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House Passes Banker Takeover Bill
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Jeanne Sahadi
CNNMoney
October 3, 2008
After two weeks of contentious and often emotional debate, the federal government’s far-reaching and historic plan to bail out the nation’s financial system was on the verge of enactment Friday afternoon.
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President Bush, speaking less than an hour after the House voted 263 to 171 to pass the bill, is expected to sign it later Friday.
“By coming together on this legislation, we have acted boldly to prevent the crisis on Wall Street from becoming a crisis in communities across our country,” said Bush.
The House vote followed a strong lobbying push by the White House and other supporters of the bill, following the House defeat of a similar measure on Monday – a defeat that shocked the markets and congressional leaders on both sides of the aisle.
The legislation, which would allow the Treasury Secretary to purchase as much as $700 billion in troubled assets in a bid to kick-start lending, would usher in one of the most far-reaching interventions in the economy since the Great Depression.
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October 3rd, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Let us lay America to rest in her final moments. Good night sweet princess, we loved you so.
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:49 pm
As you sow you shall reap motherfuckers!
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Who cares, what about the fact that people are sending there children straight to hell! All you people care about is the preservation of this world. Listen, Alex Jones, this world is going to be burned with a fervent heat.(not a nuke) Your hope is here, our hope is in Him. Riches proffit not in the day of wrath.
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:50 pm
The stupid bastards have just put hyperinflation in the driving seat and it has it’s foot peddle to the metal to destruction……
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:51 pm
The nail in the coffin!
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:51 pm
I can’t even imagine what the world will be like, if there is one, for our kids.
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:51 pm
ok here what we need to do
we need to contact our STATE senators, and we need to demand a vote for lack of confidence in our leadership
not the senators in DC, but the people who do state legistlature
everybody needs to do this shit
if over half the states do this, we rebuild the rederal government
it’s the only way to avoid violent conflict
and we need to get the word out to everybody
we we looking for state legislature makers
they are still called senators, but they are per county and meet in your state capitol
the states themselves have to make the lack of confidence votes
if it were to succeed it would basically take everyone out of office and take us back to the constitution
gET ON IT FOLKS
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:51 pm
The day America lost it’s sovereignty. No longer home of the Free.
Time to raise the Dixie Flag. We are all slaves now.
They no longer have to threaten us with Martial Law folks. So you can put away your guns and get back to work.
They got their money and we are so in debt we cannot afford to pay attention anymore.
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:54 pm
this is total dictatorship! mccain and obama both supported this communist takeover. we must fight it!
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Will this FINALLY cause people to wake up and realize they are truly living in the ultra Matrix? I feel so badly to know the economic and financial implications for so many millions of Americans. Also, I fully expect civil unrest to progressively escalate which also bothers me greatly. The last thing people will do is remain passive after they have been financially raped in a troubled economy.
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Good God
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Goodbye America. You will and are missed.
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Did they have flag burning ceremony after the vote?
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:56 pm
im 17 years old a senior in high school and im not lookin foward to the future.
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:56 pm
I’ve been wondering why the globalists needed this to pass through our governmental system. Why not just do it anyway? They wouldn’t even need to do it covertly these days. My theory is that Paulson’s new branch of government will completely protect the Fed system now. Before, if the congress wanted to nationalize the Fed or abolish it, they had legal and jurisdictional powers to do so. This bill has, more than likely, blocked congress from acting towards the Fed, using our system of government to do it. They consider that consent of the people and just love pulling off these scams in plain sight. Fits their twisted idiom.
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:59 pm
The resistance movement has to begin soon or it’ll be to late.
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:00 pm
So, let me get this straight. A NO vote means it is not accepted until it becomes a YES vote. And once it becomes a YES vote, thne it’s done and nothing else can ever change it. This is Democracy. my good friends
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:02 pm
This is insane…
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:03 pm
The truth is; is that this land was taken from people. The very basis of its “finding” from the moment of its takeover was built on other peoples hurt, loss and blood. Nothing other than the very acts it creates can ever come from this place. People expect peace here when this country was built on deception, murder and blood. Never, in anyplace will you produce a different reaction than that which you give. The idea and dream of this land was at the expense of millions, upon millions of lives and anyone who claims it their own will suffer. Suffering does not only mean physical pain, but a life without calm, peace or security. There is no future here.
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Great Point#17.
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:05 pm
I have news for you all, congress the house and all of them DONT CARE what you say when you call them, what you write when you email them or anything else you do. One congressman had on his website that even though many people in his district are against it, he thinks it is needed and voted yes.
What else will it take to proved to people that they dont care? They just sold America…
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:05 pm
I’ve seen this in a lot of people:
“Who cares, what about the fact that people are sending there children straight to hell! All you people care about is the preservation of this world. Listen, Alex Jones, this world is going to be burned with a fervent heat.(not a nuke) Your hope is here, our hope is in Him. Riches proffit not in the day of wrath.”
What a load of tripe. They say “It’s pointless, so I’m just not going to do anything.”
I’m sure that you weren’t the first person to say those words. I’m betting that it has probably been said around the time of every major war and every major economic crisis, around every military coup… do you get it?
Your belief in “God” is in all probability very much false and pointless. If there is a God, then it is far more complex and intelligent than you could possibly comprehend, and putting such humanitarian limits on such a being would be a penultimate insult.
So, what’s my point?
My point is that you people and others like you had best wise up. What happens when the day comes, and this “fervent heat” doesn’t happen, and you had done nothing, for you were under the belief that it would have been futile? I bet you’ll feel right well about yourself; you will manage to rationalize in your mind reasons for never having helped your fellow man.
This isn’t about God, or Jesus, and the Jews, or anyone. It’s about all of us. Maybe it is futile. But a good man knows what is right and what is wrong, and will always choose to do what is right, even if it seems hopeless. For, the act of doing what is right is and always will be worth it.
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:06 pm
#14 THIS WILL SUCK I am close to your age and if we all work together creatively, there is promise for the future. The old ones are getting senile and dying off, this country is just like a winning football team that does not lose a game if all young people stick together, listen to the older best coaches, plan intelligently and kick them to hell. Hang in man.
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Oh goody, now everything will be okay and we can get back to our normal wonderful lives…
How soon until all hell breaks lose?
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:11 pm
FUCKING ASSHOLES! I’m just 18 and they just destroyed my financial future. My wonderful country is ruined by greedy bastards.
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:11 pm
We might as well get down on our knees and pledge allegiance to the House of Rothschild, because least now we KNOW that we no longer have any rights. Every man for himself (just don’t break any of their laws!)
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:12 pm
#24…….who cares…when does AI come back on?…..haahaa……I think I am going to go throw up now…..
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:16 pm
In response to 22, it is about Jesus, does not the money we exchange say In God We Trust, wasn’t the Constitution built around Christian values? Did not Jesus help the oppressed and his fellow man? Are our hearts hardened that much that we turn aside the true teachings of the Bible to belt out our on blasphemous plans. Commandment #1 Love God wholeheartedly and the second biggest commandment Love Thy Neighbor as You Love Yourself. This is what Jesus taught. So yes it is about Jesus and God as they would want us to help out the oppressed, poor, sick, mame, ignorant. To judge isn’t that for only one to do?
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:17 pm
#25 You think the dismantling happened now in September 2008? It was in progress when we were in middle school and kicked off to a hyperspeed post 9/11. What do you think all the bitchin is about?
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:19 pm
to arms the british are coming!
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:21 pm
#22 Darn strait thats all its about a war for our free will is on !
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Wow, its finally over people. We have just robbed by bankers.
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:24 pm
It is clear now more than ever that the US government is neither of the people or for the people. Shame on Congress.
“Give me control over a nation’s currency and I care not who makes its laws.”
-M.A. Rothschild
“The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.”
-Proverbs 22:7
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:31 pm
I’m so ANGRY I can barely speak!!!!
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Remember if anyone elected ever says well I didnt do that just ask them:
“If you are not in favor of what the previous administration has done, will you repeal or recind any of the laws that were passed (like the patriot act), and then watch them change the subject. That tells you that they ALL support what is going on.
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Hyperinflation here we come, they just added 50 ft of track to the roller coaster that is the worlds largest drop. Thanks for delaying the inevitable!
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:38 pm
so is it still worth voting in November?..I’m losing interest fast…
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:42 pm
The Fed: Privatizing gains and socializing losses since 1914
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:42 pm
So much for the infowar.
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:45 pm
They stole our country.Thieves always loose in the end.
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:46 pm
“Politics is the extraordinary belief that the most despicable people with the most despicable characters will somehow work for OUR benefit.”
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Two planes couldn’t bring down Wall Street. No the real terrorists ran Wall Street. And today, just like on September 11, 2001, our government was complacent to the crime. And the American people are stuck with the bills for both disasters.
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:59 pm
You can see the vote roll call here: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll681.xml
For all the good it did, at least my Representative stuck with his “no” vote. The cynic in me wants to say he only did so because he is up for re-election in November, and he probably figured it would pass without his vote anyway, so might as well keep my constituents happy. I would like to believe he was actually trying to do right by us.
October 3rd, 2008 at 3:03 pm
ECONOMIC MARTIAL LAW HAS BEEN DECLARED
October 3rd, 2008 at 3:05 pm
What a little bit of threats and good money will do to pass this bill indeed.
October 3rd, 2008 at 3:22 pm
There is one more resort that no one has considered.
each State int he nation always had the right to get out of the nation
Coin its own money that would leave the banksters holding the empty bag
there would be no more federal tax if the states they suck off of are out of the united states
not to mention no more U.N the U.S. is in the U.N not the individual states this is the opposite of consolidation this is the oposit of new world order. They want more consolidation U.s Mexico canida, Doesnot work so well if the U.s. is gone back to independant states. Washington will lose authority in the states no more presidential puppets no more federal control easier to cleen out nazzies at the state level then the federal level. because with out big contole levers like the federal government they have no foot hold or controle.
to put a fire out you break up the burning parts and separate them then the fire goes out. thats how to put out the new world order. we can always put the states back together after we take the trash out.
October 3rd, 2008 at 3:22 pm
There maybe hope yet. Write in Ron Paul for President 2008 see http://www.RonPaul2008.com for a true patriot. Dr. Paul works for limited constitutional government, free markets, balanced budgets, sound monetary policies and he has never voted to raise taxes. He has consistently voted against the USA PATRIOT Act, regulating the Internet, The Real ID Ace and the Iraq War.
He has been made to look like a kook by our state run corporate owned media!
October 3rd, 2008 at 3:25 pm
We are all SCREWED!!!, from Great Britain.
October 3rd, 2008 at 3:26 pm
you know ive been watching this web site for well over a year now and everything alex jones has said has come true. Now we can come to this web site every day and leave our little $0.02 comments our we can act now and stop this shit… END GAME is coming there is no more time left for talk the revolution is now, we need to use forms like these to get together and plan our take over. ITS TIME, who is with me?
October 3rd, 2008 at 3:33 pm
I have yet to see Americans truely protest in mass numbers yet, I dont understand why, other countries do over smaller things then this and they have less freedoms than us supposevly. In fact in so many other countries they go straight to jail and get tortured, yet they protest any way.
I just dont get it?????? I guess Americans are above all that.
October 3rd, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Well here is what is going to happen. NOTHING. Your all going to sit around moan about things and in a week you will be over it and into the New World Order. Come on over to the right side of this little conflict. We have hot water and soon all the toilet paper. After the majority of you rather porky Americans have starved for a few weeks your going to be clamoring for the NWO to save you. Come now It’s not like I did not warn you about this you could have taken the hint and gotten some better government positions. Did you no. So, now your going to have to pay for your short sightedness. Silly, silly workers now your going to have to feel the lash… pathetic mules. A few of you might make amusing pets… Maybe…
October 3rd, 2008 at 4:08 pm
RIP Amerika. Do I put that chain around my wrists or around my neck first?
October 3rd, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Well it’s official
The People are irrelevant.
My list of things to get done.
1. Empty out bank accounts.
2. Eliminate direct deposit.
3. Not one minute of overtime.
4. Clean the gutters.
5. Load up on beans and bullets.
6. Cancel trip.
7. Take all vacation and sick leave now
8. Career change (farming)
9. Get what I need and not what I want.
10. Eliminate everything that’s not necessary.
October 3rd, 2008 at 4:25 pm
What ever happened to the teaching that “God helps those who help themselves.”? Sitting and whining and waiting for something to happen seems to be more than a little self defeating. Waiting for someone (GOD) else to do something…?
October 3rd, 2008 at 4:27 pm
calling all snipers! there’s a big list of traitors that’s got to go!!! now!!
October 3rd, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Neck the chain is not long enough to reach your neck once the wrists are done.
October 3rd, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Whoa calling for assassination and on jone’s site. This is something the media should hear about.
October 3rd, 2008 at 4:33 pm
where’s a link to the bill? I’m talking like a fool to my friends, and only have stories to back it up.
October 3rd, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Bailout Doesn’t Resolve Fears On Economy, Credit
BAILOUT DOESN’T RESOLVE FEARS ABOUT ECONOMY, CREDIT
SO MUCH FOR THE FINANCIAL FASCISM CONSOLIDATION $70O BIL DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE BILL
Stocks ended sharply lower Friday as traders briefly celebrated the House’s approval of the Wall Street bailout, then yanked their positions ahead of the weekend.
“Definitely a sell-the-rally mentality,” Dave Rovelli, managing director of US equity trading at Boston-based Canaccord Adams, said.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average ended down 157.15, or 1.5 percent, at 10325.38, after being up nearly 300 points at one point. (Track the Dow winners and losers.)
The S&P 500 fell 1.4 percent, while the Nasdaq declined 1.5 percent.
Anxiety resurfaced in the market, with the CBOE Volatility Index topping 45. The VIX hit a new 52-week high of 48.40 on Monday.
CNBC staff and wire reports
| 03 Oct 2008 | 04:09 PM ET
Congress approved an unprecedented $700 billion government bailout of the battered financial industry, but worries that the plan won’t prevent a recession or ease the credit crisis prompted investors to dump stocks.
The House passed the rescue plan early Friday afternoon and it was quickly signed into law by President Bush. But after rallying in anticipation the bill would pass, stocks quickly reversed course and closed lower.
# Now, What About Stocks?
# What’s in the Revised Measure
# Why There’s a Tax Break for Arrows
“The markets are still paralyzed,” Loomis Sayles’ Dan Fuss, one of the most widely followed U.S. bond managers, said after the vote. “We need confidence back in these markets and that really takes time.”
In a sign of the spreading crisis, California said it was running out of money, France said the world stood on the “edge of the abyss” and European leaders divided over their response to the banking sector’s difficulties.
Earlier Friday, the US reported its biggest monthly job loss in 5 1/2 years, coming on top of a pile of economic data pointing to an approaching recession. Data showed the U.S. services sector holding up.
“The data has been horrible all week long,” said Fred Dickson, market strategist at D.A. Davidson in Lake Oswego, Oregon. “It’s a bill with risks, but it’s a plan and the market needs a plan.”
The final vote, 263-171 in the House, capped two weeks of tumult in Congress and on Wall Street, punctuated by daily warnings that the country confronted the gravest economic crisis since the Great Depression if lawmakers failed to act. There were 58 more votes for the measure than an earlier version that failed on Monday.
“We all know that we are in the midst of a financial crisis,” House Republican leader John Boehner of Ohio said shortly before casting his vote for a massive government intervention in private capital markets that was unthinkable only a month ago.
THIS PROVES AJ IS 1000 PERCENT CORRECT AND THE INCESTUOUS STUPID POLITICOS WRONG!
October 3rd, 2008 at 4:40 pm
vote the bums OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=razF08A-9Is
October 3rd, 2008 at 4:47 pm
With the passing of this bill, it has become obvious that the people of this great country no longer have representation. Therefore, NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!
October 3rd, 2008 at 4:55 pm
talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk that is all you people are.
October 3rd, 2008 at 5:09 pm
did you all know that In 2006, Secretary to the US Treasury Paulson secured $35 million dollars in bonuses from his former employer, Investment Bank, Goldman Sachs.
dont mean to be funny but you americans deserve all you get for not getting out on the streets and RIOTING! over this,
instead you send an email, or wave a cardboard plaqe
very very sad indeed!
October 3rd, 2008 at 5:29 pm
I have been wondering some things lately. I am fairly new to this site, and I have noticed that people do a lot of talking on the comments. I have always kept track of our government, and I know that there is truly taxation without representation. I know that our government has become more of a pluralistic dictatorship that gives the appearance of representation. I also know that government unification is in process. Despite all of the governments intrusions and all of the talk on this site about how mad everyone is, there is no action to repel tyranny. Could this site be serving as a sort of propaganda machine that allows people to vent so that they are less likely to act? Does this site encourage people to spend their energy in unproductive outlets?
These comments and question might make people mad, but I bet they won’t do anything. They are too busy hating Christians, Jews, minorities, or some other group. Anyone except the actual oppressors. The unification of the citizens needs trust, and trust comes from understanding and empathy. These qualities are not capable of existing in an environment of incorrectly focused hatred and anger. Read the constitution and bill of rights and you will know the keys that our forefathers gave us to free ourselves and our liberty from captivity.
October 3rd, 2008 at 5:30 pm
I SPEAK TO ALL AMERICANS’, THIS DAY I DECREE THAT YOU HAVE THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO CLAIM NINE DEPENDENTS FROM THE BEGINNING OF ANY MONTH TIL THE 2ND WEEK OF DECEMBER OF THAT PARTICULAR YEAR….THEN REVERSE BACK TO YOUR NORMAL DEPENDENTS’ CLAIMS…. AT START OF NEW YEAR CLAIM NINE AGAIN TILL 2ND WEEK OF DEC OF THAT PARTICULAR YR!!!!…DO THIS ALL THE TIME AND THEY GET JACK SPIT FOR THEIR BANKER BUDDIES BAILOUT WHORES!!!…USE AS MUCH DEDUCTIONS AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE WHEN SEEKING A REFUND THEY SWINDLE FROM YOU!!!
October 3rd, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Now starts the War! Everyone go take your money out of the bank now! Then we’ll grab our arms and head to D.C. ( District of Criminals ) and take em out of office one by one. And if they dare turn our military against us, Let them do so. Just remember, We brought these young people into this world, We will take you out! We’ll start with the run on the banks, that’ll give em something to think about! Then we’ll storm D.C. round up all the politicians and ship them to their country they can run, IRAQ! Next will be the Federal Reserve, Need to get this institution the hell out of our country for good! All illegals must leave now, or we will put you out! Now, America where are we, Still sittin in front of the TV, keeping yourselves wrapped up in your drama world? Are we just gonna sit and all become spineless pussies like these corrupt minded criminals have started to create? Jesse Venture! I’m callin you out to be our leader for the Revolution! I’m behind you all the way! Lets get it goin NOW! Peace to all of you that care! Good Luck in the troubled times to come!
October 3rd, 2008 at 5:33 pm
This is to Joe Smith… re:talk, talk, talk. Nobody is listening to you Joe, so please go else where.
October 3rd, 2008 at 5:46 pm
This time most Americans knew what was at risk. ?? you did not do enough and the bankers shafted you up the backside. Not only have they stole your money and your childrens money. THey did it after they told you they were going to do it. they then ghot your elected representatives to make it law.
You guys should be ashamed for not hitting the streets and making sure this did not happen
Man they have just ripped you off so bad its scary and the rest of the world is going to go the same way
I can hear them laughing…
Time to fight.. im off to get tooled up
October 3rd, 2008 at 5:52 pm
Sorry i did not mean to have such a rant, im just so pissed off. I just thought that America could not let it happen, sorry if i offended in my last post. I think its time for a reveloution
October 3rd, 2008 at 6:03 pm
I invite each one of you who are unhappy with this bailout to HOST A TEA PARTY! Get your friends, neighbors, and family together to converse and VOTE The YES VOTERS OUT of OFFICE! Many are on the ballot this November. Get empowered! There’s not much difference between the two parties anymore. Here is a chance to do something. I’m going to have to explain to my son why he will be a slave to a debt he didn’t create. I will at least be able to tell him that I did something stop it and punished those who let it happen. Right now your vote counts…so let’s hit them where it hurts!
October 3rd, 2008 at 6:09 pm
That’s pretty much correct Ben #68, You hit the nail right on the head. I’ve been observing the articles on this site for some time now and, all last weekend it had warnings and articles concerning the bailout but all day wednesday had nothing concerning it. I think even observed people’s commenting on the current bailout plan and being laughed at by the people who were completely blind sided by this, and by thursday it was in the house already. We tried hard to warn you people that it was a second bailout attempt and you claimed victory. Sorry but I feel let down by Alex and company and feel sorry for people who believe Alex makes a difference because in truth he came up short this week. He committed the ultimate form of treason by not following the senates vote on wednesday. Sorry fools but you guys are gonna have to broaden your horizons, expand your media outlets and let Alex go once and for all. He FAILED US ALL DURING THE CRUCIAL DAYS AND ANYONE WHO DENIES THIS, IS THE BIGGEST KOOL-AID DRINKER OF ALL!!!!
October 3rd, 2008 at 6:44 pm
#68 Ben: WHOA. How you have underestimated the broad plethora of people who post here. Infowars covers the globe in shortwave. It is global on the Net. And Alex Jones has the airwaves of massive AM and FM stations throughout the country. You might also take note of the fact that bright people with many connections do not offer all information they have and actions they plan to take freely and openly on a widely read website. The words and anger are genuine. People are completely fed up and ready to take to the streets. No cabal of politicians is going to endanger the futures of extremely bright and capable people on an economic level with one hand while placing the Constitution in the shredder with the other. You are probably some older Gen X person who just happened to come here to drop some cynical comments on people with genuine concerns and wishing the best for the future. Educate yourself. It is also an insult to all those who have fought in the military, especially in Iraq and Afghanistan to return to a nation that has been looted like Zimbabwe. The economy is so bad people cannot even buy Toyotas in this environment.
October 3rd, 2008 at 7:00 pm
#71 Ferry, talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk keep talking Ferry. Flap your lips some more. The fact you replied means you read it Ferry. Silly Ferry no treat.
October 3rd, 2008 at 7:27 pm
I’m up north. THe frozen north. Watching with ratp anticipation to see wether y’all got any real organization. I see you don’t. Your gov’t has done a good job in it’s psychological warfare against you. You’re weak and sparse. MKUltra succeded. The bastards got us in a bind. Imma take a pageoutta their book. start consolidating my owm money and power. incrementally
Those of you spurred by sites like this to take action will be taken out of the picture! Lay low!
Buy and build like everything is normal. We mush used even deeper cover methods to have food and land.
Gasoline or biodeisel to run generators
Go underground
Buy “THe Self Sufficient Life and How to Live It” INVALUBLE!!!!
I’m with you!!
THe underground railroad is again open for business!!!
October 3rd, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Its The End Of The World As We Know It (REM). All I want to say is we alowed all this to happen by being brainwashed by the media and believing everything we are told. There will be hell to pay in the coming months. I was wondering if this all must come to pass before 2010 and then we will be told we have no choice but,to inact the Amero? Its pretty obvious that we are going to crash and burn very soon. Take care everybody.
October 3rd, 2008 at 7:32 pm
#73–You are right. It is indeed time for a revolution. Let us start by taking all available moneyout of the banks and keeping it at home or elsewhere. Stop shopping Wal-mart, shop local stores and business. Buy from your local farmer’s markets, yard sales, thrift shops, moving sales, etc. Start with the economic boycott. Refuse of have any credit cards. I already have. Who is with me?
October 3rd, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Shame America. You let these people steal 2 elections,and watched as they took trillions of dollars in surplus funds and hand it all out to their friends to the point where the country is all but bankrupt. Your dollar was the strongest in the world and now nobody takes it seriously. Sit back and watch your sons wage fake occupational wars on the wings of fake terror attacks. Nobody would have ever thought the American people would be such brain dead pushover cowards. Why Dont you stand up for yourselves. If they try this shit in Canada ,youd better believe they wouldnt get away with it. How is it that this asshole mafia at the helm of your country is not tried for treason. Because you all allow it.
October 3rd, 2008 at 8:15 pm
1.) The Wall St elite were afraid of becoming serfs like us
2.) Government POWER grab!!
3.) They could have let Wall St fall and sured up pensions for the little guy.
4.) Both candidates endorsed the bail out so be good sheeple and go and vote for one of them.
This is not the will of the people… TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!
Do they represent you?… I rest my case.
October 3rd, 2008 at 8:46 pm
The country , even by the rulers admission in their actions of preparing for civil unrest, is in pre-revolutionary state.It needs a spark to set off the avalanche.And that spark will be run on the banks.Go forth strike out now and produce the spark.
October 3rd, 2008 at 10:15 pm
I believe CARBON TAX was the big win today for N.W.O they now have us people.good luck 2 all people and goodbye
October 3rd, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Stay out of fear and hate traps.
All hope is not lost yet people.
Be very careful where your emotions take you.
Do not quit, do not give up! And do not do anything irrational!
October 3rd, 2008 at 11:09 pm
I recommend the exact opposite of #85.
Time for the Irrational to take the streets, I have been let down by the intellects of this country and they are guilty of using there intelligence for there own selfish needs instead of honoring there country and there family by putting country first. I’m sorry but I’ve been reading a lot of Thomas Paine the past few days, I was actually recommended it by a guy who comments on this site and I really have enjoyed it. “American crisis” is such a brilliant book that I had to read it twice. We don’t here the intellects of today speak the way they did in the 18th century. They were poetic and forthcoming in ways we haven’t heard in a really long time, we see it in movies and theater but never in the real world. WHY?
I can’t seem to figure out where we went wrong and how we got so messed up?
Whether we care to admit it, the average american is so messed up in there heads that we can be manipulated in every way shape and form. I know people will point to the fear aspect and the powers that be but I think it’s beyond that. We have expanded our knowledge in every way shape and form, we live longer, we have a greater understanding of how our body works, we have explored the hole world inside and out, we have it mapped and measured, and yet I feel Thomas Paine had a better understanding of the world then we do. UNBELIEVABLE how does the founding fathers have a greater understanding of the world then we do?
Doesn’t the future hold more knowledge then the past?
Personally I don’t get this fact at all and wish someone could shed some light on this because in all honesty I think that a person who lived in the 18th century has no business knowing more than I do today, and this fact is as confusing to me as anything else I have encountered.
October 4th, 2008 at 12:49 am
What would happen if no one Voted in this Predidential Election???
October 4th, 2008 at 1:34 am
I’ve been spending a lot of time looking into things lately. Probably a little too much time, actually. Anyway, as far as this election goes: I’m definitely voting Obama-Biden. Its a no-brainer. Just google “Sarah Palin Church Video” and it says it all. Scary stuff. There is a quote (i forget the author) that says: “When Fascism arrives in America, it will be carrying a cross and wrapped in a flag.” That is the definition of what Palin represents, and about 1/3 of our country eats it up and asks for seconds. But, as much as I support Obama in this election, I have to say my opinion of him has changed dramatically in the past week or so. This economic bailout is a fraud. Both sides are pushing it hard. Preaching fear. The Dem’s have actually been more supportive of the Bailout than the hated Republicans. Once again, I am absolutley for Obama-Biden, but we need to take a hard look at the 2-party system. When it comes down to what really matters (with fake family-values, global warming, and abortion aside) I see the two sides aren’t that much different. BOTH PARTIES ARE ANSWERING TO A POWER GREATER THAN US. Its been going on for longer than we’ve been alive. I’m sick of it and apparently feel the need to preach to my peers. Anyhow, sorry if I come across too heavy. I’m just a little worried about things and looking for some TRUTH. Lets all get together and have some drinks someday, Dave
October 4th, 2008 at 9:26 am
Noone should be putting a vote into the Democrat or Republican party if they hope to improve our country. This is not a horse race. Do you want a shit sandwich or do you want a turd burger? Wake up people, we have to break these habits right now.
October 4th, 2008 at 10:47 am
Some of you in here complain about others not doing anything, but blabbing. First of all, it will take a hell of a lot of Americans to stand up and fight this thing. Who the hell wants to go it alone and for sure get killed or thrown in jail, no one I know. And the people in this room know Americans are not standing up in enough numbers, so they come here and get some stress off their back, whats wrong with that? A few protestors is not going to do it, you have to have mass protesters. The next thing is how do you organize if you do have enough people, because these type of websites are monitered by those in power and will stop anything you try.
Let the people complain for God sakes, its better than a heart attack. I know the people in this room, most of them, would jump in a heart beat to protest if they thought they had a chance with a lot of backing from the American people, but the American public just isnt there yet and they may never get there.
October 4th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Hold the line till >>>>(–>OCT/14/08…………………
There just mite be help on it’s way.
If after this Date we have no Discloser from our friends then WE must as Citizens claim our RIGHTS BACK ((alone))..
Let LOVE guide your actions and let truth be your sword.
Brother’s & Sister’s our Children’s future is what’s at stake so WE MUST ((HOLD THE LINE))!!!!!
Remember to hold the one’s you love and be not afraid for Evil has lost the battle.
Respectfully
A VET who care’s ((((REMEMBER your OATH))))
October 4th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Ah, as I sit here and reminisce, I think back to those days that were before the world changed, when I was the desire of the Muslim men. They were willing to drench me in oil, pick me up in their private (or maybe chartered) jet and have a candlelit dinner under a moonlit night on a warm tropical beach set for me, but I thought that dollars were better and I would never meet any one of them.
Now? Now as I sit and reminisce, I realize that with what remains of the dollars I decided to stay with that it is time to use them to get back to reality since I now also realize that they only wanted me for my body. Now I do not have any oil nor a candlelit dinner with a man sitting so close to me whispering sweet nothings across the table to me as we look deeply into each other’s shiny eyes. I guess since I am here I will leave you with other messages of a more on-topic nature.
The good ‘ol FUN days when men would escort me (or desire to have me escort them–hehe),
Rhonda
PS: Yes, life has changed!
October 4th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
All right. Looking at things logically in the “war” for our minds, it seems that we are not growing fast enough in equivalent to “them” coming out with all these laws, rules, regulations, threats, and upscaled brutality. There are still so many people to “wake up”, but I see there is one thing that will get the people to muster together to the point of believing people like this group who bravely met and had their “down with the regime” conference.
Most people say here and some have even called into Alex Jones’ radio show to say that they are having such a hard time getting others to believe the “truth” stories. Yes, many have “awakened”, but percentage-wise, it is small. There is only one thing that will snap all the nation’s people to finally “get it”, where people who are like this brave group and those handing out “truth” DVD’s or flyers, will be able to be listened to almost immediately. That one thing might happen in the next 40 days or maybe an additional 75 days or so. It was said here by others and has been spoken about for years, starting from the Clinton era before he left office.
The only thing that will snap the entire country into “awakefulness” or realization of the “truth”, is to have Marshal Law to stop either the presidential election somehow or to stop the transfer of power over to the president elect. All other Constitutional laws have been broken by this regime and the people have accepted it, but it seems that they want to have the Constitutional election. So what we need is to have that Marshal Law which seems to be the only thing that the people are saying that they will accept for stopping an election by the Constitution.
If the election or transition of power is done, then I would tend to believe that we really are in trouble because no one would transfer power, which technically is the same thing as giving oneself up to the authorities for crimes committed, unless that person(s) was assured of a safe haven and if a safe haven is available, that means that whomever is taking over the power position would be condoning all crimes committed and therefore would be just as bad as this regime. That allowance of the transfer of power would then obviously be done for a facade, to help fool the people, making it look like “CHANGE” actually is happening, when it would not be.
MARSHAL LAW (or the stoppage of the presidential CHANGEover) IS OUR SAVIOR that will gather the people together in one fell swoop that is not happening now,
Rhonda
October 4th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
The usual people who started and ran the Money Bombs for both Ron Paul and I believe did for Alex Jones also, are now attempting to run one for a chosen third party candidate if they get enough signed up backers. Now that a candidate seems to have become the most preferred, I recommend going to this website………
http://www.thirdpartyticket.com/
It is called “Third Party Ticket”. This is the central point at this time, even though it was not known that it would be because of Dr. Paul’s Chuck Baldwin endorsement since it recently started, that will get anything as a group that is organized done. Go there and read about it and become part of it. Tnx.
Rhonda
October 4th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
someone posted did anyone notice how the globalist left their stamp on the financial 9/11
171-263 HOUSE BAILOUT VOTES
1+7+1=9 2+6+3=11
not very subtle
October 4th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
JOHN 14:1 let not your heart be troubled……you believe God…..believe also in me….In my fathers house are many mansions…..if it were not so i would of told you…..i go and prepare a place for you……and if i go and prepare a place for you…..i will come again and receive you to myself….that where I am….there you may be also……
October 4th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
I understand that our congress passed this law under duress. If this is the case there is no law since actions performed under duress are not valid. It is time that the citizens just say no. What are they going to do with 150 million people who refuse to comply with laws. It would be like a child’s game where no potential participants will participate, there would be no game. The only problem is that too many of our citizens cowards and want the others to carry the load. We need to be very vocal and communicate the need for unity and action to others. I remember when the longshoremen could shut this country down where is this type of unity. We do not need to be paying someone to organize us to act for our own good, we just need to be thinking people who are determined to maintain our freedom.
October 4th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
I say it’s time to hit them where it hurts! Boycott all major stores, fuel, drug companies. Stop watching their propaganda News stations. Don’t buy their lying newspapers. One more thing, If everyone in America took Monday off work the fat cats would lose their shirts
October 4th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Effective strategy to clean congress
http://www.tenurecorrupts.com
October 4th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
And just last week I was all happy thinkin this congress did something for the people, oh well, guess you just live and learn. Hahahahahahahahaha on me!Just turned 51 a couple weeks ago and I thought for the first time, this congresssssssss would do the right thing, who was I kidding?
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October 4th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
wOw!!VERITAS144K, I JUST WENT TO YOUR SITE, GOOD STUFF BRO!
October 4th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
#90 Your right alot of us would do something if we could, but I know exactly what would happen if we did something now. I beleive in the NWO and in the police state and dont agree with either. I’m a Police Officer yes thats right some of us are not brainwashed! We know whats going on, but we are outnumbered by the boot thumping fascist police! Please know that your not alone in this fight for the U.S. Constitution and or heritage. We are waking up!
October 4th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
Godspeed patriot.
October 5th, 2008 at 2:46 am
The way things in the country are going right now (the bailout, the failing economy, etc.) are going to influence the people into thinking that democracy is failing, therefore they will demand a new form of government, which could eventually lead the the formation of the North American Union. They have done nothing except taking our rights one by one since 9/11 (ex: The Patriot Act). Democracy will end on a bad note, and a one world government will not be forced upon, but demanded by the people. The perfect plan is going swell, and the public is falling for it every day by listening to the fear campaign that is today’s news. Seriously, when was the last time you ever heard about anything good happening on the news? You always hear about new scares, such as diseases in produce, toy recalls, nuclear programs in other countries, etc. They’re playing with your head to keep you from realizing that they are taking over this place one country at a time. Search NWO, ILLUMINATI, NORTH AMERICAN UNION, VERICHIP, or OPERATION NORTHWOODS on wikipedia. It could make you think a little different about some stuff. Also look up LOOSE CHANGE and ZEITGEIST on youtube or google. hmm..
October 5th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
>:o!!!! religion!! >:o!!!!!!! shut up with the tard speak about jesus and kingdoms of god and otehr bs >:o
October 5th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Let’s focus on the middle class. Don’t worry we will only raise your school loan payments and minimal interest payments on your credit cards. No Troops will come to take your house or car within a year. Just the local sheriff/cops with apiece of paper-no no don’t argue,or they’ll taze you bro, thats resisting arrest. Don’t fight back or they may just shoot yah. Our future is like that video game Half Life or Deus Ex.-Great if you got unlimited ammo and a super suit. We’re fckd.
October 5th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
HEY SWAN, MOTHERFUCKER, HOW ABOUT I GANK YOUR FUCKING ASS FUCKING ‘NAM STYLE.
YOU’RE GOING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE, EVERYONE COMPLICIT IN THIS CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE HUMAN SPIRIT, AGAINST TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCE.
VOTE INDEPENDENT, VOTE THIRD PARTY.
Fuck your military and law enforcement, There are good apples and people that got in there because they had no other choice, but for all the dirty evil jock asshole soldiers or cops, Screw you, Bust your teeth out any day, because I stand and I strike like a coiled snake for Liberty.
Screw your insurance salesmen agents, screw your fucking sheriffs and corrupt ass judges that play hide the rabbit with the state, evil fucking bankers and shit. Jesus would have grabbed a fucking bullwhip and would start beating and lashing your ass with it, and I would too. So stay the fuck out of our sight with your shit because we outnumber you 3000000 to fucking one and guess what we dont give a fuck what kind of fucking weapons you paid trillions of dollars to develop, EAT OUR FUCKING SHIT, WE WILL STOMP YOU OUT LIKE FUCKING ROACHES. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE. YOU WILL COME TO FEAR OUR MOVEMENT, BECAUSE OUR MOVEMENT IS LOVE, AND IT CAN NOT BE CONQUERED.
illuminati/jesuit/club of rome/CFR/bankers/money changers, whatever scumfuck profession you are, if you’re reading this, fuck yourself, come out against the sheer oppression against progress of the human race, eat a bullet or testify about the lies, do fucking something besides sucking Satans scaley black fucking pecker. Long live Freedom of Speech!
October 6th, 2008 at 10:08 am
“We must all hang together or we shall surely hang separately.” Benjamin Franklin