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Honduras, Obama’s First Coup d’etat
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Caracas, Venezuela – The text message that beeped on my cell phone this morning read “Alert, Zelaya has been kidnapped, coup d’etat underway in Honduras, spread the word.” It’s a rude awakening for a Sunday morning, especially for the millions of Hondurans that were preparing to exercise their sacred right to vote today for the first time on a consultative referendum concerning the future convening of a constitutional assembly to reform the constitution. Supposedly at the center of the controversary is today’s scheduled referendum, which is not a binding vote but merely an opinion poll to determine whether or not a majority of Hondurans desire to eventually enter into a process to modify their constitution.
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Such an initiative has never taken place in the Central American nation, which has a very limited constitution that allows minimal participation by the people of Honduras in their political processes. The current constitution, written in 1982 during the height of the Reagan Administration’s dirty war in Central America, was designed to ensure those in power, both economic and political, would retain it with little interference from the people. Zelaya, elected in November 2005 on the platform of Honduras’ Liberal Party, had proposed the opinion poll be conducted to determine if a majority of citizens agreed that constitutional reform was necessary. He was backed by a majority of labor unions and social movements in the country. If the poll had occured, depending on the results, a referendum would have been conducted during the upcoming elections in November to vote on convening a constitutional assembly. Nevertheless, today’s scheduled poll was not binding by law.
In fact, several days before the poll was to occur, Honduras’ Supreme Court ruled it illegal, upon request by the Congress, both of which are led by anti-Zelaya majorities and members of the ultra-conservative party, National Party of Honduras (PNH). This move led to massive protests in the streets in favor of President Zelaya. On June 24, the president fired the head of the high military command, General Romeo Vásquez, after he refused to allow the military to distribute the electoral material for Sunday’s elections. General Romeo Vásquez held the material under tight military control, refusing to release it even to the president’s followers, stating that the scheduled referendum had been determined illegal by the Supreme Court and therefore he could not comply with the president’s order. As in the Unted States, the president of Honduras is Commander in Chief and has the final say on the military’s actions, and so he ordered the General’s removal. The Minister of Defense, Angel Edmundo Orellana, also resigned in response to this increasingly tense situation.
But the following day, Honduras’ Supreme Court reinstated General Romeo Vásquez to the high military command, ruling his firing as “unconstitutional’. Thousands poured into the streets of Honduras’ capital, Tegucigalpa, showing support for President Zelaya and evidencing their determination to ensure Sunday’s non-binding referendum would take place. On Friday, the president and a group of hundreds of supporters, marched to the nearby air base to collect the electoral material that had been previously held by the military. That evening, Zelaya gave a national press conference along with a group of politicians from different political parties and social movements, calling for unity and peace in the country.
As of Saturday, the situation in Honduras was reported as calm. But early Sunday morning, a group of approximately 60 armed soldiers entered the presidential residence and took Zelaya hostage. After several hours of confusion, reports surfaced claiming the president had been taken to a nearby air force base and flown to neighboring Costa Rica. No images have been seen of the president so far and it is unknown whether or not his life is still endangered.
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Presidents Evo Morales of Bolivia and Hugo Chávez of Venezuela have both made public statements on Sunday morning condeming the coup d’etat in Honduras and calling on the international community to react to ensure democracy is restored and the constitutional president is reinstated. Last Wednesday, June 24, an extraordinary meeting of the member nations of the Bolivarian Alternative for the Americas (ALBA), of which Honduras is a member, was convened in Venezuela to welcome Ecuador, Antigua & Barbados and St. Vincent to its ranks. During the meeting, which was attended by Honduras’ Foreign Minister, Patricia Rodas, a statement was read supporting President Zelaya and condenming any attempts to undermine his mandate and Honduras’ democratic processes.
Reports coming out of Honduras have informed that the public television channel, Canal 8, has been shut down by the coup forces. Just minutes ago, Telesur announced that the military in Honduras is shutting down all electricity throughout the country. Those television and radio stations still transmitting are not reporting the coup d’etat or the kidnapping of President Zelaya, according to Foreign Minister Patricia Rodas. “Telephones and electricity are being cut off”, confirmed Rodas just minutes ago via Telesur. “The media are showing cartoons and soap operas and are not informing the people of Honduras about what is happening”. The situation is eerily reminiscent of the April 2002 coup d’etat against President Chávez in Venezuela, when the media played a key role by first manipulating information to support the coup and then later blacking out all information when the people began protesting and eventually overcame and defeated the coup forces, rescuing Chávez (who had also been kidnapped by the military) and restoring constitutional order.
Honduras is a nation that has been the victim of dictatorships and massive U.S. intervention during the past century, including several military invasions. The last major U.S. government intervention in Honduras occured during the 1980s, when the Reagain Administration funded death squads and paramilitaries to eliminate any potential “communist threats” in Central America. At the time, John Negroponte, was the U.S. Ambassador in Honduras and was responsible for directly funding and training Honduran death squads that were responsable for thousands of disappeared and assassinated throughout the region.
On Friday, the Organization of American States (OAS), convened a special meeting to discuss the crisis in Honduras, later issuing a statement condeming the threats to democracy and authorizing a convoy of representatives to travel to OAS to investigate further. Nevertheless, on Friday, Assistant Secretary of State of the United States, Phillip J. Crowley, refused to clarify the U.S. government’s position in reference to the potential coup against President Zelaya, and instead issued a more ambiguous statement that implied Washington’s support for the opposition to the Honduran president. While most other Latin American governments had clearly indicated their adamant condemnation of the coup plans underway in Honduras and their solid support for Honduras’ constitutionally elected president, Manual Zelaya, the U.S. spokesman stated the following, “We are concerned about the breakdown in the political dialogue among Honduran politicians over the proposed June 28 poll on constitutional reform. We urge all sides to seek a consensual democratic resolution in the current political impasse that adheres to the Honduran constitution and to Honduran laws consistent with the principles of the Inter-American Democratic Charter.”
As of 10:30am, Sunday morning, no further statements have been issued by the Washington concerning the military coup in Honduras. The Central American nation is highly dependent on the U.S. economy, which ensures one of its top sources of income, the monies sent from Hondurans working in the U.S. under the “temporary protected status” program that was implemented during Washington’s dirty war in the 1980s as a result of massive immigration to U.S. territory to escape the war zone. Another major source of funding in Honduras is USAID, providing over US$ 50 millon annually for “democracy promotion” programs, which generally supports NGOs and political parties favorable to U.S. interests, as has been the case in Venezuela, Bolivia and other nations in the region. The Pentagon also maintains a military base in Honduras in Soto Cano, equipped with approximately 500 troops and numerous air force combat planes and helicopters.
Foreign Minister Rodas has stated that she has repeatedly tried to make contact with the U.S. Ambassador in Honduras, Hugo Llorens, who has not responded to any of her calls thus far. The modus operandi of the coup makes clear that Washington is involved. Neither the Honduran military, which is majority trained by U.S. forces, nor the political and economic elite, would act to oust a democratically elected president without the backing and support of the U.S. government. President Zelaya has increasingly come under attack by the conservative forces in Honduras for his growing relationship with the ALBA countries, and particularly Venezuela and President Chávez. Many believe the coup has been executed as a method of ensuring Honduras does not continue to unify with the more leftist and socialist countries in Latin America.
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June 29th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Here we go again…
GigabyteXXL Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Yup Got that Right. situation doesn’t look good, notice the helmets and gear in the article picture of those troops? they look like militarized police of America. helmets look like US soldiers to a Tee.
ups@ Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
This is not written by Infowars team! I think you all should consider this only, and only as an interesting article. I think that Alex doesn’t know what is going on there at the moment for sure, he is only giving you something interesting to think about. In my opinion he is still collecting info about this event and until you see it is written by Infowars, PJ Watson (or somebody else from Alex’s team) you will not know for sure what is his definite position on this subject…
Maybe I’m wrong…
Alexis Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Get no information from one source.
Research all information you get.
Phil Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 7:56 am
Exactly Alexis,
AJ might well say some very good things but even so ‘ups@’ formulate your own opinion dude or you’re no better than the sheeple by just agreeing blindly to what someone else says!
Don’t get me wrong this website is great and I agree with a lot of AJ’s points but I still make sure I think about them myself before making my mind up.
Afterthought Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Obama’s name is in the title, but no where in the body of the article.
Bearing false witness is a sin.
And, no, God won’t be fooled by weasel words.
fancy Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 10:13 am
right on brother infowars is cia
Miguel Angel Tinoco Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Orlando, florida, 30de Junio, 2009.
Es impresindible que en Honduras se mantenga la cordura y no ceder, recapitular o rendirse a concensiones internacionales infundadas. Honduras ha hecho lo correcto ante Dios y el mundo y que Dios nos ampare. Zelaya Rosales es solo un hombre de dos caras y fue hechado de la republica de Honduras de la misma manera que Lucifer fue hechado del cielo y d ela presencia de Dios por Miguel el Archangel y el poder de Jesucristo por haberse revelado contra el Padre Eterno y pretender destruir el libre albedrio del hombre.
Miguel Angel Tinoco
malkiyahu@yahoo.com
J. Crux Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 2:05 am
Why “Obamá’s first coup d’etat”? Does Honduras belong to Obama? Is Honduras an undeclared US possession? Is Obama by any means accountable for Honduras’ political instability or lousy laws?
Why do (some?) Americans keep seeing the world as their own? My good lord, forgive the rest of us for not being born in the land of the free. Forgive us for our unwiseness and if you do, we promise to thee that we shall never try to be different again.
June 29th, 2009 at 11:48 am
you surprised?? I’m not.
They won’t stop until they rule the whole world or they are defeated.
June 29th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Just a dry run for Iran
June 29th, 2009 at 11:50 am
off topic: that bill 2554 that passed the house and on its way to the senate, according to t.boone pickens today, is his bill that he came up with to get the us off foriegn oil dependency. Words out of his own mouth 6/29/06.
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I am not amused Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
JJ:
Don’t act like Kaptur is some type of hero.
I live in her district.
She supports the corrupt Planned Parenthood, Illegal Immigration and Amnesty, She voted for Rape (Cap) and Trade ect.
She is just as corrupt as the rest from what I can tell – I know her votes will kill us and if given the chance I will activly campaign for any half way decent cantidate that runs against her.
Oh, our economy I think is one of the worst in the country. Yeah, she does such a great job.
June 29th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
I can not believe you people that post here. You all are truely sheep, in believeing what you read here. If you REALLY want to know the TRUTH about what happened in Hondo Land, you need to read this:
http://online.wsj.com/article/.....66301.html
I applaud the brave people in Honduras! At least they have the BALLS to stand-up to their corrupt President.
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June 29th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
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Geoph Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Are you telling me you believe The Washington Journal?
Now that’s funny!!
I have been to Honduras, clearly the people back their Pres, the military does NOT.
Besides any time Hilary says anything you can bet the opposite is true.
ME.
JohnK Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Geoph, WSJ is the Wall Street Journal, not Washington Journal. You should follow the link before commenting on its content.
Jonny Velocity Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Well the Wall St Journal is worse, so…
Mac-101 Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
The WSJ and Washington Times are the best among the WORST for iinfo.
Yup Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
It will be the same, almost everywhere. but we need many. hopefully “the People” do whats right.
mercyflush Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
So, the journal tells us the truth and we can just stop there. Note in the journal op/ed the spectre of insanity is raised. Just like Blogojovich, who went insane the next day after speaking out against BofA, or Noriega who was so obviously insane that he cannot be interviewed currently. Sirhan is also too insane for interviews. It appears these tinhorn dictators are all like Chavez or Amin, they go insane quite easily. Read ww2 covert ops history and all leaders on all sides suffered mental breakdowns; Britain even had a fake astrology guru ‘ the eminent Hungarian astrologer’ who toured the u.s. and world showing proof of insanity of all the nazi leaders. I’m amazed they didnt find the usual red coverd altar of human sacrifice they found with Noriega and several others. We all know that the bad people are into the occult. Come to think of it Alex Jones has repeatedly been decared insane or at least kookie; then there was the general vibe promoted by msm that Ron Paul was a kook. Problem with Paul is that he made too much fiscal sense, was too honest, and cleverly avoided discussing 9-11— the rosetta stone of modern politics (and real flypaper for a candidate). So, they had to pretend he was a doddering old fool— too much truth to handle.
Then there’s the limited hang out move of Hillary Clinton. If Clinton speaks out against this coup– which is what this is– then we must not have our prints on it. Just like the pretend distance from the Iranian games that his O ness affects. WSJ is as neocon as US news and World report— no cred.
June 29th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
i hope the members of alba step in and restore his presidency, this is so wrong of a few elite owned countries to stage this and try to act like they know nothing.they still dont understand WE CAN SEE, WE CAN HEAR, AND WE CAN DANG SURE THINK FOR OURSELVES, to steal a democracy away from the honduran people is a crime, and they guilty parties WHOMEVER THEY ARE, should be held responsible for all they are about to do, i bet the blood will flow very soon and i pray for the innocent victims
June 29th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
IRAN SAYS CIA KILLED MICHEAL JACKSON
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SoCalJurisD Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
amazing
Pat D NH Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Thats funny, i thought the same thing. Timing was just too good. Ive been keeping that one to myself though.
Just Blaze Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
The translation is bogus although it may be true this clip is not.
TheDankFrankSays Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
I’m not surprised!
what am i not surprised aboot?
I’m not telling you.
June 29th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
This is why the world hates us!
June 29th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Bless America
June 29th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
From the story:
“As in the Unted States, the president of Honduras is Commander in Chief and has the final say on the military’s actions”
Apparently not.
I’m appalled at the two stories leading on infowars about the ouster of Zelaya. At what point did these writers forget the meaning of “unconstitutional?”
The push for this vote by Zelaya was called unconstitutional by Honduras’ Congress, and RULED unconstitutional by Honduras’ Supreme Court! Zelaya led citizens to break into a military facility to steal the unconstitutional ballots. The ballots themselves were provided by Hugo Chavez’ Venezuela in order to help Zelaya defy the constitutional authority of the Honduran Congress and Supreme Court.
Add to this that the vote Zelaya was attempting to force was intended to eliminate the presidential term limit that would have forced Zelaya out of office after this term. Wonder why Chavez is friends with Zelaya?
If the writers here want to condemn America’s interventionist actions around the world, that’s fine. But writing perversely slanted stories regarding the actions inside a sovereign nation acting in accord with their own Constitution is in my opinion no better than anything Reagan or America ever “did” to subvert another country.
mercyflush Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
So, in other words, you instantly believe what the Washington Journal sez. Oh, I mean the Wall Street Journal— got to keep my lofty propaganda sources straight. Since they’re so important.
el nino Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
I don´t know what you´re trying to say, but I just take the information and be thankfull for it.
It´s very obvious that Washington is involved here. Where did you read that with Chavez providing ballots??? It´s not in this article.
JohnK Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Actually there’s a lot that’s not in this article. But here’s my reference.
Here is the quote:
But Mr. Zelaya declared the vote on his own and had Mr. Chávez ship him the necessary ballots from Venezuela. The Supreme Court ruled his referendum unconstitutional, and it instructed the military not to carry out the logistics of the vote as it normally would do.
And here is the link:
http://online.wsj.com/article/.....66301.html
Bitme Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
That Honduras people & their president have a right to run their goverment; they don’t need an unelected Supreme Court dictatorship thats been well paided for years by corporate America down there for decades. Hey its the best law money can buy!!!
Could be a prelude to what would happen if Ron Paul or Stripe won here.
PS: Well John how are things at Langley?!!! Slow day?!!!! Don’t forget to get a sign edition of Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein to read to Hector the Worm fron homeland Security
PS: Alex: Great story not cover by the Corporate media
JohnK Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Wrong! The Hondurans have a CONSTITUTION! And not even a “President” has the right to violate that Constitution. And it wasn’t just the Supreme Court, but also their Congress that were defending their Constitution. Were they ALL “CIA operatives?” Bought and paid for? And was it only this one poor little “President” that was “above it all” and NOT owned by the “CIA?” Nothing in your comments makes any sense.
And the rest of what you’re saying makes you sound like an idiot.
bitme Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Sorry it went over you’re head. Yes we too have a constitution, not worth very much after the Patroit Act. I forget those on langley payrole don’t read, there just told what to parrot. But I’ll make it simple for you. A hypotheicaly Situation? Obama want a national referendem on Banker bail out to the voting public; then goes ahead and prints the referendum to have it distributed but then our Supreme court says its not legal then sends the military under legal cover to conficate the referendum & the President because its not legal.
And you don’t get it???!!!!
(Think Allende assasination he wins presidential election in Chile …but the killing is legal)
June 29th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Yo, I’m from Honduras. Alex I cannot believe you actually wrote this piece of garbage on June 29. I’m here and following the situation closely. The military arrest of th President was in defense of the constitution following orders form the Supreme Court and the Attorney General’s office.
Also, I won’t even dignify your article with a point by point rebuttal, suffice it to say, it is full of disinformation and contradictory: Obama and Clinton and the US Ambassador to Honduras, the UN, The EU, The OAS have ALL said that they will not recognize any other President than the one who has been removed…so why orchestrate a Coup in the first place? So they can flip-flop back and forth on their foreign policy statements.
Give me a fucking break Alex.
Try talking to some Hondurans first to find out what’s happening in our country.
You forgot to mention that the protests in defense of our constitution and against the illegal referendum vastly outnumbered the one’s supporting the presiden’ts initiative (on occasions forty-fold). Not to mention, that protesters in favor of Zelaya were being paid $25 a pop to be there.
If you’re gonna wage an info war, get your info right.
lol Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
lol, Alex didn’t write this…
He just published it on his site…
direct your scrutiny to Eva Golinger XPP
mercyflush Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
If people actually IN Honduras know whats going on in Honduras, then %100 must agree with you. I live in the people’s republic of California; therefore my opinions of Cal politics are shared by %100 of Californians. The average ground pounder in Iraq or Afghanistan knows everything that is going on behind the scenes in those countries because HE’S THERE– and we’re not so we dont know a thing about Iraq or our other little projects. See how that works? It’s a very cheap way of pulling rank. If you’re not Moldavian, then you can never know anything about that country– if you were never a marine then you’re an out of shape, undisciplined, honor-less whiner who needs to be ordered around by a real man. IT’S EASY.
Many of us live in the United States; but very few people have a clue as to how things are really run here. So try talking to a few Americans at a shopping mall— they’ll tell you it’s a new begining of a brave new beautiful tommorrow and that only the bad folks hide their money in offshore banks. The point is, after we get past your qualification of being Honduran, you’re largely parroting the party line from the Main Stream Media, then saying it’s true because that’s what Hondurans know.
JohnK Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Thanks Hector. This article drove me crazy too. It’s great to hear from someone living through this mess. But even not living there, this article smells like part of a dis-infowar.
el nino Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
omfg the supreme court CANT do this.
you freakin liar you are not in honduras but in a villa in california drinking whiskey with schwarzenegger!
bitme Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
You go John & Hector leader of disinformation!!!! And again why are you here you should be at CNBC watch Kramer for stock tip on the Bull mkt!!!
June 29th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Its beyond time to WAKE UP! Now! Now! Now! Now! Now!!!!!!!!
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June 29th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Fact: “Hector from Honduras” is a paid disinfo agent working with net ops.
Honduran national Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Agree.
June 29th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
“the UN, The EU, The OAS have ALL said that they will not recognize any other President than the one who has been removed…”
This is factually false. The only statements made were highly ambiguous. “Hector from Honduras” has an IP address registering in US with spoofing technology that would only be available to broader ops programs, meaning he is either part of a larger organization or working on a contract (i.e., paid). Since he is spreading explicitly false assertions, it is rational to conclude that he is a paid disinfo agent — they are no strangers to this site and others.
el nino Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
so ignore hector simply.
June 29th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
So, I posted my rebuttal by quoting and linking articles proving that in fact all those Organizaions have claimed that they want Zelaya reinstated and the rule of law restored. And now it’s gone.
That’s some silencing, that’s some disinfo.
el nino Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
piss off troll
June 29th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
I’m disturbed at UPS@, asking everyone to wait formulating an opinion until there is an official Infowars release. I for one appreciate infowars, but I don’t stand by waiting to be told what to think.
I suggest ups@, would engage in critical thinking skills and determine your own conclusion without having Paul Watson make it for you. I’m sure Paul would agree.
June 29th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
You will NOT be drafting my children when you decide to attack Venesuela . Not gonna happen. We dont serve the beast system! We do not serve the NWO. We serve Yeshua. Jesus Christ.
So go looking somewhere else.
I said it here. Venesuela will attack Honduras for killing their Ambassador, if he is dead, and America will defend Honduras. This is the NWO’s way to draw Chavez into a fight.
el nino Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
noooooooooooooooo he mustnt loose his head!
hugo is such a tempered man, he´ll loose his head.
but it will make everything worse.
June 29th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Obama has publicy stated that the admin. believes the coup to be ILLEGAL and that they will work to ensure the rule of democratically elected officials stays.
The US and Obama support Zelaya.
Get this shit straight.
The article here was written yesterday BEFORE Obama announced that he does NOT support the coup and will work with south america including venezuela to see that he is put back to his position as president.
Friggin InfoWhores….
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8125292.stm
June 29th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
BS article. Zelaya was attempting to extend his presidential term despite it being unconstitutional. He was pulling a Chavez and was booted out. Consider him lucky that he wasn’t killed.
June 29th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Obama has nothing to do with this. It’s simple: The president on Hondorus was setting up a dictatorship & the patriots of the land would have none of that. That is why Obama speaks out against the patriotic coup, because he too, is undermining our constitution, just like the South American Dictators, like chavez, or the honduran president.
warmbeer Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
And thats why Obama is running his mouth about it being illegal because he doesnt want us sheeple to get any ideas about defending the constitution like they are in Honduras!
Dr. Conservative Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 7:32 am
Thats exactly why
June 29th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
and note that Ms. Golinger was writing from ‘Caracas, Venezuela’ the home of disinformation, government run/controlled media. Chavez needs to be ousted in the same manner that he ousted private business.
June 29th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
something to think about: Zelaya has strong ties with Hugo Chavez and also with Cuba – this may be good news, do we really need a dictator in C.A.?
June 29th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
The only reason why these guys have to take a dictatorial stance is because the CIA is so involved in their countries that they would have riots 24/7 if they didn’t crack down. Its a catch 22 situation, they can either be assasinated or couped out of office or control society a little too much.
The lesser of 2 evils is still evil, but its either oppress your people for their own good or let them be oppressed by the globalizers and have them starve to death.
They’re forced to be the ‘bad guy’. It’s a real shame but are they to blame?
FightOrFlee Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 4:15 am
Well said. Anyone who opposes the banksters in a evil dictator. See how that works.
June 29th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
More training for future death squads.
June 29th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
trying to sort the facts, I have:
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President Zelaya was favorable to other thinkers in the region (Venezuela, Chile, Brazil, Nicaragua, Ecuador, etc.), none of them in favor of US foreign politics. Anti-US sentiment is growing in the region.
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He was trying to get a referendum to the constitution using the vote of the people, knowing that he will not have a favorable reaction thru his congress or Supreme Court.
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US Empire has a military base in Honduras.
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Modus operands similar to what describes John Perkins in a few YouTube videos.
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Peace.
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June 29th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
“On June 24, the president fired the head of the high military command, General Romeo Vásquez, after he refused to allow the military to distribute the electoral material for Sunday’s elections.”
What? Could you imagine US military distributing election materials?
June 29th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
I got to agree with a few posters above. From my readings and having a couple Spanish speaking Comrades reseach this, it appears that the Army actually upheld their Oath of “Defending the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic”. It also appears President Obama realy is worried about this precidence and would not have encouraged it. But who knows since DOUBLESPEAK has been developed to an art form!
June 29th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Not sure how the Honduran military is, but in the U.S. if an order is illegal according to the law or constitution then it is the Officer’s or Senior Enlisted members duty to refuse that order and not carry it out. Just because the President is the Commander in Chief doesn’t mean what ever spews out of his mouth is a lawful order. For instance, if President Obama orderd the immediate collection of all firearms to be carried out by the military or police, then it would be an UNLAWFUL order. Our 2nd ammendment rights are our rights. Just thought I’d throw that out there.
Dr. Conservative Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 7:40 am
The enlisted oath states that they will follow the orders of the President, however, the officers oath does not say this, to be exact.
Bottom line, both oaths swear to uphold and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
The Oath of Enlistment (for enlistees- not officers):
“I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”
The Oath of Office (for officers):
“I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance tot he same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God.”
JonVon Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 7:51 am
The Katrina gun confiscation never happened? Tha military will follow all orders lawful or not get a grip.
June 29th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Not necessarily good countries, many are tyrannical in their own regard, but a list of…
Countries Not Under Anglo-American Globalist Control:
Armenia
Belarus
Bhutan
Bolivia
Brazil
China
Cuba
Ecuador
Eritrea
Iran
Lebanon
Libya
Myanmar
Nicaragua
North Korea
Russia
Serbia
Somalia
Sudan
Syria
Venezuela
Vietnam
Yemen
Zimbabwe
JETHRO Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 12:18 am
Don’t be too sure about Brazil. Their president is a moron and Obaaaaama said “I love this guy” at a recent whitehouse event. Plus, their federal reserve bought 200 Billion Dollars last year when Bush was still in office
June 29th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
Heard this on the talk radio this morning. The article sums up what this guy was saying on the radio.
http://rapidshare.com/files/25.....s_clip.mp3
June 30th, 2009 at 12:33 am
wake up sheeple–and this time i’m talking to alex’s listeners here:
what happened in honduras is NOT a military coup! it was the military rising up AGAINST a would-be oppressor!
the deposed president was attempting to make a power grab–the honduran constitution BANS any attempt to remove presidential term limits; the referendum he was trying to hold was a referendum on removing those limits.
obama and hillary have both condemned the honduran military’s action in defense of constitutional rule–because they know it’s a dangerous precedent that will impair the new world order’s goal of eliminating constitutional rule in the usa.
let us hope that the us military is prepared to follow honduras’s example should the need ever arise.
Dr. Conservative Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 7:42 am
You hit the nail right on the head.
June 30th, 2009 at 5:50 am
why is alex promoting the search of a new mainstream search engine, whos also advertising heavily on the new york times website?
it’s a rhetorical question.
bill gates Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 7:30 am
not only that – but it’s owned by microsoft.
June 30th, 2009 at 7:29 am
just a polite comment regards the recently held ‘infowars money bomb’. that being the slogan used to promote the event – “fighting tyranny one dollar at a time”.
my question is how on earth can you fight a tyranny ‘one dollar at a time’ when THEY have looted the US to the approximate tune of 15 trillion dollars, or close to that amount.
why even try to ‘fight’ a dollar based ‘war’ when the ‘opposition’ is several trillion ahead? obviously its a catchy strapline – but really – didn’t anyone else spot the inane nature of this statement?
along these lines it’d be like a small mouse trying to take on hulk hogan by asking for cheese donations.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:40 am
The Hondurans have a CONSTITUTION! And not even a “President” has the right to violate that Constitution.
that protesters in favor of Zelaya were being paid $25 a pop to be there
HMMMM LET’S CHANGE SOMETHING…..
The AMERICANS have a CONSTITUTION! And not even a “President Obama” has the right to violate that Constitution.
that protesters “VOTERS” in favor of “Obama” were being paid $25 a pop to be there
YEA THAT SEEMS ABOUT RIGHT LMFAO!!!!!!
bill gates Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 8:51 am
come on – it’s not like america HASN’T got a sterling reputation for invading sovereign states and countries.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Finally something we can bitch about on obama.
bill gates Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 11:22 am
shut it you racist scum obama is a saint.
mike Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 5:50 pm
racist lmfao……what my new WHITE president who happens to be half black…..LMFAO!!!.I luv it we have come so far as a nation ,and you still judge him by his color lmfao!!!!…….first “black president” what a joke!……
June 30th, 2009 at 10:48 am
No matter what we think here. The truth is unless you live there you can’t know for sure. What I do know is that our gov wants to be involved and when I see that there is a US agenda (NWO) agenda. I think there is NWO fingers in that pie. Just like in Iran. I do know some Honorians and I will ask for their opinion. Power to the peaceful people!!!
July 1st, 2009 at 12:34 am
Obama interferenc in soberania of Nations
Obama is Demonic
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:39 am
wow! that is the biggest crock o’ hooey article I have ever read here.
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