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HR 875 and the Criminalization of the Backyard Gardener
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Lydia Scott
Campaign For Liberty
March 10, 2009
HR 875 http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c111:1:./temp/~c1112RD9bb:e11439:
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I have no doubt that this legislation was heavily influenced by lobbyists from huge food producers. This legislation is so broad based that technically someone with a little backyard garden could get fined and have their property siezed. It will effect anyone who produces food even if they do not sell but only consume it. It will literally put all independent farmers and food producers out of business due to the huge amounts of money it will take to conform to factory farming methods. If people choose to farm without industry standards such as chemical pesticides and fertilizers they will be subject to a vareity of harassment from this completely new agency that has never before existed. That’s right, a whole new government agency is being created just to police food, for our own protection of course.
DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, READ THIS LEGISLATION FOR YOURSELF. The more people who read this legislation the more insight we are going to get and be able to share. Post your observations and insights below. Urge your members to read this legislation and to oppose the passage of this legislation.
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March 10th, 2009 at 11:30 am
TOO LATE, I AM EXPANDING THE “FAMILY” GARDEN… NAA-NAAA-NAH NAAA NAAAA!
temudgin the great khan Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 11:55 am
i just tryd to link to the site, it was a no go.
kept sayn to resubmit my request
916.0V.W4RR10R Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/.....111sDvlmS::
there you go…………
rjmichigan Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
HR-875 does not apply to me for I’m not a corporation. Your name in all capital letters makes you a corporation. I’m on my way to be a freeman on the land.
Cody Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 3:04 am
Your a fool if you think the strawman or NAME argument will ever work out for you in court or anywhere else it matters.
L.B. Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Why do you call this man a fool for using the strawman method of freeing himself. Have you not seen this work Cody? What system would you use for freedom?
Cody Reply:
March 12th, 2009 at 12:42 am
I use “The law” method.
First this guy never freed himself. Neither did anyone who taught him how to do it. Proof comes from CITATION NUMBER and DOCKET NUMBER of the cases they have one. Let me tell you right now it is NEVER. They have never won.
What use is supreme court decisions of the US stating that licensing laws are not criminal but are civil in nature.
This man is a fool that paid for something that will not work.
Please use LAWS and CASE laws to describe to me how the strawman works. If you go to other sources than your argument SUCKS.
Crispin Glover Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Quickly. MREs
truth Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
there are hundreds of laws on the books
that farmers DONT OBEY NOW
cant burn garbage
they all do it anyways
cant burn tree brush
they all do it anyways
some of this stuff is ridiculous
cause they wont have the money to police it
Jason Sieckmann Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
That’s the basic point in breakdown of all laws; namely that if they can’t be enforced, they will never work.
The goal of the large corporations is to monopolize agriculture down to just them; and stop farmers from coming up with organic means to remove pests and fertilize their own soil.
Social Viability Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Excellent point.
A law that can’t be enforced will not work.
Similarly, they soon won’t be able to stop us using alternative currencies and the central bankers will fall.
Don’t fight the system:
Replace it
http://socialviability.com/
bj Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
If anyone tries to tell me that i cannot grow food, well, lets just say, i will grow food, and i will grow all the food my heart desires. I would hate to be the person that has to go door to door attempting to tell people they cannot grow food. I would rather sniff butts for a living. Rise up patriots!
patriot_of_christ Reply:
March 13th, 2009 at 11:26 am
hey here is the new link, i guess it got to many hits and they tried to bury it.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/.....11p7RrjT::
March 10th, 2009 at 11:31 am
This would be the last straw for a rastaman like Iself!
Babylon seizing or fines for having your own garden!!@!@#$
for some real lyrical fire google Josh Rizeberg
March 10th, 2009 at 11:31 am
hey, we need a new link! That one doesnt work.
DUH Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
http://www.govtrack.us/congres.....l=h111-875 Learn to use govtrack.us . This site is not here to wipe your ass as well.
backdoorsally Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 8:41 am
THE LINK WORKS FINE!
March 10th, 2009 at 11:33 am
the above link to HR875 is a dead link, why? is ti a cover up?
Midwest Patriot Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 11:58 am
The may be dead but just do a search for HR 875 on Thomas and you will find the bill with ease.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/.....1114Oo7LB::
The FDA is not doing it’s job. This new Food Safety Administration is just another level of bureaucratic inefficiency and control over the population of this country.
Call your representatives and tell them to vote against this bill and kill it now!
’nuff said
MWP
Granny Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Tried this link and what did I get? Is it really overloaded or do they not want anyone else to see the bill?
http://www.govtrack.us/congres.....l=h111-875
“GovTrack.us is currently having some down time. Either the website is undergoing maintenance, or the site was shut down because of an error or high load.
Please try reloading the page in just a few moments.
If the problem persists, please bookmark this page and return in a few hours. Thanks for visiting!”
canuck rage Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
dont be such an idjit
FREETRAPPER Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
YOU HAVE TO TYPE IN HR875 EXACTLY TO REVIEW BILL
Martin Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
it really isn’t working
March 10th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Don’t be left standing in the cold dark place of virtual reality!
http://www.freedom-force.org/
Join the movement! Freedom force International currently has members in over 60 countries.
March 10th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I believe that if evil government officials try to take action against people for growing their own food, what will happen is what happens when you try to food from an animal, you get bit. If someone tries to stop me from protecting my family from poisoned food they will get poisoned with lead or dead.
March 10th, 2009 at 11:38 am
The link is not working for me.
TAILGUNNER Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 8:38 am
THE LINK WORKS FINE FOR ME
whodoneit Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 8:38 am
works great for me too!
FUZZYDOOR Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 8:39 am
works for me too
March 10th, 2009 at 11:57 am
click “THOMAS home” then type in the bill # in the “search bill summary&status” box. be sure&check “BILL NUMBER” then”SEARCH”…REPENT.UNITE.RESIST.
March 10th, 2009 at 11:58 am
HR875 is about serving two simultaneous agendas:
1. the further enrichment of Monsanto
2. the eradication of the world’s food supply, to facilitate the mass-culling of humanity
This bill MUST be stopped! Failing that, NO ONE should submit to any authority acting under its directives. To do so is suicide for us all.
TapeWorm Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
This is an infringment on my right to happiness. And is unconstitutional, Therefore if it is passed, it is still null and void, and should not be practiced by any well informed patriot.
Officer: “Excuse me son, what are these two seeds I found in your glove compartment box ?
Civilian: “Um, Officer, there just tomato seeds. why ?”
Officer: “Son, please step out of the car. Your under arrest for the illegal possesion of Food growing materials,which are illegal in this country. Which carries a mandatory minimum of 6 years in a Fema work facility , and a $6,000.00 fine.”
Cilvilian: “Um, in that case, there just pot seeds sir.”
TapeWorm Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
You have to give the cop a southern drawl…lol
freedom will prevail Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Tapeworm, yes, I can see it now. They’ll have helicopters swarming over the neighborhoods looking for personal gardens just like they do pot, which should be legal anyways. Then, when you’re caught, a swat team will be sent in to seize your computers, cell phones, etc, and your garden. Remember that family in Ohio? They had $10,000 of personal food supply confiscated. I knew this was coming, I knew it.. codex.. along with labelling anyone that has any type of ‘emergency preparedness’ as a TERRORIST. I WILL NOT COMPLY, PERIOD. Go to hell, tyrants!
Screw you Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 4:29 am
Correct,
No one should submit. You’re done for if you do.
Shit on the bastards from hell!
March 10th, 2009 at 11:59 am
I got news for these demonic assholes!!!!!!!!!! You can take your GMO’s ,, your old serpent world odor,,, cuzz the people of the USA will all put on their cowboy boots and Kick you right in your modified corn!!! haha its comin to a hot shittin screachin halt wayyyyyy before you get to the family garden,,, !!! mark those words!!
March 10th, 2009 at 11:59 am
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/c111query.html
type HR 875 in the search box, you will find the BILL
March 10th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Today, Be The Solution!!
http://WWW.WARNTHEPEOPLE.ORG
March 10th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/c111query.html
type HR 875 in the search box, you will get the bill
March 10th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
i have said it before and i will say it again:
when do we get to kill these people who are enslaving us?
Lucifer's Lobbyist Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Nobody is stopping you.
March 10th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
This is totally unbelievable. This serpent like nature of our masters has never seen before in history. The way they are trying to do everything under the guise of democratic processes would make Hitler drool with envy. I think the masters are getting way too greedy for their own good. Can anyone imagine if this bill passes? OUR elected representatives are going to criminalize homegrown and organic/natural foods? No amount of MSM brainwashing will be able to convince the general population that this is OK. Can you imagine if our government really tries to enforce this — the civil uprising will be unprecedented!! This might just be what the freedom movement needs. I say we let this pass and let them try to enforce it!
freedom will prevail Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
I’m with you.. let the fuckers pass it, FOR I WILL NOT COMPLY. Nobody comply, resist by any means necessary!
March 10th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
hay all lets all Grow gardens this year watch seeds at home depot your local hardware store food store and expect a the farmers makets to be out of buisness
but fear not GROW GROW GROW find seeds and Grow them the goverment is now Trespassing on Gods Word
and expect it to get worse
have any of you read the book of revelations 16?
Rev 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
Rev 16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshiped his image.
Rev 16:3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.
Rev 16:4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.
Rev 16:5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.
Rev 16:6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.
Rev 16:7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.
Rev 16:8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
Rev 16:9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
Rev 16:10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
Rev 16:11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.
Rev 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
Rev 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
Rev 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
Rev 16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
Rev 16:17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
Rev 16:18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
Rev 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
Rev 16:20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.
Rev 16:21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.
i rest my case
BenRod Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 8:04 am
yes, I have read it.
What is your point?
You think every little thing is a sign, don’t you?…
Typically Christian — living in fear.
March 10th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Use your brains boys and girls, just type into the space provided –> HR 875 and lo and behold, you get the information desired! Amazing isn’t it?!
March 10th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Why do my posts go missing
Johnson Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 8:44 am
cuz your an idiot
March 10th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
This bill is brought to you by the same friendly folks that gave us poisoned peanutbutter, poisoned tomatos, poisoned lettuce, poisoned milk, poisoned meat…..
I hereby declare that I am purchasing heirloom seeds, today! I am expanding my garden to HUGE. I am canning & freezing my produce. Then, when my shelves are full, I am GIVING the rest to others – FREE! And IF ANY government agency steps onto my land about it they will get the business end of my shotgun jammed up their ass!!!
Live Free Or Die! MOLON LABE [it even applies to freakin vegtables now!]
Brilliant Post Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
I will do the same.
Ace's & Eight's Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Ya Damn Right Brother ! Lets give em something they’ll never forget . Give Em Fucking Lead !!!!!
Outrage Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Upon reflection I believe I was a tad rash with my first post. I won’t jam a shotgun up their ass, until I jam a few ears of organic sweet corn up there first. I just don’t want to be unsociable & not share my garden’s bounty with the pencil necked idiots that suck Monsanto’s ass.
BenRod Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Great! I love creamed corn!
(wouldn’t that actually be chocolate corn?)
American Patriot Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 3:08 am
they want our vegetables huh?? well give’em some salad……..lead salad.
god i hate these fuckers
it just never ends!
ya know what .. fuck it, pick a point and take aim, im so sick of this, someone is about to get fucked up. the bill writer better fucking run for cover.
too much is way too much .. my monkey is spun and screamin for a branch! just about showtime!!
March 10th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
My post about my posts going missing got posted,so I will try again!
I have Tomato seeds from Cuba. I think they might be a Heirloom variety originally from the former Soviet Union. You should see what these produce for fruit Large,Tasty,No Juice!
March 10th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
They can pass it but enforcing it will be a reeeeal problem. It will not be pleasant for the first fascist turd that comes to this farm and wants to play warden. Game on.
Outrage Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Mr. Galt,
Would you possibly be a fellow resident of Outrageville, USofA? It really is a friendly community where people mind their own business while looking out for their neighbors. It’s the outsiders that come in & try to run things their way that recieve our OUTRAGE [we been known to open a fresh can of WHUP-ASS & pour it over the outsiders heads]. New residents in Outrageville are always welcome. The rules are simple, be friendly & let live.
sci Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
outrage, just what is your point? are you at work? or just loofing? back to work slave work 6 months out of 12 pay your federal and state taxes bank to work.
Outrage Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
So Sorry Sci,
Some of us already put in my slave time. I’m taking advantage of retirement as long as possible. I’ll let you go work for BOTH of us. Don’t be late now. You know how the boss hates that.
American Patriot Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 3:12 am
count me in – im so pissed right now – im ready to start the party myself!
i absolutely hate these fucking demons!
March 10th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
(d) Enforcement-
(1) IN GENERAL- In conjunction with the establishment of a performance standard under this section, the Administrator shall develop a statistically valid sampling program with the stringency and frequency sufficient to independently monitor whether food establishments are complying with the performance standard and implement the program within 1 year of the promulgation of the standard.
(2) INSPECTIONS- If the Administrator determines that a food establishment fails to meet a standard promulgated under this section, the Administrator shall, as appropriate–
(A) detain, seize, or condemn food from the food establishment under section 402;
Can you say Violates the 4th amendment?
March 10th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
There is nothing in that bill that criminalizes backyard gardens. Read it instead of just trusting some random article or headline. Same sheep, different color of wool.
Reading Comprehension Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
I bet you didn’t score very high in reading comprehension tests. Reading is one thing. Good job, you can read. Being a naive child is another.
It’s too obvious with your handle, and your use of the term sheep what you are trying to accomplish. Nice try loser.
Just read Totnat’s post. You will probably say his handle wasn’t Totnat.
March 10th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
I read HR 875 and didn’t find anything that could be interpreted against gardeners – everything seemed to pretty explicity say “commercial.” That notwithstanding, the bill is a total piece of S¶•.
Two of the co-sponsors – DeFazio and Kaptur – are pretty good on most issues and should be pressured to withdraw their support. Write some letters! This is clearly a move to squeeze out small farmers with bureaucracy. If anything, they should expand funding for things like mobile slaughterhouses (FDA-regulated service for butchering animals for small farms). There’s already an active organic farming “lobby,” but this is a wedge issue where people can have some short-term impact and use it to expose wider health and corruption issues with corps like Monsanto.
Seed Savers – get the book “Seed to Seed” by Seed Savers Exchange. Very important to learn how to perpetuate and improve your own supplies…
Kerry Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
When you read they state at different points that it says anyone in violation of their agenda. That means any one. It states also that anything thatr interferes with the “national economy” well what could interfere with the ecomony more then people growing their own?
If you can not see what is at stake here you work for them.
a dude Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Chill dude, I understand what’s “at stake” as you can see if you read the comment. Do you have a specific line you can refer to? I honestly couldn’t find any loophole other than Sec3, #14 “Food Production Facilty” referring to as “any farm, ranch, orchard, vineyard, aquaculture facility, or confined animal-feeding operation.”
March 10th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
we are here to help you
sci Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
help us? how!
government love Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 8:55 am
we will bury you…….for your safety of corse!
March 10th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Type in H.R. 875 and S 425 in your main search engine and it will take you there.
S 425 takes 38 pages to download as it is printed and almost 50 if by pdf.
H.R. 875 is over 80 pages as layed out and over 100 pages if pdf.
What watse, each one of these bills go be done with less then 20 pages but the way they lay it out, that is why those voting on it just pass through whatever they are TOLD to pass.
March 10th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
All this reminds me of is–what state, oregon I think—where its illegal to collect rain water because it can’t flow as gravity would have it go. Holy fuck.
Ace's & Eight's Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
WTF ? Are you serious ? That’s nuts !
roaddog Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
No–Its true. Its actually a crime.
freedom will prevail Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Yup, I’ve read about that before, completely totalitarian!
whore Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 8:57 am
and yet they will bust me for pulling over and letting it flow where ever it may go!
BenRod Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 8:16 am
It’s true.
there was a story about a man who collected downspout water in a barrel and used it to water his business’ property. He was fined for interruption of natural resources or something queer like that. The “officials” said that he was taking water that was crucial to the local water table. Funny thing is, he was putting it back all along. I believe he had been doing the same thing at his home for many years and there was never a problem. I’m not sure if that is the case from Oregon. ?
He was never convicted of anything, and I think he got his money back… just went to pay for the court anyway. See, they just get people into the system, guilty or not, and scrape their coin out of everybody.
March 10th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
who controls the money msm and government? the illuminati? who are they?
March 10th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
“Post your observations and insights below.”
UN representatives have made dozens of public statements, many of which contain the keywords, “food as a weapon.” This is generally said within a political context (not a biological one.)
I believe that regional warlords will tend to receive the bulk of food aid, after the contrived destruction of the artificial, fiat economy.
The warlords will use the food as the sole medium of exchange and blackmarket that food only to people who are subservient to their syndicates.
In this way, militant extremists become the proxies of an unaccountable UN, and the population is subdued, even before a uniformed presence is felt on the ground.
4w578i Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Remember, at least since the age of Anti-Monarchy, all war has been won and lost, solely through the financing which equipped it.
The actual participants are merely incidental gamepieces to the economic strategy, which drives it all.
March 10th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
If the link doesn’t work for you, like it didn’t for me – use: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/.....1:H.R.875:
March 10th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
So if we already get 80% of our produce from Mexico which is already sub-standard because there using pesticides which are illegal in the states,D.D.T which is 50% seven dust,diazinon,ect..and grown in Rio Grande Valley then imported into the United States…And we all know how clean it is there…There going to take away from us our rights to feed and produce crops for our families with our organic ,pesticide free gardens?Bullsh@t..
Mr Hanky Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Dont forget about the farm hands pinching a loaf in the bushell of beans then rinsing
them off with a blatter splatter!
March 10th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
I went to the link, it has already been deleted or moved. This one is being covered and pushed fast.
March 10th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
I recommend you call your congressmen and tell them to vote no on this insane bill .I know it probably wont do any good ,But they will know that we are aware of the implications of this bill and that we have legit concerns . Hell ,We’ve stopped alot of other bullshit bills from passing because we jumped their ass’s.So might as well get after this one. Can’t hurt to at least try !
March 10th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Jump to section 34: Civil Penalties
(1) ASSESSMENT- The Secretary may assess against a person that violates section 32 (including a regulation promulgated or order issued under that section) a civil penalty for each violation of not more than $100,000.
`(2) SEPARATE OFFENSES- Each violation and each day during which the violation continues shall be considered to be a separate offense.
This is targeted against “a person” and not a corporation. How many of you could afford penalties of $100K per day??
Reading through the entire civil penalty section should scare you. Obviously the intention of this legislation is targeted at the home gardener.
This is a clear violation of the 9th and 10th amendments of the Constitution for the United States mandating performance from the State’s Attorney General.
Peace
March 10th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
When I was a child, they gave out commodities. cheese, milk, eggs, rice, oatmeal and several other items as well. in some cases seeds. I remember it well . . . now they give you a stimulus check that will last less than a week. lets get rid of the clowns of big government and start sewing seed again. Instead of giving away all of Americas wealth, give the things the poor really need.
Food, clothing, shelter and a will to work to survive, and stop handing them everything.
March 10th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Be well aware, Patriots
Part of the 10+ trillion dollars the banksters have stolen will be
used to hire millions of starving, homeless people to be thug
cops.
They will be paid extra for every homeowner, (who they hate
because they DIDN’T lose their houses) they turn in for any
and every reason, (a backyard garden, a bike in the yard, etc).
Their object is for EVERY homeowner to FORFEIT their property
to the banks, (ie the gov’t), and then all Americans who used
to be “citizens” will be “slaves” with no rights.
It won’t be one cop coming to the door, who could conceivably
be dealt with by the homeowner. It will be gangs of SWAT style
goons made up of illegal aliens and criminals let out of jail.
Patriots MUST get together and prepare for OUTRIGHT WAR.
It will either be that or we will be gunned down one-by-one.
This is the last thing we WANT, but THEY LEAVE US NO CHOICE!
American Patriot Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 3:14 am
thank you – good lookin out!
standing by and ready and seriously pissed!
March 10th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Screw with a mans garden ? Holy shit these are some real sick fucks !!!
Johnson Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 9:03 am
YUP! you can screw with my wife but don’t touch my cucumber!
March 10th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Read section 3, clause 13, paragraph B. This would exclude us because were non-profit.
Howard H Reply:
March 22nd, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Look closer. The exclusion is only for the purpose of registration as a ‘FOOD ESTABLISHMENT” but they call these gardens “FOOD PRODUCTION FACILITY”. Do a text search in word and look at all the section that apply to a “FOOD PRODUCTION FACILITY” that doesn’t have to register. Sec 206 is all about this.
March 10th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
quit whining and do something, smalls
March 10th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Here are the names of the traitors: Ms. DELAURO (for herself, Ms. ESHOO, Ms. DEGETTE, Ms. SCHAKOWSKY,
Mr. ENGEL, Ms. CASTOR of Florida, Mr. MURPHY of Connecticut, Ms.
SUTTON, Mrs. LOWEY, Ms. SLAUGHTER, Mr. HINCHEY, Mr. MCGOVERN,
Ms. WASSERMAN SCHULTZ, Ms. HIRONO, Mr. GRIJALVA, Mr. SCHAUER,
Mr. NADLER of New York, Mr. BISHOP of New York, Ms. LINDA T.
SA ´NCHEZ of California, Mr. MCDERMOTT, Mr. RYAN of Ohio, Ms. GIFFORDS,
Mr. FILNER, Mr. HALL of New York, Ms. LEE of California, Ms.
PINGREE of Maine, Ms. KAPTUR, Mr. BISHOP of Georgia, Ms. MOORE
of Wisconsin, and Mr. DEFAZIO)
People need to start their lists and keep track of their crimes.
REB Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Right! these people are traitors! They want to starve you to death!
March 10th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
urging your congresscritter to do anything is a waste of time. They either simply dont care or they are a crook or they are braindead. They day of reckoning is coming.
March 10th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
I’m sure as this country drifts further down the road to chaos and bread becomes $120.00 a loaf in the future. If people are not allowed to grow their gardens just maybe we’ll all resort to cannibalism. If governments troll so happens to be reading this; be very afraid!
March 10th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Re OK: I was thinking more of legal prosecution when the time comes.
March 10th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
I WILL NOT COMPLY. I WILL NOT COMPLY. I WILL NOT COMPLY, PERIOD!! NO GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO TELL WHAT I CAN AND CAN’T PUT INTO MY BODY. IT IS MY BODY, I OWN IT, NOT THE GOVERNMENT. NOW F OFF TYRANTS. GO EAT SH*T.. BETTER YET, GO TO HELL!
March 10th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
They are not telling you what to put into your body. They are telling you what you can not put into your body. This is pretty much what Stalin did when he starved 20 million Slavs to death. They’re just trying to keep us all ssssaaaaaaaaafe doncha know.
freedom will prevail Reply:
March 10th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Yup, they’re tyrants. And they want us all to eat their poison. I will not comply!
March 10th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
The remedy for our problem is simple. Hang the traitors, why is treason so openly permitted? What do you think lamp poles are for? Well there’s plenty of them to sling ropes over.
Any one who has taken an oath to the constitution and has broken that oath is a traitor. Barring our rights such as #1 or #2 is an infringement which is plainly writ on the constitution as being intolerable. Why is the line drawn in the sand on the #2 right? You know the ‘think tank’ of the NWO that makes the world as it is would without any doubt know that once you try to take away our guns we will most certainly not give them up willingly. So my point is the way to avoid this situation is to starve us, and set up programs that you trade in guns for grocery cards. Now with this bill, it is even more damning evidence of what is to come. If you cant grow your own food, or if you trade in your arms so that you can eat; you have no way to fight back and you must rely on the government or commercial food so that you can eat.
Now, this article is legit, the bill does exist although that link wasn’t working earlier here’s a link that will work: http://www.govtrack.us/congres.....l=h111-875
Someone listed it in a comment above. I read through alot of the bill, but as with most bills they are purposely wrote to be lengthy so that most people don’t read all of it; rather they just hear what the title says and takes it as a good thing. EX: “Keeping our kids safe” bill this has a title that would sway you to vote for it because it sounds like a good and just bill. But, what happens is politicians have agenda’s to fill so they slip in certain pieces in the lengthy document such as monitoring our internet, or infringement on our rights. Now this bill doesn’t exist but the Patriot act one and two as well as the Victory act one and two are prime examples of what I was talking about. Now, don’t fuss, read this part of the HR 875 bill : go to ‘defintions’ and under that you will see further down how they define different “Food Establishments”. It is categorized as 1-5, the definitions have terminology in it that can be deceiving. Perhaps a home gardener would fit in one of those categories…? It’s a little confusing. Idk, let me know what you think. That is the only part of the bill that I saw that would be related to this article, that’s not to say there is more in the bill once again I haven’t read it all; I just skimmed it. Well let me now what you think, whether I am correct or not.
Why obey those who are treasonous? R3VOLUTION
-Sir Stevan
March 10th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Ive been beating this drum for 3.5 years! NAIS! Total control of the food supply and yes they plan to force this through,and think they wont shoot farmers and city folks to impose this , think again! http://www.nonais.org, search NAIS on the web,theres some good videos out there on this! Also HR1105,passed today,HR814 and several others all related to HR875,come on people wake up! this effects us all!
March 10th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Urge your members to read the legislation and ask for opposition to this devastating legislation? This isn’t legislation. This is FUCKING madness PERIOD! We live in a world of EUPHEMISMS & still don’t know it.
Please excuse the hard language, but I was taught that there are times when strong language is necessary to get the point across and even wake some people up & these times are more ofter than not any more in this insane world today.
March 10th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
These laws are unconstitutional and will fail if challenged in the Federal courts. I agree with everyone in this post that many will ignore the law.
The important thing to be aware of is that we are fast becoming a fascist state. Doesn’t the name Homeland Security sound fascist ?
We are almost a military dictatorship. Even retired general Tommy Franks says we will become a military fascist state after the next terror attack. (false flag of course)
March 11th, 2009 at 12:09 am
Thats It! My garden is going to be expanded to double the size! I dare them to come to me with a fine for me to pay. You need to encourage all of your neighbors to grow a garden even if isn’t a huge one. Where would they start enforcing their “law” if there were 300 million people and 200 million gardens? Us Patriots need to turn up the heat by growing your own garden.
March 11th, 2009 at 2:09 am
After reading this shiz, Im definately growing the biggest gardens of food producing crops, thanks infowars
March 11th, 2009 at 4:35 am
Monsanto Seeds cause Morgellans disease,
Fibers that grow under your skin, causing itching, and painfull sores that drive you insane.
March 11th, 2009 at 6:06 am
It seems there is no end to the idiocy of these assholes in Congress.
March 11th, 2009 at 7:38 am
Full Article here:
http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=6726
March 11th, 2009 at 7:40 am
I say we start publicly executing ALL the Monsanto board members.
March 11th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Maybe i’m not as smart as the rest fo you guys but I did’nt see shit that applies to backyard gardening, the bill is easy to find and easy to read and fairly concise, it took about 10 min to read.
March 11th, 2009 at 11:23 am
The links not dead the Bill is from the neck up Greedy little pricks trying to control our food sources or supplies,traitorious monopalizing tyrannts.Stop the lobbyists that have such ridiculous ideas in changing legislation to thier clients interests.
March 11th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Illegal to grow my own food on my own property? They’ll have to pry the shovel from one of my dead hands while they pry my gun from my other dead hand.
March 11th, 2009 at 11:43 am
All of this intrusive legislation is finally going to draw a line at property boundaries where no government representative will be welcome for any reason.
March 11th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
One way or the other, I’m ready to move to my big mansion in Heaven.
They can harm my body, but they can’t harm my spirit.
“For me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.” Philippians 1:21.
As what Truth meant, Jesus tells The Parable of the Seed to his disciples in Luke 8:4-15. The seed is The Word of God.
Ask Jesus into your heart.
March 11th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
It is very simple!
You don’t like what Monsanto is doing? Buy them! Buy the company then fire all the crooks, split it in small pcs and put it up for sale, but keep all the seed Co, cancel and ban all GM programs then separate all seed Cos to do independent nonGM seed research, as they were before.
Keep all GM patent in a trust so NO ONE can do that again.
“We don’t have that kind of money”!!!
yes you do! “the great unwashed” has huge power because of the number.
40B market value? If farmers and the great unwashed buy $100 worth of stock each one, and then pool all their stock in one trust fund they can take over Monsanto and do whatever they want with it: crash it, trash it,or turn it over into something useful for humanity.SEE Video Mayfair Set by Adam Curtis on how it can be done. If sharks can do it so can you.
March 19th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Ben, you’re a genius! Nothing like fighting fire with fire.
March 22nd, 2009 at 9:33 pm
This legislation is a DIRECT attack on the Amish who, because of their beliefs (no Internet), probably don’t even know about the law. Don’t we have a moral obligation to help our neighbors and defend their liberties or at least WARN THEM?