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House votes against $700 billion rescue package
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Ruth Mantell & Steve Gelsi
MarketWatch
September 29, 2008
WASHINGTON — House lawmakers voted 205 to 228 Monday against approving the historic $700 billion financial rescue plan, a sharp blow to the administration and bipartisan rallying efforts from leaders in Congress who warn that the country is on the brink of an economic precipice.
With elections approaching, some lawmakers — both Democrats and Republicans — may feel nervous about voting for a plan that risks so much taxpayer money and can’t promise success. But the president has lobbied hard to approve the plan, and U.S. officials also have stressed the dire consequences of taking no action.
Critics say the plan does not adequately address problems such as job losses and a distressed housing market that underlie current economic weakness. U.S. officials had hoped the plan would ease the credit crunch and restore confidence in the markets, even as markets plunged around the world. Those in favor of the rescue plan may have been trying to treat the most manageable symptom — a frozen credit market — if not the actual disease.
A vote in the Senate was expected Wednesday, and the president would have followed with a speedy signature.
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Earlier Monday, doubt emerged over whether enough representatives would vote in favor of the plan and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi appealed to colleagues in the early afternoon, stressing that representatives will continue to monitor financial issues and pursue additional strategies. She said it’s imperative that the measure on the floor receives bipartisan support.
“That is the only message that will send a message of confidence to the markets,” Pelosi said.
Colleagues applauded after appeals for bipartisan agreement on the rescue plan from Rep. John Boehner, House minority leader, and Rep. Barney Frank, chairman of the financial-services committee.
The risk of not acting is much higher than the risk of acting, according to Boehner.
“I didn’t come here to vote for bills like this. Let me tell you this: I believe Congress has to act and that means each and everyone of use,” he said.
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September 29th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Actually, CNN, CTV and CBC are all reporting that this measure passed this morning
Did it pass or did it fail?
September 29th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
OOOPS! I stand corrected, these sites just announced the rejection after portraying all morning that it was a ‘done deal with some modifications’
Fling open the windows of the tower of Wall street and let it rain bankers!
September 29th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Victory?
September 29th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Congress still has the the power. Or, this is an elaborate show.
September 29th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
It failed to pass… Funny how the media was so certain the bill would pass. I guess the teleprompter gave them bad intelligence.
I’m still disappointed in prisonplanet forums. SANE/ROCK is a bad moderator and continues to ban everyone he dislikes…
September 29th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Meh it’s a half way victory.
Good news, they’re not doing it now.
Bad news, this means the banks going under and people going out of work (chances are) as well as the continuing fall.
Some would argue that they could spend the money better and I agree.
While others would say that you may be giving up your money but hey least the economy stands a little better.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
The vote is a victory for the American people and the progressive movement in both major parties. That’s the good news.
The bad news that it gives the events that could happen in this crisis more of an opportunity to happen. That includes the possibility Bush could use PDD-51. We won, but we might pay very dearly for the win.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
The Feds knew it would fail, that’s why they’ve been pumping into world banks approximately 580B in new money that will basically do the same thing, drive up inflation. This was an end game play, it was just done by a wide receiver versus the quarterback.
We’re still f**ked!!
September 29th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
I WILL SAY IT AGAIN AND AGAIN. TROUBLE IS BREWING IN THE GOOD OLD USA. THE BUSH FAMILY WILL TAKE THERE DIRTY MONEY AND HEAD FOR THE HILLS. BRING ON THE AMERO PLEASE AND THANK YOU.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
LET THE GOVT. FEAR THE PEOPLE!
September 29th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
By a matter of 23 votes. We still have a tough battle. These NWO freaks don’t give up. They have to knocked out, permanently!
September 29th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Don’t worry people, it will pass. They will be told to pass it or else….
Pass or no pass either way we are all screwed and we know it.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
“;;;;” corporate controlled media
September 29th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
I hope their biggest concern is not to let Paulson have unmonitored jurisdiction over taxpayer money.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
I watched it all on CSPAN today and let me tell you, I was cheering on the NAYS (during the 40+ minutes of voting) harder than any football game I have ever watched. I made a list of all the Reps that rose in opposition to HR3997.
Lynn Woosley D-Cal
Thaddeus McCotter R- Michigan
Jeb Hensarling R-Texas
John Culberson R-Texas
Lloyd Doggett D-Texas
Mike Pence R-Indiana
Paul Broun R- Georgia
Brad Sherman D-Cal
Gresham Barrett R-S. Car
Lynn Westmoreland R- Georgia
Ron Paul R-Texas
Barbara Lee D-Cal
Virgil Goode R-Va
Ted Poe R-Texas
Judy Biggert R-Illinois
Peter DeFazio D-Oregon
Darrell Issa R-Cal
Scott Garrett R-NJ
Jeff Miller R-FLA
Jeff Flake R-Arizona
Earl Blemenaur D-Oregon
Louie Gohmert R-Texas
Carolyn Kilpatrick D-Michigan
Jeff Fortenberry R-NE
Todd Akin R-Missouri
Ginny Brown-Waite R-FLA
Marcy Kaptur D-Ohio
Steven LaTourette R-Ohio
Michelle Bachman R-Minnesota
Dennis Kucinich D-Ohio
Todd Tiahart R-Kansas
Timothy Murphy R- Penn
John Shadegg R-Arizona
Marilyn Musgrave R-Colorado
….and I am not sure if Sheila Jackson Lee (D- Texas) was for or against it but she seemed to be against it.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
I agree with Jaylan. The Fed just pumped $650 billion into the markets, so it doesn’t really matter if this bailout vote failed, the outcome is just the same.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Hurrah for the House !!!!!!!~
No one wants to further devalue the dollar. This is much more destructive than a 15 % or so stock market correction.
We are all alive and Warren Buffet and George Bush can kiss my arse.
We needed to spit in the power-brokers face and democracy lives….Cheers to that…..
Mrs. Pelosi is a political corpse. The Queen is dead…Long live the United States of America.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
thank you Thom Daniels for that list! that’s very helpful!
September 29th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
We need to get an email list of our elected officials who stood up and did the right thing; thank them for what they did today, and encourage them to stick to their guns.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Great Job#15!!
I watched it too and it was amazing.
My Texas Rep. made me proud today!!
I think California had second most votes against the bill too.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
doomed either way… wait until the markets react to this in the coming week! we could see markets fall intensely tomorrow! Bush stated that this ‘rescue package’ was necessary for the markets to stay afloat, the decision to reject this ‘bailout’ ensures that the big crash will loom closer with each day that follows. The idiot yuppies will truly believe that the economy is completely doomed because this ‘bailout’ was going to prevent a crash. This is going to cause a lot of panic!
I thought the elite would make sure this was passed, and then in a few months have Bush say that the administration has done everything possible to avert a crash (such as injecting trillions into the market). Somewhat surprising move. There could be another black tuesday tomorrow!
Possibly not, but expect panic. The propoganda they have created around this ‘rescue plan’ is incredible, they have also stressed that the markets won’t survive without this… rejection of this bill will cause widespread panic, this could be the final catalyst in the destruction of hope in the economy!
September 29th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Ron Paul had two minutes and he was more aggressive than I have ever seen him…
Thaddeus McCotter gave a real good speech too
Is it just me or does Barney Frank seem like Otis the Drunk from the old Andy Griffith Show?
September 29th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
yessir! America is a sleeping giant and I think she just got woke up!
September 29th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
I’m glad the 228 members of the house stood up against this bill. It’s a soviet style bill of death and hell.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
remember the Joker’s line in Batman…”This town needs an enema”
Well this country needs one and the rejection of HR3997 could be the rubber hose being inserted!
September 29th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good work everyone! Keep fighting & telling those crooks where to shove their bill! HA HA. Let’s watch them get raped instead of us. Stupid b*****s!
September 29th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
“All HAIL Thermal Expansion!!!!” JHFC finally something POSITIVE!!!!!!!! What are they thinking????????? Positive Politics???? In the words of “BENDER”…”We’re Boned!!!” “All HAIL Thermal Expansion!!!!”
September 29th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
FOX News saying the House may stay in session today…this isn’t over yet.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
The market dropped as soon as the gavel fell…..the talking heads are predicting all kinds of gloom and doom in the coming days…
The roof ,the roof , the roof is on fire…we don’t need no water, let the mother fucker burn…burn mother fucker, burn!
September 29th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
they can control media but they cannot control are right to bear arms and gunfire. youthink the amrican people are just going to lay down and become a slave and die? Ha haha wait until they start firing on the public, and guess what will be next? A CIVIL WAR OF ALL WARS. Thats what they are asking for. Then dammit thats what they will get. The rest of you can laydown and become slaves because when it comes down to it, there are alot yellow bellied chicken shits that wont stand up for there rights and they can be the casualty’s, i will be a patriot.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
..and the DOW was down 722 just a moment ago.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
ive got to go to walmart and tock up on some more ammo, hahaha.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Hey Thom thanks for the list of patroits..
It figures pony-boy Jim Costa fucked himself for November.
His portague ass is fuckin’ toast in November over this vote.
The dollar increased 2.50 euro today.
Fuck it..Life goes on. Stocks go down and up…. remember to breathe…
September 29th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
#21 Thanks…
I was hoping to see my Texas rep..Brady rise up in opposition but he didn’t. I need to find out how he voted so I can either praise him or make a huge sign to put out by the highway informing the thousands that drive by my house every day how he voted…..
September 29th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
This is just another step in the Iperialistic Movement the elite banking heads have in place….. The bait has been set and we all took it…… How is it that no one researches history and go back to 1913 when the Federal Reserve was fradulently created….. The Federal Reserve is as much Federal as FEDERAL EXPRESS…… It’s a privately help Corporation- the largest one of it’s kind an d they control the money……… This is just a smoke screen to throw attention off what will really happen….. WE ALL NEED TO TAKE OUR LIFE BACK AND GET MAD AS HELL FOR ALL THE THINGS THEY ARE DOING TO US WORLD WIDE, NOT JUST HERE IN THE NAME OF MONEY, POWER, AND GREED….. TAKE YOUR RIGHT BACK TO BE FREE AND LIVE OUT YOUR LIFE IN PEACE AND PROSPERITY……..
September 29th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
To our Congressmen and Congresswomen,
For the members of the House of Representatives that voted AGAINST the Bill to bail out the Elite Criminals: Congratulations for finally standing up for the American People!!
For the members of the House of Representatives that voted FOR the Criminal Bailout including Nancy Palosi: YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF! Why are you still catering to the Criminal Elite when the majority of Americans know that this Bill created by the Head Banksters who created this mess in the first place? Don’t you know that you are AIDING AND ENBEDDING CRIMINALS which makes you an accessory to their FINANCIAL CRIMES? You will go down in History as being part of Demonic Movement that Lied, Stole and Deceived the American People.
To the Banksters manipulating the Stock Market today. Good Luck, you are going to need it. Some of us are so happy that Congress Voted for Liberty, and NOT Criminal Corruption that we actually bought into the Stock Market today.You IDIOTS just don’t get it, do you?
There is NO WAY that you can use your “Deceptive Magic” on the American People any longer.
Peace, Liberty, Freedom, and Justice for ALL.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
#38 http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll674.xml
September 29th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
you can get the list from http://www.ronpaul2008.com then you can look up your state officials and call the on the phone! it’s easy- i just called the 8 reps. here in WA! Talked to someone in their office each time. if they voted no- i said thanks! if yes- i said they should be ashamed and told them I would be canvassing against them next time!
September 29th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
#38 He voted “aye.” http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll674.xml
September 29th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
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- The survival and prosperity of this vicious hoax on humanity requires only ONE thing- A LACK OF KNOWLEDGE!
September 29th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Great victory, but this will probably move Bush to attack Iran. We’re going into a Depression for sure now and really SOON. So everyone still prepare by storing food and water. America is headed for third world status. Things will really move quicker downward in the markets and many of our main streets banks will freeze credit and end up going bankrupt. Times are going to get really serious really quick here.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
WE ALL NEED TO ARM OUR SELVES AND PREPARE TO TAKE OUR LIFE BACK………… We all matter we all have the right to a life and we all have the right to be free here and all over the world……. We must end this financial fascism that is corrupting everything….
September 29th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Fukin….A…………………About time those assholes started listening to the voters….Impeach every god damn one of them that voted in favor of this massive rip-off….And most of all fuck that heifer Pelosi!
September 29th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
I am very pleased to see that there are actually members of the House that still care for the average American over the criminal wall street executives.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
AMERICA HERE COMES THE WRATH GOD! DEUTERONOMY 28:1-24 TURN FROM YOUR SINS REPENT AND ASK GOD TO SAVE YOU! WE HAVE TURNED ARE BACK ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST THE ONE WHO BLESSED THIS GREAT NATION,WE HAVE LET FAGGOTS, TAKE CONTROL WE VOTED HIM OUT EVERY THING SCHOOL ARE LIVES WE KILL 1.5 MILLION KIDS A DAY WITH ABORTION SO TURN OR BURN.THANK GOD IAM SAVED. OBAMA WILL RUSH IN THE NEW WORLD ORDER AND GIVE EVERY THING TO THE ANTICHRIST.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
This is evidence of how the order’s middle men are now beating the crap out of each other. This is what happens when you bail out some and screw others. There is a revolt and the paradigm’s power structure is fractured.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
I am truly thankful to those 228 Representatives who listend to their constituancies, the independent economists, and their integrity. Those 205 Representatives who voted for this scam, as well as everyone else in public office who supported it, need to be driven from office. I cannot find a posting of who voted “yay” regarding this yet, but if either of the Senators or my districts Representative representing the state of Kansas voted yay, I will campaign for and donate funds to the candidates running against that incumbent with as much effort and determination as I put into Ron Pauls campaign, which was substantial. Get ready for hard times? Were already there, I know it will get worse but Im ready to make sacrifices to put this dismal chapter in our nations history behind us. Just like birth is painful but leads to a new beginning, I see this as an opportunity to expose alot of things in this country for what they really are, beneath the propaganda and lies, and to wake alot of people up. I will sacrafice everything for the republic, but I refuse to give an inch to the nazi bankining cunts who thought they could hold us hostage to their illegal and immoral self serving demands. FUCK THEM.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Meanwhile, from the NY SUN
Spies Warn That Al Qaeda Aims for October Surprise
America’s counterterrorism community is warning that Al Qaeda may launch more overseas operations to influence the presidential elections in November.
Call it Osama bin Laden’s “October surprise.” In late August, during the weekend between the Democratic and Republican conventions, America’s military and intelligence agencies intercepted a series of messages from Al Qaeda’s leadership to intermediate members of the organization asking local cells to be prepared for imminent instructions.
An official familiar with the new intelligence said the message was picked up in multiple settings, from couriers to encrypted electronic communications to other means. “These are generic orders,” the source said — a distinction from the more specific intelligence about the location, time, and method of an attack. “It was, ‘Be on notice. We may call upon you soon.’ It was sent out on many channels.”
This should be headlining infowars
September 29th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
All i can say is thank you. I cannot believe that for once PEOPLE POWER has made a difference.. Remember however what they did in Europe. The European constitution was thrown out by the people and then it was re-worded and represented until it was accepted.
The BATTLE IS WON FOR TWO OR THREE DAYS MAXIMUM
they will redraft it and represent it. We must all keep the pressure up!
What a day to be alive!
September 29th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
All this bill will probably do anyway is let the rich keep all their cash. while the rest of us will only be left with CAKE.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Thank God it was DEFEATED… now….ABOUT IMPEACHMENT…hmmmm..WAKE UP …PLEASE ….
September 29th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
NOV 5 VOTE ALL THESE CRETINS OUT INCLUDING THE BISEXUAL , crack pipe smoking,OBAMA AND THE CRETINUS, REPUBLICAN RELIC WITH HIS EMBARASSING BARBIE DOLL RUNNING MATE, VOTE FOR SOMEONE INDEPENDANT
September 29th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Does anyone have an email list of Congressmen/Congresswomen who took a stand and voted against the Bailout? We need to mass email them, thank them for taking a stand, and encourage them to stick to their guns.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
I just forgot to say in my last post :—-
Thank you for all the members that listened to their constituents.
Thank you for taking what must of been enormous pressure.
And most of all thank you for being HONEST POLITICIANS
There DOW has not crashed, for a crash there has to be 10% drop its at 5% and closing in 5 mins
I think the administration was trying to scare us.
Thank you again AND AGAIN …. for your honest REPRESENTATION of the people
September 29th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Call all your Congressmen/women and plead with them. Let them know that if they do stand their ground, that “insider trading” as Alex Jones reported will crash the stocks to force them to vote. Tell them to stand firm, stand firm. If they know what will come, it won’t shock them. We have to weather this storm now, than delay it for a worse death blow to come. Americans are use to escaping suffering. Let us suffer now to preserve ourselves. Our running from hard times will be our undoing.
September 29th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Found this link; shows who voted for and against the Bailout; now we just need to put together an email list, and start mass emailing both factions. Thank and encourage those who took a stand today to stick to their guns, and try and sway those who voted for the Bailout to change their vote when it comes back up.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll674.xml
September 29th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
thanks for the link and Brady is definitely going to hear it from me and my sign will be out on the side of the highway tomorrow morning.
Anyone near Conroe TX, Congressional District 8, take a ride out HWY 105, east from Conroe and see the sign I am putting out…..
September 29th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
NAYS 228
Abercrombie
Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Altmire
Baca
Bachmann
Barrett (SC)
Barrow
Bartlett (MD)
Barton (TX)
Becerra
Berkley
Biggert
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bishop (UT)
Blackburn
Blumenauer
Boustany
Boyda (KS)
Braley (IA)
Broun (GA)
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Buchanan
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Butterfield
Buyer
Capito
Carney
Carson
Carter
Castor
Cazayoux
Chabot
Chandler
Childers
Clay
Cleaver
Coble
Conaway
Conyers
Costello
Courtney
Cuellar
Culberson
Cummings
Davis (KY)
Davis, David
Davis, Lincoln
Deal (GA)
DeFazio
Delahunt
Dent
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Doggett
Doolittle
Drake
Duncan
Edwards (MD)
English (PA)
Fallin
Feeney
Filner
Flake
Forbes
Fortenberry
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Garrett (NJ)
Gerlach
Giffords
Gillibrand
Gingrey
Gohmert
Goode
Goodlatte
Graves
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Hall (TX)
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Heller
Hensarling
Herseth Sandlin
Hill
Hinchey
Hirono
Hodes
Hoekstra
Holden
Hulshof
Hunter
Inslee
Issa
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jefferson
Johnson (GA)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, Sam
Jones (NC)
Jordan
Kagen
Kaptur
Keller
Kilpatrick
King (IA)
Kingston
Knollenberg
Kucinich
Kuhl (NY)
Lamborn
Lampson
Latham
LaTourette
Latta
Lee
Lewis (GA)
Linder
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Lucas
Lynch
Mack
Manzullo
Marchant
Matheson
McCarthy (CA)
McCaul (TX)
McCotter
McHenry
McIntyre
McMorris Rodgers
Mica
Michaud
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Mitchell
Moran (KS)
Murphy, Tim
Musgrave
Myrick
Napolitano
Neugebauer
Nunes
Ortiz
Pascrell
Pastor
Paul
Payne
Pearce
Pence
Peterson (MN)
Petri
Pitts
Platts
Poe
Price (GA)
Ramstad
Rehberg
Reichert
Renzi
Rodriguez
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Royce
Rush
Salazar
Sali
Sánchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Scalise
Schiff
Schmidt
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Sensenbrenner
Serrano
Shadegg
Shea-Porter
Sherman
Shimkus
Shuler
Shuster
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Solis
Stark
Stearns
Stupak
Sullivan
Sutton
Taylor
Terry
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Tiberi
Tierney
Turner
Udall (CO)
Udall (NM)
Visclosky
Walberg
Walz (MN)
Wamp
Watson
Welch (VT)
Westmoreland
Whitfield (KY)
Wittman (VA)
Woolsey
Wu
Yarmuth
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
September 29th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
I just called my state districts representative in the House, Nancy Boyda, and found out that she voted against the bailout scam. I even received information on how I can help her campaign, which is odd because I am a lifelong Republican, but her integrity on this massive matter proves to me she deserves support. I urge all of you to do the same, contact you states representative in the House for you district and find out how they voted, and contact them with your thoughts. Thats what they are there for. Somebody please post the voting record on this bill.
September 29th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
they’ll get back to passing this after the “jewish” ROSH HASHANAH holiday…what country are we in???
September 29th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
The will back up.. regroup.. and try to repass the bill.. shift a word or two around.. put it in a “rider”.. push it back toward the FED and then the FED pushes it back on Congress… they are all trying to either get what they want(the FED wants money/ The Legislator wants to stay in offfice) but no one wants the responsibility of doing the deed.. The FED really odesn’tcare..It is not elected.. it IS private and has no obligation to anyone excpet those who own it…
Thos who own the FED have money INVESTED in bankds… and there is where the accountability connects… The shareholder of finacial institutions cannot hold the US citizen accountable for their errors in investing.. but if the banks fail.. then the FED is exposed for what it is.. and the families who own the FED have to figure out a way to keep their power …
This is literally a “Tragedy of the Commons” situation…
I maintain.. let the system shut down.. it is time for an “oil change”.. and replace the old oil with the brand I want to use instead of letting the dealer have the option….
Shut down the IRS and the FED is 50% gone… SHut down the FED and the economy if guided by the people will recover in time.. The citizen is going to suffer either way… the option now.. do I want to die a slow death on their plan.. or suffer the disease withdrawal and gain my own means back….
The FED is the disease.. the economy is the symptom
September 29th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
I hate..No I don’t hate to say it..
Some people who post on here have to have “Jew” thoughts as if their miserable lives are as screwed up as they can be by the very fact there are Jews on the earth… Who the hell will you blame if you had your wish and killed every Jew alive tomorrow?.. The same person that has you in the screwed up situation you are now.. YOUR DAMN SELF…
You wake up Jew, you spew “Jew”, you lay down “Jew” , you probably dream “Jew” and the food you eat tastes like “Jew”…
If you get right down to it… everybody is a Jew by the religion theory…
I am not Jewish,…… But I am NOT so damn narrow minded and stupid that I spend every waking moment trying to blame every mistake in the world on a Jew….
I have served in the military with “Jews” and I have been to Israel in mytravels 3 times… and honestly.. I don’t think those who spew “Jew” would know one if the Jew crawled down their throats.. And honestly..If I were in a situation around a group of people who were focused on such hate..I would no doubt begin to wonder if it wouldn’t be “me” next when they got their wwish and killed every Jew…. In fact.. if forced into a “like minded group” who spoke openly of such hatred toward one people..I would probably havd a plan in the back of my mind to try and kill such ignorant racist bastards before they got a chnace to really start thinking about killing me…
Now..I am done.. If I wanted to be around ape minds.. I would hang out in a zoo.. ..Hell.. You probably figure the apes are Jews too…
Who raised people to hate so much?
September 29th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
200 to 1 phone calls and emails AGAINST the crime of bailout. The media is pumping up the scare with a renewed round of falling sky experts.
Why is our congress getting the day off for a Jewish Holiday if the sky is falling. They sure have not taken the last three Sundays off, which are all Christian Holy-days????? I say, let congress go home and the ones who voted for this criminal bill can stay there!!
This is far from over, but it is a nice day for me, maybe, just maybe the voice of the real masters, the PEOPLE, were listened to, for now.
September 29th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
DEMOCRATS ARE GUILTY AND GEORGE W. BUSH IS ON THEIR SIDE BECAUSE HE IS A NEO-CON. THE ONLY REASON THE BAILOUT WAS DEFEATED TODAY WAS BECAUSE OF THE REPUBLICANS… WATCH THIS VIDEO AND EDUCATE YOURSELF: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs
September 29th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
It’s a symbolic victory for the people. It shows the mood of the country.
And I think it means the government will now crank it up a notch or two.
The next few weeks and months will be very interesting.
September 29th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
55 jamez Says: at 2:50 pm: Remember however what they did in Europe. The European constitution was thrown out by the people and then it was re-worded and represented until it was accepted.
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It hasn’t been accepted still, get your facts straight. The EU constitution is still not ratified; it was postponed as Netherlands and France voted against through a people’s referendum. I’m proud to be Dutch! They will reconsider sometime next year 2009 when election for the EU will get underway. Hopefully we can slaughter their plans yet again through a referendum…
Good news anyway for the US and the world. The bail-out plan wouldn’t have bailed out anyone but the large bonus grabbin’ gamblers, who would flee the country like rats after collecting anyway. The people will have to pay one way or another. Maybe a little sooner, but we all have to bite through the sour apple anyway, as we say in Holland, if we want to ever clean up the mess and heal the economies of the world as much as possible.
Oh, and PS: to anyone using this: please stop with your nonsensical inane bible bullshit please. It’s off-putting and tiring on many of these kinds of forums, and takes away from intelligent conversations in between. Let’s talk facts instead of personal ferry tales, the world is based on reality, and so are the paths to get out of this mess.
September 29th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
The media is reeling over this, they are all but saying, “the american people are too stupid to see what this means, and if they do not bail out wall street, they will suffer!!”
Sorry, daddy media, our suffering is not the issue. This life is not just supposed to be, serve your master race and we will make everything bread and enterntainment for you. Wall street is scared because they live the high life and do not have to labor for it.
BURN IT DOWN!!!
September 29th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
comment number 71 you are right and you are wrong, right on the democrats and wrong on the democrats. I wil repeat my statement, “RIGHT ON THE DEMOCRATS AND WRONG ON THE DEMOCRATS”. RIGHT A CERTAIN FEW THAT ARE BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY LOBBYIST AND AS REPUBLICANS ARE BOUGHT AND PAID FOR LOBBYIST, WRONG THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS WHO STOOD UP AGAINST THAT BULLSHIT. THEY ARE ALL THE SAME EVIL, ALL THE SAME, EEEEVVVVIIILLL.
aS SOO AS YOU CUT THE HEAD OFF THE FEDERAL RESERVE KNOWN AS ” PRIVATE BANKERS” AND REMOVE OUR DICTATOR PRESIDENT WHO IS A WAR CRIMINAL ALONG WITH THAT FAT FUCKING PIG CHENE AND ARREST THAT STUPID BITCH PELOSI FOR CONSPIRACY AND ACCESSORY TO MURDER ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THEN MY FRIEND WE WILL HAVE A SAFER COUNTRY. IT DONT GET NO CLEARER THAN THAT,
THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS THINK THEY CAN KEEP US UNDER CONTROL, HELL THOSE FUCKING IDIOTS CANT EVEN KEEP THE PEOPLE 3RD WORLD IRAQ UNDER CONTROL. WHEN THIS COUNTRY BURNS WE WILL PRVAIL AS PATRIOTS BECUASE THEY WILL NOT WIN. THE NWO IS FUCKING FINISHED IF THEY START WAR ON US. I FUCKEN DARE ALL OF. THOSE FAT FUCKEN PIG BANKERS, WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
September 29th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Fed Pumps Further $630 Billion Into Financial System
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/.....refer=home
September 29th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Actually, this whole ’staged’ (IMO) crisis could have been an attempt to bypass the electorate. Consider McCain’s foolish attempt to ’stall’ the campaign? If successful, would this have led to a ‘postponement’ of the election itself? And if the election is postponed, does this mean that GWB is still the defacto President? Beyond his undeserved 8 years? In violation of U.S. Law?
I always was suspicious that SOME attempt would be made to keep GWB in power. He is the perfect representative for the illuminati as they want a One World Order that is distinctly NOT about individual freedoms and liberties. GWB has done nothing but make really stupid decisions and start unrequired wars in far away lands and as a result, the reputation and global standing of the USA today is a shadow of what it was before GWB took office. One of the documents I read about this conspiracy spoke of the reduction of the USA from superpower status as a country based on individual rights and freedoms and the second ammendment is very hard to control don’t you think?
Poor decisions, bad wars, financial meltdowns and all the time the call goes up that ‘Free Enterprise is a failure’, ‘Democracy doesn’t work’. All designed to make America more susceptible to a form of corporate facism or even communism that the illuminati are in favour of.
Fight the trend, what happened today seems a good thing on the surface, but we must wait to see what kind of ‘deals’ are hatched as a result of this deal failing to be sure of victory. If the markets are left to their own devices, then good, if not, we are in some pretty trouble for sure.
September 29th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
This situation has been looming overhead for some time and I, for one, am happy that the corrupt system has been shaken up. I would love to see some responsible Ron Paul types take charge and restore a gold standard. I also believe that the crooks who created this mess should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Perhaps the Dems will stop loaning money to people based on minority status and loan to those who have proven themselves responsible and who have an adequate income to begin with. Thanks Carter and Clinton for you ignorant policies. I hope you both rot in hell.
September 29th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!
September 29th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Remember: Both presidential nominees were in favor of this bail out.
September 29th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
LET WALL STREET BURN, BUT LET THE AMERICAN PEOPLE REDISCOVER THEIR POWER! ONWARD!
September 29th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
So when do we get our “Ameros”……..?
Isn’t that the whole point of this insane bailout bill bullshyt…..to dry us up and make us enslaved to the New World Order….get chipped and FINALLY get our nice newly minted AMEROS…..?
September 29th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
I am sure that Pelosi, Pauson, Bernake, Bush and the entire crew have their private jets on standby to fly right the PHUCK out of the country when they get the word that “IT’S OVER”…..
I am confident that their bags are packed and ready to go….Maybe the Maldive Islands, Canary Islands or some place like that….
They are all puppets. Most Americans will learn sooner or later. So glad to know that like many of you, we found out way in advance what was going on. May our Lord bless Alex and his family for enduring the good fight and making it a mission to simply warn us………
September 29th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
A picture tells a thousand words… u r gonna love this one.. just a photo..
http://mobiusinformer.wordpres.....it-all-up/
September 29th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
What happens tomorrow, or next week…I’ll deal with that when it happens. As for today, I am a happy camper. The bailout was rejected, albeit, for the time being, but it sent a good message to the American people and the world. Piss on this all you want but in a war, you have to enjoy each and every victory, every battle won, because the battle that looms tomorrow may be lost. Planned or not, I am very excited about this and will savor it. Everyone I have talked to (other than the ones poo-pooing it on this forum) are happy about the vote. The people did not want this bail-out and 228 members of the House served the people today, rather than the banksters. Whatever comes around the corner, today is a good day.
September 29th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Well said Thom, Today is a good day!
-Everyone, Call your Senators! Bug the sh–t out of ‘em! Because if you won’t stand up for something You’ll lay down for anything.
September 29th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
All right. Looking at things logically in the “war” for our minds, it seems that we are not growing fast enough in equivalent to “them” coming out with all these laws, rules, regulations, and upscaled brutality. There are still so many people to “waken up”, but I see there is one thing that will get the people to muster together to the point of believing people like this group who bravely met and had their “down with the regime” conference.
Most people say here and some have even called into Alex Jones’ radio show to say that they are having such a hard time getting others to believe the “truth” stories. Yes, many have “awakened”, but percentage-wise, it is small. There is only one thing that will snap all the nation’s people to finally “get it”, where people who are like this brave group and those handing out “truth” DVD’s or flyers, will be able to be listened to almost immediately. That one thing might happen in the next 40 days or maybe an additional 75 days or so. It was said here by others and has been spoken about for years, starting from the Clinton era before he left office.
The only thing that will snap the entire country into “awakefulness” or realization of the “truth”, is to have Marshal Law, to stop either the presidential election somehow or to stop the transfer of power over to the president elect. All other Constitutional laws have been broken by this regime and the people have accepted it, but it seems that they want to have the Constitutional election. So what we need is to have that Marshal Law which seems to be the only thing that the people are saying that they will accept for stopping an election by the Constitution.
If the election or transition of power is done, then I would tend to believe that we really are in trouble because no one would transfer power, which technically is the same thing as giving oneself up to the authorities for crimes committed, unless that person(s) was assured of a safe haven and if a safe haven is available, that means that whomever is taking over the power position would be condoning all crimes committed and therefore would be just as bad as this regime. That allowance of the transfer of power would then obviously be done for a facade, to help fool the people, making it look like “CHANGE” actually is happening, when it would not be.
MARSHAL LAW (or the stoppage of the presidential CHANGEover) IS OUR SAVIOR that will gather the people together in one fell swoop that is not happening now,
Rhonda
September 29th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Alright, so the bill didn’t pass, great! That still doesn’t fix anything, slows down the rate that the economy will fall, but it still doesn’t fix the situation. Inflation is still occuring and the banks are still borrowing. The system has to be redone so that it will work… for good, not just a few years.
And… the agreement isn’t much different. Just a bit more regulation of the plan and they were still given 250 billion dollars, the president is granted 100 billion more just with a signature-like he wont, he wanted 700 billion in the first place. And then 350 billion will be granted with congressional approval, not saying that they will, they didn’t approve the bill, but it almost seems to me that they made the deal just to calm the people down to not think the bill went through and a “good” compromise was made. Pfft give me a break.
September 29th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
So, i guess the $1 trillion in defense is no biggie right? Come on yall…think! You call that a victory…they still got a TRILLION of your dollars….FOR WHAT?
More money for defense, no money for the banks….more money for defense, no money for the banks….more money for defense, no money for the banks…hmmmm what could it mean….more defense…less money, more defense….less money….THINK! What could it be, they defend us from being broke…..THAT’S IT…..THEY DEFEND US FROM BEING BROKE…..WOW….BRILLIANT IDEA!
So, when we start to starve, they can sweep us up, give us a nice bus ride playing don’t worry be happy, and take us to our new residency. There you will find…barbed wired fences (don’t want anybody unauthorized getting in, wink-wink), and for your safety guard towers watching over the “yard”. To the right you will find our guillotines and to the left, the incinerator. If blood is not your thing, a train ride filled with deadly gas should do the trick. Don’t want to be cremated, try one of our 3 person UN caskets. Your loved ones can be buried, get this, instead of next to you….how about, with you.
Does anyone really believe that america is that bad or can get that bad? Do you think we will act the way they feel we will act when they smash the dollar….are we that carnal? Will we really turn on each other as described in Batman-the dark knight? Do you really believe that?
What is soooo bad about NAU, why shouldn’t it all be one country? Are the canadien’s and mexican’s really destroying it? If it weren’t for the illegals….perhaps the country would shut down. I see nothing wrong with it.
And no, i am not a shill…but i do believe we ALL should have, not just one particular group of people. And, if you look at a map…all three countries are connected….i mean, be serious.
People talk about freedom…but is it for everyone or just for the american people.
No…i don’t agree that force should be used by the elites to further their agenda….that is fucked up and should be stopped….but the world is too big to keep it in a box. We are all immigrants in a foreign land….all of us.
September 29th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
ALRIGHT, this is great!
It must suck to be citigroup right now. They paid 2 billion dollars for Wachovia Corp. that was 48billion dollars in debt this morning. I bet they really thought by increasing there debt it would give them a bigger chunk of that bailout money.SUCKERS are gonna have to take the losses out of there own pockets, OH WELL. That’s what they get for counting there chicken before they hatch….
We still have a financial market that could use some stabilizing……ANY IDEAS????
September 29th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
THANK GOD ! PUT THEY WILL TRY AGAIN SOON
September 29th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
If common sence was common than everyone would have it, and #91 wake up and stop your agenda illegal immigrant…
September 29th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Although the bailout Bill did not pass the House today, it will by weeks end. But there is something very ” Fishy” going on because the FEd has been pumping hundreds of billions into the market the past few weeks, much moe than even the Bailout amount and there should be no liquidity problem. So why the drop in the Market today? Because the International Banker Thieves know that this bailout will be far far above the 700 billion, namely into the trillions and that the greatest benefit of the Bill passing is the opportunity to unload worthless paper derivitives onto the Dumbnuts GVT!
September 29th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Body: Ok heres the question: This Bail out is about buying bad debt, and then turn around and sell these packages or these pieces of paper. At a loss, break even or at a profit correct? WHO do they have in mind to sell these to? I mean for real…CHINA? Some other country? will they use these packages as collateral to gain funds for some other venture such as wars? Or will this money be returned to pay for the debt. of this bail out to ease the burdon of the tax payers? I mean If we cant even pay our mortages or feed our families it wont be us buying anything…so who will own our homes and businesses after they sell those pieces of paper? This to me is a scary thought!
So If anyone has the answer to this PLEASE
Because we over here are asking is AMERICA up for sale?
Thank you
September 29th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
To the asshole #91 :
“What is soooo bad about NAU, why shouldn’t it all be one country? Are the canadien’s and mexican’s really destroying it? If it weren’t for the illegals….perhaps the country would shut down. I see nothing wrong with it.
And no, i am not a shill…but i do believe we ALL should have, not just one particular group of people. And, if you look at a map…all three countries are connected….i mean, be serious.”
BE SERIOUS ? Go fuck yourself !! Us, canadians, don’t want your fraudulent political and banking system poisoning our country, we don’t want your fucking imperialism grabbing everyone of our valuable resources to sell them to other continets (it’s already happening) and we don’t need no fucking Federal Reserve to tell us how we should conduct our lives.
All in all, this country of yours is basically run on lies, deceptions and no integrity whatsoever. We don’t want no part of that. GOT IT, BITCH ?
Do you realize what your country has done to this planet recently ? We don’t want to be a part of that in any way, shape or form. Now go fuck yourself, you egotistical, narrow-minded prick. You can’t see much farther than your belly button and that’s why most of the world despises americans that think like this… America owns the world, huh ? Fuck you.
September 29th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
The USA’s gonna have to clean up its act for more than two decades to even BEGIN to alter people’s perception of your country since this decade has started…
You ask, “is the usa really that bad” ?! WHAT ?
Iraq, 9/11, the inane propaganda on Iran, the Fed, Katrina, shall I go on more ?
You really think anyone in Canada gonna want to buy into the North American Union ? WE HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN AND EVERYTHING TO LOSE ! Sure, Mexico wants in, it’s logical, but think about it, Canada has vast water resources, the biggest oil reserve in the world and the biggest land.
We don’t want no toxic USA bullshit in here. We’ll fight the NAU to death, mark my words, and i’m far from being alone on that view. Even those that don’t believe 1/3 of what I tell them know that Canada will never accept being brought into the NAU. Ever. Ever.
September 29th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
I think we should all watch our language when we post comments here on infowars site. Here we all are trying to inform friends, family and others about the Establishment’s control over us, yet if someone doesn’t agree, we resort to foul language. It’s my opinion that the masses think we’re nuts, so let’s step up and make our points, minus the profanity.
one love,
Dave Ricketts
September 29th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
One of my “Alex Jones” syndrome relapses, I get worked up when ignorance rears its ugly head sometimes… I am angry at the state my planet is in and I guess it sometimes shows.
I’m not apologizing though. I would have confronted him in the exact same manner if he was in front of me.
September 29th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Thank God! this is a victory for the american people!!!! The Dow is rarely used in a 401K don’t fall for all this bullshit, the DOW falling won’t do shit to the average people!
September 29th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
The following members of the House of Representatives voted FOR the Bail-Out and can be held accountable by voting AGAINST them in the November election:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll674.xml
September 29th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
There ya go, Pelosi thought she had everything going her way. What a crook!!
Score 1 for Americans!!
September 29th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Dave Rickett’s comment #100 makes sense about the constant usage of foul language around here. There are other people who come here most of whom we would like to accept what we have to say. We are trying to make an impression and refraining from the usage of foul language is to our benefit. If it must be done, THINK ABOUT SEX instead–hehe.
A lady of love,
Rhonda
September 29th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
The usual people who started and ran the Money Bombs for both Ron Paul and I believe did for Alex Jones also, are now attempting to run one for a chosen third party candidate if they get enough signed up backers. Now that a candidate seems to have become the most preferred, I recommend going to this website………
http://www.thirdpartyticket.com/
It is called “Third Party Ticket”. This is the central point at this time, even though it was not known that it would be because of Dr. Paul’s Chuck Baldwin endorsement since it recently started, that will get anything as a group that is organized done. Go there and read about it and become part of it. Tnx.
Rhonda
September 29th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
This could be intentional. What if the purpose is to keep this “crisis” going as long as possible, so the president will have an excuse to suspend the election?
September 29th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Okay, so THIS measure failed…but look at the margin: 23 votes (have fun with this one numerologists). 23 votes separate us from being that much deeper in debt to the invisible bankers who control the world.
This vote down is supposed to result in one of the worst economic downturns in history (at least, according to the Bush & Co propaganda). So expect in the next few weeks to see even more drops in the dow, more banks going under, etc. all to try and provoke the people to revolt in some way. That will allow the administration to finally put feet to the many executive orders it has in place to establish martial law indefinitely.
Counsel your friends and family, and assure them that the economic crisis will not last that long, and they can make due without their big screen tv, high-end model cars, or 6 room house (unless there ARE 7-10 people in that house). They, like the rest of us (including our illustrious government) will have to start living within their means.
September 29th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
“Living within their means” is something none of us are accustomed to nowadays.
That is the root of all the evil today. Credit.
If we could just go back to live within our means in 10 years, 75% of our problems would be gone.
September 29th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Dont you just hate when your rescue packages fail,
so you have to suspend elections,
deploy the military,
and declare yourself
EMPEROR.
Lucas should sue Bush/Rockefeller for copying Star Wars Ep 3 so much.
13*
September 29th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
FUNNY HOW PELOSI SAID ALL THE RIGHT THINGS BEFORE THE VOTE – BUT SHE VOTED IN FAVOR
OF THE BAILOUT!!!!
September 29th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
YOU VOTE FOR THE BAILOUT BUT WE WONT KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE MONEY, THIS BAILOUT FAILURE IS JUST ANOTHER STEP TO BRING US CLOSER TO THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS BEING BUILT UP NORTH AND MIDWEST. SOON THEY WILL USE THIS BAILOUT FAILURE BY STATING THAT THE JOB CUTS, OIL, AND FOOD PRICES WILL INCREASE MUCH AND MUCH MORE. WITH NO JOBS AND PEOPLE TO FEED THEN THE OTHER RESOURCE PEOPLE IN THIS NATION WILL HAVE IS TO ROB AND LOOT FOR EVERYDAY NECESITIES. THE TROOPS WILL COME IN AND BAM, MARTIAL LAW. THE BLUE RIBBONS ARE BEING TIED UP AS WE SPEAK.
September 29th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
so instead of a bandiad on an incurable wound, we just bleed it out?
wow, this is serious, and very intentional.
September 29th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
I fear Bush will declare dictatorial power in order to push the bill through if the market continues its slide.
September 29th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
fuck you scumbag bankers. and fuck you and see you later douche-bags who voted for this scam.and fuck you to government intelligence guys who are spreading dis-info on the net.and a big ass fuck you to the corporate,hack,mainstream media traitors.looks like no one’s listening to you anymore you scumbag liars! keep up the fight american people!
September 29th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
whoever wrote post 91 is a moron, first of all i am not an immigrant because i was BORN in America. And second, I would like America to STAY America not be some part of a mass globalist Union. If you like that idea so much why dont you IMMIGRATE to the EU. Noob
September 29th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Check out the photo of Pelosi on Drudge Report. Her usual big smile was gone and her face a death mask after the vote. Bi-partisan, please, enough, the gig is up, you and Boner are in the same club, and “we aint in it”. The people won today but you will still find a way screw us like you did 100 yrs ago. The Banking scum cronies approved the Federal Reserve Act which passed in 1913 while the Congress was gone for Christmas break.
September 29th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Wow, a victory for the people, who would have guessed. You see, the power really is with we the people if we only remind ourselves to work together for a common cause!
September 29th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Pelosi is a stoned, face evil bitch.
September 29th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
So the republicans are mad at Pelosi. Wow is this why they voted it down. You mean it wasn’t the emails and the phone calls? What a bunch of (sorry I can’t type the words).
September 29th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
every time i see this nancy balogni bitch, i want to puke. fucken ugly haloween looking motherfucker
September 29th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
While they have you all talking about this Bailout, ask yourselves, “What is this bailout hoopla distracting the people from?”
September 29th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
maybe someone should put a list of the people who voted yes so we can fire there empty scrote sacks and makem ware dirty jock straps on there heads for the rest of there lives
September 30th, 2008 at 12:05 am
…lol game over man game over!
September 30th, 2008 at 12:10 am
Lets see we are being distracted from the trillion dollar military package that just passed the house and senate while we wrangle over 700 billion.
I would say this fiscal fiasco could fall under Bush’s patriot act and military commissions act as economic terrorism so we really should arrest the whole FED and Bush for economic terrorism because that’s what Bush was pushing on TV when he said in a stern voice that we better do this or face an economic melt down which I took as a direct threat to the American public. So today in response the market crashes 800 points because we didn’t listen to Bush’s threat? This isn’t a victory for the people it’s just pulling the plug early on the inevitable demise of our economy which has been deliberately destroyed by the FED. High financial crimes indeed!
September 30th, 2008 at 12:35 am
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK PEOPLE, WHEN WE SCREW OUT A SINGLE BOLT FROM A BIG MACHINE IT WILL NOT WORK. REMEMBER THE BIG MACHINE DOES NOT WORK WITH ALL THE IMPORTANT PIECES, AND THOSE PIECES ARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WE ARE AT WAR WITH OUR OWN GOVERNMENT AND LEADERS AND TODAY THEY DID NOT GET THAT CHUNK OF MONEY, SO THEY SOON WILL SCREW US IN ANY OTHER WAY POSSIBLE, BUT WE WILL BE ALL PRESENT TO RETURN THE FAVOR. POWER TO THE PEOPLE, POWER FOR PEOPLE UNIFICATION!!!!!!!!
September 30th, 2008 at 1:11 am
It’s really easy to contact all your representatives by just going to:
congress.org
They also have an instant emailing set-up right on the home page about the bailout which will contact everyone, even Bush, in one fell swoop. Easy!!!
September 30th, 2008 at 1:30 am
Ever since George Sr. lied to us with his, “read my lips, no new taxes,” I don’t trust government (that’s about the time I started listening to political stuff. I don’t trust them as far as I can see without my glasses. The NWO that George Sr. also promised is coming, and there is no stopping it. Maybe we can push it back, but the instigators and too big, too powerful, and too relentless. We would have to mutiny this whole planet to keep it from coming. Biblical epics are unfolding before our very eyes. Enjoy the show folks. Get some popcorn, a big drink, and maybe a chocolate bar too. It’s even in surround sound and live action 4D. Ladies and gentlemen, let the show begin!!!!
September 30th, 2008 at 2:04 am
Here’s an article by Joe Pinkerton of Fox News. He definitely hits the nail on the head.
No to the Bailout: We Can’t Let Bankers Try to Blackmail America
“You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the eternal God, I will rout you out.”
Today I turn over my space to Andrew Jackson, the seventh president of the United States, who said these fiery words to a delegation of bankers in 1832:
“Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time, and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the eternal God, I will rout you out.”
The issue back then was the Bank of the United States, a federally chartered institution—sort of a predecessor to the Federal Reserve—that Jackson, ever the populist, strongly opposed. Today, most people agree that a national bank is necessary, but as today’s vote demonstrates, there is no national consensus on transferring wealth from the middle to the top. Good! Let’s hope that principle holds true for a while longer.
Today, the same as back then, big bankers attempt to blackmail America: If you don’t do things our way, exactly as we tell you, then the roof will cave in.
No sovereign nation should allow itself to be pushed around by finance like that. If it does, the same blackmail threat will be made again, and again, and again. The time has come to say “No!” And to make it stick.
There are plenty of other ideas for helping Main Street, including a plan advanced here last week, not Wall Street; now it’s up to the American people to insist that those ideas get a full hearing. Because otherwise, we know what will happen: The Republican-Democratic elite will combine with Wall Street to worsen the economic situation, as a way of teaching the American people a harsh lesson, and ultimately bringing us to heel.
But maybe this time, we will not be moved.
September 30th, 2008 at 4:10 am
The Wall Street Bailout Bill:
Bush McCain Obama et al.
The Realignment Of American Politics:
Anderson Baldwin Carter Choate Clemente Gonzalez Gravel Kaptur Kucinich McKinney Nader Paul Perot Sheehan Ventura
September 30th, 2008 at 4:11 am
Pelosi is probably attending the same rituals old lady Madeleine Albright is going to.
I look at America’s politicians and I think either half of them are faggots and Lesbians and child molestors who sold their souls to lucifer for a good time, or the other half are fighting to get in good with the satanists before they can finish running your country in the ground? Even your Copelands and Tammy faye Baker clones and Creflo Dollar dorks are now preaching profits instead telling veiwers to try and pick up the warning signs of the final day’s. Or at least try to figure out just who the approaching anti-christ will be? (my money is on Sarkozy). They are now trying to grab more land and big cars then all the WALLSTREET thugs put together!
America, you are the great whore the prophets warned about. All who partook in her pussy will cry when the whore falls, spilling her golden cup of the blood of the innocent. Even the self-proclaimmed educated Christian elite have been fooled by your own self-worshipped “can do no wrong” image. Why? Because you failed to test the spirits, that’s why! The evil inside your own.
I look at the joke Pat Robertson has become, not just him, but most of the Conservative Christians locked out behind closed doors at high-end government meetings these day’s. There are too many evil people at those meetings, and for America’s Christians to sit down beside them is like making a handshake and a deal with lucifer to do his part to help speed up Christs return!? Hell, just telling by Cheney’s grimace alone, the guy probably drinks more baby’s blood and eats more kids intestines then all the other members put together. (Including you Perle)
America is in for one hell of a ride, and it’s about freakn’ time.
Sodom and Gomorrah is is lone overdue for a clean up.
September 30th, 2008 at 5:49 am
Oh! The dictators rage against us. Sweet music to a freedom lover!
September 30th, 2008 at 7:01 am
this is for68 Casual Observer Says……if i said i did like and even despesed the mafia or hate the mafia…would you say the same ,,, well the jews are organized crime,,,they created the mafia..suck on that
September 30th, 2008 at 8:21 am
VOTE OUT THE ONES WHO VOTED IN FAVOR OF IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSxYIBSuBtk
September 30th, 2008 at 8:30 am
#134: Re-read the Book of Daniel. The antichrist is very obviously the Pope. The Bible says that “the antichrist is among you even now.” It’s not Sarkozy, it’s Ratzinger, or ‘Pope Benedict XVI’ if you prefer his space-pope name. If you want VERY extensive proof that what I’m saying is true, go watch Walter Veith’s lectures titled “Total Onslaught” on Google Video. Just Google “Total Onslaught 201B” and keep going up from there…202B, 203B, 204B, etc. He delves into enormous, documented mountains of evidence pointing to the Pope as antichrist. Catholics, this probably REALLY pisses you off to hear, but it’s all the more crucial for you to investigate what I’m saying, because it is willful sin and willful ignorance if you see me saying this is PROVEN in THESE videos and you refuse to watch them out of a desire to continue to think you are correct. God will wink at ignorance, but the Bible says that if we sin with KNOWLEDGE, we are in big big BIG trouble when we face God at Judgment. So I’m sorry for ruffling your feathers, but please bear with me and watch some of his videos before posting angry rails against me, won’t you?
September 30th, 2008 at 9:28 am
Kurt and Alex,
Please consider throwing your considerable ‘weight’ behind this simple plan.
We have clearly defined the problems ad nauseum, now it’s time to start living in the solution.
What say you?
I think we need to push for Campaign Reform to separate ‘Corps and State’.
1)Make Lobbyists illegal.
2)Set Spending Caps on Campaigns.
3)Implement laws with Serious penalties for bribing public officials
4)Equal media time for all candidates.
5)Limits to contributions to Candidates.
The goal? Make it impossible to “BUY” a candidate in America.
This simple powerful plan will give America back to the people. Within 8 years of implementing such a plan, America would belong to Americans once again.
September 30th, 2008 at 9:34 am
There is the anti-christ, the devil incarnate. And also mentioned is the false prophet, the anti-christ’s sidekick and more likely than not, the leader of a great church movement.
The 3rd anti-christ is being prepared right at this very minute for his/her? arrival on the world stage. The world governments satanists are ready to sacrifice America’s people, and hand over it’s citizens to the New World Order.
Now all they need is a war. Not like the little rape and theft fest the Iraqi peoples have had to submit to it’s American overlords. All they need is something to make Americans go mad with rage. Either way, the final anti-christ will have a short time to act before the gates are sealed on top of it and it’s demonic ridden crew. Right before that happens, the world will know who it is.
America , the old lady liberty , the bringer of light, is the essence of the anti-christ. She looks you in the eye’s and lies, and smiles, and points out lessor crimes made by others, at the same time she commits mass murder and torture and theft, all under the guise of “freedom”.
And everytime you praise Jesus in your billion dollar monopolies, you mock God’s true meaning.
(and blasphemy against the HolySpirit, no matter how Sunday Christian you claim to be, is UNFORGIVABLE.)
September 30th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Relax Halleluluya you are giving us Canadians (notice the CORRECT spelling here) a bad name.
Most of us who think (I am referring to HUMANS now not just Canadians or Americans) are very open to realizing what is going on in the States. This includes open-minded Americans and Canadians. We also realize that what affects America will spill over into Canada and quite frankly, our conservative leader here (Stephen Harper) is a follower and a Bush croney himself anyways so do not toot the Canadian horn too loudly ‘Let he who is without sin …’
When people are victims of lies and deciet, as Americans AND Canadians are today, you do not say ‘F*** Y**’ to the Victims, you go after the deceivers … The Elites and thier agents, who CAUSED the deception in the first place. THESE types should be your target not the average American citizen who is trying to sort out how to defend their own rights from an encroaching system of government that thinks they should have no rights. Need to refocus yourself.
September 30th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Password: nothing is unforgivable according to the Christian faith I have been taught.
You must have learned the NAZI PARTY version of it.
According to what I have learned, God will always forgive if you ask for it.
Be VERY careful lest YOU become as restrictive in your thinking as those who make up the Taliban.
Those intolerant idiots are going to blindly march themselves out of existence
September 30th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
This is indeed good news that some in Congress finally showed a little back bone! I do have a concern however 205 voted for the bailout when 95% of the American people are agaisnt the bail out. That means we essentially have taxation without representation! If that many of our Representatives voted for the bail out it is indeed a shallow victory, and will be short lived.