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How realistic is a North American currency?
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Todd Harrison
MarketWatch
January 28, 2009
Thomas Jefferson once said: “When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on.” As the global financial system pushes on a string, investors are desperately trying to hold tight.
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The New World Order is upon us, full of hope, promise and a fair amount of fear. In our recent discussion regarding the direction of our country, we noted the risks of catering to conventional wisdom and the implications for the U.S. dollar.
The Minyanville mantra is to provide financial news you need to know before you know you need it. That’s a fine line to walk, as foresight often flies in the face of mainstream acceptance.
In 2006, it seemed counterintuitive to forecast a “prolonged socioeconomic malaise entirely more depressing than a recession.”
For years, the notion of an “invisible hand” was conspiracy theory until we learned that the Working Group on Financial Markets was a central policy tool. See Minyanville column.
And now, as we gaze across our historically significant horizon, we must open our minds to thoughts and ideas that may seem foreign to folks conditioned by the past and stunned by the present.
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January 28th, 2009 at 10:36 am
They are going to get their Amero. It’s going to happen so get use to the idea.
Line in the sand Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Well MR.Smith welcome back from the land of oz.
You still don’t get it do you.
Look folks this MR.Smith has not once faced up to the fact that his boses are insane murderers
and that the disservice he is doing to our country will not be forgotten.
Yes MR.Smith there are Men in your ranks that are not amused with actions that this Gov has commited against the American People and the World by acts of Seditious Treason by the criminaly INSANE. You see this sick human MR.Smith has Not ever responded to this Peer Review and CAN’T becase Science & Math does not lie(only people do)–>
http://www.bentham-open.org/pa.....TOCIEJ.SGM
So MR.Smith *REMEMBER this!!
Alot of good Men & Women have paid with their lives to keep this land free from the like’s of what we now face and remember that the Man or Woman standing next to you could very well hold true to the Oath that they have taken and so go ahead and commit acts of unconstitutional aggression against the citizens and you just might get a little surprise from the REAL MEN & WOMEN that serve our land and so to the one’s of honor, I SALUTE you and to the ones that dishonor their Oath, I pity you for when you hold your child, think about the world you are giving to that souls’ future and what you may soon be dying for, like I probably will, (at least my death will be with honor)!
(WILL YOURS)
Sighed,
A VET who cares
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
I gave you an answer go fish for it in the archive. Until then don’t take yourself so seriously because I sure as hell don’t. You say the same thing over and over get some new material or an original thought. The amero or whatever currency will happen for one simple reason. They control the markets. If they switch and the dollar is worth say .01 cents then you will use it to or your going to get left behind or left out. Blah, blah, blah honor, blah, blah, blah, oath… Please.
Line in the sand Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Yes MR.Smith you did respond to this–> http://www.ae911truth.org/
And It was a copout by you saying the BOYS are looking into it(What Bull)!
The beauty of your statements are that I can send out this most critical info to the uninformed(THANK YOU).
Keep doing what you are doing as it just shows folks how criminal this Gov has become.
Have a nice day MR.Smith
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
No not that one. The one after that. Where I told you about engineers and architects. Of you can’t find it oh well you should have been paying attention. And, as a matter of record I have done nothing criminal. Nor, has anyone I know done anything criminal that I know of.
uchikoma Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Your philosophy is ‘Roll Over And Die’ then????? Weak. The main thing that will make it happen is complacency by YOUR type.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
MY philosophy is my own and it does not require your approval nor do I need to explain why I do what I do and how I do it. I’m not a friend to Mr. Jones or most of his fellow cultists…
Line in the sand Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Dear MR.Smith
Even Michael J Heimbach , Assistant Director , Counterterrorism Division , National Security Branch says that MR.Richard Gage,founder of Architects Engineers for 911 Truth is BACKED BY THOROUGH RESEARCH.(Here is the letter) And you know it–>
http://www.gators911truth.org/PDF/FBI-Response.pdf
So you see the jig is up for ANY ONE that can see clearly and so your simplton rebutals are very unfounded and are based on your opinon and not the Science of repeatable forensic.
You see folks like MR.Smith can’t handle the truth if it hurts so what more can I say.
You will till you die live a lie of your own choseingWhat a sad soul you are)I pity you.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Ya sandy your a broken boring record. If you want to know what I said; and no it’s not the I will have to look into it post. You need to go and find the post I think it was in a climate change thread. I don’t care… I addressed this issue get over it… Your petty attempts to try and bait me into an argument using trivial insults are over. You have failed in that agenda. If you want to know GO LOOK IT UP. And let me clarify something for you…AGAIN. You don’t know me and you have no Idea what I know so anything you are going on about in regards to that point are mute. I am aware of a great number of things. Now, go shuffle off and troll someone else.
willyc Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Your pretty foolish joe, to think that people will get used to the idea. After all europeans are having trouble getting used to the euro even today, the difference is we have guns, as well as god. the latter being somthing that you and your colleagues lack. not to mention the nwo has some surprises in store for it. nothing goes according to plan, dont they teach you that? good luck getting the irs/atf to seize the most heavily armed force on the planet. btw im surious as to how you lost your faith, please share.
electrictim510 Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
You think god will interact? Who is the god of this system? lol Read your bible. You have bigger and better guns then the military? The fact that the europeans are “still getting use to the euro” is irrelevant, but there is a point behind it. THEY’RE USING THE EURO! And they’re getting use to it!
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Foolish… I would not say that… OF, course you will get use to the idea. Why? Because some ridiculously high percentage of you have at least one tv in your home and a lot of you have more then one. Then when your not at home watching tv your listening to a radio or tuning into the subtle vibe of the advertising all around you. If that does not get you your friends will tell you what you missed and if you like it or not the propaganda will stew in your brain and then the peer pressure will hit… People are not sheep that is an insult to sheep. they are big dumb bovine monstrosities and the only way to get them to move is to shove a prod up their back end.
They don’t teach me that? I can’t tell you what I know that it’s a secret and if I had some great thing I could manifest for you I would… But, I can’t… Oh and as a side note you have kept saying that we have surprises in store… Um thanks for the heads up… That is like sitting at a poker table and saying don’t look at the man with a mirror behind you. So, who is the foolish one? hmm. The IRS/ATF won’t go after everyone at once they will bleed you one cow at a time until your just a mass of twitching muscle on the slaughter house floor. Don’t believe me I don’t care watch it happen.
electrictim510 Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
In the words of Gandhi (aka a much wiser person than anyone on this forum)
“Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth.”
“An error does not become truth
by reason of multiplied propagation,
nor does truth become error
because nobody sees it.”
Mr. Smith has a point, and it’s a good point whether anyone agrees with it or not. Just because you do not want to believe you don’t have control, it doesn’t mean you have control. Unless we have a MASSIVE growth in the truth movement, we are not going to be able to do anything about most of the NWO’s agendas. The people in support of the anti-NWO movement are way too small, so the Amero at this point looks pretty inevitable.
On a side note: All this ex-military, “I’m ex-military so I am more american than you.” type talk is crap. It runs right along side of the NWO’s plan, you are the worse than sheep, you are the wolf in the pasture because you blindly follow the orders that they give you instead of standing down for a real cause. This message will only anger those who it is pointed at so I don’t care to be passive about the way I say it. You do what you do because you are scared of the truth, face reality. I am not saying don’t fight the bad system we face, I am saying be realistic, it might and most likely will happen.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
Er… Thanks?
Finally someone who mostly gets it… sort of… I might add I have heard some bad things about Gandhi, Mother Teressa and Dalai Lama. They were/are not the perfect wise people everyone makes them out to be. I think it was a discovery or history channel special of some kind… Or was it the ID channel. I forget…
Don’t trust anyone as far as you can drop kick them. Everyone has their own agendas and rarely are they the same as yours.
So… ok… Well never saw the left handed fighter coming… I adjusted though and will modify my approach as needed. Hmm go figure.
willyc Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 9:22 am
your efforts are useless. you both are very cynical and pessemistic. both of you think of yourselves as superior life forms from what i can tell. move back to germany because your not going to find americans giving into this bull s---. if you think that we will just be subservient to some NAU and Amero you are sadly mistaken. give the american people ulitimatums i dare you. I suggest you remember the histolry of this place and second guess your conclusions.
electrictim510 Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Superior life form…no. Realist would be a better title since I gave an example and all you did was insult. Did I say lay down and take it with out a fight? I said “I am not saying don’t fight the bad system we face, I am saying be realistic, it might and most likely will happen.” If you actually read what I had posted, thought about it, and knew the definition of “pessemistic”(pessimistic to correct you, since I am such a superior being and that’s what I do. lol) or “cynical” you wouldn’t of posted that dumbass comment. I am actually more humble than “superior” since I can accept the fact that I might not be able to fight the powers that be. The whole attitude that “we are americans, we fight all and win all” is just a vain misconception that you are anything like our forefathers. You can stand one man against an army of one million and possibly take out 1/10 of them (let’s just say you are awesome) but the fact is, in the end you will lose. If the fight was anything close to being a possibility, I would not of posted this comment, insted I would be on the front lines with a damn kitchen knife if I knew it would work. So don’t call me a damn pessimist, and I am not cynical by any means. The superior being thing was just stupid, I think that is just a reflection of your own insecurities dude.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Well then you’re not very observant and somewhat thick. Why would I want to move to Germany? I have no German blood in my ancestry. Yes, I understand that you’re calling me a follower of Nationalsozialismus. No I am not a Nazi and your insult has failed on an epic level. Americans are traditionally overconfident, under prepared, egotists, with delusions of grandeur. I have not forgotten American history and if it was not for the French America would still be a British colony. I just wanted you to be aware I don’t give ultimatums I just get things done. America is a labored giant slowly getting drained to death by a global system that is it’s replacement. The old ties and national boundaries are going to change and there is little you can do to prevent that. How do I know? History has show that time and again. Countries rise and fall like the tides. America is no exception and is defiantly not the rule. What is apparent is the vulnerabilities of a decrepit corrupt system that is in need replacement. So, you or people like you are saying that the system should be replaced by some antiquated retrograde philosophy. Change is a concept the scares most humans and those that don’t change are doomed to destruction like the Dodo. The real question then is are you going to change or go extinct? I don’t care what you choose. I also don’t want to hear about what you have chosen. But, should you decide to spew forth more mordacious comments try and at least have some valid points.
electrictim510 Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
$5 says he doesn’t respond. Nothing with any backing anyway. lol
willyc Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
“In the words of Gandhi (aka a much wiser person than anyone on this forum)”
Just because you do not want to believe you don’t have control, it doesn’t mean you have control. Unless we have a MASSIVE growth in the truth movement, we are not going to be able to do anything about most of the NWO’s agendas.
Sounds pessimistic and presumptuous to me. You can call it whatever the hell you want but your bull s--- euphamisms wont work on me. Ghandi was wise but was too ahead of his time and he didnt recognise that, so much for being wise. India is f---ed, granted he accomplished some but not much and served as a idol to make people subservient in india. Poverty there is outrageous. But i guess thats what happens when you remain a colony. The government is still as corrupt if not more than ever and indian independence is a joke. They are being brainwashed like our country has been.
and mr smith its people like you and your “realist” buddy that made it possible for these people to succeed. You do realise you only have the job you do because 0they know how much of a dog you are. So go wait by the door for your master to come home and feed you and give you a nice pat on the head. You’re both very weak and you will son be broken like the bitches you are.
electrictim510 Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
First of all willyc… I never said anything about letting anything just happen. And if I’m a “bitch” and I’m “weak” come to Richmond, CA to my front door and say that s---. I never called you anything weak even though I think you are for the way you think, but if you want to go there…cool. I am not a stupid poser on a forum saying I will do something when in reality I’m all bark and no bite, so shut that s--- up. I only quoted Ghandi because of his wisdom, I’m not saying be passive and let it all happen. What I am saying is not to think we are not very much under-powered to face this crap enough to make a change. Look at all the stuff in history even in recent days that they have been able to do. They got away with it all. You are unrealistic in your views and you keep trying to put words in my mouth, so unless you live in CA and want to visit me face to face with this “weak bitch” talk, shut the f--- up.
electrictim510 Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Oh, and I’m not okay with this fronting crap on this forum so if you want to argue or w/e electrictim510@hotmail otherwise good day and good luck with your “fight”. I’ll be there in the fight when it is winnable.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Not that I am in the defense business. however, electrictim510 never said they were wise. All that quoting Gandhi shows is they are more well read then you.
Moving right along…
I have noticed that all of you seem to use the same visual reference. The whole concept is totally false. It’s pathetic really and you’re only coming across and a morally defeated person trying his best to lash out and provoke an emotional reaction. You’re not Hemingway you lack the ability to convey emotions in your writing. The only emotion I get from you is pissed off drunk at 3 am. You are flustered you don’t know why and you don’t know the reason for it but man you’re going to make sure that bowl of peanuts knows it. You might think think you’re speaking with the oral abilities of Martin Luther King Jr. but what the rest of the world is hearing is something not unlike the teacher from the peanuts cartoon gone horribly rabid and with some strange compulsion to slam your head into a wall repeatedly. wah, wah, wah, wah.. *smash* wah, waaaah, wah, wah, wah, wahhhh *smash, smash rude hand gesture.* Don’t worry I have faith in you and I feel eventually you can be trained to be a good little citizen. If not well… Ow…
electrictim510 Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
both of you’re arguments are weak and dont deserve a response. i suggest you reread the conversation and get back to me. The truth can hurt. talk to me when your not coming up with some ignorant run-on, ridiculous rederict. you might want to use a dictionary. tata
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Bye have fun.
Well so much for thinking I found one with a living brain.
willyc Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
funny trick fellas. im going to retype that so noone gets confused. you guys must feel real foolish. but just to clear things up.
both of you’re arguments are weak and dont deserve a response. i suggest you reread the conversation and get back to me. The truth can hurt. talk to me when your not coming up with some ignorant run-on, ridiculous rederict. you might want to use a dictionary. tata
electrictim510 Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
BTW Joe, someone has logged in as electrictim510 which is me and commented that last post. Dumbasses have nothing better to do.
electrictim510 Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
I would also like to add that I do see your point that the lashing out and insulting is pretty stupid and goes nowhere.
To whoever tried to pose as me…You are….nvmd. lol
electrictim510 Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
ha ha Nice try willyc. You are trying to end what I already ended. I say, lets agree that we just don’t see each others points and leave it at that. agreed? No hard feelings? lol
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Clever… “An intelligent guard. Who saw that coming?”
Well if that is the case then the aforementioned comment only applies to the person cloning names.
All the same I think it is time to move on to more current topics on the site so since I won’t get a notice of any posting here I will say it has been uncharacteristically pleasant finding someone able to see the mold for what it is. Caio.
willyc Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
you guys are pretty clever.. that is if you arent the same person. what an obvious stunt.. not to mention you just incrimnated yourself with that post. censoring my posts 3 times. pretty immature man. i guess people resort to things like that when they cant rebuttal. i hope i do see you by my side, and i hope you find it in yourself to contribute to the effort somehow sonner rather than later. I hope you come to realise that this fight is winable. this is bigger than you and i can imagine, i hope you can find a change of heart on this whole matter no matter how much it infuriates me that you did what you did. i guess its just one more reality check for me. i get heated somtimes and i regret some things that i said, my mom showed me that as you probably know. but man you cant continue with this kind of thought. You cant expect change without looking to first change yourself. God is with all of us no matter how you feel discouraged, thats somthing i have come to find. and as ironic as it sounds, god works in mysterious ways. i hope you find your faith.
electrictim510 Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
I don’t know who was “censoring your posts”. I don’t mind being wrong if I am proven wrong, so I have no need to do something like that. idk maybe you were talking to another person *shrug*. I always have to pick my fights wisely, i have more than myself to look after. I have 3 kids and a wife to think about so if i am to go head first into something I need to know it is something with some kind of backing. This is the main reason I stand my ground in these matters and play the devil’s advocate (for lack of better terminology
) Anyhoo have a good one. Peace!
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
The site deletes posts. I don’t know if it is automated or a person but it happens all the time when you hit on certain topics. Tim I am not the devil I am his son get it right. LOL
If you want to know what got chopped look at this link.
http://informationnation.tripod.com/blog/
That is unless they chop this post too. You know what they say “The principle of give and take is the principle of diplomacy – give one and take ten”
electrictim510 Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
oh, no i wasn’t accusing you of anything. I was commenting on willyc and his statement that someone was messing with his posts.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Well to quote two of my favorite hero types… “Something strange is afoot at the circle K.”
electrictim510 Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
lol As I was googling the quote wondering where it was from my wife was like “I know what thats from! Bill and Ted’s excellent adventure. lol
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
Three points on the topic of pop culture for your wife.
willyc Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 7:44 am
i agree im done arguing semantics, we both have work to do. god is with you and your family.
Intelitary Milligence Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 1:56 am
Mr. Smith is getting bored. Needs hooker.
Joe Smith Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 9:48 am
I already visited your mother. She said to tell you hello and tell you she can’t give you any more freebies. Times are tough.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
The amero or whatever currency will happen for one simple reason. They control the markets. If they switch and the dollar is worth say .01 cents then you will use it to or your going to get left behind or left out. I have said that twice now and this one makes three. Additionally, if you do exist off the grid eventually your going to need money to pay taxes on the land you hold or they will take the land and your “stockpile”…
Observer Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
That might happen in your state, but not in mine. I know this because I personally know most people in the County I live. And like most around these parts, there will be blood before they come for the land regardless of if they pass laws or not making legal, or if they inflate or deflate the economy to where people cant afford the taxes.
Its not going to happen without blood being drawn, its that simple in the end.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
It happens in every state… The IRS will come and seize your house, land, assets and records. When they come they will come in tactical dress and with weapons. They won’t ask you they will knock… Then push you in the house and cuff you and your family as they start moving things out. You can try and shoot. You will die. Then your family has no one. How do I know… Been there done that.
Marik Bromine Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 9:33 am
I suppose there are some cops who think, “Just give me a reason, come on, pick up the gun, I dare ya,” but when this goes down, two things will happen, those who are willing to die for freedom will strengthen their resolve, some may join this force, and those who are cowards will drastically weaken their resolve and cower and submit and willingly become slaves out of fear and hopelessness. The action of just taking everything from Americans by force in order to implement the Amero is precicely why it will indeed be a rough time, you will make yourselves out to be cruel and heartless, Patriots will be deemed “Homegrown terrorists,” the propaganda will increase and lies will be told of the dead, demonizing them to create sympathy for the jackbooted thugs. This thin veil of deceit cannot hide treachery forever, someone somewhere will come to the aid of the stomped and trampled “American Terrorists,” it will likely be a superpower, perhaps China or Russia, perhaps the dreams I used to have as a kid of tanks rolling down my street were foretelling what will come. I assume, though, that if those powers get involved, America will not look the same after they’ve rebuilt it.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
There is really not much to comment on in this diatribe. It’s a good summery of what might happen and in any event nothing will be the same. If you want to see the future of those not willing to integrate into the modern world all you need to do is read the book Babylon Babies. I personally don’t believe in psychic mysticism and dreams foretelling anything. I will believe in psychic fantasy when I read the head line “Psychic wins lottery.” or “Man dreams lotto numbers and wins.” I just wonder though can you even hear your own propaganda? I mean you go on about the new world order and their propaganda. It’s odd that people never seem to call you on yours. Well, I guess I just did. Jackbooted..That is a good one I have never heard that one before…really…um.. ya…
Marik Bromine Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Yes, certainly, my words carry a tinge of propaganda, as do all empassioned points. We all, whether we admit it or not, believe something and stand for something, we are all propaganda founts; but the issue at hand is what makes you feel that caving to the elites’ and the NWO’s agenda is the best possible thing you can do for the good of mankind, especially considering they’ve stated using highly unjust, tyrannical and inhuman means to meet ends that yield great suffering for much of mankind? These people are not your friend, they are not the friend of any living creature, they are selfish narcissists, you and your zealous, unyielding devotion is merely the actions of a coddled pet, stroked “lovingly” whilst nuetered and chained; you are expendable and replaceable. I shout bouts of propaganda because I am in a fight for my life and for my freedom and liberties, the new world order spits bits of propaganda because they are in a fight for greed, power and domination. “Not willing to integrate into the modern world,” I am not a backwoods yokel who wishes to tear society asunder, I believe, unlike war-profiteers who crave childish wars, that peace is possible and that freedom and democracy and individual liberties are essential to attaining it. Causing pain to others through tyranny and injustice creates a cycle of tyranny and injustice reciprocated and reflected, we’ve got to stop this, and your diatribes are brutally arrogant and ignorantly backwards in this modern world. Your wish to subjugate people and bend them to your will are not the actions that uphold a civilized society, enslaving people, misleading, lying to people and trying actively to murder them is not conducive to a well-balanced and ordered society.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
I am not zealous or unyielding. To say I am zealous is to say I am partisan to a cause or ideal. To call me unyielding is to say that I am inflexible. And, since I am both nonpartisan and flexible to say that I am is a falsity. Having declared that plainly the whole notion of me being a pet though an amusing allegory is just that a nothing more then story telling and a rather delusional story at that. I don’t know where Y’all hail from It might even be Idaho and to be completely honest I don’t care where your from. What the world and it’s leaders do is simply beyond your scope. I guess you could be a Senator. I doubt it if you were you would not be here talking to the cowed down masses you would be effecting some real lasting change.
So, I stick to the premise that you are a common man of unremarkable ancestry. That’s ok to be common and unexceptional. That is the problem with this country the common and unexceptional have been made to feel as though the are exceptional and above their station. They are the reason the truly exceptional people in the world have so many problems to deal with. I am confident not arrogant and my place in the modern world is all but assured. So, don’t you worry about me and those I know because frankly you can’t speak to that which you do not know and could never understand… The assertion that a person could be subjugated on an internet chat board is rather interesting. The premise is flawed. You’re not taking into consideration free will. So, to state that a person can make a person do or become anything is in fact a false statement and in the interests of space the same holds true with your comments on bending people to my will. I’m not a Jedi. *waves hand* Hmm nothing happened. *waves it again for good measure* subjugated yet? Oh, by the way you’re talking about people nothing about them is well balanced or ordered. In fact give them a week in a locked room and they will be finding ways to kill each other off.
uchikoma Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
You philosophy is obvious:
‘I cant do anything, let it happen’
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
I refuse to go bobbing for apples with you.
electrictim510 Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Until the numbers get bigger with people willing to do something, I say exactly that ‘I cant do anything, let it happen’ but I would look for some way to soften the blow, not just take it. I mean knowing what is going to happen can still benefit us.
uchikoma Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
PS I dont think you require my approval, and I dont ask you to explain. It is obvious you are complacent and feel powerless and wanted you to deny it, that’s all.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
*bzzzz* awe wrong answer… you don’t get the car.
Jc Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
They will but I believe what the guests said the other day. It’s not as easy as they think it will be and people can fight against it to make it not happen but it’s up to the people to wake up
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
That is a wonderful Idea.. however, you can’t get more the five thousand truth people together at one time…How do you expect to beat a group of highly financed, powerful, affluent globalists? With banners and blogs? Not going to happen.
POOPIR Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
I love communism, I think we all need it.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
True Communism is a nice fiction. The problem is that the fiction never becomes reality.
razor Reply:
January 31st, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Why would we trade worthless paper for worthless Amero paper. This was plausible before America woke up thanks to Alex Jones, The Federal Reserve is in deep deep trouble and they are going to have a hard time ever convincing anyone to allow them the privilege of printing our money in the future. Matter of fact, this would be a great opportunity to revoke their charter and gain control over our own destiny once again. Watch out politicians, we know your corrupt and worthless and there will be a judgment.
January 28th, 2009 at 10:38 am
eh?
January 28th, 2009 at 10:58 am
The amero is a hoax… the rumor is being circulated as disinformation to distract people. do your research people get your news from more than one source before you blindly believe what you read from just one…
mean1 Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 11:07 am
IF IT IS A HOAX OR DISINFORMATION THEN WHY DOESNT ANYONE KNOW ABOUT IT OR TALK ABOUT IT ON THE NEWS.I WOULD THINK IF IT WAS A DISTRACTION OR MIS INFO IT WOULD BE ON TV ALL THE TIME?
truthfox Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
very good point!
Blunt Force Trauma Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
So is Santa Claus around Christmas time. Your point is?
electrictim510 Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
You didn’t get the point he was trying to make? The VERY OBVIOUS ONE! Your name says it all, nevermind.
electrictim510 Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
yes, very good point.
uchikoma Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Why do people like you never name references?????? Your post is disinfo!
electrictim510 Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
agreed lol
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
Because it’s all hearsay or thirty third hand information. It’s the old psychology class test where the teacher starts something at one end of the class and the rumor goes from one person to the next and what comes out at the end is almost total fiction.
electrictim510 Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
where are your sources? You probably won’t reply back with any, and if you do it will be an answer like “I’m not going to waste my time with you.” lol I am very willing to look into this awesome list of references you have though.
Shawn Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
i had this posted down a little but nobody responded. maybe i should clarify: the ameros are real in the sence they are being manufactured, but not by the government its an independent agency.
Even if the amero wasn’t a hoax why would it matter? its just exchanging one fiat currency for another.. the only way to protect yourself from the hyper-inflation is to invest in precious metals, property, or just something tangible that will be actually worth something in the future.
Why would the elite make another currency for just north america anyway? dont you think it would be in their interest to make everything electronic instead? after all if they want a new world order and a global economy they would have to change from the amero to another currency again anyways. that global currency would probably be electronic.
you can actually go right now and buy some ameros if you want Daniel Carr manufactures them…
http://www.dc-coin.com/index.a…..n=VIEWCATS
atleast they are made out of gold and silver.. why would the government make a new currency that’s backed by gold and silver? it doesn’t make sense…
electrictim510 Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Well, good point. My main point that I was trying to make in my rant in this forum is this; If the elites’ agenda is to have an Amero currency then 90% chance it will happen. There is not too many things that are significant enough in their way.
January 28th, 2009 at 11:09 am
I am amazed this is being talked about out in the open, “The New World Order is upon us, full of hope, promise and a fair amount of fear.”. I am just sick to my stomach after reading this BullS***.
A.L.Ex N.E.T.A Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Hey dips---, go to another f---ing site then and leave infowars alone. Inbred.
willyc Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
agreed
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
Don’t sweat the big stuff it’s the small things that kill you.
January 28th, 2009 at 11:30 am
one intresting posibility would be if they tried to make conversion into ameros from gold or silver illegal to try to supress the amero price of gold and screw people who were smart enough to protect themselves in precious metals before the dollar crashed.
No ecnomic problems can ever really be fixed without sound money.
January 28th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Shawn, the Amero is no hoax, the ‘father of the amero’, Herbert Grubel, who is a psycho that works with the Fraser Institute here in BC talks about it at length with Dan Dicks here:
http://pressfortruth.ca/91.html
Once you’ve watched/listened to Grubel, please do get back with some feedback.
uchikoma Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Dude thankyou!
Posters like Shaun go onto sites like infowars, Make a post along lines of: ‘X’ is disinfo – do your home work, Then sit back and expect that their trolling has had some effect.
These fools do not realize that a majority of people that read and frequent this site KNOW the SCORE and background check their facts.
Again sir I thankyou!
January 28th, 2009 at 11:41 am
I want some ameros so i can wipe my ass with em’.
A.L.Ex N.E.T.A Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 11:43 am
That’s what dollars bills are for.
January 28th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Most people don’t think of death and the afterlife due to the tv telling everone they are just consumers. People believe they’re a car or their purse. Too bad for them. I don’t ever worry about the NWO. Jeus has defeated them and if they want to ruin the world, there is nothing I can do about it except, love. So, thats what i’ll do. love those around me and pray for the Illuminati. May they see what they are doing and repent of their sin. I forgive them. And i’ll remind Jesus of this as well when my time comes. God bless the NWO and give them love so they won’t have fear to open up and repent. Oh yeah, Hey NWO SMASHERS, stop yelling and getting in their face and tell them they’re NWO scum. Try loving them and forgiving them. Pray for them. Your insults only make them want to kill us faster and solidifies their belief that we need to be exterminated.
homieonekanobi Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
so if we love em, they dont kill us? let me think about that… BULLs---!
dividedlove Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Love is one of the answers but alone will do s--- by itself. And if you think I am going to wait around for some star named jesus to appear out of the heavens while a small group of men run the world then your smoking the popes cock. “You can’t have a politics without a little religion and you can’t religion without a little politics”- Jordan Maxwell. Organized religion is one of the main reasons we are in this mess in the first place! So yeah pay the collection plate, your taxes, and follow all the restrictions given to you (that the priests and elite do not choose to follow) and when you are dead/ out of the way I promise, read my lips, you have eternal life with all your favorite celeberaties. Why don’t we just add 40 virgins into the deal? Bulls---! your armageddon has been planned for a long time now do not put blind faith into the plans of the nwo. We are all god’s sons and jesus was a great human.-one love
willyc Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
im with you man…. love to an extenet. If somone is about to throw me into a furnace or gas shower im sure as hell not about to greet that person with love
Line in the sand Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 12:32 am
Spot on
uchikoma Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 28th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Beware the Fixing of the Gold Price. It happens every day in London, but to establish world currency controls, the price of some monetary commodity (it will not be oil) will have to be controlled. This means the price of Gold (maybe Silver?) will be frozen at some arbitrary level and world currencies will be adjusted accordingly. To speed thing up and destroy national sovereignty, watch for a Pearl Harbor-like event.
Ben Redcorn (Cherokee Nation) Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 11:51 am
I agree!
People are becoming comfortable again, even though we are on the doorstep of the worst economic collapse in history. Another “Terrorist Attack” at this point would push this nation right over a cliff. Most modern day consumers will be unable to deal with such hardships psychologically or physically. They will beg to be admitted to a FEMA camp to be fed!
one of many Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
You just nailed it there Ben,,
and that is the scariest part of this whole mess….
January 28th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Hey, can you guys post Dan Dick’s interview with Grubel within the text of the report?
http://pressfortruth.ca/91.html
People still won’t believe their f---ing ears!
January 28th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Ever asked yourself what would happen if the American dollar crashed? Would there be a new currency? If so what would it be called? Come on people wake up! I know it’s so hard to believe that our goverment doesn’t have our best intereset in mind.And there is no such thing as a conspiracy. We are on the brink of the Event Horizen and all you can talk about is it’s not real.
Sounds to me like you should go get in your little corner and suck your thumb and wait for the enevitable to happen. It’s in the air around you it’s in the water you drink the food you eat the politics the tv it’s right under your nose~ Just remember you can say and pretend something isn’t real all day but the truth shall always prevail in the end.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Even if the amero wasn’t a hoax why would it matter? its just exchanging one fiat currency for another.. the only way to protect yourself from the hyper-inflation is to invest in precious metals, property, or just something tangible that will be actually worth something in the future.
Why would the elite make another currency for just north america anyway? dont you think it would be in their interest to make everything electronic instead? after all if they want a new world order and a global economy they would have to change from the amero to another currency again anyways. that global currency would probably be electronic.
you can actually go right now and buy some ameros if you want Daniel Carr manufactures them…
http://www.dc-coin.com/index.a.....n=VIEWCATS
atleast they are made out of gold and silver.. why would the government make a new currency that’s backed by gold and silver? it doesn’t make sense…
January 28th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Say hi to prime minister Harper
harper.s@parl.gc.ca
impeachbush.org
January 28th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
I said it in another post and I will say it here again for all… The amero or whatever currency will happen for one simple reason. They control the markets. If they switch and the dollar is worth say .01 cents then you will use it to or your going to get left behind or left out.
Blaspheomy Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
im sorry but theres a sign that says dont feed the trolls – so we cannot respond to you sir and have a great day eating your young
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
No, no, no I eat your young and do unnatural things to your loved ones at the same time all the while I do it all with glee in my eyes. I see now what life is like on the left side of the bell curve. Now take your ball and run along sonny.
Line in the sand Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 12:45 am
SOON folks we will trade in goods and services.
Don’t be fooled by CRIMINALS like MR.Smith
He knows that UNITED WE STAND/DIVIDED WE FALL
This NWO has a BIG PROBLEM & we armed folks are the ones that will stand by this–>
READ CAREFULLY:”The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the land. The Constitution of the United States is the supreme law of the land, and any statue, to be valid, must be in agreement. It is impossible for both the Constitution and a law violating it to be valid; one must prevail. This is succinctly stated as follows: The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law, is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the time of its enactment, and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it. An unconstitutional law, in legal contemplation, is as inoperative as if it had never been passed. Such a statute leaves the question that it purports to settle just as it would be had the statute not been enacted.” “Since an unconstitutional law is void, the general principals follow that it imposes no duties, confers no rights, creates no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone, affords no protection, and justifies no acts performed under it.. A void act cannot be legally consistent with a valid one. An unconstitutional law cannot operate to supersede any existing valid law. Indeed, insofar as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law of the land, it is superseded thereby. No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it.”
Sixteenth American Jurisprudence, Second Edition, Section 177. (late 2nd Ed. Section 256)
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
First I am NSA and now I am a criminal. Make up your mind. I do understand what you’re saying I am just laughing at you is all. For the record I am not a criminal and you should refrain from impugning my character as one could take that as a libelous statement. Now that that is cleared up. It’s clear the author of that passage is in full understanding of the law. That is all. -fin-
willyc Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
yyou’re right you are not a crimnal, your a treasonous canibal. you think you got that job cus your smart? no its because they knew they could control you. talk to you later dog.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
You might have misread that. Try again and make sure to read the posting it is related to. Mr.Sandy likes to call me NSA. He’s kind of slow and a lot clueless so cut him some slack.
one of many Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Oh, mr smith, but you are a criminal.
You try to steal ‘integrity’.
You just don’t know. That is the only thing that can’t be ‘taken’ from us.
It seems you have long since flushed yours…….
It is sad. Without it you will truly become nothing,, in the dust of time…..
Joe Smith Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
I am a criminal? I steal integrity? I have no Integrity? Hogwash… Prove it.
Criminal in the context you’re using it in is a false statement. I have committed no crime at all by any legal or academic definition. I guess you could be using it to say I am shocking… This is not likely. So, the first allegation is total erroneous and acrimonious to say the least…
To say I am stealing your integrity is to assume you have integrity to steal. It what context are you using the word integrity? Because of you’re saying I steal your morality that is just absurd. More then likely what you’re trying to say in your own way is I am stealing your unity? Now there is a quaint idea. Unity in the truth movement. You people stab each other in the back more then morons knock on doors. If you doubt my statement I suggest you listen to the past shows of your cult leader Alex Jones. He has himself gone on extended rants about the disharmony and blatant animosity between people in the “movement”… Perhaps you should work on getting some unity before you start claiming people are stealing it. As a side note if by your own admission it can’t be taken from you??? What on the earth are you talking about in the first place? Was that whole thing some kind of totally messed up zen riddle?
You can not speak to the nature of my integrity because you don’t know me. And that was a good attempt at drama at the end. However, it came off like a bad karaoke version of the Kansas song “dust in the wind”.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
*it-In … *of-if…
Joe Smith Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
They really need to add an edit function.
January 28th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Actually they are not. For example, it is possible for you to get struck by lightening at 8pm today, but not probable.
This is actually a good distinction to be aware of when considering new information. Just because something is possible does not mean it will happen.
Patrick Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Yeah, you’re right. I was in a hurry, and doing a million things when I posted that.
January 28th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
what you people need to worry about is a one world RELIGION where to save the planet. we have a national sunday law and its mandatory to worship on sunday..
January 28th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
IMAGINE… NO matter what we do to circumvent this coming disorde- it will be futile, as the nwo will find a way to take any and all from us by coercion and deceit…there are thousands and thousands of exectutive orders from past presidents that will totally make us slaves in our own country…look them up in the library of congressional records around # 13000 AND ON.
For example: If you put your trust in investments like land and real properties, by securing ownership and holding a free and clear deed, the local entities will come up with a way to swindle you out of everything by demanding that property taxes be paid in silver and gold coins currency. How many people in this country actually own real silver and gold coined money?
This is just a thought… How vain it will be to put up your riches in the present economic system, no matter what you do. The best way for all will be to rely on the mercy and grace of God,for HIM to seal us unto his protection daily & Only by real faith in Jesus Christ will we overcome this tribulation and live with Christ JESUS in ETERNITY .
***From a daily practical sense we must store all survival needs up to meet the quickly coming crisis: foods, water, portable generators, and yes, buy silver coins 90% in bags and some gold coins if you can afford to do it. Our government has fomenting this crisis in the means of the illuminati controlling the globe and all on it… IF you know JESUS as your SAVIOUR, draw closer and closer to HIM AND PUT ALL YOUR TRUST AND FAITH IN HIM ALONE… and if you dont know Jesus as your own personal SAVIOUR…WILL YOU ASK him to come into your heart and life today? if your will truly believe He is GOD in the flesh that came here to earth to die for your sins & rose from the grave and is sitting at the right hand of the FATHER NOW …interceding for us AS our high priest by all our prayers and supplications…HE WILL come into your heart and change you by HIS WORD ( THE HOLY BIBLE) AND through HIS Holy SPIRIT each day of your life…..
MY FERVENT PRAYERS GO OUT TO ALL HERE,AND I ask all: PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM…SHALOM, PEACE BE UNTO YOU ALL… and let not your hearts be troubled, neither let you hearts be afraid.
Son of YHWH Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Your message is pleasant in general, but i will not or would not suggest to mislead anyone else by claiming Any son of God is God. The Messiah, no matter what you believe His name to be , is not God. The Father Only, is God. We all can sit on the right side of the Father on the throne if we Follow His Commands.
The Illuminists have already won knowing a good portion of people make the mistake of following the Illuminists own made deception of Christianity and eternal life from Faith only.
Shalom
January 28th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Your all going to die. I tried warning you about the dollar colapse and the amero almost a year and a half ago when the down was 1400 and rising. I am no ecnomist. An insider of the illuminiti told me this would happen and it did a couple of months after.
f--- all of you. if an evil secret society didnt exist. id create one myself and kill u all just for being to ignorant.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Did he now… Well we should correct that.
You’re right do what you’re planning. It should be interesting to watch.
-I do not condone the use of violence and any and all actions of this person are in no way related to me or any comments I may or may not have made.-
Line in the sand Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 12:52 am
I understand your pain but remember that the people of this planet are products of SICK SCIENCE. The Line In The Sand is HERE–> Love-Truth-&-Justice
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Oh do go on… What is “sick science.” ? This should be interesting or at least marginally entertaining.
Line in the sand Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
MR.Smith
You do have A high IQ so why are you so condescending to the facts presented to you.
What about free will,and why are so many folks like you so commited to supporting the dis info our Gov feeds this land on a massive scale.
Trully you are of better mind than that
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Hey it’s a curve ball.
I’m nothing special. I am not a Langan, or a Ung-yong. In fact IQ has little to do with anything really. It’s simply potential. And, being a topic I am not comfortable with I will suggest we move along. Clever tactic to try and appeal to my vanity.
I won’t speak for myself in this matter and given that I won’t speak for myself on the topic how can I really in all fairness assume the mantle of speaker of the people?
I’m no better or worse then the person next to me.
What I think you’re driving at there is what my opinion is. I won’t make it that easy.
January 28th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
It might be the “unpopular” decision that Obama would bring that could cause riots.
First a New National Bank, then a new greatly devalued NAU currency.
This would then cause riots.
Then they would use the FEMA camps to inprison the resistence and
scare the rest into submission to the NWO.
January 28th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Look what Russia is saying about the Global market crash and violent uprisings on the horizon!
Interesting……..
(Russia Today-Storm of global riots on the horizon)
http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/36522
January 28th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
What happens with the Fed when we merge
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
It starts pushing out the new money.
January 28th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
2 Quick points, the dollar crashes and here comes the Amero. I pay my mortgage in dollars so if i was getting paid in Ameros, i would be the first to pay off the mortgage.
2nd point. When you actually hear from one of the illuminati (which i have), that this is real. It scares the s--- of you. I have heard that a large percentage of the US population will be killed in various ways, and that only the upper echelon of the pyramid will be left to rule. You ask yourself “what can i and my family do to survive?” I am by know way in favor of a New World Order, but would you want to survive the events or be a martyr? I think my kids have a right to live, The NWO is just too strong to overcome. Unless there is a “revolution” Us bottom dwellers of the pyramid will be erased.
Line in the sand Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Yes you are right about the illuminati but you forgot about the MEN in the Machine that allso know and are waiting just behind the shoulders of the insaine.
You don’t send Men to DIE over a lie and not exspect BLOW BACK.
This time they underestimated the new printing press(Just like they did in 1774).
But this time we will cut the head off the snake once and for all(It trully is a INFO WAR)
May the light of love guide all of you out there.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Light of love… lol *A single tear runs down my cheek*
You have mentioned the blow back thing before. Just wanted to remind you as your memory seems to be slipping and you are repeating yourself again.
You assume the internet has been underestimated when it has not. It’s like any other tool it can be used and when it breaks it can be replaced.
The interesting thing here is you think it’s the head of another getting cut off when in reality it’s your own and your doing it one line at a time… So, please keep slashing…
movin on up Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Joe Smith = douche bag
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
? Your opinion matters to me ? No… Try and and this time try to be insulting I hate having my time wasted.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
make that “again”
RockyHorror Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
joe leave we don’t like you or your ignorant comments.
i doubt your friends even like you and that’s if you have any.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
Mr. Horror,
I don’t care what you like or dislike and as far as friends go I have many allies. Have a nice ? life? if that is what you call it.
jbayley Reply:
January 31st, 2009 at 12:08 pm
I’ve got a great idea. Do NOT give this Joe Smith a second thought. Don’t comment on anything he has to say. Let him lay down and take it by himself.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 31st, 2009 at 12:54 pm
You are about a week late to get into this thread. Thanks for stopping by though.
Line in the sand Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 1:52 am
Thats what I am beting on MR.Smith.
I can say it will take MEN risking there lives to put dogs like you down so come get some.
I am very well respected and Know what the blow back will meen.
You trully don’t see it do you?(GOOD)
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
I am in full command of the facts at hand. I would love to talk about you and your blow back however I am late for a meeting with some people who matter. I wish you luck on your campaign of terror. I’m not sure why but every time I deal with you I start to hear really bad 70’s sitcom funk music. “Right on man! Power to the people! BLACK PRIDE!” *Raises a clinched fist* LMAO
willyc Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
lol “allies”! thats your word for friends? Jow how did they brainwash you? or did they just give that reassuring pat on the head. You do realise that your masters despise you?
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
I’m not brainwashed I chose the word for a very specific reason and my reasons are my own.
January 28th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
“The New World Order is upon us, full of hope, promise and a fair amount of fear.”
Hope and promise??!! The only hope is that we can DEFEAT the NWO in time to save humanity from mass slaughter. The only promise is that millions of us, acting together, can and WILL defeat the NWO!
January 28th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
We need to maintain at least one of each of our bills, so that, when our republic is restored and should we want to restore our beloved money, we will have a model, To Hell with the amero, there ain’t no future in it.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
They tried to make an alternate currency it was called the liberty dollar. All the assets of the company were seized and I think they are still under investigation. Good thing it was a scam.
January 28th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Dig in Gary, they are and whatever they do, we should follow in that way, they are saving seeds, so we should, they are digging in, have been since long ago for this day and so should we as the rebels of tyranny before us have, while we still have the resources, if ancients did it, the vietnamese did it, surely we can do it!
January 28th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Mr.Smith needs to find a new job away from the NSA(I hear Wallmart is hiring).
You see folks MR.Smith thinks he is smarter than over 500 Engineers with a PEER REVIEW to BACK THEM UP–> http://www.bentham-open.org/pa.....TOCIEJ.SGM
GIVE IT UP MR.Smith! You are making a ass of your self and your OPINION meens little as you have proven your self a blind robot and a TOOL of this criminal Gov(Nuf Said)!
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
I have told you before I do not work for the NSA. I would never work at wal-mart as a matter of pride. The rest of what you are saying is drooled on so much I can’t make it out… It’s time for a new drool cup cretin.
http://www.illwillpress.com/vault.html <— The truth in a vernacular you can understand.
January 28th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
The new currency will happen. Still wont mean s--- however the point here is, and I cant believe with all the enlightenment going on here in this thread is, why is everybody missing the point? Ya know, the End Game?
I mean c’mon, with all the info out there and on this questionable site why isn’t the obvious being stated.
The collapse of the N.Amerikan economy is essential in order to devalue each “sovereign” nations currency in order to create ORDER OUT OF CHAOS. The problem here is, its their “order”.
When the bottom drops out, the powers that be, will take Can, Am, Mex dollar value base and do a “do-over”.
Magically they will say ok lets just pretend everyone’s dollar is on par it’s the ONLY way to save anything. [or via some other machination] This means the value of the peso will rise to American levels, the CAD will match the USD and everybody will be issued the new currency at probably a 30% loss to what it was worth when their nation was sovereign, when they trade in their current fiat bucks.
So what will have achieved? A North American Union.
[project blue "Beam Me Up Scotty" It's not rocket science and all we can do is prepare.]
One more Fabianistic step towards the Global gov’t.
The rabbit hole is a deep one.
January 28th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
“Pandoras out” by the time we get new currency the dollar will be worth about one single mercury tainted jolly rancher.
January 28th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
It is the religions of the world at fault, they do nothing but try to make sure their is separation, that any attempt at peace and the bringing together all people of the earth is wrong, and of some evil scam against humanity as a whole. They attempt so hard at being the ME instead of the WE.. It would be a better world if these religions that teach that such attempts at bringing forth a world currency, a world government, and the whole of humanity as one society be removed from the face of the earth.. that these religions are nothing more than barbaric ideologies that should be abolished and a belief in humanity and the spirit thereof as a whole replaces the selfish,manipulating, war loving religions of history. 1000s of books where not put into the christian bible, and why because they made the political system of the time look bad, but you would prefer to read and believe that wish those political systems taught as truth then… Ironic isnt it.. Even Jesus knew the end of time..”times” and a man walketh into the church carrying a water bowl on his shoulder. A New system, one for humanity as a whole would come about, and that end days in bible is nothing more than the end of the old dogma…
endtimetruther Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
GET BEHIND ME SATAN
January 28th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
You guys get off on some pretty weird tangents…
In relation to this article….
It was a waste of words.
.02
January 28th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
misty blue, antioch? nice post, but i wanted to add to it and say the reason the dogma is in other religions as well as our censored bible. lies for log time now, thats how. white people knew what blacks and other races “were like” before they ever saw one, because the news and words spread as such. lies created white racisms potent convictions. racism is not so potent without the lies, the war to end all wars WW1 whould have never happened in the first place if these asses were not such good liars. thanks misty.
January 28th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
“Years ago, the Federal Reserve wrote a “solution paper” regarding the need to combat zero-bound interest rates. The concern was the flight of capital from the U.S. and an option discussed was a two-tiered currency, one for U.S citizens and one for foreigners.”. I knew it, I just knew it. I have been talking about there being a 2 tier currency for us for over a year. The author stated everything correctly and guess what, Obama and his cohorts are doing the exact thing (increasing more debt etc. etc.) that will cause the implosion of our economy. I never read this paper from the Fed and understand why they would do it. They have to assure the countries and organizations around the world that they will be made whole in case of an implosion of the economy and the destruction of the dollar. Buy making one currency for international trade and squared one to one with the old dollar and another (amero) for just internal trade and purchase, would somewhat keep the US in the game.
They would be afraid of being cut out of the world economy because nobody would buy or purchase not one red cent or dollar from us (look at Icelands money). Heck our money would be essentially worthless. The Amero or something like it will be used internally, and it will be considered illegal to possess the external currency for americans unless your a company that has permission. This way it will be an international limited currency between countries and organizations to continue trade. We all know that this economy is about to implode, just look at the bad bank that they are pushing. It only moves the problem from the left pocket to the right pocket. All of those “AAA” debt securities (remember the rating agencies where saying they would rate it if a cow made the security) will still have to be serviced. The security traunches that where sold to investors will still have to be payed every month, so what is the govt. doing. Are they going to take over (they have to) the monthly payments (in the tens of billions a month) to investors? Are they going to be Johnny come quickly with the payments to make sure the investors always get their monthly payments?
They have to, because if they don’t then they would be in contractual default of the security and by contract law that both parties signed (thats another issue to, will the govt. be legally responsible or the originator). Which means that if your Gunther bank in Germany and you bought 1 billion dollars in some form of debt security from one of the banks, they (insurer of the bond or the issuer) would have to buy back the bond at full price. And lets say it happens to the Fed, it would risk downgrading US treasury and the muni bonds (which states survive on) because of taking on the private sector debt and being responsible for them. Nobody would buy US govt. debt and it would sink our economy. Another thing to ponder also, in the mortgage industry a huge amount of foreclosures/bank owned properties are being purposely left off the ML listings for sale by the banks because they know that it would push the housing devaluation alot harder and faster to the bottom if they let it all out.
This is all a game, everybody is trying to drag this out and hope for a rabbit being drawn out of a hat in order to get us out of this ordeal, and it won’t work. We have hit the wall with this debt economy that was pushed on us. This depression will be one that nobody will forget, the funny thing about this is the scams that have caught up many of the people who thought they where the elite. Bernie Maddoff and others that took peoples money and such. They thought they where safe, now look at them. Thats the problem with either the people who work for the elite and/or the people that think they are in. As the late George Carlin said on youtube from one of his standup skits, “it’s an exclusive club, and YOU’RE NOT IN IT”.
January 28th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
information is the war ender, because eventually the truth will seep into the view of the very souls that practice anti-christ-like acts. or anti-buddha or anti-mahammed or whoever didn’t worship evil and chaos and desert wind, like Set (egyptian satan). 40 years in the desert to raise a new generation of happy compliant socialable people, a front.
January 28th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
I think the North American Union could also be justified in this way: I heard this on Jim Quinn radio show. He was talking about Mexico becoming a failed state and he said “I just hear it now, those people asking for a North American Union to prop them up.” That was very interesting when I heard that.
January 28th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
information is the war ender, because eventually the truth will seep into the view of the very souls that practice anti-christ-like acts. or anti-buddha or anti-mahammed or whoever didn’t worship evil and chaos and desert wind, like Set (egyptian satan). 40 years in the desert to raise a new generation of happy compliant socialable people, a front.jews are chosen, chosen to be reaped like wheat by their own unknown leaders agenda who have moved all over the globe in different affiliations over time.
January 28th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Whatever hapens and whenever it takes place there are gong to be those who go along to get along, those who lie down when they are told and thos ewho won’t stand for any of it at all. The pali fact is Yes “THEY” do control the markets and the policy makers but not ALL of those over whom they wield thier power. Some poeple will fight back and bloody their noses. They will likely be a few hardasses and they will be eventually “DEALT WITH” by those with the power. They will likely have their success for some protracted period of time…maybe several tens of generations give of take few, but in the end discontent and discord will grow and become an unstoppable ground swell then a destructive tidal wave sweepng “THEM” from their ivory towers. For hose students of the bible the Apocalypse (book of revalations for non Catholics) says so, for others try the Vedic texts. They both serve up the same warning for the future but the Vedic Texts predate Babylonian history and therefore the Judeo-Christian traditions (Abraham was a midlevel public servant from th babylonian city of Ur)and the Vedics say that all this happened before, they even describe some sort of “Nuclear” conflict as well as “Flying vehicles” and “Energy based ray weapons”….but I digress. The Vedic Text imply or state this is all cyclicle and when it’s allover this time we get to start this mess fro the very beginning all over again.
That’s what I call hell!
January 28th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Google: Bolivia New Constitution
Another News blackout by corporate Media
A big finger to the NWO gang
Guess who we invade next ?
January 28th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
lurch 182. interesting account, “tens of generations” you say, “a few hard asses will be dealt with.” children of hippies will not allow the mistakes of our parents to go unchecked. a few hard asses you say. the need for freedom is a human trait and many freedom fighters, are not “hard asses” as you so eloquintly put it, they are awake humans.
information is the war ender, because eventually, in one generation or less, the truth will seep into the view of the very souls that practice anti-christ-like acts (if you act). or anti-buddha or anti-mahammed or whoever didn’t worship evil and chaos and desert wind, like Set (egyptian satan). 40 years in the desert to raise a new generation of happy compliant socialable people, a front.jews are chosen, chosen to be reaped like wheat by their own unknown leaders agenda who have moved all over the globe in different affiliations over time.
January 28th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Is it Mr. Smith or Agent Smith?
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
It’s what it is. My friends call me Thoth. Have a nice day.
Line in the sand Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 1:27 am
My friends call me mgundoc MR.Smith < You want to PARTY in IDAHO.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
You are rather obtuse. I would say your a blue list candidate. You pose no real threat and have the apparent leadership ability of a rock. I would like to apologize to the rock at this point.
January 28th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Obama, SCREW YOU AND YOUR DAMN UNION! The United States is just another poorly run corporation. How about a true “Union” of disgruntled “employees” which will actually improve things around here! The North American Union is NOT THE ANSWER. Instead, lets put all of the rich American CEO’s in custody just long enough for them to figure a financial way out of this without uniting with other countries. Put those rich pigs under some real pressure, and I bet they will figure a better way out of this mess. Especially if they know that that will be the only way they will get back to their lavish mansions, hot tubs, and $200 bottles of Champagne which they likely consume by the hour!
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
It’s more like 6-8 an hour. No one likes to drink alone. And, you for got the Almas caviar…mmm now you did it I have to get some. It’s good stuff you should try it.
Line in the sand Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 1:32 am
Well cracking a few snow cap beers with my brothers is where its at.
What a show boat you are MR.Smith!
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Say what you like about what I said. I does not make it any less true.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
*It…
January 28th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
My Dear Mr. Smith,
The Liberty Dollar was no scam, at least it had some intrinsic value to back it up, verses the joke of a paper currency we hold today. Remember when a dollar was still SILVER and our nation was STRONGER????
Joe Smith Reply:
January 28th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
IT had something to back it up… Now they are in a lot of trouble. Tsk tsk tsk as are the people who were listed as vendors. that would be anyone who signed up on the site to be a vendor who would accept the currency as a form of money. How, do I know? I have the affidavit.
Line in the sand Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 1:35 am
Yes they are becase they SUBMITED to the bullys.
Gess what MR.Smith?
That won’t happen much VERY SOON as this is OUR STATE LAW.
READ CAREFULLY:”The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the land. The Constitution of the United States is the supreme law of the land, and any statue, to be valid, must be in agreement. It is impossible for both the Constitution and a law violating it to be valid; one must prevail. This is succinctly stated as follows: The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law, is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the time of its enactment, and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it. An unconstitutional law, in legal contemplation, is as inoperative as if it had never been passed. Such a statute leaves the question that it purports to settle just as it would be had the statute not been enacted.” “Since an unconstitutional law is void, the general principals follow that it imposes no duties, confers no rights, creates no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone, affords no protection, and justifies no acts performed under it.. A void act cannot be legally consistent with a valid one. An unconstitutional law cannot operate to supersede any existing valid law. Indeed, insofar as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law of the land, it is superseded thereby. No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it.”
Sixteenth American Jurisprudence, Second Edition, Section 177. (late 2nd Ed. Section 256)
willyc Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 10:12 am
some truth right there…. hey doesn anyone know of the video with clips of that iraqi vet saying the enemies to freedom, lbierty and the constitution are right here at home and jo rogen on alex jones show the other day. it was posted on alexs site but i cant accesxs it now. it was some good stuff. SOMEONE LINK ME TO IT!’
Prepare to witness the dawning of a new age, an age where darkness retreats to the shadows when the blinding light of truth shines bright as christs army returns to bring justice and peace to the world and men are forced to turn their swords on their brothers. This isnt just a american revolution but a revolution of man kind, of humanity. The Choose your side wisely. Some big surprises are in store for the NWO. Liberty, freedom, justice, truth. these are all our common bonds. Prepare for the global revolution. Nations will soon act concurrently on a like minded basis, willfully without coercion or any kind of terror possible. the enemies main weapon of terror will soon be a thing of the past.
love needs balance and must be used appropriately. for those traitors of the constitution and humanity and that are guilty of other treasonous activity that see the light and come out of the darkness, the people will understand. Forgivness comes when, you can forgive and ask for it, love will be shown to those that do. those that dont will be plagued for the rest of their sorry lives, until they stand before god. This plain has been and will continue to be the front lines of a battle that is universal. Because so long as history becomes a lost memory, darkness sees opportunity. No instituution speeks for nor represents god, god speaks to us through ourselves. Dont let darkness corrupt your faith. THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
They were idiots and paid the price as will anyone who attempts to subvert the duly elected government. You and Mr willy don’t leave me much to work with you keep chanting the same lines over and over. How very cult like. Hmm liberty… hmmm justice… hmm god…hmm death to darkness… hmm satan is our pal.. hmm truth… hmm inside job… hmm your going to get yours… LMAO Tell me another one please I need a good laugh.
willyc Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
“hmm satan is our pal?” thats your line buddy. look up the definition of occult because sharing ideals is not considered occult activities. man your an idiot. did you lie about being in the NSA? i cant believe they accepted somone as stupid as you. they save the likes of you for street cops. the only thing people are getting a good laugh from is your idiodic insidious comments. thanks for the educational convo.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Interesting. My informative post for you vanished.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Whoa, Whoa, Whoa it’s been brought to my attention you’re posting nonsense.
I am not Tim. And, just so you know they did censor my post in that they removed it from the replies. I wrote you a nice little piece on the nature of cults. However, when I try and post it gets deleted. Since you doubt my veracity I went ahead and posted the missing post to an independent blog. Just so you can see it if you like. I don’t run from anything and have yet to find a topic I can’t find a rebuttal for. So, there you go…
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http://informationnation.tripod.com/blog/ <– the Reply to several of your posts.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Oh and you’re welcome.
January 28th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
If we don’t fight for the America we have, we will get the Amerika they give us.
http://propagandawerks.blogspot.com
Blaspheomy Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 12:06 am
true that bro
true that!
January 28th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
I will also assume that one of the three currencies will be used as sort of a reference, or an average taken from the three.
Now, i have not read economics for idiots, so could someone provide theoretical examples.
January 28th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
There is a silver Amero being designed as we speak, and it ain’t being made by the NWO. There is nothing to fear from a global currency backed by precious metals, unless you’re one of the banksters, of course…lol.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 12:02 am
There is nothing to fear because the market is dominated by elites. You are absolutely right. Make whatever silver or gold currency you like. When there is no silver or gold to make it your going to have a hard time backing it.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 12:04 am
Hmm it’s late… What I was saying was… When you can’t get the metals to make the coins or the metals to back your paper… Then your going to have a hard time with your new currency. Sorry for the confusion.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 12:05 am
..”Then you’re”
off_thegrid Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 6:43 am
Joe just f--- off.
We don’t need you here.
We know you get paid to post here, but we don’t by your bulls---.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
I really don’t care what you need. And, I am so happy you don’t BUY bulls---. You should know BY now that your opinion will be filed in the trash with the rest of the substandard comments on this site. So, on that note I will say BYE for now.
Line in the sand Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 1:38 am
We got your game MR.Smith!
So go play with the sick bankers and live it up.
NAZI scum
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
We covered the nazi thing in a prior post scroll back.
willyc Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
mr smith you are by far the worst kind of coward there is. a delusional one.
willyc Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
you’re the worst kind of coward there is, a delerious one. and your comment about bullys and strong? you are by far the weakest person i have encountered. you delusions of grandeur are laughable.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Well at least I am expanding your limited vocabulary. You can be taught.
Once again… These are your personal opinions. They are wrong and inaccurate. All together this is the kind of statement I have come to expect from you. *pets* good boy.
January 29th, 2009 at 12:26 am
nitpicker smith, why don’t you wake up. you write “When there is no silver or gold to make it your going to have a hard time backing it. are you serious? i use gold and silver to get what i want and secure a life for my child. if a few freaks hoard it all then the next rare objects become currency, get a clue, oh and
this information war is the war ender, because eventually the truth will seep into the view of the very souls that practice anti-christ-like acts. or anti-buddha or anti-mahammed or whoever didn’t worship evil and chaos and desert wind, like Set (egyptian satan). 40 years in the desert to raise a new generation of happy compliant socialable people, a front that doesn’t know it is a front. jews are chosen, chosen to be reaped like wheat by their own unknown leaders agenda who have moved all over the globe in different affiliations over time.
January 29th, 2009 at 12:58 am
Nutjob… I mean ball… I have been awake for 18hours what is your excuse. Yes the next commodity will then kick in and who do you think will be right there to buy all of that up and or take it? The people with all the established power… I know it’s rough but keep up. The information war is a tool and it’s a tool being used both ways. If you can’t see that then you have been hitting your bong to much in your mothers basement. And, as on the topic of your religious rant. I found it to be an incoherent mixture of pseudo philosophical psychobabble with a twist of unhinged atheist for good measure… Good, bad, yin, yang, light side, dark side. Admit it you’re the guy at the party who says stupid comments like ” The way forward is often the way back…” and some drunk college freshman thinks your all deep and mysterious. Well I don’t buy it. I could have a better conversation with a gastropod then with the likes of you on your best day. So, that having been said please feel free to see a doctor about your cranial rectalitis as I would hate to have you spread it to anyone else.
nutball88 Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 1:21 am
so the last commodity would be the most trivial and basic…by then the truth will seep into the view of the very souls that practice anti-christ-like acts. or anti-buddha or anti-mahammed or whoever doesn’t worship evil and chaos and desert wind, like Set (egyptian satan). “kill care, scattered to the winds” sound familiar joe smith? it’s words of the speech in boheemian groove but i guess that is just a coincidens right joe?
nutball88 Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 1:23 am
geez i cant spell when i’m pissed. so the last commodity would be the most trivial and basic…by then the truth will seep into the view of the very souls that practice anti-christ-like acts. or anti-Buddha or anti-Mohammed or whoever doesn’t worship evil and chaos and desert wind, like Set (egyptian satan). “kill care, scattered to the winds” sound familiar joe smith? it’s words of the speech in bohemian grove but i guess that is just a coincidence right joe?
nutball88 Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 1:30 am
so the last commodity would be the most trivial and basic…by then the truth will seep into the view of the very souls that practice anti-christ-like acts. or anti-buddha or anti-mahammed or whoever doesn’t worship evil and chaos and desert wind, like Set (egyptian satan). “kill care, scattered to the winds” sound familiar joe smith? it’s words of the speech in boheemian groove but i guess that is just a coincidens right joe? kill care? explain that JOE!
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
When you’re down to the last commodity it’s going to be way to late for you to do anything about it.
Line in the sand Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 1:41 am
You MR>Smith are out of line Punk.
God I wish there was a way to meet you FACE TO FACE,Coward
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
“s--- in one hand and wish in the other and see what one gets filled faster.”
I’m not out of line I would say I am “Spot on”…
January 29th, 2009 at 1:04 am
Screw the Amero ! We won’t use them. Even if they are a pretty gold color!
Remember the Susan B Anthony dollars?
January 29th, 2009 at 6:22 am
Mr. Smith, since you are such the genius you think you are, you know there is an afterlife. You cannot deny it, and know that evolution is some fake s--- that one of your nutjobs thought up. Why sell your soul for something so finite? Do you think it is worth it? To spend an ETERNITY in hell? You know you will lose in the end. We may suffer and die, but we will live after death. You’ve probably already asked yourself. Ask yourself again, and again, until it pisses you off. Even the most evil can seek redemption.
The arrogance of your kind makes me believe you are a true agent of them. However, if you are just some troll, you are just as bad.
Line in the sand Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Well said MR.Freeman
I have given up allot of time trying to open MR.Smiths eyes with critical facts and at first he played the good guy pointing out past debunking tactics. But the info I put out is new and undisputed Science & Math that blast the lies away-> http://www.ae911truth.org/flashmov11.htm
So now he resorts to ways of Dividing our efforts with childlike responces of attack.
You see guys like him are afraid becase to many of us are ready to die with our honor intact! BULLYS like MR.Smith know the game has changed and that it will not be with out pain for scum like MR.Smith.(The Tiger Cage is Open
I have Men ready to come die with me as I would them if force is used against us and our #s in Idaho grow buy the Day.
Look folks if you want to stand tall with your freedom intact then get with your most trusted friends and famly that know whats going on and let this Criminal Gov know we will not submit to them.
Yes bullys like MR.Smith talk the talk but VASTLY underestimate the US Military,Law Men,Vets,and most of all the common Citizen,Its not going to be fun for any Gov criminal that thinks like MR.Smith<–we pity all like Him
(You don’t send Men to die over A lie with out blow back)
PS. Thanks to blind fools like MR.Smith we can open more minds to truth and inform the Gov that they CROSSED THE LINE(This fight WON’T be one sided), so try & take me out or any good citizen in Idaho that stands up to this CRIMINAL GOV and see just how week the swat teems are(WHAT’S LEFT OF THEM THAT IS).
So please let’s play fair so we won’t need to defend our famlys from the likes MR.Smith.
May the light of love & truth guide all you good folks out there!
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Sandy, Sandy, Sandy I don’t care about I Da Ho SWAT. I don’t care if you have the entire state and all the cows on your side. It’s an irrelevant point. It’s nice to know you think you have me all figured out. You just keep thinking that, chugging your beers and playing weekend warrior at the paintball range. You can lead your “men” into battle. It should be easy to spot the cowmouflage. As you see I to can employ a series of broad sweeping generalizations. It does not make a single one true. What is tragic is you actually thing you matter in some way to history. I’m sandy the commander of the first Cow brigade Idaho detachment “mooing maniacs” Give me a break. History is written by great men and not by disgruntled vets with delusions of self-importance. The only thing I have seen great from you is your ability to sit and spin. “What,what what? How dare he speak to a former vet like that you punk. I will have you know I was stupid enough to enlist and fight for the enemy in the first place. But that won’t stop me from claiming to be a great American patriot general. I will have you know I am in total command of my bowl movements and know people in active service who are watching you nazi scum. You are going to get yours when I finally grow a pair and actually do something when I am 90. So take that.” LMAO Give it a rest. A bully is what the weak call the strong. Bullies are what weak masses of people call the leaders of the free world. I don’t care if you like it or not that is simply the way of the world. At this point feel free to go sit and spin all you like. I’m impressed by your technique.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
I never claimed to be a genius nor do I think I am.
Religion: Dead topic.
There is that agent thing again and this time “them” is mentioned. LOL
January 29th, 2009 at 8:59 am
You yanks are unbelievable! You are blinded by your patriotism or outlandish conspiracy theories Australians, Europeans,Asians-u name it have been gobbed smacked at how for the last eight years how much info is withheld from you do your research visit youtube-it’s not just clowns on there, they have news articles on there too-have a look. The Amero I believe is a certainty as with NAU. Over here were hearing about the Asia Union – Australia, China, India, the surrounding Islands on the news The ulimate idea is to break down nations soveignty -part of Nwo – introduce one education system, uniform policing system, try to eliminate numerous currencies and have an amalgamation of religions so it is universal-popes got that one covered! -DO YOUR RESEARCH IT’S NO MYTH
January 29th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 12:02 am
There is nothing to fear because the market is dominated by elites. You are absolutely right. Make whatever silver or gold currency you like. When there is no silver or gold to make it your going to have a hard time backing it.
RE: Money in ones economy could be ? Copper coins. The elite can be shuttered out by a people who make their own economy and disclude the Elites. Easy as that. It just takes formation and Knowledge to be spread, and your Elite, Are?
How would you like tour Elitist Bun? Toasted or not toasted?
See the Elite think Americans will keep falling for the idea that we need the World economy to survive and thrive. But that just isn’t true.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
However, the realitiy is it’s going to happen especially if you want to trade in a global market. You can go back to trading beads and furs if you like. I really don’t care.
January 29th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Also Joe dick_ead? The People of America will figure out soon enough how tyour elite are trying to strip America of its’ remaining resources which is Oil, Coal, Silver.copper & Gold and a few other things. Especially you see how the South in Texas responded to the Transvestite American highway bullshi?
The Elite can control the common money now? But it cannot control a people if they donot allow it. PERIOD!
The 1st American revolution was one with nearlly nothing. Th french only aided us in the end. But I believe We would of won eventually without them. The lies of the history makers only make People THINK we wouldn’t of. But this is a historical falsehood.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
And all this from the historian who found out that Texas had a highway system that loved to cross dress. So, does the highway wear dresses or slacks? I find this just fascinating.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
And is bullshi like sushi? It must be some kind of rare cow dish the highway loves. I should write a book on this.
Line in the sand Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Not once has this cult following Smith responded to ONE point from this power point presentation(Says all you need to know about this child)–> http://www.ae911truth.org/flashmov11.htm
Joe Smith Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
And, once again I will state I have replied to this. It’s in another thread and GO HUNT.
I don’t feel the need to repeat myself.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
That is because I already responded to in another thread. It’s not my fault you can’t go look it up and read it. I also feel no need to repeat myself. Those facts say a lot about you too.
Line in the sand Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 9:52 am
I find this Fascinating–> http://www.gators911truth.org/PDF/FBI-Response.pdf
Joe Smith Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
I found it routine.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
I still find it routine even after my post was deleted the first time.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
well lets see if this one works. I replied to each of the posts twice and it got deleted twice. So, here I go again for the third and final time.
I responded to this post in another thread and If you want to know what I said. GO HUNT!…
I don’t feel the need to repeat myself.
The second posting.
It looks routine to me.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
What the heck. They were all gone now they are all back… I think you can figure out what I was saying.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
You should get it now that it is repeated a dozen times.
January 29th, 2009 at 9:46 am
Think about it? 90% of foreign imports to America is Non-essential…….JUNK!
People donot need X-box nd computers to survive in their OWN economy. Russia did it after they lost their UNION of the soviet states.
DIDN’T THEY?
January 29th, 2009 at 9:51 am
WOW who’d a thought?
kick out the tyrrants and create a NEW economy where Privateer bankers aand their cohorts are legally discluded from currency devaluations and interest and the New formed Gov’t starts creating it’s OWN interest free currentcy?
WOW who’d a Thought? The Founding Fathers did!
It worked then and will again! PRICKS!
January 29th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Joe Smith,
I’ve met a few like you in my time…. no balls, defeatist, arrogant, system loving idiots.
I’d say that the United States of America is not the country for you.(if in fact you’re a citizen)
No one will be stealing any of my land with my consent, no matter how much you think it is inevitable.
We do not need the government to prescribe Unconstitutional laws.
I am the Sovereign, not the other way around.
Fools everywhere you turn these days.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
I’m happy for you?
I will have to disagree with your statements. Mostly because they are total rubbish and totally unsubstantiated.
Line in the sand Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Man you are one sick cult follower MISS>Smith.
You should continue your actons as it aferms to every one just how mind Fu*ked this Gov has become.
As for your paint ball statement Joe my men are in the US MILITARY & LAW INFORCMENT!
This game you are playing is fruitless and only aferms our resolve to arrest the Criminals
That INFECT OUR GOV>I will meet you or one like you in the field of battle soon with the same gear as your side has(ITS CALLED A CIVIL WAR).
Your move as we are ready for it! Here is a PEER REVIEW SUPPORTED POWER POINT PRESINTATION(SMOKE THAT IN YOUR PIPE CULT SMITH)–> http://www.ae911truth.org/flashmov11.htm
Joe Smith Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Well first of all.
The truth movement is the cult. I have already given the evidence to support that claim in the links I provided. You seem to think I am an employee of the government for some deluded reason. I am guessing you use a stock Tippmann more then likely from wall-mart. But, if you insist on claiming to be some rough and tough commander of the local taverns commando army then… Prove it. All you need is a camera and a free youtube account. Oh wait… You can’t do that because??? (insert some lame excuse) So, film it then put the link up show you and your crack special forces detachment. Let me guess you’re also an former navy seal with 3000 confirmed kills and 10,000 simulated kills with a virtual reality bug zapper. IF and I use IF in the broadest most possible usage. IF you can produce said video and I doubt you can… I will retract my statement. Hell I might even apologize. I don’t think it will come to that because I think your claims are loaded with more feces then an average septic tank.
You and your civil war… Ah no. First you would need men and I don’t think that many people care. I mean I am guessing you could get people together like your commando unit… You know the eagles chapter 1913; well that is if their arthritis is not acting up and their wives let them come out to play.
And, I have already covered your peer review in another post… Fetch general…Lmao.
Have a nice day.
I was about to send this when I suddenly remembered an independent film that reminded me of you and made me think of you giving a speech to your geriatrics brigade. Here I included the text just for you.
Jay: Yo lunchbox, hurry it up.
Sissy: Y’know, I don’t get you, Justice. You used to be into all this girl stuff. Stealing, boning, blowing s--- up, and now you’re like this little priss with a conscience. It’s really a f---ing drag.
Sandy/Jay: I am the master of the C.L.I.T. Remember this f---ing face. Whenever you see C.L.I.T., you’ll see this f---ing face. I make that s--- work. It does whatever the f--- I tell it to. No one rules the C.L.I.T like me. Not this little f---
[referring to Silent Bob]
Jay: , none of you little f---s out there. I AM THE C.L.I.T. COMMANDER! Remember that, commander of all C.L.I.T.s! When it comes down to business, this is what I do. I pinch it like this. OOH you little f---. Then I rub my nose with it.
LoL What a visual. I can’t wait to see your film. I digress.
January 29th, 2009 at 10:04 am
So if you want the NWO? You can go to the countries praising it’s tyrrany and go live there.
And We True Constitution Loving Americans can rebuild a country wih moral value to some degree, better that the materialist one we have now.
It will flourish because People who actually work Hard, even those who do manual labor will not have their hard earned money and savings stripped from them by devalution by money gambling thieves that use Gov’t and a Illegal Bank to confiscate their earnings through creation of fiat & interest that cannot be paid by ponsi scheme.
If The Cause can show by way of true info. How Americans can free themselves of Liars
January 29th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Shock and awe is just as much a friend of Barry “Boom Boom” Obama’s as it was to GW Bush. All this currency speculation stuff is just the initial implosion flashes of destiny’s inevitable path. Would you put your life on the line if you were gambling on life as if it were a craps game? If the NWO outlawed all currency, and made you get a chip in your forehead or hand in order to purchase anything, would that make you happier than speculating about the Amero? Is Obama’s spirit of unity based in pride or humility? Just a couple thoughts to put things in perspective.
Truth is the bright enemy to the lovers of lies and deception. Offer the sacrifices of righteousness, and put your trust in the LORD.
January 29th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Lot of good resources and info in this article. What I do not understand, and maybe someone can help here. Why is it that so much time is spent on here arguing about the details? Why is not more time spent on doing something about it? We have a perfect tool and all we do is gab back and forth like anything being said is truly important? Its NOT! The important thing is to defend our freedom! How are we going to unite people against the hidden agenda? Maybe you could hand out some flyers, or write articles and post them in an ezine, Organize groups, have living room meetings. There is so much work to be done and here we sit arguing with each other on “how it really is”.
THIS IS SIMPLE – Do you believe a New World Order is the true agenda of our leaders? YES/NO?
If you answered yes than it’s time we all do something about it. I have been in so many heated discussions about this, I just send people to a website called http://www.warnthepeople.org – Its easy for people to grasp and no frustration level on my part. What ever means you wish to spread the word, just get busy. My children and yours deserve a better future and I for one am going to do what I can to see to it!
Stop watching sound bites, videos and reading articles, get up out of your chair and tell atleast 1 person today. If we all did that, word would spread much quicker than you can imagine. http://www.warnthepeople.org has truly been a blessing to me. Just join the many that are trying to help and stop all the nonsense, heed what is being said here on infowars and always remember to do your own research. Get others opinions and value them. As long as they believe that the New World Order agenda is real, than who gives a rip about the details? This and everything else you will see and hear today all comes down to one simple concept. We Must Defend Our Freedom. Failure is not an option! I believe that Good is Supposed to Triumph over Evil!
Stop giving them what they want by standing divided. I believe we can have our civil liberties back if we are smart enough to work together.
As it stands two things remain: Fear or Freedom – Now Choose!
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
They won’t do anything because they are doing the only thing that they are good at. Whining. Ohh camps, ohhhh my guns, oooooh my rights, ooooh my hemorrhoids. It’s the same thing everyday from everyone in the whole truth movement. It’s like a car with a battery that is almost dead no matter how hard you turn the key all you’re going to get is werr werrr click click click…ding ding ding and red light across the dash. To call it dead is a lie because it was never was alive.
January 29th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
http://newworldordercoin.com/
Check this out! Will somebody get a handle on what’s going on with this? It’s been created by some artist named Terbo Ted in San Fran and is on ebay for sale for $20 each. 5000 have been minted. They are 1 oz silver coins.
The Bookbinder Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Classic decoy, if you want to introduce something controversial either get someone to produce fakes, or have something bigger and better on the news to distract people – your already that deep in it once enough people realize it it will overtake you with an overwhelming surprise – similar to what the army of pharoh experienced in the middle of the red sea persuing Moses
January 29th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Don’t know about this one. There is supposedly a picture of the Amero circulating Russian internet. The picture is on this link.
http://english.pravda.ru/world.....79-amero-0
Tim(Iowa) Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Alan Greenspan:
“In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. … This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists’ tirades against gold
The pravada article is 1 of those we aren’t quit sure what’s going on yet to be truthful because we aren’t quit sure how we will react to this if it comes to fruition.
January 29th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
We know that Denver is where the currency is beieg minted. Here’s a link with actual pictures. You can buy the coins. This looks legit.
http://www.dc-coin.com/index.a.....Category=8
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
I believe that is a link to an independent metal smith. I was only there for about 15 seconds though. If it was the US mint I would have been more interested.
January 29th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Agenda 21, Sustainable Development,Partners for Proparity, North American Union, Trans Texas Corridor, All of this is REAL not RUMOR. the Amero is the endgame. go to a local transportation meeting in your town then you will understand. The writiing is on the wall.
The Bookbinder Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
The Amero is only PART of the end game, to have full control of the public you must control all sectors of their lives, eg: Finance, Civil defence/ law enforcement – these control the physical side of people but this is still not complete you need to control how/ what people think
eg: Education, Religion
January 29th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Well the censors are out on this thread moving on to a more current one. Have fun I won’t know if you reply.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
This site is interesting when you post critical must see information the posts just seem to vanish. I guess it’s free speech only if you agree with the cult line.
Line in the sand Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 9:13 am
The REAL CULT is the Global Elite.
All one needs to do is look clearly and think for your self.
All roads point to the Masons and thier MERCYFULL MASTER.
All Disinfo Trolls like MR.Smith are trully pawns of the Global Elite Cult.
I wish the best for this world but Cult pawns like Joe BOY Smith DON’T
Joe Smith Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Sure thing C.L.I.T. commander.
All this was covered in another post up the list… But, by all means rant on. You might want to get a bib you’re drooling a bit there. *points*
January 29th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
alex-CARTOONS!
January 30th, 2009 at 1:02 am
well, for all of you thinking this a censured blog or thread…register at wordpress.com and have all you want to say about everything!!!
January 30th, 2009 at 7:37 am
HEY FUK YOU “JOE SMITH” THATS ALL COME GET SOME AND PEOPLE IGNORE THIS COWARDLY SPEC OF GARBAGE DONT PLAY INTO HIS PSYCHOLOGICAL MIND FUK HE PLAYS AND AGAIN
f--- f--- YOU JOE SMITH
IGNORE s--- LIKE HIM, AGAIN FUK YOU JOE SMITH
Joe Smith Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Well lets wait a day and see if my reply to this idiot pops up. If not I will gladly reenter it so he and or she can be enlightened.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 31st, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Você é criança e um idiota.
January 30th, 2009 at 10:32 am
In the end it wont matter blood will flow, lead will fly.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 30th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Dogs will bark and cats will meow. The world will spin and the sun will rise. And, the cow jumped over the moon.
January 31st, 2009 at 5:15 am
Прелесть! Я тоже мечтаю) Возьму – и сделаю… У меня получится. Спасибо, очень глубокая и позитивная статья.
Joe Smith Reply:
January 31st, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Мечты – для детей.
January 31st, 2009 at 7:20 pm
f--- You
Joe Smith Reply:
January 31st, 2009 at 8:40 pm
No thanks go find Sandy I think that is more his end game. I do hope the two of you will be happy. I hear California is doing gay unions these days. Best wishes. I do so love to see young lovers connect.
February 1st, 2009 at 4:00 am
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