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Is it time for the U.S. to leave Iraq altogether?
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Troy Reimink
The Grand Rapids Press
July 31, 2009
The Grand Rapids Press
July 31, 2009
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Iraqi forces, he argued, are flawed yet still capable of defending the country’s government.
“As the old saying goes, ‘guests, like fish, begin to smell after three days.’ Since the signing of the 2009 Security Agreement, we are guests in Iraq, and after six years in Iraq, we now smell bad to the Iraqi nose.”
Is it time, finally, to get out of Iraq for good?
The paper then asked a handful of experts to weigh in on the memo and to assess whether withdrawing U.S. forces by next year is a realistic goal.
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July 31st, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Ummm…. Yes?
Dogfood Reply:
July 31st, 2009 at 5:15 pm
We got 2 months folks….
http://www.larouchepac.com/lpactv?nid=11195
Sutu 3 Reply:
July 31st, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Unearthed a memo? Yeah sure, it was lying in the ground till someone stumbled and dug it up.
IT WAS LEAKED, obviously. guess upper NWO is split again over timetable of troop dispursals. Trust me– after a 100 years they finally got their hands on the jugular of ME oil.
THE TROOPS ARE GOING NOWHERE. they’ll be sitting tight till for another 100 yrs- unless the oil runs low first.
truthbombs Reply:
August 1st, 2009 at 2:46 am
A Jewish Defector Warns America
http://www.zundelsite.org/news.....edman.html
THE REPTOID BOOGIE Reply:
August 1st, 2009 at 6:22 am
google/youtube ‘the non-energy crisis’ – USA has all the oil it needs and more under it’s own soil.
Richard Reply:
August 2nd, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Oh yeah, where are the reserve studies to prove it? Not dead end smoke and mirrors bs, reserve studies. Lindsay Williams provides no proof, it’s all unverifiable hear say. First it was Alaska then it was the balkan formation, none of it stands up to scruitany. Just like all the “proof” Alex provides. Some of his claims are so bombastic it’s obvious he’s just pulling your leg. I’ve been through most of those links on the Infowars search engine. They just go around in a circle. One article referencing an other which references another. There’s nothing conclusive, it’s circumstantial at best or delibertly misleading depending on how you want to look at it.
Richard Reply:
August 2nd, 2009 at 9:55 pm
The fireworks over Baghdad aren’t the type of shock and awe the “nwo” had in mind. Do you really think that after fighting Iran then the US to a stand still in gulf 1, that the Iraqis are going to let the US stay in Iraq, tell them what to do and exploit their oil? I seriously doubt it.
Rockets and morters are falling on US bases on a regular basis. Just like they were the british. The british got the hint, the US will to. As the economy tanks, war mongers aren’t going to waltz back into office like they’re use to. A number of them got the boot during the last mid term. Antiwar voters know who pulled the bait and switch last time. They’re going to be less inclined to return these clowns to office as the economy struggles.
THE REPTOID BOOGIE Reply:
August 1st, 2009 at 6:40 am
who moderates this site – the pentagon? lets recap:
NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE. OBVIOUSLY.
NO WMD. FALSE EVIDENCE, TERROR CONNECTIONS MADE UP TO JUSTIFY INVASION.
BLOW UP TWIN TOWERS AND KILL 3000+ OF YOUR OWN PEOPLE.
EVEN THE SOLDIERS DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY’RE DOING THERE. THE ONES THAT DO KILL THEMSELVES IN SHAME.
USE MEDIA NETWORKS TO LIE AND MANIPULATE.
SELL MAJOR ARMS CONTRACTS. KISS SOME HALIBURTON ASS.
DEBASE IRAQI CURRENCY AND INVADE. TAKE OVER OIL FIELDS, START STEALING OIL.
MAINTAIN A DESTABILISED IRAQ WITH BLACK OPs TO JUSTIFY TROOP PRESANCE.
INSTALL PUPPET GOVERNMENT. BRIBE. THREATEN.
CREATE A WAR-FRAUD THAT OUTLASTS WW2 AND VIETNAM.
SPEND BILLIONS ON A HUGE US-IRAQI EMBASSY/WAR BASE. SET SIGHTS ON AFGANISTAN AND IRAN.
RETIRE TO THE RANCH. SUCK SATAN’S C**K. JOB WELL DONE.
PlutoPorkPie Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:41 am
In truth the States would prefer it if there was no population in Iraq. It’s not like they can tax them or enslave them into factories. They just want the land as a staging ground andto steal the oil.
Tera patrick Reply:
August 5th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Someone give THE REPTOID BOOGIE a cigar!!!!! As someone who was born in Iraq and raised in America…Its nice to see some Americans still have brains!!! Another thing the U.S. did under the Bush administration is blackmail many countries to fight in Iraq if they wanted any debt they owed to the U.S. to be minimized as much as possible.Read confessions of an economic hit man by John Perkins.
EU-Lex Reply:
July 31st, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Democracy kicked in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlIm-riMN6Q
Will See Reply:
August 1st, 2009 at 10:24 am
The ONLY thing that will cause the US to leave Iraq is financially motivated realization of loss of profits or overpowering opposition from outside empowered insurgents. It will probably be a combination of both, as it was in Vietnam in 1975 as we scooped the last remaining US troops and State Department officials from the roofs of the US embassy.
We have 14 permanent bases to defend and a new US Embassy larger than the Vatican. That is a long-term occupation design, but the US is out of gas and money to maintain it all. This war was NEVER about “making the world safe for democracy” or displacing Saddam as a dictator. It was an outpost occupation (like Vietnam) to protect US/Israeli interests in the middle of Shiite Islamic countries and control oil supply and delivery routes.
Look for a growing alliance between Iran and Russia to fund and inflame insurgent forces that will eventually drive the US occupation out, as they did in Vietnam. Deja VU?
Richard Reply:
August 2nd, 2009 at 9:36 pm
The US has no legal authority to be in Iraq. It expired with the temporary SOFA ratification July 30, 2009 when the mandatory deadline in the ratification law passed without the required ratification referendum being held. The SOFA is null and void. The US is in Iraq illeagaly. Not that’s anything new. The invasion was illegal.
The difference this time is that the UN is unlikely to paper over the crime with more resolutions that subvert international law and violate the UN Charter the way they did last time. And the US is going to increasingly be seen as the scofflaw it is.
Vietnam all over again? Maybe. The difference this time is that the US is in a much weaker position economicaly then it was in the 70s. Yes there were war related economic problems then. But I don’t think they’re anywhere near the scale of what the US is going into. My guess is you aint seen nothen yet.
This time around the economy could tank big time. To the point where it has serious implications for the legislative incumbency, who are keeping the wars going, maintaining there grip on power. And along with them their partners in the plutocracy.
I don’t agree with Alex that all members of the plutocracy or banking elite are bad. I think he may have a democracy fascist streak and is miffed that elements of the plutocracy are taking down the economy not to enslave humanity or cull the population but to stop the incessant wars of forced “democratization” that he and others who publically decry them may be closet supporters of. This could account for why he never calls for overhauling the legislature to get rid of the war mongers, when that’s the obvious solution.
PlutoPorkPie Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:44 am
In Vietnam you got your arses totally kicked the fukk out by commies. Then conveniently voted in a pres that let you run away. That’s why Obama keeps fudging on bringing the troops out. When you start getting your arses kicked as what is normally the case after a length of time has passed, then Obama will withdraw the troops and everyone will have to listen to the bs.
July 31st, 2009 at 3:54 pm
People are tired of imperialists abroad. That money spent could be better used to help Americans create jobs back home. Of course, the Oligarchs don’t want this as it means the sheep would actually have a life.
PlutoPorkPie Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:47 am
That would also mean the elites could not take all the energy created by the hard working populace. Hence Imperialism without invasions is a dying tick infested creature that no one likes..
Once it’s dead, the elite ticks will bounce off to another host….
July 31st, 2009 at 4:00 pm
ya think…….???
Dogfood Reply:
July 31st, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Yo dog, watch this…
http://www.larouchepac.com/lpactv?nid=11195
roaddog Reply:
July 31st, 2009 at 7:05 pm
dogfood—interesting
LCpl E4 Reply:
July 31st, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Nope, ‘cuz 2004 wuz 5 years ago.
July 31st, 2009 at 4:02 pm
According to the neocon papers “maintain military bases in the Mideast.”
They must have the permanent bases,
no we will not pull out.
Look instead for a buildup.
Hint one thing, do the other.
ME.
July 31st, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Unfortunately they will just be forwarding their goals towards Iraq number two: Iran.
http://www.americareclaimed.com/iraq-number-two
Rachael M Reply:
July 31st, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Very interesting. If one idea doesn’t work anymore try making things up. And besides, why would Iran host Al Qaida—Most Iranians are Shiites, if I’m not mistaken. It makes very little sense, but I suppose that is what they (the govt) wants.
July 31st, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Yeah the Iraq parking lot is done. Now they can move forward (backwards) to Iran, and make a new world war!!!
That depends, of course, on the mental capability on the personel which is left, and still have the moral it takes to serve their masters, and don`t ask questions when they have to kill innocent people.
July 31st, 2009 at 4:13 pm
The temporary, conditional Iraq SOFA ratification expired yesterday from a failure to hold the required referendum or amend the ratification law to provide an extension of time to hold the referendum. The SOFA is null and void. The unlawful US combatants should be confined to base and withdrawn from Iraq as soon as possible.
The Multi National Force Iraq is extinct and has turned into the illegal US Iraq occupation force. All the other members of the coalition of the willing are gone because their authority to be in Iraq expired. The US needs to leave for there to be peace in Iraq.
Geoph Reply:
July 31st, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Our gooberment doesn’t want “peace in Iraq”!
That will not help profit margins.
The war must expand, can you say Iran?
ME.
Richard Reply:
July 31st, 2009 at 7:05 pm
The war addict electorate is part of the government. They’ve gone from 85% supporting the Iraq war to less than 50%. Not that the US legislature teflon incumbency and partner in crime plutocracy care as long as the incumbency get reelected. Which is no longer looking like such a sure thing as the economy tanks and the wars drag on.
With $2 trillion deficits and tax revenue plunging, somethings got to give. The government will have to start cutting back on spending to keep the economy from imploding and for people to stay or get in office. Spending money on unnecessary war rather than domestic and social programs isn’t going to be a real popular campaign platform in the months and years ahead.
Geoph Reply:
August 1st, 2009 at 5:49 am
Want to bet?
ME.
Richard Reply:
August 1st, 2009 at 11:00 am
As unemployment rises and people continue to lose their jobs, homes, cars, retirements, futures, etc.. If they know what’s best for them they’ll to stop voting for war mongers. And if they don’t, they’ll suffer the consequences. History has a solution for those types of people. Outlaw aggressor states that don’t learn from their evil ways have a habit of going away or becoming irrelevent as their power and grandure blows away like dust in wind. Hopefully americans aren’t that stupid, time will tell.
July 31st, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Geoph……you have it correct….we are no different from the British imperialists….
Dogfood Reply:
July 31st, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Wow, you really haven’t figured it out yet have you.
You ARE the British Imperialists…
Geoph Reply:
July 31st, 2009 at 5:20 pm
BINGO.
We have a winner.
You sir are absolutely correct!
Good call Dogfood.
ME.
Dogfood Reply:
July 31st, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Alex knows.
THE REPTOID BOOGIE Reply:
August 1st, 2009 at 6:25 am
the only thing alex ‘knows’ is how to be a false-front double-bluff grass roots deciever?
Geoph Reply:
August 1st, 2009 at 6:29 am
YADA YADA YADA……..
ME.
THE REPTOID BOOGIE Reply:
August 1st, 2009 at 6:53 am
little sleepy old england . . that ’special’ US-UK relationship . . the US being governed from the UK oooh this is a suprise. i’m not one for bible-trash BUT . .
“the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist”
. . it’s like the rockerfellas and roths claiming their fortunes have dwindled, while keeping their heads down and plowing on. keep in mine they have esoteric knowledge and care not for this inforwars commissioned tripe as it infact helps them reach their goals.
Richard Reply:
August 2nd, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Sure, blame the english. They could go away tomorrow and the US would still be the worlds leading outlaw aggressor state, international scofflaw and bad actor on the UN Security Council. The english are tagalongs, the US legislture teflon incumbency and their war addict electorate that keep them in office to commit crimes against humanity are the problem.
July 31st, 2009 at 4:30 pm
“Iraqi forces, he argued, are flawed yet still capable of defending the country’s government.” ??? NOTE the language – “defending the country’s government”. I’m convinced this attitude is at root of the problem we have world-wide. SINCE WHEN do we need to defend anyone’s government??? What about defending the human beings that live in all these countries??
We are so busy nation-building that we have forgotten that it’s about THE PEOPLE on this planet – not defending M-F’ing GOVERNMENTS. WAKE UP, PEOPLE!! We need to get out of these poor people’s country and let them get back to their lives. Then, if someone wants to TAKE AWAY THEIR GOD-GIVEN RIGHTS (AARRGGGGH!!!!!), we should then go in and blow the jerks to bits who think they are MORE EQUAL THAN EVERYONE ELSE…..
July 31st, 2009 at 4:33 pm
I wonder what would happen if the Iranian government says that they won’t fight the USA or Israel? What if they chose peace instead of war? What if they gave up their nuclear “ambitions” and said they would drop out of OPEC? What would the elites do then to say they need to go to war with Iran?
I know the scenario above would never happen..but it’s interesting how the elites push the notion that killing people is needed to free them from tyranny and otherwise good people believe that nonsense. If you say it’s population control and part of a plan for one world government, then you’re the nut case.
Rich Reply:
August 1st, 2009 at 12:45 am
Iran has repeatedly said that they have NO NUCLEAR AMBITIONS besides electricity and that fact has been CONFIRMED BY UN INSPECTORS over and over again. So, Bubby, what are you talking about?????????
New Top Secret Name Reply:
August 1st, 2009 at 11:28 am
HI RICH: Iran has repeatedly said “No Nuclear Ambitions”……
Hmm…. I’m thinking that sounds an awful lot like Kim Jong Mentally Ill. He swore on a stack of enriched uranium, that he just wanted to make electricity.
So what are YOU talking about?
Rich Reply:
August 2nd, 2009 at 11:32 am
CONFIRMED BY UN INSPECTORS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
Richard Reply:
August 2nd, 2009 at 1:07 pm
N. Korea withdrew from the NPT, Iran didn’t.
July 31st, 2009 at 4:38 pm
and wtf are you doing there in the first place?? oh i forgot oil
July 31st, 2009 at 4:57 pm
yeah, we got so much oil from Iraq, that’s why it’s so cheap
Dogfood Reply:
July 31st, 2009 at 5:13 pm
We are not there to get the oil.
We are there to stop OTHERS from getting the oil.
China in particular.
And it still didn’t work out as planned.
Richard Reply:
July 31st, 2009 at 8:16 pm
That’s a good point, it all comes down to the real nwo which is the proliferation of democratic fascism through forced “democratization”. Alex is trimming around the edges to end up with nwo lite rather than laying the ax to the root of the tree of democratic fascism.
The real nwo of democratic fascism consists of the war addict electorate who never saw a war they didn’t like, the US legislature teflon incumbency and the partner in crime plutocracy who take as much war profiteering, market penetration and resource exploitation as they can get.
The incumbency plays the electorate and plutocracy off each other and get life time positions, prestige, immunity from prosecution and fortunes in the process. The brain washed masses and pawn legislators is conspiracy theory nonsense from apologists for the global rampage and killing spree that the US has been on for decades. The electorate know exactly what they’re getting when they pull the lever in their voting machine slaughter booths. The evil plutocrats out to enlave and exploit humanity is only part of the problem used as a distraction to keep people from looking at the big picture.
Crisis driven change is a comming. Unemployment ’s going up and the economy’s going down. How do all you unnecessary war supporters like them apples? People who say they’re against the war and then vote war criminal incumbents back into office knowing full well it’s going to result in more war are going to start realizing that maybe that’s not such a good idea. When it’s their job, house, car, future, retirement etc. on the line. And not tv entertainment watching our guys kick their guys butts.
It’s time for change people and that change is peace, prosperity and good government. Things we’ve been sorely lacking for a long time.
Geoph Reply:
July 31st, 2009 at 5:26 pm
It goes back to the ancient land of Babylon.
The elite must control the “land between two rivers”.
Oil is really secondary to the plan!
See Bohemian Grove.
ME.
Rich Reply:
August 1st, 2009 at 12:48 am
You must be kidding. Oil is cheap because people quit buying as much of it. Boycott oil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 31st, 2009 at 5:37 pm
We need to leave Iraq then cure Iraq with radiation from Nuclear Bombs.
Geoph Reply:
July 31st, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Princass troll,
Go away.
I would consider you to be a “post breach abortion”
How does that fit your eugenics loving agenda?
ME.
Rich Reply:
August 2nd, 2009 at 11:37 am
Maybe you haven’t heard, Iraq is already loaded with spent uranium. Ugly disfigurement all over the place.
PlutoPorkPie Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:56 am
“Ugly disfigurement all over the place.”
Ummm.. I think you’ll find the Poles withdrew some time ago
July 31st, 2009 at 6:14 pm
I read that these wars were costing us $500,000 per second, yes per second, time to leave was a long, long time ago, and we should have never went in the first place!
PlutoPorkPie Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:25 am
All costs are forwarded onto the Iraqis. Payment currently being made in oil….
July 31st, 2009 at 6:39 pm
yes
July 31st, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Ask what they are now doing in all those hardened green zones we built & paid for ~
July 31st, 2009 at 10:30 pm
You have no idea what the New World Order Secret is that’s coming…
http://www.AlienTrend.com
Geoph Reply:
August 1st, 2009 at 6:33 am
YES WE DO, biatches!
ME.
THE REPTOID BOOGIE Reply:
August 1st, 2009 at 6:56 am
spam spam spam spammy spamster spammy spam.
PlutoPorkPie Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:57 am
What a lame URL, I won’t visit it.
August 1st, 2009 at 12:22 am
You have no idea what the Illuminati Order is that’s coming…
http://www.AlienTrend.com
August 1st, 2009 at 6:37 am
i’m shocked my previous post was deleted who moderates this site – the pentagon? lets recap:
NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE. OBVIOUSLY.
NO WMD. FALSE EVIDENCE, TERROR CONNECTIONS MADE UP TO JUSTIFY INVASION.
BLOW UP TWIN TOWERS AND KILL 3000+ OF YOUR OWN PEOPLE.
EVEN THE SOLDIERS DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY’RE DOING THERE. THE ONES THAT DO KILL THEMSELVES IN SHAME.
USE MEDIA NETWORKS TO LIE AND MANIPULATE.
SELL MAJOR ARMS CONTRACTS. KISS SOME HALIBURTON ASS.
DEBASE IRAQI CURRENCY AND INVADE. TAKE OVER OIL FIELDS, START STEALING OIL.
MAINTAIN A DESTABILISED IRAQ WITH BLACK OPs TO JUSTIFY TROOP PRESANCE.
INSTALL PUPPET GOVERNMENT. BRIBE. THREATEN.
CREATE A WAR-FRAUD THAT OUTLASTS WW2 AND VIETNAM.
RETIRE TO THE RANCH. SUCK SATAN’S C**K. JOB WELL DONE.
now seriously, if the infowars moderator/s are unable to leave this comment up, for a second time, it really would go quite some way to suggesting the infowars operation is infact a fox news sub-group.
Vblogger Hot chick says POUT IT BABY! Reply:
August 1st, 2009 at 4:10 pm
alternitively if they do leave it up, of course, it helps dillute the points made in the public eye.
no really i didnt go to college or universityi was warned not to take on the loans by molach, you know, same as the ‘jesuit’ envelope, issues alex ‘forgot’ to mention in the watchmen movie review.
is american idol on yet wheres my beer ooops i left it outta the fridge as i lost the batteries to my dildo collection guess satan will have to tounge-fuck me now besides he owes me a fuck as payment for doing a piece for this site.
and thats 600 fried chickens more for alex patriot jones, currently the most supposedly covert jesuit of all time. obama was nothing compared to the positioning of this guy.
oooooh my lipsticks run out i must bill the AJ corporation.
PlutoPorkPie Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:05 am
Maybe just a CIA front to guide people away from Communism. Which has always been the number one fighter against Imperial warmongering elites. But maybe Alex just doesn’t understand Communism fully.
He needs to imagine a nation that has broken free from the NWO by revolution. Now he needs to imagine all of the false history, lies about it’s leaders, staged real and false famines caused by the NWO. And all of the many other things the NWO elites have been trying to do to Communist countries for decades. Imagine Alex Jones as a revolutionary leading the American people in a new realm of freedom and how much lies and bs would be written about him. Just like the NWO wrote about Mao in the past. It’s surprising Alex does not have the foresight to figure that out yet. I’m hoping he will one day. But until that time it’s possible he is a CIA operation for siphoning away disillusioned capitalist citizens from the Imperial slave machine.
Here’s hoping..
Yes there are some nasty things about Communism, but they are caused by it being the only way to truelly fight the NWO. If you study and understand it, it all fits into place. Both sides have their reasons and that’s just how it is. They both do what they need to do.
Richard Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 3:58 am
The nwo elite swim in a sea of US attack voters and their capitol building butchers. What comes first, the host or parasite? If the war addict electorate didn’t find unnecessary war so attractive, there wouldn’t be a host for war mongering elite to infest and exploit. Unlike times past, people have a choice now. Nobody’s forcing them to return the teflon incumbency to office.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand the golden rule and basic morality. Everybody knows what the deal is. Blame shifting is standard operating proceedure for those trying exonerate the electorate for their crimes.
Richard Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 4:02 am
The US voting booth is one of the greatest weapons of mass destruction ever devised. The US legislature incumbency of evil is the global engine of crimes against humanity.
August 1st, 2009 at 7:02 am
“Is it time for the U.S. to leave Iraq altogether?”
honestly, the inane stupid and rhetorical nature of this statement astounds me. you may just as well post up 500 million 3 word replies saying, in response, “YES OF F**KING COURSE”.
N-E-V-E-R S-H-O-U-L-D H-A-V-E B-E-E N T-H-E-R-E * * * !
August 1st, 2009 at 9:00 am
“The chime tolls for all good men to meet their destiny beyond the valley of darkness. Red is the sky above and white is the ground below. Cast shadows as truth bears witness.”
New Top Secret Name Reply:
August 1st, 2009 at 11:30 am
A lpha
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N ovember
August 1st, 2009 at 11:12 am
YES.
Vblogger Hot chick says POUT IT BABY! Reply:
August 1st, 2009 at 4:12 pm
well u fell into the trap of giving an obvious answer well done have you applied for gun training yet?
PrivateSi Reply:
August 2nd, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Some1 had to say it!! At least my BINARY REDUCTION is boiled down from much reasoning. I have relations who served in Iraq & A.Stan (+ other places) and I didn’t even let that get in the way of my CONCLUSION!
It will always be a case of NOW or NEVER!!
I believe in trade and inter-dependence as a means for permanent peace, not (semi) permanent US OCCUPATION! I am not saying a backlash against the present, puppet regime will not happen but the continuing pressence of US forces continually fuels ‘backlashes’ anyhow…I could write a 10,000 word essay but why bother: ‘YES’ WILL DO!!
I understand it’s a complex situation with many countries involved but my conclusion is still
YES, YES, YES!!
August 1st, 2009 at 11:47 am
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August 1st, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Nice Article. Have bookmarked your site! Keep it up!
August 1st, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Jesus spoke to me and told me that November is the critical month, and that life will change for everyone. God bless the Queen!
lookyhere Reply:
August 10th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Yeah, gezundheit
-)
August 1st, 2009 at 1:40 pm
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August 1st, 2009 at 2:50 pm
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August 1st, 2009 at 3:58 pm
it doesn’t matter who says what, which tv station says whatever.
DAVID ICKE IS THE TIP OF THE ICEBURG.
WE ARE IN OUTTER SPACE WAKE UP FOR REAL.
ABSOLUTLY EVERYTHING, EVERY YOUTUBE AND SUPPOSED ‘UNDERGROUND’ SLUTION IS A LIE.
THE TRUTH IS NOT YET BREATHING FULL FLUX.
YOU. CAN. NOT. BE. KILLED.
Vblogger Hot chick says POUT IT BABY! Reply:
August 1st, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Shut it you wingnut my prada handbag is for real and the new american idol single kicks ass over led zepplin, cut your hair u tosser.
Rich Reply:
August 2nd, 2009 at 11:40 am
But your body sure can.
PlutoPorkPie Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:15 am
Icke speaks a lot of truth, sure. But it’s too deep for the masses, which renders it not suitable for a significant impact. And only a significant impact can actually free the people. The NWO is wriggling and shaking around trying to avoid it’s upcoming culling. For a while they made people happy, and as evil as they where, they looked after the population that was closest too them, even though they soft killed them constantly to ensure they couldn’t prosper. If they where not so greedy, we would have been happy to accept them as leaders. But they are too greedy and too evil.
Remember they only soft kill due to stealth, not due to kindness.
Richard Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 5:39 am
The royals are shape shifting reptoid cannibals? Excuse me, I’m not shallow and I have problem with Mr. Iyke’s version of reality, or haven’t you read his books?
August 1st, 2009 at 4:22 pm
The Army getting out of Iraq would be like GM closeing North American operations, or somthing like that.
Vblogger Hot chick says POUT IT BABY! Reply:
August 2nd, 2009 at 1:49 am
IF ENERGY WAS FREE WAR WOULD END. AND WE CAN’T HAVE THAT.
Rich Reply:
August 2nd, 2009 at 11:51 am
If energy was free we would have new and improved ways to divide and conquer. The solution lies in the mind of each individual. You are not the only one on the planet. Your integrity is more important than your body. The ethical route is not necessarily the most comfortable. The evil ones are a minority. A tiny minority. We are a vast majority. One of the big secrets they keep under wraps. If we (the well intended) joined together we could crush them (the evil ones) in a calm relaxed flick of our smallest digit. I believe the actual percentage is 40 to 1.
Richard Reply:
August 2nd, 2009 at 1:20 pm
I believe you’re in la la land. The war addict electorate and their teflon incumbency are the problem.
PlutoPorkPie Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:16 am
It’s deeper than that. Who controls what the War-addicts want?
Richad Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:11 am
I’ve heard it all before, people don’t turn off their conscience when they turn on the boob tube, go to a movie or sit down in a class room. The golden rule is pretty simple, people know right from wrong. All this demonization of the elite by apologists for the voters and legislators is just playing a huge game of blame shifting.
Is there room for improvement in our education and society? Of course, but it doesn’t exonerate voters and legislators of their crimes.
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August 2nd, 2009 at 6:03 am
im in iraq right now, guess what ive been doing? NOTHING since the SOFA took effect i have sat on this jss in the middle of baghdad doing nothing, except running up the bill that all of your tax dollars are paying. what a waste. why are we here? i have no idea. what are we doing here? nothing. however every commander will spin it so it seems like there is a purpose here, but there really isnt. thank god ive only got 3 months left
oooaaaa Reply:
August 2nd, 2009 at 7:34 am
The US invaded Iraq, killed millions of people, and spent trillions of dollars all because of WMD’s. That was a lie. Other than what the US sold Iraq there were no WMD’s in Iraq. It was a staged and conspired lie.
The US invaded Afghanistan, killed millions of people, and spent trillions of dollars all because 4 commercial planes crashed on 9-11. That was a lie. There were no commercial planes on 9-11. It exposes the US military, government, and military owned US media to charges of mass murder. 9-11 was a staged and conspired lie.
The US invaded Iran………..
Richard Reply:
August 5th, 2009 at 8:12 am
The SOFA is unratified, null and void. The temporary ratification expired July 30, 2009. Because the ratification law contained a mandatory dead line that wasn’t met. And because the ratification law was never amended to provide an extension of time to hold the required ratification referendum. The US is once again in Iraq without legal authority and should leave.
The war on terror is a fabrication to be used as a catalyst for illegal US wars of conquest and to take away rights and freedoms in the US by the control freak teflon incumbency.
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:03 am
Is it time for US to leave Iraq altogether?
Nah. Of course not. The makers of bombs and ammo and other military stuff could use more profits in order to get them through the recession and pay their employees. Another 5 or 6 years should be just fine.
The Revolution has begun. Patriots are taking over America!
PlutoPorkPie Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:20 am
Doesn’t look like it. Not yet anyway. Is a convenient situation though. If N. America totally falls on it’s face with this imperialist expansion, it can just have a patriot revolution and then everyone will just blame the elites and the greedy bankers. HAHA yea right you wish.
August 2nd, 2009 at 10:07 am
The SOFA is gone. The US is trying to maintain it’s presence in Iraq using an agreement that doesn’t exist anymore. The temporary agreement ratification expired July 30, 2009. The SOFA is null and void. The mandatory deadline passed without the required ratification referendum being held as stipulated in articles 2 and 3 of the ratification law.
The US has no legal authority to be in Iraq. US forces should be confined to base and withdrawn from Iraq as soon as possible.
PlutoPorkPie Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:21 am
It never had legal authority anyway.
Richad Reply:
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:59 am
Your point is well taken. The UN authority was after an illegal invasion and in violation of international law and the UN Charter. The bilateral authority, which just expired, was with a US proxy, which makes it of questionable legitimacy, due to coersion and duress. Now even that’s gone, it’s time to leave.
August 2nd, 2009 at 10:38 am
As soon as U.S. troops are withdrawn from Iraq, the new Iraqi democracy will be immediately overthrown by some militant Islamic group. Probably the day after U.S. troops leave. There is no such thing as democracy in the middle-east.
Richard Reply:
August 2nd, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Maybe they’ll get a well run non democratic government that doesn’t wear Washington shoe polish on their tounges, provides a faster rate of economic growth, and a better quality of life, human and civil rights than they’ld get with a US installed “democracy”. In fact maybe the current government will say that the war started with an illegal invasion and ended with an illegal occupation and all the occupation era agreements are invalid and we’re going to do it our way.
Richard Reply:
August 2nd, 2009 at 12:44 pm
And if you americans want to do something constructive. How about paying off the Kuwait war reparations to get Iraq out of chapter 7 as partial reparations for what’s been done to Iraq?
lasse Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 11:45 am
thats the point, so you think that america is providing aid to all its puppet kings so they can get democracy:)) please, the elite who control America wants islam to rule the middle east, total distruction of the middle east!
Richard Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
The elite don’t rule america, they keep the incumbency in office and flush with graff. The incumbency play the plutocracy and electorate off against each other to proliferate democratic fascism, that’s the real nwo. Not this banker clap trap Alex is always ranting about. Their part of the problem, but the bigger part is the incumbency of evil and their attack dog, war addict, attack voters.
The fed’s a front for the teflon incumbency and partner in crime plutocracy to do as they please and provide the capitol building butchers a fig leaf of plausable deniability for blame shifting purposes to play a shell game with the electorate. And as long as the electorate ae fat and happy they don’t care who gets slaughtered in the process.
The dictators are kept in office for their own self destruction and eventual forced “democratization”. All you have to do is read offical US foreign policy statements. They come right out and tell you that their going to violate interntional law and the UN Charter to carry out global regime change to install US proxys subservient to Washington.
August 2nd, 2009 at 11:54 am
What a stupid question. we should not be there in the first place. Don’t ever make the mistake of thinking that US troops are there for the benefit of the Iraqi people.
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August 7th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
I doubt that Israel would allow the USA to pull out of Iraq. The oil is going …where? Give you one guess and it ain’t US.
As for Iraq, who will protect them from the CIA after our slow murdered troops come home to die of DU? Why are you not out on general strikes in the streets banging pots and getting into faces, America?
As a vet ( 1968-1976 ) I want some “support our troops” ’cause I’m getting pissed off at the cowardess and sloth I’ve seen everywhere and it’s disgusting.
August 8th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I’m in the army and am currently deployed in Iraq. I’ve seen first hand that the Iraqi’s are capable of running their country, I know the best thing we could do is come home now, get our troops out of harms way. There is way to much going on at home, and we are needed there.
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