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Indiana Guidelines Would Let Patients Die During Flu Pandemic
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Dan Carden
NWI Times
November 2, 2009
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The goal would be to save the most lives as possible, according the Indiana State Department of Health.
But a draft copy of Indiana’s “Altered Standards of Care” guidelines reveals that if faced with overwhelming demand, Indiana hospitals would establish what amount to “death panels.”
A “triage review officer” would decide who gets access to hospital staff and equipment and, likely, who lives and who will die.
In a pandemic emergency, hospital patients and those seeking care would be scored every day using a system known as the Sequential Organ Failure Assessment. The same system would be used across the state to ensure accountability and gain public confidence, according to the August 2008 draft guidelines.
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November 2nd, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Is civilization on a run away train…??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1k-qDH6Xoo
whitemale08 Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:53 pm
These ‘DEATH PANEL’ guidelines were drafted by Ezy-kill Emanuel, Obama’s health-care advisor.
This is what happens when we don’t call the White House and demand that Ezy-kill be fired and Larry Summers be dumped into the middle-of-the-street.
James Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:34 pm
I challenge you vaci poison freaks to come and try and stick me with one of your needles. I will shove it deep up your NWO ass! I am an anti NWO troll…hows that you frigin Bilder Berger ass holes!
Done With It! Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:10 pm
You go James! Many of us out here bro!
Bud Bundy Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:20 pm
AMEN JAMES IM WITH YA!
useplastic-sheets2Bsafe Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 11:50 am
Picture of student nurses passing out cyanide tablets at “South Bend General Hospital”
http://www.rosievoodoodoll.co......e_girl.jpg
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Unfortunately, triage is a neccessity in the real world. Ain’t pretty, but you do what ya gotta do. This, combinied witht the New Health Care must be how they plan on financing/reforming social security.
Unconquered Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Yep Mac, you are correct. It’s a fact of life if demand paces supply and that is EXACTLY what’s going to happen if we put illegals on our socialized healthcare. But hey, I’m a fearmongerer and heartless because I can see that the light at the end of the tunnel is actually a freight train coming right at us.
Mac-101 Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:48 pm
It’s amasing how with the unemployment rate increasing and severly unreported, combined with the extremely unpleasant experienced of an emergency room visit should be galvanizing Americans to scream that illegals need not be covered with health care. It is not. They need to be medically taken care of in the emergency room, then deported!
Who was BILL COOPER? Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:03 pm
I have proudly DONATED my H1N1 Vaccine allotment for myself and my family to ILLEGAL ALIEN’s.
Bud Bundy Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Yes give a illegal Healthcare sucking/ jobs that no one wants to do- taking, Illegal MEXICAN Alien who jumped the fence and whom has a rough life my allotment of vaccine as well .
Unconquered Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:15 pm
I have to respectfully disagree. They DO NOT need to be taken care of in the emergency room. Doing so would still raise costs because ER will need to recoup the loss somewhere (ie: passing on the cost to you and me). If illegals know they can still get treatment in the US they will continue to come here making us a sanctuary state/nation. We already had a city hospital pull up stakes and move to the ‘burbs because they were losing so much money b/c they are FORCED to take anyone whether they can pay or not.
JO JO BINKS Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:43 pm
EMAIL ADDY IS BLOCKING ME, SO TRY ozz y man 1203 at ho t mail is u need… BUT THIS “NATION” IS GONNA LOOK BAD, FAIRLY SOON, BUT AS LONG AS PEOPLE CAN COME TO “REALIZE”.. WE ARE SO MUCH MORE ALIKE THAN DIFFERENT AND THE ONE THING THE GLOBAL ELITE “NEED” IS DIVISION, THUS DIVIDE AND CONQUER, WE MUST COME TO UNITE, I STRONGLY SHALL STAND BY MY SINCERE THOUGHTS… ALL THE ELITE “NEED” TO BE HUNG, OTHERWISE, THEY “WILL” TRY AND TRY OVER AND OVER UNLESS… THEY ARE DEAD!
Done With It! Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Right on Jo Jo!
'ren Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:11 pm
agreed jojo, everyone needs to understand that it is not the people of any nation, its their gvts and the elites that are the evildoers. the average person anywhere on earth just wants to live in peace with their loved ones. the elite hate us for it because they have lost the ability to know love.
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Talk about a cruel and barbaric culture. I think I will excuse myself.
Unconquered Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Cruel and barbaric? Try reality. Not reality TV, but real life. Read this story about the doctors and nurses who worked tirelessly to save as many patients as possible at Memorial Medical Center in NOLA during Katrina. Read about the heartrending decisions that had to be made when deciding who had the best chance of survival vs. those who didn’t. Read about the 100+ degree temps in the hospital when the electricity was out and the sewage filled water was rising and the healthcare professionals got NO HELP evacuating the patients. Read about the doctors manually pumping air into patients when the auxiliary backup generators finally gave out. Read about the nurses having to wheel bodies into the chapel crying and praying with the chaplain. AND THEN read about Dr. Pou who was held responsible for the death of 4 patients who were given painkillers to help them with their suffering.
http://www.propublica.org/feat.....morial-826
So go ahead and excuse yourself from reality. Because this is what healthcare rationing and “death panels” really mean.
'ren Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:13 pm
well put unconquered.
Mac-101 Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:13 am
Good one, I also thought the doctors and nurses were heros in staying behind and sacrificing for their patients. What was their reward ? We Sh*t on them. It proves the old adage that no good deed goes unpunished!
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Watch Fall Of The Republic in full version and educate yourself online at: http://www.joemarquis.com/videos.htm
I took the time to build an area within my own business website where you can educate yourself by watching in Highest Quality full versions of Alex Jone’s and other’s DVD’s. A great place to start if your new or old and want to learn about the New World Order.
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Leave america b4 christmas PPLLEEASSEEE
http://video.google.co.uk/vide.....amp;hl=en#
Done With It! Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Horus Heru Amen Ra, you must understand something here. This is my home! I will fight to the death to save her! I will not leave her in this time of need! All races unite! We’ll give them a new world order, of the PEOPLE and by the PEOPLE! We must rid our world of this scum!
Mac-101 Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 am
Mr Done, The NWO works HARD at making everyone dependent on the gov and to break everyone into small self identity groups so they can be easily manipulated. Use to be BALKINIZATION. FDR established the program in the US and it is being refined continuously. Don’t fall for it. Reach out to everyone. Most resonable minority people I talk to in an un PC way also agree and are beginning to realise that they, as long as the rest of us are being played. This is still the time for INFORMATION. Wake up the SHEEPLE!
Bud Bundy Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:34 pm
And go Where? I say stay and Arm UP to the MAX and let NWO Bilderberg Natzis just try and control us. JUST TRY you peaces of SHIT!
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Barry’s snake oil…??? 1313 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVh75ylAUXY
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
The Mother Of All Secrets can be seen here:
http://endtimesdeception.blogs.....-play.html
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:19 pm
better not go to the hospital if thats the case you would have a better chance in the woods eating herbs, or if you have money to go to the health food store wile you can as they may try to close them down,sometimes the herbs that grow on there graves is the plants that could have saved them.
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Boom Boom Boom Ratt tit tatt tatt Boom Boom Boom
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PLAY THAT NEW WORLD ORDER MUSIC WHITE MAN!!
Done With It! Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:32 pm
DJ-Bee, this isn’t about race man! You are being part of the problem with these kinds of statements. All races need to unite! Division is what they want, don’t you see that? Transcend your intolerance DJ-Bee and be part of the minds who are FREE!
322skull Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Hay …..done with it …. That was Prince mens rea nux vomica….322
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Don’t forget the bioflavonoids to activate your vitamin C.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:41 pm
################ 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB ################
Al-Qaeda and Taliban are pawns of the U.S. high ranking psychopats and world scum elite that works for the destabilisation of countrys (PURPOSE: ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT WITH A “ONE WORLD BANK” RUN BY THEM [TO ENSLAVE THE WHOLE WORLD POPULATION AND CARRYING OUT THE EVIL AGENDA ON THEM: ENDGAME]). CIA goes as a “mainstream” terrorist
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1543798/US-funds-terror-groups-to-sow-chaos-in-Iran.html
presstv.ir/detail/98327.htm?sectionid=351020401
presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=109453§ionid=351020101
infowars.com/madsen-taliban-imported-to-conduct-false-flag-terrorism-in-iraq
prisonplanet.com/articles/may2007/280507usesalqaeda.htm
prisonplanet.com/al-qaeda-are-pawns-of-the-us-military-industrial-complex.html
infowars.com/western-governments-funding-taliban-al-qaeda-to-kill-us-troops-destabilize-countries
blogs.reuters.com/global/2009/08/13/who-is-funding-the-afghan-taliban-you-dont-want-to-know
infowars.com/iran-captures-cia-terrorists
infowars.com/articles/ww3/iran_us_uses_al_qaeda_to_attack_iran.htm
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1552784/Bush-sanctions-black-ops-against-Iran.html
corbettreport.com/articles/20090623_destabilization.htm
infowars.com/iranian-interior-minister-western-intelligence-behind-riots-and-unrest
infowars.com/former-pakistan-general-us-supports-jundullah-terrorists-in-iran
globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13325
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7942G_x-So
blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/04/abc_news_exclus.html
blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/05/bush_authorizes.html
abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3206417
youtube.com/watch?v=_wg3r2YSM9g
Events like 9/11, the London Bombings and the Madrid Bombing were ALL accompanied by Security/Military EXERCISES which paralleled the real events
historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&before_9/11=militaryExercises
historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=vigilant_guardian
…
Nano Thermite found in WTC dust
stj911.org/press_releases/ActiveThermiticMaterial.html
ae911truth.org/info/51
russiatoday.com/Politics/2009-07-09/Did_nano-thermite_take_down_the_WTC.html
################ 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB ################
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:47 pm
what a job” being doctor death”
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Best way to fight this system is to try and not get sick, buy tons of vitamins, research herbal cures and do preventative medicine, like vitamins, etc. This is what I do. Now when I dont take my vitamins I feel sick and down.
VITAMINS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT!!!
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:39 pm
PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!
November 2nd, 2009 at 8:53 pm
News Flash!!!!
The movie Soylent-Green was not a SiFi movie. They even
got the date close (30 years ago) 2022.
Mac-101 Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:19 am
Good one!
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:01 pm
I have an urgent message for you, more important than any message you can hear. God is Holy and cannot accept sin(honor thy mother and father…, thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit adultery, thou shall not steal, thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor, thou shall not covet..etc…Exodus 20:12-17). Here are some verses that show examples of sin:
“Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.” Matthew 5:21-22
“Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.” Matthew 5:27-28
“It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.” Matthew 5:31-32
“For ALL have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” Romans 3:23. Your good deeds cannot cover up your bad deeds.
“But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.” Isaiah 64:6
“As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.” Romans 3:10-12
You could be perfect in all the law and stumble at one point and it is as if you broke all of them:
“For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.” James 2:10
“Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.” James 4:17
God wrote the law on each man’s heart so they are without excuse on judgment day when we will ALL stand before Christ(”Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another” Romans 2:15). The penalty of sin is death and eternal punishment in the LAKE OF FIRE. I am warning you about hell because I love you! You are dead in your sins and headed for hell which is described in the Word as a FIRE THAT QUENCHES NOT(”…the fire is not quenched” Mark 9:44). It is a horrible and terrible place of everlasting torment that people will go because of their sins.
“And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.” Luke 16:22-24
“In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;” 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9
But God has provided a way for each to escape the lake of fire. He sent his Son Jesus(God manifest in the flesh-1 Timothy 3:16) who was conceived by a virgin by the Holy Spirit of God,lived a sinless life, and suffered a horrible death/shed blood and rose again 3 days later to take the penalty of YOUR sins so you dont have to pay for them in hell for eternity! He loved you so much which is why he did it! He is the only one to have fufilled the law perfectly(sinless) and paid the price of the entire world’s sins so that man could be saved on the merits of His perfection(see Romans 5:19). All you must do to be saved is BELIEVE in Him(trust in Him to save you as a sinner). You must admit your lost sinful condition to Him/that you’re worthy of hell, and ask Him to save you by placing complete trust in Jesus ALONE for salvation(an example in the Word of someone doing this- “And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.” Luke 18:13).It is not even partly by yourselves that you can be saved, but only by the merits of Jesus Christ!
“For God so loved the world, He sent his only Begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life” John 3:16.
“And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world” 1 John 2:2
“…Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,” Revelation 1:5
“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” 1 Corinthians 15:3-4
“Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas, And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.” Acts 16:29-31
“But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.” Romans 4:5
“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.” Romans 10:9-10
No works or anything you do can save you! May God open your eyes, that one day I may see you in heaven. Read the Word of God(the 1611 King James version- NOT the modern versions, they are corrupt) before rejecting it! Death is fleeting. You may NOT have tomorrow! For death comes when we least expect it! Make sure you are saved TODAY! The Bible condemns the rich, the wealthy, and those who take advantage of the poor, so it CANNOT have been made up by the elite. Because the Word clearly CONDEMNS people such as those! It declares all mankind as sinners(myself included).
I am a Christian, and love you enough to warn you of the dangers of hell. Beware, the Roman catholic church is NOT Christian! The church CANNOT save you but only Christ! Just because someone says they are a Christian does not necessarily mean they are one(remember the crusades in history? Many were murdered in the name of Christianity. These were no Christians at all by their testimony). Please email me to inquire more. I would be glad to help you out in your search for truth!(my email- livingwaters705@hotmail.com)…To those who slander/mock me, I pray for you and love you anyways and hope you will trust Christ before its too late!
I call upon my fellow Christians on here to return hate posts with love and blessings. The Lord commands us to love them:
“Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.” Matthew 5:43-45
Salvation is not found in good works, rituals, church, the pope, water baptism, good lives, etc….But ONLY found by faith in Jesus Christ the Savior!
If you need prayer or anything, just let me know! I would be glad to help! I love and care for you, and I have prayed that every person that reads this who do not know the Lord, would one day turn to Christ in faith for salvation for their sins. I beg you to turn to Christ in faith before it is too late! You get ONE chance while living and then it is too late forever:
“And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:” Hebrews 9:27
“And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:32
“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” John 14:6
“…there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.” Isaiah 45:21-22
“And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.” Revelation 22:17…….
John Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 6:47 am
We sudied the book of Revalation in church Sunday. I’m not waiting for the anti-christ, I’m waiting for Jesus Christ!
John Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 6:47 am
“studied”
November 3rd, 2009 at 6:31 am
I wonder what would happen when an illegal immigrant is to be admitted into the hospital for H1N1 virus, and they let the American with heart failure die?
Can hospitals really afford to do something like this? Illegal immigrants are notorious for leaving hospitals without paying for medical treatment.
November 3rd, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Keep religion out of it, its humans versus humanity… religion is just a mind altered state… most wars were caused by the stuff.. millions died for the stuff.. time to get proactive and focus on Living and Life… keep religion low keyed.. it wont help you when they come with their needles…