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Homeland Ministry Official: Real ID for Cold Medicine
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Dan Goodin
The Register
February 5, 2008
A senior US Department of Homeland Security official has floated the idea of requiring citizens to produce federally compliant identification before purchasing some over-the-counter medicines.
"If you have a good ID … you make it much harder for the meth labs to function in this country," DHS Assistant Secretary for Policy Stewart Baker told an audience last month at the Heritage Foundation. Cold medicines like Sudafed have long been used in the production of methamphetamine. Over the past year or so, pharmacies have been required to track buyers of drugs that contain pseudoephedrine.
His comment came five days after the agency released final rules implementing the REAL ID Act of 2005 that made no mention of such requirements. It mandates the establishment uniform standards and procedures that must be met before state-issued licenses can be accepted as identification for official purposes.
Beyond boarding airplanes and entering federal buildings or nuclear facilities, there are no other official purposes spelled out in the regulations. And that’s just what concerns people at the Center for Democracy and Technology. They say Baker’s statement underscores "mission creep," in which the scope and purpose of the REAL ID Act gradually expands over time.
"Baker’s suggested mission creep pushes the REAL ID program farther down the slippery slope toward a true national ID card," CDT blogger Greg Burnett wrote here. He says requiring people to produce a federally approved ID to buy cold medicine is a good example of the "significant ramifications" attached to the act.
So far, 17 states have formally opposed REAL ID, which takes effect on May 11. Residents of those states will be subject to additional searches and other inconveniences when flying and may be barred from entering federal buildings and nuclear plants.
Baker’s statement belying the official DHS position on REAL ID isn’t the first time the agency has made confusing remarks about the legal requirements surrounding identification. According to travel writer Edward Hasbrouck, DHS officials continue to plant the misunderstanding that residents from states which don’t comply with REAL ID requirements won’t get on planes. They will, Hasbrouck asserts here. In fact, he says, airlines are prevented by law from requiring any kind of ID.
Nonetheless, the DHS website continues to claim a photo ID is needed to pass through security checkpoints. Hasbrouck has his suspicions about the motives for such statements.
"The most obvious explanation is that they want to use the implied (but legally and factually empty) threat of denial of air travel to intimidate states into ‘voluntarily’ complying with the Real-ID Act and its rules," he writes.
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February 6th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
But of course the CIA will continue to ship in the illegal narcotics. Just like the dictators of old and new, from Nero to Stalin to Hitler to Bush and Blair. They created the crises, and then they create the phony solutions which do nothing but strip away our freedoms.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
if they use these REAL ID cards, they can count on me not being an active member in society anymore. I’ll barter with people to get what i need to survive… and if they wanna beat me up and make me have one, i’ll just leave it somewhere all the time- and they can constantly have to deal with me being forgetful. FVCK the NWO-
February 6th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
patrick..is it going to take an id card for you to do that
man i dropped out the day bush got in…
February 6th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
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February 6th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Here in Pa we are fighting to stop REAL ID,Aaron Bolinger fresh from a victory in SC has been up here since about June,we are making progress,I am involved with him fighting the NAIS or National Animal ID System,YES an animal REAL ID,basicly put out by Monsanto & co,to destroy your right to own livestock (without agribiz getting paid by folks who own livestock,even one chicken!,(socialist bast#$%) We have activists in a growing number of states, interested? Give Aaron a line at discipleaaron@hotmail.com,tell ‘em Reb sent you! Help us kick DHS in the face and recover our liberty!
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Yeah im basicly new with all this but since listening to AJ, im an Ron Paul reLovelutionist and voted here in il for the primaries, and most of my family. this whole id thing scares the bejesus out of me and i will refuse it, even if it means my job. anyhow, how can someone make this seem fair when the only thing this does is track us regular citizens. as for our intervention elsewhere, im 28 , but in middle school i do remember something called the Monroe Doctrine where we trade with other countries but are not entangled by miltary alliances. just a thought.
February 7th, 2008 at 9:34 am
The REAL ID ACT requirements have been extended. Compliance will be forced in 2011, not May 2008, which was the original date.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_id
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I want to know what law there is that states ID is NOT required to fly abd where is states that it is against the law for airlines to ask. I want a copy of it to go for a trip and test it.
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March 10th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
i went to the doctor for some anti anxiety pills. The bitch perscribed me Abilify….
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March 14th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
Why do I have to give my email address if it ‘will not be published’ if this is indeed a free speech zone? I guess even here you don’t have the right to say what needs to be said?? Goodbye first amendment, goodbye false impression. I wouldn’t mind being published(for free),but I don’t like the idea that what I’m saying just may be censored. Ridiculous! Email me sometime Alex,don’t be a stranger!
March 14th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
I know people who are gonna take the real ID, thinking they’ll jump off when it goes as far as getting a chip.
I’ve already jumped off. I don’t even use the discount cards at the grocery store.
I’ll have no part of any ID other than what I got.
March 14th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
I was sick awhile back and went to buy some cold meds. The self-check window told me to show ID to a clerk, which I refused to do. When she came for my ID I said, nope, I’m not showing it.
I got the meds anyway.
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April 14th, 2008 at 8:12 am
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April 14th, 2008 at 8:20 am
Well it shows you have fallen right into the elite agenda. Who do you think wrote the Bible? They’ve spent thousands of years perfecting this brainwashing. Do your own research. I have my own beliefs. My main belief is love for all mankind.
April 14th, 2008 at 8:27 am
Donna, you don’t know what love is, you can’t know true love without knowing the Lord Jesus Christ. Also, the Bible exposes the plan of the elite, they did not write it. The Bible is God’s Book, it tells the future and the elete have to follow what it says they are going to do.
April 14th, 2008 at 8:37 am
The bloody elite (Illuminati) knew what they wanted and patiently contrived everything that is coming to pass just so weak people will say see it is written so it must be and then when their fake Anti-Christ arrives weak people will say see it is written so it must be. And when there will be no rapture people will wake up and realize they have been lied to big time. I’ve read the Bible. I attended Bible study almost every night but when I saw hatred and intolerance being taught I took it upon myself to study what is really going on and learned we have all been conned.
BTW…How many “Jesus’” have there already been? Research…Research….Research. I don’t listen to nobody anymore before studying it and making up my own mind!
April 14th, 2008 at 8:38 am
If the elite wrote the bible why is it that every thing in there is against the elite. that makes as much sense as saying Charles Manson built maximum security prisons to incarcerate himself. When its all said and done the elite will burn in a devils hell. all through out the bible the elite lose.
April 14th, 2008 at 8:50 am
bigmama101…You are so right. The elite loses everytime. Just like a movie where the good guy always wins. They form this false hope in you. IMO..If you read the Bible or any religious book or text you will fall for the biggest scam ever. BTW…I believe in God.
April 14th, 2008 at 8:55 am
Donna, You are right about two things, the rapture and about many Jesus’. The Bible does not teach a rapture of the church before the tribulation, like is taught in most churches. I hope the Christians will wake up to that fact before it is too late. Also, Jesus told of many that would come as Christ in the last days. About hatred and intolerance being taught in the Bible, like I said before, you don’t know what love is, nor do you know what hate is. Warning people about their sin is not hate, it is love. Also, they not only get a warning but also get a way out by turning from their sin. Your problem is that you are a hypocrite, you say you love all mankind yet you call me a pig because you are intolerant of my beliefs. The things you condemn the Bible and myself for you do the samething. That is being a true hypocrite.
April 14th, 2008 at 8:56 am
Oh, and one more thing if you see Jesus in the clouds don’t fall for it. It is just a hologram. They’ve already perfected that in the Middle East.
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April 14th, 2008 at 9:03 am
Donna. Christ said he will come back in the clouds. But if you read Daniel, and Revelation 19- it’s not passive.
He and the angels of God destroy the beast and NWO.
So if you see a “jesus” who doesn’t whoop ass like a lion- it ain’t Jesus.
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