, O LORD, held me up.
19 In the multitude of my thoughts within me
thy comforts delight my soul.
20 Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee,
which frameth mischief by a law?
21 They gather themselves together against the soul of the righteous,
and condemn the innocent blood.
22 But the LORD is my defense;
and my God is the rock of my refuge.
23 And he shall bring upon them their own iniquity,
and shall cut them off in their own wickedness;
yea, the LORD our God shall cut them off.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
The LORD said unto my Lord,
Sit thou at my right hand,
until I make thine enemies thy footstool. Mt. 22.44 · Mk. 12.36 · Lk. 20.42, 43 · Acts 2.34, 35 · 1 Cor. 15.25 · Eph. 1.20-22 · Col. 3.1 · Heb. 1.13 ; 8.1 ; 10.12, 13
2 The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion:
rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.
3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power,
in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning:
thou hast the dew of thy youth.
4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent,
Thou art a priest for ever
after the order of Melchiz’edek. Heb. 5.6 ; 6.20 ; 7.17, 21
5 The Lord at thy right hand
shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.
6 He shall judge among the heathen,
he shall fill the places with the dead bodies;
he shall wound the heads over many countries.
7 He shall drink of the brook in the way:
therefore shall he lift up the head.
July 28th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
so whats the fucks new de shill, you are about 10,000 years behind times. now tell us what to do about it koshered jew maggot brain.
July 28th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
In Santa Maria and Lompoc, California there is something called TapTv a puplic access channel where anyone from the community can pay a small fee, learn how to make, a tv show and be broadcasted on cable and such. There’s a couple nice TV shows called Free Speech Zone and On Second Thought. These guys are all over Big Brother and the New World Order and the Impeachment Proceedings. Do many cities have this. If so, people need to get on it and spread the word. Also, the Sun in Santa Maria, Ca. and the New Times in SLO, Ca. alwas print letters to the editor and whatever people sent in especially if it is conrovercial. They have a viewership of 40.000 and you can email them. Aren’t there such periodicals in other towns as well who are objective and don’t edit the crap out of everything?
I put Loose Change, Terror Storm, and America: Freedom to Fascism on my myspace thanks to Google Video and I point out they’re available on Netflix.
http://www.myspace.com/antimatreiya
July 28th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
This is a poorly written article.
It states: “How the US Government Was Overthrown In Three Easy Steps”
Yet the article has four “bombshells” and then four other points.
If it was written well, it would have the three steps listed at the top of the article and then expanded out in the article below.
Lame!
July 28th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
there is something beyond mere human greed and power addiction that compels these Rulers to ever greater centralization of power, generation after generation. that would be The Lord, The All-Seeing Eye taught in various forms through the world religions.
July 28th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
how about one easy step.,,,,??? the whole deal is “”DIABOLICAL”"” !!!!!! executive anarchists the whole damned bunch of ‘em!!!!! and Jesus says,,,i come quickly!!!! pray and be watchful,,,,for no one knows the hour ,,,,matthew 24!!
July 28th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
Benjamin Martin,
that’s handy about Jesus coming to straighten everything out. that means WE don’t have to do anything. can you imagine a better way to keep the suckers in line? Horus Saves!
July 28th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
if Jesus wasn’t coming to straighten this shit out, then WE would have to do something.
July 28th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Something is bothering me about this buy gold and precious metal thing. If the economy crashes and the money is worthless, as is often stated in these articles and blogs, then who on earth is going to buy the precious metals you’ve saved? And what are you going to do with your 1 oz gold piece anyway? Buy a cup of coffee or loaf of bread with it?
July 28th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
I think that before Jesus comes, maybe, that the ’sheeple “may wake up and take back their country, that us and our ancestor built with their blood, sweat and tears. I am one who fights back and thank you Alex, and the rest of the aware people who have woken up.
July 28th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
i don’t think the network of initiates would have succeeded without the onslaught of innovations from great scientific thinkers from places like the Royal Society, et al. When you consider the scientific side of things, the context shifts. Until Macchiavelli, all the sciences, including politics and economics, philosophy and ethics, military studies and engineering were grouped together as natural philosophy. Consider this. The “elite” may assign some of their children to politics or philanthropy, science or public relations, computer science or global studies; but the secret is that a unifying vision has driven the greatest minds of this and every age.
think big. find the deep pattern. let your soul grow. THAT is the word becoming flesh.
July 28th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
…and I’m sure the concentration camp guards will thoroughly search all my orifice’s.
July 28th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
you all forgot one important thing what you gonna do when nato ships in military from other countries? its gonna get real nasty.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:00 am
“Horus Saves!”
He also Kills.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:08 am
I agree with some posts here like RC, Hill, coppo (for the quick pirate comparison), sean etc…..
I find this article to be a kind of damage control: “The stuff’s comin out so let’s attempt to deflect it away from the real culprits at the top by saying there’s no conspiracy…just a bunch of third generation inbreeds with trillions of dollars to throw around who have lost the way of the “initiates” without any control from a higher dark power.”
If Bohemian Grove is just a “camping trip” then why is there someone rotting in a prison in Wasco, CA (who was almost beaten to death) for filming inside the Grove?
This article reeks of psyop. However one poster made a good point by saying that at least the subject is getting a little mainstream exposure which may work to our advantage.
Regarding the many off topic posts I enjoy ignoring them.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:22 am
I am the author of this essay.
I would like it known that I resent any association with this website or Alex Jones, who I believe to be a charlatan out to make a buck, a crackpot, and a destructive force in our quest to understand the powers shaping modern civilization and manipulating democracy for their own ends.
By trying to sell a product, namely the idea of some cult-like, monolithic Illuminati who pulls the strings of the world, presumably from some dark mahogany room, he discredits real research into the global elite, their agenda, and their methods of influence.
The disdain for empirical evidence, substituted with fantasy, renders the conspiracy theory community impotent to mobilize against the real powers that are shaping the world.
It also makes investigation of real conspiracies all the more difficult to gain traction. There is indeed a secret government, as Bill Moyers called it, which operates in the dark and beyond the reach of our democratic institutions. And crackpots such as Alex Jones are its best cover.
There are serious people attempting to shine light on the workings of the global elite and their instruments in intelligence, defence and the media. Alex Jones is not one of them. These people are passionate about their cause. They do not peddle it off like a bar of soap.
Believing in some cabal in dark robes with untold power is for lazy minds. I have spent years digging through documents and tedious history books such as Dr. Quigley’s in an attempt to understand how the world works. And I can assure it is not so simple.
There are many interests and many players. Sometimes these interests align. Sometime they are opposed. And none of them have absolute power. And while their power is far beyond what is acceptable in democratic societies, and they use the most devious, subversive methods for exercising that power, they can be defeated. Look no further than Venezuela for evidence of this.
Social democracy is the antidote to plutocratic rule. And the power of the people begins with knowledge.
But for true knowledge to obtain, a strict adherence to empirical fact is critical. Careful sourcing, unimpeachable witnesses, documentary evidence. There is no easy way. It takes work, and a disciplined mind. And because our enemies are great, we must have higher standards than the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal.
Our country has been conquered, but we can still take it back. But not by associating with crackpots who have no regard for the burden of proof. The greatest challenge I have encountered in trying to raise awareness about the global elites is overcoming the tendency of most ordinary people to associate such issues with crackpots like Alex Jones. Part of this tendency is the result of a long running propaganda campaign to cast those who ask too many questions as “conspiracy theorists”. But every time someone like Alex Jones makes some outlandish claim–like that Bohemian Grove is a cult which anyone who’s ever been knows is a joke–branding those who ask too many questions as nutjobs becomes easier.
Stop feeding your fantasies with nonsense you would never be able to prove even if it were true. And start feeding you mind with provable facts. Never believe what you read on the internet without verifying sources and always question how someone telling you something can prove what they’re telling you. Especially if they’re wanting you to pay for it.
There are some who will believe in any conspiracy theory they encounter. And there are others who will deny any conspiracy, no matter what the evidence. Both are equally ridiculous.
Don’t be ridiculous.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:24 am
65 MarkMark the hairlip dog Says:
July 28th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Something is bothering me about this buy gold and precious metal thing. If the economy crashes and the money is worthless, as is often stated in these articles and blogs, then who on earth is going to buy the precious metals you’ve saved? And what are you going to do with your 1 oz gold piece anyway? Buy a cup of coffee or loaf of bread with it?
————- It’s like this…
Money will not be worthless. You’ll just need an awful lot of it to buy the necessities of life when the Treasury Department and Fed begin hyper-inflating the money supply in earnest to monetize unserviceable public debt.
Therefore, if gold is artificially suppressed at $930 or so today, count on a price rise to about $3,500-5,000 in the foreseeable future, its true value range. Then add zeros for hyper-inflation.
(There’s ALWAYS a market around the world for REAL money that hedges inflation PERFECTLY.)
Okay. So you decide to play is “safe” and leave $930 in the bank because you don’t know any better while John Smith takes his $930 and buys one ounce of gold. Gold goes to $5,000 after bond and equity markets totally collapse. Result. You have $930, John has $5,000. Oh, but wait. Those markets crashed because the banking sector was hit hard by massive write-downs and withdrawals, killing hundreds of them, both big and small. To make matters worst, the Government had no option other than monetize public debt, leading to hyper-inflation. You were lucky. Your bank survived, leaving your $930 intact. However, John was luckier still. Hyper-inflation pushed his gold to $5,000,000!
Now the bad news. Gold went up 1,000 times. But you know what? So did everything else. Whereas gasoline sold for $4 a gallon, it now sells for $4,000. John can still drive. You, on the other hand, are screwed big time.
Oh, but there’s much more to the story.
Unemployment has hit 35% and the inventory of foreclosed properties is over 20,000,000 units nation-wide. Problem, many of these have reverted back to municipalities because the lenders no longer exist and/or are unable to pay the annual ground rent (municipal property taxes). However, the municipalities don’t want the properties. They just want the ground rent to pay municipal bills. Result: auction auction everywhere, everyday to the highest bidder. Too bad you’ve just got $930 to bid. Oh wait. You don’t! You bought two boxes of cheese macaroni to feed your family. You have NOTHING left whereas John, on the other hand, still has nearly $$,000,000 left. Now there are many people who have $100,000 of protected FDIC money, but they never bought gold or silver. So you know what? John gets the pick of the litter. Heck, he can probably buy 40 or more houses and charge cheap RENT to shortsighted working poor people. When the economy rebounds, John is a multi-millionaire. You, on the other hand, are DIRT POOR, if not dead from malnutrition and/or starvation.
Moral: John can own his neighbors for less than $930 today. Kinda awesome, ain’t it?
I forgot.
It gets better for John. You see, John’s a really smart guy. He not only ends up buying 40 houses and renting them out super cheap (because he can; they’re paid for in full), he also takes out a line of credit on some of the properties just before the economic recovery and buys hoards of blue chip stock at 5 to 10 cents on the dollar!
One more thing. John didn’t buy one ounce of gold. He liquidated his entire 401Ks prior to the meltdown and bought 100 ounces of gold. So you see, after blowing the $5,000,000 on the homes and stocks, John still has $495,000,000 (99 ounces of gold x $5,000,000) to spend. As for gas, John doesn’t give a shit. You see, he placed many solar panels on the roof of his main abode to generate all the electricity he needs to keep warm and cool in the summer and winter and run all his household appliances. What’s more, there’s enough energy from the solar panels to recharge his electric car every night.
Is John BRILLIANT or what?
Get it?
July 29th, 2008 at 4:41 am
Tocque Deville,
I’ve really had with you. You’re either an imbecile or a disinformation agent.
Straight out:
IT’S THE (ELITE) JEWS STUPID!!!
For everyone’s benefit, including yours, I repost an earlier write-up of mine on this thread.
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NoWorries Says:
July 27th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
How bloody convenient. Barely a Jew mentioned in the entire expose.
Hmmm…
ALL the shareholders of the Federal Reserve System are Jewish-owned and controlled Wall Street banks.
The Bank of England is owned and controlled by the Jewish Rothschilds.
The Bank for International Settlements is owned and controlled by the Jewish Rothschilds.
EVERY central bank in the English dominions is Jewish-owned and controlled, in some cases “secretly.”
Give me a break already.
Mainstream media in Anglo-Saxon land, for the most part, is Jewish-owned and controlled. Reuters, the European equivalent to AP is in fact owned by Rothschilds.
Hollywood is controlled by Jews. Duh!
American foreign policy is steered and controlled by Jews. Just ask the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), the bastards who are leading the push for a war on Iran.
Jews Jews Jews EVERYWHERE.
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is not a fair tale. It is fact and the basis for today’s Globalism.
Damn right there’s an Illuminati. For those in the dark, it’s an alliance between Sabbatean-Frankist Jews and Anglo-Saxon Freemasonry. (Notice how the Jews are listed first.)
All that the college professor has depicted is the Anglo-Saxon faction (Freemasonry). The REAL POWER is entirely JEWISH. Anglo-Saxon Freemasons are nothing more than lowly servant schmucks to do Jewish bidding–they’re a front for the elite Jews.
REMEMBER: whoever issues and controls currency IS government, which in the case of this present World, is Jewish. WHY Ariel Sharon is on record for stating, “We (Jews) control the United States of America!” Damn straight.
Tell Henry Makow of Canada (a Christian Jew) and regular columnist on Rense.com that the Illuminati doesn’t exist and he’ll ROTFLOL. Tell him the City (Wall Street counterpart in London, England) is not Jewish-controlled and doesn’t rule the world and he’ll most likely suggest you check in at the nearest mental hospital.
The fact that Jews run most of the World is a very badly kept secret for those of us who have eyes to see. Furthermore, elite Jews are notorious manipulators and LIARS. Surprise surprise…
Nice try Quigley.
P.S. David Rockefeller’s wealth is reputed to exceed $12 trillion dollars, a paltry figure compared to the Rothschilds who are reputed to be worth more than $150 trillion dollars!!
P.P.S. The British Empire was taken over by the English arm of the Rothschilds, where they got the lion’s share of their start-up cash.
July 29th, 2008 at 6:55 am
Prophets of Doom always with us
Times Colonist
Sunday, July 27, 2008
Ever since Thomas Malthus predicted mass starvation for our species more than 200 years ago, doomsday scenarios have come and gone with regularity. The 20th century was full of them.
In 1910, it was feared the arrival of Halley’s comet would bathe the world in a cloud of cyanide. There were publications announcing “End of the world, May 18.” An enterprising company even sold “comet pills” to ward off the poison gas.
By 1950, TV evangelist Billy Graham had his own prediction for the end of the world. “We may have another year, maybe two years. Then I believe it is going to be over,” he lamented.
It actually was all over in 1978, for more than 900 followers of cult leader Jim Jones. They committed suicide, apparently in the belief a nuclear Armageddon was at hand.
Of course, all these predictions, and scores more like them, had one thing in common. They were all wrong.
But forewarned, apparently, is not forearmed. Scary stories are as popular today as they ever were. And surprisingly, the leading culprits are scientists. Here are three doomsday scenarios making the rounds in scholarly circles.
First, there’s “The Black Hole That Ate Planet Earth.” A worried group of physicists is warning about the massive atom smasher ready to begin operations in Geneva. The Large Hadron Collider, as it’s known, is meant to allow experiments that would throw light on the Big Bang. But there are fears it might actually create one.
The particle beams fired by the machine collide with the energy of a 400-tonne train doing 180 km/h. It’s theoretically possible this could create a black hole that would swallow the planet.
An organization called the Lifeboat Foundation is so alarmed, it’s proposing an immediate program to set up human colonies on other planets before it’s too late. No word how that would be done.
Then there’s the “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner” scenario. For several decades, scientists employed in the Search for Extraterrestrial Life (SETI) have been looking for intelligent life in the universe. They use radio telescopes to listen for signals.
But so far they’ve come up empty, and frustration is setting in. That’s led a group of mavericks to take matters in their own hands. They’ve created a beacon that directs high energy pulses into space. The idea is that an alien civilization will hear the signal and respond.
But more timid SETI members are lighting their lab coats on fire in response. What if whoever hears the message takes a dim view of it as intergalactic spam? What if they think humans are merely snack food?
Angry letters have been written and resignations offered. Meantime, the offending beacon flashes away, either a testament to our curiosity, or an invitation to a banquet at which we’re the main course, depending on your point of view.
Finally, there’s the perennial doomsday favourite, “Close Encounters With an Asteroid.” There have been several occasions in the last few years when asteroids of the dinosaur-killing variety flew by at moderately close range.
That’s unnerved astronomers, who point out that one of these days, we might not be so lucky. For a modest budget increase, they assure us, they can say with precision when our last moment will come.
How that knowledge would help isn’t clear. Until the technology exists to divert an incoming rock the size of Gibraltar, ignorance seems preferable.
In case that’s less than comforting, though, the chances of a major asteroid collision in the next 100 years are half a million to one. And the odds of being swallowed by a black hole or scarfed by an alien are somewhere in the vicinity of zero.
Of course that won’t stop the doomsayers. Have you heard about those super-intelligent computers that are poised to take over the world?
© Times Colonist (Victoria) 2008
http://www.canada.com/victoria.....2e790e1450
July 29th, 2008 at 6:59 am
Prophets of Doom always with us
Times Colonist
Sunday, July 27, 2008
Ever since Thomas Malthus predicted mass starvation for our species more than 200 years ago, doomsday scenarios have come and gone with regularity. The 20th century was full of them.
In 1910, it was feared the arrival of Halley’s comet would bathe the world in a cloud of cyanide. There were publications announcing “End of the world, May 18.” An enterprising company even sold “comet pills” to ward off the poison gas.
By 1950, TV evangelist Billy Graham had his own prediction for the end of the world. “We may have another year, maybe two years. Then I believe it is going to be over,” he lamented.
It actually was all over in 1978, for more than 900 followers of cult leader Jim Jones. They committed suicide, apparently in the belief a nuclear Armageddon was at hand.
Of course, all these predictions, and scores more like them, had one thing in common. They were all wrong.
But forewarned, apparently, is not forearmed. Scary stories are as popular today as they ever were. And surprisingly, the leading culprits are scientists. Here are three doomsday scenarios making the rounds in scholarly circles.
First, there’s “The Black Hole That Ate Planet Earth.” A worried group of physicists is warning about the massive atom smasher ready to begin operations in Geneva. The Large Hadron Collider, as it’s known, is meant to allow experiments that would throw light on the Big Bang. But there are fears it might actually create one.
The particle beams fired by the machine collide with the energy of a 400-tonne train doing 180 km/h. It’s theoretically possible this could create a black hole that would swallow the planet.
An organization called the Lifeboat Foundation is so alarmed, it’s proposing an immediate program to set up human colonies on other planets before it’s too late. No word how that would be done.
Then there’s the “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner” scenario. For several decades, scientists employed in the Search for Extraterrestrial Life (SETI) have been looking for intelligent life in the universe. They use radio telescopes to listen for signals.
But so far they’ve come up empty, and frustration is setting in. That’s led a group of mavericks to take matters in their own hands. They’ve created a beacon that directs high energy pulses into space. The idea is that an alien civilization will hear the signal and respond.
But more timid SETI members are lighting their lab coats on fire in response. What if whoever hears the message takes a dim view of it as intergalactic spam? What if they think humans are merely snack food?
Angry letters have been written and resignations offered. Meantime, the offending beacon flashes away, either a testament to our curiosity, or an invitation to a banquet at which we’re the main course, depending on your point of view.
Finally, there’s the perennial doomsday favourite, “Close Encounters With an Asteroid.” There have been several occasions in the last few years when asteroids of the dinosaur-killing variety flew by at moderately close range.
That’s unnerved astronomers, who point out that one of these days, we might not be so lucky. For a modest budget increase, they assure us, they can say with precision when our last moment will come.
How that knowledge would help isn’t clear. Until the technology exists to divert an incoming rock the size of Gibraltar, ignorance seems preferable.
In case that’s less than comforting, though, the chances of a major asteroid collision in the next 100 years are half a million to one. And the odds of being swallowed by a black hole or scarfed by an alien are somewhere in the vicinity of zero.
Of course that won’t stop the doomsayers. Have you heard about those super-intelligent computers that are poised to take over the world?
© Times Colonist (Victoria) 2008
http://www.canada.com/victoria.....2e790e1450
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July 29th, 2008 at 7:04 am
Epitath Seen On A Tomb Stone:
“All Time is No Time, When Time is Past”
Epitath of an Economy:
All Cash is No Cash, When Cash Has Crashed !!!
The Bottom Line Fact:
No One Takes Not Even 1 Thin Dime With Them From This World !!!
STOP WORRYING – JUST LIVE – WHILE YOU ARE ALIVE !!!
July 29th, 2008 at 8:32 am
Ronnie hit it on the head. This is blatant disinformation. The little catch phrases “even if it were true”.
What the hell does that mean? Nothing. Its vacant. And yet somehow he knows what a “real conspiracy” is. He’s the anointed one. All he does is quote what some guy wrote in the ’60s, like we don’t already know this shit. Talk about ridiculous. Tocque you are an ass.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
I’ve been through this many times. The elite push war, the economy , racial tensions , tyranny , and destruction of the family as far as they dare. Then they back off. People, relieved that they are getting their
status of life back, do not realize the damage done. They put laws and executive orders in place that they don’t use, for now . Corporations are destroyed and taken over by loyal people . While the average guy is
told it is restructuring to strengthen the economy . I myself have had to retrain 6 times ( line mechanic , steelworker, sales, medical 3 different fields) . I didn’t quit these jobs ,they left me.
My point is this . We are seeing news stories that oil is coming down , the trans-corridor highway is not going to be built, the north American union is dead , the war in Iraq is winding down , ect , ect . DON’T BELIEVE
IT!! Remember in an hour , this can all come back with a vengeance . If they seem to be backing down , it is because they have achieved their goals , for now . I know and have a great heart for those wanting to defeat the elite . But, these people are not scared of us in any way . Maybe because the power and weaponry is so far from what we even know. Or , because their mindset is completely psychopathic . It doesn’t matter. Stay in this crisis, aware mode no matter what happens . Because they will come at us again
and every time it is more intense and deadly . They will implode our economy. They have to . All it will take
is a catastrophic event (real or faked) to bring us right into martial law . We are at a point where even the
brain dead sheeple are starting to notice . This why they are backing down . The last thing they want is for everyone to unite. So we have to be even more determined than ever before.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
I find the idea of some super-elite cult to which every member of the ruling class belongs and in which Jews are forefront ridiculous.
Now, if a person joins a cult, does that religion not replace any previously-held religious belief? Am I still a member of the Catholic Cult if I join the Satanic Cult? Of course not. The only proof I’ve ever seen of the Illuminati is people freaking out about it on infowars.com, so I doubt it even exists.
And does it matter if it’s a cult or not? What really matters is that our government, media, schools, and financial institutions are no longer under our control, and are being used against us in a centuries-old plan to demolish democracy and place and global feudal oligarchy in its stead.
Stop running around with your thumbs up your asses screaming about cults and focus on the real problem and how to deal with it.
Hell, get off your damn computer and at least go outside.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
theres no illuminati conspiracy? THATS THE STUPIDIST THING i’VE READ IN THIS ARTICLE, couldn’t agree more with what Arnold who says that he is telling us something we already know and all he does is quote someone from the 60’s, is this TOCque one of them sheeps of the NWO?, open your mind man all you’ll end up like the brainwash sheeple. I mean the quotes are useful info, but the assesment by Tocque are hilarious.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Joe reducing them to a secular (non-religious) group, will not increase the chance of defeating them. Whether they believe their source is satan , lucifer, or gorg from the planet whatever. There is a distinct belief
that they have a right to all of the world and everything in it. They are the ones who use repetitive symbols and thoughts that make them seem as one group . I would ask you to google ( vril, and the vril ) . I think you may see just how lunatic these people really are . Also even if their beliefs are totally made up , it unifies them. No one could amass this much control and power without a deep central belief . Check into quotes George Washington and other founding fathers said about the illuminatti . I think you will be surprised.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Whether this is right or wrong, you are a conspiracy theorist, face it.
July 29th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
#81 Joe,
Excuse me? No Illuminati? Okaaaay…
Joe, you just might want to look up Freemasonry. In fact, it might surprise you to find out that there actually is a lodge withiin the British Parliament buildings in London, England to boot!
There are 33 degrees in Freemasonry. However, most Freemasons aren’t aware that there are 13 degrees above that reserved for top dogs, i.e. European royalty, global financiers, etc. The latter group behave as though they’re god (they’re the Illuminati). Their chief emblem: a peculiar looking 13 step pyramid with an eye at the top. It’s on the back over every US one dollar bill (key owners of the Fed are Illuminati).
The Illuminati is very real. Some, like Henry Kissinger, are atheists while others practice occult practices. They’re not all occultist. Some, in fact, are forced into membership; in other words, they don’t want to be there!
The bottom feeders, the Freemasons, for the most part are clueless as to the actual practices of the governing body (Illuminati), though it is said by the time you achieve the 32nd degree, you know full well what’s going on.
Like these guys or not, one thing is sure: they are VERY clever. They hide behind “benevolent” foundations and charities, which are nothing more than fronts.
Ya, this animal is real alright.
Again, the Illuminati is an alliance between Sabbatean-Frankist JEWS and Anglo-Saxon FREEMASONRY. However, that stated, it is in fact elite Jews who control the entire organization. Case in point: there are Freemasonry lodges where all Jewish and non-Jewish members may attend, the majority of them. However, there are Freemasonry lodges where ONLY Jewish members may attend. Now how is that? Simple, it’s a Jewish controlled organization!
What ethnic group do the top Illuminati international bankers belong to? Why the Jews! Specifically those of the Ashkenazi or Khazars, who are in fact GENTILES!
Fact: most people who call themselves Jews aren’t!!
From personal experience, I remember talking to a “Jewish” customer, a fairly well to do one. We were discussing Israel and religion. In fact, I was educating the lady on who the descendants of the tribe of Joseph actually are in the End Time, that is, the nation and company of nations mentioned in Genesis: Britain and America, along with the Assyrians (Germans and Austrians), the people who invaded the Kingdom of Israel approximately 2,700 years ago and took a remnant of our ancestors captive. During the conversation, I brought up the Illuminati. She knew right away who that was. In fact she nodded in a disapproving fashion during her acknowledgement. Top Jews know who the Illuminati are. They should! It’s an elite Jewish controlled organization.
Look up Rothschild and Illuminati. You will find out that the House of Rothschild are in fact the founders of the organization. They should. They’re the ones who funded it. And who are the top dogs in the Illuminati today??? Why none other Jewish international bankers. And the top of the top of these??? Why none other than the House of Rothschild!!!
WAKE UP FROM YOUR STUPOR!
P.S. That is the thing with the Illuminati. The Organization is not at all worried about Americans, as a whole, finding out who they are because what they are and do is sooooo far from the minds of most ordinary people that it is INCREDULOUS.
P.P.S.
1. DNA is PROOF of prior planning, engineering, programming and TOTAL control by an all-knowing, almighty God. To deny this is nothing more than an admission of EXTREME spiritual dumbness on your part.
2. EVERYTHING that was, is and is to be, collectively, perceived or otherwise by SUBSET life forms is the System known as GOD. WHY it is written in the New Testament, “We (humans) have are being and movement in Him (the System).”
3. The System is an integral part of a Divine Family, a Father and Son.
4. Humanity is patterned after the Divine Family.
5. The New Testaments states, “Jesus Christ, the Firstborn among MANY brethren.” The ultimate destiny of saved humans is to be inducted in that Family! WHY it states in the New Testament, “We (true Christians) will inherit ALL THINGS with Jesus Christ.” Also, “We do not see all things put undo him (mankind).”
6. Most of what people call Christianity is FALSE. In fact, when you know what I do, it’s an outright sick joke.
7. Purebred Hebrews are purebred Caucasians. That doesn’t mean most Caucasians are Hebrew, but about a quarter of them are!
8. The Caucasian race is the default race (starting point). The Divine Family have caucasian features.
9. When the Roman soldiers came for Jesus, they could not tell him apart from all other Jews. They needed the assistance of Judas to identify him! This is also why the Bible states, “Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and forever.” That statement is implicit of his racial makeup.
10. Mary is a surrogate mother. That is, God implanted both the ovum and sperm that became Jesus Christ. In other words, Jesus did not have any imperfect DNA from her whatsoever. In reality, Mary is NOT the mother of Christ as the great false church preaches (Roman Catholic Church).
11. The Romans STOLE Christianity, moved it to Rome, formed the Universal False Church (Roman Catholic Church), removed and added false teachings, including idolatry, and palmed the whole thing off as ligit to unsuspected Roman citizenry and the World at large. WHY the Illuminati believes ALL Christianity is false. But they’re wrong BIG TIME on the “ALL” part.
12. The LION’S share of Hebrews in the End Time (our time) reside in Anglo-Saxon Land. The World, including most of white people in Anglo-Saxon Land, plus their non-white offsprings, suppose them to be gentiles, but that is not the case!
13. Most of the people who call themselves Jews are not so! They are gentiles descendant from old Khazaria, south of Russia.
14. Revelation 12:9 tells that most people are deceived. This IS TRUE!! Deceived is when you don’t know that you don’t know. In fact, you think you do, but in reality, you really DON’T.
15. The Illuminati is the organization where the BEAST, mentioned in Revelation, stems from.
16. The United States of America and Britain will be DESTROYED. God is behind it. (It’s payback and corrective punishment for foresaking the System. Just look at the condition of our society at large today to see why.)
17. The AWESOMELY spiritually foolish Rothschilds will be displaced by the individual known as the Beast in Revelation. The Beast will kill many of them and steal ALL of their wealth for himself!!! (Talking about a bunch of goofballs.)
18. The Beast, False Prophet and Two Witnesses are alive as I write.
19. Not all the Hebrews will be destroyed in the End Time. Those that reside in the Land of the North will escape. This is where the Two Witnesses will come from. Guess which nation it is??? Clue: most of the End Time Hebrews live in North America.
Jeremiah 23:7-8
7 They (people in general) shall no longer say the Lord who brought the children of Israel forth from Egypt;
8 But the Lord who brought the children of Israel from the Land of the North and all countries whether I have scattered them.
When Hebrews are “scattered,” they are under captivity (slavery in foreign lands). Those in the Land of the North are not slaves.
Comment: one of the Last Plagues God dishes out is making the Sun seven times hotter. This doesn’t mean the Earth will be seven times hotter, but it does mean agriculture will be unsustainable in virtually all parts of the world, except in the upper (north) and lower (south) extremities. WHY the Place of Safety is in the Land of the North, which incidentally, is not Russia nor northern Europe!!!
19. The North American Union will not be long-lasting if it succeeds, but not for reasons most of you think.
20. There is a duality throughout the Bible. A first type followed by a more substantial second fulfillment. The Two Witnesses are the End Time equivalent to Moses (government) and Aaron (religion). Contrast this with the Beast (government) and False Prophet (religion). The former will overcome the latter. They will control the Land of the North, which will go on to be the mightiest nation in the Millennium. This Land of the North will (and in fact actually has right now) a remnant of all nations in the world for safekeeping and RE-EDUCATION. It will act as the End Time Ark as God destroys most of the rest of the world (a clean up exercise). There will come a time in the Land of the North (when the Two Witnesses take over), that all the citizens thereof will have to embrace TRUE Christianity or face DESTRUCTION by plague, just like the Beast and False prophet will do with the rest of the World with their false teachings.
That is all that I’m going to reveal at this point, except suffice to say the Illuminati will be DESTROYED completely, but not by the hand of men. Also, the Beast will have ABSOLUTELY no power over the Two Witnesses until the very last three days. And then… WATCH OUT!!! Bye Bye Satan and all your contemptible followers.
The biggest problem with America is its most of its Christian organizations and false ministers. The second problem is the Illuminati. The third problem, government. In that order.
THE BIBLE IS A CODED BOOK. IT IS NOT WRITTEN TO BE UNDERSTOOD BY MOST. IN FACT, IT STATES THAT THE WICKED, PARTICULARLY THE ILLUMINATI, WILL NOT UNDERSTAND AND WILL CONTINUE TO DECEIVE AND BE DECEIVED THEMSELVES, BUT THE WISE (RIGHTEOUS) WILL UNDERSTAND.
July 29th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
WHERE IS MY COMMENT. SCARDY CAT OF JEW SHITS. WE GONANA FIGHT,FIGHT,FIGHT, BUT WE ARN’T GOING TO TALK ROCKERSHIT HEAD JEWS.
July 29th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
just accept that the govshit was overthrown, because i want to see all you shit heads in concentration camps to make our job easier. die and go to heaven. and be rid of you all .
July 31st, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Titles vs. possession…