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    Daniel Luban and Jim Lobe
    IPS
    September 12, 2009

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    As nuclear negotiations between Iran and the West continue to move slowly, U.S. President Barack Obama is coming under growing pressure from what appears to be a concerted lobbying and media campaign urging him to act more aggressively to stop Iran’s nuclear programme.

    Obama has given Tehran an end-of-September deadline to respond substantively to his offer of diplomatic engagement. But already hawks in the U.S. – backed by hardline pro-Israel organisations – have pressed him to quickly impose “crippling” economic sanctions against Tehran, and some are arguing that he should make preparations for a military attack on Iranian nuclear facilities.

    The pressure campaign kicked off in earnest this week. On Thursday, hundreds of leaders and activists from the U.S. Jewish community descended on Washington to lobby for harsher sanctions, while widely-publicised media reports suggested that Iran is already nearing the verge of a nuclear capability.

    Leaders from Jewish groups came for a national “Advocacy Day on Iran”, during which they met with key Congressional figures.

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    162 Responses to “Iran: War Drums Begin Beating in Washington”

    1. Monster mash Says:

      Well if Israel wasn’t such scum they would have nothing to worry about…

      sandie Reply:

      site whatdoesitmean.com has a shocking story on this. top in red and uncensored. love sandie

      showmebby Reply:

      I took a good look at this sight, and it looks like allot of speculation. It is a good read though. The thing I didnt like was the symbolism, lack of proof on some of your theories, and cultish points of view. Thanks , Ill keep coming back to Infowars.

      malestrom Reply:

      i love that site, it’s so clearly disinfo… but you can never be sure. great story on how jacko was murdered by emp weapon because he was about to go public on 911.

      el nino Reply:

      with EMP? what, did he have a pacemaker or was he a cyborg???

      FreedomOfSpeech Reply:

      I don’t get it.. Iran’s leader has nothing on this guy:

      http://www.flickr.com/photos/4.....otostream/

      EEK!!!

      Solutions Reply:

      Depends malestrom

      If he had if he had one of those mail boxes where one throws ping pong balls with numbers on them.

      The other day I got a miniature, busted fan belt back and it tells me a real lot.

      It just depends.

      Jacko did a no – no in his last big performance just before – - -
      At the opening of his performance, he impersonated an angel descending onto the stage with a huge backdrop of stained glass as big as the Vatican. That’s a no – no and is a “taken “Q” bigger than the lady in a pok a dot dress.

      Oh my goodness, did not mean to spill any beans, but when the WTC collapsed, that was also a, “registered Q.”

      But don’t you know that stealing another’s “Q” demands the death penalty, same as stealing another’s horse and the horsemen do not fool around and only they are allowed to deliver the mail.

      justjosh Reply:

      EMP weapons do not kill people, the very worst an EMP weapon could do was knock you senseless. EMP weapons target electronics specifically, and unless he had something like a pacemaker, it wouldnt have done much at all.

      CyBerndt Reply:

      Sandie, Thank You. The more info we can get, the better prepared we can be.

      rexmundi Reply:

      Sandie,

      Why spend your time reading wild eyed speculation, when we verifiably have criminal elements in our government blowing up buildings, and poisoning the food, air and water?

      We’re on the verge of martial law over this pig flu, and you’re reading 12th hand reports out of the Kremlin about Obama wanting to micro chip everyone?

      I have stated for years that a micro chip would be the price of admission to Universal Health Care, and the Government would end up renting you your house.
      But that is all based on tea leaves, and speculation. Pulling the future out of current events.
      But I do not go around talking like that unless I specify I am speculating, and that site purports their unsourced material as fact.

      Please learn the difference between the two.

      Many people will be visiting this site this weekend for the first time, thanks to Charlie.

      How about putting our best face forward.

      Georgette Orwell Reply:

      I’m with you 100%, rexmundi As you say, speculation should be stated as such, just as factual information should be cited with clear references, as is the norm on Infowars.

      Speculation is simply another word for [conspiracy] theory and sites like whatdoesitmean should be reserved for entertainment, not truth seeking.

      kj Reply:

      rexmundi, good point about a lot of new people visiting this site not only this weekend but from here now on. I like to speculate just as much as the next person but we really need to show those sitting on the fence that we are not a bunch of crazys. We really do thirst for the truth and that we are the true patriots in this country, that we love our county or fellow citizens and that we are determined to see that our county is returned to its people.

      Solutions Reply:

      Kj, the truth can only be fully realized when properly framed.

      Learning to differentiate the many look-alike frames in order to get a match, is hard work and sometimes the detours are real.

      What is only speculation to the many, is at times the day to day high light and main feature of others. Since everyone wakes up in progressive stages, it all depends upon the audience – reader, what they are capable of and to whom the message is really intended for.

      Now that ping pong ball has a #9 marked on it, so lets see what the manchurians do. Some zombie will pick it up.

      Solutions Reply:

      For a more complete frame so everyone can get a handle on the undisclosed agenda and I know it’s a lot to digest, would it ever be appropriate to mention the Georgia Guidestones and Memorandun 200, since they both explain where Obama’s health care plan is headed? I know they are both viewed a lot like Operation Nortwoods as far, distant and unrelated. But, with the way Chenny was going to pant military boats and use them as a false flag off of Iran, the more we know, the better.

      What at first appears to be a near silent whisper, becomes the howl of a mighty hurricane.

      Opie Reply:

      It’s amazing how many people on this site know nothing of their Judeo-Christian history. The only ally that the West has in the Middle-East is Israel. The only nation that shares our understanding of freedom, law, religion, economics, and culture…is Israel.

      I suggest all of you hateful people save up your money, get a passport, buy a plane ticket, and move to Saudi Arabia or Yemen for about 10 years and then write a book about the non-Israeli paradise that you’ve been living in and enjoying.

      And please don’t respond with a racist slur—it only amplifies the exposure of your vast ignorance.

      rudibr Reply:

      Our “understanding of freedom” ?
      Our “understanding of law” ???
      Our “understanding of economics” ???????

      !!!!!!

      Russian Reply:

      It would be much better to move you & the rest of the Jews to Israel so we, the Nordic white people, could be living in peace and harmony (without your Madoff’s and other jewish f… rocking the financial & political boats in the world!!!)

      Paradox Reply:

      Zionist Jews need to go..all of them..put them in Israel and let them fend for themselves..without any more of our fucking tax dollars going to that hellhole…

      Opie Reply:

      Ah,ah,ah….You didn’t read what I said about racial slurs and your ignorance! But I suppose that cannot be helped. As for me, I can see myself one day emigrating to Israel to help the Jewish people (especially in their hour of need–should that time arrive). And for the record (although I hate bringing myself to your level) I am TEN TIMES the Nordic that you are—and I can think with logic and reason, devoid of prejudice and hatred.

      Now for some of my (non)-Nordic fortune-telling skills: I envision you this evening responding quite predictably with hateful rancor to my post. I see you in your late 20’s to mid-30’s, spouseless and childless, bemoaning the great Jewish conspiracy and the rise of the nordic master race while never failing to blame all those nordic females for failing to recognize you as the supreme-godlike-catch that you see yourself as. How could they not be attracted to someone as hateful, smart, out of shape, and (probably) covered with bizarre and grotesque tatoos as yourself? Now you begin to think: if only I was MORE hateful then maybe I could get this nordic paradise going and get 72 nordic virgins for my harem—-but guess what…you’d be wrong.

      InfoNinja Reply:

      F OFF ZIONIST SCUM_ AND THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE. ANYWAY JEWISH IS NOT A RACE YOU LITTLE BITCH. THERE ARE 30 MILLION CHINESE MUSLIMS, DOES THAT MEAN THEY ARE A MUSLIM RACE? FUCKING MORON!

      Dr. Philmore Entry Reply:

      opie, you kiss jew ass like hannity and oreily, that’s why you have money. all it takes is to sell out your country and the rest of the world. and watch torture areas spring up around the world.

      InfoNinja Reply:

      YOU SHOULD LEARN THE HISTORY OF ISRAEL – KILLING MILLIONS TO TAKEOVER THEIR LAND , & THIS HAPPENED IN OUR LIFETIME YOU DUMB SACK OF ZIONIST SHIT. FUUUUUUUCKKKKK YOUUUUUUUUU BITCH & THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE YOU DUMB ZIONIST BITCH

      Sam Reply:

      Shut the hell up racist Jew

      Ironman Reply:

      Your anti-semite. The Arabs are Abraham’s descendants too. Your anti-arabic ramblings make it so. The USA policy war and occupation of Iraq is anti-semiticas well.

      OK, NOW IS THE TIME Reply:

      OK, now is the time. Everyone in D.C. today needs to just turn from the mall and go “INTO” YES”INTO” the Whitehouse and Pentagon and all other Gov buildings and put an end to all the EVIL that continues. AND NO I DID NOT SAY IN VIOLENCE UNLESS VIOLENCE IS BROUGHT TO YOU. “WE” ARE THE POWER!

      the chosen one Reply:

      listen fools israel doesnt need permission from no one to difend itself, we dont need no crazy iranians threatning the middle east with nuclear weapons..in israel we see real terror all the time not false flag terror like what you’ve seen here in the U.S… so stop feeling bad for all these arabs because they hate all americans jews or anyone else who believes in liberty and freedom..this war is ment to be, and it will be . so stop feeling so bad for iran because there just a bunch of sneaky basterds tryen to create a bomb and threaton the whole region.

      Russian Reply:

      Firstly, you arrogant jew, just ask yourself “What is wrong with the jews that so many peoples in so many countries hated them and continue to do so now???

      May be YOU got to CHANGE, first, and STOP “rocking the financial & political boats in the world”??? But you WILL not because you are greedy & angry for NWO…

      remnantofgod.org Reply:

      the chosen one,that was a true cnn comment,you are ………

      Fatma Reply:

      You are so brainwashed and arrogant and violent, and everthing you do, you blame it on others. You think you have free rain without restraint to do what ever it is you want, than rationalize it with lies. I live in Egypt, been around the Middle East and what you are saying is not true, you are spreading hate.

      No NWO! Reply:

      You are murdering Palestinians. Children, babies, women. Blowing up their schools! You are evil people over there. The freaking land isn’t just for “the jews”. You aren’t God like you think and we little “goyims” (that means cattle everyone and they call us that) are sick of your crap.

      If anyone looks up photos and crimes against the Palestinians that the jews are doing, you will see complete sick, evil. They have nothing to defend themselves with. Our gov gives money to israel and they have the best weapons and slaughter innocent people.

      Steven Reply:

      FUCK YOU and all the palestinians. Fuck the arab world, inbred heathens, just like you.
      Long live ISRAEL!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Paradox Reply:

      Steven
      the only inbred is you…hows your momma’s squeaky hole? Fucking ASSCLOWN

      Greg harrison Reply:

      No nwo you stupid fuck you don’t no shit the palastinians and Arabs are fucking poison to this world and need to be removed

      Paradox Reply:

      In Iran..did you know that they have a parliamentarian that is Jewish? Did you know that Iran has Jews in its country that are well respected? I bet you didnt know that because your a fucking Evil Zionist Jew as it is! and No im a Nordic White person you fucking assclown.

      THE AGGRAVATOR Reply:

      You obviously are fixated on male ass, keep your sick homo tendancies to yourself!!!!

      Crosshair25 Reply:

      don’t know why I bother, all my comments are being censored for some reason

      Crosshair25 Reply:

      oh, wait, I work for the NWO, I’m a spy, I’m collecting data, yeah, that must be why

      Crosshair25 Reply:

      lmao, ok, the powers that be will allow these……you go Alex

      Tard Salem Reply:

      Israel sees real terror like Cynthia McKinney bringing books and toys to bombed out Palestinian kids.

      Sheep Snack Reply:

      Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.-John4.21

      you will be called by a New Name-Is62.2,65.15,Rom2.28,Rev3.12

      I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—Rev3.9

      Paradox Reply:

      The Shepardic Jews are the real jews..not the fucked up fake KHAZAR jews that think they are the “choosen ones”..they are the choosen assholes. And believe me if you make a point of that to a jew..they go balistic..they are fake as hell..the real jews are the Shepardic jews..not the fucked up fake Khazar fucks..or inbred heathens if you want to call them that

      Red Dawn 09 Reply:

      Everyone that is of the same mind, that belive that “we the people” are being stepped on and have went out putting up posters and always blog on these type websites, need to make your own website and spread the word about it! I just made one and it was VERY easy. http://www.unansweredquestions.weebly.com so if your going to sit on your butt at least make a freakin change!

      Paradox Reply:

      Alex Jones: A Fraud and a Front Man for ABC and Citadel Media..you all have been duped..big time:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ure=channe

      PrivateSi Reply:

      Broadcasts with a satellite used by MSM too – SO WHAT?! NO CHOICE! Idiot spammer…

      Crosshair25 Reply:

      Paradox….
      I’ve tried to post several times in the last week, rebuting some things that have been posted, and my comment’s went “poof”, go figure, I’m starting to agree with you, this site is slanted.

      Semper Fi

      MAD DOG Reply:

      NOPE DON’T THINK SO, WE’RE TAKING YOUR KEYS TO THE WAR MACHINE AWAY

      YOUR OBLIGATED TO GUARD THE ECONOMY AND BORDERS AND YOUR FAILING TO DO SO.

      WE’RE PUTTING YOU ALL ON PROBATION.

      DO YOUR JOB OR YOUR ALL FIRED.

      UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE, YOUR NOT ALLOWED TO WAGE WAR.

      SIGNED

      WE THE PEOPLE.

      ionza Reply:

      maybe if america wasn’t scum the United Naitons would be trafficing woman and children. don’t belienve me call the UN, they will direct you to where ALL of YOU need to go. fuck you and your third world countries. YOU AMERICA ARE SELLING CHILDREN>

      Greg harrison Reply:

      If the united states would have just invaded them in the first fucking place it would be fine but the American public are idiots and don’t unetstand that

    2. dave Says:

      The military industrial JUNKIE is starting to get the shakes man.

      Just needs a fix man.

      c’mon man. Just a little somethin’ to make the pain go away.

      Eddie Townsend Reply:

      hahaha i needed that laugh.. but i know its deadly serious

      Lance Reply:

      Yep! Good one Dave. The only fix that makes their pain go away is someone else’ pain.

      rexmundi Reply:

      Cost way too much money having to pay for all the Taliban’s weapons out of the Black Budget.
      Need an enemy who is already well armed with weapons we sold them in the past.

      Got to love the war scam.

    3. Sir Baby De Porky Says:

      It’s time to divert the heat and distract the attention…quick !!!

      malestrom Reply:

      because as we discuss this article, israel is in fact invading lebanon with helicopter gunships, and lobbing missiles into lebanon.

      Opie Reply:

      Would those be like the Tens of Thousands of missiles that hizbullah and hamas have been lobbing at Israeli neighborhoods, schools, and hospitals for decades?

      Fatma Reply:

      You big cry baby, your Israel has killed more people in the Middle East than anyone can count, way more children than you can begin to imagine have died at Israels hands. Your a very confused person over who’s dying. Get a life!

      Sir Baby De Porky Reply:

      ” Tens of thousands of missiles “…you’re exagerating and spinnin’ , as usual !!! Their
      ” missiles ” are made with rain gutter material , and it’s a desperation move more than
      anything !!!

      P.S. Get a life !!!

      PrivateSi Reply:

      Israel have JUST RE-INVADED the WEST BANK for the 1000th time. IE. Just given permission for Israeli CONSTRUCTION in Palestine’s west bank. Once again – THE 1st to BREAK THE PEACE TREATY. Double crossing thieves…

      InfoNinja Reply:

      NObody likes Hizbollah or Hamas here, but we hate ISrahell even more

    4. nocheektaturn Says:

      I wish I could kick the snot out of all those war mongers.

      CaptainSeeSharp Reply:

      If you did they would send you to a secret prison for a lifetime of very special “interrogations”.

      Ben Grippin Reply:

      SNOT MONGER!

    5. Keith4130 Says:

      Sanctions usually trickle down and end up hurting the poorest of a nation most, often causing enough hardship to create significant death and disease. Our govt scum know this but of course most Zionist racists care very little about how many “goyim” cattle they kill in their agendas.

    6. Dick Says:

      40,000 people on earth die per day of preventable diseases like malaria, yet Americ’s Jews have nothing better to do than rally against brown people having electricity.

      jackpontiac Reply:

      Dick; you just hit the nail on the head! Your exactly right!

      puzzled patriot Reply:

      i say we wipe em’ out! I am sickened by this ON GOING blatant disregard for human life FOR PROFIT……the U.S. Government jumps right on the MURDER BANDWAGON ??????

      Fatma Reply:

      Very well put!

    7. concerned citizen Says:

      Can ANYBODY answer the question as to why our men and women are fighting the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and soon to be Iran for this country when the people who are in charge (specifically Janet Napolitano) are calling them terrorists? What are they fighting over there for, and why are they fighting over there to give these supposed leaders at home the freedom to promote a police state, gastapo at home? I think they should all come home and let people like Napolitano go over there and fight, because they will be coming home to the very things they are supposedly over there fighting against….ANYBODY?????????

      puzzled patriot Reply:

      RIDICULOUS isn’t it ????? i say THEY COME HOME NOW & fight the good fight RIGHT HERE IN THEIR HOMELAND !

      level6 Reply:

      because they have been brainwashed from birth. they believe they are spreading democracy. many are aware…but no one want to be a “traitor”. the mil-ind complex has made the troops believe they have waived their rights to dissent, and are to follow orders only. most people seem to be willing to do the worst to others if the are “ordered” to do so. especially if there is no consequenses for said action— hell— consequenses?– they are promoted! —- short form— YOU ARE NOW PROPERTY OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.– WELL BULLSHIT!

      Dr. Philmore Entry Reply:

      In a way I am glad so many just follow the marching orders of whatever is on the boob tube. It makes it way easier to walk against the grain when my mind tells me to.

      Fatma Reply:

      That’s so true!

      SKeene1956 Reply:

      its all about the pipeline from the Caspian Sea and securring the oil for us

      Sheepy Snacks Reply:

      while the foolish virgins were off to buy the oil….?

      rexmundi Reply:

      It’s about the dope, oil, and weapons. And that is just the spoils for the greedy minions doing the bidding.
      It’s really all about one thing: A New World Order.

      gonewithewind Reply:

      -1606 a Charter established for the Virginia Company of King James’ Great Britain
      -Great Britain was havig troubles with India, France, Spain..later in China and other places
      -Boston Tea Party also resulted from a tax on tea and British tyranny
      -1781 the Rothschild and the King got a charter to establish their bank based for 20 years in America
      -the charter ws not re-newed by Jackson so the King & Rothschild began another war on America, Revolutionary war of 1812
      - the war put America in severe debt, just as the King & Rothschild had planned
      -later, Abe Lincoln did not want this European/Kingly/Rothschildian bank here in America.
      - another war was launched; the civil war
      - Lincoln needed more money and approached Rothschild. Rothschild responded with ok but yer paying 24 – 36 percent interest and allow us to set up a central bank in US
      -( Rothschild had already been successful in establishing their banks throughout Europe )
      - another bank coming out of Europe was eventually established in America rooted from the Rothschild banking cartel
      - 1876 Otto van Bismark states, ” The division of the U.S. into 2 federations was established long before the civil war by the financial powers of Europe. These bankers were afraid that the U.S. , if they remained in one block and as one nation, would attain economic and financial independence, which would upset their financial domination over the Wolrd.”
      - Binyamin Ze’ev ( aka Theodor Herzl ), 1897 First Zionist Congress operating from Basle, Switzerland. Funded by Rothschild
      - the sons of Rothschild spread to 5 prominent European cities to establish their banks
      - War came to between Germany / United Kingdom & France; banks funding all sides
      - 1917 Bolshevik Revolution in Russia; Zionist power-based, funded by America & European Zionist international bankers.
      - US was brought into WW1 while the First Zionist Congress was demanding the land of Palestine; Balfour Declaration
      - 1913 the federal reserve act was written for the central banks including our federal reserve bank that is historiaclly rooted from the British Empire-Rothschild and Zionists
      - 1913 Rothschild sets up the ADL ( Anti Defamation League )
      - 1919 European ‘jews’ began moving into Palestine ( Versialles Treaty, Balfour Declaration )
      -WW2 came and again the bankers were funding all sides. The Zionist powered Bolsheviks had taken control of Russia. “Judea” declares war on Germany too
      - 1933 FDR publicly announces the bankruptcy of the US, confiscates gold from public. Gives federal reserve enormous powers and begins taxation ( form 1040 payable to the British Crown )
      - By this time the zionist banks from Europe have firmly invaded the Far East, Africa ( particularly South Africa), India, Vietnam, parts of the Mid East and the Americas
      - Zionist Rothschild fund & found the bank of International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland; the same city where the First Zionist Congress was established
      - the zionist / rothschilds get their centarl bank in the US and begin putting U.S. federaLreserve notes into circulation and eventually around the globe
      -etc, etc, etc

      These same bankers engineered 9/11 and the so-called world financial crisis so as to use trade/economics/finances & currencies as a way to control. They will leave us peons & peasants to fight over things such as skin color, religions, social status and borders..as they simply use us.

      gonewithewind Reply:

      Now that Afghanistan & Iraq have their post-invasion Rothschild central banks, there are 5 more countries left. They are Iran, North Korea, Sudan, Cuba & Libya.

      And those persons in countries around the World that dont have to pay taxes…they soon will. The global carbon tax is gonna be a net cast on everybody and all that tax-money will be funneled to where ?

      Dont Euthanize Me Bro Reply:

      The sad part is that is exactly what we will do. Its what we have been doing all along. Think about people in prison. They are all in the same situation, have a common enemy(the warden and guards) and yet they STILL divide themselves up amongst racial lines and fight one another.

      Big Daddy D Reply:

      Here.here. Just imagine if America had spent all those billions of dollars on building schools, hospitals,water plants, power stations, etc. instead of murdering and terrorizing over half of the damn world. Bet there would be allot less people hating the USA corporation.

    8. WTF Says:

      The hypocrisy here kills me. Israel/USA has a large cache of Nukes and Iran wants to generate their own electricity. Money talks and bull shit walks in this world and it’s getting worse everyday.

      malestrom Reply:

      By not moving to reduce its nuclear stockpile, US is in fact in violation of the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty which it had solemnly obliged itself to undertake. Iran is not violating the NNP by pursuing nuclear power. The US is trying to argue to the UN that Iran is in violation of the NPP to which it is party. Why does the hypocracy stick? Because the UN is a fake world governance body controlled by the 5 openly nuclear powers, US, France, UK, China and Russia. The UN is a military alliance that began in WWII as the Allies plus China, Nicaragua etc. In 1945 the victors held a conference in San Francisco and made the military alliance into a governance body, the UN.

      CaptainSeeSharp Reply:

      Iran wants to bomb us or make trades with proxies.

      Sam Reply:

      There is a reason behind that

    9. gonewithewind Says:

      Zionists have a well documented history of offering up “jews”. Zionists have done it in Europe and the Middle East. The Zionist run Israeli administration and the Zionist Congress, ( founded & funded by Rothschild of the United KINGDOM), have used the death of “jews” to try to gain World sympathy.

      With these so-called “settlers” moving in, it would not surprise me the least if the Zionists once again kill ‘jews’ and blame it on others, in order to start a war. These “jews” moving into Palestinian properties better wisen up. They can be shelled by the Zionists, but their greed & hatred for Arabs have blinded them.

      ecuasionz Reply:

      You are spot on. The holocaust was Europeans killing OTHER Europeans for the soul purpose of sympathy and a Established Zionist state and Agenda. Nothing more and nothing less. Rothschild Is Satan himself and neither does him or the Jew-ISH believe in the Bible, but only world supremacy through banking and WAR.

      Married to 1/3 Native American Reply:

      Before you blame a Zionist, just maybe you should be looking into the methods of the United Nations and the New Age Movement! A lot of conspiracy with those people!

      gonewithewind Reply:

      http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org.....idden-hand

      malestrom Reply:

      um well who killed Yitzhak Shamir, and what in the hell happened to Sharon, and who took power in Israel after each of these men were removed?

    10. Pete Says:

      http://www.youtube.com/user/eyesonly2019

    11. секс по телефону Says:

      все хорошо, вот только название сайта никак не запомнить =(

    12. Highlanderess Says:

      Suppose they gave a war and no one came?

      NorthernTouch Reply:

      lol

      malestrom Reply:

      lol suppose they gave a vaccine and no one came?

    13. TS Gordon Says:

      We are right back to where we were before they attacked Iraq: “Look at this photo of Sadam’s secret chemical stockpiles, -just look at all these [RED CIRCLES] mobile weapons labs!” Says Gordon Brown, [chosen future 'Czar' of the EU,] to Downing Street Staff: “We will have to cook the intelligence and confirm whatever the USA declares to be true!”

      Can you say, “A New Pearl Harbor!”

      Webster Tarpley was obviously right: “September 11th is still their archilles heel.”

      So, no matter how boring, no matter where we are in the ‘911 school year,’ it’s time these major media outlets learned a lesson, [via Max Keiser] called “Boycott Lying Media.” If your company advertises with them, submit the copy a day late…

      malestrom Reply:

      or Bibi Benjamin Netanyahu commenting on 9/11 the day after: “America’s new Pearl Harbor…”

      Bibi the neocon with the American passport.

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    15. Lance Says:

      Message to Iran: respond nicely to our diplomacy, or we’ll bomb the crap out of you!

      malestrom Reply:

      diplomacy? what diplomacy? we dont need no steenking diplomacy meester!

      bullsh!t Reply:

      lance,

      you are a brain washed tool, go back to isra-hell were you belong!! you evil motherfucker

      Lance Reply:

      Hey bullshit, you wouldn’t know sarcasm if you fell over it. Go and drink some fluoride, mush for brains.

      sarcasm Reply:

      i knew u were bsing lance armstrong…mahmoud is hilarious

      Lance Reply:

      All US “diplomacy” these days is (rarely disguised) gunboat diplomacy. When I took this article and boiled it down to its essence, the above of the above is what i walked away with, Now, maybe i missed something, but let’s be honest, when it’s as big as a barn door and right in one’s face, it’s hard to miss. Even for someone as occasionally myopic as myself. Lance Armstrong, Tour de France champion? I could only wish. Yeah, Amedinejad is Hilarious? Not.

    16. malestrom Says:

      “As nuclear negotiations between Iran and the West continue to move slowly, U.S. President Barack Obama is coming under growing pressure from what appears to be a concerted lobbying and media campaign urging him to act more aggressively to stop Iran’s nuclear programme.”

      ^^^FALSE^^^^

      Iran told Obama to go away, it wasn’t interested in negotiating on Iran’s right to pursue civilian nuclear power.

    17. Solomon Swift Says:

      Russia will retaliate, won’t they? This really is insane. If this was for real the US would simply “sell” nuclear power stations in exchange for Iranian oil rights. Let the Russians, Chinese and whoever else provide stations also on the same terms and no-one is going to start a war in the Middle East when everyone has a share in its future.

      Blinkin’ politicians!

      PrivateSi Reply:

      Russia has been helping Iran with it’s civilian nuclear power program, China also to a lesser extent. Would be good if Western countries could also build a reactor or 2. I doubt Iran would go for US support somehow but you never know.

    18. Yae Says:

      The death count of our American men & women is going to go higher.

      Israel is conquering the middle east using bodies/lives of good American soldiers. If Israel wants the middle east under their control LET THEM DO IT BY THEMSELVES!! Holding our military hostage using the jewish lobby bullies is just grotesque.

      This saddens me profoundly.

    19. bob Says:

      Israel is run by the elite.

    20. Alex Says:

      I read the entire article and oh my god….

    21. TS Gordon Says:

      ‘Resolution’ is where it’s at. And regardless of your leanings, (or who’s knife is pointed at your back,) the easiest way to prevent guture WAR is to put those who would start one ‘legally bound to serve their National duty at the front lines.”

      Regardless of ‘age,’ if Hillary and this Net-en-yahoo character were given a rifle and told to dig a trench, or die, I really doubt this sabre-rattling would continue!

      Again, if they claim to be in politics to “serve their country,” then let them all ’serve’ proudly in War!

    22. Jim Says:

      Militarists and Jewish bankers work together in pursuit of war profits and global hegemony. In Obama’s administration, the tie between US Militarism & Zionist Jews is evidenced first by the military appointments of: Robert Gates at Defense, (Bush’s warlord), General James Jones at National Security, and Admiral Dennis Blair at National Intelligence.

      more.. http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=439

    23. European Says:

      I just want to adress to my jewish friends.

      PLEASE do NOT attack Iran!

      Iran/Persia is a holy land.

      Iran is home to one of the world’s oldest continuous major civilizations, with historical and urban settlements dating back to 7000 BC. The first Iranian dynasty formed during the Elamite kingdom in 2800 BC.

      Cyrus King of the Kings, King of the globe, great king, mighty king, King of Babylon, king of the land of Sumer and Akad, King of ……, king of the four quarters of Earth, son of Cambysis (Kambujiye), great king, king of Anshan, grandson of Cyrus (Kurosh), great king, king of Anshan, descendant of Teispes (Chaish Pish), great king, king of Anshan, progeny of an unending royal line, whose rule, The Gods, Bel and Nabu cherish, whose kingship they desire for their hearts’ and pleasures.

      The persian culture and the persian civilization is much older than the arse-licker greeks!

      Persia is the motherland of the Aryan race!

      Ever heard of the Cyrus Cylinder!?

      Not!?

      The Cyrus Cylinder, discovered in 1879 and now in the British Museum, is one of the most famous cuneiform texts, because it was once believed that it confirmed what the Bible says (Isaiah 44.23-45.8; Ezra 1.1-6, 6.1-5; 2 Chronicles 36.22-23): that in 539 BCE, the Persian conqueror Cyrus the Great had allowed the Jews to return from their Babylonian Exile.

      In 1971, the Cyrus Cylinder was described as the world’s first charter of human rights,and it was translated into all six official U.N. languages. A replica of the cylinder is kept at the United Nations Headquarters in New York City in the second floor hallway, between the Security Council and the Economic and Social Council chambers.

      Not everyone know THIS!

      The Mullahs do not represent Iran. This shitskin arabs have occupied Iran for over 30 years!
      PLEASE do not attack Iran!

      The Mullahregime have nothing! In fact they have a weak army. All they do is just bluffing!

    24. European Says:

      I just want to adress to my jewish friends.

      PLEASE do NOT attack Iran!

      Iran/Persia is a holy land.

      Iran is home to one of the world’s oldest continuous major civilizations, with historical and urban settlements dating back to 7000 BC. The first Iranian dynasty formed during the Elamite kingdom in 2800 BC.

      Cyrs, King of the Kings, King of the globe, great king, mighty king, King of Babylon, king of the land of Sumer and Akad, King of ……, king of the four quarters of Earth, son of Cambysis (Kambujiye), great king, king of Anshan, grandson of Cyrus (Kurosh), great king, king of Anshan, descendant of Teispes (Chaish Pish), great king, king of Anshan, progeny of an unending royal line, whose rule, The Gods, Bel and Nabu cherish, whose kingship they desire for their hearts’ and pleasures.

      The persian culture and the persian civilization is much older than the arse-licker greeks!

      Persia is the motherland of the Aryan race!

      Ever heard of the Cyrus Cylinder!?

      Not!?

      The Cyrus Cylinder, discovered in 1879 and now in the British Museum, is one of the most famous cuneiform texts, because it was once believed that it confirmed what the Bible says (Isaiah 44.23-45.8; Ezra 1.1-6, 6.1-5; 2 Chronicles 36.22-23): that in 539 BCE, the Persian conqueror Cyrus the Great had allowed the Jews to return from their Babylonian Exile.

      In 1971, the Cyrus Cylinder was described as the world’s first charter of human rights,and it was translated into all six official U.N. languages. A replica of the cylinder is kept at the United Nations Headquarters in New York City in the second floor hallway, between the Security Council and the Economic and Social Council chambers.

      Not everyone knows THIS!

      The Mullahs do not represent Iran. This shitskin arabs have occupied Iran for over 30 years!
      PLEASE do not attack Iran!

      The Mullahregime have nothing! In fact they have a weak army. All they do is just bluffing!

      Sir Baby De Porky Reply:

      India is the Motherland of all races , especially the Aryan one !!!

    25. uyti Says:

      Fascinating. I think Neanderthals still exist. When I was in southern France, there were a lot of men with really jutting foreheads and deep deep set eyes with jutting super square jaws. I had never seen people like that. I don’t think I’m related to them. But yes, Iran and India is where modern white people are from. We can even trace our language to villages in India 150,000 years ago. I believe it is San script? One of the first or maybe the first written languages.

      Sir Baby De Porky Reply:

      All races originate from India !!! Sanskrit is indeed the original langage of the universe ( it’s
      also , coincidentally , the langage of choice for computers !!! )

      space alien Reply:

      ya thats were we engineered the first humanoids at in india .

      John Reply:

      Sanskrit and computers..

      Please tell me more if you would.

      John

      Sir Baby De Porky Reply:

      Sanskrit is the original langage of the universe , of God , demigods and aryans , it has
      a direct connection to the object described , like when you say ” Chandra ” or ” Soma ” ,
      that is not different from the Moon itself ( they are two names for the Moon ) or when you
      say ” Naga ” ( serpent ) , the vibration of the name is intimately connected to the object ,
      which is not the case when you use another langage !!!

      Sanskrit words have often different meanings , and are interchangeable . It’s a highly
      scientific way of communicating on a spiritual level ( which is a bit contradictory !!! )

      I heard that it’s the best langage for computer usage , and that Nasa has messages in
      Sanskrit in case they meet extra-terrestrials !!!

      P.S. Check out ” Deva-Nagari “

    26. uttoh Says:

      who were these jews that were demonstrating? were they real jews or zionist? google jews against zionism and see what real jews think.

    27. Giggles Says:

      Israel is not scum. The Jewish people are God’s chosen people. God will defend His people. All the world will one day now that He is God. Jesus Christ is God. You can’t call God allah or whatever name you want to. It is Jesus Christ and He will protect the Jewish people.

      gonewithewind Reply:

      Wow, thats quite a twist. Jews dont believe he was resurrected after his death do they ?

      I thought it was christians that turned him into a man-god and Rome captalized on that belief, no?

    28. ug Says:

      Seriously dude. Go die.

      roaddog6 Reply:

      no shit.

    29. the chosen one Says:

      to all you arab loving fools , you will just never learn ..all arabs are trained from birth o hte jews and america or anyone one affiliated with the usa …so stop feeling bad for iran //\\ there just as corrupt as any dictatorship. they kill there own people and dont give a rats ass about there citizens so i hope we bomb the shit out of them ..and ps i dont give a fuck about cnn or fox news or any mainstream media ..only alex jones but even he seems to love them iranians for some reason .i dont know why.i guess he will only wake up when the start blowing up buses and cafes and clubs in his town then he’el no what garbage of cowards these muslims really are.they dont have balls to fight like men.so why should we feel sorry for these pussys …war sux but it must come and when they feel the hammer they will stand down and then they will know who the god of israel is and praise him as the one and only creator not some dude named ala akbar who i keep hearing all the time.

      gonewithewind Reply:

      Persian genetics diifer from Arabic genetics. Persians are white folk.

    30. oj Says:

      Why don’t you pussy jews go fight them then. Fuck off tick turd.

    31. Caelum non animum mutant Says:

      Is alex jones a shill for the jesuits?

      yellowhak1 Reply:

      oh god! heard that one a million times over. moving on.

    32. Caelum non animum mutant Says:

      arrivederci

    33. Big Yan K Coots 4U Says:

      To all you Yank Kee inbreds out there….. its funny how you’re country’s entire foreign policy is dictated by U.S Jews…… yet when i comes to do the fighting, the Jews are nowhere to be seen.

    34. InfoNinja Says:

      Arabs don’t hate jews, Arabs hate having their land stolen

      InfoNinja Reply:

      Ohhh and they hate being the victims of a holocaust commited on them by Zionists

    35. European Says:

      @Sir Baby De Porky

      Uneducated ignorant IDIOT!

      Sorry for you..:-)
      Dumb Idiots like yourself even don’t know the fact that Iran is NOT an Arab state!

      Go to a library and educate yourself. Just check out an encyclopedia and look for the name “Iran” for what it stands for!

      Iran/Persia is the motherland of the ARYAN RACE you Dumbass!

      Do you know what the wor IRAN means:

      About 7000 Years ago, successive waves of people were migrating into a land which is now called Iran and northern Iraq. They called themselves the black-headed (dark- haired) people. We know them as the Aryan/Sumerian, ancestors of Iranians and the land in which they settled as the land of Sumer (Iran Plateau)
      The Aryans/Sumerians established the first recognizable civilization with a workable system of government. Their other achievements include the invention of WHEELED VEHICLES and the use of written language. The ancient Iranians developed the scientific practice of agriculture; on the arts side, a distinctive style of architecture and a complex religion which is reflected in their literature.
      Summer lasted well over 1,000 years before it fell to Semite warrior people from the north, the AKKADIANS, and even then Sumerian culture continued to dominate the new empire. Many legends surround the person of the Akkadian leader, Sargon I (2637-2582 BC.). He was once cup-bearer to the king of Kish. The legend goes that he was found as a baby floating on the river in a basket made of reeds.

      Ignorant Idiots like yourself never heard about the “Cyrus Cylinder”.
      He was the funder of the human rights!

      All you see is the mass media Propaganda about Ahmadinejad und Mullahs who have occupied
      for over 30 years!
      Your education is Hollywood through propaganda comic movies like “300″ made by dumb zionists to push on the distortion of history!

      How poor!

      gonewithewind Reply:

      You’re exactly correct and Abram came from Sumer before he began to wander. He was a very very wealthy man. The creation story comes directly from Sumer and is much more detailed than in the religious books of today.

    36. European Says:

      @Sir Baby De Porky

      Uneducated ignorant IDIOT!

      Sorry for you..:-)
      Dumb Idiots like yourself even don’t know the fact that Iran is NOT an Arab state!

      Go to a library and educate yourself. Just check out an encyclopedia and look for the name “Iran” for what it stands for!

      Iran/Persia is the motherland of the ARYAN RACE you Dumbass!

      Do you know what the wor IRAN means:

      About 7000 Years ago, successive waves of people were migrating into a land which is now called Iran and northern Iraq. They called themselves the black-headed (dark- haired) people. We know them as the Aryan/Sumerian, ancestors of Iranians and the land in which they settled as the land of Sumer (Iran Plateau)
      The Aryans/Sumerians established the first recognizable civilization with a workable system of government. Their other achievements include the invention of WHEELED VEHICLES and the use of written language. The ancient Iranians developed the scientific practice of agriculture; on the arts side, a distinctive style of architecture and a complex religion which is reflected in their literature.
      Summer lasted well over 1,000 years before it fell to Semite warrior people from the north, the AKKADIANS, and even then Sumerian culture continued to dominate the new empire. Many legends surround the person of the Akkadian leader, Sargon I (2637-2582 BC.). He was once cup-bearer to the king of Kish. The legend goes that he was found as a baby floating on the river in a basket made of reeds.

      Ignorant Idiots like yourself never heard about the “Cyrus Cylinder”.
      He was the founder of the human rights!

      All you see is the mass media Propaganda about Ahmadinejad und Mullahs who have occupied
      for over 30 years!
      Your education is Hollywood through propaganda comic movies like “300″ made by dumb zionists to push on the distortion of history!

      WHY ARE YOU CENSORING MY COMMENTS!

    37. European Says:

      @InfoNinja

      IRAN is NOT an ARAB STATE!

      Uneducated IDIOTS!
      Unbelievable…How poor is the US-education system….That’s terrifying!!!!!

      Do you know who to find IRAN on the world map…. I don’t think so…. :D

      YOU DUMBASS!

      In by the way…Ever heard of Ahmadinejads jewish ancestors…NOT!
      So check THIS out: http://www.theaustralian.news......84,00.html

      John Reply:

      Actually it used to be called Persia.

      Internecine tribal and religious ‘Hatfield and McCoys’ action

      is an old problem in those parts (mid east and africa,

      Great for that Divide and Rule stuff, yes?

      John

      David - New Zealand Reply:

      … I met a few Iranians recently and they pointed out to me, that they were not Arabs but Persians… interesting , you learn something new every day!

    38. European Says:

      @InfoNinja

      IRAN is NOT an ARAB STATE!

      Uneducated IDIOTS!
      Unbelievable…How poor is the US-education system!?…That’s terrifying!!!!!

      Do you know who to find IRAN on the world map…. I don’t think so… :D

      YOU DUMBASS!

      In by the way…Ever heard of Ahmadinejads jewish ancestors…NOT!
      So check THIS out: http://www.theaustralian.news&.....84,00.html

    39. European Says:

      Once again the weblink mentioned in my previous comment:
      http://www.theaustralian.news......84,00.html

      Also check for this criminal racist character >>> Helena Blavatsky <<< who tries to corrupt historical facts concerning the origin and the roots of the Aryan race.

    40. u r a clown Says:

      wut a suprise a whole bunch of war lovin jew haters thats awesome the only way america makes money is thru weapons of course war with iran is coming its been coming for 20 yrs

    41. Lost Patriot Says:

      Why don’t the Israelis fight their own holy wars. Who gives a shit if Iran ever has a nuke??? Hopefull Iran will get a nuke and blow Israel off the map!!!! That will solve the problem!!!

      THE AGGRAVATOR Reply:

      Never happen, ASS FACE!

      David - New Zealand Reply:

      …don’t nuke, just kick them outa’ the ol’ U.S. of A…..problems solved!

    42. goodseed Says:

      Do you have friends and family who just don’t get it about 911? Do you want to throw cold water in their face or just slap them and say “HEYWAKEUP!” Try this instead. Print one of these and calmly ask them to read it. You’ll be glad you did.

      http://www.thegoodseed.com/Wha.....On%209.pdf

    43. Neptune Says:

      Everyone is entitled to their opinion for sure. Why is there all the racist comments and swearing in above postings? As someone stated we will be having a lot of first time visitors to this site. I for one want them to investigate and see the truth, to join us in our quest. By the above will that happen? For the most part I believe we are people who care about our country, our Constitution and our freedoms. More importantly, showing hatred for our fellow man by our words will not serve our purpose of standing united to further our fight to save this country of ours.

    44. Evolution Revolution Says:

      If the federal gov or the military structure attacks Iran with or without Israel israel will suffer The Grave one large grave the wars can no longer continue It will come to an end American soldiers now realize whats going on and will begin to frag the commanding officers.

    45. BobLeeSwagger Says:

      Boy these dumbasses are just looking for a big hornets nest to kick over ain’t they? Don’t be suprised when you get stung real bad for it to dumbasses.

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    46. BB Says:

      Won’t happen, they can’t afford it lol. Not only that where are they going to get the troops from they are short handed right now lol. Unless they re instate the draft. And Israel won’t do anything, they are waiting for the sanctions to kick in. If Israel did any thing right now it wouldn’t be pretty, “that is for sure”. But i have a idea that will resolve all these issue’s. “Hey Israel get rid of your nukes and maybe you won’t have to worry about other people getting them because you have them”. Just a little bit of common sense.

    47. Thomas Says:

      There is no evidence that Iran is engaged in anything but LEGAL enrichment as allowed under NPT. But the constant barrage of threats of military and economic force from Israel, Bush/Cheney régime and now Obama suggests that they are fools not to build a bomb.

      THE AGGRAVATOR Reply:

      Are you retarded? Is that your problem? Fuck all you muslim loving FUCKHEADS!!!!!

      BB Reply:

      Muslim, jews etc etc. I don’t judge people on their race. I judge them by there character bro. I like jewish people and muslim. You my friend have a problem not me. I suggest you take what ever it is out of your ass and look at life itself, and not live they way certain people tell you to live. Sad world when you look at peoples skin color and not judge them on who they are a person. F’in sad.

      BB Reply:

      It’s a matter of wrong and right, truth and lie’s. That is what i judge people on. Time to grow up people and treat people the way you want to be treated. Again common sense.

    48. maelstrom Says:

      war drums in washington? obama can play the konga drums? that’s pretty cool.

    49. 6205 Says:

      It’s only a matter of time, when will your nazi goverment start a new war, this time in Iran, to start-up your bancrupted economy. Hopefully this time they(Iran) will actually have and use weapons of mass destruction(not like those faked ones in Iraq) to give you a fucking lesson. Only then will you finally understand that you’re not world police and cannot do what you want.. Good Luck.

    50. willy fister Says:

      Glenn Beck is there to steer you the wrong way. IT IS NOT TO LATE! We need to wake up the leaders who still believe in this country and start the revolution. EVEN if we need to start our own global one world REVOLUTION and get all the people around the world to put out the fire that the UN has started. After all they have been calling the shots for many years now. Start the manifest and wake up the GLOBAL REVOLUTION and put these JOKERS back in the box,,,,AND NEVER!!! NEVER wind the TOY CRANK AGAIN!!!!!

    51. goodseed Says:

      http://www.thegoodseed.com/Wha.....On%209.pdf

      Do you have friends and family who just don’t get it about 911? Do you want to throw cold water in their face or just slap them and say “HEYWAKEUP!” Try this instead. Print one of these and calmly ask them to read it. You’ll be glad you did.

    52. David - New Zealand Says:

      … he certainly is persistant…Oh, well, one more time!

      Romans 1:22 – “For professing themselves to be wise, they became fools!”…

    53. Matt Says:

      O my Gods ! When will the USA stop being so fucking racist towards countries they can’t be bothered to learn about. Me personally i think christianity , Islam and judaism are all equally moronic but i don’t judge people soley on want they worship. I look at where they come from and what they must of experienced growing up. I have some Iranian friends who live in the UK, they hate the regime in power but strongley believe if anyone is going to change their country it will be them and them alone. 3/4 of the population are under 30 and are the most politically active in the world (85% vote). They also have every right in the world to have nuclear power , even if the get a bomb , do you think they are so stupid that they don’t realise Israel would wipe them off the map. For fucks sake they have more nukes than the UK.
      Stop listerning to the fear mongers in your country, who keep createing boogyman after boogyman to keep u all in line. The young people in Iran don’t hate u personally they actually like your way of life, they hate you bombing the shit out of anyone u like. And for overthrowing their democratically elected government to put the Shar in.

      P.S stop being Israels bitch it should be the other way around !

      pps Alex Jones gives Europe hope that not all Americans are blind ,deaf retards .

      p.s Alex Jones

    54. Abaddon Says:

      You can put your money on a military strike on Iran in the very near future, and why? Obama has just promised the Soviet Union that America will not put a star wars shield in Poland, nobody does nothing for nothing, especially politicians. The Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, has just returned from Russia, setting the scene for Obama to follow up with the promise of a no star wars shield in Poland, as Obama is a puppet of the powerful Jewish elite in Washington. This is now a green light for Israel to strike at Iran’s nuclear facilities, with token resistance for public consumption only, from Russia. The Russian bogey bear has already been well fed with Poland. Watch for the response from Iran, now it knows it is open season on its territory.

    55. nano Says:

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      http://www.di.fm/mp3/psychill.pls

      there is no hate speech .. no violence .. no aggressions .. no screaming in it …

      believe it or not : it is more wise to listen to chillout music than to join a militia group and listening to some of their “leaders” and follow their “orders” …

      Peace.

    56. goodseed Says:

      I wrote this 911 article for people who haven’t been exposed to 911 truth and who aren’t likely to take the innitiative to research it themselves. I believe we can still reach those people. They are not going to go digging into 911 at this late date, but if they take fifteen minutes to read the article it will leave nagging questions in their mind that will not be easily dismissed. People who are now on the sidelines can still be brought into the game. They may never be first string but they could at least become supporters. More than anything, people just need a little help to wake up from their propaganda enduced stupor.

      I would like to see people all over the world use it as a tool, as a handout, to put on windshields etc. I have given them to friends and family, firefighters, and police. I have handed them out outside the Clinton presidential library and on the streets in Little Rock. I have left them on windshields outside of VFW’s and American Legions’s. It has been very effective. Here is the pdf. Print some. I hope you will make good use of it.

      http://www.thegoodseed.com/Wha.....On%209.pdf