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Illinois Democrat Introduces Gun Tracking Bill
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Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
January 14, 2009
If Illinois Democrat Bobby Rush has his way, gun owners in America will be required to submit to the federal government a photo, thumb print and mental heath records. Rush’s proposed bill H.R. 45, also known as “Blair Holt’s Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009,” will make it illegal to possess a “qualifying firearm,” specifically any firearm that takes an ammunition clip, without a license.
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If passed, the law will amend the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act and prohibit a person from possessing a firearm unless that person has been issued a firearm license. It would establish and maintain a firearm injury information clearinghouse with the Attorney General. It should be noted that Obama’s proposed attorney general, Eric Holder, is a notorious gun-grabber.
The very name of the bill reveals what Mr. Rush and the Democrats think of gun ownership and the Second Amendment. “On the afternoon of May 10, 2007, Blair Holt, a junior at Julian High School in Chicago, was killed on a public bus riding home from school when he used his body to shield a girl who was in the line of fire after a young man boarded the bus and started shooting,” text from the bill states. The bill argues that children dying from gun violence is a legitimate reason for the government to monitor gun ownership and place restrictions on the Second Amendment.
As Drew Zahn notes, “H.R. 45 is a resurfacing of 2007’s H.R. 2666, which contained much of the same language and was co-sponsored by 15 other representatives and Barack Obama’s current chief of staff, Rahm Emmanuel. H.R. 2666 was assigned to the House Judiciary committee, where no action was taken.”
In 2000, Barak Obama cosponsored a bill that would have limited the purchase of handguns to one per month. “According to the 1998 Illinois State Legislative National Political Awareness Test of July 2, 1998, Obama also supports the banning of all semi-automatic weapon sales and transfers,” Associated Content reported in March of last year. “The only reason to try to ban a whole class of gun, with such a wide stroke, is to start the progression of banning all guns eventually.”
Now that Democrats control Congress and the executive, they will aggressively move to ban gun ownership. “In the 20th century, the Second Amendment has become an anachronism,” explains the Brady Center. “The rights guaranteed by the Constitution have never been absolute… The vast majority of the American people support reasonable gun control laws and view them as necessary to reduce the level of gun violence in this country. The framers of the Constitution would surely agree.”
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In fact, Thomas Jefferson would strongly disagree with Brady, the Democrats, and no shortage of allegedly conservative Republicans. “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms,” wrote Jefferson, quoting the criminologist Cesare Beccaria, “disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.”
Brady and the Democrats have deliberately distorted the meaning of the Second Amendment in order to take firearms away from the people. Democrat Bobby Rush and his ilk are shamelessly exploiting the young victim Blair Holt in order to dismantle our right to self defense, not only from thugs but from the government itself. As the framers understood, the Second Amendment is primarily about resisting tyrannical government, not hunting or target shooting.
Rep. Bobby Rush and the Democrats who support Brady and other gun-grabbers should read Samuel Adams’ Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Adams wrote that the “Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of The United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.”
Adams obviously understood something the gun-grabbers refuse to consider — liberty of the press and rights of conscience are intimately entwined with the right of peaceable citizens to keep firearms.
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January 14th, 2009 at 11:42 am
The only benefit that will result from a law like this is that more guns will be purchased off line, through private or other illegal means.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:52 am
I see no logic in tracking who has guns so that innocent people do not get killed, tracking this means we are a police state.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Given that at the time of the signing of the bill of rights we had just completed a revolution I do not understand how anyone could interpret the 2nd amendment in any way other than the right of citizens to bear arms.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:58 am
It is not even remotely acceptable to punish people who MAY commit crimes. From gun bans to D.U.I. enforcement. If you haven’t infringed upon anyone else, hurt anyone, or destroyed property of another person, why is it ok to prosecute & persecute? I certainly not advocating getting hammered & driving around, or walking around with a gun firing it off. But citizens should be free to do as they please, up until the point they actually commit a crime against another person or his property.
STOP TAKING MY FREEDOM’S!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 11:58 am
# 3, I like your thinking, we should be able to have weapons that are at a strong enough level to protect us against a rogue government.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Perhaps it is time we prepare for the existence of three nations, the two coastal regions with concentrated industry and urban priorities, and a third, principally agricultural with distributed industry. The former would experiment with socialized, centralized government, with minimal individual rights. The latter would maintain the original intent of the Constitution, with principal sovereignty of government as decentralized, the experiment being the durability of our forefathers’ assumptions on which a nation should be built. Although a pity from the perspective of what has been sacrificed to build our country, this seems preferable to repeating the bloody, uncivilized processs resorted to once before, and even more, de-facto slavery.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
The countdown to civil war begins.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Thank you Bobby Rush! I love spitting in the faces of traitors like you. Pleas, give me another “law” to break!
Patriot 2008 is right. This is the line in the sand. So go on ahead Bobby, push your law you commie traitor. Make war on America and see if America doesn’t fight back.
Stock up people, ammo weapons, get them while you can. The maggots in government are about to make their long planned moves to at last realise their dreams of communist totalitarian dicdateorship.
This bill is because some crack-head went on a shooting rampage on a bus? That’s the excuse? I can guarentee that this piece of s--- did not get exicuted for his crime.
Traitors need thugs to use as an excuse for overthrowing our freedom, and our nation.
God Save America!
January 14th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
PLEASE come and try to get them you sorry ass motherf---ers!!!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
One of many 2nd Amendment killing bills coming our way by the gun grabing power hungry government elitist who know a armened public will not submit to there egg headed idies for our lives. Never submit your God giving rights to these morons.
We will have a avalance of not only Gun Grabing laws but 1st amndment laws also. I dont know if we can fight them at there game , we need to cut off there funding sources by witholding taxes. However the gansters in government have that tactic seemingly in hand by mearly printing money for there own secret use from the Fed. The End the Fed movement therefore, may have a larger impact in the overall scheem of things then just our money by restricting the gansters from moving on there projects without our consent.
What ever else, this 2009 will be a turnng point for our country.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
This is getting ridiculous!
The solution:
Build your own gun at home. 9mm Submachine gun using easy to locate parts, and no special machines needed. If you build it at home, then what THEY don’t know may hurt THEM!
After you build the gun, why not build a silencer as well? I’ll show you how to do both.
Go here:
http://www.thespectergroup.com/militarysales.htm
January 14th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
I don’t think they will have the manpower to come get everyone’s gun. Not only that, but it endanger’s the lives who those who will be asked to take them by force. I don’t think it would fly. I’m getting a gun this week.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
The first Revolution was due in large part to the banking system. And what started the actually fighting at Lexington? They were coming for the guns.
Americans are not interested in fighting the police and the military. When the time comes, it is you, Bobby Rush, and every scumbag traitor that voted for the bailout bill and every scumbag traitor that votes for these gun bills that Americans will hang. No army in the world can protect you.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
The 2nd Amendment is the key. If it falls to these communists, all other rights will quickly follow. Love your 1st Amendment rights? Thank the 2nd Amendment.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
It should be noted the attck own firearms ownership is branching into a two proged effort. There is an attempt to monitor and register certain types of ammunition as well as a constant effort of gun control.
A gun is of no use without ammunition. Ammunition can be made extremely un-affordable to the average gun owner.. and worse.. some will not care because “ethey don’t need much anyway”..
I find it deplorable that of the 10 “Rights” guaranteed by the Constitution.. only the @nd is constantly under attck by the very officials who have sworn to protect thes/this Right.
There is a reason for this. Firearms have been around since their invention..and considering the crime rate.. the Courts make prosecition a mockery.
A criminal with a rap sheep 20 pages long gets preferred easy treatment compared to the firearm owner who shoots the guy who raped his daughter because the courts failed to do their duty.
With a failing GVT and a failed Court system that competes with GVT for control.. we the Citzens are the victims of failed GVT. At some pointthe system will collapse.. or the Citizens will have to demand reformation.
In the menatime.. these politicians do not realise that many live in areas where there is no law enfoprement availible to protect them in a time of emergerny. The cannot protect you… yet they want to shackle you with regulations to make protecting yourslef not more difficult.. but under their rules.
Always increments… a GVT enslaves it’s people. Hitler did it bewteen WWI and WWII. Austrailia has done it, England has done it.. Yet crime has not decresaed…in fact in some areas crime has INCREASED. Why to these eggheads not see this? Simple.. the information is there.. They CHOOSE not to see it. They want control.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
they can have all my weapons……1 bullet @ a time.
Long Live the Republic!
January 14th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Oh, and a jig.
http://www.ak-builder.com/modu.....&pid=2
January 14th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
I agree with 11 12 13, they keep trying to get us to come out and “play” and when we do they wont like it! as far as im concerned these people trying to take our rights away as american citizens, have already comitted treason and are traitors to america and our people, therefore they are comitting criminal acts, and when we take back our country these are the “mfs” that need to be held acountable for all the BS we have had to put up with because of there weak ass’s, not doing their jobs as elected politicians!
January 14th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Thomas Jefferson called the 2nd Amendment the “teeth” of the Bill of Rights for a good reason. In the 20th century, the #1 cause of unnatural death was governments rounding up their own people into camps and exterminating them by the bushel. This method of death eclipses even war in the 20th century. The right of the people to defend themselves is the only thing standing in between them and extermination.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
The time for talking, sending letters and offering sound arguments to these government people is over.
It should clear to all what is now required. Without freedom there is nothing. The American Revolution was a violent and bloody act but it gave use freedom. Need I say more?
January 14th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
I’d be laughing at Bob Dobolina’s proposal were I a person who employed the firearm in pursuit of loot. You want a solution for gun crime? Impose a mandatory 10 years minimum sentence without early parole for any criminal conviction involving firearms.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Agree with you Peter and drew, tyranny is running rampant in this country and they are going to continue to back us all into a corner! Every damn day it’s this or that, more infringement upon our constitution!
January 14th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
WE GOING TO TAKE YOUR GUNS AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT! YOUR EITHER WITH THE TERRORIST GUN OWNERS OR WITH THE GODLY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!
January 14th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
@Buildyourown:
Pull up google and enter:
scribd make a 9mm gun
January 14th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
They just want civil war……. that is the last key to all this…….. and they know it……. we know it…….. so bring your ex defacto law and lets get it on I quess……. no sense in waiting around…… you wish to commit murder of the American people…….. why wait……. your not fooling anyone…….. its not a secret anymore………. so put on your tin badges and walk openly in the street …… blowhorn your with the government and your here to help…….. we the American people are here to assist you………
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
January 14th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Communist dirt bag.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
***Where ever Al Gore is today, he is sweating,, not because its hot,,, but because he is a lier!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
“shall not be infringed”
January 14th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
We should track exactly where Bobby Rush is located. I am guessing we would find him in the men’s bathroom tapping his foot under the adjacent stall.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Why is it that Blacks and Jews are the main proponents of confiscation?.
Here’s just what I can think of off the top of my head:Alan Dershowitz, Howard Metzenberg,Schumer,Boxer,Feinstein,Cellar(of the 1968 GC act)…and there are plenty more.
Regarding turning in your weapons to this group in the future,DON’T,we either “hang together” or we’ll certainly “hang seperately”.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Stop hinting at it pussies! Ban them all together and come confiscate them! START the 2Nd American revolution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will defend our constitution and my rights to bear arms to the DEATH!!!!!!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
where’s the ‘everything’s fine’ crowd?
playing the fiddle perhaps – wankers
January 14th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
To post#4 Definitions to Know. Get off the Internet, you Nazi.
God will Condemn you for what you done.
Here’s the real truth:
ANTICHRIST = The Antichrist will be Assyrian. The long awaited False Messiah will come to lead the Globalists(to their doom) as a punishment for slaying so many of God’s Witnesses. He is also known as the “Assyrian”.
NWO = The New World Order is the system of the Beast based in Babylon which will be recreated as an alternate reality where the Muslims are the chosen people and blessed ones (opposite of reality). The New World Order is in fact an ASSYRIAN EMPIRE and will be lead by the Antichrist. This Empire and the NWO will be the most evil system in the Book of Revelation.
MARK OF THE BEAST = Those who support the Mark of the Beast and fight for survival are supporting the Antichrist, will get a one-way ticket to the Lake of Fire.
CATHOLICS = European Catholics who could not live peacefully in America nor can they live peacefully in the Kingdom of God. These Catholics are NOT Christians. The Catholics are descendants of the Old Roman Empire which adopted Catholicism in the 10th Century. They are more more closely related to Emperor Nero than to Isaac and Abraham.
AMERICANS =Americans from the Western Hemisphere who have co-existed peacefully with Catholics for over 500 years. American are Semites and they have been killed off by the Catholics.
RELIGIOUS EXTREMISM = The Global effort to acquire all the worlds resources and political power so these can be handed over to the Assyrian Antichrist. Zionists introduced religious extremism (through the Koran) that Modern day America is the “blessed home of the chosen people”.
ROME = Home of the Great Harlot of European fake Christians who are also known in the Bible as the “Church of Satan”. Rome is not the Biblical Israel (The people known as the Children of Israel) and some Apostles are warning the world about the evils of Romanism.
Lord, Forgive this poor Simpleton for he not know what he done.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
I wish they would stop hinting at it and just ban it . I think that would wake up the American sheep. Nothing like taking away guns to show people what you really are. So if ya want them-let’s roll. I would love to see what happens. My guess is it would be over before it even started.
Gun control works-just ask Hitler.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
That’s quite alright. People will find other ways to protect their properties and families’ lives. If the unspeakable enemy thinks we’ll be disarmed simply by taking away our guns, then they have sorely underestimated the ingenuity of the free-thinking American.
They may steal my gun, but they will NEVER take my crossbow!
January 14th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
This guy and the agents behind him must be crazy as a $*(t rat if they think people are going to get a photo ID and submit to finger printing. It’s almost as if they are making gun owners criminals before any law has been broken.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
the line in the sand has been drawn. you can have them barrel first. don’t stand for for this or we all will pay
January 14th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
i’m at least glad they’re showing a face of the enemy.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
I thought there wasn’t any ex-post facto allowed… how can they make you get a license for a gun that didn’t require a license at the time of purchase.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
this is the line in the sand. you can have them barrel first. if we comply all the people of this great country will pay
January 14th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
if the kids on the bus had guns, the guy wouldnt have been shooting at them, or at least if the bus driver had a gun … how the hell are we going to protect ourselves … do you think the police will come and save you ?
January 14th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
MOLON LABE!! Not from my cold dead hands, but over your cold dead body, tyrant.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
yeah bobby rush is another black panther… oh ex black panther sorry… think he has changed?
but yeah people need to step up more and do more to expose obama! stop being one of thsoe fools that think he isn’t going to do all that he says he’s gonna do and more!
the guy is not change! at least not for the better! just stop it with this hope bulls---!
obama is not the one! don’t ever be fooled by him! even if he does a few things that seem right… do not be fooled! even though it’s looking like he is actually going to do nothing right!
January 14th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
I guess Democrat Bobby Rush doesnt know that we can just get stolen guns. What a scum bag its all coming out now going for broke.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
This is just a sample of what the Obama/Dempcrat Love-In is going to look like. They want your guns, money, freedom, life. After all, the country is too stupid to be trusted to make the right decision on anything. For proof all they have to do is point to the last election & point out that the country elected Obama & a [super] majority of Democrats. Talk about proof of stupidity!!!
Myself, I plan on becoming a felon. After all, the SCOTUS has ruled that CRIMINALS ARE EXEMPT FROM GUN CONTROL LAWS. The only folks affected are law abiding people. The moral; Be immoral, commit a crime, exempt yourself from prosecution. And have a nice day.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
HAHA! you have a point there weebee.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Every body need to get you as many guns and as much amo as you can afford and keep your mouth shut and wait! because our vote voice and lifes dont matter to the tyrants on top. just be ready when they come. good lick.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
ILLINOIS is the MOST corrupt state in the nation. It is run by organized crime. I have lived here since birth and have never felt more like vomiting. These laws are only to be used against WHITE PEOPLE. Missouri here we come.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
***********JASON ,,,THIS guy is CLULESS… Challenge HIM!!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Spot on #7 couldn’t have said it better.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
When and where do we organize? Who is going to take command? Everyone says they are ready, why wait any longer? Have a plan, have a trusted group, and have an assembly area, before you start spewing off at the mouth. Seperatly we will be defeated. Toghether/united, we will prevail!
January 14th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
this is only the beginning when you mix the decades of runaway tyranny with decades of lying news + deaducation centers (skooolz) + IL statewide corruption + foreign born deep cover marxist NWO tool
January 14th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis !!!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Anybody on this list who is not a member of Gunowners of America better join up NOW!
January 14th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Open confiscation always follows open registration. I use the word open, because we already have a tacit registration system. However, make no mistake. The current system is somewhat tolerable but intended to lead to the next step…open national registration. That we cannot have. That will be the official conversion of a right into a privilege. It should be one of our lines in the sand that we will not allow to be crossed without a heavy price.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
THE CLOCK IS TICKING ON OUR CONSTITUTION. WE HAVE BUTCHERED BABIES AND PACKED s--- WITH PECKERS UNDER THE LIE THAT THE CONSTITUTION GUARANTEES THAT RIGHT. WHEN WE LIFT OUR LAWS ABOVE GOD’S LAWS WE INHERIT LAWLESSNESS AND THEN BONDAGE.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
You might as well spend the last of your worthless fiat currency on a semi-auto, clip fed weapon in a US military caliber with extra mags and parts, some load bearing gear and lots of ammo. You are going to need it in the very near future. When others are starving, they are going to come for what you have.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
This passage is not meant to come off as racial but may I ask, werent black people slaves who at one point in time in history died to carry a firearm to be freed from the white man? Then why I ask do you gain the White House and forget where you came from? Uphold our gun rights.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
OMFG!!!! People, join a gun lobby!!!! you Morons!!!! The only Amendment that holds our Constitution together is the 2nd Amendment.
If you do not like firearms, do not buy one, period
Fall of America, and your all in it. This country will just fall and fall into chaos, criminal break-ins, murder, rape, you will have no defense what so ever. Criminals even agree that citizens with guns make them think twice. This happened in England & Australia, and they spoke aloud saying to protect our firearms. England’s crime rate has increased since the ban.
A Little Gun History Lesson
‘Never Underestimate the Power of Stupid People in Large Groups’
A Little Gun History Lesson
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to
1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded
up and exterminated.
———— ——— ———
In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5
million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.
———— ——— ——
Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a
total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves
were
rounded up and exterminated
———— ——— ———
China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20
million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up
and
exterminated.
———— ——— ——-
Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981,
100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.
———— ——— ———
Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979,
300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.
———— ——— ———
Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977,
one million ‘educated’ people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up
and
exterminated.
———— ——— ——–
Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th
Century because of gun control: 56 million.
———— ——— ———
It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were
forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by
their own
government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500
million dollars. The first year results are now in: Australia-wide,
homicides are up 3.2 percent
Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent Australia-wide,
armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!
In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now
up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in,
the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!
It will never happen here? I bet the Aussies said that too!
While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in
armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past
12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.
There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and
assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain
how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense
was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The
Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.
You won’t see this data on the US evening news, or hear
politicians disseminating this information.
Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property
and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.
Take note my fellow Americans, before it’s too late!
The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please
remind him of this history lesson.
With Guns……. .. ….We Are ‘Citizens’.
Without Them…….. We Are ‘Subjects’.
During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because
they knew most Americans were ARMED!
Note: Admiral Yamamoto who crafted the attack on Pearl Harbor
had attended Harvard U 1919-1921 & was Naval Attaché to the U. S. 1925-28.
Most of our Navy was destroyed at Pearl Harbor & our Army had been
deprived of funding & was ill prepared to defend the country.
It was reported that when asked why Japan did not follow up the
Pearl Harbor attack with an invasion of the U. S. Mainland, his reply was
that
he had lived in the U. S. & knew that almost all households had
guns.
If you value your freedom, Please spread this anti-gun control
message to all your friends!
AND NEVER, NEVER, NEVER SURRENDER YOUR GUNS!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
NEVER SURRENDER YOUR GUNS!!!! NEVER!!!!!
IF YOU DO YOU WILL GET ENSLAVED AND KILLED BY THE GOVERNMENT.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
when this happens, im going out in a blaze O glory, or ill just go out and shoot myself
January 14th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
All I can say is “f--- Them”.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
My suggestion is to start building your own guns now!
Don’t have to register them.
Learn how:
http://www.thespectergroup.com/militarysales.htm
January 14th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
I don’t think Illinois-style gun-control is going to work well in Texas.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
#57 YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!!!! We all talk freely on the threads, but this sounds alot like CB radio talk. There are lots of people who open their mouth and complain, but never DO anything about it. In Benson, Az (little, teeny town) they had a meeting on Sunday on THEIR plan of action. Does anyone have an idea on how to band together? This revolution is growing very fast and it’s a shame we don’t have any leaders. I’m sure open to suggestions and if anyone has any, let’s hear about it. I know they will never get my weapons. Did anyone see actor David Spade gave the Phoenix police dept $100,000 to buy assault weapons cause they couldn’t find any? I don’t remember which alternative news media reported it, but this was only a week and half ago.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/
January 14th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
http://globalguerrillas.typepa.....uerrillas/
January 14th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Just as soon as I’ alone, then it’s time I disappear…
http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/.....f5707&
January 14th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
My buddy just hipped me to a new site with some awesome anti-nwo t-shirts. It looks pretty professional.
Everyone should check it out. I am ordering the Hillary Clinton and the Paul/Ventura 2012 shirts.
Here is the link: http://www.unitedfrontapparel.com (I had to type it into my address bar).
Best
Mike
January 14th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Well, If I had the money, I would be willing to go to DC and complain to congress about this kind of thing. Our Govt has massed so much power that they no longer represent the people as a whole, but a few select neocons and wealthy bankers. Just look at the elections process over the past 2 hundred yrs. In the beginning the 2 top canidates would be Pres and VP. This means that Obama would have McCain as a VP, good luck on gun control then. It is easy to fix elections and just as easy to grease the hands that make the laws. Add or Remove Pork from a bill to get it passsed, the Dems will offer some Repubs something like offshore drilling in exchange for this law. Then in about a year they will attack offshore drilling and offer a pay raise or a vote on a tax cut while adding pork taxes elswhere. Its a never ending cycle that we the people, the patriots of the real constitution, can not afford to allow anymore.
January 14th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Here is my suggestion for a plan of action-
1. If not already a member Join Gun Owners of America and GET INVOLVED in local and state efforts to defend the 2nd ammendment.
2 Join We Are Change and some of the other Patriot efforts to get the word out about what is going on in this country
3. Join the Appleseed Project
January 14th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Using pseudonyms is a juvenile practice that is encouraged because it destroys the concept of personal responsibility for one’s acts. What is the value of a comment if one doesn’t know its provenance? The Internet world has been made a pathetic, unreal domain frequented by shadows, rather than real women and men. The many bold or defiant statements made “anonymously” (anybody who really believes this is surely deluded!) on sites such as this are completely ineffectual. Who cares about what “nobody” has to say?
Why do the writings of, say, Paul Craig Roberts have an impact? Because he writes as himself, an identifiable individual. Would you pay any attention to what Alex Jones says if he broadcast under a false identity?
Idiotic role-playing is the greatest threat to our future, because when people cease to have a consistent identity, they cease to have meaning. Communication through the Internet has turned into mass suicide, voluntarily carried out by the unwary. People have been completely suckered into extinguishing their own power.
If the government was being assailed by millions of people proclaiming “I am So-and-so (REAL NAME!). I am an American citizen and I am asserting the power and responsibility this status gives me. I want the Constitution to be respected and any person who has conspired to subvert it to be prosecuted by my justice officials, who will also be considered culpable if they fail to act”, then they would be shaken in a way that millions of “heroes” cowering under pseudonyms can never achieve.
January 14th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
It’s looking more and more like Bobby Rush was the among globalist scum in the Black Panthers (who were supported by many globalist foundations as controlled opposition). I guess gun rights were acceptable for black revolutionaries in the 1960’s, but not so for law abiding citizens in the 2000’s.
January 14th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Almost every major gun control measure in the USA is cloned elsewhere a few weeks or months later. Many times gun control measures in Europe (where I live) are not even laws but merely arbitrary decisions of anyone having any authority. A local police official or city mayor will ban or restrict guns without the required lawmaking process. Which would only delay the problem and not solve it beause lawmaking bodies issue the same abuses under the guise of civilized rule.
My point is that if the Second Amendment is encroached upon, extremely vigilant euroleaders will notice it and use it as an excuse for more gun control here. That is, more victimization of innocents. Keep your gun rights to help us keep ours!
Pack a gun and pay no taxes.
January 14th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
The Constitution says and I quote “A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
The artical says and I quote “If passed, the law will amend the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act and prohibit a person from possessing a firearm unless that person has been issued a firearm license.” This infringes on the right of the people to keep and bear arms, it’s un-Constitutional! So stick it you bum’s, we have the god given right, not government given right to bear arms.
January 14th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Funny, moderate depression will let them ban your God-given right to owning a gun…
…but it won’t stop them drafting you… think on that
January 14th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
The elite’s hate our constitution. They will seek to destroy what’s left of it.
January 14th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
#81 thats why you have more gun control now. Because the Black Panthers of the 60’s read and understood the law and carried their weapons in protection of police brutality. So they pass laws to fobid weapon carring. Which is Ironic ,cause look at what happen on 1/1/09 in the Bay Area, incidently where the Black Panthers were started. A young black man was publicly executed. AND HE WAS UNARMED! Dig that.! Now if Black folk start holding up wepons in protection from police public executions, the Bobby Rushes will be quick to pass this amemdment to stop this mess, not because any law abiding citizen can carry one. Lets turn the coin over , who’s putting the guns and drugs in the Black community? I mean, are these young Black children smugggling the guns and drugs in the community? I don’t think so, its the imperialist.! They know what they are doing, its an systematic process to let the
black youth kill each other( just another hidden agenda)…. Smilezzzz, and its probably exicted people like yourself thats watching this in the media like its some sport. You know , I’m not mad at you or even the imperialist for that fact of the matter. But fyi, karma is a mother for ya, I’m talking about those who supports the genocide of the Black Man in America. Cause look at the state America is in as we speak. We need to stop thinking about race, as you can see , the Black Man is not worried about taking over America, Just Equal Justice thats all. I can really care less about Obama being president.My cause if to be treated fair,I use my Bible as a weapon, and trust me,I’m in the inter city supporting the grass roots efforts to end the senseless violence thats going on among our young Black children. But I have a tough fight, especially when I now have to deal with police public executions to unarmed Black youth.!
January 14th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
*** WHAT are the chances this guy lives behind a gate in a gated community!?
January 14th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
only posting to say, the image to follow through to this article is SO inappropriate! (the glock pointing directly at the man’s head)
January 14th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Are greatest Tresure of all For All U People And real PATRIOTS of All Decent is that Constitution and Bill of Rights Thats were the real GOLD IS without it we become SLAVES To the state AND U PEOPLE BETTER BE Prepare TO DIE FOR IT FEAR IS THERE Weopon .. BUT FOR ALL U PEOPLE THAT FALLOW THE LIGHT WE NEED TO INFECT ALL PEOLPLE IN THERE INSTITUTION IN Oder to activate A HIGHER LEVEL Of movement twoards protecting are RIGHTS. GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH. THERE IS GOOD PEOPLE THAT WILL NOT CARRY OUT EVIL.
January 14th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Well said # 87 royalT; What color you are is a NOT the Problem Its our GOV not going by the law but selectivly,so lets HOLD EVERY ON OF THEM TO THIS–>
READ CAREFULLY:”The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the land. The Constitution of the United States is the supreme law of the land, and any statue, to be valid, must be in agreement. It is impossible for both the Constitution and a law violating it to be valid; one must prevail. This is succinctly stated as follows: The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law, is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the time of its enactment, and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it. An unconstitutional law, in legal contemplation, is as inoperative as if it had never been passed. Such a statute leaves the question that it purports to settle just as it would be had the statute not been enacted.” “Since an unconstitutional law is void, the general principals follow that it imposes no duties, confers no rights, creates no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone, affords no protection, and justifies no acts performed under it.. A void act cannot be legally consistent with a valid one. An unconstitutional law cannot operate to supersede any existing valid law. Indeed, insofar as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law of the land, it is superseded thereby. No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it.”
Sixteenth American Jurisprudence, Second Edition, Section 177. (late 2nd Ed. Section 256)
UNITED WE STAND/DIVIDED WE FALL
Don’t you think our CHILDREN DESERVE IT
May the light of love giude your actions as a Citizen of the U.S.A and stand tall to the OATHS that GOOD Men & Woman have given thier lives up for
January 14th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Well Said #91……… Waken Up People is KEY!! Remeber they will carey out false flag even on U POlice .. soldiers goverment sheep they dont care who they sacrifice . Once Gov people figuire it out they will start to fall apart its Happening now the mis trust of there own gover workers……………………….. And on A very high rate. KEEP WORKING AT SPREADING THE WORD ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
January 14th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
This is very disturbing!
I have never owned a firearm before, but I plan on buying a good shotgun and pistol within the next week. I never thought I would ever succumb to such measures, but in light of the recent growing police state, cops that murder citizens, and the new anti-gun administration, what else can I do?
I guess the red flag went up when O’bama stated a few weeks ago that Americans did not or should not buy guns and ammo. Thanks Mr. Prez for helping me make up my mind!
Oh, and P.S. – F**K YOU and the Kenyan camel you rode in on!!!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
lock and load and be prepared wont be long now
January 14th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
lock and load and be prepared wont be long now
January 14th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
lock and load and be prepared wont be long now
January 14th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
This discussion we have going here is very heartwarming.
It seems that, the people who visit this site love to quibble about a lot of things, however on this subject the agreements are nearly unanimous.
That:
If the 2nd amendment falls, so does everything we know as the United States of America.
Your ‘kicked-in-the-head’ neighbor, you know, the one that thinks the ‘guvmint’ will fix everything,
is not going to make it….
The nwo (for lack of a better term) have pushed it a little too far a little too fast.
People are beginning to ‘awaken’ in unprecedented numbers.
And ,I would add, that as more and more of us lose our jobs and our homes we may find the time to join a group or go to a rally or a town meeting or even to just look further than the ‘network news’ and perhaps to discover people like Alex or Icke or Jason.
I again assure you,
There’s a storm coming…….
January 14th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Remember when we were little kids and we played cowboys and indians. Well now we can play cowboys and colored people. No pun intended. That should get something started. I don’t give a s--- what color you are or whatever. What really matters is that we all stick together to demand our RIGHTS. Enough of this Government crap from all levels. Skin-em alive.
January 14th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
I used to be an anti-gun liberal…I now know I was wrong and naive, and just bought my first rifle. I’m telling everyone about it (most people around me are peace loving hippie liberals) and they all say that we need to work on peace. Now I can’t stand people are the way I used to be. I believe in peace and peaceful means, but that doesn’t mean laying down and letting the government do whatever it will.
Today I was told not to get a gun because I need to only welcome peace into my life, and if I don’t think about anything bad or violent, then that won’t come into my life. Sometimes it’s hard to listen to these people.
January 14th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Well said #67 and #87,
The difference are that in the past black people in America was told that riffle associations were forbidden to them and today that it would be “no good”, “a crazies whitemen’s thing” and much Blacks end believing it letting be cheated.
Afro-American took a long way to have in the practice the right to carry weapons to self-protection. Before it they were easy prey like all other ethnic groups listed by #67 as the Palestinians today, in their own land since 1948.
In Brazil, the system with (off course) the support of traditional media tried in 2005 to ban the right the citizens have a gun. The People refuse it !!!
But Watchout! The elites will never quit and also will have no scruples in using naive and traumatized people to reach their objectives
January 14th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Thanks #30 What are they waiting for? Lets do this. The sooner the better. I don,t care anymore, these bastards are out of control. Americans work hard, believe in God and do all the right things thinking our Goverment will do the same. Its all a big lie. But wait (We are the Goverment, Goverment of the people ) How did we let this happen? Are we so stupid as to let these people slowly take are freedom and at the last moment want it back?
We better get a move on before our time runs out, or go down fighting. And fight we will.
January 14th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Remember this: The conniving politicians in Washington are NOT trying to pass these stinking gun control laws to protect us from one another. That’s just a smoke screen. They could care less if the American people want to kill each other with guns. You are dealing with the devil when you deal with the lying rats in Congress. The government and military maintain guns (like the M134, mini-gun) at arsenals that could be used to slaughter tens of thousands of innocent U.S. citizens in a matter of minutes. And, don’t think for one second that they wouldn’t hesitate to use them, if they thought the people were about to revolt. Killing people with guns is a government specialty. Never doubt it! What they really fear is this: The politicians know they have been defrauding and cheating the American people for years and now they are sincerely afraid of a violent revolution, (there are lots of rumblings) in which the people might start shooting a few ratsnake politcians. I can think of few that need to be shot. That is the real reason they want guns outlawed. To protect themselves! That is the only reason they are so desperate to disarm us. Keep your guns or lose your liberty, and your constitutional right to overthrown a corrupt and evil government, such as we have in Washington today!
January 14th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Its a time for gathering. Its a time to organize groups, thousands, hundreds of thousands. There arn’t enough cops to take us. No general who grew up protecting the constitution is going to kill citizens, there smarter than that. Not to say some wouldn’t !!! as a whole..
A lot really are waking up, all of our rehtoric and talking on here is positive, arguments are good.
People need to gather, farmers need to let this happen on there land. BLM land? Mass gatherings, why not? were not going to be able to do this alone when s--- hits the fan?
The people have a duty to protect the constitution, regardless. you know ! Thomas Jefferson would of already have organized an ARMY at the attempt of gun control today.
I think were scared to death to get our hands bloody. I don’t blood on my lawn more than the next guy. But when do the people act, when its all gone??
Look at post 67
theres figures for an unarmed citizen
I am at a loss
and I would rather be dead, honestly than see my constitution fall, without it, you would not be posting or reading this either.
January 14th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
My suggestion to Mr. Rush: if Illinois is having such a desperately difficult time with firearms in Illinois, then PLEASE restrict the good people of Illinois from purchasing firearms! As usual, those of us who cause no such trouble are forced to pay the same price as those without a civilized thought in their head!
One day I hope the sheeple of DC will find an original thought of their own. . . perhaps Mr. Rush could convince Mr. Roland Burris to initiate local legislation to get a grip on the citizenry of Illinois?
January 14th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Tar and feather the bastard. Rule no. 1: Criminals don’t obey gun laws. Rule no. 2: See rule no. 1. I’m sure the homies are going to bother to comply with this tripe when they are standing on the corner dealing guns and running dope. Yeah, right.
It’s time for civil disobedience. Mr. Rush: You are a public SERVANT. We are not your children; we are your BOSS. Keep your snot-picking fingers off of our Constitutional rights, dirtbag.
January 14th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
It is very likely that there will be civil war during Obama’s presidency for the reasons listed above.
January 14th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
The ONLY reason these nefarious politicians want to eliminate the “privately held firearms by law abiding citizens”, is to protect themselves from the masses, as they initiate laws that make all citizens criminals, unless they are asleep. Also, the prison system in the U.S. is now a big corporate business, with number in jail higher than any other developed nation. Also, if they can figure out a way to lock you up, they again feel safer as they eliminate dissent, hoping the rest will fall into lock step. THE FACT IS, “THEY” ARE AFRAID OF YOU, that the people will take up arms against the established government, and return it to A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC !!!!!
Of course, they will call this action INSURECTION, to try justifying sending out masses of militarized police, for the purpose of restoring law and order, when all they worry about is their own arses.
Well, as this financial breakdown exposes the criminals for who they really are. There is NO concern for the plight of the common citizen, as is evident by the trade agreements that have raped our industrial base of good paying and meaningful jobs, and the allowing of unfettered immigration, in an attempt to create a SLAVE class of workers. Hell, they are so stupid, that they cannot figure out why the so called CONSUMER has quit buying all of the imported junk , with credit no less !!!!
The people, however many that may be, will rise up against the tyranny imposed on the people of this nation, and as progress is made, more will join, and no matter what gun laws they may establish, if the law is not in line with the constitution, it will become irrelevant, WHAT PART OF INFRINGEMENT DO THEY NOT UNDERSTAND ??? As for me, NOBODY will ever get MY guns, or deprive me of life, liberty, persuit of happiness, or endanger anyone in my family.
STAND UP, TAKE AND KEEP WHAT IS YOUR “GOD GIVEN RIGHT” of self defense and protection from criminals !!!!!
Don’t be an armchair warrior, they have the guns, but WE have the numbers, it is five to one or one in five, or nobody here gets out alive !!
Hang together or be hung separately !!!!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
MORE CONTROL !!!
FCUK ALL ZIO-NEO-SCUM-BLOOD-SUCKERS & O”BAAA”MA BIN LADEN TOO !!!
* RON PAUL ….4…. PRESIDENT *
* ALEX JONES …4….VICE-PRESIDENT *
* ALAN WATT ……4… SECRETARY-OF-STATE *
* PETER SCHIFF…..4… TREASURY *
POWER 2 THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, 4 THE PEOPLE ..=.. REVOLUTION TIME
INFO-WARRIORS ……………………………ENGAGE THE INFORMATION WAR !!!
January 14th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
I see a lot of people “preaching” buying guns, getting ready etc etc. Folks, if you are serious, join a local group, a preparedness group or a militia. True they may be watched or identified, but if they grow with the ranks of good decent Americans, it alone will send a clear message.
You cannot stand alone, stand with others and seek a militia in your state. Its simple, a Google search of “citizen militia” and you will find one. Stop the keyboard commando stuff and stop hiding behind screen, seek others and be apart of an organization that will watch your six.
Rest assured someone you know is a member already.
Be not afraid, be not angry, seek the strength in numbers and be prepared the right way!
The Angry Conservative
Mississippi Minutemen
Mississippiminutemen.com
January 14th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
The govt is the master of guns and weapons, and if a civil war did break out, the govt has the ability to wipe out the masses, and they would. The govt does not give a s--- about you or me, they would even nuke a US state if they thought that the US state would be a threat to federal govt power and integrity. We are held hostage wether you like to believe this or not. People really, dont forget what happened in RUBY RIDGE, the govt will kill man woman and child, and the cops and soldiers will do so as well, dont give the govt a reason to come and shoot you like RUBY RIDGE, the govt has much bigger guns, and the govt is way more evil than the average american patriot. This battle is a spiritual one, Live as Jesus did and dont try to beat satan at his own game, you will lose. If you die here on this earth you have a heavenly home to return to, provided you lived a good life, and did not murder or harm innocent victims out of malice. The evil people in the govt, will have the opposite, evil people are tormented by demons at death, this is all true.
January 14th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Dissent is the highest form of patriotism…..
January 14th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
this rush guy is a dumb bastard he never read the CONSTITUTION Right To Bear Arms
January 14th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Best advice around 109,
Guns? yes..
Groups? “Essential”
Look at Gaza, no matter which side you choose, you can’t deny the fact that one of the most powerful armies on earth can’t defeat a much smaller, imprisoned army armed with bottle rockets ww2 guns and rocks.
Fighter jets with smart bombs and tanks don’t stand a chance against a people organised and with the commitment to never give up.
January 14th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
There is a 5 shot Revolver that fires a 410 gauge shotgun round…(Taurus Judge) Might be time for a 12 gauge version….
No matter what THEY do….there WILL BE a “loophole” the People can exploit…An loading tube (like in a Shotgun) to replace the Clip in a Semi-Auto Rifle anyone?
January 14th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
I don’t remember where this information came from but it is interesting -
Jewish Involvement in U.S. Gun Control Legislation, 1968 – 2008
Emanuel Celler – Jewish
1968: The Gun Control Act of 1968 comes from Rep. Emanuel Celler’s House bill H.R. 17735. It expands legislation already attempted by the non-Jewish Sen. Thomas Dodd. America’s biggest and most far-reaching gun law came from a Jew.
Howard Metzenbaum – Jewish
1988: Senate bill S. 1523 is sponsored by Senator Howard Metzenbaum. It proposes legislation turning every violation of the Gun Control Act of 1968 into a RICO predicate offense, allowing a gun owner to be charged with federal racketeering offenses. 1988: Senator Metzenbaum co-sponsors a bill — S. 2180 — to ban, or limit/restrict, so-called “plastic guns.”
Herb Kohl – Jewish
1990: Senator Herbert Kohl introduces bill S.2070, the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990, which bans gun possession in a school zone. The law will later be struck down in court as unconstitutional. 1993: Senate bill S.653 is sponsored by Sen. Howard Metzenbaum. It bans specific semiautomatic rifles, but also gives the Secretary of the Treasury the power to add any semiautomatic firearm to the list at a later date.
Chuck Schumer – Jewish
February, 1994: The Brady Law, which requires waiting periods to buy handguns, becomes effective. Senator Metzenbaum wrote the Brady Bill. Metzenbaum sponsored the bill in the Senate. The sponsor of the bill in the House was Rep. Charles Schumer [2]. 1994: Senator Metzenbaum introduces S.1878, the Gun Violence Prevention Act of 1994, aka “Brady II.” Rep. Schumer sponsored “Brady II” sister legislation [H.R. 1321] in the U.S. House of Representatives.
Dianne Feinstein – Jewish
September, 1994: The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 goes into effect, including a provision that bans the manufacture and possession of semiautomatic rifles described as “assault weapons.” [Note: true assault weapons are fully automatic, not semiautomatic]. That gun-ban provision was authored in the Senate by Senator Dianne Feinstein and authored in the House by Congressman Schumer.
Arlen Specter – Jewish
1995: Senators Kohl, Specter, Feinstein, Lautenberg and others introduce the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1995, an amended version of the 1990 school-zone law which was struck down in court as being unconstitutional.
Frank Lautenberg – Jewish
September, 1996: The Lautenberg Domestic Confiscation provision becomes law. It is part of a larger omnibus appropriations bill. It was sponsored by Senator Frank Lautenberg. It bans people convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence from ever owning a gun. 1997: Senate bill S. 54, the Federal Gang Violence Act of 1997, proposes much harsher sentences for people violating minor gun laws, including mandatory prison sentences and forfeiture of property. It was introduced by Dianne Feinstein and Senator [Hatch], among others. It returns the idea of turning every violation of the Gun Control Act of 1968 into a RICO predicate offense
Barbara Boxer – Jewish
January, 1999: Senator Barbara Boxer introduces bill S.193, the American Handgun Standards Act of 1999. January, 1999: Senator Kohl introduces bill S.149, the Child Safety Lock Act of 1999. It would require a child safety lock in connection with transfer of a handgun. February, 1999: Senator Frank Lautenberg introduces bill S.407, the Stop Gun Trafficking Act of 1999. February, 1999: Senator Lautenberg introduces S.443, the Gun Show Accountability Act of 1999.
Abe Levin – Jewish
March, 1999: Senator Lautenberg introduces bill S.560, the Gun Industry Accountability Act of 1999. March, 1999: Senator Feinstein introduces bill S.594, the Large Capacity Ammunition Magazine Import Ban Act of 1999. May, 2000: Senate bill S. 2515, Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2000, is submitted by Senators Feinstein, Senator Barbara Boxer, Sen. Lautenberg and Sen. Schumer. It is a plan for a national firearms licensing system.
January, 2001: Senate bill S.25, Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2001, is sponsored by Feinstein, Schumer, and Boxer. It is a nation-wide gun registration plan [apparently there were two versions of that Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act bill].
May, 2003: Senators Feinstein, Schumer, Boxer and others introduce legislation that would reauthorize the 1994 federal assault weapons ban, and, close a loophole in the law that allows large-capacity ammunition magazines to be imported into the U.S. The ban is scheduled to expire in September, 2004.
October, 2003: Senators Feinstein, Lautenberg, Levin [also Jewish] and Schumer co-sponsor bill S.1774, designed to stop the sunset [ending] of the Undetectable Firearms Act of 1988.
March, 2005: Senator Lautenberg introduces bill S.645, “to reinstate the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act,” in other words, to reinstate the 1994 assault-rifle ban [also known as the “Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994”] which expired in late 2004.
March, 2005: Senator Feinstein introduces bill S.620, “to reinstate the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act,” in other words, to reinstate the 1994 assault-rifle ban [also known as the “Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994”] which expired in late 2004.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
#113 You have some reason, remember the Finland resistence against Stalin’s army on Winter War between end of 1939 and beginning of 1940. That ‘victory’ cost so much to Red Army that Russians decided that was better let the Finns alone.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
IGNORANT OAF!!! Why the blazes do they passing more gun laws in America- not even the pistol?! They’re destroying the US Constitution?!?!? Why do they want to disarm law-abiding citizens? They want to defend themselves from tyranny! THINK AGAIN!!
January 14th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
When the crap hits the fan (20% unemployment, no money, hyperinflation, homelessness, lawlessness) and there is nothing left for many citizens, the federal gov’t and local ‘authorities’ simply don’t have the manpower, or the resources to handle an armed, pissed off citizenry. They (gov’t) know this and this is the reason for the continued errosion / chisling of the 2nd amendment.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
#67 your 110% correct!!!! WE must defend ourselves! Not as much from each other,but from the imperialists.!
January 14th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Indeed 116, history is full of such incidents.
Whenever people just gave up their gun rights,, they perished.
Whenever they refused,, they were victorious…
January 14th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
another dumb sambo, wait, that was rhetorical.
Monkey’s in the white house, we’re so screwed.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
They say its to protect the children.. When we all know its to protect their own sorry asses from retaliation when the american citizen finally snaps.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
119 I like your style!!!
Yea Gov’t has no problems getting their hands bloody….
there gonna do this by force if we wake up, which is something i’ll accept whole heartedly. but, if we gather and group up, they can not take us. Gov’t will string out the 2nd amendment ban over a course of 60 years if they have too??? A lot of it depends, well.. IT ALL depends how LONG WE want to take it.
An informed group in my eyes is the way to go, we would be seen as a total threat and possibly dealt with, I don’t know. Gather everyone, cause for a fact we can’t do anything alone.
Tyrannical people always go for disarming there foes, so it makes victory easy & swift. If tyrants had to actually fight the masses they would fail miserably. A lot of people say it doesn’t matter?? that is why we have this problem now, and it was framed into our 2nd just because of these Tyrants. Fathers were Damn smart. Smarter than us. In my eyes Were seeing a Revolution now, but its not 1776, its a disarming of citizens for a easy & swift take over.
Seriously, all of us need to take care of these gun control tyrants, its gonna keep coming until we stand up and STOP it. As a group, a Whole, Majority. If you disagree let me know! s--- Id love to hear some solutions. I joined NRA, GOA, OFF. Its not doing anything swiftly. My stress level has swiftly risen. If were there BOSS, we failed. But doesn’t mean were still not the boss.
Are you ok with a LOOPHOLE??? or reduced Magazines, confiscation, Denial by criminal offense, misdemeanors=no handguns?? certain states passing no handguns!!! uhhhh D.C. Lock & key=uh hang on MR. Criminal my safety lock is on, tick tock, ok criminal resume what you wanted to do?? crap my safety is on, do I have time to get a ROCK. Sorry about the rant, hopefully someone agrees with me?
January 14th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Come and get my guns, ya buncha neo-nazi, pinko lovin’, lousy new world order twits. You can have em after I melt the barrells off em… slug/buckshot/slug/buckshot/slug….Eat lead ya buncha homo elite!
January 14th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
“FROM MY COLD DEAD HAD” WAIT I FORGOT I AM ALREADY ONE OF THE WALKING DEAD HERE IN THE OPEN AIR PRISON WITHOUT WALLS, Under Satans Authority. I GUESS THAT MEANS I’M UNSTOPPABLE.
January 15th, 2009 at 12:08 am
When Guns are outlawed….Only Patriots will have Guns
January 15th, 2009 at 12:19 am
Watch your mouth dixie I see straight thru you, your messing with a wolf and that should be taught to you.
January 15th, 2009 at 12:34 am
The nature of Civil War is how citizens find the best way to govern themselves.
Nonetheless, it’s very likely, under some pretext, the U.S. NWO authorities will start the Draft again…
January 15th, 2009 at 12:39 am
damn,
I wrote a good comment and it never appeared,I wonder why?
You know I’ve noticed that sometimes my post won’t go through,but when I change my e-mail address in the box above,it begins posting again…anybody else experience this??
January 15th, 2009 at 12:43 am
I also wanted to say earlier that this guy should have that open mouth closer to the microphone and then he’d look busy doing his job of blowing politicians and banksters..
INFERNO
January 15th, 2009 at 12:50 am
N3 = never give up – never give in – never give up your guns! If they come for your guns, they will kill you or take you to their fancy camp for some fun. I will die protecting my family and if I have to die fighting, then so be it, they are asking for resistance. I do not want to fight them, but I will and it is really that simple.
January 15th, 2009 at 12:52 am
The artical states “They Don’t Understand”,
Trust me they DO understand, They’re not stupid
They know it’s not thelaw abiding citizens commiting crimes
They just want to disarm us so they can really start screwing us,
WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM BOBBY RUSH-FORMER BLACK PANTHER
January 15th, 2009 at 1:17 am
There is no authority in the Constitution allowing such a bill.
January 15th, 2009 at 1:42 am
Resisting Tyranny “There are many reasons why the Militia was thought to be ‘Necessary to the security of a free state,’ (among which is) when the able-bodied men of a nation are trained to arms and organized, they are better able to resist tyranny.” “(T)he founding generations knew… that the way tyrants had eliminated a militia consisting of all the able-bodied men was not by banning the militia but by simply taking away the people’s arms, enabling a select militia or standing army to suppress political opponents.
January 15th, 2009 at 3:19 am
I hear once again all this if they come for me I will defend myself and shoot what happened tpthe people that had their guns taken during Katrina, nothing, I mean nothing again and that is down southwhy did that taking of the guns not end or start the reveloution? I honestly do not get it can anyone tell me anything or opinion on why N.O. just let them have the guns? with no0 result and a police state and blackwater had their way?
is there a militia in N.O. I mean how much farther down south will one need to be?
January 15th, 2009 at 3:54 am
It’s coming. You can feel it. The SHTF soon. Will be New Civil war.
People have had it with the manipulation of our country.
More and more I talk to say……Time to Kill some people.
THEN they’ll understand we mean business.
January 15th, 2009 at 5:20 am
The clock is not ticking away for the Second Amendment. The clock is ticking for the Second Revolutiion.
If YOU won’t tell your government NO, who will?
January 15th, 2009 at 6:23 am
Some of you are pretty sharp.Other I hope can shoot better than you spell.Have you given the thought that a Militia is not only about killing, but those who will be tending to the wounded?Why is nobody STARTING the KILLING? Are you that quick to get killed.1st organize.You don’t even NEED a ton of guns.You just need to know how to use what you have and then take thiers.Even if we DIDN’T have inhouse rodents we counld be facing a FORIEGN invader who won’t give a rat’s ass about killing abunch of unarmed Americans.THIS is TRACKING.Don’t submit to it.In RED DAWN they used the gov. registration forms to locate all Armed Americans and kill them.Don’t Bury your guns.They won’t do any good underground and they will just arrest your unarmed ass and Interogate you.Keep them away from children if you keep them loaded.Please nomore talk of Amateur gunsmithing.If you don’t really know what you’re doing you will just get hurt and probably others arround you will too.Stop PLUGGING YOUR DAMENED BUSINESSES HERE.It’s not Scam-Mart.We can download your MANUALS alover the web.If you are not formaly trained then just get a Gun and learn how to use it.Nothing says “We Mean Business.” like the sound of gunfire all arround the country.Now as for this “LAW” they want and the draft? It’s simple mind over matter.I don’t mind and they don’t matter.I can Write that I’m Immortal , but enforcing that lie is the real problem.It will start in uptight sheeple states.Places where they Ban all sorts of actions.States where people are “Civilized”.Here’s a little advice.Get one of those newer muzzle loaders.Those are 50 cal and you can melt and cast your own Ammo so it’s really just a matter of Having enough blackpowder and primers.They have a HELL of a range and can fire a wide variety of projectiles.You don’t need 300 rounds.Just a few well placed shots.And if you can stay out of THIER RANGE then it’s a Turkey Shoot.I keep my Bolt Action 30.06 loaded , and the Bolt in my Pocket.It slaps right in and if kids find it then it’s inoperable and safe.However in my family children stay out oth any room where such things are kept and respect thier elders.Not due to abuse , but due to the fact that we were raised to know that elders say things to keep the younger ones safe from harm.Some of YOU scare me though.You sound like you’re just ACHING to shoot someone…The key is to NOT GET SHOT YOURSELF.I love all life.Especially my own.So stop Freaking out.If they come then they come.Spazzing out will just wear you down between now and then.
January 15th, 2009 at 6:43 am
People, I was serious about felons being EXEMPT from gun registration laws. Look up SCOTUS case Haynes v. U.S. (1968) & be educated. It seems that a felon going to register a firearm is being compelled to incriminate himself, a violation of the 5th amendment. The courts know of this ruling. So do the lawmakers. SO what is the purpose of such legislation?
The government wants to track gun OWNERS. Keep an inventory of what they own. Compile an impossible labrynth of laws guaranteed to make you a felon. Then they can swoop into your home & grab your guns. A great plan, fix the laws, make you a criminal, take your guns.
Store some of your guns & ammo in sealed PVC pipe. Bury them somewhere secure. They can’t grab what they can’t find. Retrieve them at the right time. We stand together! MOLON LABE!
January 15th, 2009 at 7:06 am
To #110 icculus:
I’ll never forget RUBY RIDGE. I know the Weavers and the damages incurred went way beyond the murders. (You forgot about the dog.) That beautiful, tight family will forever be damsaged and paranoid. God bless them
January 15th, 2009 at 8:37 am
I live in the peoples republic of illinois and in my experience these half-wit politicians don’t have the guts to go after the people selling dope on street corners and murdering their children. Instead they focus on legal gun shops and legal gun owners. Why don’t you start arresting the scum in your own south side neighborhood. They are the people who have made Chicago the murder capital. However, Black Panthers don’t do that. They would rather go after decent people of european ancestory.
I CURSE YOU BOBBY RUSH!
January 15th, 2009 at 8:57 am
“NOT ON MY WATCH” #38,since you’ve criticized the spelling of others,I’ll correct yours.
You’ve misspelled: FOREIGN
COULD
INTERROGATE
THEIR
THEIRS
DAMNED
FORMALLY
AROUND
Anyway,regarding the article about guns,we either “hang together”,or we’ll certainly “hang seperately”.
Never register them,never give them up.
They are your last line of defense from tyranny and oppression.
January 15th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Hey #138 you have more errors in your post than any of the others. Even your sentence about spelling has spelling errors, lol, you dumbass. I didn’t even get the point of your message because I was too busy laughing at all the spelling mistakes in your post.
January 15th, 2009 at 11:46 am
We have to figure out how to get gun dealers out of the Federal jurisdiction mess. That’s how the Feds are enforcing all these phony unconstitutional mandates against gun ownership. I think if we could get a sharp attorney to challenge this jurisdictional issue is the key. The Feds only have jurisdiction in Washington D.C. according to the Constitution. We, including gun dealers should be able to ignore anything they try to impose. But we all must stick to our guns, so to speak. Oh yeah, who gives a fat rat’s ass if someone posting something on this website gets the spelling wrong. Stay ON POINT. Anybody out there got any ideas how to get the word out to masses? I mail stuff every day, but am always looking for other ways to acomplish this task.
January 15th, 2009 at 11:49 am
I’ve seen and heard just about all I can stand from the public safety’ cabal we call politicians whether Dem or Repub. If times are becoming as such we might be upon the verge of a Second Civil War, what do you do? What is one to do when you receive that infamous ‘knock on the door’ and you’re armed, and more importantly, you live in a city where the average asshole-citizen really doesn’t support you or your political stances on liberty and freedoms? In fact, ‘they’ are part of the problem because year after year, they ‘vote’ for the same dickheads every 4 years. Ironically, I live in Philadelphia-birth place of the Constitution..What do you do? I just don’t know. Loooking for answers.
1789
January 15th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Bury em my ass!!!!
Water the tree of Liberty with Blood of Patriots and Tyrants.
MOLON LABE
A Patriot is a Militiaman who readies himself everyday with Quiet Fury!
VNV
January 15th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Coming out of IL go figure: Lets look at some quick facts about that state:
Senators: Barack Obama & Dick Durbin
Representative: Jesse Jackson, Jr.
Illinois Governor: Rod Blogojevich (arrested )
Illinois House leader: Mike Madigan
Illinois Attorney General: Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike)
Chicago Mayor: Richard M. Daley (son of Mayor Richard J.
Daley)
The leadership in Illinois?… . all Democrats.
Combat zone in Chicago:
Body count in the last six months: 292 killed (murdered) in Chicago; 221
killed in Iraq
State pension fund – $44 Billion in debt, worst in the country.
Cook County (Chicago) sales tax – 10.25% highest in country. (Look it up).
Chicago school system – rated one of the worst in the country.
Of course, they’re all blaming each other. They can’t blame Republicans
because there aren’t any.
This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois. And he’s
going to ‘”fix” Washington politics for us?
January 15th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
***REPENT, the end of life as you have known it ,, is near. This is your last warning.John3:36
January 15th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
The more they threaten to make restrictive gun laws the more citizens prepare.
1.5 million background checks since the election says The People don’t intend
to back down. Governments have always made tyrannical laws and armed
people is the only thing that really protects all are other rights. They have proved that
they can and will murder innocent familys at reclusive cabins with a small army.
What they really have trouble with are armed and angry citizens that outnumber
them 400 to 1. One armed to the teeth Devil Dog per 400 pissed off and armed
citizen are odds they can not deal with.
January 15th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
good thing joe bidens’ [beretta] shotgun will be safe…
January 15th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
These pigs in Chicago are the worst…..and now the Chicago Machine has gone national.
I have been waiting 2 months for my firearms renewal license…..whenever I call the state of illinois, it’s just a busy signal….all the time.
IT’S time for me to move to a RED state….are there any left??
January 15th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Armed people are citizens. Unarmed people are Slaves.
January 15th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
WISE UP! THEY (governments and globalist elites) WANT YOU DISARMED SO THEY CAN SICK THEIR CRIMINAL MINIONS ON YOU AND… WELL YOU KNOW THE REST.
January 15th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
DUDES & DUDETTES, Let me clarify. I do not say bury them ALL, I say bury SOME. Does anyone think confiscations will be well publicised??? Any military tactician will tell you that resupply is VITAL! Do you really think that the government will respect your home while you are out resisting? Do you plan on taking EVERY gun you own with you? And ALL your ammo? Use your head & PLAN FOR THE LONG RUN. Keep some out for today, keep some safe for tomorrow.
January 16th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Nice idea—–WRONG METHOD
If we want to make this world safer, lets get the courts to prosecute criminals, especially those using a fire arm to the maximum. How will making law abiding citizens register and possess paper work for firearms a safer place. It won’t!!!!!! But prosecuting and making felons and throwing the key away if someone uses a firearm to commit a crime will. If we use the logic of HR45, then lets make all 4-door black Ford 250 pickup trucks a qualifying (dangerous) vehicle and make owners and operators submit to safety training and additional licensing, and if they let someone else borrow or use the truck they have committed a felony. My 20 yr old son was killed at the hands of someone else. He was a passenger in Ford 250 pickup. Make sense —–neither does HR45……
January 23rd, 2009 at 4:49 am
Mine is ready and cashed in a safe place. I will deal with the blk market to get more if needed. Bring it on my lovelies.
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:14 pm
And the criminals that are guilty of doing the killings, will still have their guns and NO ONE will know who they are. The honest citizen that wants to protect his home and family is, somehow, looked at as the bad guy. Go figure???????????
February 18th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Funny how nobody mentions that the killing that this bill is names for happened in a city with the most restrictive guns laws in the country. Can’t these people figure out that gun control doesn’t reduce violence but actually encourages it?
February 20th, 2009 at 10:53 am
The reason a foreign army has not attempted to invade this great county for two hundred years is because we have the right of gun ownership. They would not dare. Why don’t we enforce the gun laws already on the books. Keep your hands off my guns.