Internet news pioneer Matt Drudge made an impromptu appearance on the Alex Jones Show Tuesday and offered to switch places with Edward Snowden if Hillary Clinton is elected president.

During the 40-minute interview, the Drudge Report proprietor riffed on a variety of political topics and current events. He decried the present state of journalism and praised his and Jones’ willingness to go against the grain of the mainstream media.

On the topic of the presidential race, Drudge said that he is “very pessimistic,” calling Clinton, the Democratic front-runner, “the dreaded brain in the jar in the Oval Office.”

“I’ve got a long history with these people,” Drudge said of the Clintons. The Florida-based web guru rose to fame in the late-1990s after breaking the story of Bill Clinton’s affair with Monica Lewinsky.

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