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Iraq: Theater of the Macabre
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Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
March 4, 2008
In response to Alex’s call for videos demonstrating the psychopathology and sadism of “our troops” in Iraq following the breaking story of David Motari, the alleged Marine puppy killer, listeners have responded on the Prison Planet Forum with a virtual theater macabre of sickness and deranged perversity.
Please note: it is extremely difficult for us to post these videos and we do not do so out of any morbid fascination with murder, torture, and humiliation, but rather as an example of the sort of behavior “our troops” engage in as they go about undertaking the criminal dirty work of the hell spawn neocons. Considering the almost complete lack of coverage of these disgusting events in the corporate media, we feel compelled to post these videos.
Remember, a large percentage of Iraqi veterans end up working for police departments when they finish their “tours” in Iraq — multiple back-to-back tours, obviously to indoctrinate them in sadism and the techniques of inhumanity — and will be used against the American people during the next “emergency” when the reigning decider-commander — Bush, Obama, or Hillary — will impose martial law.
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March 4th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
In Iraq the US soldiers but little parts of weapons and things and use it as bait. When an Iraqi sees it and approaches it they instantly open fire on them. How disgusting? We are always told to respect the troops and that, but I’m sorry to say but I have no respect for the majority of them in Iraq at the moment.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Video of U.S. soldiers shooting unarmed Iraqi civilians
http://www.informationclearing.....e17393.htm
In the end of the video its makes a joke about “no unarmed civilians were killed” just to show how obvious it was that none of those poor people had any weapons.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
My God. Never ever ever again allow troops or mercinaries to operate domesticaly. These people are scum.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
That is some fucked up shit! Dont those soldiers have any respect?
March 4th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
To their defense, you don’t look at an animal the same way after you see it feeding off the human dead or running around with rabies trying to chew off it’s own leg off. It’s not easy to get used to killing. Then there is a point where it becomes casual. It’s a job where you kill for a living, of course, death is monotonous.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
SICK.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Death isnt monotounous for the individual being killed though. You only got one life and it’s the best thiing you got so fuck those soldiers and i hope they get killed over there. Because if they dont, they’ll come here and kill me or you, or rape our daughters or something.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
I grew up around some bad people, steet thugs and petty criminals. But these people are far more sicker and twisted than drug dealers and gang bangers.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Gee, I wonder why the evil muslims hate America, huh?
March 4th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Thank you for liberating Iraq, Bush!..
March 4th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
This is what happens when the little punks are faced with a real enemy.
http://www.dailymotion.com/vid.....s_politics
March 4th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Same thing happened in Viet Nam, only worse. This is the reality of war. I used to watch the History Chanel alot. I loved WWII documentaries… all the heroic tales, and bravery, etc. That’s not war, THIS is war. I’m not condoning it, I’m just saying people are stupid if they think war can be civilized.
And yeah, I’m worried about what happens when the war ends.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Ahhhh a shining example of Democracy at it’s finest!
Want to play a game? this is great, it took me days to find this info, but it is true:
I call it “WHO SAID WHAT BUSH OR HITLER???” Answers at the bottom
1) “An evil exists that threatens every man, woman, and child of this great nation. We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland.”
Bush or Hitler?
2) “My administration has focused the nation’s resources on our highest priority – protecting our citizens and our homeland,”
Bush or Hitler?
3) “Not as tyrants have we come, but as liberators.”
Bush Or Hitler?
4)“We come not as conquerors, but as liberators”
Bush or Hitler?
a: 1) Hitler; 2) Bush; 3) Hitler; 4) Bush
so how did you do? I know it was a real hard one, they are SO close!!!
March 4th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Brave young men are turning into INHUMAN killers for the sake of pleasing ISRAEL and one day they will come hoime…… will Israel pay for the damages they wreck on society ???
March 4th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Read the Protocals of the elders of Zion. You’ll understand all of this after you read it.
Saddened to see this.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
THE PROTOCOLS OF THE ELDERS OF ZION IS A ROAD MAP OF WHAT IS TO COME.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
These Devils are worse than HITLER could ever be now I know why they don’t come they LOVE what there doing they even look crosseyed here they will be dealt with In a war they deserve,there misery will be over,Just Imagine thats your future scum police I also think they should be in prison for their crimes 25 years to start with go from there.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Did you see the above video about how they GANG RAPED an Iraqi girl who then committed suicide ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFOF-jv32dA
March 4th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
My GOD – that can’t be the true face of America! Tell me I’m not seeing this!
March 4th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
I want you crazy cops and you fucking insane military demons to understand something – THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOU ON YOUR OWN SOIL.
March 4th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
I’d like to see that drunk soldier with the bald head and his depraved brethren have their way with Michelle Malkin… but skip the romance and go straight to cappin’ her NeoCon ass!
March 4th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
This isn’t the America I grew up in. I don’t recognize these specters. I only want them dead and gone.
If the politicos are reading our posts, looking for potential political prisoners…you will only get some of us. You won’t get us all. And there will be hell to pay for your crimes. Literally.
March 4th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
ohhh americans are sooooo bad because they killed a dog. OHHH NO!!!!!!!!! i guess its ok that thousands of people have been blown up or shot, but some stupid dog gets killed and EVERYONE makes a huge deal out of it. People hang for not obeying the will of a MADE UP religion and its not that big of a deal, a DOG gets shot and now americans are HITLER!!!! OHHHH its some conspiracy against our “rights” that we invaded iraq. They just want all the soldiers to become crazy asshole cops, looks more like they are there to gain experiance so they can go work for the dog pound. dogs get gassed every day. im over it. some little dog gets thrown off a cliff, so what. i guess we should be making bombs and blowing shit up to make a point.
March 4th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
please keep this page up. sad but excellent source of material.
March 4th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Dead Dog…you are a dehumanized piece of SHIT. Another fucking coward that supports an illegal war…perhaps someone should show up on YOUR doorstep one day and pop a cap in your head….how would you like that, ASSHOLE??? Ya fucking lowlife Anti-american fascist jerk off!!! What a fucking loser you are!
March 4th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
DeadDog clearly has the mind of a retarded child ignore him, to the point these videos clearly show only a small precentage of the horrors being commited in the name of freedom in Iraq this needs to be exposed.
March 4th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
lots of criminal activity in Iraq from our ground troops… and I would know I was there Ive seen it …for one exsample a Sargent buttstroking ( rifle butt ) a small boy in the head.. than running back thinking its a big joke saying “I always wanting to do that” That pissed me of ..Yeah alot of are stealing going on too ..The fucked up part is that they get awards or medals like the did something honerable …just like the blind obedient dogs getting a treat…..good job Fido
March 4th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Please, God, regardless of religion: For those of us with light in our souls, who naturally find this material reprehensible – for those of us who even have souls, please save us from this hell on Earth. Save us from these savages…these retarded apes.
March 4th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
apocalypse now
March 4th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
you reap what you sow.
sic fucks, whan it goes down, no prisoners.
March 4th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Dead Dog, Admit yourself to an insitution for criminally insane. My dog licks the tears from my checks and tries to comfort me when I cry. No one else cares.
March 4th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Yes, these kinds of videos and the psychopathic websites have been around for quite a while, it’s loooong overdue these sick, dark, corners of our society are brought into the light, make the mainstream media explain themselves for not reporting on this and in most cases defending this unjust and useless war that creates an environment for this kind of mental illness to arise. A documentary about this would be great, How would you go about tracking down the original copies of these vids?
March 4th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
I want to thank prison planet for showing us the real War. I’m am going to send prison planet a check for 100.00 dollars. I’m asking all who see this too pledge the same. I use to be critical of Alex because I couldn’t handle the truth but now I’m awake. I’m sorry for the way I acted. Thank God for this web site and the whole crew here and in the UK. From this day I will fully support this great work with my time, prayers and funds. Will you? Frankl4
March 4th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
The Barbaric savages are here. Unbelievable cruelty to anything living: babies, pets, women, men, families. Watching this reminds me of horror movies involving demonic possession.
Our Country needs to toss aside pride and evil, and repent and turn back to God.
http://www.angelfire.com/tx5/p.....eople.html
Here are a few exerpts from above link.
IF MY PEOPLE
II Chronicles 7:14 “If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin, AND WILL HEAL THEIR LAND.”
“America today is in trouble. Our country has shifted to a vile immoral country. America today has lost touch with the God of their forefathers and continues to spiral downwardly as a nation.”
“You know the trouble with America today is not the unsaved. Its the Christians. That’s who God’s speaking to in this verse, is God’s people. We have given up our role and many things in the worlds and sat down and flat out compromised with the world, allowing our testimonies and position on this earth to be watered down.”
“If my people. We are the ones who didn’t stand up for ourselves and allowed prayer and God to be taken out of the schools. We are the ones who have allowed this theory of evolution to be brought into our schools. This is where they teach the kids to doubt the Bible before they are even taught it. They are being taught that they started out as the slime of the earth, but are getting better. That man developed his own rules and they have deemed it right in their eye’s to do as they wish, and they are doing just that.”
Jeremiah 6: 15-16
15) Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore they shall fall among them that fall: at the time I visit them they shall be cast down, saith the Lord
16) Thus saith the Lord, Stand in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.
“That looks like a close picture of America today. They have no shame in anything they do today. But the Lord has told us to walk in the old ways, walk the old paths and stay within them, then we shall find rest. But that’s up to us, weather we walk according to the Bible, or if we can give up in America and continue the path of distruction America is heading for, and taking us with her.”
I hope a few here will check out this link and read all of it.
May God have mercy on us.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Get armed!
March 4th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
God will soon appear as Light on this world. Shining on all darkness and eliminating all pain, those who perpetuate fear and hatred will meet their controller. Satan has plenty room in the Lake of Fire.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Very disgusting, no doubt every one of the kids returning home from Iraq are equally brainwashed and indoctrinated, in this same fashion. Unfortunate that a great many of them returning will be just as damaged mentally. Most will go on to find jobs back in the states as police “officials” or get put in other similar positions…
March 4th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
Remember those 4 Green Berets who murdered their wives and then committed suicide a few years ago ?
Within one week four special forces ops personnel who just returned from Afghanistan killed their families and then committed suicide like some CURSE had been put on them from GOD.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Absolutely disgusting! – And just think once martial law is called that death machine can be turned on us!
March 4th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
All I can say is I hope you guys have seen the movie ZEITGEIST. Deprogram yourselves…. All of you.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Don’t be a Zeitgeist Zombie, watch Zeitgeist Refuted. Zeitgeist mixes 9/11 truth with lies about Jesus Christ and the Bible. Rat poison is 99% food with 1% poison.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
I won’t cry when these soldiers face their trials and spend the rest of their lives in jail. In fact, please keep all these soldiers over there in jail and never bring them back to the US, ever. As far as them “keeping me safe” and “fighting for my liberty” I can do without their “call to duty” crap. I have never understood why we look up to people who are trained killers and treat them as some sort of god. They have their place as does an ice pick, but we don’t get all teary-eyed and think they are protecting us form a bloody looming iceberg 7000 miles away. When the military discovers that they are our servants and not overlords, we may then get a proper perspective of how we should view them. The days of the Navy’s Scouts and Raiders, the original Navy Seals, of which my father was a member, are long gone. Getting dropped off a sub and told to destroy people and things and be back at 3:00am or you’ll be left, is a little different then murdering innocent civilians and animals for fun and sport. These “warriors” make me sick to my soul.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
You know DeathDog, had you been face to face to SICKOFTHELAWLESSNESS, I think he would have stomped your ass. As a matter of fact, so would I. Likely many of the people who read and post to and from this site. Keep in mind, eventually, it will be your own friends.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
What the hell do you think! All americans care about is money! You are the most Greedy, Hate
Filled People on this earth! You care more about your car than your nabor! Do you even know your nabor? Hell is comming to you! You watch WAR on your TV! That is isnane! You should have done something! Now its too late! God Has Turned His Back On You! God does not bless american any more! and HELL IS COMMING TO YOU
March 4th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
No Way Out: One of Jefferson Starship’s best songs. I love that keyboard work!
March 4th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
Dear SICKOFTHELAWLESSNESS
You are a terrorist and anti American. You are threatening me with harm. Not directly, but you are.
Its not my fault I am right. Why should I die because I don’t think there is something wrong with our soldiers over there risking their lives. You go over there you fucking pussy. I am not a nazi you fucking COMMUNIST! I am not in any way anti American or fascist. You’re more of an anti American then I am. Oh yeah, I still support our soldiers rights to kill dogs. You are a terrorist. Dogs can be used as suicide bombers. Shove some c4 up a dogs ass and send it at some Americans.
Darren, you like little boys.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
“Every man is his own hell.” ~ H. L. Mencken
http://911essentials.com
March 4th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
CENTCOM LEAVE ALEX JONES ALONE
YOU HARM A HAIR ON JONES’ HEAD
AND YOU ARE DEAD
YOU HEAR ME ?
THIS IS SERIOUS – WE ARE WATCHING YOU , YOU TREACHEROUS SCUM
March 5th, 2008 at 12:00 am
CENTCOM YOUR LIES ARE BEING EXPOSED
SURE YOURE PANICKING
JUST WAIT UNTIL THE WHOLE FACADE BREAKS DOWN
THEN SO WILL YOU , YOU GODDAM EVIL SCUM.
THE ARMY IS READY TO TURN ON YOU
YOU ARE ABOUT TO OVER REACH
AND YOU KNOW IT
TURN AWAY FROM YOUR EVIL
BEFORE IT COSTS YOUR LIFE
THE ANGER IN THE COUNTRY IS BUILDING ALL THE TIME
FORGET YOUR FEMA CAMPS FOR US
THEY WILL BE FOR YOU
IF YOURE LUCKY, SCUM !
March 5th, 2008 at 12:05 am
During the initial invasion there was one instance I remember when Iraqi prisoners (soldiers) were begging for water. A soldier heated up some water over the humvee and then poured it in one of the prisoners mouth like the prisoner was a baby bird. And then they laughed. There are good soldiers out there but there are also a lot of ignorant dumb asses.
March 5th, 2008 at 1:12 am
I have never seen anything so sick in my entire life. Killing innocent civilians as if they are some kind of cheap thrill. I was in the military and stationed in the Middle East. These Arabs are human beings also and they are made in the image of God! This is truly sick! God will certainly judge this nation for this, you mark my words! Neocons love to be cheerleaders for this kind of sick stuff because they are not witnessing it first hand and it does not affect them personally, yet! That young man that told the truth about Iraq has more guts than the cowards killing people for fun! I hope that these soldiers repent and come out of this and come out and speak the truth so Americans will get it through their stupid skull that this war is one of the greatest injustices of all time! How can Bush sleep at night? He has to be one sick individual!
March 5th, 2008 at 2:00 am
The very gates of HELL have been opened, and demons of death are given free reign. Our country is gone. Law and Order must be restored, and it can never happen with these devils moving into our police forces. We are in TROUBLE. Thousands have been murdered with tasers right here. And people are still being shot down with guns right here. It is getting close to the time when we must stop looking the other way, or driving by when we see a traffic stop. Our officers need us to surround them and make sure nothing goes sour.
March 5th, 2008 at 2:15 am
This makes me want to join up… I want to be standing next to those marines when they pull this stuff, that way I can stand up to them.
March 5th, 2008 at 7:04 am
I understand these guys want to come home and not be killed , but these guys are assholes, how many babies have they killed? no morales…
March 5th, 2008 at 7:09 am
Every one of these videos is a testament to why you shouldn’t be sitting on your computer typing about it, you should be in front of the white house yelling about it.
March 5th, 2008 at 7:57 am
near 200,000 regular troops, near as many blackwater and other mercenaries, then theres the numbers of UN troops, Mexican and Canadian troops, I would guess near a total of 2 million.
the US troop casualties vs. the numbers of Iraqi casualties considered, THEY (NWO) probably think they would have it all sewn up, but “we” were only supposed to be in the Middle East how long? exposing what kind of people, is only the beginning. reading between the lines of these “new (totally unAmerican) laws”, “THEY” have already declared political, social, and economic WAR upon “we the people”. this needs to be translated into common terms that we can all understand, not the “legaleze” dewey decimal referenced doublespeaking gibberish designed to keep us all confused about the realities. the NWO criminals in charge have been pushing this creeping agenda for over 50 years by stealth, enough is enough. they have gone too far and it shows.
March 5th, 2008 at 8:19 am
JESUES, WHAT CAN BE DONE TO REALLY STOP THIS SHIT, THE SHIT KEEPS GETTIN DEEPER AND I REALLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING, BUT WHAT, WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER, I AM FUCKING SICK WATCHING THIS! IS IT JUST TIME TO JUST MOVE FROM THIS COUNTRY? CANT WAIT TO GO TRAVELING AS AN AMERICAN ABROAD, THATS GONNA BE ALOT OF FUN. I THOUGHT WE WERE THE GOOD GUYS, THE GUYS WHO DID THE RIGHT THING, THE PLACE WHERE EVERYONE WANTED TO BE, SHIT BY THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING THAT PLACE AINT HERE NO MORE. GOD BLESS US INDEED
March 5th, 2008 at 8:24 am
bro b well it really wont do anygood to move out of the country ..it is a global plan the only way is to get those responsible and that is the bilderbergs Rothchilds cfr members
March 5th, 2008 at 8:26 am
DAN NOT THE SOLDIERS FAULT MANY DO NOT KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN USED…OH AND IT IS WAR REMEMBER?
March 5th, 2008 at 8:31 am
joeliberty STOP BLAMING AND JUDGEING THE SOLDIERS KILL OR BE KILLED WE SENT THEM TO AN ILLEGAL WAR REMEMBER NOT THIER FAULT WE NEED TO STAY ON THE ISSUE OF OUR SOLDIERS BEING USED AND BRING THEM THE HELL HOME……we are gonna NEED THE them ….NO JOKE WHAT DO YOU EXPECT WE SENT THEM TO THIS WAR BLAME THE ONLY ONE (WELL OTHERS ) RESPONSIBLE SIG HEIL BUSH
March 5th, 2008 at 8:35 am
WHAT YOU THINK ALL THE MARINES ARE LIKE THIS ??? NOOOOTTT NOT
March 5th, 2008 at 9:45 am
wow…the one with them teasing the kids to run for water wow
March 5th, 2008 at 10:28 am
Ignorance of the Law is no Defense. Ignorance of God’s Law is no Defense. Just because many of these troops are Stupid kids with Stupid parents does not excuse them for fighting in an unjust unlawful war. God is against America in this war and you can better believe HE is against all these stupid wicked peon troops. He who supports the wicked IS wicked. He who supports da troops is wicked. People who don’t have their heads up their butts don’t send their boys to join the USA military to fight for the New World Order of Satan. And intelligent moral boys who find themselves in this situation, who come to life in this situation, face court martial rather than continue with it. 911 and the following anthrax attacks were false flag ops by the USA government. There is NO justification for these mideast wars and they are unlawful by Constitution. American military has committed Genocide in these unlawful wars. Give me a break! Of course these troops are wicked.
March 5th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Wow, I watched two videos and now I feel like throwing up (shooting dogs). Where the fuck is PETA and the ASPCA when you need them. They’re known as leather necks and devil dogs…but everyone knows them as baby killers…I mean marines. Sick Fucks. I’m sick of hearing about support the troops. no one twisted their arms to join the military. It’s one thing if your drafted, it’s another when you decide to join. You get what you ask for.
March 5th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
After watching these videos (I noticed most of them have been taken down before I could get to them but I’ve seen enough!), you can really see the effects of what desensitizing has done to society. All that TV, video games, computer sex, constantly being semi-merged with some form of artifical intelligence that demands your soul for it’s downloadable pleasures and fantasy escapes from the real world that creates the catharsis to grow up and become wise and most of all, compassionate toward others. It’s like, your walking down the street with your i-pod, lost in this fantasy world you create with your music blarring in your ears. How many people did you notice walking by you? What did they look like? Did you notice anyone trying to say “hi” to you? Did you notice the beautiful flowers or the homeless person sleeping under filthy blankets? When you become a society that has begun the cyborgic emergence with artificial intelligence, all that we gain, no matter how glamourous, convienent or “superior” it may be, A.I., in the final reality of things is still artificial intelligence that can never reduplicate the essence of a human soul. And the cultivation of that essence is essential for humans to be what humans are ment to be, compassionate and respectful to others. That soul is what we loose in that cyboric emergence.
So, when you send kids who have grown up being de-soulized, not just by technology but also by narcissism being presented in culture and hip religions, with a heavy dose of zenophobia and cultic nationalism (called patriotism), are we suprised at this behaviour? When you grow up living 1/2 of your time in video games and the other 1/2 either with an i-pod in your ears or watching TV or engaging in cyber sex, where is the time to explore your soul and time to cultivate it’s qualities that causes you to love a puppie, not throw it over a cliff? To respect people, not shoot them up like video game characters? The cultivated soul that will not obey an order to shoot civilians in America or Britian if Bush or Brown try in enforce martial law? The soul that won’t shoot your puppy or rape your wife, or daughter if all this Iraq blow back comes home to roost, as the farmers say?
We have to remember that all these people are comming home. Do you want someone like these soldiers living next to you, in your neighborhood or community? As it stands right now, our governments don’t give a damn about these soldiers (our soldiers reflect it back on the civilians) and will dump them on our streets when they are finised with them and either we will face their violence in the streets as a crazed shooter or as a soldier killing us in the name of stopping terrorism because once murder is in you, you can’t stop. Right now all the money is being hoarded by the elites. Cities are now going bankrupt (Vellejo, California being one of many), what money there is still left $650b of it will be spent on this 100 year war this year, pennies and pences being spent on cleaning up the (physic) dammage war has caused and we, the depressed public will have have to face the hell.
My advice, make a presentation about how war is and about those who promote war from these videos if you have the technology. You Tube your presentation, burn it to disc and give it to kids or schools. In that presintation, explain to them that war is not a video game and real people die, like you. Also ask the question: “do you want to end up being like these soldiers?” Advise them to not join the military and to spend more time with their souls and other souls and less time with A. I.
March 6th, 2008 at 12:50 am
These videos are so HORRIFYING they are hard to watch. I say instead of supporting the troops, I say we SPIT ON THEM!
THere are many of you are are very good at gathering the info on the scum bags and I think we should track them down and put copies of these videos of them everywhere they live about their CRIMES. I am talking friends, family, neighbors, grocery stores etc.
It is clear their parents have not taught them well and the parents are also to blame. If they truly had a SOUL they COULD NOT do this no matter what.
I am sick of hearing how the troops joined the service to “fight for our freedoms, or to protect America”. this is such BULL, in fact just ask most of them WHY they joined and they will tell you it was because they were promised a FREE education, a big signing bonus and other SELF SERVING reasons. It had NOTHING to do with “freedoms, or you and me” it was ALL ABOUT THEM.
Now I do not care that they had self serving reasons, but don’t cry to me just because you end up having to go to war and risk your life. This is what you were being paid for and agreed to when you took the money, benefits etc.
Yes there were a few that joined for a good cause after we were all SOLD the 911 LIE, but that is a very small portion of them.
I wouldn’t given one red cent to support one soldier or his family. After watching these videos and others I have NO pitty for them. I also think the videos that has the RAPIST admitting raping the 15 yr old girl in Guantanimo should be ARRESTED for WAR CRIMES and hung himself. I am sure he would also give up the guy who PIMPED her out and he too needs to be ARRESTED, but meanwhile the video needs to be copied and plastered all over his home town, sent to his parents and the police.
Send the one to his parents and title it.. “OUR SON THE PROUD AND HAPPY RAPIST” Maybe they can play it for the family at christmas.
If the government won’t do anything and wants to cover it up, I say we UNCOVER IT and force action being taken by a public outcry. But even if that does not get the government or media attention (although I think it WOULD) they will be found guilty in the minds of the people and that could be just as bad.
Stop letting them brainwash you into believing these men and women joined and are fighting for “US”.
March 6th, 2008 at 6:39 am
These soldiers Commander in Chief is also an accused mass murderer.
http://shopfortruth.com/2007/0.....r-in-1984/
Bush & MKULTRA Satanic killer who Bush pardoned while Governor, BOTH in same cult in ’80s author
Plus, Bush himself has been associated with mass murder Satan cult rings at Brownsville, Texas. And this connects him to the very person he “pardoned” while governor of Texas–Henry Lee Lucas, for ritualized killings and cannibalism. They both were associated with Brownsville, TX, cults. Bush’s Wild Years: in the 1980s, Bush and serial killer Henry Lee Lucas in TX Satan cult, George W. Bush investigated for six months for mass murder of 17 people who were skinned in the cult–until VP Poppy Bush told then to drop the case.
“Bush, telling reporters and critics to ’stick to the issues that matter’, Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush declined to answer questions Monday concerning his alleged involvement in a 1984 Brownsville, TX, mass murder, in which 17 people were ritualistically murdered and skinned. ‘I will not stoop to discussing that,’ said Bush….
Bush, the son of a billioniare, was strangely living in the most impoverished place in America, Brownsville. Bush was living nearby to and also inside the headquarters of a Satanic Cult of which he was a member. Bush disappeared for three days during which ALL of the other of his fellow Cult Members were slaughtered. After he reappeared he could not explain where he had been.
***The local prosecutor continued to pursue Bush, sole Cult survivor, on mass murder charges for six months thereafter, heavily pressured by Daddy Bush to stop the investigation.***
March 6th, 2008 at 7:22 am
We were not like this during Desert Storm. This is so sad. And it is maddening. C’mon for heaven’s sake! I watched all the fucking videos. How am I posting too fast?
March 6th, 2008 at 7:54 am
All,
What follows is an email I sent to a friend – concerning our future here in this country:
“[Friend's name],
What you’ll see here is an indication of what happens to people who have been “steeped” or “soaked” in violence for too long. They become de-sensitized to the brutality of war and begin to act criminally, operating outside the Constitutional rule of law. That’s why the founders of this nation always reverted to their Christian principles and they rebuked the brutal treatment of prisoners and so forth.
The Brits, on the other hand, were examples of criminal combatants. In my view, none of them were (or are) professional soldiers, meaning men of honor who had a “code” like that of the Samurai, that code being Bushido. Of course, Bushido was severely perverted by the same criminal element during WWII and people got the wrong idea about what Bushido really is. Fortunately, there are still some of us who know what the real Bushido is and, interestingly enough, it resembles true Christianity – at least in deed. It follows along the lines of ‘do the right thing instead of merely do[ing] unto others as you have have them do unto you.’
A few criminals in our military have tainted the view of the masses who don’t understand that in that environment, men become animals. I believe [firstname] [lastname] (our Marine sniping instructor) has pointed this out. Anyway, with too long an exposure to war, even good men start acting at a more brutal level. This is something we must guard against, remembering that we must always do the RIGHT thing – as things in this country progress toward what you’ll see in the videos at the following link: [to this site]”
I wrote the note above to my friend, because we are ALREADY part of the resistance, we are already in preparation for the day when this Orwellian plot to destroy our country dawns and we find ourselves fighting these troops who were trapped in this perpetual war which has desensitized them and turned them into un-American animals – by design. Therefore, we are in danger of going down the same path – of becoming less than American patriots, of turning into un-regulated savages. This note was about remaining “well regulated” within our own ranks, if you catch my drift.
With this country allowing what you’ve seen above, is there any doubt there will be a civil war here, that we will see this kind of brutality on our shores? I don’t doubt it for a second. At this point, it is inevitable. We have exposed our people to this environment for too long – and now they’ll be coming home – to be hired by our police forces. This is why we should get out of this unjust, illegal war that’s being fought on behalf of the elites behind the UN and the CFR, namely the Bilderbergers/Skull & Bones globalist socialist (communist) cabal. They have destroyed our wealth via their fractional reserve ponzi scheme, they have destroyed our moral fiber, substituting Marxism for Christianity in our churches, by extending our first amendment protections to everything EXCEPT that which the founders originally intended (meaning every immoral temptation instead of real American moral values…) and they have in every other means “eaten out our substance” so that we are barely able to resist.
Well, we have to resist, anyway. It is better to die on your feet than live on your knees. Better dead than red, as the saying goes. When this happens, remember that we cannot abandon our American principles, even in times when the urgency of battle seems to demand “expedience”. We must hold fast and STEP UP when we see such crimes being committed, even if doing so turns into a deadly encounter.
A real warrior kills only because he must, and he must always remain regretful that he was powerless to win the real war, which is on the battlefield of ideas.
One definition of Hell is “the impossibility of reason”. Without a basis in a set of immutable, constant principles and truths, there is no basis for reason. Therefore, when we abandon the very principles upon which this nation was founded, we have thrown out all logic, all reasoning for the very being of our nation and we condemn ourselves to statist hell, for the foundations of our country are those that guarantee individual freedom, they are the principles of liberty. – Anonymous
March 6th, 2008 at 11:33 am
A lot of you have forgotten to take your meds didn’t you? I don’t think anyone can condone the unethical treatment of animals(or humans, right?), but the amount of left win pet nuts calling for this man to die is absurd and so ironic that people would call for a public stoning of a human killing an animal.
You have the audacity to criticize the men and women that have put their life on the line, whether for a just or unjust cause by your standards, so you can sit on your couch and spread your seeds of hate against these same young men and women, whom by the constitution you refer to (or try to hide behind) are fighting to protect so that you can sit on your ass and drink Starbucks in your SUV. They do this so you can criticize then openly in a public forum without you losing you head like you would in Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, North Korea, etc, etc; all the while trying to play the “God” card to make yourself feel superior, that line was for you Doc Holliday you wacked out bible thumper.
It is ignorant persons like yourself that just assume everyday that your are free to do as you will because persons like David Motari(He should have left the little wild pup to die in the desert as nature intended) have fought these past battles (and will fight the future battles) for you. You see, you couldn’t fathom the ideal of self sacrifice, you just assume that freedom is a right.
You lack the respect of the people that had to fight for your ability to say whatever you chose. It was wrong of LC DM to do that to any creature, dog being wild or not, sick or not, he should have left it alone or put a 5.56 in the little pup, like a farmer would do with a sick animal.
LC DM like many others in the theater will come back home and need intensive therapy to “re-adjust” to being a civilian and not a tool of war that was programed to remove fear, compassion and the questioning of orders from their skull. So instead of putting on this big tough front and calling down these boys and girls, men and women, friends and family, you could support their re-entrance into society. They don’t have the choice to agree or disagree with the war they have been thrust into, they have to worry about surviving, so they can return to enjoy the freedoms we all do.
As for civil war, LMAO, keep dreaming of your apocalyptic demise… That is the stupidest POS I’ve ever read.
March 6th, 2008 at 11:39 am
Soldier of truth, eh? Talk about whacked out, wowww
So those guys in Iraq are the reason I can drink Starbucks in my SUV?
Let me get it right…….if not for the sacrifice of guys like the puppie killer, I wouldn’t be free??
Please explain that. I don’t understand.
And yes, freedom is a right we’re all born with. Matari or whatever his name is didn’t give me mine, it’s God-given. No war in recent history has been fought for our freedom.
March 6th, 2008 at 11:43 am
And darn it, I did take my meds today. I never forget
March 6th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
“”Let me get it right…….if not for the sacrifice of guys like the puppie killer, I wouldn’t be free??”"
Once again who condones the abuse of any animal for kicks? Puppie Killer(LC DM) fucked up, it doesn’t diminish the initial decision to support his country by becoming a marine. Thats my point here, don’t paint everyone with the same brush. Just like police, doctors, lawyers and any other trades and professions there are good and bad.
As a ex-solider I was under the impression that when I was being thrust into hostile and foreign environments by the powers that be that this was a decision that is first and foremost for the good of my country, second my family, friends and fellow countrymen. This is the sacrifice, you put all others ahead of yourself.
So no, freedom isn’t a right, maybe inside your little fish bowl it is but not all countries in the world are equivalent to the good ole US of A(and all other Anglo-Saxon countries) and enjoy what we have. Somebody had to “earn” freedom for you and it wasn’t God.
Odds being that you weren’t in (or born during) WWII or the American Revolution, this is why you have this “entitlement” attitude and can be a smart ass and focus your attention on the “media” fluff and make outrageous claims like, its a”God” given right.
Your not owed anything by anyone, especially a/the “God”, the fact is that somebody had been fighting you battles for you, past, present and future, they are called “soldiers”, appreciate it and stop shooting you mouth of like an ingrate.
If this is something you are having trouble comprehending then their isn’t much more to say. I can try and dumb it down for you but I’m running out of three letter words to help you out. Maybe you should move to Palestine for a couple weeks.
March 6th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
As a ex-solider I was under the impression that when I was being thrust into hostile and foreign environments by the powers that be that this was a decision that is first and foremost for the good of my country.
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My friend, the soldiers are fighting in a hell hole in Iraq because ISRAEL suckered US into doing their dirty work.
There are plenty of Zionist Christians and Jews in our Government that would harm the USA if it means it would help the State of Israel. * FACT *
They killed 3,000+ of our citizens so we invaded Iraq on their behalf !!!
They attacked us on 9/11 and then hijacked the public anger and desire for revenge and then we ended up in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Why fight and lose your soldiers when you can sucker others to go and die for your cause ?
Classic !!!
March 6th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Here’s an example of a “happy” story, sorry to break with tradition here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5q3TIgPwco
PS We had a shot at fixing the Iraq situation and once again nobody listened to Ron Paul…
PPS Viagra doesn’t count as meds…
March 6th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Face it “Soldier of Truth,” you’re an idiot. Freedom is the RIGHT of every living person.
I guess I’ll be an ingrate if I have to. I will fight any battle necessary to safeguard that freedom, but I will not fight someone else’s battle for anything but their freedom. (you know… what YOU do)
But in the end of the argument, I would GLADLY fight someone like you, just for the pleasure.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Tarl my newest bestest friend, every living person or every living American?
If every living person is free WTF are we doing in Afghanistan? Or do non-Christian, non-Democratic countries count?
Obviously your the idiot and just a typical ass-mouth and I highly doubt you would have the raisins to fight anyone for anything except on this forum. Isn’t that right tough guy/gal Tarl(Pardon, not sure if thats a female or male name.
#74, I argue 100% and it isn’t going to change…
March 6th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Soldier of Truth,
You can’t see what’s coming. Then, again, you don’t comprehend the proper usage of the possessive “your” (as in your feeble mind) and the contraction “you’re” as in (you are an idiot), confusing the two, completely different grammatical “animals”. So, reading George Orwell’s “1984″ probably wouldn’t make an impression on you, the point being lost on someone so full of Trotskyite/neocon illusions that they don’t even need a doublespeak dictionary.
The basis of our economy, the dollar, is being deliberately crashed through this ponzi scheme known as fractional-reserve banking, which comports 100% with central banking and control of credit advocated by those who also advocate a centrally planned and controlled economy in their little red book. Can you name the main advocates of centrally planned and controlled economies and the name of that volume where they have published it? Also, who was it that said that “Democracy is the most direct route to Communism”? Can you answer that?
Have you heard of Jekyll Island and off what state’s coast it lies? Do you know what happened there in the early 1910’s? What came of the meeting held there and how does it relate to what’s happening with our economy now and what those advocates of centralized control of money and credit are now doing to herd us into the North American Union by crashing the dollar and forcing us to take yet another phony, fiat currency known as the “Amero”. Are you aware of the plan to merge this country with Canada and Mexico and how that’s being accomplished via the military-industrial complex that allows the central bankers to create money out of thin air in order to finance the war and simultaneously destroy the dollar so they can expand their empire to the rest of North America. Do you know how this relates to our un-just war in Iraq and what the American people are learning about this criminal conspiracy?
If you think the NAU is a mere conspiracy theory, then why is it that Robert Pastor, CFR member and architect of the handover of the Panama Canal to the red Chinese – is still operating and planning yet another deadly blow to our American sovereignty?
If anyone is ignorant, here, it sure as hell isn’t me.
You will learn about all of this whether you want to or not, because it is reality. It is reality that’s dawning upon the entire nation except for a few dark corners of ignorance that are so entrenched through public “education” (brainwashing, actually…) that there is no hope for those people to wake up before the full thing is in place and they wake up to a completely changed world they will never recognize, a reality that will compete with their illusions to the point where they must go insane, rather than accept that they have taken part in the destruction of our nation through their own ignorance.
You, sir, are the ignorant one, here. Gold hit $980.00 per ounce today, the dollar a record low. Silver is also way up and is outperforming gold in its rate of appreciation, going to $20.21 per ounce today. Aren’t you following the markets? Haven’t you had any college-level economic? Haven’t you read Sun Tzu – who warned against waging prolonged campaigns far from the emperor’s palace because such campaigns drain the treasury? Haven’t you hear Orwells’ phrase, “War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength” and been able to apply it to these times?
You’re a fool.
Let me tell you something about the terrorists. They wouldn’t be able to do anything to us here on our soil – IF WE DIDN’T LET THEM IN THE COUNTRY! So, why is our president pushing an open-borders, pro NAFTA, pro-NAU agenda that will end up creating a supra-national, extra-constitutional body of law that supercedes our Constitution and puts the rule of law into the hands of an international bunch of un-elected, unaccountable bureacrats that aren’t beholden to the American people? Are you not aware of the physical infrastructure of this agenda, that being the so-called “NAFTA Superhighway”?
The fact of the matter is that you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. You can’t see an apolcalypse that’s right under your nose. You are in denial, one of the most pernicious mental illnesses to ever curse humankind.
My people left Germany when they saw Hitler rising to power. They knew what was coming. Most didn’t and went over the cliff with the rest of the lemmings.
Good luck, “Soldier of Truth”.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
Freedom.. is that what these videos are. ive been trying to type something for 5 minutes and i cant. Ive seen death and grown up around shooting and violence but these videos are something different and for someone to try and justify it or explain it is crazy. Ive been against this war before it began not because i dont believe in war but because i know wars now are not fought for freedom or liberation but for the exact opposite. This is what we have to look forward to. If you live in the cities than you know how the cops are,so imagine these guys policing you and yours. Im 26 I have a nephew that is in baghdad. I stress everyday thinking about him , hes been against this war too but he is there risking his life. As far as im concerned anyone who finds those vids justifiable. Soldier or not you participate in that willingly without objection you will have to deal with the return.’peace
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March 9th, 2008 at 12:59 am
the paragraph at the top that blames the “neocons” makes absolutely no sense and is a statement of complete ignorance. first of all, CONGRESS decided for us to do this. what do people not understand about this? apparently, our Government classes in school are not leaving much of an impression. we do not have a king, and none of this has been done without the process of our system of checks and balances. hillary clinton sent these men here. john kerry sent these men here. all who voted in favor of sending these men here–republicans and democrats–are responsible. CONGRESS sent these men here. it is not the product of “the neocons.” it is a product of CONGRESS. and incidentally, to anyone who cares: THE TERM “NEOCON” MEANS A CONSERVATIVE WHOSE BELIEFS ARE CLOSE TO THAT OF A LIBERAL. THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF “NEOCON,” DUMMIES. LOOK IT UP.
March 9th, 2008 at 1:00 am
NEOCON = LIKUDNIK DUAL CITIZEN ZIONISTS
June 24th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
YEP, JUST WAIT TILL THESE SOLDIERS COME BACK AND ARE PATROLING OUR STREETS IN A POLICE UNIFORM.