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Iran’s Election and US – Iranian Relations
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In the run-up to Iran’s June 12 presidential election, early indications suggested the media’s reaction if the wrong candidate won. On June 7, New York Times writer Robert Worth reported “a surge of energy (for) Mir Hussein Mousavi, a reformist who is the leading contender to defeat Mr. Ahmadinejad (and) a new unofficial poll (has him well ahead) with 54 percent of respondents saying they would vote for him compared with 39 percent for Mr. Ahmadinejad.” No mention of who conducted the poll, how it was done, what interests they represented, or if Mousavi winning might be the wrong result. More on that below.
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| Although Iran is a theocracy with standards leaving a lot to be desired, it’s one of the few Middle East countries holding real elections, unlike regional monarchies or dictatorial states like Egypt where Hosni Mubarak has ruled for nearly 30 years and wins easily with well over 90% of the “vote” in little more than a sham process. | |
Writing for the influential far right Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), Fariborz Ghadar described the contest as “pit(ting) the hard-line Mahmoud Ahmadinejad against two relatively moderate and one conservative challenger.” In spite of one or more independent polls showing Ahmadinejad way ahead, he suggested that “the outcome (isn’t) all that clear.” More on the poll results below.
The Wall Street Journal sounded a similar tone in calling Ahmadinejad’s opponents “two reformists and one conservative (who) criticized his government for its lack of tolerance. Each has promised more personal and social freedom if elected.”
Newsweek quoted Iranian historian Mohammed Javad Mozafar saying:
“The choice is….between democracy and an authoritarian government. If Ahmadinejad wins, that means the end of this reformist dream for a while. Many of these young people will be depressed and even leave the country. But if Mousavi wins, that means the citizens have won despite Ahmadinejad’s deceitful policies and the support he receives from above (meaning Iran’s Guardian Council and Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei).”
The dominant US media repeated similar comments to the above ones, so their post-June 12 response was no surprise.
On June 13, Robert Worth and Nazila Fathi in The New York Times headlined: “Protests Flare in Tehran as Opposition Disputes Vote,” then described “the most intense protests in a decade….with riot police officers using batons and tear gas against opposition demonstrators who claimed President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had stolen the presidential election.”
The Wall Street Journal called the election “a sham” and cited the AP reporting that “election authorities were miraculously able to count millions of paper ballots (in just hours) after the polls closed to hand Mr. Ahmadinejad his supposed victory.” It quoted writer Laura Secor in the New Yorker saying: “What is most shocking is not the fraud itself, but that it was brazen and entirely without pretext.”
Perhaps she meant “precedent,” but either way she ignored two stolen US elections for George Bush and the shameful media response to them.
Also disturbing are more moderate, supposedly even-handed, and progressive US voices. On June 13, Stephen Zunes asked “Has the Election Been Stolen in Iran?” Again with no evidence he wrote:
“….predictions of knowledgeable Iranian observers from various countries and from across the political spectrum were nearly unanimous in the belief that the leading challenger Mir Hossein Mousavi would (win) decisively..” Given the results, “the only reasonable assumption was that there has been fraud on a massive scale.”
Juan Cole admitted “difficulties of catching history on the run (and said evidence) may emerge for Ahmadinejad’s upset that does not involve fraud,” yet he concluded on first reaction that “this post-election situation looks to me like a crime scene.”
The Nation magazine has had a shameful record since inception. In more recent years, it called the US-led NATO Serbia-Kosovo aggression “humanitarian intervention.” Initially it supported the Afghanistan war and the Iraq war in its run-up and early months. In 2000 and 2004, it ignored blatant electoral fraud for George Bush. It attacks Hugo Chavez, and was hostile to Jean-Bertrand Aristide during his years as Haiti’s President. It called the 2008 US presidential campaign the “Obama Moment” for his “historic candidacy” and keeps supporting him despite his brazen betrayal of voters who elected him.
Now it’s at it again in a June 13 Robert Dreyfuss article headlined, “Iran’s Ex-Foreign Minister Yazdi: It’s a Coup” in which (without no substantiating evidence) he called the election “rigged,” referred to Ahmadinejad as “radical-right,” and said “his paramilitary backers were kept in office.” Now “Iran’s capital (is) steeped in anger, despair, and bitterness” as he almost cheerled for a “color revolution” with comments like:
“For years, the hardline clergy and their allies, including Ahmadinejad, have feared nothing more than an Iranian-style ‘color revolution.’ Now, Mousavi – with solid establishment credentials, an Islamic revolutionary pedigree second to none, and an outspoken pro-reform message – finds himself at the head of a green parade” in contrast to “Ahmadinejad’s Red Tide,” a reference to “the red-armband-wearing, virtual fascist movement in support of reelecting” him.
A lack of journalistic and analytical integrity on the left and right continues to hype fraud without a shred of supportive evidence, so something sinister may be visible on Iranian streets. If true, the Obama administration likely is behind it or at least in support, so Iranians need remember their history.
More on that below, but first some background. Four candidates participated, each of whom was vetted and approved by Iran’s Guardian Council and most importantly Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei – a system similar to America where democracy is illusory because party bosses choose candidates, big money controls them, key outcomes are predetermined, horse race journalism and media hype substitute for honest coverage, independent voices are suppressed, vital issues go unaddressed, voter disenfranchisement is rife, and corporate-run electronic voting machines decide winners, not the electorate.
In Iran, the Guardian Counsel’s approved candidates seek closer relations with America and less confrontation. In deference to Iran’s business and elitist interests, they favor austerity measures against Iranian workers. In March, Ahmadinejad’s budget called for reduced spending by eliminating subsidies on water, fuel and electricity but kept “targeted” ones in place for the nation’s poor.
On November 6, Ahmadinejad congratulated Obama on his election and wrote: “The great civilization-building and justice-seeking nation of Iran would welcome major, fair and real changes, in policies and actions, especially in this region.” On February 10, he said he was willing to negotiate “in a fair atmosphere with mutual respect,” short of surrendering Iranian sovereignty. Given 30 years of confrontation since 1979, it’s doubtful that’s enough, despite recent hints of rapprochement from Washington.
The four candidates included:
– current President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad; in 2005, he scored a decisive second round victory over former President Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani (61.69% – 35.93%), one of Iran’s wealthiest men, notoriously corrupt, and despised by Iranian workers and the poor; since elected, Ahmadinejad has been mischaracterized, misquoted, and vilified in Washington, Tel Aviv, and the West for supporting Palestine’s legitimate Hamas government, Hezbollah in Lebanon, and Iran’s right to peaceful commercial nuclear power development; he’s supported by Iran’s military, conservative elements, Iranian workers, and the nation’s urban and rural poor;
– Mir Hossein Mousavi served earlier (from 1981 – 1989) as Iran’s Prime Minister (before constitutional changes ended the position) and is currently president of the Iranian Academy of Arts and a member of the Expediency Discernment Council and High Council of Cultural Revolution; earlier he served as Foreign Minister; as Prime Minister, he was hardline and anti-Western during the Iran – Iraq war when he imposed austerity measures to finance it; today, he draws support from portions of Iran’s ruling elite and urban middle class, especially students and youths who favor better relations with America;
– Mohsen Rezaei is a politician, economist, and former Revolutionary Guard Corp (IRGC) commander; he’s currently Secretary of the Expediency Discernment Council and drew sparse support in the June 12 election; and
– Mehdi Karroubi is a cleric and former parliamentary speaker; he’s currently chairman of the National Trust party and founding member and former chairman of the Association of Combatant Clerics party; he also scored poorly in election results that came down to a contest between the two leading candidates.
On June 13, Iran’s Interior Minister, Sadeq Mahsouli, announced the following results after which street protests erupted:
– turnout was 85% of eligible voters
– Ahmadinejad won with 62.63%
– Mousavi was second with 33.75%
– Rezaei got 1.73%
– Karroubi had 0.85%, and
– 1.04% of ballots were voided.
Pre-election polls suggest that Ahmadinejad Really Won
One or more independent pre-election polls conducted several weeks before June 12 provide evidence of Ahmadinejad’s strong victory, and it shouldn’t surprise. It was comparable to his sweeping 2005 runoff win in which he trounced former President Rafsanjani as explained above. This time, no second round was needed because only two dominant candidates contested. The others needn’t have bothered as final results showed.
Although Iran is a theocracy with standards leaving a lot to be desired, it’s one of the few Middle East countries holding real elections, unlike regional monarchies or dictatorial states like Egypt where Hosni Mubarak has ruled for nearly 30 years and wins easily with well over 90% of the “vote” in little more than a sham process.
Pre-Election Independent Poll Results
Ken Ballen is president of Terror Free Tomorrow: the Center for Public Opinion, a nonprofit institute that researches attitudes toward extremism. Patrick Doherty is deputy director of the American Strategy Program at the New America Foundation Washington-based think tank chaired by Google CEO Eric Schmidt.
On June 15 in the Washington Post, they reported the results of their May 11 – 20 poll based on 1001 nationwide Iranian voter interviews (in all 30 provinces) with a 3.1% margin of error.
While Western media reported a surge for Mousavi, the results showed Ahmadinejad way ahead. “The breadth of Ahmadinejad’s support was apparent in our preelection survey. During the campaign, for instance, Mousavi emphasized his identity as an Azeri, (Iran’s second largest ethnic group after Persians), to woo Azeri voters.” Yet poll results showed they favored Ahmadinejad 2 – 1.
Also, 18 – 24 year-olds strongly supported Ahmadinejad while Mousavi scored well only among university students and graduates and Iran’s “highest-income” earners. The writers concluded “the possibility that the vote (was) not the product of widespread fraud” but reflected the electorate’s true choice. They also said:
“Before other countries, including the United States, jump to the conclusion that the Iranian presidential elections were fraudulent, with the grave consequences such charges could bring, they should consider all independent information. The fact may simply be that the reelection of President Ahmadinejad is what the Iranian people wanted.”
Perhaps so according to University of Michigan Professor Walter Mebane. He used statistical and computational “election forensics” to detect fraud in comparing 366 Iranian district results with those in the 2005 election and concluded that “substantial core” local results were in line with basic statistical trends. “In 2009, Mr. Ahmadinejad tended to do best in towns where his (2005) support was highest, and he tended to do worst (where) turnout surged the most.” He didn’t rule out the possibility of manipulation but found no evidence to prove it.
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America’s Post-WW II Meddling in Iran
Before becoming Prime Minister in 1951, Mohammed Mossadegh served in parliament beginning in 1944 and also worked with other members of the National Front of Iran (Jebhe Melli) to establish democracy, free of foreign influence, especially with regard to oil.
In December 1944, he introduced a bill to bar foreign country oil negotiations, yet Britain retained control through its Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC) at a time Iran’s southern region had the world’s largest known reserves. In late 1947, the government demanded a greater revenue share but Britain refused. In 1951, one month before Mossadegh became Prime Minister, Iran’s parliament nationalized the AIOC and paid fair compensation for it.
Economic sanctions and an oil embargo followed. Iranian assets were also frozen in British banks. Major Anglo-America oil interests supported London, while a CIA coup aimed to oust Mossadegh. Conceived by Theodore Roosevelt’s grandson Kermit, it took two attempts to succeed, and began each time by filling the streets with protesters against a leader The New York Times called “the most popular politician in the country.” Nonetheless, a military showdown followed against pro-Mossadegh officers with each side staking their careers on choosing the winning one.
Mossadegh was ousted. Reza Shah Pahlavi returned to power. Sanctions were lifted, and America and Britain regained their client state until February 1979 when the same Anglo-American interests turned on the Shah and deposed him.
F. William Engdahl explained it in his important book, “A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order.” In 1978, a White House Iran task force recommended ousting the Shah and replacing him with Ayatollah Khomeini, then living in France. It was part of a larger scheme to balkanize the Middle East along tribal and religious lines and create an “Arc of Crisis” from Central Asia to the Soviet Union.
Doing it in 1978 became urgent at a time the Shah was negotiating a 25-year oil agreement with British Petroleum (BP), but talks broke down in October. BP demanded exclusive rights to future output but refused to guarantee oil purchases. The Shah balked and looked for new buyers in continental Europe and elsewhere.
He also sought to create a modern energy infrastructure built around nuclear power generation to transform the region’s power needs. He envisioned 20 new reactors by 1995, wanted to diversity Iran’s dependence on oil to weaken Washington’s pressure to recycle petrodollars, and also increase investments in leading continental European companies.
Washington was alarmed, tried to block the plan but failed, and resorted instead to destabilization, starting with cutting Iranian purchases. Economic pressures and oil strikes followed along with US and UK agitators fanning religious discontent and other turmoil. The Carter administration urged Iran’s Savak secret police to crack down as a way to arouse anti-Shah sentiment. Western media highlighted it, gave Khomeini a public stage to speak and prevented the Shah from responding.
In January 1979, things came to a head. The Shah fled the country, Khomeini returned, and proclaimed a theocratic state. By May, he cancelled Iran’s nuclear plans. America thought it could control him and his nation’s oil but calculated wrongly. Tensions built, thirty years later they continue, and post-June 12 they may again be coming to a boil.
Iranian Street Protests and Their Ominous Possibilities
Leading up to and after the Iranian election, The New York Times played its customary role as lead media gatekeeper/instigator doing what it does best – sanitizing news, filtering out uncomfortable truths, and presenting distorted opinions for the powerful interests it represents.
Roger Cohen’s June 17 op-ed said 40 million Iranian “votes (were) flouted,” many of whom “have crossed over from reluctant acquiescence to the Islamic Republic into opposition. (The Republic) has lost legitimacy. It is fissured. It will not be the same again.” Does he know something we don’t?
He called Mousavi “the reformist of impeccable revolutionary credentials.” He’s “a credible vehicle for a reform regime that serves to preserve it – an acceptable compromise to most Iranians.” No matter that most of them apparently preferred Ahmadinejad, an outcome neither Cohen nor the Times accepts, or perhaps they and Washington do to be able to use his victory to incite trouble.
On June 17, The Times’ feature story highlighted “Iranians angry at the results of last week’s election (marshaled) tens of thousands (in) the streets (in spite of) signs of an intensified crackdown….the government expanded (it) with more arrests and pressure against journalists to limit coverage of the protests.”
Scant mention was made of huge pro-Ahmadinejad crowds in central Tehran nor has there been in other media reports, especially on television where, not surprisingly, coverage has been distorted, one-way, and hostile to the Iranian president and regime, much as it’s always been.
What’s going on? Are anti-Ahmadinejad protests spontaneous or are covert instigators inciting them?
The Pak Alert Press reported that former Pakistani Army General Mirza Aslam Beig claims that the CIA distributed around $400 million inside Iran to incite revolution. In a June 15 interview with Pashto Radio, he cited “undisputed” intelligence proving interference.
“The documents prove that the CIA spend $400 million inside Iran to prop up a colorful-hollow revolution following the election” to incite regime change for a pro-Western government. He called Ahmadinejad’s victory “a decisive point in regional policy and if Pakistan and Afghanistan unite with Iran, the US has to leave the area, especially (from) occupied Afghanistan.”
Writing in the New Yorker’s June 29, 2008 issue, Seymour Hersh said “Late last year, Congress agreed to a request from President Bush to fund a major escalation of covert operations against Iran, according to current and former military, intelligence, and congressional sources. These operations, for which the President sought up to four hundred million dollars, were described in a Presidential Finding signed by Bush, and are designed to destabilize the country’s religious leadership.”
Involved is support for Iranian dissidents and “gathering intelligence about Iran’s suspected nuclear-weapons program.” Perhaps later to disrupt the presidential election with Hersh saying Bush’s Finding “focussed on undermining Iran’s nuclear ambitions and trying to undermine the government through regime change (by)working with opposition groups and passing money,” according to a person familiar with its contents. His account is a year old but may be relevant to today, hopefully something he’ll substantiate in a future report given what’s now playing out.
On June 16, Computerworld’s Robert McMillan reported more of it in writing about key Iranian web sites knocked offline. “On (June 15), sites belonging to Iranian news agencies, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Iran’s supreme leader (Khamenei) were knocked offline after activists opposed to the Iranian government posted tools designed to barrage these websites with traffic.”
“This type of attack, known as a denial of service (DoS) attack, has become a standard political protest tool, and has been used by grassroots protesters” in previous cyber-incidents, including Georgia in 2008. Initial efforts were to recruit Iranian protesters, but international users are now being targeted.
Dancho Danchev is a security consultant. He counted 12 Iranian sites under attack, including news agencies, the Foreign Affairs Ministry, National Police, and Ministries of Interior and Justice. Iranian officials have responded in kind to prevent protesters from social networking. Iran’s General Internet service was also disrupted for a short time. It’s again operating but anything may happen going forward. Computer World said Twitter “emerged as the major source of information on the protests, and is being” picked up in major media coverage.
Of interest is a June 18 Yaroslav Trofimov Wall Street Journal online article headlined “Some Israelis Prize Ahmadinejad’s Role.” He explained that some high level Israelis prefer him in power. One is Mossad chief, Meir Dagan, telling a closed Knesset committee hearing that his controversial reputation “makes it easier for Israel to enlist international support against Iran’s nuclear program.” Mousavi winning, however, would have created “a graver problem.”
Israeli officials said that in the 1980s, Mousavi “jump-started Iran’s nuclear drive” as prime minister. Both he and Ahmadinejad “pose the same threat. But it’s better for Israel that you have a leader with a very dangerous ideology who speaks clearly so that nobody can ignore him,” according to Knesset deputy speaker Danny Danon. A more soft-spoken president promising improved relations “would have made it harder for us to recruit the world to our side,” he added, and the same argument holds for America.
Addressing the issue of a stolen election, Dagan dismissed it out of hand in saying alleged ballot-stuffing in Iran is no worse than common electoral fraud in all democracies. In his judgment, protests will fizzle in several days.
Ardesir Ommni, co-founder and president of the American Iranian Friendship Committee (AIFC), headlined his June 16 Mathaba.net article “Iran: Another Face of Velvet Revolution” in suggesting that Ahmadinejad’s opposition “is doing its utmost to create unrest and prepare the ground for a velvet takeover” much like others in Georgia and Ukraine as well as twice before in Iran.
It’s not “realizable in Iran,” he said, “because the workers and farmers, the millions who gave the lives of their children for the cause of independence and sovereignty, defend the Revolution and their real President who has frustrated the schemes and plots of the warmongers. (They’re proud that) Ahmadinejad has defied and resisted the war threats and sanctions by the same powers that have ruined the lives of” millions throughout the world and want no part of it themselves.
On June 15, Marxist.com editor Alan Woods expressed another view in headlining “Iran: the Revolution has begun.” He cited “dramatic events” with hundreds of thousands in Tehran and other city streets disputing the election results. Some marched silently. Others were vocal, angry and confronted by riot police crackdowns.
“The protests have marked the most serious display of discontent in the Islamic Republic in years. The breath of the mass movement is unprecedented (expressing) the accumulated rage and frustration that has been accumulating for the past 30 years….Power is slipping from the trembling hands of the leaders and passing to the streets….Nobody can say where events will end. But one thing is certain: Iran will never be the same again….the Iranian Revolution has begun!”
Woods sees it growing and suggests it’s progressing “through a whole series of stages before it has finally run its course. But in the end we are sure that it will triumph. When that moment comes, it will have explosive repercussions throughout the Middle East, Asia, and the whole world.”
Who can say if he, Ommni, or others are right or if Washington is plotting regime change, much like before in Iran and throughout the world. Thus far, events are fast moving with no clear outcome in sight. It remains to be seen whether Iranians or imperial America will prevail, then what happens next in this volatile part of the world.
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June 19th, 2009 at 9:20 am
This was a military coup, ordered by Supreme Leader Khameini. Pure and simple.
Marcus B Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 11:31 am
It’d be best if you didn’t simply regurgitate the lies spread by Anglo-American media on the basis of no real evidence at all. Read the article above — the evidence is overwhelming that Ahmadinejad legitimately won.
Censored31 Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Henry Kissinger (Bilderberg, CFR, Trilateral) threatens regime change in Iran if coup fails.
I tought he was only obsessed about little black boys ???
Ioannes Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 4:52 am
Anglo-American media? Who told you that? Alex Jones? Thought so. You know, most of the media moguls are Jewish. It’s the Jewish media. And Jews hate Iran a lot, so it’s no wonder they’re putting bad press about them.
Rich Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Anglo American, Jewish, what’s the difference? The Jews are the ones with souls and the rest of us are their animal possessions, one big happy family.
reovikes Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
see this is what’s happening: at first america was trying to play a non-interference campaign at least but slowly its beginning to look like something potentially could come of this between the us and iran. It seems every country is testing obama – b’c north korea, iran, etc all know obama is incompetent of decisive decision making.
Now thats where the interesting stuff occurs if the us is caught interfering what so ever. Obama will meet his downfall. OBama has pinned himself down by this phony peace-for-all foreign policy in the middle east. Its going to portray him as a hypocrit of his own beliefs.
Apparently there’s going to be another rally in iran tomorrow and things could get ugly especially with all the threats.
In the end though, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF VOTING FRAUD of LEGITIMATE VICTORY. its just rumors. just because you seethousands of protesters marching through tehran on the media, theres millions and millions watching them from the comfort of home. the protesters are going to get raped by the Basij or whatever they are called…
Rich Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 10:34 am
AMERICA should shut the fuck up in the middle east and get out. Better yet the corporation UNITED STATES OF AMERICA should get the fuck out of MY country. We can make a theme park out of DC, we’ll call it how to play death by deception.
June 19th, 2009 at 9:53 am
This is why I really stopped listening to Alex and co. I liked the guy but once you start talking about something you have no idea about and claim that Ahmadinejad really won, then you lose your credibility. As an Iranian American who’s been around to see previous elections and how they cheated back then as well, I am appalled by the coverage Iran has been getting on this site. I know I won’t be back to even read another piece of news from you guys. You guys can go support the murderous Iranian regime (it seems that’s your agenda at this point).
DonVonChristo Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Thank you, I can’t believe the respect and solidarity this website and commentors give to Ahmadinejad. The byline under the link to this story on the main page was absolutely ridiculous: Iran has “free elections”? What a farce. The fact is that many of the people on this website agree with Ahmadinejad that the current U.S. is indeed the Great Satan. It’s like people on here think that, at best, he’s the world’s foremost freedom fighter – and at worst, simply misguided. They don’t care that Iran’s elections are rigged, that they publicly execute their own free-living citizens, that they aggressively pursue nuclear weapons while aggressively calling out countries on their hit-list and denying world events that don’t fit the propaganda of the media that they do allow in their country.
The people on this site claim that “The answer to 1984 is 1776″, then go on to demonize every aspect of the freest country in the history of the world while lauding a dictatorial theocracy that violently stifles dissent.
Truth Is Power Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Yes John, Thank you so much.
Scandinavian Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
But this article is not written by Alex, in fact it is quite the opposite of what Alex said the other day. He stated that he definitely did not support Ahmadinejad and his evil regime, he supported the Iranian people.
Truth Is Power Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Then why is this article here?
reovikes Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
who is anyone to say what ruler is right for any country other than your own. if the iranian people wanted ahmedinejad to win then hell, that the right ruler for iran. stop thinking just about the US in the equation. For the american people mousavi is the desire choice cuz he will cooperate with us.
granted ahmedinejad is a psycho…
Rich Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 10:34 am
What business is it of yours???
June 19th, 2009 at 10:08 am
John,
I’m American, so I should know that who gets elected “President” matters as much as what type of “Charmin” toilet paper I buy. If you are Iranian, you should know the President in Iran is a puppet just the same.
Please inform more of your fellow humans from that part of the world.
Boyardee Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Exactly.
I’m very curious as to what open minded, free thinkers in that part of the world are thinking, observing, and worrying or not worrying about.
But how do you tell what’s valid and whats not?
The msm is crap and lies… Even this site posts articles from other media outlets, some more reputable than others. How to sort it?
Voice of Reason Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Boyardee, you are so right! I was unaware of the computerized vote counting in Iran: that WOULD have permitted a rapid declaration of the winner, for whatever that is worth. I have known Iranians for decades: back in the early 1980s, I even worked for one, in the computer industry! Iranians are NOT just “stupid sheet heads”: they were maintaining and flying American F-14 “Tomcat” fighters even BEFORE the “Islamic Revolution” of 1979-1980!
Iranians are GREAT people: if they have any problems it is their Shi’ah Islamic Religion. On the greatest religious holiday on the Shi’ah calendar, male Shi’ah walk the streets beating themselves with whips, chains, and even swords, until the blood runs freely: how sick is that? We haven’t seen THAT sort of sado-masochistic, mass mental illness in the West since the “flagellant” movement in the 1300s, as a response to the Black Plague!
Who’s right and who’s wrong? Like you, Boyardee, I don’t know…(sigh!)…I just hope it all turns out for the best for the suffering Iranian People!
reovikes Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
you are not a free thinker – a free thinker interprets information for themselves. A free thinker doesn’t read these articles and uses them as their opinion. They develop their own opinion unbias of social, economic, or political influence
John Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
I know the problem is the regime. The problem is, Infowars is now claiming that maybe, just maybe Ahmadinejad is the best for Iran. Are you kidding me? My dad was a political figure in Iran. He was tortured beyond any waterboarding you hear in the U.S. You think waterboarding is bad? Wait till you hear my Dad’s stories. For anyone, and I mean anyone, who has not lived in Iran and claim that maybe Ahmadinejad is won when my relatives, my uncles, aunts, … live there and are going to jail for having green shirts on, it’s just irresponsible to claim Ahmadinejad won. Did you read the letter that was published from the Iran officials to the leader? Did you know the guy who leaked it had a convenient car accident? Maybe that letter was fake but the guy who leaked is dead regardless. And how about Iranian students dying. I don’t give a thing about the Iranian regime or politics in general. I value human life. When you see students die for standing up for their rights, when you see a million people going to streets, you don’t say “oh Ahmadinejad won.” Like I said. I like Alex. I respect him. I think he is a good guy. But he’s got to stop connecting the dots the wrong way here. Iran is not a christian country, and I know Alex is a super christian. But that doesn’t mean we are all mean, savage people, dying to re-elect Ahmadinejad.
Marcus B Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Dude, just read the article, sort through the evidence. You’re using emotional instead of factual appeals. Look at the evidence, please.
John Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Dude. I am freaking Iranian, lived there for 20 years! I know what I know. Don’t need foreigners to tell me what’s going on in my own country, especially when they take the side of Ahmadinejad. No emotions for me. I want the regime gone. Don’t care for either Mousavi or Ahmadinejad.
Censored31 Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
John…be patient…WE will take care of them…we will change that regime when the Moudjahideen of the Khorâsân will bring Charia law…we will hang all those brutal leaders who killed so many innocent civilians (Iran, Iraq etc…)
Their time is soon over….trust in God the Almighty…and then we will free the palestinians too.
Rich Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 10:38 am
You are what is wrong with America! You should know and control YOUR PUBLIC SERVANTS. They are yours. Let the Iranians deal with their own scene.
June 19th, 2009 at 10:32 am
” Bush Nuke Scandal with Iran ”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I-1Fml6gSY
June 19th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Why is Ahmadinejad smiling ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
June 19th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Mr. Lendman along with Media Research are such a wealth of truthful information. Years ago we used to have a free press in America, before the globalists bought them all up. We need to give Media Research and sites like infowars.com are total support. The MSM is nothing but a propaganda machine of the power-elite. Mr. Lendman, just like Alex Jones, cuts through all the spin and disinformation and gives us the facts. The truth will always win in the end; they can try to distort it, or supress it but we can now see behind the curtain and who is pulling the strings. Thank you Mr. Lendman and Alex Jones. Humanity will defeat this dark-evil, New World Order.
June 19th, 2009 at 11:40 am
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June 19th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
I watched this morning the voting on H. Res 650 and posted it on PP Forums. Here is what I wrote;
How hypocritical our Government is, then again we knew that, support Iran to protest or dissent, but here we are demonized and featured in DHS or MIAC(?) documents as terrorists! It passed 405 to 1. I’ll bet Ron Paul was the 1 no vote as he usually is on resolutions that are useless
http://www.gop.gov/press-relea.....olution-in
Pence Introduces Bipartisan Resolution in Support of Iranian Dissidents
“The joint resolution I and Chairman Berman introduced will give voice to countless Americans who stand with the Iranian dissidents as they stand up for freedom.”
Washington, DC – U.S. Congressman Mike Pence, Chairman of the House Republican Conference, issued the following statement after he and House Foreign Affairs Chairman Howard Berman (D-CA) joined together to introduce a resolution in support of the Iranian dissidents:
“This is an important moment for the Congress, our country and the people of Iran,” said Pence. “For days hundreds of thousands of dissidents have taken to the streets of Iran in support of freedom and democracy. The American cause is freedom and in that cause the American people will not be silent. I am honored to join Chairman Berman in offering this important resolution. The joint resolution I and Chairman Berman introduced will give voice to countless Americans who stand with the Iranian dissidents as they stand up for freedom. I urge Members on both side of the aisle to support this important resolution and I hope for its immediate consideration.”
June 19th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
their elections are a sham? well, so are ours.
1776blues Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Their elections may be a sham, but the CIA had something to do with the results! No matter if they are a sham, I imppressed with their turn out 85%. They do use paper ballots though.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/w.....09.article
At issue in Iran election: How fast can 40 million ballots be counted?
One of the central questions was how 39.2 million paper ballots could be counted by hand and final results announced by authorities in Tehran in just over 12 hours. Past elections took at least twice as long.
June 19th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Hey there I live in the island of bahrain which is ruled by a monarchy ,, i would like to say my point of view, ,, iran is an evil nation thats been leading the mehdi army in Iraq which has the sole purpose of exterminating sunni shias by orders of evil guy in a turban Khamenei ,, anyways they have infiltrated the government of Iraq with the help of the Americans !! and no one wonder they protect their interests ,, most current government of Iraq is of Iranian decent and follow their own orders and they dont serve the interests of Iraq… That said ,, they efficiently allocate oil to the americans on contracts with them getting part of the comission
. Soooo they kill and kill and kill more sunnis because according to them we are pigs and should be killed but its not practiced publicly !!! MUCH LIKE MA$ONRY I SUPPOSE !!! unofficial reports claim of more than one million sunnis ethnically cleansed in Iraq to inject more shias into there.. Thats why the rest of the gulf is scared of them and falling on AMericas “protection” from them ,, SO ALL IN ALL THIS WHOLE WORLS Is GOING DOWN THE TOILET!!!!
Peace and love
bar abbas = son of god Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
I agree with ya mOHAMED. The mehdi ‘army’ was used to try to diminish the Iraqi Sunni resistance.
On a side note: I just returned home from a Persian restaurant that is about 2 miles down the road; great food. But, after I finished eating, the Persian waitress & I began talking for about 40 minutes and one thing we talked of was the elections in Iran.
She has been in America for 4 years now. Before that she was in Australia and before that she lived in Austria. Her take was that the Shah was good and after him, it all basically went downhill after that. She also added that Europeans loved to vacation in Iran and after the Shah was out, then that came to end. [ that was her take on it ]. She looked to be about 28 or 31…somewhere in there. She is not muslim.
david welch Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
the shah was good? i guess all murdering dictators have friends too.
June 19th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
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June 19th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Life, sorry dude but that video was really fake. Really, really fake.
I’m not even going to go into why the story presented is absurd.
Anyhow, I believe in the NWO, Illuminati (blah, blah) so yeah, I am a “conspiracy theorist”- BUT when someone sites a video such as that I must wonder about the company I find myself in. =(
June 19th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
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Brandon- I respect what your doing and all- But I have a few questions Bro.
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Wouldn’t staying in the U.S.A. and serving your Countrymen (in the way you were “called” by God to do- I.E. a ministry) and using that 6k towards helping people out and not paying your debt?
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Questions I must know.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
at it again!! Not many people know that Iran does not charge interest on their money. Usury is against their religion. I wonder if this is why the fed wants to get in there.
June 19th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
I’m going to lay it all out for you…
This is, and has always been a war over the truth and the lie, a.k.a. light and dark.
The group thats is in power over the world now believes its fulfilling prophecy by performing these events. They believe this is a grand conjure of their lord and master. But what they refused to learn and accept is that all things lay in GOD’s hands. Prophecy is divine, but its interpreted by mortals. The truth is there, just never the way you might see it. Ahmadinejad is the NWO guy to bring about their armageddon. But GOD has other plans for the world and they cant stand it. Stand with your fellow man, in him u can trust, because at the end you know, ashes to ashes, dust, to dust…
June 19th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
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June 19th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
I wonder if this will lead up to U.S. MILITARY intervention at some point.
June 20th, 2009 at 12:31 am
Ahmad Chalabi; the darling of the “neo-cons” and his Iranian connections.
http://downwithtyranny.blogspo.....rator.html
June 20th, 2009 at 1:41 am
It’s interesting to read the different points of view displayed here. One interesting similarity amongst the arguments of those defending the illuminati’s coverage of the events in Iran through it’s various media outlets such as MSNBC, is that they all claim to be Iranian or within Iran, or from those with close ties to Iranians. One thing is for certain, the “elite” want to control everything, so anything that apposes them is probably not as bad as them. It can also be viewed as two dogs fighting over the same peice of meat. Both may actually have no intention of good; so it is with them. Iran is controlled by it’s northen neighbor’s in Russia. So who is on the right side? Jesus is the way, the truth and the light. I understand what Alex Jones when he said that he doesn’t support Ahmadinajed, but supported the people. That’s who suffer from all of the propagandizing taking place on both sides; we suffer. The people of this world God created. So who’s side will we choose this day? The lines have been drawn and the standard raised. Follow His 10 commandments and acknowledge Jesus is The Messiah.
Amen.
June 20th, 2009 at 3:28 am
This incident has CIA propaganda written all over it, just google RENDON group and see how CIA does its propaganda.
June 20th, 2009 at 9:10 am
one thing has come about..this supreme leader has been forced to show his face to the world..for as long back to the kennedy murder..the real dark ones who plan it all..who lurk in the darkness..this demonic supreme leader..its him and his fellow clerics who want iran to have nukes in order to blackmail the west..convert or die…islams main order of existence..leader= fuhrer..he looks like some twisted rabbi..drunk on power…ready to kill his own people if they do not agree with him..who says history doesnt repeat itself?..he would kill the world for allah…i say lets send him and his fellow old men to meet the great allah..the sooner the better..
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One could equate Zionism with the Roman Empire. Crucifictions are less visible and different mind control techniques are utilized. But eventually we as a World Community must find a way to not allow are children to be used by al Dajal to slaughter each other. We can help each other to achieve freedom and self-determination. Let are hands be clean of innocent bllod.
June 20th, 2009 at 11:01 am
I’m so sick of this corporate scum media acting like what the Iranian pigs and leadership filth are doing could or would never happen here. America is the epitome of cracking down on protesters and rioters. I’ll just name a few I can think of off the top of my head. Kent State University, where 4 students were shot and killed at the hands of the piece of shit National Guard. America gunning down it’s own people that wanted change. The protests in Los Angeles in 1992, where that new world order fuck stain George H.W. Bush sent in the national guard to suppress change and the voice of the people. WTO protests in Seattle in 1999, where pigs beat and gassed the very people they were to protect, beating innocent citizens, barring people with buttons and other forms of FREE SPEECH from entering any area near where the ilk of the WTO were meeting. All you have to do is go to You Tube and type in riots, police brutality or protests and you will see thousands of videos from America of pigs and storm troopers beating, gassing, torturing and killing Americans for wanting change (as the media says that’s all the Iranians want). Not to mention all the blood thirsty gang bangin pigs who beat, taze, gas and murder people who did not pose a real threat to a pigs life. So to CNN, FOX, MSNBC and all your demon affiliates, all the local news spawns of your evil parents, quit being such open hypocrites. I know most of the American sheep are lobotomized reeses monkeys with mercury, lead and flouride riddled brains, but give us a little fuckin credit, we do have some sort of memory.
bar abbas = son of god Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Yep…and what about the phrase of, ” he gassed his own people. ” Hell, the US govt has been carrying out tests on the American populations in US cities for decades and other such guinea pig testing.
Wounded Knee in the 70’s was another. Ruby Ridge…
June 20th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
“Real” elections??? “REAL”??? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What, like the sham they run here in the US?? Well spank my ass and call me Sally……LOOK AT US WORLD……YOU NEED TO BE JUST LIKE US, WE’RE SOOOOOOO GREAT, AND LOOK HOW WELL OUR GOVERNMENT HAS IT’S SHIT TOGETHER.
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